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1. any adult conducting business with a company called 'Watches 'R Us' is a mark. 2. any adult conducting business with a gentleman who models themselves as a prison convict is a mark. 3. any adult conducting business without due diligence is a mark.
Interesting, you'd do your research how long the person was into horology, and in Sydney, who would you trust? Well there's a guy who is a real watch maker who invested a crateload to build watches who has been dealing for yonks, so he's the kind of person you'd deal with. It takes a long time to build reputation, so do some real due diligence, don't be a sheep.
You are absolutely correct 100% Oisin…..And yes, you could tell by this guy‘s appearance…. He’s not a refined person….! Another scam artist…! Don’t ever sell your watches on consignment ever! Good reporting Oisin…5 ✨
Never buy, sell or consign a watch to a guy who: 1. Wears a ball cap backwards. 2. Wears a hat indoors. 3. Has tattoos. Etc. Why does anyone have to write this?
Anyone that get tattoos in place they shouldn't be you know there fucked up people. I got 4 tats if I could go back in time I wouldn't have never got them they make people look trashy.
Those "refined types who know about art & wine" can be scammers too, they're just better at it; look at Aurel Bacs and Goldberger, for example. Pretty silly to assume that these people are any more honest, just because they wear a suit and know a fun fact or two about grape juice.
The people who trusted this dodgey tattooed criminal are absolutely mind blowing. There are many reputable traders in Sydney. I believe this man is either in Bangkok or Dubai
The watch market world wide had such a dark side, you thank used car dealers are crooks. let me put you on a wait list and I will see if you can spend $10,000.00 bucks on a stainless steel watch. another Crime piece gentlemen !!.
Hey O'Malley, you may not like everything I have to say here but ever since Roman started filming the trade shows, it has left a semi bitter taste in my mouth; The way they handle these items that we cherish, it is with no emotions, sure they are some what used to dealing day in day out and therefore, they see it as a business. However. the treatment of watches in these shows has lost some value for me in a lot of these dealers. Another big issue for me is when these guys wear watches they have for sale, that is so unethical. So, yea you are right about the watch world full of cow boys. Online journalists have commented about the market being low, it is a correction in my view because prices went from 0-60 in few months with the help of guys who thought they were in the stock market with high frequency trading. I am so happy with the current state. The industry was fostering investors, rather than true enthusiasts, they are part of the problem.
Funny, about 4 yrs ago I emailed Roman to ask a few questions about a watch and mentioned why do you guys treat watches like crap and throw them around....he just said yes you are right but never really answered my question.
@@GregSmith-pb3gh IT really is off putting, it was really nice to see what goes on. I'd rather go into a so called hated AD and buy a watch whenever I can.
the same muppets who throw around watches like groceries will skin you from the value of the timepiece you want to sell if the caseback is scratched by laying flat on the bracelet. low class scumbags
These watches are just stock to them, it could be anything else… These trade shows videos are interesting for the banter but the huge mass of these watches gave me nausea. We are led to believe these are rare, exclusive and precious, etc… but in reality not so; there are truckloads of these and these are also sold by the truckload…
If it looks like crap and smells like crap chances, are it probably is crap . I feel sorry for the pigmy with the tough stickers one day he might meet a guy he ripped off and the tough stickers are not going to save him . Karma is a bitch when it bites back.
As an Aussie who has spent way too much money on watches, most of them from second hand dealers, what were these guys thinking? Did they do no homework before they rushed into this? There are highly reputable dealers in all the capital cities that have been around for a long time and earning very good reputations, I've dealt with a few of them with no drama. These guys were just suckers waiting to be ripped off.
Funny thing is a watch market is worst place to do dealls, Im often buying and selling antiques, electronic. all kind of stuff that I can make some money on it, and watches are most risky, brutal, angry, fake, non trusty and ugly market from all of them. People are rude and so many scammers between them. I never buy watches for flipping, always for my self and sometimes I help people with my knowledge and many times they didn't say thank you when they know what they need. This is very ugly and specific market infected by worst people.
Asking for cash for significant amounts is an immediate signal of a bad operation- at the very least they are involved in tax avoidance. It’s also known that expensive watches are used for money laundering and even trafficking. People criticise authorised dealers but they offer security and you don’t have to deal with criminal types out to scam whoever they can. This sort of thing only started happening when some people started regarding watches as investments, which they are not.
Again. Who wants to deal for a time piece like this by a dumpster in the back alley from a guy who just got out jail? Why anyone does business with these charlatans is beyond me.
I hate to say it, but I fear the same. Once the flexing and the flying starts, it just raises red flags. I own my own business and know what travelling like that costs and is there enough money in watch sales to carry all that? Please let me be wrong!
At this point I can't feel sorry for anyone that gets scammed by giving their watches for consignment. FInd yourself a brick and motor store with someone that has been in business for 10-20 years. Stop giving your expensive watches to these johnny come latelys.
I am in Dubai. If this guy is genuinely in Dubai then it would not be easier to report him to the local authorities who will do their job. Fast and efficiently. Through friends I know a local who deals with deportation of scammers. The other way to catch that guy is passport renewal as at some point he’ll need it. Yet another easy way to clamp onto someone unless that person goes rogue abroad…
That's a very exclusive Sydney CBD address. No wonder people got hoodwinked with such a High Street location giving them confidence thinking their timepiece can be sold quickly and for a profit by a professional, successful and connected dealer. I agree with our esteemed venetian host Oisin: avoid such geezers. They can often be identified by their heavily tattooed knuckles scraping on the ground behind them and they saunter down the high street, usually dressed in bright Fluro designer garb, often in company with a rotund, short, uncouth and obnoxiously loud man-child screaming into a GoPro.
You are not being a snob, you are just voicing what many of us think. Handing 40,000 dollars to an individual like that is a huge leap of faith. The true colours of these individuals is being exposed time and time again. ( lets not even mention the right wing elements showing their true colours from other tattooed watch dealers)
1. any adult conducting business with a company called 'Watches 'R Us' is a mark.
2. any adult conducting business with a gentleman who models themselves as a prison convict is a mark.
3. any adult conducting business without due diligence is a mark.
Must of had a trip to the States in the past and bought his 11 illegitimate children some Legos from Toy R Us store...which has also gone tits up.
Tugging on Coat tails!
Sharf hoodie style is also a RED FLAG!!!!
You didn't even mention the biggest red flag!
If his profile picture shows him perched over a poker table? That's probably bad news! 😢
Tugging on Coat tails!
Or rented Ferrari's
Tatts n watches…
so many watch dealers are scammers!
Car dealers,real estate anywhere big bucks are involved.
Literally anything big $$ is involved
Watches are us 😂
These people probably believe politicians are telling the truth.
Tugging on Coat tails!
The prison tattoos was a dead giveaway. Why the owners trusted him is just beyond stupidity.
HA!
prison tatoos? hardly moishe soyberg
so u mean everyone with tattoos are crooks?
You only need a backpack and a rail pass to become a watch dealer these days?
I don’t understand people handing over watches to people they don’t know, absolutely crazy
It's the same as handing over fine artwork. There's literally no difference.
@@clifforddriver9434 you cant wear a painting on your wrist and a painting doesn’t tell the time so fucking shut it
Interesting, you'd do your research how long the person was into horology, and in Sydney, who would you trust? Well there's a guy who is a real watch maker who invested a crateload to build watches who has been dealing for yonks, so he's the kind of person you'd deal with. It takes a long time to build reputation, so do some real due diligence, don't be a sheep.
Another successful graduate of TPG University.
Where's Archie Luxury? I'd love to hear his take on this matter. 😂
TPG graduate 😂🤣 but fir the victims it’s 😭😤😡🤬
Never trust your money with someone that gambles... never
Watches r us ? Like toys r us ? Come on bro 😂
As opposed to Hodinki? Watchdeals? Chrono24? Jaztime? They all sound like untrustworthy names to me, and yet...
" if you dont hold it , you dont own it" Those are words to live and die by
You can judge a book by its cover when it comes to watch dealers.
That picture isn’t Ian Tilman - news posted wrong picture
And look what happened to 4P? Tattoos on hands period or saying you’re “honest” seems conspicuously and criminally consistent.
Who is 4P (genuine question)
@@thediplomat3137 A crook , a liar and Nazi.
At one stage I thought it was Paul Thorpe’s wrist.
good one
How hard is it to see these guys are jocks? Did Paul back him up?
You are absolutely correct 100% Oisin…..And yes, you could tell by this guy‘s appearance…. He’s not a refined person….! Another scam artist…! Don’t ever sell your watches on consignment ever! Good reporting Oisin…5 ✨
Never buy, sell or consign a watch to a guy who: 1. Wears a ball cap backwards. 2. Wears a hat indoors. 3. Has tattoos. Etc. Why does anyone have to write this?
amen
C'mon now, I have one tattoo,U.S.M.C. surely I get a pass right?
It’s just so tough to protect people from bad judgment
Looks like a fairly respectable young lad. I would definitely give him my luxury watch.
The company name would have been the first red flag.
Call me a snob but I never do business with someone who has tattoos on their hands or face unless I want a builder...
Anyone that get tattoos in place they shouldn't be you know there fucked up people. I got 4 tats if I could go back in time I wouldn't have never got them they make people look trashy.
Concur
Also always buy with a credit card since if scammed, you can reverse the charge and get your money back.
I'm exactly the same. People can call us snobs all they want
Or class A's obviously 😂👍
Those "refined types who know about art & wine" can be scammers too, they're just better at it; look at Aurel Bacs and Goldberger, for example. Pretty silly to assume that these people are any more honest, just because they wear a suit and know a fun fact or two about grape juice.
That dealer looks like the archetype of a sketchy scammer.
Why are watch dealers always either from the Traveller community or covered in tattoos?
It’s not even Ian Tilman in the picture , news got it wrong
No sympathy for idiots.
Watches R Us..😂😂😂
Thought it was the blob of Brisbane…..
Clay?
The people who trusted this dodgey tattooed criminal are absolutely mind blowing. There are many reputable traders in Sydney. I believe this man is either in Bangkok or Dubai
The watch market world wide had such a dark side, you thank used car dealers are crooks. let me put you on a wait list and I will see if you can spend $10,000.00 bucks on a stainless steel watch. another Crime piece gentlemen !!.
Hey O'Malley, you may not like everything I have to say here but ever since Roman started filming the trade shows, it has left a semi bitter taste in my mouth; The way they handle these items that we cherish, it is with no emotions, sure they are some what used to dealing day in day out and therefore, they see it as a business. However. the treatment of watches in these shows has lost some value for me in a lot of these dealers. Another big issue for me is when these guys wear watches they have for sale, that is so unethical. So, yea you are right about the watch world full of cow boys. Online journalists have commented about the market being low, it is a correction in my view because prices went from 0-60 in few months with the help of guys who thought they were in the stock market with high frequency trading. I am so happy with the current state. The industry was fostering investors, rather than true enthusiasts, they are part of the problem.
Funny, about 4 yrs ago I emailed Roman to ask a few questions about a watch and mentioned why do you guys treat watches like crap and throw them around....he just said yes you are right but never really answered my question.
@@GregSmith-pb3gh IT really is off putting, it was really nice to see what goes on. I'd rather go into a so called hated AD and buy a watch whenever I can.
the same muppets who throw around watches like groceries will skin you from the value of the timepiece you want to sell if the caseback is scratched by laying flat on the bracelet. low class scumbags
These watches are just stock to them, it could be anything else… These trade shows videos are interesting for the banter but the huge mass of these watches gave me nausea. We are led to believe these are rare, exclusive and precious, etc… but in reality not so; there are truckloads of these and these are also sold by the truckload…
Well said Oisin.
If it looks like crap and smells like crap chances, are it probably is crap . I feel sorry for the pigmy with the tough stickers one day he might meet a guy he ripped off and the tough stickers are not going to save him . Karma is a bitch when it bites back.
Your watches are us he ment!
If you watch youtube watch sellers, many more look like this guy than some kind of sophisticated gentleman.
I would argue that TH-cam is certainly NOT the standard by which one should judge.
Cant hide with those tats, someone must know where he is probably Dubai
Do people really lack the skill to look and someone and not think... 'He looks dodgy' lol
I feel the sympathy, yet sometimes it's a lesson that one needs to learn....🧐 GET HIM !!! 👊
Here we go again 🤦🏼♀️
As an Aussie who has spent way too much money on watches, most of them from second hand dealers, what were these guys thinking? Did they do no homework before they rushed into this? There are highly reputable dealers in all the capital cities that have been around for a long time and earning very good reputations, I've dealt with a few of them with no drama. These guys were just suckers waiting to be ripped off.
lol..Where were all these cultured men warning people two years ago?
You need to do a Public Service Announcement (PSA) once a week until people finally get the message.
and becoming the next Paul Thorpe?
The problem is the real owners will report the watch as stolen. Then the new buyer is going to be screwed.
Funny thing is a watch market is worst place to do dealls, Im often buying and selling antiques, electronic. all kind of stuff that I can make some money on it, and watches are most risky, brutal, angry, fake, non trusty and ugly market from all of them. People are rude and so many scammers between them. I never buy watches for flipping, always for my self and sometimes I help people with my knowledge and many times they didn't say thank you when they know what they need. This is very ugly and specific market infected by worst people.
When is Anthony going to face the Judge?
No idea. A guy called LUS on TH-cam seems to be following up from time to time. I am curious about what will happen next. $5M should be a huge crime…
Asking for cash for significant amounts is an immediate signal of a bad operation- at the very least they are involved in tax avoidance. It’s also known that expensive watches are used for money laundering and even trafficking. People criticise authorised dealers but they offer security and you don’t have to deal with criminal types out to scam whoever they can. This sort of thing only started happening when some people started regarding watches as investments, which they are not.
mazal........says it all. oy
A dude with Arabic tattoos and the sign of Lebanon on his arm ..but goes by jewish name .. 😂 that should be a huge red flag
Book him Danno, shame Shame SHAME😢
Again. Who wants to deal for a time piece like this by a dumpster in the back alley from a guy who just got out jail? Why anyone does business with these charlatans is beyond me.
They prefer to be paid in cash. “No shit”. 😂 Good job commentating without over talking.
I think the next chap for this too happen to will be a certain fella from Belfast area
I hate to say it, but I fear the same. Once the flexing and the flying starts, it just raises red flags. I own my own business and know what travelling like that costs and is there enough money in watch sales to carry all that?
Please let me be wrong!
Possibly, if the pikeys don’t get raided again first
Nico, really ? 🤔
Just fall guys for the real criminals at the top.
People are so gullible
My mother told me : In business - Tatts and/or baseball cap - RUN.
Your mother sounds like a prude
No kidding. I wouldn't leave a Casio in consignment with a guy looking like that.
Yeah because a suit and a tie won’t f* you over …
My mother told me, "A fool and his money are quickly parted".
The most sweeping generalization ever
I'm with you. These youtube watch flippers all seem so shady. And that term "mazal" makes me cringe so hard.
Don't ever buy watches as an investment, buy them to wear! Investments go up & go down, unless you have money to lose think very carefully..
Mazal is all you need to know
the mazal group ! lol
At this point I can't feel sorry for anyone that gets scammed by giving their watches for consignment. FInd yourself a brick and motor store with someone that has been in business for 10-20 years. Stop giving your expensive watches to these johnny come latelys.
🤣🤣A fool and his money - are soon parted.
Didn’t you used to do a regular live show with a chap with similar Tattoos who’s Son was found guilty of a Million dollar watch scam.
I did. I’ve grown up since.
Jamie Thorpe is the criminal. I wonder what happened to this scammer.
Crackpiece gentleman
with a name like "watches are us" you don't really need any other red flags do you?
I’m beginning to think these guys getting ripped off are in on the scam somehow
Tattoos worse than Paul Thorpes!!
I would love to hear Lenny‘s point of view on these pieces of crap.
Spending 100 grand without checking him out a bit stupid
Vulgarians like Nico but at least he seems honest
@@ruststar he doesn’t have an honest bone in his body.
Thanks for the update.
Apparently Ian Tilman fled to Dubai and has been there for some time now.
who told u this mate?
I am in Dubai. If this guy is genuinely in Dubai then it would not be easier to report him to the local authorities who will do their job. Fast and efficiently. Through friends I know a local who deals with deportation of scammers.
The other way to catch that guy is passport renewal as at some point he’ll need it. Yet another easy way to clamp onto someone unless that person goes rogue abroad…
That's a very exclusive Sydney CBD address. No wonder people got hoodwinked with such a High Street location giving them confidence thinking their timepiece can be sold quickly and for a profit by a professional, successful and connected dealer. I agree with our esteemed venetian host Oisin: avoid such geezers. They can often be identified by their heavily tattooed knuckles scraping on the ground behind them and they saunter down the high street, usually dressed in bright Fluro designer garb, often in company with a rotund, short, uncouth and obnoxiously loud man-child screaming into a GoPro.
This guy looks like a complete thug. Who in the world would trust anyone with that kind of money??? Let alone the likes of that “dealer”
mazalllll😂😂 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Tattoos especially on the hands is always a red flag.
Mazal!!!! My friend 😂😂😂
😂
Mazal is a dodgy
🤣😂 That’s mad.
Watches R Us , I imagine it took about 2 minutes to think up that name.
Flexing an AP while sitting at a craps table? Nah, nothing suss. Just another day on Instagram !
Lmao the news posted the wrong picture , that’s not even Ian Tilman 😅
Only Sill and Dill when you have a bareback buyback guarantee like coach offered his clients-changing the way the west coast shops for heavy hitters!
Why do you people keep falling for this shit, P.T. Barnum was right.
Love your review, honest friend. It is a pity that you are not available to review our watch.
You are not being a snob, you are just voicing what many of us think. Handing 40,000 dollars to an individual like that is a huge leap of faith. The true colours of these individuals is being exposed time and time again. ( lets not even mention the right wing elements showing their true colours from other tattooed watch dealers)
I've watched this video multiple times already.
I've watched this video multiple times already.
Really like that gold sub you got on!
All you guys are scammers
whats the matter with having tattoos? does it means criminal for all? so its bogus if seller has tattoos for all watches?
Awful, so shady
Nice video mate 🥃🏌🏽♂️
Obrigado por compartilhar essas informações valiosas.
I'm so impressed with your creativity.
Great channel - as an avid watch admirer, I’m hooked!!!
Vulgariant is a good word, it describes them perfectly. I'm not going to name any names, but some are here on TH-cam too.
I feel connected to you through this video.
Você tem uma maneira cativante de apresentar informações.
Você tem uma maneira cativante de apresentar informações.
This video is top-notch quality.
This video really touched my heart.
What’s being a geezer have to do with criminals?