Meyer Lansy & Nucky Thompson go into business - Boardwalk Empire Season 4
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- My favourite moment of the season so far, Rothstein has just had an abnormally bad night at the poker table putting his and Nucky's business relationship at risk. Meyer spots this opportunity and tells Nucky why he should go into business not with 'AR' but himself.
Also, the history with the Luciano story is slightly off in this scene imo. Charlie has said in his book that he used to protect little gangs, like Meyer's, from other bigger kid gangs. When Luciano proposed to protect Lansky he refused his help, that's why Charlie asked him to join, he had admiration for the little Jew kid refusing help (that he clearly needed) out of pride.
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This show ended too soon. The casting of Capone, Lansky and Lucky were the best castings of their characters ever.
Can't forget AR as well dude killed it.
I always thought they should have changed but continued the show with Al Capone, Lucky and Meyer.
Yea we needed a bugs moran storyline
Lucky was my favorite character just ahead of Chalky.
Watch more films. The representation of Meyer was excellent. There have been better Luckys and Capones.
It’s the “they took my money” line that makes the scene. Even though he’s talking w Nucky and trying to make the biggest deal of his life, that memory takes Meyer out of the whole situation for just a split second as it flashes through his head and you can tell he was determined to never let it happen again.
Because $ is their god!
@@jillconner5062 🤣
They really took his lunch money in real life.
He relived that memory by retelling it. And he got angry all over again.
I love how he doubles the “done” like that shit was already packed and ready to go
Would have been hilarious had Meyer said: "Done it's in the car in a bag large bills."
@@RichWeigel would have been bad writing
When you live in an age where you can watch the Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire basically side to side, you know for entertainment times are good.
I'll add The Wire
@@aleksandargrum the holy trinity
add "band of brothers" and "billions" o the list........i couldn't agree more with what you said.
@@aleksandargrum And The Shield!
Todays entertainment is breath taking but because of it we are all worse.
Meyer was the most calculated of them all.
3:01 That smile. He knew not to look too excited and stopped and then finally smiled at ease after.
Nice catch.
You can so tell in this clip that Meyer is a man destined for greatness.
Until he died from cancer from smoking, but you have a point.
@@russellsales7796 yeah, when he was in his eighties
@@russellsales7796 You are broke and mad that sucks
Cubans worship him. I mean, Cubans from Miami. LOL!
A Varsity player without a doubt
Definitely one of my favorite scenes. We already know Lansky's a clever guy, clearly smarter than Luciano, but we rarely get a look at what sort of a man he really is, because he's always busy manipulating people and thinking up the next plan. He's easily one of the best characters on Boardwalk, and it's a pity we don't get more of him.
Beevenhouse my favourite character for sure.
Thats the type of man he is careful and calculated. Pay attention and you will see what type of man he is in the series
Idk why but the way he talks sounds like he's the most sleezy yet most gangster and calculated man on earth.
Lansky didn't have a lot of the flaws most people in the criminal trade had, on top of that he had a good mind for business and was reasonable enough to play everyone against or with each other as the need arose.
In the end, he was one of the very few people in that line of work, at that level, to not only emerge unscathed and un-imprisoned, but to stay comfortably in the game long enough to do the impossible: retire and live out the rest of his life wealthy and respected in the community.
LabTech he wasn't wealthy. He died broke in 1980s with less than 100,000 dollars to his name.
When Lansky talked about the beating he took from Luciano and his gang, it's clear that he was more upset about loosing his money.
The moment when Meyer and Charlie moved from small-timers to the big leagues.
They were never really small time they always had alot of money they just made connections later down the road but even as youths they always walked around with plenty of money especially meyer
I swear there is something profoundly beautiful about how Anatol Yusef told that story about Meyer's story meeting Charlie!!! Masterful delivery.
"We're bigger than US Steel"
muahahahahaha
They would be like ten years plus later
This scene was brilliantly filmed. 1:35-2:40 the way the camera gradually homes in on Meyer ever so slowly is incredible.
It's brilliant because I didn't notice it. I didn't notice it because the focus of my attention was growing on Meyer. The focus of my attention was growing on Meyer because.......chicken and the egg, eh?
Then you contrast this with the scene of Darmody being asked the same question by Rothstein. Whereas Meyer gave an account that clearly identified the person that he is/was, James just started naming things he had done/was; father, soldier, bla bla bla. And that's when Rothstein knew he couldn't take Darmody seriously, at least at that point.
But unlike Rothstein Nucky stopped and corrected Meyer when he started off with a wrong answer
That story of Lanksy and Lucianos first meeting is the stuff of underworld legend. Mind you, there seems to be a few different versions going round of how they met.
Google it. Imo the one in this clip appears to be the right one.
I remember it like it was yesterday.
I heard they met at a Starbucks, but I might be wrong.
Miami 808 maybe it was next to an acai store
LOL nice one!
I love how this juxtaposes Jimmy’s “Who are You?” answer.
It does, only realised that after rewatching the series. However, rothstein didn't correct jimmy like nucky did Meyer. At first, Meyer was gonna talk about what himself and Luciano have done, as partners. That's not the answer Nucky was looking for, he wanted to know Meyer on his own. I hope I'm making sense haha
@@cassidyhankinson8582 yup
They actually both start by saying they are businessmen... Jimmy then goes on to discuss his personal life and is thrown by ARs joke and AR doesn't give him a chance to give real insight. Meyer hears the question again and realizes Nucky wants to hear a story that displays his character and to impress him, not just a run of the mill overview of himself
@@SankofaNYC I think the difference was that AR had already made up his mind about Jimmy before their meeting. Jimmy's problem was that he didn't know himself. AR rightly saw that he was a soldier pretending to be a businessman.
AR never corrected Jimmy. Nucky corrected Meyer
“And they took my money...😑” he still was still hurt about that change 😂
It was chicken finger day in the school cafeteria!
I was an immigrant and fled a war. I didn't know the language and my parents somehow got me to school. Despite my age I knew how difficult it was for them to do that. I was bullied daily, the teacher knew I was different and let it happen and my grades sucked, soI hated everyone there. Then one day I saw there was board of the top students and there was one of my bullies on it, number 1. The next year, I studied so hard that I became third best at my age bracket, the bully was still number 1. My bullying increased as a result of it. The next year, I studied even harder and I finally saw myself at first place and my bully second place. That day was my proudest moment of all.
Eventually I moved to another country and became happier. Happier but soft. It's good to remember sometimes.
If you want proof how good he is in this role. There are two scenes in two different episodes where Meyer is put in a near-death situation. Those of us watching already know Meyer lived a very long life and know instinctively that Meyer will survive each. but his expression and his fear makes us worry that they may cheat and place Meyer in an early (alternative universe) grave. If season 5 becomes the Fall (or unsure future) of Nucky, and the certain fall of Capone, it will certainly be the Rise of Luciano and Lansky.
Nucky Johnson died of old age in history, so we don't know that at all.
@@Scyllax He died at an early age here. Tommy gave him the Jimmy Treatment.
@@Scyllax Nucky Thompson isn't Nucky Johnson. That was the reason they changed the last name so they could have creative freedom over the character.
I can't wait til season 5
joe fortino 🤣
3:14 A handshake from Meyer Lansky was better than any contract you could write,... or so it was said.
Don Capoeira Is that so? I think he was trying to get Nucky killed shortly after this.
+Mercurywheeler True lol
+Mercurywheeler Alhough not Meyer concretely (Torrio behind it)
This handshake and attempting to get nucky killed were two different things.
You hrard that in his documentary hahahahah god stuff bro
From Luciano's account in his book, Meyer always had his head in a book learning about business & economics, He'd always tell Luciano to read more, and even though Luciano was The Boss, Meyer always wanted something of his own. Which only happened when Lucky was sent to jail, then Meyer had begun to slowly outwit him. Real sour end to their relationship in real life. Interested to see how it pans out in the show.
That pretty crazy. Everybody just assumes Meyer and Lucky were BFFs but Meyer betrayed him
Because Luciano had no real power after that final deportation from Cuba. Lansky always played the odds for survival.
I was not aware that Luciano wrote a book...l
In actuality Meyer was in the Meyer and Bugs Gang as the leader. He was wise enough to merge with Luciano in the 20s and eventually form the Syndicate on the early 30s. The rest is history.
Take everything from The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano with a grain of salt. Interesting read but even when it was first released it's authenticity was disputed.
LOVE this show.. especially love seeing Anatol portray Meyer...
Favourite episode of the season, this scene along with Capone going apeshit with the Tommy gun are my favourite two scenes of this season.
The amount of time it must take to get all this correct is unreal. Every car, house, suit made to period. Expensive as hell. I’d hate to have to destroy this set when they were done filming. It would feel like a sin.
hurricane sandy destroyed it
Scenes like these show you exactly why Meyer lasted as long as he did in the world of crime
2 of the great business men that even lived Lucky and Meyer. That smile is worth $300 million.
"And that man was none other than Albert Einstein"
2:38 This moment, when Nucky look down...
It was the moment when Nucky realized who he was in front of... Not in front of Meyer, an ordinary young man. No. He was in front of a bunch of friends who have always known each other. A band of friends that complements each other. They know all the force and weakness of the other. Unlike Nucky, who cannot count on anyone and who is in fact, all alone.
Nucky understood how weak he was compared to Meyer and Salvatore/Charlie.
It's my interpretation of this scene.
I feel like Nucky wouldn't do good with having friends like that. He's greedy, and always backstabs a partner if it gains him more power. You can see the way he treats his brother, always patronising him and putting him down not lifting him up. With Nucky it's always about him, what he built, no one else is allowed to be a part of it because he wants it all. Contrast that with Al Capone in this series, who treats his brothers with respect. Always respecting their boundaries, always putting them first before his greed for power. Nucky was destined to fall, he never care about who he made enemies with, he never cared when he blatantly takes advantage of people in front of their face. You can see the respect people have for Nucky diminishes from Season 1 to 5. With the happy dinner they had where all the bosses met, to a gradual increase in distrust to the eventual war that got Nucky killed. Nucky had no allies in the end because he backstabbed all his allies until there was no one left to defend for him.
@@MrTVx99 I’ve met so many upper middle class kids that act like Nucky’s character. They become successful, but can only sustain surface level relationships because they lack restraint and screw people over if push comes to shove. They’re always codependent towards women for some reason and never follow bro code, so they end up alone. They do these things yet act self-righteous and pompous about it when confronted, usually due to the consequences of their selfishness/hedonism when it starts to interfere with other interpersonal relationships. Jimmy had that same pompousness about him and I couldn’t stand it.
Buscemi just rules every frame. Nicely done.
I agree Billy, the way Meyer looks at the guy after he makes the deal with Nucky tells you he had every intention of stealing it from that guy.
In real life Meyer was much more intimidating just by his presence.. he never kowtoed to anyone.. but he grabbed the entire gambling empire purely by his scheming and manipulation of the people around him... he may have been small, but he was a giant in the underworld... he was a gambler who played a game he couldn’t lose...
AR asked Jimmy a similar question. His answer wasn't as willfully strong as Meyers. That's why Darmody didn't succeed while Meyer did.
Actually Meyer started off by giving the wrong answer like Jimmy but Nucky corrected Meyer unlike Rothstein who just let Jimmy carry on lol. People act like Jimmy was stupid but he was very bright just messed up in the head.
It also helped that Meyer became one of the heads of the commission in reality so they had to have him coming out on top.
Ar didn't trust Jimmy because he thought he was taking over knucky business underhanded and wasn't trustworthy
One of the best scenes in the whole of season 4, even with Harrows death!
The dialogue in this series was extraordinary. I would typically watch/listen to each episode multiple times/rewind to make sure I didn’t miss a word
Easily one of my favorite scenes in the entire series
2:40 see how nuckys man readies himself the moment meyer stepped closer to him
From what read about Lansky for awhile was that when he was young he would stand up for himself with Benny some times protecting him when they were young. Its when he started getting older that's when started to use his brains more. Lansky had the brains. Luciano had the ambition, Siegel had the Ruthlessness, and Frank Costello had the worriness
I like how nucky smokes his cigarette like a joint
If Lansky had been an honest man he could have been the President of any major corporation in America.
If he was honest he would've been poor.
Nah he weren't born into that club😅
Now who’s being naïve, Kay?
3:26
"i think im going to beat that guys ass"
Just like the modern business world. When someone above you is down, swoop in for the kill. Lansky was the REAL gangster out of all of them.
Nucky Thompson best character in the series but Meyer Lansky, Luciano and Capone where right behind him. The wild card being Chalky White.
The Duke of Suffolk Jimmy
@@celticjay2306 Yes of course and Arnold Rothstein
I always liked it in the show how Meyer would escape what it seemed to be certain death by speaking softly and respectfully with those who wanted to kill him and explaining himself out of a bullet in the head, always admired his way with words.
Beautiful writing, acting and direction!
Mr. Lansky was a smart and intelligent man who kept a very low profile a man I respect
I didn't know who lansky was when I was watching this show. I thought he was a made up character like jimmy darmody and was having good luck lasting in the show as long as he did. Ended up being probably the most successful mobster in history.
I think it was 1967 his worth was estimated at 300 million which would be just over 2 billion and when he died he was only worth “59k” I put that in quotations for reasons you could probably understand
The guy who plays lansky in this show does a great job all the way through but this moment especially
the most underrated story of all times
Meyer was sharp. He was also very likable. He and Charlie did great things.
Absolutely criminal these two didn’t get their own spin-off. And this is why Hollywood and TV are dying. They just don’t get it.
They ended this show too soon. I would have loved to see the death of AR, the attempt on Luciano, the upcoming of Capone. They skipped a lot of years and then didn't show much of Luciano. And they killed off Miller too fast.
Agreed, not to mention the fact they missed a GOLDEN opportunity for a sequel starring Luciano and Lansky-the rise of the Mafia and birth of the Commission, Luciano's deal with the US Navy and his deportation, the Appalachian Meeting and so on-it could've been up there with this and The Sopranos tbh, especially if they retained some of the higher ups (i.e. director/writers etc).
They still could, the actors habe aged just enough for it to be great
I really hope we see more Bugsy Siegel. We saw a spark last season, and he's too important to the story of the rise of the commission
Shit like this is why Meyer lived to be 80 and was only arrested once for a misdemeanor gambling charge in his entire life
I always loved this scene because it reminds me of the scene in Season 2 between Rothstein & Jimmy when Rothstein asked Jimmy the same question & you see the difference between Jimmy failing & Meyer succeeding in answering the same question.
One of the best scenes in boardwalk
I'd also love if they added in Bugsy's desire to kill Goebbels and Goring.
it's a little late after 5 years,but he never could of done that. nazis are a little big and no one knew those names till at least 1934 or so,and who needs those shitheads as part of a storyline about bootlegging.
@Отоја Јамагучи that is true. They couldnt be touched
@Отоја Јамагучи ostoja jamaguci za tuki me povuci
Nucky and Arnold ask the same question to James and Myer, “What kind of man are you? Who are you?” This is the kind of question interviewers and businessmen ask, knowing what kind of man they are investing in.
He still can't talk about himself without talking about Charlie.
They both owe their success to each other
Love how they are pushing Meyer's character in this show
Would have been great if they shifted focus completely to Meyer Luciano. Last seasons they had the stronger characters and more to tell.
For GODFATHER fans, this is the future "Hyman Roth".
This was one of my favorite scenes this season.
Anyone notice the season has been good without Margaret in it?
I love when pressed to tell who he was as a man, the actor kicked in the Yiddish twang to his English revealing who he was with that alone. Amazing writing and acting.
Okay, but why is Meyer still supporting cast and not main yet?
I havent started watching season 4 yet but after the series ends I hope they do a spin off with Lansky, Luciano, Capone etc.
madhash83 I actually kinda wonder how they're gonna handle the last season, because the show's gonna end before we get to the events that really propelled those guys to infamy. Hell, Rothstein doesn't even die for another three years at the point we're in in the show right now.
SickSilckMan
Right, that's why I'm wondering if they will start another show starring those guys.
Because we still need to focus on the deep conflicts of Willie Thompson, and his poop-execution of a classmate. Isn't that far more exciting than watching Meyer Lansky, Al Capone, and Charlie Luciano rise in the crime racket? Please, more of Eli and his f-cking family!
SickSilckMan WHAT? Season 5 is the FINAL season? I've been waiting all this time to see the real gangsters get the focus. If it ends in season 5 then I'm with madhash83, they fuck well BETTER make a spinoff about those guys!
The presidential salary in the 1920s was $75,000.
Effective Year
Salary Amount
1789
$25,000
1873
$50,000
1909
$75,000
1949
$100,000
1969
$200,000
2001
$400,000
I do like that scene, when you drop $500,000.00 and smile. That confidence.
'I think it maybe best if people dont see you like this"
The look Rothstein gives Lansky "Who the fuck are you to tell me......maybe you are right"
Go head on with ya bad self Meyer:)
Ohhhhjh! look at that. Tony B moving up in the world. All dressed up, making deals.
Its Tony egg not Tony B
Meyer proved to be the best tactician in the whole series.
Meyer so ADORABLE. His little accent! And that just makes his wits and badassedry more awesome.
For pete's sake, can we PLEASE see more of Meyer, Lucky, Benny, and Al Capone in the next Season? With this now being 1925, it's time to focus on the rise of the big-name gangsters.
So help me, if they give ANOTHER pointless sublot to that sulky prick Eli, and his snot-nosed son Willie Respect-Me-Or-I'll-Kill-You-With-Your-Own-Poop Thompson, I'm gonna make an appeal to my local Don to have the writers "taken care of."
We need more Meyer and Charlie. I ship them hard
We needed more of all the historical gangsters, as well as just the actual MAIN CHARACTERS of the show, like Nucky and Margaret and Chalky. There was absolutely zero reason to suddenly start giving major subplots to props like Eddie Kessler, or Eli, or Eli's shit-waffle son.
"ADORABLE" you'd be 'playing cards' with him if you told him that to his face.
You can tell he had the making of a varsity athlete.
I know exactly what he means when he speaks of his father. My father was the same way and I silently hated him for it. Lazy and satisfied with the bare minimum.
"Tell me about yourself"
"Well me and Charlie..."
"No, tell me about you, what kind of man you are"
"...and that's how I met Charlie"
...?
it's amazing you missed the part of the story that showed him to be tough and resilient despite being weak and outnumbered, and walked out with "sO tHaTs hOw hE mEt LuCkY :O"
@@El6Magico6Arlequin6 That's a great point, I didn't think of it like that.
It's not that he was talking about himself and Charlie. It's that he started talking business, not about who he is as a person. Nucky wasn't interested in the connections the guy has or how many deals he's made. He wants to know about his character.
The sad part is Nucky gives Mayer trust and respect, and by the end Mayer tries to kill him
If i was Nucky right then i would have thought to myself "Pfew good thing i did not execute him with those other 2 goons." xD
never bought Donny as a gangster
Anatol Yusef is one hell of a fine actor. His portrayal of Lansky was very enjoyable, especially that accent. Fine performance!
Don’t go into business with that animal Blundetto!
That story Meyer told is gangster legend these days
Kiedy problem jest taki ze durnota zywiona durnotą durnieje jeszcze bardziej.
Z pozoru to nie mozliwe ale w praktyce nawet historia pokazuje, ze nie tylko mozliwe ale jeszcze rosnie geometrycznie.
Kule sniegowe sie chowaja.
A.R. asked somebody else the same thing
Next Scene: "Meyer kills Michael De Santa for $500,000"
lol yeah I was shook seeing Ned Luke in this. 😂
@@pumpkin6429 Shit, at one of my old jobs he was a regular customer.
Cant wait til COVID sip is done so i can get a haircut like this!!!
Lansky: 🗣 Will your terms of your proposal be the same?
Nucky: 🗣 For Wh?
Lansky: 🗣 For Me
Lol love the ambition of Lansky here
I feel like making more money than the president wasn’t too hard a feet for bootleggers, numbers runners, and drug dealers
Meyer Lansky is tht dude but he look like he can play on Big Bang Theory
Looks real clean cut.
one of my favourite scenes in the whole show
“He couldn’t fucking sell i…oh wait, he did”
Read the history of this era and the developing rise of the "Mob" during Prohibition. This show portrays the lives and events related to Al Capone, Mayer Lansky, Lucky Lucciano and other known figures with surprising accuracy and attention to documented history.
Prob my fav lansky scene in the whole series which is saying a lot
Meyer is one of the men who would give Tommy Shelby a run for his money and the best part is that, unlike the latter, he was the real person.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
The truth is Lansky and Luciano met while taking the same finger painting class .
In blood
I think it was 1967 his worth was estimated at 300 million which today would be just over 2 billion and when he died he was only worth “59k” I put that in quotations for reasons you could probably understand
I used to think that the Sopranos was the best show of all time but, boardwalk is 1b. Incredible show with so many good characters.
Historically Luciano was a real baws you know, one of the greatest of all the gangsters. I was suprised the writers decided to use the REAL names from NY tbh, limits their creativity. Luciano in Boardwalk isn't really reflecting the Luciano that lived imo. AR has been played out to be more than he was too.
AR was waaaay over played out in this. Agree completely
@@el34glo59 Made for a good story though.
You cut out the scene where Maaayaaah beats the shite out of Michael from GTA 5
Aka one of the semi-regular customers at my old job. It was hysterical when I first heard about it, and then when the guy came in. One of the staff was like, "cool shirt" cause he was wearing a GTA5 shirt. He was like "Who was your favorite character." Kid says Trevor, and I start laughing, he's like why you're laughing? I tell him it was a trick question. Then the staff member realized who he's talking to when Ned Luke starts talking more.
I was wondering the whole season why bugsy didnt show up
I wish they did a spinoff and just continued following Charli and Meyer and sending Benny to Vegas and all of that good stuff all the way to Anastasia’s assassination