Regarding cycles, I kind of imagine King Suleiman can be regarded as part of the djinn/efreet cycle. The other four colors have them, and white destroy them.
One Thousand and One Nights is a very old book and it is in the public domain as a result, so they could still do it today. This is also why something like Aladdin doesn't have legal issues.
As a regular Commander player, those choices for the Smothering Tithe award are hilarious. I checked the EDHRec ranks, and of the 73 Arabian Nights cards legal in the format, Old Man of the Sea is the 34th most played card (in 200 decks total) and Ifh-Biff is 51st (in 83 decks). The actual most played card in the format BY FAR is City of Brass at over 190,000 decks, with Oubliette in a very distant second at 17,250 decks (largely black devotion). After that, Desert is in 9,620 decks thanks to the Amonkhet deserts-matter theme, and then the next best card is under 3,000 (Bazaar of Baghdad, which is somehow legal in this format).
while if i was picking i would pick desert, its just a very cool idea, appealing to basically anyone who has a interest in the history of the middle east/northern africa , some people would immediately be like "i want to make/ can i build a desert deck" upon seeing the card, and commander is the only thing where it would fly, isnt having them pick something from the perspective of someone who doesn't play commander more interesting then to just google the most played card and going "that one!"? anyone can do that. i guess maybe, i dont play commander so i wouldnt know, but itd surprise me.
@@giggz1667 "some people would immediately be like "i want to make/ can i build a desert deck" upon seeing the card, and commander is the only thing where it would fly," Ahh yes, Commander, the format for the Desert Deck, where you can run...one copy of each Desert. Of which there was...one card, until Amonkhet.
my imagination is a piece of slate. i need the card to say desert on it. i will not look for card art that looks like a desert. city of brass means nothing to me. @@StarkMaximum
Definitely sleeping on City of Brass in many of the award categories. An absolute slam dunk for Smothering Tithe, certainly a respectable top 3 for Vintage cube and I would personally have it as an outside, workhorse winner of the set - over the course of Magic history, it helped so many decks to function and win. Maybe its many reprints and mechanistic bottom-up design make it feel like less of an Arabian Nights card?
Heya guys. Love the vids. Old man of the sea is indeed printed as Marid but it's not because he's a rebel. Marid is actually a different type/tribe of Genie. Basically along with Djinn, Efreet you would also have Marids. So it makes sense that they later rolled him into Djinn.
I love Arabian Nights! I started playing back in 96', growing up in Queens NY... it was very hard to find ABU & the 4 horseman packs anywhere. My local card stores carried Mirage, Visions, Ice Age, Homelands, 4th ed, Chronicles, & Fallen Empires. However, two years later in 98' I found out about Neutral Ground in Manhattan NYC because of Type II Tournaments. This is where I first met Brian Marshall (cool dude). Neutral Ground introduced me to 93-94 Magic where I first saw Juzam Djinn, Moxens, Black Lotus, etc.. I remember buying used revised dual lands for $8-$12. I miss the smell of the 90's magic cards...=)
Someone that played with us in university decades ago had a shahrazzad deck. I've personally been in a subgame of a subgame of a forked shahrazad. The guy even played ring of mah ruf to pull in shahrazad from the parent games
It's a funny coincidence that Al-Qadim (for D&D) and Disney's Aladdin were both released in 1992. It seems very likely that some combination of those influences helped decide the theme for Magic's first expansion, by putting the 1001 Nights into the American zeitgeist generally, as well as into the specific gaming nerd sphere.
It's really interesting how nonbasic lands got a different look in each set in the early days. AN has that sandy color in the textbox with a light brown frame, AQ's is darker framed with a reddish textbox, Legends has a light gray frame with a gold textbox, The Dark had purple hues in its frame and a purple textbox, etc. Alliances uses what seems to be an update of the Dark's, Ice Age is like that but a bit lighter, Mirage uses a purple textbox kinda like IA but different... the lands in Urza's Saga mirror their colors. Finally they standarized it with Mercadian Masques and stuck with that.
Gotta say I just love this series and can't even wait for the next sets! Such great content. But as a Whirling Dervish fan, I gotta point out the error at 1:37:40 that Whirling Dervish is actually a Legends card! So i hope to hear more about this is two episodes from now ;)
Thought it was funny it was mentioned that you might not be able to make a set designed completely around a book. When i just watched the Lord of the Rings set spoilers this morning 🤣 love the video! Keep it up!
I am digging this so much, just a few more sets and you'll be where I got started. The format is great, and I'm loving the chapter breaks, too, they've made great points to hit pause and take care of something before continuing on
A lot of comments about how City of Brass is the best commander card-which is objectively correct. However, I love how Cedric and Pat’s choices get back to the heart of multiplayer singleton Magic. Forget deck optimization, forget constant power creep. Their choices say “hey, this not a very powerful card, but it is extremely flavorful and would be cool in a multiplayer setting.” And I love that
Hi guys, great video! Your content is absolutely top quality! I look forward for your Antiquities video! I want to say something personal about the "changed reprints" you talked about at 00:51:27. I have always hated them, especially the Sixth Edition ones! The one I hated the most was Castle in Sixth Edition, which removed the "unless attacking" clause. But there were a bunch of functionally changed reprints in Fourth Edition and Chronicles as well. Examples include Ghazban Ogre, El-Hajjaj, and some cards from Legends. Fog at a certain point had three different versions: ABU, Revised and 4th! I hope you can find the time to talk about these reprints in your next videos, if you plan to talk about the core sets and Chronicles as well. Finally, a quick small correction. At 00:00:56 you say that between Unlimited and Revised there were "a bunch of expansions" and you listed Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends and The Dark. Actually, Revised came out between Antiquities and Legends, so only two of those were in between.
Much of the power of Juzam Djinn was contextual. The 5 power gave it a quick clock for its cost, making it a worthwhile threat that could be powered out on the first turn with Black Lotus or turn two with a Dark Ritual. The 5 toughness meant it couldn’t be killed with Lightning Bolt (unlike other 4 mana powerhouse Juggernaut) and being black meant it was immune to Terror.
Sure but they also wouldn't print anything you could consider comparable or better until Argothian Wurm in Urza's Saga? Maybe Blastoderm in Nemesis? Deadbridge Goliath has no downsides and the same cmc and p/t but that's 2012! Balduvian Horde springs to mind for same stats/cmc but it's way worse. Juzam Djinn was so overstatted for the era. Everything else you mentioned was just a bonus.
Good job on this one, and good to see you correct the timeline error in the last show (Unlimited did come out before Arabian Nights and it was December 1993). I can confirm the 2003 sealed case auction price -- it was at GenCon SoCal. Peter Adkison was in attendance and said there that there was none of that set held back -- they shipped it all. While he didn't state it directly, he implied that this was the last set where this was true. In general, the light cards are less common than the dark versions -- some (two, I think), however, are the same rarity. There are officially 14 variants, and two potential variants (Camel and Desert). Let the arguments begin. Finally, with the caveat that I am against all post censorship in gaming, my response to "it's just one card" is it's not -- it's already seven, and potentially growing -- where does one stop? We will not learn from our mistakes if we pretend they don't exist.
@@r.a.3829 There are 14 recognized variants -- you'll find them on the old official set lists. However, as mentioned in the video, some people claim there's a variant of Camel. It's subtle -- if it exists (they show a picture in the video -- I don't see it). This has been argued over for the last 30 years. Desert clearly has a variant -- often called "campfire", "mirage", or "cave" -- it's really obvious, happens on 2 of 11 cards on the plate (Desert is a C11), shows up on eBay (there's a few there now), and is unacknowledged by any official list (though CGC -- a card grading company -- recognizes it).
19:00 "this is pulled from existence, you couldn't do this today for some legal reason" - Well, you could, it's publicly domain. Problem with that is only that it remains public domain if you use it. They could make public domain based cards galore, but only the exact card text and the artwork would be copyrightable. The Characters used would still be publicly unowned, and a company really doesn't like not owning their stuff, which is why.
Yep, from a biz standpoint it makes sense. Personally, I would have preferred Theros Amohnket and Kaldheim use real world mythology, since they essentially just used the pantheon of those mythologies and gave them different names, and some times were super close to the original. Heliod-Helios etc
King Sulimon is the 5th piece (white) for the Djinn/Efreet cycle. Not a Djinn or Efreet, but fits in a very smart way. Richard Garfield is just that good of a designer, just did it in a 4D way. Surprised Patrick didnt catch this!!!!
With the small set size, i was curious how many cards from it would've been named. You guys get a B for mentioning 65/78 cards. Cards not mentioned: Alladin's Ring, Bottle of Suleiman, Eye for an Eye, Jandor's Ring, Jandor's Saddlebags, Jeweled Bird, Khabal Ghoul, Magnetic Mountain, Merchant Ship, Metamorphosis, Oasis, and Sandstorm
One interesting fact about the set symbol, it was designed by Christopher Rush. Also you missed a misprint, the mirage desert, it’s a desert with a white dot in the art.
thanks for making a video about arabian nights :) I've started accumulating more and more cards from the set. I love it so much even though I didn't play nor collect back then.
I remember listening to you two do commentary on SCG tour events, and even as a primarily YGO player, even early on, i could tell which one of you played white and which one played red lol. You guys are iconic for white and red cards
As someone who worked for a junk hauler and has been to the landfill many times, that picture was taken by whoever dumped it, they set that up to get out. You are not allowed to just drive into a landfill and there are strict laws about picking there. Also there's a bulldozer that flattens everything, to be there between the time it got dumped but was still in tact on top of the pile is impossible
Since none of the top comments seem to have one, here's an old Shahrazad story! It seems only fitting, given the intended flavor of the card after all... The year is 2009. Commander (then still primarily known to the average player as EDH) has just exploded in popularity amongst the local scene of a US city and state I won't bother to name. Keep in mind at this point in time there's a lot less structure, no "official" banlist to refer to since we were still pretty far off from WOTC recognizing the format. Our area's largest central LGS has begun holding weekly events consisting of a single free-for-all multiplayer game with prizes based on kills, and I'm attending for what was to my memory the second time, with a horrendous infinite turns deck featuring Teferi as my commander... But this story isn't about me. No, the central character of this tale is a random player from out of town who was marking their first attendance of the store proper, one who made the tragic decision shortly beforehand of purchasing a copy of Shahrazad (which had been proudly displayed in a top shelf area of the glass case at the front) with the intent to include it in their deck for the upcoming game. I was one of a few amongst those in attendance who observed and took notice this transaction taking place, but I simply braced myself for the potential possibility and said nothing, hoping they wouldn't draw it or that by the time they did someone (potentially me even) would have countermagic available. The fated time for our scheduled event to begin arrives, there's something like 10 players total including myself. We all sit down, shuffle up and do our best to find our own comfortable space at the table. Mulligans and die rolls are performed, and everything seems fine... But then, before half of us had so much as played a second land, there it was: The dreaded subgame generator, cast off a pair of basic plains by this complete stranger who happened to end up fairly early in the turn order. Nobody had the game piece necessary to prevent it from resolving, but what occurred instead was arguably worse: A heated debate swiftly ensued over how to proceed, since there was a strongly held sentiment across the entire rest of the table that not only was there a practical limitation of time (the store simply couldn't accommodate two full-length games featuring this many players at this point in the evening, given when we'd started) but even if there had been sufficient free time available... _Nobody_ except the player who cast it was willing to go through the motions. Tempers flared quickly, and despite one unfortunate soul's best intentions a vote was soon held. The outcome: Shahrazad was banned, effective immediately. Most of us did feel bad for this person who had effectively just spent nearly a hundred dollars committing a serious social faux pas, however the vote was unanimous. The game was restarted, and given we'd only just begun in the first place this player was presented the option to enter our restarted game despite the offense, so long as Shahrazad was replaced. They declined and promptly left the store instead, never to return.
It was actually Jody Keith who won with Lands and spiked the price of Drop of Honey. And, interestingly enough, he was borrowing my Drops. But, I think he bought some of his own at the event.
The wildest thing about Shahrazad is that it's a Sorcery despite being a person. It should have been named One Thousand and One Nights (Subgames of Magic)
For mechanics you did not include coin flipping. Most of the Arabian Nights cards I own are in my coin flip commander deck. I love having the OG Arabian Nights versions in that deck.
The statement at 20:10 into the video. "You would go to your local shop & frequently play against cards, that you have never seen before." So, like right now... oh wotc, you have come full circle
speaking of sphinx's rev, I feel like the only reason people didn't hate hexproof in Theros standard is because you could blast the control player into oblivion with hexproof + boros charm double strike.
I am working on a complete set of ARN. I have at least one playset of each common, 100 Flying Men, and most of the uncommons. I still need 11 cards, which unfortunately are the most expensive ones.
Oubliette is one of the best AN commander cards because phasing out someone’s commander is quite strong. Because of the commander rules if you exile someones commander they can rezone it back to the command zone. If you phase it out it hasnt changed zones so its stuck until the oubliette is destroyed.
Cedric is right, 'Magic' italicised can be found on several un-cards, Booster Tutor comes to mind, or Opening Ceremony. I think Gus & Ghazban Ogress have Magic, but it's bold not italics.
At the 13 minute discussing rarities in the packs does anyone think there will be an issue similar with play boosters when they release this month? I recall TCC mentioning there will be more UC’s per pack. Giving me the impression they will be the new C
I feel like the djinn/ efreet cycle having four cards… you failed to mention that white got the antithesis card in King Sulieman! You failed to mention- there’s a variant on DESERT. Kind of a misprint, but look up the “mirror” version or “campfire” version. BGS will differentiate the error version. Also Rush Egg, the wording confused players, and would literally discard the card on turn one to make it work.
Will back Diamond Valley winning awards - It is a MVP in my Child of Alara lands/gates deck. It’s a very narrow card, but in the right deck is a house.
There aren`t 93 but 92 different cards as I know, you said Camel has 2 versions but I only know one. Everywhere online there is 1 Camel version and 92 different cards. Please let me show me if I`m wrong, got the set complete except of the 2nd Camel...
Green: You can have cards if you have creatures. Red: You can have cards but you have to play them now. Black: You can have cards but you have to pay life or sacrifice things. Blue: You can have cards. White: You can't have cards. This is the main reason that white historically falls behind.
Patrick just shuffling the cards makes me wanna stay up all night drive to a GP smoke a whole pack of cigs and take a double shot of Jack with maro
Regarding cycles, I kind of imagine King Suleiman can be regarded as part of the djinn/efreet cycle. The other four colors have them, and white destroy them.
I thought the same.
One Thousand and One Nights is a very old book and it is in the public domain as a result, so they could still do it today. This is also why something like Aladdin doesn't have legal issues.
As a regular Commander player, those choices for the Smothering Tithe award are hilarious.
I checked the EDHRec ranks, and of the 73 Arabian Nights cards legal in the format, Old Man of the Sea is the 34th most played card (in 200 decks total) and Ifh-Biff is 51st (in 83 decks).
The actual most played card in the format BY FAR is City of Brass at over 190,000 decks, with Oubliette in a very distant second at 17,250 decks (largely black devotion). After that, Desert is in 9,620 decks thanks to the Amonkhet deserts-matter theme, and then the next best card is under 3,000 (Bazaar of Baghdad, which is somehow legal in this format).
while if i was picking i would pick desert, its just a very cool idea, appealing to basically anyone who has a interest in the history of the middle east/northern africa , some people would immediately be like "i want to make/ can i build a desert deck" upon seeing the card, and commander is the only thing where it would fly, isnt having them pick something from the perspective of someone who doesn't play commander more interesting then to just google the most played card and going "that one!"? anyone can do that. i guess maybe, i dont play commander so i wouldnt know, but itd surprise me.
Bazaar is legal in Commander AND barely played? Oh Commander, you truly are an upside-down bizarro world.
@@giggz1667 "some people would immediately be like "i want to make/ can i build a desert deck" upon seeing the card, and commander is the only thing where it would fly,"
Ahh yes, Commander, the format for the Desert Deck, where you can run...one copy of each Desert. Of which there was...one card, until Amonkhet.
my imagination is a piece of slate. i need the card to say desert on it. i will not look for card art that looks like a desert. city of brass means nothing to me. @@StarkMaximum
@@davidlundquist1979 Bazaar also costs over $2K and a lot of people don't like to proxy their commander decks
Definitely sleeping on City of Brass in many of the award categories. An absolute slam dunk for Smothering Tithe, certainly a respectable top 3 for Vintage cube and I would personally have it as an outside, workhorse winner of the set - over the course of Magic history, it helped so many decks to function and win. Maybe its many reprints and mechanistic bottom-up design make it feel like less of an Arabian Nights card?
Yeah it became the stereotype of of taps for any color to the point we forgot it was emblematic of the set.
Heya guys. Love the vids. Old man of the sea is indeed printed as Marid but it's not because he's a rebel. Marid is actually a different type/tribe of Genie. Basically along with Djinn, Efreet you would also have Marids. So it makes sense that they later rolled him into Djinn.
Patrick's shuffling I love it!!
I cannot believe you guys are going to go thru every major set...I can't wait!!!!
this didn't show up in my subs, so I turned on notifications. glad i caught it!
Same, didn't show in my subs either. Maybe something for them to look into.
Started playing magic in Oath, and hearing about these beginning sets from these experts is amazing. Love this so much!
Pouring one out for leprosy matters, the deck archetype cut down before it ever reached its prime.
I love Arabian Nights! I started playing back in 96', growing up in Queens NY... it was very hard to find ABU & the 4 horseman packs anywhere. My local card stores carried Mirage, Visions, Ice Age, Homelands, 4th ed, Chronicles, & Fallen Empires. However, two years later in 98' I found out about Neutral Ground in Manhattan NYC because of Type II Tournaments. This is where I first met Brian Marshall (cool dude). Neutral Ground introduced me to 93-94 Magic where I first saw Juzam Djinn, Moxens, Black Lotus, etc.. I remember buying used revised dual lands for $8-$12. I miss the smell of the 90's magic cards...=)
These two are Magic's finest. Great stuff guys!
Someone that played with us in university decades ago had a shahrazzad deck. I've personally been in a subgame of a subgame of a forked shahrazad. The guy even played ring of mah ruf to pull in shahrazad from the parent games
This series is just delightful
Just so you know, there actually was Magic 30 found in the landfill.
lol of course
The over priced proxy version or the countdown kit?
@@mattm7798 Yeah, what are the proper names of those two sets? because I keep getting confused between them
I'm sad that we won't get to see Patrick's reaction to this.
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It's a funny coincidence that Al-Qadim (for D&D) and Disney's Aladdin were both released in 1992. It seems very likely that some combination of those influences helped decide the theme for Magic's first expansion, by putting the 1001 Nights into the American zeitgeist generally, as well as into the specific gaming nerd sphere.
It's actually not a coincidence. This was very much planned.
Very true. Also, it's such a rich source for card design it likely make their design alot easier than creating a whole new plane out of whole cloth.
THANK YOU for starting these up again and going from oldest and up!!!!!
So much faster than expected, really happy to see this!
Does king sulenan get any consideration as the missing white card in the djinn efreet cycle? It does interact with them.
It's really interesting how nonbasic lands got a different look in each set in the early days. AN has that sandy color in the textbox with a light brown frame, AQ's is darker framed with a reddish textbox, Legends has a light gray frame with a gold textbox, The Dark had purple hues in its frame and a purple textbox, etc. Alliances uses what seems to be an update of the Dark's, Ice Age is like that but a bit lighter, Mirage uses a purple textbox kinda like IA but different... the lands in Urza's Saga mirror their colors. Finally they standarized it with Mercadian Masques and stuck with that.
I haven't played magic 15 years and I love this show
Obviously, Alpha/Beta/Unlimited is GOAT, but this was so much more fun to listen through.
Gotta say I just love this series and can't even wait for the next sets! Such great content. But as a Whirling Dervish fan, I gotta point out the error at 1:37:40 that Whirling Dervish is actually a Legends card! So i hope to hear more about this is two episodes from now ;)
i was going to comment the same thing!
Thought it was funny it was mentioned that you might not be able to make a set designed completely around a book. When i just watched the Lord of the Rings set spoilers this morning 🤣 love the video! Keep it up!
This series has already become absolute must-watch, appointment viewing. Love it, can't wait for more!
I am digging this so much, just a few more sets and you'll be where I got started. The format is great, and I'm loving the chapter breaks, too, they've made great points to hit pause and take care of something before continuing on
Amazing idea for a show and great to see you guys back in action. Love those old cards and excited about hopefully many future episodes!
Great conversation and information. Can’t wait to check out the other vids in this series
I love this series, and the game design perspectives are really interesting and insightful.
Wow, minute 1 on TH-cam. And here I was wondering why I didn't see it yet on my podcatcher
Love seeing the duo back at it!
I'm surprised Oubliette wasn't mentioned for best commander card given that the errata lets it permanently remove commanders unless answered.
There's another card that does this, a white enchantment
@@thoticcusprime9309 there are a bunch. But the most played card is actually City of Brass, it's great in any colour heavy deck!
A lot of comments about how City of Brass is the best commander card-which is objectively correct. However, I love how Cedric and Pat’s choices get back to the heart of multiplayer singleton Magic. Forget deck optimization, forget constant power creep. Their choices say “hey, this not a very powerful card, but it is extremely flavorful and would be cool in a multiplayer setting.” And I love that
1:15 as in an hour and 15 is gold. What an edit.
Hi guys, great video! Your content is absolutely top quality!
I look forward for your Antiquities video!
I want to say something personal about the "changed reprints" you talked about at 00:51:27. I have always hated them, especially the Sixth Edition ones! The one I hated the most was Castle in Sixth Edition, which removed the "unless attacking" clause. But there were a bunch of functionally changed reprints in Fourth Edition and Chronicles as well. Examples include Ghazban Ogre, El-Hajjaj, and some cards from Legends. Fog at a certain point had three different versions: ABU, Revised and 4th! I hope you can find the time to talk about these reprints in your next videos, if you plan to talk about the core sets and Chronicles as well.
Finally, a quick small correction. At 00:00:56 you say that between Unlimited and Revised there were "a bunch of expansions" and you listed Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends and The Dark. Actually, Revised came out between Antiquities and Legends, so only two of those were in between.
riffle shuffling $2,200 worth of mountains *chef's kiss*
Much of the power of Juzam Djinn was contextual. The 5 power gave it a quick clock for its cost, making it a worthwhile threat that could be powered out on the first turn with Black Lotus or turn two with a Dark Ritual. The 5 toughness meant it couldn’t be killed with Lightning Bolt (unlike other 4 mana powerhouse Juggernaut) and being black meant it was immune to Terror.
Sure but they also wouldn't print anything you could consider comparable or better until Argothian Wurm in Urza's Saga? Maybe Blastoderm in Nemesis? Deadbridge Goliath has no downsides and the same cmc and p/t but that's 2012! Balduvian Horde springs to mind for same stats/cmc but it's way worse. Juzam Djinn was so overstatted for the era. Everything else you mentioned was just a bonus.
This video showed up in my recommended feed, but not my subscriptions, even though I was already subscribed. Thought y'all should know.
Good job on this one, and good to see you correct the timeline error in the last show (Unlimited did come out before Arabian Nights and it was December 1993).
I can confirm the 2003 sealed case auction price -- it was at GenCon SoCal. Peter Adkison was in attendance and said there that there was none of that set held back -- they shipped it all. While he didn't state it directly, he implied that this was the last set where this was true.
In general, the light cards are less common than the dark versions -- some (two, I think), however, are the same rarity. There are officially 14 variants, and two potential variants (Camel and Desert). Let the arguments begin.
Finally, with the caveat that I am against all post censorship in gaming, my response to "it's just one card" is it's not -- it's already seven, and potentially growing -- where does one stop? We will not learn from our mistakes if we pretend they don't exist.
@@r.a.3829 There are 14 recognized variants -- you'll find them on the old official set lists. However, as mentioned in the video, some people claim there's a variant of Camel. It's subtle -- if it exists (they show a picture in the video -- I don't see it). This has been argued over for the last 30 years. Desert clearly has a variant -- often called "campfire", "mirage", or "cave" -- it's really obvious, happens on 2 of 11 cards on the plate (Desert is a C11), shows up on eBay (there's a few there now), and is unacknowledged by any official list (though CGC -- a card grading company -- recognizes it).
19:00 "this is pulled from existence, you couldn't do this today for some legal reason" - Well, you could, it's publicly domain. Problem with that is only that it remains public domain if you use it. They could make public domain based cards galore, but only the exact card text and the artwork would be copyrightable. The Characters used would still be publicly unowned, and a company really doesn't like not owning their stuff, which is why.
Yep, from a biz standpoint it makes sense. Personally, I would have preferred Theros Amohnket and Kaldheim use real world mythology, since they essentially just used the pantheon of those mythologies and gave them different names, and some times were super close to the original. Heliod-Helios etc
@@mattm7798 I rather they not use real world. zzz so boring
Just a heads up this didn't show up in my subscription feed so you might wanna do a community post in case people missed it
Hype! Thanks for putting out such awesome content
King Sulimon is the 5th piece (white) for the Djinn/Efreet cycle. Not a Djinn or Efreet, but fits in a very smart way. Richard Garfield is just that good of a designer, just did it in a 4D way. Surprised Patrick didnt catch this!!!!
This was amazing, keep up the fantastic work!
Favorite set. Just for all the creative and unique abilities cards had. Like ali from cairo.
Since the resleevables came back, I would love to see a return of recurring insight. I really loved that series.
What was that? A deep dive into a specific topic?
With the small set size, i was curious how many cards from it would've been named. You guys get a B for mentioning 65/78 cards.
Cards not mentioned: Alladin's Ring, Bottle of Suleiman, Eye for an Eye, Jandor's Ring, Jandor's Saddlebags, Jeweled Bird, Khabal Ghoul, Magnetic Mountain, Merchant Ship, Metamorphosis, Oasis, and Sandstorm
One interesting fact about the set symbol, it was designed by Christopher Rush.
Also you missed a misprint, the mirage desert, it’s a desert with a white dot in the art.
thanks for making a video about arabian nights :) I've started accumulating more and more cards from the set. I love it so much even though I didn't play nor collect back then.
This series is really cool.
I remember listening to you two do commentary on SCG tour events, and even as a primarily YGO player, even early on, i could tell which one of you played white and which one played red lol. You guys are iconic for white and red cards
One of my favorite cards in magic that also kind of breaks the color pie, Guardian Beast.
"Leprosy matters" had me laughing so hard
lets pump these numbers up for the best mtg show
As someone who worked for a junk hauler and has been to the landfill many times, that picture was taken by whoever dumped it, they set that up to get out. You are not allowed to just drive into a landfill and there are strict laws about picking there. Also there's a bulldozer that flattens everything, to be there between the time it got dumped but was still in tact on top of the pile is impossible
I used to run Mono-Black Aggro. Dark Rits, Hypnotics, Juzam, and of course... ST Devils. They wore an Unholy Strength fantastically. Lol
Since none of the top comments seem to have one, here's an old Shahrazad story! It seems only fitting, given the intended flavor of the card after all...
The year is 2009. Commander (then still primarily known to the average player as EDH) has just exploded in popularity amongst the local scene of a US city and state I won't bother to name. Keep in mind at this point in time there's a lot less structure, no "official" banlist to refer to since we were still pretty far off from WOTC recognizing the format. Our area's largest central LGS has begun holding weekly events consisting of a single free-for-all multiplayer game with prizes based on kills, and I'm attending for what was to my memory the second time, with a horrendous infinite turns deck featuring Teferi as my commander... But this story isn't about me. No, the central character of this tale is a random player from out of town who was marking their first attendance of the store proper, one who made the tragic decision shortly beforehand of purchasing a copy of Shahrazad (which had been proudly displayed in a top shelf area of the glass case at the front) with the intent to include it in their deck for the upcoming game. I was one of a few amongst those in attendance who observed and took notice this transaction taking place, but I simply braced myself for the potential possibility and said nothing, hoping they wouldn't draw it or that by the time they did someone (potentially me even) would have countermagic available.
The fated time for our scheduled event to begin arrives, there's something like 10 players total including myself. We all sit down, shuffle up and do our best to find our own comfortable space at the table. Mulligans and die rolls are performed, and everything seems fine... But then, before half of us had so much as played a second land, there it was: The dreaded subgame generator, cast off a pair of basic plains by this complete stranger who happened to end up fairly early in the turn order. Nobody had the game piece necessary to prevent it from resolving, but what occurred instead was arguably worse: A heated debate swiftly ensued over how to proceed, since there was a strongly held sentiment across the entire rest of the table that not only was there a practical limitation of time (the store simply couldn't accommodate two full-length games featuring this many players at this point in the evening, given when we'd started) but even if there had been sufficient free time available... _Nobody_ except the player who cast it was willing to go through the motions. Tempers flared quickly, and despite one unfortunate soul's best intentions a vote was soon held. The outcome: Shahrazad was banned, effective immediately.
Most of us did feel bad for this person who had effectively just spent nearly a hundred dollars committing a serious social faux pas, however the vote was unanimous. The game was restarted, and given we'd only just begun in the first place this player was presented the option to enter our restarted game despite the offense, so long as Shahrazad was replaced. They declined and promptly left the store instead, never to return.
Great episode. More like Unsleevables with those City of Brass.
It was actually Jody Keith who won with Lands and spiked the price of Drop of Honey. And, interestingly enough, he was borrowing my Drops. But, I think he bought some of his own at the event.
Surprised you didn't mention King Suleiman again when going over white not having a Djinn or Efreet. Its role in the cycles was to hose the cycles.
Still the two best magic personalities.
The wildest thing about Shahrazad is that it's a Sorcery despite being a person. It should have been named One Thousand and One Nights (Subgames of Magic)
For mechanics you did not include coin flipping. Most of the Arabian Nights cards I own are in my coin flip commander deck. I love having the OG Arabian Nights versions in that deck.
31:29 I always enjoyed playing mine on Frist Strike creatures or creatures with regeneration, like the Wisp or Black Knights.
The intro is too loud in the mix compared to your voices.
Love everything else though. So glad you two are back together behind a camera.
the pinback record in the back!!
The statement at 20:10 into the video.
"You would go to your local shop & frequently play against cards, that you have never seen before."
So, like right now... oh wotc, you have come full circle
Sharazad is played legally in 93/94 old school, Mr.Sullivan.
Play that format!
I ran Bazaar alongside Attunement in my Replenish Deck for Consistency.
speaking of sphinx's rev, I feel like the only reason people didn't hate hexproof in Theros standard is because you could blast the control player into oblivion with hexproof + boros charm double strike.
As an Israeli I have never heard the term "stone throwing devils" until today-
That intro 🔥
stalking stones as an example of lands that don’t just tap for mana is top tier boomer magic
Boomer magic ?
So late, but that RTJ Liliana shirt is SICK! Is that on Cedrick's apparel website?
www.coalesceapparel.shop/products/run-the-power
I didn't realise that there weren't any rares in this set!
I think City of Brass is the best of the Commander cards. :)
I am working on a complete set of ARN. I have at least one playset of each common, 100 Flying Men, and most of the uncommons. I still need 11 cards, which unfortunately are the most expensive ones.
Oubliette is one of the best AN commander cards because phasing out someone’s commander is quite strong. Because of the commander rules if you exile someones commander they can rezone it back to the command zone. If you phase it out it hasnt changed zones so its stuck until the oubliette is destroyed.
oubliette is my old school choice for sideboarding out Terror when playing black vs black
Cedric is right, 'Magic' italicised can be found on several un-cards, Booster Tutor comes to mind, or Opening Ceremony. I think Gus & Ghazban Ogress have Magic, but it's bold not italics.
Love the content!
Top notch stuff
At the 13 minute discussing rarities in the packs does anyone think there will be an issue similar with play boosters when they release this month?
I recall TCC mentioning there will be more UC’s per pack. Giving me the impression they will be the new C
I need that marit lage shirt!
I feel like the djinn/ efreet cycle having four cards… you failed to mention that white got the antithesis card in King Sulieman!
You failed to mention- there’s a variant on DESERT. Kind of a misprint, but look up the “mirror” version or “campfire” version. BGS will differentiate the error version. Also Rush Egg, the wording confused players, and would literally discard the card on turn one to make it work.
Will back Diamond Valley winning awards - It is a MVP in my Child of Alara lands/gates deck. It’s a very narrow card, but in the right deck is a house.
Psionic blast clearly breaks the color pie in Alpha
It's in pie because blue is the color of magic. -actual designers in the 90s
I need that Marit Lage 20/20 shirt
I think I need that Aussie Open Lili shirt. :^)
Does the old man yelling at clouds say, "Get off my lawn!"
🤔😜
so excited for legends
Love the GZ sticker.
I was under the impression that King Suleiman was meant to be understood as the white entry in the Djinn/Efreet cycle.
There aren`t 93 but 92 different cards as I know, you said Camel has 2 versions but I only know one. Everywhere online there is 1 Camel version and 92 different cards. Please let me show me if I`m wrong, got the set complete except of the 2nd Camel...
would it be possible to get the episodes uploaded to podcast apps, I find it a lot easier to listen on those platforms.
I’m upset that this video has been out for 15 hours and I’m just now seeing it.
#3 vintage cube card is probably City of Brass
King Suleiman and Bottle of Suleiman kind of fill out the Djinn and Efreet cycles.
Green: You can have cards if you have creatures.
Red: You can have cards but you have to play them now.
Black: You can have cards but you have to pay life or sacrifice things.
Blue: You can have cards.
White: You can't have cards.
This is the main reason that white historically falls behind.