This young man was not kicked out the church but the facts were he was just sat down from the leadership role. He was never kicked out the church. How could he be at FBCG this long and not know the love in this church or what the church stood for. I’m positive this was not done with malice but from the backing of God’s word.
I have been a member of this church since I was a child. The reason why I stayed as an adult is because we stick to the principles and TRUTH of Gods word. Through the years I have seen them sit down deacons, ministers and other members who have held leadership roles due to behaviors or lifestyles that go against Gods word. God calls us to live in righteousness and when we fall to repent. We were born sinners due to the fall of man which is why this walk calls us to DIE to OURSELVES DAILY. Pastor has been CLEAR and unwavering in his stance on how we are supposed to live as children of God. I wasn’t allowed to sing in the choir anymore until my children’s father and I were married because we moved in together. God made you a man. If you are a teacher of the Bible you already know what the Bible says about how a man is to live their life, and how WE ALL need to live on this earth ESPECIALLY when serving in ministry. Read the word in its entirety and you will understand why this action was taken. I was hurt too but as Pastor always says, God does not care about our feelings but about our souls. Be well.
Amen! I'm not getting it, how is this man expecting to be justified when you go against God's word and if don't understand why, he should go back to the word of God, then repent. The Pastor did the right thing.
Hey friend, no shade at all, but this church has sat people in leadership down for having premarital sex, amongst other things that scripture calls sinful. So you’re not alone, their theology is their theology. You can’t expect a Christian church to affirm a lifestyle that scripture clearly speaks against. Churches don’t typically change their theology based on what’s accepted in culture.
Did they kick you out of the church or release you from being a Sunday school teacher? Clearly your lifestyle goes against what most Christian’s believe and you were in a position to influence many children. Being gay is a choice
In love brother, I'm not sure what you expected from a Christian Church. If you are proudly living a lifestyle that the church does not see as measuring up to Scripture, why would you expect to be held up as a leader/model? Regardless of how you personally feel, I don't think you can chalk this up to bigotry. You are in a church that made their doctrines clear, if you don't agree, you have to be a leader somewhere else
God is love, and He loves you. God is still a holy God. His word will never change, and the Holy Bible is the standard and the guidebook for those of us who confess with our mouths and shall believe in our hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead; we shall be saved. True pastors are called by the Lord Jesus Christ to preach and teach the whole counsel of God, to stay true to the word of God even when having to address topics and issues that are popular and accepted in the culture but are contrary to the word of God. A church has to have biblical qualifications for those in leadership. Even though you were not allowed to serve in your desired position does not mean that Pastor Jenkins and the church do not love you. He has to answer to God and to obey God rather than laws that have been made by man that are against the word of God. I believe you are still welcome to attend the services there because they do not have those restrictions. Please read the entire chapter of Romans Chapter 1, and please pay special attention to verses 26-32. I used the Christian Standard Bible, and it may be helpful if you also read those scriptures in the King James Version, the New American Standard Bible, and the Amplified Bible. Verses 26 & 27: For this reason God delivered them over to disgraceful passions. Their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. The men in the same way also left natural relations with women and were inflamed in their lust for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons' the appropriate penalty of their error. With the Lord's help, we all will put off the works of the flesh and put on the Lord Jesus Christ. The blood of Jesus Christ and the word of God cleanses us from all our sins, whatever we as individuals have to battle. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but are mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.... Again, God loves you, and I am sure Pastor Jenkins does, too!
Bigotry yes! This the clear definition of bigotry, but the church, and most certainly the black church, has, is, and will, continue to use scriptures to debase, denounce, reject and disqualify those who happen to be non-heterosexual conforming. The church staunchly justifies and defends its position based on its interpretation of scripture and, for the black baptist church, that is enough. But don't pretend that it is not bigotry.
Ok, so I remember this man. He taught my kids in Sunday school when we were still in Maryland and attended this church. He was a very nice gentleman who always brought snacks, and my kids learned a lot in his class, BUT that's not enough. Jesus says, "If you love Me, you will keep my commandments." Sir, your love for your lifestyle is greater than your love for God. Ask me how I can make that judgment call? I'm glad you asked. It's because of your decisions. While the Lord requires us Christians to crucify our flesh DAILY, you have made the choice to gratify yours. Your lifestyle is what the bible calls sin. It's not the only sin in the world but one of many. The world has painted a Jesus that accepts everything and everyone. That's simply not the Jesus of the bible. There was a bold line drawn as to what God allows and what He doesn't. The fact that you taught for so long and were not thoroughly interviewed and given the biblical standards in which a Christian should uphold and be assessed over time saddens me. There's no such thing as being a "Gay Christian." It's an oxymoron. You are either gay or a Christian, but you can't be both. Why? Because God says you can't. Leaders have to do a better job with not just allowing whoever wants to volunteer, just welcome them right on in, and put them positions without inspecting the fruit of that individual. Not just once but throughout their tenue of that position. This is never about whether they are a "good person" or not but this is all about their daily decisions, lifestyle, their convictions because I can honestly say that if we had known, we would've pulled our kids out of His class and brought it to the leadership's attention that they had someone that was in a prominent position to teach our children about the bible who doesn't even embrace it himself. Young man, you need to repent and realize the error of your ways not just to get the position back but this is way bigger than Sunday School. Your eternal security is on the line. You want to show these kids something, show them that you chose Jesus over your flesh. That will impact the lives of many. May the Lord grant you the boldness to walk away from your sin, get delivered from the spirit of homosexuality that has you bound and surrender it all to the Lord who is a KEEPER. Seek wise biblical counsel on deliverance because the church did the right thing and I understand that you were hurt by their decision but they ultimately have to answer to the Lord so they can't be concerned with who is offended because they don't want to follow the bible and were relieved of their duties to teach the children. Here are some scriptures that will help you understand what the Word of God says about the topic. John 14:15 ( John 14:15-18 NKJV [15] “If you love Me, keep My commandments. [16] And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- [17] the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. [18] I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. (Psalms 89:31-32 NKJV [31] If they break My statutes And do not keep My commandments, [32] Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, And their iniquity with stripes. (I Corinthians 6:8-11 NKJV [8] No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! [9] Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [10] nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (I Corinthians 3:16-21 NKJV [16] Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17] If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. [18] Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. [19] For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; [20] and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” [21] Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours: (I John 2:15 NKJV [15] Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
OMG. So well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾, wonderful scripture I pray he reads them & turns his life around, 🙏🏾 this is such a sad video, I truly pray for his soul, 🙏🏾👏🏾amen Pastor did the right thing!!!
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man-and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:18-32 NKJV bible.com/bible/114/rom.1.18-32.NKJV
Where in this scripture u wrote does it say gayness is a sin it was re wrote so many times non of us really know we just have to believe and I belive Gid lives all and knew he we were when he made us we should come as we are and as long as u have a relationship with the lord Christian’s should be happy and who are any of these people to judge that’s a sin to and there is no sin lesser or more sin is sin.. the older generation definitely doesn’t understand homosexuality so there stuck in there ways not being open minded looking oat the fact you are human and love the lord u prolly love the lord more then half the people commenting we all sin what makes u better then the next person bc your not like them doesn’t give rights to judge and u not understanding doesn’t mean he is wrong or sinning who are we let God be the judge let people worship and uplift the lord I love the lord and nobody could tell me different bc of my sexual preferences woooooow how dare some people the original Bible got changed by the white man so many times it’s almost a another book. I said what I said I’m unmoved by people who judge I keep living my best life and my happiest life through the lord. I seen one scripture in Luke about men and men but not woman and woman I guess bc two woman aren’t considered having sex not sure but why just sodemy and that scripture what there from the beginning
Alright, you broke it down and with the Word of God to back it up 👏👏Praise God. When I visited FBCG from Connecticut. I truly was blessed by M.O.G Pastor John Jenkins and loved by the greeters & church members, even in the rest room where we chatted after service. Pastor Jenkin surely doesn't waver from God's Word, no no....wrong church!!!! Wrong Pastor!!! To God be the I will be praying for this young man in Jesus' name, Amen
This is the kind of courageous conversation that the church needs to have. As uncomfortable as it may be it is worthy to discuss. My thought is that they did not say you couldn’t serve in ministry, they said you can’t serve in a “teaching ministry”. If you don’t believe in the whole doctrinal practices of this church, you should not be a teacher in this ministry. However, I do empathize with you because perhaps the leaders failed to have this stipulated when you were chosen to teach. If you have been teaching for 14 years then what was told to you about the requirement to teach? I trust that this ministry wants you to seek out scripture for yourself. You clearly stated that you don’t believe the pastor’s interpretation of scripture regarding homosexuality…this is why you maybe shouldn't be teaching. If you teach in this ministry you should be in alignment with what it believes so that when and if the question is asked in your class you can give the answer that aligns with the church doctrine. If you cannot, then you shouldn’t teach. I am praying for you, I feel hurt that you experienced this,. God does love you and He will provide the answer that you need. Be open to the Holy Spirit. Even in this He is working.
None of this is about LOVE or being a GOOD person it’s abt publicly being in LEADERSHIP position in church BUT PUBLICLY not Following THE WORD .. ppl have too understand that when in LEADERSHIP u can also be RESPONSIBLE for LEADING others too 🔥 If u not living right in an area of ur life publicly sit back sit tite and focus on ur SPIRITUALITY & relationship with GOD 1st .
As a Christian who was formerly homosexual. I hear your heart and plea to the modern Christian church. What I hear is that you were not disassociated from the church or “kicked out” of the body of Christ. No man has the power to do that. What I also hear is that the elders (gatekeepers)of the church felt it was best for you to not serve in a leadership role while current being a self-avowed servant-leader. What I discern and gather is, that church has a concern that… as a leader, it is critical that you practice scriptural holiness, and a life that both in spirit and truth reflects that of Christ. The other part of their concern perhaps is not your faith, your ability to love or teach, but the issue of true practical theology. None are not perfect; however, Christian ethics, justice, love, holiness, worship, and benevolence matters. Sexuality matters. I support and love you and affirm God knew you, considering the Jeremiah text; however, he also knew that Christ would come to set us free from sins that easily beset us or has us in a grip. Unfortunately, this includes lifestyles that take over our identity and sexuality. God knows your potential in Christ also. I know this hurts and seems unfair and I empathize with you. As a person who was formerly homosexual, Christ does do a work in us that only God can do. None of us are excluded from that. God’s is all-inclusive and all renewing. This is all new and I know your heart is tender still, but I want to encourage you to seek the face of God and let come alongside you. I encourage you not to blame God. Don’t blame God. Don’t turn your back on Him. Lean in, grieve this loss, let God lead you, and stay in his face and loving care.
@@Quietonset Very well said; the decision was based on God’s Word and from a place of love. I encourage you to take time to be still and seek the voice of God. Reflect upon this experience and ask the Lord what He requires of you. God loved you and only wants the best for you. God bless.
I think what’s more unfortunate is that after 14 years there was no conviction. (Not condemnation) but conviction to be led by the Holy Spirit to be in alignment with his word. This is not bigotry it’s a call to address a hardness of heart. You are accepted and loved. But be clear that The fruits you speak of would include laying down the idol of sexual sin whether gay or straight. It hurts to hear that you are hurt. But don’t allow a hardness of heart and idolatry of sexuality cause you to separate yourself from the community of Christ. I had to lay my burden of premarital sex DOWN and that was a straight relationship. Had I stood on that AND tried to be in leadership I would have been let go too. I will be praying for your strength and for the Holy Spirit to reveal himself to you completely.
It’s unfortunate that someone who is so ignorant of the scripture was allowed to teach for 14 years. If you read the Bible, read the whole Bible. It sounds like you trying to set them up, I see right through you. Your excuses are hilarious you know better. I’m praying for you.
God is trying to have you look at yourself. Sometimes we don’t want to hear what God is saying because it goes against what we feel, think, believe about ourselves. It is hard and the first thing we do is look outside of ourselves to blame someone or something. My next question is do you think God makes mistakes? I pray you open your heart to what God is trying to change in you.
One thing about Pastor Jenkins is He is not a hypocrite. I heard him speak against homosexuality with Wanda Sykes sitting in the congregation. He's gonna preach and teach the BIBLE period! You're being relieved of your teaching position wasn't about not loving YOU it was about your life style of what is considered sin
I feel like this video should be a phone call/convo with the church. Not with us. But since we're here... you can't be upset with "A Church" that enforces what the Bible speaks against. Idk what you disagree with here. It's a church 🤷🏿♂️
I'm still waiting for the part where he was kicked out. Did they cast him out of the ministry, or just ask him not to teach Sunday school anymore? Did they stop loving him, or just ask him to stop teaching Sunday school?
That within itself is the hypocrisy of the church! If you can’t see that then I am sorry for you! I wouldn’t want to be part of a church like that! Black folks are so indoctrinated, it’s really sad!
@@cwc75333that isnt Christian. He can love whomever he wants but it isnt biblical. And if they are teaching the Bible, order, God’s love- it has requirements. We are required to let go of our worldly choices, and choose to follow God and His word.
First Baptist is a great church! They are Bible believing and Bible teaching. Since you have a disbelief in the Bible , God’s word and that is the church’s doctrine by your own omission-- why don’t you go to a church that BELIEVE the way you do…. Your lifestyle doesn’t line up with what that church believes, once they found out that you were gay and that’s against their beliefs, they ask you to step down, they never threw you out, they never told you that they didn’t love you, they removed you from serving in the ministry as your lifestyle doesn’t line of with their beliefs or God’s word. You’re talking about what scholars said about the Bible, so why don’t you go to a church of those scholars 💁🏽♀️. No one is condemning you, this church is speaking the truth of God. love, God loves everyone but He hates the sin. The Bible is clear on homosexuality… and since you don’t believe in the Bible and you quote scholars… keep that momentum and go to a church that accepts your lifestyle. But don’t cause discourse because you can’t change God‘s people or God’s word to correspond with a belief that is an abomination to God. Why and how are you teaching children at First Baptist anyway??? yet you don’t believe in the Bible ??? Go and be changed in Jesus’ name!
As a mother who attends FBCG and have been for years, and with a 2nd grader who regularly attends Sunday School and Bible study, I applaud the church for enforcing the principles according to God’s Word. Also, we can’t try to find “our truth” in the Bible by listening to others whose beliefs align with ours, no matter the sin. I agree with a previous statement that after 14 years there’s no conviction on your part. God loves us all, but we all must repent of our sins. By the way, if you’ve been at the church for as long as you say, you know good and well that you are NOT being singled out. You know pastor calls out ALL sins. Read the Bible please and ask God to bring clarity to you. It sounds like you want to remain in your sin.
Well you should know that we all have sin and God wants us to Repent and turn away from our Sin! You are still in it! What word of God are you reading! Yes God loves all people but whatever sin we are in we have to Repent and not to return to it no More! You can confess God all you want and post thousand scriptures but your still Sinning!
My knowledge of first baptist beliefs and convictions, set give are biblically based are very clear. I'm not a member, but I have a close connection with this ministry. I said all of that to say that for someone who have served the amount of years you stated, it should not be a shock to you that they are totally against this way of life. Upon knowing their beliefs, you should have been integral enough to let them know this from the very beginning. Overall, my prayers, that this experience does not turn you away from The True God.
‘Biblically based’ is a loose term, especially when preaching about this specific subject is seldom done within the cultural context of the verses when they were written. It’s easy to read an English version and call that truth, or even the literal Greek or Hebrew and call that truth. But it’s unreliable without a look at context, an honest one. How did homosexuality show up in biblical times? Usually through prostitution or pedastry, both being situations where one party had disproportionate power over another. The prevalence of homosexuality at time was overwhelmingly Non-consensual or consensual only for pay. Context matters. Point in case, the Bible clearly says women should not lead men, yet FBCG has no problem with women in leadership. How is the structure of women in leadership over men biblically based? Their rationale: context of the verse.
@@CptStepman which women are in leadership/authority over men? I worship there - have for over 20 years. We have women leaders yes but share the context and Holy Scripture. And homosexuality, adultery, theft, etc etc are dealt with separately- what does this leadership comment have to do with this??
the point is the cherry picking of the Bible and its beliefs, even within the New Testament. Don’t pick on one thing and excuse another. Or if you’ve considered context and came to a fuller understanding of scripture because of that, then give the lgbt conversation the same due diligence. The Bible says women should not have leadership/authority over men. 1 Tim 2:12. That’s not my personal belief, but Paul said it, the same way he say gays will not inherit the kingdom of God. Note: these are Paul’s words, not Jesus’. But since everyone wants to stand beside Paul on that, keep the same energy about all Paul’s words. Paul also said in Corinthians that women should be silent in church (1 Cor 14:34), again not my belief but it’s what Paul said. I believe FBCG and other churches have looked past these scriptures, rationalizing the decision based on their contemporal cultural context. FBCG has women leading prayers during services, leading the service, and preaching. Behind the scenes the managerial structure of the ministries has women leading departments that instruct/lead men. Education being one of them. Further, women are leading young males in Sunday school (this argument is analogous to the argument presented in these comments that Jeremy was not fit to lead because he is gay , which is not explicitly stated in scripture while the disqualification of women is explicitly stated. Yet for the women that’s a non issue. Make it make sense). I grew up at FBCG so I am speaking from my most formative years. 20+ years. Active member in multiple ministries, faithful gross income tithe-abiding member, etc. As far as how it’s all related, Pastor sets the example. Why did a sermon where he was disallowing his youngest son from doing what his peers did, lead to a diatribe about the worlds allowances that aren’t the churches, that then led to gay bashing? Like bringing the gays in was left field and unnecessary. His son was like 5 and wanted to go play on a Sunday or something. Did punching down on the gays need to be injected into that? No but it shows the specific disdain and picking on of this group. He doesn’t preach as harshly or as frequently about the overweight members. He doesn’t preach against material possessions as harshly or as often either. No he picks on the gays particularly. If the majority of the congregation isn’t struggling with that, you’d think it wouldn’t be so frequent. You’d think the messages would deal with the most common issues facing the congregation. Instead, he unifies them in hatred and disdain for the lgbt. You’ve seen the sermons about husbands loving their wives and the women clap and yell, then he mentions women submitting to their husbands and the men clap and yell. And then when he mentions the gays, everyone claps and yells, further invigorating and justifying hatred towards gay people. He unifies them in that although it’s a somewhat fringe issues for the tens of thousands of members. That’s not how Jesus would handle the topic. IMO. He would not encourage the applauding of disdain for a group of believers. Jesus said in John 3:16 whosever believes is saved. Paul said xyz groups of people wouldn’t inherit the kingdom of God. So are to take Paul’s word as equal to Jesus’? Are we to read John 3:16 with an asterisk? (And if so, why not preach it that way from the get go. You can be saved except….). Also please get into the Greek of that verse and how it uses a compound word that cites back to the Old Testament Hebrew that regarded male prostitution, not consensual relationships between men. Prostitution being a huge biblical theme that Israel was compared to when they disobeyed God.
@@CptStepman Ok. I am not going to argue with you re the sin of homosexuality. There are multiple verses on it. Multiple. God redeemed me from the homosexual lifestyle. I cannot speak on women leaders because I have facilitated and taught men in my personal life re the Word of God. To say that you are aware of what is discussed in every sermon, every teaching, every workshop at any church is foolish. No one could quantify that. I am going to stick to the Holy Scriptures 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is often taught re the Body of Christ. It speaks of what we used to be. Our former lives before being Born Again and receiving power to overcome sin. There is no disdain for people that are in the homosexual lifestyle - because how could so many attend church for years as evidenced by the author of this post. The issue is the acts of homosexuality. I was once in that life and now I am GRATEFUL TO BE OUT OF IT. You are not defined by your SIN. The enemy of this world wants to trick people into thinking that having sex - identifies them. It is a LIE FROM THE ENEMY. I do not know the particular of this man being removed from teaching children as an openly gay man. Why all of a sudden are alternative lifestyles being thrust into the lives of children?? Why are drag queens choosing to be in spaces for children? In Leviticus when the Sodomites banged on Lot’s door to rape them - it reads that YOUNG AND OLD were included. Young!!!!!!!!!! These people were so wicked and deranged that they were teaching their practices to their children. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON NOW! Satan has a counterfeit for everything. God says man + woman = life. he says man+man & woman+woman which DOES NOT PRODUCE ANYTHING. God says GOD IS LOVE. satan says that love is love which could LITERALLY not figuratively mean anything. This includes pedophilia which is now being attempted to be added as an orientation that needs to be protected. The enemy is your enemy not any man or what any pastor teaches.
So it is the same as someone being married and committing adultry, or someone sleeping around with members of the church. It’s all immorality. It’s explicit in the word. I can say I love God but if I’m in sin then My leader would relieve me of what ever I am doing.
It is true that God has given humans the gift of free will. We have the power to choose our path in life and make decisions based on our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual needs. Blaming God for the consequences of our actions is not fair because ultimately, we are responsible for the choices we make. Similarly, it's not fair to blame the church or the pastor for our spiritual growth because we have the ability to read and study the scriptures for ourselves. We must take ownership of our spiritual journey and actively seek knowledge and understanding. It is also important to be aware of the devil's schemes and not let his army deceive us. We should strive to live a life that is pleasing to God and not fall prey to the devil's kingdom.
When I first saw this video I was appalled; I am not an actual member of FBCG, but I am a regular watcher, & an active member of my COGIC church. We teach the BIBLE But then I thought 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank U for letting me know that this is truly a Bible based church (I already knew, which is why I watch) & thank U for letting people know this is a Bible based church, I heard Pastor preach on this video, I had not seen it then, but his stance is the same SIN is SIN so glad he had U sit down, wondering how U can teach from a Bible U do not believe in & "teach" under a Pastor U believe is teaching a lie when he says homosexuality is a SIN, I also hear him speak against lying, abortion, drinking, smoking, drugs, stealing, cheating, sexual sin with man & woman, (what God intended) if U are not married. He preaches against ALL sin hypocrites as well. All will send U to HELL unless U change & accept Christ in your life: Supposed 1 of those children U was teaching saw or heard of your lifestyle or your social media, & asked U about it, what do U tell them, Pastor Jenkins is teaching a lie when he says homosexuality is a sin?🤷🏾♀️ Yes God loves all of His children, but He hates ALL sin. All have sinned, but some have repented & accepted Christ & changed their lifestyle, I pray U search the scriptures & see that Pastor did the right thing, accept Christ in your life & turn from eternal destruction.
Lord, have mercy on all of us. I'm far from righteous, I pray 🙏🏾 the Holy Spirit reveals to you that the lifestyle you're living in is not of God. Ephesians 6:12, Take this time to dig deeper into the word of God and open your heart to receive what he has to tell you. May the peace of God be with you 🙏🏾
I have been a member of FBCG for more than 10 years now. Pastor Jenkins is a pastor who goes by the book of God. If you don’t like what he says you don’t love the word of God. I pray for you brother. The Bible states clear as day that homosexuality is frowned upon is God eyes. And if you are not religious you can see that if you can give life from that partnership than it is not from Christ
I left church 7 years ago and I don't plan on going back. I was in the church since my mother was pregnant with me. I don't align with Christianity anymore. I used to teach Sunday school at my church, I taught the children. after I got pregnant, they told me I couldn't teach Sunday school because I was pregnant and unwed. they said it's teaching the kids that fornication is ok. mind you, the man I got pregnant by we had been together 4 years at the time we got pregnant. we met at school...and had been friends for 4 years. to this day him and I are still together, our family is thriving, we haven't gotten married because I don't care about it and I was never one to even Dre about marriage. like for me, it's not that important. but the fact they had drug dealers, thugs, felons andnall types of people that attended this church, but they singled me out because I had sex and got pregnant with my best friend. I left church that day and never went back.
Congratulations on being with a man and not a woman, which is the topic of the post. However, the church doesn't condemn people, it's God's word that calls you to repent so that you are not condemned. You were living opposite of God's word and all of us were at some point in time. However, God call us to align our lives with His word. Since you were not in alignment you were disciplined as we all should be if we are off point. You said that you are still unmarried. I pray that your love for each other blossoms into marriage and God's richest blessings find you.
Everyone has their own judgement day, no one will be able to validate for you. Why don’t we just wait until that time to see who’s right? Just keep living as you are and see if it was the way God wanted you to live. Why do you need everyone’s Validation on how you want to live your life?
Thank you for confirming that this is a true biblical church and I would love to visit it!!! You need to thank God that they loved you enough to tell you the truth so you could repent and turn away from your evil sins and turn to Christ for mercy and forgiveness, that you may obtain eternal life
This isn’t a comment on homosexuality but rather my perspective on any church. I am a member of FBCG and was a tithing member who was divorced. Many years after my divorce I wanted to remarry. Pastor didn’t allow me to be married in my church where I was serving and paying my tithes. Did I get offended and leave? No, I did not. I prayed and asked God to guide me. I prayed and found peace with my decision to remarry. I respect that Pastor is the Shepherd of that church and I was completely content to find a church where I could remarry and I continued to attend, serve and support my church. The moral of my story is, he is the Pastor. If you find you are no longer able to follow his teachings and guidance, you move on. You don’t take to social media to ridicule the church.
That's the problem yall put these preachers and pastors on a pedestal and because of that what ever they say and do is valid and ok. That's wrong! Y'all follow religion more than you follow Jesus because he wouldn't have done this.
That’s the problem with church and the black community. We are encouraged not talk about anything, which is how a lot of mess perpetuates. He didn’t ridicule the church. He just told his story. He didn’t say a disparaging word about the church. But please, tell us how they’re the victim 🙄 🥱
@@MrBj354she said the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you responded to. She said she DID NOT AGREE with him (and the Holy Scriptures say the same re remarrying while a spouse is still alive)
I can empathize with the hurt and disappointment of the decision however, if you truly are a fellow believer you also have to be aware of biblical church discipline. Sin is sin no matter what form it takes. As someone who serves at my church I know for a fact that if I were out having pre-marital sex (which I’m not) yet something like that came out, then my elders would also take the stance to sit me down until I was walking in repentance. The church has stepped away from discipline out of fear of the culture. But Jesus is coming back to a church unstained without spot of blemish. Please take this time to truly seek the Lord on what repentance looks like. It’s one thing to have this experience and fight through the temptation, but to continue to live in it openly, is indeed sin my friend.
He just did 15 years at another church with no issues. No issues with the children and what does his sexuality have to do with him teaching about God to children? That fear talk coming from you.
True Christians that follow the Holy Bible would never coddle and welcome a man or woman who clearly was living in sin and had no desire to repent to come and teach their children. Either whoever made this comment is not a Christian or luke warm at best and I pray to God that they are not in leadership and their views don't reflect the leadership of their pastor because this whole church is in error and will be judged for not sharing the truth that can only be found in the Word of God not in someone's perspective or opinion. Get back to basics, which is THE BIBLE PERIODTTTT!
Thank you for sharing your story❤ I’m an Online member and have been screening for this form of discrimination. I believe as Christians we should have love in our hearts for all and that God is doing a new thing in this world. Keeping the commandments means we don’t judge personal lives. Thank you for nourishing young minds and engaging with those who are still understanding. Taking the Lord’s name in vain is using the Bible to condemn the People of God. We must welcome all Christ minded folks ✨ praying for your strength!!
If you love God you will keep his commandments..God never said be comfortable living in your truth we are to live in Gods truth...thats where the problem comes..God has no gray area it's either black or white ...(man and woman) produce life..God is life...any lifestyle other then that is against his will...Dont be deceived 💯
Oh Cheryl, read the room. This is a space where love, intelligence and respectful curiosity collide, not silly dogma. Though you’ve been taught that everything is black and white, it’s not. Science, chromosome breakdown specifically, helps us understand that God created us all with a lot more nuance than people care to accept. Go in peace.
@@rochyns8567 lol wrong person friend. I have and can quote it pretty well. That doesn’t give me the right to ignore facts, science and other people’s experiences.
Facts!! Why are we always trying to get ppl to cosign our mess. Why don't we deal with our own mess?? Just bc the mass amount of people accept something doesn't make it acceptable. I'm the parent of a gay child also whom I love to life. And the sins of that child are no more severe than my own! The last time I checked, sins didn't have degrees. We both will all be judged accordingly. The world can't convince me that right is wrong and wrong is right. The bible says what the bible says. Many aspects of the bible do not require interpretation. This topic being one of them and there are many others. Peace and love to all. May WE ALL FIND THE WAY!!!!
If you are living in sin and not trying to come out, you or anyone else shouldn't serve in any level of ministry. You haven't obeyed the foundation level of Obedience. I'm sure you are gifted but your gift is easily perverted and imagine that being expressed to the kids. Your gift is open season for the enemy to use and infiltrate the very generation he is after. Seek deliverance, get pure then come back and serve
I am a FBCG member. I am deeply sorry that this happened to you at FBCG. May your heart heal in time and hope/pray that you are able to still keep your connection to God in the long run….🙏🏾
Nope. 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I live in Texas and watch the services at FBCG. This church is one of the few that actually follows the Word of God. Gay people are welcome to become members of any church. That does not mean that gays should lead any ministry especially with children. Christians, like God, should love the person and hate the sin.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Pastor Jenkins (and FBCG leadership) relieved you of your duties as a Sunday School Teacher-yet, Stephen Hurd and Anthony Brown are on payroll? This is why the congregation of “I use to attend…” is steadily growing. This is completely baffling how can we (the black church and the church at large) coddle some and condemn others. Friend, please don’t give up on Jesus, and do not let this unfortunate situation deter you from your purpose and destiny in God; neither allow it to have you question the gift that God has placed inside you. Remain prayerful and continue authentically living and growing in the unconditional love of Christ.
Fornication is sin. God made me a woman. But I can't fornicate with a man, because that is how God made me. The Bible is very clear on sin. You seem like a very nice person. But good and nice is not the requirement for salvation. We have to turn away from sin (repent), accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. If you don't believe what is in the bible is true, why do you want to teach it? How do you accept some of the bible as truth and some as untruth? Man wants to live how he wants to live. Man wants to create god in his own image. A god that accepts them as they are. But this is not truth. Absolutely, God loves you. But God does not love our sin....whether we are straight or gay. The church should not condone sin, regardless of whether you are straight or gay. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will …
Not necessarily my opinion but there are 2 sides to every coin… 1 COR 6 & 1 TIM 1 - Will Not Inherit the Kingdom “Do not be deceived… male prostitutes, sodomites… will not inherit the Kingdom of God.” -1 Corinthians 6:9 Traditional interpretation (and yours) used to Clobber gay people PASSAGE RECAP - In two different letters, Paul writes out a list of sins and includes” homosexuality” as something that excludes you from the Kingdom. JUSTIFICATION FOR DISCRIMINATION - This makes the Bible “clear” that homosexuality is a sin. ‣ Not worse than other sins, perhaps, but nonetheless still sinful. ‣ Same-sex behavior is incompatible with a life lived for God. TRANSLATION ISSUES (you do know that the original scriptures weren’t written in English, right?) ‣ Translators can’t decide on how to handle two Greek words-one of which Paul seemed to create (making it hard to know for certain). ‣ Some translations go with behavior (aka, “men who have sex with men”), others go with identity (aka, “homosexuals”). SPECIFIC, NOT GENERAL ‣ Paul was naming specific kinds of same-sex behavior, he was not saying that any/all sex acts between two men/women are sinful ‣ A person’s sexual identity is not what is at stake in these verses. WHAT’S REALLY AT STAKE ‣ These two poorly mistranslated words refer to those who exploit others for sex, who sell themselves for sex, or where there is an imbalance in power. ‣ If there is exploitive or transactional sex between two people of the same gender, that is incompatible with life in the Kingdom. CONSISTENCY ‣ Let’s call all people-regardless of their sexual orientation-to a life of equity, mutual respect, and love. May all people strive for a healthy sexual ethic together. Excerpt from Unclobber, Rethinking Out Misuse of The Bible on Homosexuality
Thank you for sharing your experience Jeremy. Praying that God will guide you to a loving and affirming environment as you seek healing from this in the next season of your faith journey.
Don't justify him tell him he need to be saved .this guy on his way to hell and we should tell him if he don't get it right with Christ he is on his way to a devil hell for eternity I hate to see him lost but he chosen that path and when sin finish with him he going perish from the face of God for ever in outer darkness for a few years for a sinful lustful lifestyle rejected what Christ done for him God not playing hiding go see with his sinful life style God take sin seriously and he better take his soul seriously and where he is going to spend eternity forever at
Not us telling him to affirm himself with culture instead of the word of God 😔 Help Holy Spirit. As believers Christ commands us to call each other out IN LOVE. By “AFFIRMING” sexual sin of ANY kind (including straight pre-marital sex) we are not holding one another accountable and we’re actually doing more damage than good. NOW if he said he wasn’t a believer this would be a different story but because he says he is we have to speak BIBLICAL truth to one another IN LOVE (not condemnation)
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I’m sorry you experienced this in the House of God. I went through this with a church because I’m not GAY. I had to be gay to stay, it’s happening on both sides. Please don’t lose your faith in God though. Take time to heal. That’s what I’ve been doing. Forgive them that’s what’s most important. Keep your heart pure.
The scriptures are written. You can not pull out what benefits you in 'the moment'. Theology is theirs and it stands. I am sorry for your feelings but churches remove many members from positions based off not living in the word. Please know you are not alone, this happens too many. KEY..repent, ask God for forgiveness and ask God for clarity. (All sinners) Deny, Cross and Follow. God is concerned about living in HIS WORD. Members and positions are different. God Bless you and your journey.
Jeremy McShan...I'm so sorry this happened to you! I'm just seeing this. I encourage you to connect with a church where you are affirmed and included vs tolerated or excluded! We could use you and your multiple gifts within The Fellowship Of Affirming Ministries. We have safe worship spaces nationwide and internationally for ALL, LGBTQIA included! Please let me know how you are at this stage and what I can do! LaTonya Berea Berea Beloved
Click bait sir. You were only removed from leadership. You can and should continue to participate as a student; and if you love God and His church as You say, you will do just that. Here's your test. Will you quit because you can't be the leader?
God allowed them or sat you down because he wants you to see something. God loves you for sure and sometimes love hurts us to help us, he sat you down because he loves you, this is for your good. He is trying to get your attention. Although the church is just now seeing your lifestyle God has always seen it. Don't take this personal, it's not personal its God's doing and it's kingdom... kingdom of Light. Homosexuality is the agenda of hell, deception and error
But what does the scriptures teach? It's not about what you think or what I think or what First Baptist Church Of Glen Arden thinks but what does the scripture teach???
You constantly said I & Me accept. You said you made yourself to be. Your value is and should be based on your soul. Letting you look good and have a form of godliness but denying the power that could change your unrepentant behavior. This is biblically sound and yiur video actually witnesses that they are living under the biblical principles. So do we need scholars to twist God’s word. Him sitting you down is not condemnation but discipline and everyone needs discipline. Your confession that you didnt want to hear the truth means your heart is hardened and your spirit does affect others. We are spiritual beings. The enemy is stressing you. Praying for your heart to be softened. Praying dor your ear to hear and maybe this discipline will cause you to hear truth. Deny yourself and take up your cross. Jesus died for all sin. Yours and mine no difference. REPENT and allow God ro restore you. 🙏🙇♀️
As a man from Maryland who resides in DC. I know that church very well, and they have to kick out half the congregation . I’m sorry this happened because I know you cared. Finding people who actually care should be a priority. It really is April 2024, that this is even an issue sounds like 1745. Keep your head up & keep being you!
They didn't kick him out, they sat him down. Keep coming to church, be changed not stay the same. Come but not serve until the word begins to change you
Kick out half the congregation for??? Living in and promoting SIN. Unrepentant?? Every member is not in a leadership position. No church surveys their members at the door and tells them they cannot come in. The Holy Scriptures have a standard for living. God even says that He chastises those that He loves. For our good.
If the church is going to remove gay people, don't stop there. Liars, thieves, cheaters, those that are divorced, fat people, and so on and so on. People act in a way they feel and not what Jesus would do. I don't identify with the LGBTQ community, however removing people for "sin" the church will be nearly empty.
You are very confused and yes, You must run to God because HE DOES LOVE YOU! HE DOESN'T LOVE SIN! I pray Jehovah that you will deliver, heal and set this young man free of all the things that have him bound, show him Your true way, YOUR TRUTH, deliver him from bitterness and allow him to feel Your love as you give him truth, understanding and the deliverance only YOU can give him in Jesus Christ name I pray Thank You Jehovah, Amen🙏🌟
God views are what they are about sexual sins. Wether. Adulrry, fornicating, be lesbian, bisexual, gay or what ever. It falls in the category of immorality. The condemnation comes from not walking in the spirit. It’s not that the church doesn’t love you it is the sin that is not loved because God hates sin!!
I'm sorry for what happened to you and that's got to be devastating but I do have this to say I once was gay and i learned that God is love and he does want us to love our neighbors like we would ourselves but I also learned that God is holy heaven is holy witch mean that there are know sin in heaven and there are many of sins that God don't approve of and being gay is one of them when you get saved meaning get baptized repenting of your sins allowing God in your heart as your Lord and Savior you are a new creation in Christ the old you is no more so through him you began to live the way he want you to live. Now I'm not siding with the church because the preacher was supposed to lead you to salvation and he didn't. But God loves you but he doesn't like the sin so I hope this message can help you God bless .
I have read some of the comments please disregard the judgmental women that are commenting on your page. Because they are ignoring what the Bible says about wearing makeup, having that hair process, wearing mixed fabrics, and having a bunch of bad ass children out of wedlock. So ignore what some of these women are saying.
We need to listen to what God says. If God says it's a sin, it's a sin. Comparing my sin to others sin doesn't help me, it deceives me to believing I'm okay when God says otherwise.
There was Brenda, Latisha, Linda, Felicia Dawn, LeShaun, Ines and Alicia Teresa, Monica, Sharon, Nick Lisa, Veronica, Karen, Vicky Cookie, well, I met her in a ice cream parlor Tonya, Diane, Lori, and Carla Marina, Selena, Katrina, Sabrina About three Kims, LaToya and Tina Shelley, Bridget, Cathy, Rasheeda Kelly, Nicole, Angel, Juanita Stacy, Tracie, Rohna and Ronda Donna, Yolanda, Tawana, and Wanda Oh, sorry. Wrong post!
If you are gay & proud, you should have been fired in that role because that lifestyle is an abomination to YAH, the Most High. It’s not what He created but what Satan created. If you are a truly repentant gay man, then they should still have let you go as a church rep. until a time Jesus delivers you. It’s not about what “the church believes.” It’s about what does GOD SAY. Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:27, 1 Corinthians 6:9. Furthermore, you should not be allowed to cause others especially children who watch and imitate what they see to stumble Matthew 18:6 You need to repent with everything in you. 2 Chronicles 7:14 ALL sinners need to REPENT. Ask God to help you and He will if you are really ready to be healed. Psalm 51🙏🏽 Stay in the Word and crying out to God and He will wash you.
As a member of FBCG, I find this interesting but not surprising. I wonder why you were allowed to serve as a leader this long, since this is Pastor Jenkins’ philosophy to not allow those not living accordingly to serve as a leader. Best wishes as you search for a new church family. I’m seeing a few welcomes from Alfred Street Baptist. I’ve visited there (and enjoyed it) but never researched the philosophy. Maybe that’s a good place to start.
God loves you unconditionally. This hurts and I can't believe this happened in the church. I am so thankful that you are doing well and I am praying for you. God bless you 🙏🏾❤️
Matthew 7 says wide is the gate that leads to hell, many will find it. Narrow is the path of righteousness, few will find it. I guess you just told us which path is at Alfred Street if you accept the homosexual lifestyle. Read Romans 1 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I’m so sorry that this happened to you. Don’t allow what happened to stop you from believing in God and worshiping Him. You can be gay & a Christian. God want you to come to Him in Spirit & in Truth so come as you are. Seek Him to find a church that will allow you to be your full self there but don’t lose faith. Even when those who say they’re Christian’s try to use the Bible as a weapon, stand fast in your faith. That same Bible has something that’s condemning them too, so let them know that they can go sit down somewhere. Be encouraged, learn from this and don’t lose hope & don’t lose faith. God’s got you and you got my prayers & support.
@@BeginAgainMC what you cannot do is interject on anyone and their relationship with God. Focus on making sure YOU don’t go to hell before you worry about anyone else. Stay in your lane.
@@glamslamcam you are encouraging someone to “be their full self” which is anti (AGAINST) what the Holy Scriptures teach. You are encouraging a life of sin and you will be held accountable - you should consider that. Responses on youtube are temporary- we have to give an account for our lives. I am consistently in REPENTANCE.
You cannot be a Christian and gay too! The Bible speaks on homosexuality. God made women for man not man and man and women and women! Jenkins don’t judge anyone he goes based on the Bible and gods word! You cannot teach kids and you are not practing the Bible
It is interesting reading all this commentary. It’s like the Civil War all over again. However, one fact that was not necessarily called out was if the liars, fornicators, non-tithe payers, and jealous folk were fired as well. If the church is a hospital where everyone is sin sick, he can’t be the only one that is in need of blood of Jesus each and every day. I’d love for all the Holy Ghost filled saints that took pride and joy in posting scriptures related to his sin to repost the scriptures that condemn theirs. (Crickets). In so many ways his story is courageous like Joshua, vulnerable like Job, and expressive like David. Homosexuals that choose to have the boldness to seek Christ often exude far more integrity than those that simply live to embarrass and fear monger others. Who really won here? Is it the kids that lost a loving teacher? A church member with a broken heart? Or a ministry that is blasted on social media? No! It’s Satan. For the price of some Administrative person at the church keeping it real we have yet another mode of division in the black church. It’s actually pitiful.
If your pastor preached against same-sex relationships, why would you remain at that church or think they would be ok with your lifestyle? By the way you made a great point about church hypocrisy.
Sending love & hugs your way. ❤ Shame on them, truly. While we know that this door closed so that another one could open for you, even brighter… I know it doesn’t stop this from being extremely painful. It is clear how much you loved this church and your work with them. It’s all very disappointing.
You Are very deceived to think your lifestyle is good for teaching the Bible, God Word and Commandments, to youth! Face the truth. See the truth. You live against God's Word! Turn from your sin and follow God! Then you can truthfully teach God's Word. Turn! Turn!
The church did the right thing! If you can’t obey the BIBLE you are trying to teach these babies WHAT BUSINESS do you have teaching them. “If you love me keep my commandments!”
Does your comment apply in a public school setting? Certainly I don't think he was teaching elements of his personal business. If your logic is acceptable across the board, then there may be a reduction of about 60% in the teaching force of America.
Your quote John 14:15 convolutes what are Jesus’ commandments vs what are others. Jesus never had a commandment against the gays. However Jesus did command us to love one another as he loves us (I.e unconditionally). To not judge. And to not store up earthly treasures. I see a lot of violations of those 3 things in these comments and at FBCG.
Jesus commands us to LOVE each other. He can and has been teaching the bible. He is sharing Gods word. Church people need to listen more and judge less.
You need to read the book of Leviticus and Revelation on the topic of homosexuality . You need to repent of your lifestyle and seek the Lord to be healed and cleansed . Your lifestyle is not holy. You need to repent . How can you counsel any young male child on God creating them Male and Female and you’re with a male ?
JEREMY there are many congregations that are waiting for the love and compassion that you have. Unfortunately not many of them will be black congregations. As the black church many, due to the long history of trauma that we still circulate, many will still handle you in this manner. Be gay, just dont show it or post about it......Oh but please keep writing hispel songs that the people fall put too, sing us under the rug, preach us under the table, etc....... MY GOD, were the worst. 15 years!!!!! What changed? Many black churches use people until they have no more use of you. Find a healthy GODLY and God Like community JEREMY because that wasnt it
I commend Pastor Jenkins and the leadership team for sticking to biblical standards. Its unfortunate that this young man feels this but the church cannot change the Bible and its principles for people who follow their own truth.
Hey brother, I am trying to understand the reason for your video. You have said that God made you this way which some don't agree with because it contradicts His word in "free choice." If you are searching for the truth of where God stands on this topic take a look at Lev. 18. Could it be that God is calling you to a place of correction? No shade, but you seem as if you surprise about the church response to your lifestyle, but you have known this for years and have continued to attend......Why? My prayer is that you dig into the Word of God and find the TRUTH and believe it.
Amen, 👏🏾👏🏾for Pastor, how U gonna teach something U don't believe or follow or even B convicted when constantly hearing the truth. I'm not an actual member, but listen every Sunday, & thru out the week Pastor did no wrong 👏🏾🙏🏾
Why people think that the Word of God should be compromised because someone loves to teach, loves children, etc is sooo crazy! I'd love to hear him explain to my little boy what sodomy is....God loves you, but hates your sin. No way you would be " teaching" my kid....have your own and teach them( my bad...you can't can you)
You are loved. Thank you for sharing. You are a gift to others. I’m excited for you to find your path forward in sharing your gifts and talents 💜💙🩵💚💛🧡❤️
"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them." (Romans 16:17)
I’m so sorry this happened to you my friend! I’m also very proud of you for sharing your story and your example of resilience through all of this. You are absolutely correct, it’s not God, it’s man… God loves you just as you were born! ❤ I am certain that you have done way more for God’s Kingdom in the past 15 years than many church members thrice your age… God is the ultimate decision maker, and He’s not through with you yet! 🙏🏾
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
As a member… I considered… that just seeing a spirit on someone is not ENOUGH to remove them because it is not acted upon. If??? They found out that he was in a full blown homosexual relationship. And teaching children. And he is not crying out in REPENTANCE about his sin.
@@BeginAgainMC You’re just as lost! If the leader had the Holy Ghost the dude should’ve never been hired! No one in leadership picked it up? The Holy Ghost is a revealer! No parent saw this either? Girl bye
@@tc3354 we have a ministry for those struggling with homosexuality (ALL THINGS NEW). The point is proven that ANYONE can attend any church - the church is not in the practice of kicking anyone out of a church. This is where we walk with other BELIEVERS, confess our sins, pray for one another etc. A pastor that was caught in a sexual sin was RESTORED in our church according to the teaching in Galatians. It was addressed. No one goes down aisles and yoked people up re sin. HOWEVER IN LEADERSHIP AND ESPECIALLY OVER CHILDREN THERE IS A STANDARD. Have a good day to you too.
I think youre looking compassion instead of conviction. Satan tells us in sin we're doing nothing wrong and its ok. Its the holy spirit that convicts us. 🙏✝️
God wants you to obey him and submit to his word. He loves you, but he hates the sin. I pray that you choose him over your lifestyle. Choose him over your own desire. This is not about the pastor. This is about your relationship with Christ. The enemy wants you to think it's about the pastor and get you caught up and focus on the wrong thing. God wants obedience from you. Even the prophet Nathan had to correct David with his sin. Read the word and take the correct.
I don't think you're being honest with yourself. I know you're hurt; but you know Pastor John K Jenkins would ask another person in leadership to have a seat if he/she was online promoting sex work (for example) or online robbing banks and just saying they love God, though and they were just born a thief or sex work is work. No, we all have to adjust spiritually to align ourselves with God's design for us in accordance with his word.
If you are questioning God, you never knew Him!! I am so pleased that Pastor Jenkins stands on the WORD OF GOD!! We don't Hate the person, we HATE the SIN!! God doesn't make mistakes!! He created you a man period!! Praise God you are not teaching our children in the church. AGAIN, STOP TWISTING WHAT GOD'S WORD IS! NO ONE IS ABUSING YOU.
Bible says it’s easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to see the Kingdom of God. That’s a mighty wealthy church with a mighty wealthy pastor. How are they standing on THAT word?
I am so sorry that this happened to you. One of the many things I love about you is your faith. Don’t turn your back on God because God didn’t kick you out of ministry. The pastor did. Although pastors should be held to a higher standard, they are still only human so they will make mistakes. So we can’t be too shocked when things like this happen. I don’t want to minimize what you’re going through, but I also don’t want you to stress too much about it. I definitely don’t want it to affect your faith. Because your solution seems difficult, but is relatively simple. Find another church that accepts you for who you are. Also, know that you are still a child of The Most High God and there are big plans in the works for you. Who knows? Those plans may be even bigger than teaching Sunday School 😉 Love you!!!! ❤
The solution is to repent from your sin. It's not about the pastor, it's about God's Word. Romans 1:18-26 reads as follows: 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. It's easy to see that you are out of alignment with the Word of God in this area. This is spiritual warfare and we are all involved in the fight. We all need to examine ourselves and repent when we see that we are not following His Word.
Hey Jeremy I’m praying for your strength and courage during this time and for God to continue hold your heart and for your to still seek God during this time! Do not be defeated!! Keep your head held high and walk into your victory because this is just setting you up for your next level! Increase Jesus!!
You were not in a “tickle your ears” church. The word of God is true and will stand forever. You can’t mix what is holy with what is profane. Pray and truly search the Word. All will be revealed if you are truly seeking.
Hugs and love to you! That church didn't deserve you! I hope you go somewhere with loving and accepting people. You seem like an amazing person and I know things will work out for you!
So this church isn't loving or accepting because he can't serve as a professed homosexuality. The world doesn't know what love is. Love is correction. Love is discipline. They had to have that conversation because they love him. So at the end and God tells him depart will God not be loving him. God loves us but that doesn't mean he doesn't do things that may seem to hurt us in the moment for us to be better
@TeAireGriffin this is why church is so problematic. They only want to harp on people who are living their lives out loud BUT....when the pastor has impregnated the choir director, cheated on his wife, misused the building funds NO ONE SAYS A WORD. Churches have selective amnesia...they love to suck a person's talent dry then release them. Maybe the church needs a serious revamp. I was a church goer in my youth but in this past decade I'm not. I don't need to be judged by a lot of hypocritical people.
This young man was not kicked out the church but the facts were he was just sat down from the leadership role. He was never kicked out the church. How could he be at FBCG this long and not know the love in this church or what the church stood for. I’m positive this was not done with malice but from the backing of God’s word.
I have been a member of this church since I was a child. The reason why I stayed as an adult is because we stick to the principles and TRUTH of Gods word. Through the years I have seen them sit down deacons, ministers and other members who have held leadership roles due to behaviors or lifestyles that go against Gods word. God calls us to live in righteousness and when we fall to repent. We were born sinners due to the fall of man which is why this walk calls us to DIE to OURSELVES DAILY. Pastor has been CLEAR and unwavering in his stance on how we are supposed to live as children of God. I wasn’t allowed to sing in the choir anymore until my children’s father and I were married because we moved in together. God made you a man. If you are a teacher of the Bible you already know what the Bible says about how a man is to live their life, and how WE ALL need to live on this earth ESPECIALLY when serving in ministry. Read the word in its entirety and you will understand why this action was taken. I was hurt too but as Pastor always says, God does not care about our feelings but about our souls. Be well.
Amen
Amen! I'm not getting it, how is this man expecting to be justified when you go against God's word and if don't understand why, he should go back to the word of God, then repent. The Pastor did the right thing.
Matthew 19:12 and Acts 8:26-40...food for thought WWJD
I agree! I love the principles of this church!
But who are any of yall to judge? So yall actually going against gods words hypocrites
Hey friend, no shade at all, but this church has sat people in leadership down for having premarital sex, amongst other things that scripture calls sinful. So you’re not alone, their theology is their theology.
You can’t expect a Christian church to affirm a lifestyle that scripture clearly speaks against. Churches don’t typically change their theology based on what’s accepted in culture.
Amen!!!
Exactly 💯
THANK YOU! I’m one of them. This video is very flawed in every way.
Did they kick you out of the church or release you from being a Sunday school teacher? Clearly your lifestyle goes against what most Christian’s believe and you were in a position to influence many children. Being gay is a choice
this so goooood!!!!
In love brother, I'm not sure what you expected from a Christian Church. If you are proudly living a lifestyle that the church does not see as measuring up to Scripture, why would you expect to be held up as a leader/model? Regardless of how you personally feel, I don't think you can chalk this up to bigotry. You are in a church that made their doctrines clear, if you don't agree, you have to be a leader somewhere else
God is love, and He loves you. God is still a holy God. His word will never change, and the Holy Bible is the standard and the guidebook for those of us who confess with our mouths and shall believe in our hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead; we shall be saved. True pastors are called by the Lord Jesus Christ to preach and teach the whole counsel of God, to stay true to the word of God even when having to address topics and issues that are popular and accepted in the culture but are contrary to the word of God. A church has to have biblical qualifications for those in leadership. Even though you were not allowed to serve in your desired position
does not mean that Pastor Jenkins and the church do not love you. He has to answer to God and to obey God rather than laws that have been made by man that are against the word of God. I believe you are still welcome to attend the services there because they do not have those restrictions.
Please read the entire chapter of Romans Chapter 1, and please pay special attention to verses 26-32. I used the Christian Standard Bible, and it may be helpful if you also read those scriptures in the King James Version, the New American Standard Bible, and the Amplified Bible.
Verses 26 & 27:
For this reason God delivered them over to disgraceful passions. Their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. The men in the same way also left natural relations with women and were inflamed in their lust for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons' the appropriate penalty of their error.
With the Lord's help, we all will put off the works of the flesh and put on the Lord Jesus Christ. The blood of Jesus Christ and the word of God cleanses us from all our sins, whatever we as individuals have to battle. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but are mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds....
Again, God loves you, and I am sure Pastor Jenkins does, too!
Bigotry yes! This the clear definition of bigotry, but the church, and most certainly the black church, has, is, and will, continue to use scriptures to debase, denounce, reject and disqualify those who happen to be non-heterosexual conforming. The church staunchly justifies and defends its position based on its interpretation of scripture and, for the black baptist church, that is enough. But don't pretend that it is not bigotry.
Exactly mi point .This small community of LGBTQ think they can rule the church of God.
100 percent! Spoken more eloquently than myself!
Ok, so I remember this man. He taught my kids in Sunday school when we were still in Maryland and attended this church. He was a very nice gentleman who always brought snacks, and my kids learned a lot in his class, BUT that's not enough. Jesus says, "If you love Me, you will keep my commandments." Sir, your love for your lifestyle is greater than your love for God. Ask me how I can make that judgment call? I'm glad you asked. It's because of your decisions. While the Lord requires us Christians to crucify our flesh DAILY, you have made the choice to gratify yours. Your lifestyle is what the bible calls sin. It's not the only sin in the world but one of many. The world has painted a Jesus that accepts everything and everyone. That's simply not the Jesus of the bible. There was a bold line drawn as to what God allows and what He doesn't. The fact that you taught for so long and were not thoroughly interviewed and given the biblical standards in which a Christian should uphold and be assessed over time saddens me. There's no such thing as being a "Gay Christian." It's an oxymoron. You are either gay or a Christian, but you can't be both. Why? Because God says you can't. Leaders have to do a better job with not just allowing whoever wants to volunteer, just welcome them right on in, and put them positions without inspecting the fruit of that individual. Not just once but throughout their tenue of that position. This is never about whether they are a "good person" or not but this is all about their daily decisions, lifestyle, their convictions because I can honestly say that if we had known, we would've pulled our kids out of His class and brought it to the leadership's attention that they had someone that was in a prominent position to teach our children about the bible who doesn't even embrace it himself. Young man, you need to repent and realize the error of your ways not just to get the position back but this is way bigger than Sunday School. Your eternal security is on the line. You want to show these kids something, show them that you chose Jesus over your flesh. That will impact the lives of many. May the Lord grant you the boldness to walk away from your sin, get delivered from the spirit of homosexuality that has you bound and surrender it all to the Lord who is a KEEPER. Seek wise biblical counsel on deliverance because the church did the right thing and I understand that you were hurt by their decision but they ultimately have to answer to the Lord so they can't be concerned with who is offended because they don't want to follow the bible and were relieved of their duties to teach the children.
Here are some scriptures that will help you understand what the Word of God says about the topic.
John 14:15 ( John 14:15-18 NKJV
[15] “If you love Me, keep My commandments. [16] And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- [17] the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. [18] I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
(Psalms 89:31-32 NKJV
[31] If they break My statutes And do not keep My commandments, [32] Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, And their iniquity with stripes.
(I Corinthians 6:8-11 NKJV
[8] No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! [9] Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [10] nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
(I Corinthians 3:16-21 NKJV
[16] Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? [17] If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. [18] Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. [19] For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; [20] and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” [21] Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours:
(I John 2:15 NKJV
[15] Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
OMG. So well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾, wonderful scripture I pray he reads them & turns his life around, 🙏🏾 this is such a sad video, I truly pray for his soul, 🙏🏾👏🏾amen Pastor did the right thing!!!
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man-and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.”
Romans 1:18-32 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/rom.1.18-32.NKJV
Thank you for sharing this information with this young MAN. No shade, just love.
Where in this scripture u wrote does it say gayness is a sin it was re wrote so many times non of us really know we just have to believe and I belive Gid lives all and knew he we were when he made us we should come as we are and as long as u have a relationship with the lord Christian’s should be happy and who are any of these people to judge that’s a sin to and there is no sin lesser or more sin is sin.. the older generation definitely doesn’t understand homosexuality so there stuck in there ways not being open minded looking oat the fact you are human and love the lord u prolly love the lord more then half the people commenting we all sin what makes u better then the next person bc your not like them doesn’t give rights to judge and u not understanding doesn’t mean he is wrong or sinning who are we let God be the judge let people worship and uplift the lord I love the lord and nobody could tell me different bc of my sexual preferences woooooow how dare some people the original Bible got changed by the white man so many times it’s almost a another book. I said what I said I’m unmoved by people who judge I keep living my best life and my happiest life through the lord. I seen one scripture in Luke about men and men but not woman and woman I guess bc two woman aren’t considered having sex not sure but why just sodemy and that scripture what there from the beginning
Alright, you broke it down and with the Word of God to back it up 👏👏Praise God. When I visited FBCG from Connecticut. I truly was blessed by M.O.G Pastor John Jenkins and loved by the greeters & church members, even in the rest room where we chatted after service. Pastor Jenkin surely doesn't waver from God's Word, no no....wrong church!!!! Wrong Pastor!!!
To God be the
I will be praying for this young man in Jesus' name, Amen
This is the kind of courageous conversation that the church needs to have. As uncomfortable as it may be it is worthy to discuss. My thought is that they did not say you couldn’t serve in ministry, they said you can’t serve in a “teaching ministry”. If you don’t believe in the whole doctrinal practices of this church, you should not be a teacher in this ministry. However, I do empathize with you because perhaps the leaders failed to have this stipulated when you were chosen to teach. If you have been teaching for 14 years then what was told to you about the requirement to teach?
I trust that this ministry wants you to seek out scripture for yourself. You clearly stated that you don’t believe the pastor’s interpretation of scripture regarding homosexuality…this is why you maybe shouldn't be teaching. If you teach in this ministry you should be in alignment with what it believes so that when and if the question is asked in your class you can give the answer that aligns with the church doctrine. If you cannot, then you shouldn’t teach. I am praying for you, I feel hurt that you experienced this,. God does love you and He will provide the answer that you need. Be open to the Holy Spirit. Even in this He is working.
None of this is about LOVE or being a GOOD person it’s abt publicly being in LEADERSHIP position in church BUT PUBLICLY not Following THE WORD .. ppl have too understand that when in LEADERSHIP u can also be RESPONSIBLE for LEADING others too 🔥
If u not living right in an area of ur life publicly sit back sit tite and focus on ur SPIRITUALITY & relationship with GOD 1st .
Its not just about leadership, its about membership. We just dont often carry out what scripture endorses in terms of church discipline.
He loves you but not the sin you are doing
As a Christian who was formerly homosexual. I hear your heart and plea to the modern Christian church.
What I hear is that you were not disassociated from the church or “kicked out” of the body of Christ. No man has the power to do that. What I also hear is that the elders (gatekeepers)of the church felt it was best for you to not serve in a leadership role while current being a self-avowed servant-leader.
What I discern and gather is, that church has a concern that… as a leader, it is critical that you practice scriptural holiness, and a life that both in spirit and truth reflects that of Christ. The other part of their concern perhaps is not your faith, your ability to love or teach, but the issue of true practical theology. None are not perfect; however, Christian ethics, justice, love, holiness, worship, and benevolence matters. Sexuality matters.
I support and love you and affirm God knew you, considering the Jeremiah text; however, he also knew that Christ would come to set us free from sins that easily beset us or has us in a grip. Unfortunately, this includes lifestyles that take over our identity and sexuality. God knows your potential in Christ also.
I know this hurts and seems unfair and I empathize with you. As a person who was formerly homosexual, Christ does do a work in us that only God can do. None of us are excluded from that. God’s is all-inclusive and all renewing. This is all new and I know your heart is tender still, but I want to encourage you to seek the face of God and let come alongside you.
I encourage you not to blame God. Don’t blame God. Don’t turn your back on Him. Lean in, grieve this loss, let God lead you, and stay in his face and loving care.
@@Quietonset Very well said; the decision was based on God’s Word and from a place of love. I encourage you to take time to be still and seek the voice of God. Reflect upon this experience and ask the Lord what He requires of you. God loved you and only wants the best for you. God bless.
I think what’s more unfortunate is that after 14 years there was no conviction. (Not condemnation) but conviction to be led by the Holy Spirit to be in alignment with his word. This is not bigotry it’s a call to address a hardness of heart. You are accepted and loved. But be clear that The fruits you speak of would include laying down the idol of sexual sin whether gay or straight. It hurts to hear that you are hurt. But don’t allow a hardness of heart and idolatry of sexuality cause you to separate yourself from the community of Christ. I had to lay my burden of premarital sex DOWN and that was a straight relationship. Had I stood on that AND tried to be in leadership I would have been let go too. I will be praying for your strength and for the Holy Spirit to reveal himself to you completely.
It’s unfortunate that someone who is so ignorant of the scripture was allowed to teach for 14 years. If you read the Bible, read the whole Bible. It sounds like you trying to set them up, I see right through you. Your excuses are hilarious you know better. I’m praying for you.
God is trying to have you look at yourself. Sometimes we don’t want to hear what God is saying because it goes against what we feel, think, believe about ourselves. It is hard and the first thing we do is look outside of ourselves to blame someone or something. My next question is do you think God makes mistakes? I pray you open your heart to what God is trying to change in you.
One thing about Pastor Jenkins is He is not a hypocrite. I heard him speak against homosexuality with Wanda Sykes sitting in the congregation. He's gonna preach and teach the BIBLE period! You're being relieved of your teaching position wasn't about not loving YOU it was about your life style of what is considered sin
I feel like this video should be a phone call/convo with the church. Not with us. But since we're here... you can't be upset with "A Church" that enforces what the Bible speaks against. Idk what you disagree with here. It's a church 🤷🏿♂️
Get real
Amen. He was not kicked out of the church, he was eliminated from the leadership.
I'm still waiting for the part where he was kicked out. Did they cast him out of the ministry, or just ask him not to teach Sunday school anymore? Did they stop loving him, or just ask him to stop teaching Sunday school?
We do not stop loving people at FBCG INTERNATIONAL. We even have a ministry for homosexual struggles. All Things New.
That within itself is the hypocrisy of the church! If you can’t see that then I am sorry for you! I wouldn’t want to be part of a church like that! Black folks are so indoctrinated, it’s really sad!
@@BeginAgainMChomosexual struggles, really??? That’s probably more damaging than helpful. Just allow people to love who they love.
@@cwc75333Do you suggest that a person who has struggles with pornography, just give in? What about a sex addict?
@@cwc75333that isnt Christian. He can love whomever he wants but it isnt biblical. And if they are teaching the Bible, order, God’s love- it has requirements. We are required to let go of our worldly choices, and choose to follow God and His word.
This just happened at my church Pastor didn’t ask them to leave the church he said you can’t be in a leadership position.
First Baptist is a great church! They are Bible believing and Bible teaching. Since you have a disbelief in the Bible , God’s word and that is the church’s doctrine by your own omission-- why don’t you go to a church that BELIEVE the way you do…. Your lifestyle doesn’t line up with what that church believes, once they found out that you were gay and that’s against their beliefs, they ask you to step down, they never threw you out, they never told you that they didn’t love you, they removed you from serving in the ministry as your lifestyle doesn’t line of with their beliefs or God’s word. You’re talking about what scholars said about the Bible, so why don’t you go to a church of those scholars 💁🏽♀️. No one is condemning you, this church is speaking the truth of God. love, God loves everyone but He hates the sin. The Bible is clear on homosexuality… and since you don’t believe in the Bible and you quote scholars… keep that momentum and go to a church that accepts your lifestyle. But don’t cause discourse because you can’t change God‘s people or God’s word to correspond with a belief that is an abomination to God. Why and how are you teaching children at First Baptist anyway??? yet you don’t believe in the Bible ??? Go and be changed in Jesus’ name!
As a mother who attends FBCG and have been for years, and with a 2nd grader who regularly attends Sunday School and Bible study, I applaud the church for enforcing the principles according to God’s Word. Also, we can’t try to find “our truth” in the Bible by listening to others whose beliefs align with ours, no matter the sin. I agree with a previous statement that after 14 years there’s no conviction on your part. God loves us all, but we all must repent of our sins. By the way, if you’ve been at the church for as long as you say, you know good and well that you are NOT being singled out. You know pastor calls out ALL sins. Read the Bible please and ask God to bring clarity to you. It sounds like you want to remain in your sin.
Well you should know that we all have sin and God wants us to Repent and turn away from our Sin! You are still in it! What word of God are you reading! Yes God loves all people but whatever sin we are in we have to Repent and not to return to it no More! You can confess God all you want and post thousand scriptures but your still Sinning!
Amen
&so are you
@@danielking6854 REPENT.
@@BeginAgainMC 🧱🔏✝️👁️🛑🐝🌿
If you love God, you’ll be obedient to His word! All of it and not just the part that feels good. All of it!
Love this, ALL of the Word, not just LOVE!!!
My knowledge of first baptist beliefs and convictions, set give are biblically based are very clear. I'm not a member, but I have a close connection with this ministry. I said all of that to say that for someone who have served the amount of years you stated, it should not be a shock to you that they are totally against this way of life. Upon knowing their beliefs, you should have been integral enough to let them know this from the very beginning. Overall, my prayers, that this experience does not turn you away from The True God.
‘Biblically based’ is a loose term, especially when preaching about this specific subject is seldom done within the cultural context of the verses when they were written. It’s easy to read an English version and call that truth, or even the literal Greek or Hebrew and call that truth. But it’s unreliable without a look at context, an honest one. How did homosexuality show up in biblical times? Usually through prostitution or pedastry, both being situations where one party had disproportionate power over another. The prevalence of homosexuality at time was overwhelmingly Non-consensual or consensual only for pay. Context matters.
Point in case, the Bible clearly says women should not lead men, yet FBCG has no problem with women in leadership. How is the structure of women in leadership over men biblically based? Their rationale: context of the verse.
@@CptStepmanwhat!!!! Are you serious. Homosexuality produces nothing but lust.
@@CptStepman which women are in leadership/authority over men? I worship there - have for over 20 years. We have women leaders yes but share the context and Holy Scripture. And homosexuality, adultery, theft, etc etc are dealt with separately- what does this leadership comment have to do with this??
the point is the cherry picking of the Bible and its beliefs, even within the New Testament. Don’t pick on one thing and excuse another. Or if you’ve considered context and came to a fuller understanding of scripture because of that, then give the lgbt conversation the same due diligence. The Bible says women should not have leadership/authority over men. 1 Tim 2:12. That’s not my personal belief, but Paul said it, the same way he say gays will not inherit the kingdom of God. Note: these are Paul’s words, not Jesus’. But since everyone wants to stand beside Paul on that, keep the same energy about all Paul’s words. Paul also said in Corinthians that women should be silent in church (1 Cor 14:34), again not my belief but it’s what Paul said. I believe FBCG and other churches have looked past these scriptures, rationalizing the decision based on their contemporal cultural context.
FBCG has women leading prayers during services, leading the service, and preaching. Behind the scenes the managerial structure of the ministries has women leading departments that instruct/lead men. Education being one of them. Further, women are leading young males in Sunday school (this argument is analogous to the argument presented in these comments that Jeremy was not fit to lead because he is gay , which is not explicitly stated in scripture while the disqualification of women is explicitly stated. Yet for the women that’s a non issue. Make it make sense). I grew up at FBCG so I am speaking from my most formative years. 20+ years. Active member in multiple ministries, faithful gross income tithe-abiding member, etc.
As far as how it’s all related, Pastor sets the example. Why did a sermon where he was disallowing his youngest son from doing what his peers did, lead to a diatribe about the worlds allowances that aren’t the churches, that then led to gay bashing? Like bringing the gays in was left field and unnecessary. His son was like 5 and wanted to go play on a Sunday or something. Did punching down on the gays need to be injected into that? No but it shows the specific disdain and picking on of this group. He doesn’t preach as harshly or as frequently about the overweight members. He doesn’t preach against material possessions as harshly or as often either. No he picks on the gays particularly. If the majority of the congregation isn’t struggling with that, you’d think it wouldn’t be so frequent. You’d think the messages would deal with the most common issues facing the congregation. Instead, he unifies them in hatred and disdain for the lgbt. You’ve seen the sermons about husbands loving their wives and the women clap and yell, then he mentions women submitting to their husbands and the men clap and yell. And then when he mentions the gays, everyone claps and yells, further invigorating and justifying hatred towards gay people. He unifies them in that although it’s a somewhat fringe issues for the tens of thousands of members. That’s not how Jesus would handle the topic. IMO. He would not encourage the applauding of disdain for a group of believers.
Jesus said in John 3:16 whosever believes is saved. Paul said xyz groups of people wouldn’t inherit the kingdom of God. So are to take Paul’s word as equal to Jesus’? Are we to read John 3:16 with an asterisk? (And if so, why not preach it that way from the get go. You can be saved except….). Also please get into the Greek of that verse and how it uses a compound word that cites back to the Old Testament Hebrew that regarded male prostitution, not consensual relationships between men. Prostitution being a huge biblical theme that Israel was compared to when they disobeyed God.
@@CptStepman Ok.
I am not going to argue with you re the sin of homosexuality. There are multiple verses on it. Multiple. God redeemed me from the homosexual lifestyle. I cannot speak on women leaders because I have facilitated and taught men in my personal life re the Word of God.
To say that you are aware of what is discussed in every sermon, every teaching, every workshop at any church is foolish. No one could quantify that.
I am going to stick to the Holy Scriptures 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is often taught re the Body of Christ.
It speaks of what we used to be.
Our former lives before being Born Again and receiving power to overcome sin.
There is no disdain for people that are in the homosexual lifestyle - because how could so many attend church for years as evidenced by the author of this post.
The issue is the acts of homosexuality.
I was once in that life and now I am GRATEFUL TO BE OUT OF IT.
You are not defined by your SIN.
The enemy of this world wants to trick people into thinking that having sex - identifies them.
It is a LIE FROM THE ENEMY.
I do not know the particular of this man being removed from teaching children as an openly gay man.
Why all of a sudden are alternative lifestyles being thrust into the lives of children??
Why are drag queens choosing to be in spaces for children?
In Leviticus when the Sodomites banged on Lot’s door to rape them - it reads that YOUNG AND OLD were included.
Young!!!!!!!!!!
These people were so wicked and deranged that they were teaching their practices to their children. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON NOW!
Satan has a counterfeit for everything.
God says man + woman = life.
he says man+man & woman+woman which DOES NOT PRODUCE ANYTHING.
God says GOD IS LOVE.
satan says that love is love which could LITERALLY not figuratively mean anything.
This includes pedophilia which is now being attempted to be added as an orientation that needs to be protected.
The enemy is your enemy not any man or what any pastor teaches.
So it is the same as someone being married and committing adultry, or someone sleeping around with members of the church. It’s all immorality. It’s explicit in the word. I can say I love God but if I’m in sin then My leader would relieve me of what ever I am doing.
Read the book "Can The Penitent Be Healed? My Journey", a great example of God's deliverance.
It is true that God has given humans the gift of free will. We have the power to choose our path in life and make decisions based on our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual needs. Blaming God for the consequences of our actions is not fair because ultimately, we are responsible for the choices we make. Similarly, it's not fair to blame the church or the pastor for our spiritual growth because we have the ability to read and study the scriptures for ourselves. We must take ownership of our spiritual journey and actively seek knowledge and understanding. It is also important to be aware of the devil's schemes and not let his army deceive us. We should strive to live a life that is pleasing to God and not fall prey to the devil's kingdom.
When I first saw this video I was appalled; I am not an actual member of FBCG, but I am a regular watcher, & an active member of my COGIC church. We teach the BIBLE But then I thought 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank U for letting me know that this is truly a Bible based church (I already knew, which is why I watch) & thank U for letting people know this is a Bible based church, I heard Pastor preach on this video, I had not seen it then, but his stance is the same SIN is SIN so glad he had U sit down, wondering how U can teach from a Bible U do not believe in & "teach" under a Pastor U believe is teaching a lie when he says homosexuality is a SIN, I also hear him speak against lying, abortion, drinking, smoking, drugs, stealing, cheating, sexual sin with man & woman, (what God intended) if U are not married. He preaches against ALL sin hypocrites as well. All will send U to HELL unless U change & accept Christ in your life: Supposed 1 of those children U was teaching saw or heard of your lifestyle or your social media, & asked U about it, what do U tell them, Pastor Jenkins is teaching a lie when he says homosexuality is a sin?🤷🏾♀️ Yes God loves all of His children, but He hates ALL sin. All have sinned, but some have repented & accepted Christ & changed their lifestyle, I pray U search the scriptures & see that Pastor did the right thing, accept Christ in your life & turn from eternal destruction.
Be encouraged in the Word, and Stay with God!🙏
Lord, have mercy on all of us. I'm far from righteous, I pray 🙏🏾 the Holy Spirit reveals to you that the lifestyle you're living in is not of God. Ephesians 6:12, Take this time to dig deeper into the word of God and open your heart to receive what he has to tell you. May the peace of God be with you 🙏🏾
I have been a member of FBCG for more than 10 years now. Pastor Jenkins is a pastor who goes by the book of God. If you don’t like what he says you don’t love the word of God. I pray for you brother. The Bible states clear as day that homosexuality is frowned upon is God eyes. And if you are not religious you can see that if you can give life from that partnership than it is not from Christ
I left church 7 years ago and I don't plan on going back. I was in the church since my mother was pregnant with me. I don't align with Christianity anymore. I used to teach Sunday school at my church, I taught the children. after I got pregnant, they told me I couldn't teach Sunday school because I was pregnant and unwed. they said it's teaching the kids that fornication is ok. mind you, the man I got pregnant by we had been together 4 years at the time we got pregnant. we met at school...and had been friends for 4 years. to this day him and I are still together, our family is thriving, we haven't gotten married because I don't care about it and I was never one to even Dre about marriage. like for me, it's not that important. but the fact they had drug dealers, thugs, felons andnall types of people that attended this church, but they singled me out because I had sex and got pregnant with my best friend. I left church that day and never went back.
Sending you love sis! So glad you and your family are thriving. Keep doing it your way ❤
They kicked you out of the whole church? Refused to let you in? Or relieved you of teaching??
These are two different matters.
Congratulations on being with a man and not a woman, which is the topic of the post. However, the church doesn't condemn people, it's God's word that calls you to repent so that you are not condemned. You were living opposite of God's word and all of us were at some point in time. However, God call us to align our lives with His word. Since you were not in alignment you were disciplined as we all should be if we are off point. You said that you are still unmarried. I pray that your love for each other blossoms into marriage and God's richest blessings find you.
Everyone has their own judgement day, no one will be able to validate for you. Why don’t we just wait until that time to see who’s right? Just keep living as you are and see if it was the way God wanted you to live. Why do you need everyone’s Validation on how you want to live your life?
All I’m gonna say is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10… May God Bless you
And all I'm gonna say is Matt 7:3-5, 1 Tim 2:9-12, and 1 Cor 14:34🤫
Thank you for confirming that this is a true biblical church and I would love to visit it!!!
You need to thank God that they loved you enough to tell you the truth so you could repent and turn away from your evil sins and turn to Christ for mercy and forgiveness, that you may obtain eternal life
This isn’t a comment on homosexuality but rather my perspective on any church. I am a member of FBCG and was a tithing member who was divorced. Many years after my divorce I wanted to remarry. Pastor didn’t allow me to be married in my church where I was serving and paying my tithes. Did I get offended and leave? No, I did not. I prayed and asked God to guide me. I prayed and found peace with my decision to remarry. I respect that Pastor is the Shepherd of that church and I was completely content to find a church where I could remarry and I continued to attend, serve and support my church. The moral of my story is, he is the Pastor. If you find you are no longer able to follow his teachings and guidance, you move on. You don’t take to social media to ridicule the church.
Agree 1000%
That's the problem yall put these preachers and pastors on a pedestal and because of that what ever they say and do is valid and ok. That's wrong! Y'all follow religion more than you follow Jesus because he wouldn't have done this.
That’s the problem with church and the black community. We are encouraged not talk about anything, which is how a lot of mess perpetuates.
He didn’t ridicule the church. He just told his story. He didn’t say a disparaging word about the church. But please, tell us how they’re the victim 🙄 🥱
@@MrBj354she said the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you responded to. She said she DID NOT AGREE with him (and the Holy Scriptures say the same re remarrying while a spouse is still alive)
As a member of FBCG, I am sorry this happened to you. Please do not turn your back on God and what He has for you to do. I’m praying for you! 🙏🏾
I can empathize with the hurt and disappointment of the decision however, if you truly are a fellow believer you also have to be aware of biblical church discipline. Sin is sin no matter what form it takes. As someone who serves at my church I know for a fact that if I were out having pre-marital sex (which I’m not) yet something like that came out, then my elders would also take the stance to sit me down until I was walking in repentance. The church has stepped away from discipline out of fear of the culture. But Jesus is coming back to a church unstained without spot of blemish. Please take this time to truly seek the Lord on what repentance looks like. It’s one thing to have this experience and fight through the temptation, but to continue to live in it openly, is indeed sin my friend.
Please consider Alfred Street Baptist Church. We would love to have you and welcome you to serve in our educational department.
With no background check? Only off of the knowledge that he is gay? How does this help or protect the children?
He just did 15 years at another church with no issues. No issues with the children and what does his sexuality have to do with him teaching about God to children? That fear talk coming from you.
I know someone from Alfred Street - let me ask about offering jobs/membership based on homosexuality.
This is WILD!!!!!
True Christians that follow the Holy Bible would never coddle and welcome a man or woman who clearly was living in sin and had no desire to repent to come and teach their children. Either whoever made this comment is not a Christian or luke warm at best and I pray to God that they are not in leadership and their views don't reflect the leadership of their pastor because this whole church is in error and will be judged for not sharing the truth that can only be found in the Word of God not in someone's perspective or opinion. Get back to basics, which is THE BIBLE PERIODTTTT!
Love ASBC!!! Can’t wait to attend one Sunday!!
Thank you for sharing your story❤ I’m an Online member and have been screening for this form of discrimination. I believe as Christians we should have love in our hearts for all and that God is doing a new thing in this world. Keeping the commandments means we don’t judge personal lives. Thank you for nourishing young minds and engaging with those who are still understanding. Taking the Lord’s name in vain is using the Bible to condemn the People of God. We must welcome all Christ minded folks ✨ praying for your strength!!
If you love God you will keep his commandments..God never said be comfortable living in your truth we are to live in Gods truth...thats where the problem comes..God has no gray area it's either black or white ...(man and woman) produce life..God is life...any lifestyle other then that is against his will...Dont be deceived 💯
Oh Cheryl, read the room. This is a space where love, intelligence and respectful curiosity collide, not silly dogma. Though you’ve been taught that everything is black and white, it’s not. Science, chromosome breakdown specifically, helps us understand that God created us all with a lot more nuance than people care to accept. Go in peace.
@@cspence85 brother read the Bible.
@@rochyns8567 lol wrong person friend. I have and can quote it pretty well. That doesn’t give me the right to ignore facts, science and other people’s experiences.
Facts!! Why are we always trying to get ppl to cosign our mess. Why don't we deal with our own mess?? Just bc the mass amount of people accept something doesn't make it acceptable. I'm the parent of a gay child also whom I love to life. And the sins of that child are no more severe than my own! The last time I checked, sins didn't have degrees. We both will all be judged accordingly. The world can't convince me that right is wrong and wrong is right. The bible says what the bible says. Many aspects of the bible do not require interpretation. This topic being one of them and there are many others. Peace and love to all. May WE ALL FIND THE WAY!!!!
SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
If you are living in sin and not trying to come out, you or anyone else shouldn't serve in any level of ministry. You haven't obeyed the foundation level of Obedience. I'm sure you are gifted but your gift is easily perverted and imagine that being expressed to the kids. Your gift is open season for the enemy to use and infiltrate the very generation he is after. Seek deliverance, get pure then come back and serve
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I'm sorry this happened to you, God love you he loved us all.❤
I am a FBCG member. I am deeply sorry that this happened to you at FBCG. May your heart heal in time and hope/pray that you are able to still keep your connection to God in the long run….🙏🏾
So, they still sing James Cleveland?
What does this mean??
@@BeginAgainMCHe was gay.
@@VocaLocs so what does his life have to do with this???
Nope.
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
The first love towards God is keeping his commandment, all sexual sin is against the will of God,the church is doing this for you out of love
I live in Texas and watch the services at FBCG. This church is one of the few that actually follows the Word of God. Gay people are welcome to become members of any church. That does not mean that gays should lead any ministry especially with children. Christians, like God, should love the person and hate the sin.
God bless you. Keep pushing forward 🙏🏽
So sorry this happened to you. God is love! Keep your faith and try not to let this situation break it. I know it can be a challenge.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Pastor Jenkins (and FBCG leadership) relieved you of your duties as a Sunday School Teacher-yet, Stephen Hurd and Anthony Brown are on payroll? This is why the congregation of “I use to attend…” is steadily growing. This is completely baffling how can we (the black church and the church at large) coddle some and condemn others.
Friend, please don’t give up on Jesus, and do not let this unfortunate situation deter you from your purpose and destiny in God; neither allow it to have you question the gift that God has placed inside you. Remain prayerful and continue authentically living and growing in the unconditional love of Christ.
Thisssss😂 😂😂😂
Jesus come Get your People 😂😂☠️
THIS!!! 💣
Stephen Hurd and Anthony are gay?
This what I’m asking
I’m so confused about why you don’t understand the reason you were sat down.
Same
Fornication is sin. God made me a woman. But I can't fornicate with a man, because that is how God made me. The Bible is very clear on sin. You seem like a very nice person. But good and nice is not the requirement for salvation. We have to turn away from sin (repent), accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.
If you don't believe what is in the bible is true, why do you want to teach it? How do you accept some of the bible as truth and some as untruth?
Man wants to live how he wants to live. Man wants to create god in his own image. A god that accepts them as they are. But this is not truth. Absolutely, God loves you. But God does not love our sin....whether we are straight or gay.
The church should not condone sin, regardless of whether you are straight or gay.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will …
what sin did the church see or witness him commit? Existing?
Everybody is a sinner. So nobody should be in church.
Holy shit.
🙏🙏👏👏👏👏
Not necessarily my opinion but there are 2 sides to every coin…
1 COR 6 & 1 TIM 1 - Will Not Inherit the Kingdom
“Do not be deceived… male prostitutes, sodomites… will not inherit the Kingdom of God.” -1 Corinthians 6:9
Traditional interpretation (and yours) used to Clobber gay people
PASSAGE RECAP - In two different letters, Paul writes out a list of sins and includes” homosexuality” as something that excludes you from the Kingdom.
JUSTIFICATION FOR DISCRIMINATION - This makes the Bible “clear” that homosexuality is a sin.
‣ Not worse than other sins, perhaps,
but nonetheless still sinful.
‣ Same-sex behavior is incompatible
with a life lived for God.
TRANSLATION ISSUES (you do know that the original scriptures weren’t written in English, right?)
‣ Translators can’t decide on how to handle two Greek words-one of
which Paul seemed to create (making it hard to know for certain).
‣ Some translations go with behavior
(aka, “men who have sex with men”), others go with identity (aka, “homosexuals”).
SPECIFIC, NOT GENERAL
‣ Paul was naming specific kinds of
same-sex behavior, he was not saying that any/all sex acts between two men/women are sinful
‣ A person’s sexual identity is not what is at stake in these verses.
WHAT’S REALLY AT STAKE
‣ These two poorly mistranslated words refer to those who exploit
others for sex, who sell themselves
for sex, or where there is an imbalance in power.
‣ If there is exploitive or transactional
sex between two people of the
same gender, that is incompatible with life in the Kingdom.
CONSISTENCY
‣ Let’s call all people-regardless of
their sexual orientation-to a life of
equity, mutual respect, and love. May all people strive for a healthy
sexual ethic together.
Excerpt from Unclobber, Rethinking Out Misuse of The Bible on Homosexuality
Thank you for sharing your experience Jeremy. Praying that God will guide you to a loving and affirming environment as you seek healing from this in the next season of your faith journey.
Don't justify him tell him he need to be saved .this guy on his way to hell and we should tell him if he don't get it right with Christ he is on his way to a devil hell for eternity I hate to see him lost but he chosen that path and when sin finish with him he going perish from the face of God for ever in outer darkness for a few years for a sinful lustful lifestyle rejected what Christ done for him God not playing hiding go see with his sinful life style God take sin seriously and he better take his soul seriously and where he is going to spend eternity forever at
Not us telling him to affirm himself with culture instead of the word of God 😔 Help Holy Spirit. As believers Christ commands us to call each other out IN LOVE. By “AFFIRMING” sexual sin of ANY kind (including straight pre-marital sex) we are not holding one another accountable and we’re actually doing more damage than good. NOW if he said he wasn’t a believer this would be a different story but because he says he is we have to speak BIBLICAL truth to one another IN LOVE (not condemnation)
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I’m sorry you experienced this in the House of God. I went through this with a church because I’m not GAY. I had to be gay to stay, it’s happening on both sides. Please don’t lose your faith in God though. Take time to heal. That’s what I’ve been doing. Forgive them that’s what’s most important. Keep your heart pure.
The scriptures are written. You can not pull out what benefits you in 'the moment'. Theology is theirs and it stands. I am sorry for your feelings but churches remove many members from positions based off not living in the word. Please know you are not alone, this happens too many. KEY..repent, ask God for forgiveness and ask God for clarity. (All sinners)
Deny, Cross and Follow. God is concerned about living in HIS WORD.
Members and positions are different.
God Bless you and your journey.
Jeremy McShan...I'm so sorry this happened to you! I'm just seeing this. I encourage you to connect with a church where you are affirmed and included vs tolerated or excluded! We could use you and your multiple gifts within The Fellowship Of Affirming Ministries. We have safe worship spaces nationwide and internationally for ALL, LGBTQIA included! Please let me know how you are at this stage and what I can do!
LaTonya
Berea Berea Beloved
Click bait sir. You were only removed from leadership.
You can and should continue to participate as a student; and if you love God and His church as You say, you will do just that. Here's your test. Will you quit because you can't be the leader?
God allowed them or sat you down because he wants you to see something. God loves you for sure and sometimes love hurts us to help us, he sat you down because he loves you, this is for your good. He is trying to get your attention. Although the church is just now seeing your lifestyle God has always seen it. Don't take this personal, it's not personal its God's doing and it's kingdom... kingdom of Light. Homosexuality is the agenda of hell, deception and error
God use who he choose.
So many open and affirming churches in the DMV. Please bring your gifts and serve God and people in a place that loves you.
That is horrific that there are many churches that are AFFIRMING SIN.
#REPROBATES
But what does the scriptures teach? It's not about what you think or what I think or what First Baptist Church Of Glen Arden thinks but what does the scripture teach???
You constantly said I & Me accept. You said you made yourself to be. Your value is and should be based on your soul. Letting you look good and have a form of godliness but denying the power that could change your unrepentant behavior. This is biblically sound and yiur video actually witnesses that they are living under the biblical principles. So do we need scholars to twist God’s word. Him sitting you down is not condemnation but discipline and everyone needs discipline. Your confession that you didnt want to hear the truth means your heart is hardened and your spirit does affect others. We are spiritual beings. The enemy is stressing you. Praying for your heart to be softened. Praying dor your ear to hear and maybe this discipline will cause you to hear truth. Deny yourself and take up your cross. Jesus died for all sin. Yours and mine no difference. REPENT and allow God ro restore you. 🙏🙇♀️
As a man from Maryland who resides in DC. I know that church very well, and they have to kick out half the congregation . I’m sorry this happened because I know you cared. Finding people who actually care should be a priority. It really is April 2024, that this is even an issue sounds like 1745. Keep your head up & keep being you!
They didn't kick him out, they sat him down. Keep coming to church, be changed not stay the same. Come but not serve until the word begins to change you
@@TeAireGriffin is this directed at ME? I never mentioned he was kicked out. My point still remains , caring is important & rare .
I was waiting for someone else to say this!!!
Kick out half the congregation for??? Living in and promoting SIN. Unrepentant?? Every member is not in a leadership position. No church surveys their members at the door and tells them they cannot come in. The Holy Scriptures have a standard for living. God even says that He chastises those that He loves. For our good.
@@BeginAgainMC “I CANNOT….. SO I WONT” ❄️❄️
I'm trying to understand why you made a video, and people on here agreeing. And if the Bible ain't true.
He’s allowed to speak 🗣️
Facts!!!
If the church is going to remove gay people, don't stop there. Liars, thieves, cheaters, those that are divorced, fat people, and so on and so on.
People act in a way they feel and not what Jesus would do.
I don't identify with the LGBTQ community, however removing people for "sin" the church will be nearly empty.
It’s crazy that’s the only comment I seen that someone is telling the truth wow
Practicing homosexuality is not loving God. That is the opposite of loving God.
You are very confused and yes, You must run to God because HE DOES LOVE YOU! HE DOESN'T LOVE SIN! I pray Jehovah that you will deliver, heal and set this young man free of all the things that have him bound, show him Your true way, YOUR TRUTH, deliver him from bitterness and allow him to feel Your love as you give him truth, understanding and the deliverance only YOU can give him in Jesus Christ name I pray Thank You Jehovah, Amen🙏🌟
God views are what they are about sexual sins. Wether. Adulrry, fornicating, be lesbian, bisexual, gay or what ever. It falls in the category of immorality. The condemnation comes from not walking in the spirit. It’s not that the church doesn’t love you it is the sin that is not loved because God hates sin!!
We all should be preparing ouselves for our eternal life.Choose ye this day who you are going to serve.
I'm sorry for what happened to you and that's got to be devastating but I do have this to say I once was gay and i learned that God is love and he does want us to love our neighbors like we would ourselves but I also learned that God is holy heaven is holy witch mean that there are know sin in heaven and there are many of sins that God don't approve of and being gay is one of them when you get saved meaning get baptized repenting of your sins allowing God in your heart as your Lord and Savior you are a new creation in Christ the old you is no more so through him you began to live the way he want you to live. Now I'm not siding with the church because the preacher was supposed to lead you to salvation and he didn't. But God loves you but he doesn't like the sin so I hope this message can help you God bless .
Once gay and STILL gay.
I have read some of the comments please disregard the judgmental women that are commenting on your page. Because they are ignoring what the Bible says about wearing makeup, having that hair process, wearing mixed fabrics, and having a bunch of bad ass children out of wedlock. So ignore what some of these women are saying.
We need to listen to what God says. If God says it's a sin, it's a sin. Comparing my sin to others sin doesn't help me, it deceives me to believing I'm okay when God says otherwise.
There was Brenda, Latisha, Linda, Felicia
Dawn, LeShaun, Ines and Alicia
Teresa, Monica, Sharon, Nick
Lisa, Veronica, Karen, Vicky
Cookie, well, I met her in a ice cream parlor
Tonya, Diane, Lori, and Carla
Marina, Selena, Katrina, Sabrina
About three Kims, LaToya and Tina
Shelley, Bridget, Cathy, Rasheeda
Kelly, Nicole, Angel, Juanita
Stacy, Tracie, Rohna and Ronda
Donna, Yolanda, Tawana, and Wanda
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If you are gay & proud, you should have been fired in that role because that lifestyle is an abomination to YAH, the Most High. It’s not what He created but what Satan created. If you are a truly repentant gay man, then they should still have let you go as a church rep. until a time Jesus delivers you. It’s not about what “the church believes.” It’s about what does GOD SAY. Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:27, 1 Corinthians 6:9. Furthermore, you should not be allowed to cause others especially children who watch and imitate what they see to stumble Matthew 18:6 You need to repent with everything in you. 2 Chronicles 7:14 ALL sinners need to REPENT. Ask God to help you and He will if you are really ready to be healed. Psalm 51🙏🏽 Stay in the Word and crying out to God and He will wash you.
As a member of FBCG, I find this interesting but not surprising.
I wonder why you were allowed to serve as a leader this long, since this is Pastor Jenkins’ philosophy to not allow those not living accordingly to serve as a leader.
Best wishes as you search for a new church family. I’m seeing a few welcomes from Alfred Street Baptist. I’ve visited there (and enjoyed it) but never researched the philosophy. Maybe that’s a good place to start.
God loves you unconditionally. This hurts and I can't believe this happened in the church. I am so thankful that you are doing well and I am praying for you. God bless you 🙏🏾❤️
Dr. Wesley will welcome you with an open heart!!!! #AlfredStreetBaptistChurch
Wow! Will he really? Where is the fear of a holy and righteous God??
Sounds like you think that you have a Heaven or Hell to put someone in...LOL. Newsflash...you do not!
Should be open to attend but not to serve if he practices sin.
Matthew 7 says wide is the gate that leads to hell, many will find it. Narrow is the path of righteousness, few will find it. I guess you just told us which path is at Alfred Street if you accept the homosexual lifestyle. Read Romans 1
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I’m so sorry that this happened to you. Don’t allow what happened to stop you from believing in God and worshiping Him. You can be gay & a Christian. God want you to come to Him in Spirit & in Truth so come as you are. Seek Him to find a church that will allow you to be your full self there but don’t lose faith. Even when those who say they’re Christian’s try to use the Bible as a weapon, stand fast in your faith. That same Bible has something that’s condemning them too, so let them know that they can go sit down somewhere. Be encouraged, learn from this and don’t lose hope & don’t lose faith. God’s got you and you got my prayers & support.
NO.
You cannot be unrepentant SINNER.
@@BeginAgainMC what you cannot do is interject on anyone and their relationship with God. Focus on making sure YOU don’t go to hell before you worry about anyone else. Stay in your lane.
@@glamslamcam you are encouraging someone to “be their full self” which is anti (AGAINST) what the Holy Scriptures teach. You are encouraging a life of sin and you will be held accountable - you should consider that. Responses on youtube are temporary- we have to give an account for our lives. I am consistently in REPENTANCE.
You cannot be a Christian and gay too! The Bible speaks on homosexuality. God made women for man not man and man and women and women! Jenkins don’t judge anyone he goes based on the Bible and gods word! You cannot teach kids and you are not practing the Bible
It is interesting reading all this commentary. It’s like the Civil War all over again. However, one fact that was not necessarily called out was if the liars, fornicators, non-tithe payers, and jealous folk were fired as well. If the church is a hospital where everyone is sin sick, he can’t be the only one that is in need of blood of Jesus each and every day. I’d love for all the Holy Ghost filled saints that took pride and joy in posting scriptures related to his sin to repost the scriptures that condemn theirs. (Crickets). In so many ways his story is courageous like Joshua, vulnerable like Job, and expressive like David. Homosexuals that choose to have the boldness to seek Christ often exude far more integrity than those that simply live to embarrass and fear monger others. Who really won here? Is it the kids that lost a loving teacher? A church member with a broken heart? Or a ministry that is blasted on social media? No! It’s Satan. For the price of some Administrative person at the church keeping it real we have yet another mode of division in the black church. It’s actually pitiful.
Wow. Your comment is wildly unscriptural. Full of emotions tho’.
If your pastor preached against same-sex relationships, why would you remain at that church or think they would be ok with your lifestyle? By the way you made a great point about church hypocrisy.
Sending love & hugs your way. ❤ Shame on them, truly. While we know that this door closed so that another one could open for you, even brighter… I know it doesn’t stop this from being extremely painful. It is clear how much you loved this church and your work with them. It’s all very disappointing.
Shame for what!?? In particular? Confronting SIN? Being very specific re this matter only.
Jeremy... I did not know you were so close. Im sorry to hear this. I pray for new open doors❤
You Are very deceived to think your lifestyle is good for teaching the Bible, God Word and Commandments, to youth! Face the truth. See the truth. You live against God's Word! Turn from your sin and follow God! Then you can truthfully teach God's Word. Turn! Turn!
The church did the right thing! If you can’t obey the BIBLE you are trying to teach these babies WHAT BUSINESS do you have teaching them. “If you love me keep my commandments!”
Does your comment apply in a public school setting? Certainly I don't think he was teaching elements of his personal business. If your logic is acceptable across the board, then there may be a reduction of about 60% in the teaching force of America.
What in the ACTUAL FUCK type of response is this? You are as crazy as the message you just wrote.
Are you kidding me so all these people in this church are obeying each every vers in the bible yea right...
Your quote John 14:15 convolutes what are Jesus’ commandments vs what are others. Jesus never had a commandment against the gays. However Jesus did command us to love one another as he loves us (I.e unconditionally). To not judge. And to not store up earthly treasures. I see a lot of violations of those 3 things in these comments and at FBCG.
Jesus commands us to LOVE each other. He can and has been teaching the bible. He is sharing Gods word. Church people need to listen more and judge less.
You need to read the book of Leviticus and Revelation on the topic of homosexuality .
You need to repent of your lifestyle and seek the Lord to be healed and cleansed .
Your lifestyle is not holy. You need to repent .
How can you counsel any young male child on God creating them
Male and Female and you’re with a male ?
JEREMY there are many congregations that are waiting for the love and compassion that you have. Unfortunately not many of them will be black congregations. As the black church many, due to the long history of trauma that we still circulate, many will still handle you in this manner. Be gay, just dont show it or post about it......Oh but please keep writing hispel songs that the people fall put too, sing us under the rug, preach us under the table, etc....... MY GOD, were the worst. 15 years!!!!! What changed? Many black churches use people until they have no more use of you. Find a healthy GODLY and God Like community JEREMY because that wasnt it
I commend Pastor Jenkins and the leadership team for sticking to biblical standards. Its unfortunate that this young man feels this but the church cannot change the Bible and its principles for people who follow their own truth.
Hey brother, I am trying to understand the reason for your video. You have said that God made you this way which some don't agree with because it contradicts His word in "free choice." If you are searching for the truth of where God stands on this topic take a look at Lev. 18. Could it be that God is calling you to a place of correction? No shade, but you seem as if you surprise about the church response to your lifestyle, but you have known this for years and have continued to attend......Why? My prayer is that you dig into the Word of God and find the TRUTH and believe it.
Amen, 👏🏾👏🏾for Pastor, how U gonna teach something U don't believe or follow or even B convicted when constantly hearing the truth. I'm not an actual member, but listen every Sunday, & thru out the week Pastor did no wrong 👏🏾🙏🏾
Amen
Why people think that the Word of God should be compromised because someone loves to teach, loves children, etc is sooo crazy! I'd love to hear him explain to my little boy what sodomy is....God loves you, but hates your sin. No way you would be " teaching" my kid....have your own and teach them( my bad...you can't can you)
“…THE HOLY SPIRIT ‘ WILL LEAD’ us to ALL TRUTH….” That’s the “ONLY” way, NOT MAN’S!
You are loved. Thank you for sharing. You are a gift to others. I’m excited for you to find your path forward in sharing your gifts and talents 💜💙🩵💚💛🧡❤️
"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them." (Romans 16:17)
I’m so sorry this happened to you my friend! I’m also very proud of you for sharing your story and your example of resilience through all of this. You are absolutely correct, it’s not God, it’s man… God loves you just as you were born! ❤ I am certain that you have done way more for God’s Kingdom in the past 15 years than many church members thrice your age… God is the ultimate decision maker, and He’s not through with you yet! 🙏🏾
LIES.
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
The leaders didn’t see that spirit on you from in the beginning? Many leaders will not allow you in leadership in a whole gay relationship
As a member…
I considered… that just seeing a spirit on someone is not ENOUGH to remove them because it is not acted upon.
If???
They found out that he was in a full blown homosexual relationship.
And teaching children.
And he is not crying out in REPENTANCE about his sin.
@@BeginAgainMC You’re just as lost! If the leader had the Holy Ghost the dude should’ve never been hired! No one in leadership picked it up? The Holy Ghost is a revealer! No parent saw this either? Girl bye
@@tc3354 we have a ministry for those struggling with homosexuality (ALL THINGS NEW). The point is proven that ANYONE can attend any church - the church is not in the practice of kicking anyone out of a church. This is where we walk with other BELIEVERS, confess our sins, pray for one another etc. A pastor that was caught in a sexual sin was RESTORED in our church according to the teaching in Galatians. It was addressed. No one goes down aisles and yoked people up re sin. HOWEVER IN LEADERSHIP AND ESPECIALLY OVER CHILDREN THERE IS A STANDARD. Have a good day to you too.
@@yvetterenee8256 try the spirit by the spirit! Y’all just saying stuff at this point
@@BeginAgainMC, I agree. Not all guys who seem effiminate are having relationships with men.
I think youre looking compassion instead of conviction. Satan tells us in sin we're doing nothing wrong and its ok. Its the holy spirit that convicts us. 🙏✝️
My heart goes out to you friend... Love you!
It's man and women not man and man SIR
God wants you to obey him and submit to his word. He loves you, but he hates the sin. I pray that you choose him over your lifestyle. Choose him over your own desire. This is not about the pastor. This is about your relationship with Christ. The enemy wants you to think it's about the pastor and get you caught up and focus on the wrong thing. God wants obedience from you. Even the prophet Nathan had to correct David with his sin. Read the word and take the correct.
According to the Bible it is an abomination the Bible said it
I don't think you're being honest with yourself. I know you're hurt; but you know Pastor John K Jenkins would ask another person in leadership to have a seat if he/she was online promoting sex work (for example) or online robbing banks and just saying they love God, though and they were just born a thief or sex work is work. No, we all have to adjust spiritually to align ourselves with God's design for us in accordance with his word.
If you are questioning God, you never knew Him!! I am so pleased that Pastor Jenkins stands on the WORD OF GOD!! We don't Hate the person, we HATE the SIN!! God doesn't make mistakes!! He created you a man period!! Praise God you are not teaching our children in the church. AGAIN, STOP TWISTING WHAT GOD'S WORD IS! NO ONE IS ABUSING YOU.
Bible says it’s easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to see the Kingdom of God. That’s a mighty wealthy church with a mighty wealthy pastor. How are they standing on THAT word?
What about others in church sinning?
I am so sorry that this happened to you. One of the many things I love about you is your faith. Don’t turn your back on God because God didn’t kick you out of ministry. The pastor did. Although pastors should be held to a higher standard, they are still only human so they will make mistakes. So we can’t be too shocked when things like this happen. I don’t want to minimize what you’re going through, but I also don’t want you to stress too much about it. I definitely don’t want it to affect your faith. Because your solution seems difficult, but is relatively simple. Find another church that accepts you for who you are. Also, know that you are still a child of The Most High God and there are big plans in the works for you. Who knows? Those plans may be even bigger than teaching Sunday School 😉
Love you!!!! ❤
The solution is to repent from your sin. It's not about the pastor, it's about God's Word.
Romans 1:18-26 reads as follows:
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
It's easy to see that you are out of alignment with the Word of God in this area. This is spiritual warfare and we are all involved in the fight. We all need to examine ourselves and repent when we see that we are not following His Word.
We should walk in love and treat each other as we want to be treated...that's why I attend the church I do...
I attended Mt. Ennon Baptist Church in Clinton prior to relocating. They would love to have you and your gifts.
God still loves you regardless who you are love my. Brother
Hey Jeremy I’m praying for your strength and courage during this time and for God to continue hold your heart and for your to still seek God during this time! Do not be defeated!! Keep your head held high and walk into your victory because this is just setting you up for your next level! Increase Jesus!!
You were not in a “tickle your ears” church. The word of God is true and will stand forever. You can’t mix what is holy with what is profane. Pray and truly search the Word. All will be revealed if you are truly seeking.
Hugs and love to you! That church didn't deserve you! I hope you go somewhere with loving and accepting people. You seem like an amazing person and I know things will work out for you!
So this church isn't loving or accepting because he can't serve as a professed homosexuality. The world doesn't know what love is. Love is correction. Love is discipline. They had to have that conversation because they love him. So at the end and God tells him depart will God not be loving him. God loves us but that doesn't mean he doesn't do things that may seem to hurt us in the moment for us to be better
This wasn’t a God thing this was a man thing who has their feelings about gay men and woman. God is so much bigger than this.
@TeAireGriffin this is why church is so problematic. They only want to harp on people who are living their lives out loud BUT....when the pastor has impregnated the choir director, cheated on his wife, misused the building funds NO ONE SAYS A WORD. Churches have selective amnesia...they love to suck a person's talent dry then release them. Maybe the church needs a serious revamp. I was a church goer in my youth but in this past decade I'm not. I don't need to be judged by a lot of hypocritical people.
I’m so sorry! After all those years, that’s just heartbreaking