Boring & Facing Head, Part 1...
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- Gday, In this video I make a start on building a Boring and Facing Head that has been designed by a viewer, If all goes well the plans may become available, I have also install a Sino DRO to the milling machine, Below is a link to Digitech Direct...
Digitech Direct - digitechdirect.com.au/
Email - matysworkshop76@gmail.com - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Matty- fer crikeys sake, ain’t no need to apologize for anything that you do, or don’t do! You are providing a valuable service and seem to be a right nice guy, if we didn’t like what you are serving us we would go elsewhere for the machinist fix. I am always happy to see another of your exploits, have only so much time and you help fill it with great content. Yer a bloke that I would be proud to sip a pint or six with 😂. More chips and less self criticism 😮. 😊 yer doing great 😊
Thanks mate
Good on you mate. One of my favorite things to watch on TH-cam is shop made tools. Thanks heaps.
Gday, Great top hear your enjoying the build mate, Appreciate your watching, cheers
This will be a really challenging project. You've got it. Cheers Matty.
Gday Robert, it’s certainly going to be a learning curve from start to finish, I will make a few mistakes but that’s all part of the fun, appreciate you watching mate, cheers
Minor rectifiable stuff ups don't count Matty, at least it didn't consign the part to the "Box of Shame" 😉 A very nice job you've done so far. 👍Having plans to build something is sheer luxury, I started on a very ambitious project when I got back from up country a week or so ago and the whole thing is coming out of my head, so it's going to be subject to all sorts of stuff ups if I'm not careful. 🤪
Gday, I think there will be a few stuff ups in the build but thats all part of learning mate, I'll have to check out what your building to, Thanks for watching, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop Part 1 tomorrow.
One thing I noticed is that the bolts appear to be the only thing preventing the arbor from turning in the head. Usually bolt holes aren't a tight fit like a dowel pin would be. If the head is designed to only turn in one direction it may not matter. Boring and facing heads are often used on interrupted cuts so any horizontal play on the bolts might show up as chatter. Maybe the bolts were included with the arbor and are a tight fit like a dowel pin. It is just something I thought was worth mentioning.
Here's a tip for measuring the counter bore: since you reamed the central bore to 10mm, put a 10mm pin in there and use the insert tip on the boring bar to touch off on the pin and the edge of the counter bore to measure size using the DRO.
New milling Machine, looks like it’s a good unit.
So far I’m really impressed with this mill
interesting build Matty👍👍👍👍
a lot of work, see you on next part
regards
Kev
Gday Kev, definitely lots involved mate but very enjoyable, appreciate you watching mate
G’day Matty. Good to see you back. I was so lost for something to watch last week I was forced to go and watch some hacksawing video 😂 Nice job on this piece of the boring head looking forward to seeing the project progress. Keep it coming
Gday, I felt bad I didn't have video out last week but the DRO had to be done and I wasn't keen on filming that, I hope you enjoyed the hacksaw action mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers
This is great. Looking forward to part 2.
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching, cheers
Nice, i`ve just been drafting a facing head recently... `s still in plans, but this will be a nice comparison with the mental project that i have... Speaking of material, there are two materials that are just remarkable - grey cast iron and hardened toolsteel... Both offer ridiculous finishes, both offer chips that can ruin any machine in a real hurry if you don`t protect the machine properly, and both are ridiculously good choice for tooling... Now, one is butter soft and the other is demanding of high end cutters, but with material specific cutters, and appropriate machines, both are like nothing else you will come across... Sure, brass is soft and nice finishing, and bronze can be hard and nice finishing, but neither makes for a good tool, they are more of a specialty material each, so there`s that... Especially white bronze, which may as well be hardened toolsteel, except for the toughness that steel naturally has, but for some uses, white bronze is really the best - like sliding gibs and such...
Nice work! Cast iron is lovely material to work with especially for a job that size. Looks quite a substantial build, I'm looking forward to seeing how the facing feature works.
Gday Nigel, I was given this piece of cast a long time ago and been waiting for the right time to use it, cast iron is beautiful to work with, it is messy but I can handle that, appreciate you watching mate, cheers
Nice work Matty. I would have made a few more expletives in the process. Always a pleasure to watch. Take care my friend.
Gday, what happens off camera stays off camera mate😂, there certainly was a few choice words, thanks for watching
@@MattysWorkshop I hear you there buddy. One of the main reasons I don't film my projects. LOL
Commin along Matty, lookin good. Thanks for your time.
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching
No worries about multiple video projects. Looking forward to the rest. If plans become available I would be interested, but probably not so much a kit due to shipping expense to US. Also, nice job with the mill DRO. They always seem to have a surplus of cable.
Gday, if all goes well the plans will be available on there own, there’s plenty of length on the cables that’s for sure, thanks for watching mate
Great job so far Matty. Mr Bozzo visits us all now and then. Its a mistake that's soon put right. I reckon your next project will be a couple of different size " Randy Richard in the Shop " dovetail cutters. He did a couple of videos on them quite a while ago. I made small one for a job and have used it a lot since. ATB regards from the UK
Gday, I brought a new dovetail cutter that arrived today and already in the spindle, I have thought about making one but just haven't done it, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Looking forwards to the build series.
Thanks Tom, appreciate you watching mate
Hi Matty, this multi parter build will be a nice one!
Cheers 👍💪✌
Gday, Unfortunately some viewers don't like multi video builds but I cant build this in one video, Truly appreciate you watching and commenting mate, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop I thank you for putting out great content Matty.
Cheers
I’ll be eagerly waiting for the next video.
Gday, all going well the next episode will be out the same time next week, cheers
well done on the dro and doing the machining .dont worry we are all human so clangers happen
Thanks very much mate, We all make mistakes at some stage, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Ambitious project! This’ll be a fun series. 👍
Gday, certainly is mate and its going to test the skill level but thats the best way too learn, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Matty how does it feel to go from a life's job of different category to a very good machist from what I'm seeing you are and overcoming a hard sickness in anybody's life and im very glad you are doing good I enjoy your videos very much you stay well
Gday, it’s certainly been an adventure mate from the start
Very nice. . . turned out great. . Have a great weekend.
Thanks mate
Good one Matty . Just jam a couple of plugs up its ass & that will have that sorted ! The fit up of the DRO looks good . 👍👍
Thanks mate
Nice work Matty, Great start to an interesting project Cheers SteveO
Thanks mate
Nice looking part! 👏
Thanks mate
Put a very similar Sino readout on my mill. So happy with it that I got a new DRO for my Myford and decomissioned the old Heidenhain that was on it.
Gday, so far I’m very happy with the Sino DRO, thanks for watching
Nice work Matty..
Should be a nice boring head.👍
Thanks
Glad to see you're doing well mate. I'm planning to build a boring head for use in a ball turning tool for a lathe. I'm learning machining from a fantastic tool and die maker who has encouraged me to build my own tooling, so this video, and your previous build, will help me immensely on improving my machining skills. Thank you so much!
Looks like you're enjoying the new mill, Matty. I've had Sino gear on my lathe and mill axes for years, and despite it being Chinese, it's been reliable and affordable. Can't complain really. The new build looks fantastic. Cheers, Preso.
Gday Preso, I’m loving the new mill mate, thanks for watching
Hi Matty, always intrigued me how the gear train works in a facing head, guess im gonna find out!
Nice bit of machining.
Stuffed up a job this morning, had the DRO set to radius!
Gday, Shouldn't be to long and you'll see how this all works, Thanks for watching mate, cheers
have sino on both the mill and lathe Matty, top shelf for the budget for sure not a single drama.
Gday, Certainly better then the one I have on the lathe mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers
G'day Matty. From having a round piece of cast iron, with a bit of attention, its starting to take shape. Looking good so far, will be watching the series to see it finished & working.
Both my Hafco Al-356V Lathe SDS-2MS & the
Hafco HM-54GV SD2-3MS Mill both have the Sino DRO, which work really great.
Gday Ted, Its going to be an interesting build, I dont think you can go wrong with Sino gear, Thanks for watching Cheers
very nice work
Good 👍👍👍👍
Very nice work...as usual !
Thanks very much, cheers
Very nice DRO install. They are bloody difficult to get neatly tucked away on a knee mill, but the important thing is to keep them robust. I like these multi part series - looking forward to seeing this tool take shape.
Gday Stuart, fitting the knee scale was a real pain to get right and the y axis was far behind but it was worth the effort mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Looking forward to the rest of the build Matty as I'm gathering up parts to build a line borer (run off a petrol/hydraulic power pack) and a facing head would be the icing on the cake !
Gday, I've also been thinking of building a line borer but im not sure if id use it that much, id like to build one for the sake of building it, Id like to see yours when you have it built, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Beautiful!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching
That's a beautiful looking part Matty. Agree cast iron is a mucky stuff to work with, but it does give a marvellous finish, and doesn't need any lubricant. Where you drilled the 4mm holes in error, you could tap them for 2ba grub screws. As 4mm is the correct tapping drill size for 2ba. Looking forward to next part. Cheers Nobby
Gday Nobby, it’s messy stuff that for sure, I’ve made a couple of plugs for the holes now, thanks for watching mate
Very nice work, Matty! Always a pleasure watching you work!
Thanks very much mate, appreciate you watching
Hi mate .
I hope this project results in plans being made commercially available.
I’d have a go at it tor sure.
Looking good so far eh?
🤣🤣
Regards
Robert
Gday Robert, I do believe they will mate, thanks for watching, cheers
Well done mate top job
Thanks mate
Hi, Matty. Real nice work on your project and I'm looking forward to the next part of the build! Thanks for inviting us in to watch.
DROs...Can't live with them, can't live without them (at least these days).
BTW, what are the specs and dimensions on that dovetail bit you keep having to borrow?
Have a good week, mate. Cheers.
Gday, I don't think i'd like to have a go at building this without a DRO to be honest, it certainly could be done but I'd say I make a lot of mistakes, I brought a new dovetail cutter that turned up today and already in the mill being used, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers
Excellent job Matty, great video, keep'um coming..
Thanks very much mate, appreciate you watching, cheers
fantastic work..!
Thanks mate
Nice piece Matty. Looking forward to the next one!
Thanks mate, Cheers
Great job, look forward to rest of the build.
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching as always
once again mate a great start, looking forward to the next video, your skills appreciated
Gday Danny, so far so good and its going to test the skill level pretty hard, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers
I think machining cast iron is very satisfying. It cuts nicely and leaves a nice finish. But it also makes a terrible mess :)
Gday Rustinox, its certainly messy but bloody nice to machine, Thanks for watching, Cheers
G'day Matty, nicely done as ever my mate, no bozo moments and the odd little tweak, thats proper engineering there, thanks for sharing buddy
Gday Ralfy, slight modification I’m calling it, it’s going to test the skill level but that’s the only way to learn, thanks for watching mate, cheers
Nice project! Looking forward to the result , Cheers Mate !
Gday, hopefully I make a good job of it mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Nice one mate looking forward to the rest of the project
Thanks very much, Cheers
I had a similar issue with my dro on the lathe, did the same doubling/halfing thing, turns out in was for a mill!. alot of modern dro`s will do lathe/mill/grinder etc but this one didn`t it was mill only, lucky for me the guys where i got the lathe from just swopped me one out. Looking good on this project.👍
Gday, I had this one set on lathe mode, its just the way it works mate
I’ve so been looking forward to this project, thank you so very much for sharing it .
Gday, I have been keen to start it as well but wasn’t keen on starting until the DRO was fitted, appreciate you watching mate
"That's a relief."
I thought it was a dovetail? 😊
That it’s mate, thanks for watching
great content Matty, you keep well
Thanks mate,
Interesting project mate. ALB. Cheers
Gday, it’s going to get very interesting mate, hopefully I don’t screw to much up, appreciate you watching and talk soon, cheers
G'day Matty bloody hell you are so talented mate 👍
Gday, not sure about the talented part mate, I’m just winging my way through it, thanks for watching mate
Hi Matty, great job so far. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series. Regards, Dave
Gday Dave, glad your enjoying the build, hopefully I have a video each week on this build, thanks for watching
Good to hear of a reputable supplier Matty, that Hafco DRO bug is stupid.
Take your time on the build, looks to be a great project.
Thanks for sharing
Gday, I really can not fault Digitech Direct with the service I received and I will certainly have no hesitation dealing with them again, Im not very impressed the lathe DRO display thats for sure, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers
very good job Matty
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching as always
Nice practical job of fitting the DRO. Nice job on the body.
Thanks very much mate, It was a mission fitting the scales but worth there weight in gold, Thanks for watching, Cheers
I really enjoyed watching that, thanks. It looks like its going to be a fairly sizeable tool when finished.
That DRO readout on your lathe would pi$$ me off too. I wouldn't be buying from them again with customer service like that. The DRO on your mill looks to be the same as I've had on my mill for years and I'm very happy with it. I have magnetic scales though as I started with a little Sieg mill, outgrew it and moved on to my Elliott Omnimill. Magnetic scales are cheap, the readout heads on the other hand are🤑
Gday, I was fairly disappoint with the salesman's attitude to be honest and certainly won't be buying that brand again with the faults it has, It will be replaced very soon at this stage, The Boring and facing head will be a decent size when its all done, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Hi Matty. Nice job fitting the DRO. Looking forward to more of the facing head build. Cheers
Thanks very much Randy, Appreciate you watching, Cheers
Did the wife see your adept vacuuming skills in the workshop? Is so, did she march you back into the house to do the rest of the house? Mine would 😂
No I’ve got away with it so far mate thankfully
Gi-day Matty.
Hare& Forbes. Yeah yeah!!!
Yep
Hi Matty, perfect timing this is top of my list of projects I would like to have a go at, looking forward to the rest of the series looks good so far :-)
Awesome, with a bit of luck you'll be able to buy a set of plans to build this type, Thanks for watching, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop exactly my thoughts, just the plans would be great rather than shipping the metal to the UK. Hopefully this will be good advertising for him and he will get a few sales as you build the prototype.
Nice to see you back Matty machining cast not for me hate the stuff looks like the choice of D R O for the mill was right hitting the numbers real nice with a bit of coaching from you shame about the D R O on the lathe i was looking into getting one for mine i am glad i held off till i got some more feedback from you on them think i'll save up some more and look at the same as you put on the mill any way mate nice work and nothing ever stuffed up that can't be fixed with a bit of creative thinking Cheer mate
Gday, I don't mind working with cast iron, it is messy stuff, the DRO on the lathe will be coming off the lathe shortly at this stage, Send me an email, the address is in the video description, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers
Great looking part Matty. Press fit a couple of brass plugs in those holes and it will look like they belong. Can't wait to see the rest of it. Hopefully the plans will be released after you complete the project.
Gday, Thats what I decided to use was a couple of brass plugs even though they will never been seen under the arbor, If this build goes well I'd the plans will become available, Thanks for watching, Cheers
do continue the videos, they are enjoyable to watch
There’s more to come, thanks for watching
Small hiccups don't affect the part. Good to see a project 👍 Regards to all mate 👍
Gday, Im hoping there won't be to many more hiccups but with my track record there will be more, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers
This is going to be a great series of video's. Can't ait to watch them all and see the final product.
Appreciate you watching, cheers
i agree cast iron is nice to work with!
Definitely 👍
your quality and cleanliness is the same as our standards .... wish i could learn and work with you.
I’m only self taught here, I’m learning as I go
Gday Matty big project looks pretty good so far those fine threads you've got coming up on the leadscrew would be where I'd come unstuck you'll have it shot though no worries. My mill came with a Sino DRO though it's a different model to yours but I can not get the PCD function to work tried multiple times following the instructions in the user manual to a tee I'm thinking of swapping it out for an Eason or something else a bit better, bloody annoying I could have used the PCD thing on multiple occasions. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build its always interesting to see different approaches to the way people build things.
Gday, Its going to be an interesting build thats for sure, so far I cant fault the dro and I have played with the PCD function and works fine, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers
Another interesting build Matty. Looking forward to the rest of it in due course.
That DRO project on the Bridgeport is inspiring.
My old 1952 BP has a Sony DRO that’s got Noah’s initials engraved in it, but it’s only 2 axis. I wouldn’t mind ripping it off and going for 3 axis.
Can I ask “ball park” what it cost to buy the 3 axis dro & scales please?
I figure if they have just supplied you, they will know exactly what length scales to supply me. 👍
Gday, rough cost was around $800 for my setup, you can get a cheaper display which will do the same job, check out Digitech Direct mate, cheers
@@MattysWorkshop Thanks Matty, shall do. 👍
Morning to ya Matty its 100am Pacific time love the work how'the health doin🙏
Gday, truly appreciate you watching, the health is going ok really, cheers
That part had a bit of everything. The placement of that oil hole was designed too close not much you could have done about it.
The mill looks to be working out very well. With the additional of the DRO it will be a mainstay of your shop for years to come.
Gday, the oil hole is in the correct position, I just read the plan wrong and drilled it M4 not 3.3 for M4 thread, the drawing was done with the arbor mounting holes being an even PCD, unfortunately there not and but the plans have since been updated, having the DRO on the mill now has been fantastic, thanks for watching
We pay big $ for old machines in reasonable condition in Australia. I see what guys pick up in the US and Uk for not a lot it’s hard to swallow.
Certainly is, even tooling in the USA is incredibly cheap compared to here
That is an excellent video! I watched that Mill Spindle spinning and could not see any wobble! Did you refurbish the Spindle components or still original? Nice share. Keep em coming please...
Gday, Thanks for the positive feedback, I replaced the spindle bearing a couple of months ago so far the mill is going really well, Thanks for watching, Cheers
I have a Sino DRO that came on my new Hafco lathe. May be these are more reliable than the Hafco DROs and they don't use the Hafco ones anymore? I have had no issues with it and it works great.
Good start to the new project.
Gday John, so far I’m really happy with the Sino dro, I have upgraded the lathe display now as well, appreciate you watching mate…
👍👍😎👍👍
Thanks for watching mate
G'day Matty, nice job mate! Don't worry about your minor mistake, we all do them! Also you normally make stuff not using plans, and sometimes reading a drawing isn't easy if you're not used to working from engineering drawings, so don't feel bad about it. Is that what they call Meehanite cast iron you are using? It seems a lot cleaner than normal grey cast iron. I've just made a solid tool post for my lathe, and to get a piece of Meehanite to do it was going to cost me nearly £100 GBP., so I bought a 12 kg kettle bell training weight and struggled to make it from that lol. It worked but my tiny little shed was covered in cast iron dust, every surface absolutely black as Newgates Knocker as we say here in the UK. I've wiped every surface multiple times but stuff my hands come back black every time I touch something! I'd love to get the plans for this boring and facing head. I would have to scale it down as I don't think my little mill would handle anything bigger than 50-60 mm in diameter on a MT3 arbor. Looking forward to the rest of the series Matty, as usual you'll make a great job of it I have no doubt! On a note about your Sino Dro, what sort of price are they just for the display in Aus? Just to give me a rough idea as I want to change my display as mine is crap! Cheers mate, Sam UK
Gday Sam, I’m not sure the grade of cast it is but it wasn’t “powdery” like other cast I’ve machined before, I’m 95% sure the plans will become available after I’m finished building this one, the display I got is on sale atm for $375, Cheers
@@MattysWorkshop cheers for the info mate !
Great job as usual mate I was wondering if you have the room to make the thread 5mm instead of 4mm it might save time in the long run
Gday, there’s not quite enough room to put M5 in neatly, thanks for watching mate
Looks nice. Surely an M5 plug will work just as well as an M4?
Gday, there’s not quite enough room for M5 but a plug will work just fine, thanks for watching
Hi Matty wear did you get that chunk of cast iron from
Gday, Its a piece I had given to me a long time ago, I've been waiting for the right project to use it on, Thanks for watching, Cheers
1st?
On the ball mate
@MattysWorkshop You keep beating me getting to the CEE videos Matty. I blame it on the time it takes to get the signal from Oz to the UK and back again. You are a lot closer.
can the current model be updated?
Yes it can quite easily
Hi what‘s the material spec？
Gday, I’m not 100% sure what grade of cast it is, it was a piece that was given to me some time ago
@@MattysWorkshop Hi Gday look like a very fine grade cast iron.
Mistakes are a part of life just recover from it and move on
We all make them mate and thats how we learn, Thanks for watching, Cheers
There is various folklore about leaving a deliberate error in something made to avoid the displeasure of "the gods" because only they can make something perfect. So there is your excuse!
Note - "folklore".... I can't find a definitive verification.
I'd be very worried if I ever made something that never had a mistake on it, Thanks for watching, Cheers
Matty do answer your emails
I certain try to get to all the emails
I really do not trust those coax indicators they are sticky in operation and the response of the dial indicator changes with length and angle of the probe making the runout readings meaningless in absolute terms. Far better to use an indcol style arm and horizontally mounted dial test indicator as used almost exclusively by Joe Pi. Cant get a much better reference than Joe.
do you realize if you make a video we will watch it because we like you and yr expertise and if you do make a videos you will can make yr self some income so you should have made the video mounting the D R O because every one does it def and there is alway trick we can learn , so please make the vids we will watch
Thanks for watching
Really interesting project. Hope the drawings are made available for a sensible fee.
Gday, big chance the plans will be available mate