Honestly, that pales in comparison to the massive balancing disaster the devs wrought that is the Intelligence stat in the Human class This is worse than even Injustice 1 Superman It's gonna be hard to power creep this blunder
@@megabuster3940 Nah, humans would be absolute trash tier if the likes of ants were the same size, the pathetic human intelligence wouldn't even be able to build up culture in such a scenario, humans would be extinct in 5 seconds.
@@quitlife9279 I doubt such towering sizes would be beneficial to ants under the current oxygen levels The poor things would suffocate under their own weight Energy efficiency is a huge part in survival One of the leading theories behind why the Neanderthals became extinct is because they weren't energy efficient enough to live through the ice age
What you said about the Scorpion's low INT stat got me wondering: Intelligence builds are obviously the anthropocene meta. But what was the first build to effectively take advantage of that? I would love a vid about that sometime, of INT specc'd builds through time.
i once had a scorpion as a support class for my human build. would not recommend. their lack of intelligence causes them to eat their children, and they dont have synergy with humans like cats and dogs do. however, they do provide the "center of attention" perk when in the biology class side quest :)
i gotta say it’s nice to see when other youtubers comment something actually interesting instead of just saying “cool vid” expecting to get likes solely because of fan recognition
@@GlitchBugger There are actually many reasons on my animals eat their babies, mostly because of stress, malnutrition, population control, etc. Scorpions only eat their young as a very last resort to survive
I think one thing to keep in mind about many seemingly "weak" builds is that they are much less likely to be nerfed or banned when a patch comes. The reason scorpions have been around so long is because they are resistant to major meta changes, if you build super powerful and "win" the game to the point where you become oppressively dominant you're likely to get the banhammer sooner or later. If you want a really long term experience without to much upset you could do worse than playing a scorpion.
Underrated comment. Manages to explain population rise and decline caused by over performance and over consumption while keeping up the game idea. My hats off to you. =o
It would be quite interesting to see an ant tier list. There are so Many different types of ants to Pick from and Its basically the Ultimate team player Pick second only to humans.
It would be an interesting tier list, yes, since their social hierarchy passes humans and would be really interesting how they would match up against other builds in the meta
Ants are a better team player than humans, in fact almost every eusocial species is, but humans have more individual intelligence which grants them a better technology advancing rate even thought they don’t work that effectively together
The Scorpions were heavily nerfed with the reduced available oxygen patch, and unfortunately Devs decided to nerf them once more by adding the Claw-venom counterbalance, meaning that in order to obtain more powerful venom they should give up claw size and strenght, even then, scorpions can take down builds hundreds or thousands of times their weight if they get a good hit, and the fact that they haven't evolved more sofisticated tools besides their constant nerfs shows how resilient and balanced they truly are, capable of survive the massive expansions and bans that the devs did, they may not be the best build right now but they are absolute masters at adapting with bare minimum changes.
@@user-jf4if6vx9e that won't stop them, the asteroid only made the surface unbearable, the ones that Will die Will be the ones that need high amounts of food to survive, and scorpion isn't one of those animals, the only way to truly erase them is to straight up destroy the entire planet
Scorpions can sometimes score that rare win against a human, and being able to tell stories about that one time you took down the top build makes it all worth it
If I wanted a similar build of similar type, I would probably prefer a "black widow" like spider. Still can down a human, yet feels creepier and cooler to me overall. Of course, scorpions are better in many biomes spiders not so much, but if my goal was a scary to humans, and fun playstyle ... who knows.
@@jacksanity7508 yeah I guess, it might end up like the failing cockroach ban, bedbug ban and mosquito ban. Human mains hate them, want to get rid if them but can't
You gotta appreciate one thing about the scorpions though, they make the game more challenging. See how in every clip of any player vs a scorpion they're forced to try and disable their weapons first before attacking? (unless they can easily one shot them) High level PVP between different species usually involve one player trying to avoid the other's one hit KO move or damage over time effects
Totally agree with this, it is not complicated to win a pvp against a scorpion;it is simple-just disable the tail. But simple doesnt mean easy. As a Crow player, i decently know what to do in the scorpion match up, but in the rare cases i come across it, it is never "easy" and always thrilling. That, if you ask me, is healthy game design and a balanced build
@@LimeyLassen Yeah and it really works into the experience well. I just compare it to the Cats, unnecessary INT stat, so well equipped with weapons, plus stealth plus human supp class.. Out-right unwinnable match up for us, the choices are either to avoid everytime or defend enough. While with scorpions, just like you said, you either play higher or lower than them, and im totally fine with that game design
I had an emperor scorpion as a pet for a few years. His name was Dwayne Johnson. He was an asshole and would always leave one cricket alive just to torment me in my sleep. The way he scurried about the enclosure always creeped me out but I miss him.
My mother named our massive family washing machine the same thing. And our lawnmower is called Jason Momoa (my mower). Everything has names around here for some ungodly reason
Scorpions were actually what got me into this game. I just love the grappler style that the scorpion has. Didn't stop me from switching to snakes though.
I know the feeling, I loved playing dark souls 2 when I started that series, which served as a perfect skillset for the scorpion. Then I got used to Bloodborne and anything that isn't really mobile just feels too slow anymore. I had to switch over to the bird servers, though I do occasionally run my snake alt to troll some particularly snobby bird players from time to time.
Scorpions were the playstyle that I always acknowledged, but never really valued until now. It was only in recent years I realized they're my absolute favorite, and now I just feel like I missed out forever
They're one trick ponies but they can still oneshot top tier builds if caught off guard. Which is saying a lot considering how most D tier builds are esentially harmless for top tiers.
The fact that Scorpions are still viable, even though they were powercrept throughout the history of the game, is impresdive though! Even if their power level is lower tiers.
I was going to say this as well! Perhaps TZ should do a video about which builds from the early meta have stayed viable, I'd be interested to see where the scorpion ranks against some of the others!
Regardless of their power today, you gotta respect that scorpions have been able to keep the same strategy, and remain at least somewhat viable this long!
Thing is as humans, we usually see threats according to their likelihood to kill us. So any venomous enemy with stealth becomes top tier. Only rivaled by big carnivours
vast majority of scorpions don't have a venom that is lethal to humans. Even those that do are only borderline lethal. There are no stand out cases like there are in the Snake and Spider classes.
Intimidation and terror stat is primarily effective only against human builds. Which is cool being the strongest build in the game, but humans aren’t their primary matchup in the desert or arid biomes.
It only works against humans, though. It doesn't work against every other species of larger animal. Humans are irrelevant in this case, because it's other animals that feed on them and sometimes crazy humans. I feel bad for Scorpions, tbh. I want them to get a buff, humans be damned. Some humans builds need to get a taste of true poison, since human mains are usually bullies. -Scorpion Gang
0:02 I just started the video so maybe it gets addressed, but that enemy was NOT "felled." Grasshopper mice are immune to scorpion venom as scorpions are one of their main prey 😅
I love these "Is X OP" videos because the deep dives into iconic species are so interesting! Scorpions obviously catch the eye becuase of their iconic apperance and tail weapon, so it was super cool to learn more about them.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Their a family inside of the arachnid order, not their own order. Sorry if this comes off as rude, I just find arachnids interesting
scorpions specialized into the spider hunting strategy which I feel is a strong anti-meta strategy as spiders as a whole are top tier in the low weight class. The fact that scorpion mains can use their abilities to at least deter the higher weight class top tiers like cats and humans is very telling. I would put them in high C tier personally.
Agreed. Many of the scorpion's unfavorable matchups are against significantly higher weight classes, and while there have been builds that subvert this they're exceedingly difficult to optimize. However, the point about many same-class current builds having puncture resistance and round shells is notable. Personally, they land in a solid mid C tier.
Their only losing match-up in the arthropod meta is ants, which basically every arthropod has a losing match up against. Ants are easily S-tier, IMO, and this puts scorpions in A or B tier. The fact that only specialized MAMMALS and some birds, of all things, take them out is a testament to how OP scorpions are.
I think C is too high. What you say about their spider matchup is true, but in a mid-tier meta so diverse, I think that single niche isn't enough. There isn't enough scorpion players in urban biomes for us to know how well their intimidation strategies work unlike spiders that scare off humans regardless of massive urban playerbase and small sizes. Personally, as a human with low resistance against spider intimidation, scorpions aren't nearly as effective in deterring me. Their appearance seems more spec'd into cool rather than creepy and scary. That being said, they seem very fun to play in the biomes they're usually played in; avoiding most matchups til you can find someone who can lose to your creative kill condition. Perhaps there is certain scorpions that can make it into C if their biome allows them to better avoid bad matchups, vice versa.
@@RipleySawzen i garuntee that even the best scorpion mains would lose hard against almost every crab player and quite a few different beetle builds more times than not
What I find wierdly cool is that the spider build was made to be the opposite of the scorpion build, having almost the complete opposite strengths and weakness despite it's statistical similarity. It think the only drastic differences are in mobility and defense.
I find the rivalry between the spider build and the scorpion build most interesting as you pointed out. Spider builds have ambush hunting and quick attacks compared to the tank head on strategy of scorpion builds. Between similar sized specimens, a face off goes either way.
Wow, I haven't watched your videos for quite a time (I was there in the beginning and watched you take your first big steps) and now I'm pleasently surprised to see that you surpassed 3mil subscribers. Congratulations! And oh my god I was going to reference the documentary you included at 2:35 anyway, I'm happy to see that!
Out here waiting for my “why raccoons are OP” video. I mean come on, they are one of the only animals that have successfully orchestrated a heist, they have thumbs, they have access to the lock-picking skill tree and have enough intelligence to understand the debuffs of poor hygiene.
What are you talking about? Corvids steal shit all the time. Trash pandas may be able to open a garbage bin but if ravens weren't so short lived that their wisdom leveling was nerfed they could easily be second only to humans. You raccoon mains are funny.
Crocodilia have been very well balanced for awhile now I'd say for a good few millenia, they haven't been directly buffed or nerfed since the class select update. But unfortunately due to environmental changes they've been slightly nerfed, but still well balanced.
@@JackJack-vn1ni Excitingly, it turns out that that's not quite true. Dataminers discovered recently that crocodilians haven't remained in one shape for all that time; they just keep *re-evolving* into it. They keep getting balance updates but always end up returning to the tried-and-true.
I remember when I was still rather low level, I nearly stepped on a scorpion player that had snuck into my base. Fortunately my team mate and cousin alerted me and we both retreated while one of our higher level team mates dealt with the scorpion
The one main thing I think is holding scorpions back from being high tier is that they situate themselves somewhere in between a very mobile build and an ambush build. I feel like they would be a lot more successful if they stuck to one of the two and maxed out their stats for just that one.
Thats kinda the thing with them , they have always been succesfull because they are not really specialised in any enviorment or playstyle They can dig climb , run , wrestle , ambush , chase , they have solid armor but they are still quite fast , they can hold their own against much larger players than most insects and spiders , and the tail might not have high accuracy , but once the scorpion is grabbed , it’s sure to deliver a hit Even as far as marchups , they are arguably the best fighters in their weightclass , and because they are hard to crush (to the point where they can’t fight), they have more time to land their own attacks Sure , they can’t stand against animals that are specialised in hunting them , like mongoose , but thats a given A chicken for example ,a pretty weak bird , is capable of defeating even top tier snakes like cobras , Honestly with solid matchups , great versatility , and a couple of exploitable weaknesess , i’d say the average scorpion is low A tier The D tier would be the ones that have big claws , but short tails with weak venom ( the ones you see in almost all the clips seen in the video ), The best , maybe low S tier would be the ones that go all out on the tail demage and armor , like fat tail scorpions , because the usual strategy of crushing the tail is less usefull , the speed and accuracy of tail strikes is greater ,because the claws are too weak to secure a grab , and the danger of being one Shot by the venom is great enough to scare off most creatures from challenging them in the first place
@@andidinu1456 I think despite the Scorpion's versatility, it fails at being a true generalist for one reason, Scorpions aren't omnivores. Even though they have some great match-ups, they never can out-class the ant, the ants don't have the claws, but they are omnivorous and social, and a lot of the best ones also have powerful stingers and venom. For this reason I don't think Scorpions could ever be S tier, if there was a more social and omnivorous Scorpion build that would be S tier. Keep in mind, S tier means not having terrible matchups against anything on your server. Until then, I think Scorpions sit around a B for their weight class.
@@iminumst7827 fair point However ants are OP themselves . They are so dominant that there really is no build in their weightclass that can outmatch them in a fight ,and even larger builds can often do nothing but flee from them . It’s like judging a hyena’s viability based on it’s matchup againt elephants and lions
@@andidinu1456 Not every class needs to win every matchup to be top tier, but to be top tier they need to be able to at least avoid or fend off bad matchups. A hyena's matchup against an Elephant isn't important to a Hyena's ranking because a hyena A) isn't ever hunted by an Elephant and B) Can still eat elephants after they die from other causes because Hyena's are scavengers. Hyena's matchup against Lions is bad not not as bad as you'd think. Scorpion loses a LOT of the matchups that really matter for the scorpion's survival, even to classes that aren't dedicated purely to hunting scorpions such as lizards and birds. Ants do have a couple losing match-ups like Ant-Eaters, but outside of classes purely made to counter ants, most classes, even of a much higher weight class have bad matchups against ants. A scorpion has to get pretty lucky to beat anything slightly above it's weight class, and it loses to animals of a smaller weightclass such as ants. Scorpions in the current meta are B at max.
@@iminumst7827 agreed and in that regard , scorpions do about as well as most other arthropods against ants , scrambling away from the raid as fast as they can , and most often managing to escape unharmed . And even disregarding all that , a bad matchup againt a build in the server isn’t enough to disregard said build from the top tier Again , the snake and bird example : even the most deadly , combat prepared snakes , have terrible matchups against just about every bird and small carnivore ( let alone builds specialised in hunting them like secretary birds , snake eagles, badgers, mongoose , etc) simply because the moveset of those builds happens to be the perfect counter for the snakes moveset , and most snakes aren’t even fast enough to run away Even eusocial insects like ants have specialised predators like anteaters ,pangolins , sloth bears , echidnas, thorny devils ,etc These builds are still S tier , because they overall have it much better than most other builds Coming back to the scorpion , it’s not like they get exterminated constantly by ants , sure , every once in a while the ant raids might catch a scorpion ( they catch just about any sort of animal that can’t outrun them ..) but overall , they are a minor predator , and have little to no effect on the scorpion population Oh also i almost forgot , you mentioned the scorpions lack of omnivory ,and that would be a problem indeed , but since they can go for such long periods without food , it’s not like they ever starve to death , even in deserts
Me and my family claimed a section of the map ruled by a scorpion swarm, we took many months to get rid of them. We were afraid of getting stabbed at night, but in few weeks we learned their behaviour pattern, resulting in instakills for us. Once we located their spawn point, GG was quite easy.
Without human mains tools and pack hunting tactics you'd lose the 1v1 against a build that's maybe the size of your foot. Honestly quite sad that such a cheesy build gets such meta dominance just because of one overtuned stat and nothing else.
DUDE THIS TUNE AT 0:30 I remember this from some wonky e-encyclopedia that my dad brought me on CD's in early 2000. You walked around amazing interactive museum, there was like whole series of those. Amazing memories awaken, thank you.
I remember playing as one of these scorpions not too long ago, I try the digging technique that you suggested and it worked. This little experience gave me nostalgia from when scorpions first came out, being able to one shot early fish players was easy and very resourceful if you could find them although I got attacked by sea scorpion several times glad those things are banned now.
@@Burn_Angel He’s talking about the eurypterid build. They aren’t scorpions, and calling them “sea scorpions” is scientifically inaccurate. They’re a group of arachnids closely related to horseshoe crabs, and didn’t have the iconic stinger that true scorpions have. The largest arthropod to ever exist AND the heaviest arthropod to ever exist were both eurypterids. If you saw the clip of the giant ocean-dwelling scorpion at the beginning of the video, it’s from Walking With Monsters. In that exact episode, that scorpion got attacked by a eurypterid, which was around 2.5 metres long. Hence why he was saying that he’s glad eurypterids were banned: they were dominating the niches now filled by giant predatory fish and mammals
Interesting points and ideas, but i think it would be easier for them if they spec into more mobility and try to use the social perk as packs or swarm, it is a very meta build.
Faster, more social scorpions is probably the way to go for them, you're right. I can see a team of scirpions working to overpower larger opponents this way, and catching up to faster builds this way. That might just make them a top-tier threat again.
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 the idea seems good(about team tactics), but the main problem with it is that many scorpions are cannibals, so they might not see others as teammates, but only as food
That a interesting idea. You would have to invest in guild for this and probably get some points from dot damage to the intelligence star. Better perception would also help.
I mean adult beetles are definitely good to play as, but their incredible vulnerability in larval stage is kind of a setback. They have no defence other than hiding and they get absolutely bodied by many predators and especially parasitoids.
@@matyaskassay4346 yeah The larvae usually try to lay low and go underground or in woods for a safer play style but still get eaten a lot. But the adults are incredibly successful. Accept for those species that spend the majority of their life as juveniles and mainly breed as adults for some reason. But most would do well as adults. Being able to fly while having solid armor is pretty incredible. You get both mobility and defense. Which means their defensive ability is incredibly powerful with armor and evasion. Though many doesn’t have a lot of attack abilities accept for the ones that specialize in this like tiger beetles. The flightless oak darkling have better defense being resistant to the weight of a car crushing it but less mobility Tiger beetles seems really good tho. High attack,solid armor,decent flight ability and the fastest run speed (I think among insects ) which allows immediate high agility, and a non vulnerable and actually aggressive carnivorous juveniles that act as ambush predators. They do have low intelligence and worse sensory ability as sometimes they are unable to process their surroundings while running so they occasionally stop and low hp but that’s basically a given if you wanna play as an insect. Though some species have low stealth, many actually have increadible stealth too.
I love how serious he sounds in his videos, even though talking about the animal kingdom as a game is pretty funny and fun to watch, in addition to being educational
dude watching this shit high would mess with your head so much. if you try to view the world as a simulation then the bigger picture of his videos could be like, idk, maybe we could possibly direct evolution certain ways(i.e. catching up to the "meta") if we were to put these animals in confined situations over a pan-earth society led science experiment spanning the course of millions of generations. We would just have to like stop going to war and doing human nature stuff... oh shit, maybe we evolved consciousness way too soon 🙄👀
This guys channel is the more genius unique was to teach people that can relate to the gaming aspect of his videos, they still get to learn about these amazing animals, this guy is the hardest working, most ingenious TH-camr on well TH-cam.
Skills left out that are HUGE: Parthenogenesis perk (breed at their own) and urban server adaptation. Not all scorp mains have that, but the ones that do, oh boy, they really benefit from it.
this is the first video of yours I have found. Instant subscribe. I have had this idea for nature show narratives for so long and you went so far above and beyond what I could come up with.
@@CrazyYanmega Considering he even mentioned that many mammals that hard counter the scorpion spec into poison/venom resistance, for the precise reason of fighting scorpions? Yeah.
Check out pseudo scorpions, they are the obscure buffed version of the scorpion build, dealing their lethal venom with their pinchers instead of their tail, which they lack. This is way more efficient than venom delivery via a stinger and without a tail you don't have the same easy to nab weak spot of scorpions.
Some scorpions grow so big they don't even need the stinger anymore (Emperor Scorpion is a good example, mofo can cut a giant wasp in half with one of his pincers)
I mean even a single ant suddenly appear near one's hand gonna cause some people skip a breath, modern human have one of lowest intimidation resistance.
To be fair with their lack of natural resistances all forms of damage when caught unaware humans can be extremely fragile so if a scorpion player manages to sneak into the base of a human player they have basically free exp.
Humans are just so used to not feeling threatened by any non-human player, they vastly exaggerate their reaction to even the least amount of threat. The scorpion's ability to one hit KO is certainly scary, but virtually any strategy that's useful to fight and disable a scorpion, a human can put in action - precise attacks to grab and pinch the tail (human opposable thumbs are a wonderful precision tool), armour through tool use (thick, sturdy gloves would already suffice), not to mention outsmarting, outrunning, or simply crushing the scorpion under one's boot. Human-scorpion is actually a completely one sided match up, it's just that humans see a tiny chance of defeat instead of 100% certain victory and that's enough to make them freak out.
Humans have zero armour by default and pretty slow reflexes. If a Sorpion, venemous spider or snake snuck up onto an unprotected part of the human, that could be a game-over.
Neanderthals are below Sapiens due to a less social playstyle, but they're still a near-clone. They would be at exactly the #2 spot in the tier list, right below Sapiens. They still have tool use, language, teaching, and an incredible INT stat, which are the key factors that led modern humans to dominance. There's also the possibility that with prolonged co-existence, the Neanderthal build and the Sapiens build would pool their strategies over time, much like we actually saw during that patch, but to a greater extent. Instead of a 97% Sapiens, 3% Neanderthal mix like in current humans, we might see a mix with a greater fraction of Neanderthal perks.
If you include antelopes and gazelles I could see that being quite the list. Save the bovines like wildebeest and cape buffalo and such for a different list, but the deer like ungulates? Get ready to watch them get bodied by humans, and literally everything else.
I was surprised to see the Grasshopper mouse in the intro to this vid, as I had read into that build recently and it seemed as though it was basically designed to be immune to a scorpion build's venom strikes. Would love to see a video either going over a mouse/rat tier list or a special one for that build in particular.
Scorpions have the rare “suicide” ability, allowing them to restart the game without having to endure unpleasant gameplay sequences such as the immolation quick time event.
@@arjunobulam2653 Scorpions have the option to waste less time playing a bad build and can instantly reset to the character select screen. Other low tier builds without this ability often have to sit through a torturous playthrough before they are allowed to change what character they spawn in as.
Unfortunately that’s just a rumour of an unreleased Easter egg patch that got scrapped by the devs. Scorpions are mostly immune to their own venom, and don’t kill themselves even when threatened with fire. Maybe by speccing into INT they could gain the “existential dread” skill and gain the suicide ability through this, but there’s currently no viable way for them to have the ability now
I was never a scorpion main, when I started playing outside I choose a beetle type class can't quite remember which, but I enjoy learning of other classes
I would put scorpions in C tier because, for the most part, it can avoid some of its bad match ups through its borrowing ability. Birds, snakes, and most lizards aren't able to follow it, and it's way easier to hit something with a stinger if you're both confided underground. And while underground, they aren't exactly finding you anyway. Granted, this isn't perfect as staying near a borrow or underground limits your ability to find prey, and Meerkats, screws, and ants can either dig you up or follow you down anyway and are more then capable of dodging or taking a sting. Overall, Scorpions are probably a bit better than you say, but they definitely could use some buffs or changes. One idea I thought would be cool if they improved their perception and precision and modified their stinger to where they can actually shoot venom much like a spitting cobra. Its viability might be questionable, but it would give them a range attack while also improving their match-up against vertebrates as they can now aim for the eyes or mouth to deliver their vemon rather than trying to peirce. Honestly, it might not be possible or viable, but it would be cool.
That’s right. On top of that, most of the scorpion’s weaknesses described in the video apply to ALL arthropods. Not to mention certain species of scorpion have large crushing claws with weak venom or highly potent venom with weak claws, making their strategies decently varied. There’s a reason they’ve remained unchanged for millions of years. Their strategy is reliable and gets the job done. They’re a solid B-tier.
Larger arthropods would be too dependent on water or extreme oxygenation. Unfortunately, even the giant sea scorpions would be rekt by sharks, crocodiles and other top tier aquatic threats.
Man, it's crazy to think that so many early builds get hard-countered by Intelligence, a once dump-stat. The fact that almost all of Outside's history has seen builds ignore what is now known to be the single most defining Meta ability, makes me wonder if it even WOULD be a top-tier ability if it were taken into consideration earlier. Like, if early meta builds knew they could be countered by Int, and compromised some power to avoid that weakness, maybe Intelligence-based builds would never have found a foothold. Maybe humans would never have gotten past mid-tier status.
Humans were already S-tier even without their intelligence stat. Tierzoo's most famous video on humans talks about this but basically the access to reliable ranged attacks, high numbers and the choice to trade pretty much all armor for unlimited stamina regeneration combine to make a terrifying, if extremely difficult to play, build. Adding max intelligence was was made them the meta-transcending god pick they are now but they were always busted.
@@plasmakitten4261 Even without humans' absurd INT stat. But that vid (probably the best of this channel that itself is possibly the best on TH-cam) started with an assumption of humans STILL having high INT, just not that crazy high. Somewhere along the line of other pack hunters such as wolves.
Some people spend way to much time playing Earth though, like #@#^#!~@$@ spent way to much time min-maxing the humans, it did open up a lot of hidden content like science and technology, but still, the time they spent min-maxing just seems like so much effort, like c'mon, its just a game.
@@plasmakitten4261 it was the combination of the high intelligence stat with other traits like the opposable thumb, and especially bipedalism, that made humans so OP. Many builds have one or sometimes two of these, but the set of all three is truly game breaking. High intelligence stat plus opposable thumbs unlocks tool making (including ranged weapons). Bipedalism (especially with the absurd stamina regeneration) then allows humans to take tools with them when traveling long distances, something other primate builds can't easily do because they're quadrupedal.
I have to say the poor intelligence has to be its biggest weakness, although by being in the desert biomes often, it is difficult for high intelligence builds to live there given the lack of food the intelligence builds need.
Agreed. And usually, the intelligent builds that do develop there only do so because they are originally from other biomes where they first built up the amount of intelligence necessary to be self-sustainable in the desert. Examples: Elephants, humans, desert foxes.
All I remember on the history of scorpions is that they started out in the sea and they went on land temporally. Ever since the Carboniferous era where arthropods got smaller, scorpions kind of stagnated. There still scary but it’s hard to see if they’ve made improvements.
Notably their low food needs are among the features that enable scorpions to dominate (as far as biomass goes) in desert servers. And given if they need to they can simply eat each other, they never have to worry about running out of what little food they need.
It should be noted that not ALL scorpions live within deserts. For instance there are two species that live in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee. That biome is both completely forested and relatively wet.
@@bolbyballinger indeed, there are many tropical and temperate species as well (their diversity is highest in the subtropics). One species is found as high as 18,000 feet in the andes, and there are a variety of arboreal species. It's just that scorpions are notably very successful in deserts.
Broooooo is this the Eye Witness opening theme???? LOLOLOL IT IS!!! Just checked the description. Dude, I remember going to the library as a kid and renting all the VHSs on them. Thanks for the nostalgia.
Would love to see a pathogen tier list. Or at least a parasite one. Pathogens being more than likely the next best builds in the game if the human players can't adapt, which is hilarious since theyre a low INT build. Parasites are interesting as they have strong natural counters and yet can dominate regions with such fast respawn rates. Really interesting topic.
Just found this channel, and wow, to put the animal kingdom in a gaming perspective is a game changer. You could literally teach using this method lol. Great content! Also, does he only talk of animals in general, or does he go to specific species of the same animal?
@@panda5996 There isnt that much super nerdy in this though. Like yes gaming terms are used but they are super common ones that most people could pick up on. This would actually be a really good method for people with learning problems, help them see the same information but in a more fun way.
I'd love to see an actual spin-off game based off of this. I mean, the current price is a whole human soul. Not everyone can afford that. There's already so much information on this game out there that I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually made a spin-off.
@@user-hv6gi9ux6z true. Maybe start with the most basic builds first and only do like 5 subclasses max for the species until more time and money can be put into it
The devs should add a new stat called “potential” that shows the possible strength of a build if it uses certain strategies or works with other players.
It always kinda scares me that technically any animal isn't it's deadliest form but the form that got evolved or passed on. Like imagine if a scorpion that could snap twigs evolving into it's strongest form over many phases.
I'm SO stoked to have recognized this piece. It's from an old TV series from the 90s called Eyewitness. Damn it brings me the best memories. Edit: Actually I'm talking about the one in the beggining. I think you might been talking about the other one right?
Nothing beats the joy I feel when that "new video from TierZoo" notification pops up. Great video as ever! Also, glad to see an Elden Ring opening this time.
6:02 I LOVE this footage. Sand snake eating a scorpion? That’s just awesome. What exactly is that clip from? I’ve never seen it before Another awesome video. I really love these. It’s a creative way to teach people about animals that may never really learn about them elsewhere. Keep it up dude 👍
At the end of his videos, towards the start of the nebula/curiosity ad he usually mentions one or two specific documentaries related to the video that he mentions using clips of. I think about 8:35?
If you want a better build with similar playstyle, I recommend Mantis. It's grappling attack has much better accuracy than scorpion and their hitbox is much smaller. Also, their stealth is very high, so they cannot be detected by larger enemies in most circumstances.
Mantids are highly effective hunters. I would like to mention, however, being some of the largest insects does mean that they need more resources to grow. Would honestly recommend referencing Arachnids instead, since they're usually the better ambush/grappler build, as they have had far more time to perfect their strategy as the updates rolled by.
@@therexyogaming The issue isn't their size, the size of their air intake, its literally the oxygen level itself that changed which things stopped being able to get any larger because not enough oxygen flowing through the harder the heart needs to pump, stress, shorter lifespan which means things can't live long enough to grow that big anymore either way.
I find the "Scaredy-Scorpion" build to be extremely OP. If you invest in the intelligence and stealth skill trees enough, your scorpion learns the move "Play dead", which allows the scorpion to play dead and deal 2.5x damage on a first strike, and leaves the target poisoned .5 times longer. When using this move on animals such as mongooses, it can possibly turn the tide of battle by startling it and giving it time to run away.
I saw an episode of “Infested” where this family’s house was infested with scorpions. It looked like an actual nightmare. At one point, they tried to put on their shoes, and there was a scorpion inside.
Oh my GAWD!!! That is so freaky!!!! (I live in Kansas & one of my friends lived in a log cabin that had scorpions- I spent the night ONCE & heard this weird tapping noise on the wood floor- it turns out the noise was a scorpion running across it!! Terrifying!!
My uncle went to bed and left his pants on a chair and they fell into the floor. He woke up and put them on. Scorpions like to hide in cool damp dark places during the day. So they are attracted to human clothing on the floor due to the dampness from our sweat. Multiple stings before he got his pants off.
I’m glad to see you uploaded again, it feels like ages in between since I can’t stop watching your content! Thanks for putting in the work to teach and entertain us!
You are a genius, first video I watch from you and I loved it. It's good material for middle school and super entertaining for everyone else too. Big up!!!
I find the scorpion build interesting in that, for a build that relies on its venom, it's surprisingly honest. If it can't grapple you, which will be telegraphed in its stance, then it isn't likely to land a sting.
That's a double edged sword tho as this honest yet tricky playstyle makes it a perfect bait n switch for really good pro players but also really toxic bad players. Against players that know the counter the game gets slowed down if you choose to only play with that respect. This same minigame could cut off neutral-learning opportunities for new players since they now have to focus on only whether or not you're going to use the combo. Most of the time you see pros flexing their reads or spammers online using the scorpion strat because it's the only way then know how to win.
It's like a chance attack. There's a 50% chance the land could hit and the poison will wreck the other player, or it misses and the Scorpion main can only use it's speed stat and try to outrun the other main. I main scorpion and it's tough, man. But I respect the build, nonetheless. Waiting for the next patch to get some kind of buff, maybe better grapple or speed? Feels like I'm playing on Insane Mode right now.
Literally never heard of your channel before and this is the first video I watched. You have a great way of gamifying the aspects of reality in a really fun and unique way. Definitely going to watch more and support in the best way I can!
This channel is like when you combine a gaming geek with a biology nerd and you get an absolutely beautiful combination of the two. Perfectly executed.
Surprised to see you place scorpions so low in your tier list. I definitely feel like their good spacing tools, dangerous venom attacks, high intimidation bonuses, and generally solid matchup spread do warrant a higher tier placement. They don't have a lot of awful matchups in their own weight class, and being able to leverage those tools to maintain a lot of positive or even matchups even against players in much higher weight classes is a pretty good defensive trait that lot of other arthropods can't boast. They definitely aren't top tier: the increased popularity of speedy builds with precision- and dexterity-based kits this expansion, plus an assortment of builds investing in passive venom resistance bonuses, definitely keep them from truly punching above their weight, and means they have to mind their matchups. But...D tier? Really? And here I was worrying that you'd place them too high instead. Interesting detail not mentioned in the video: Scorpion players tend to their young for a time, unlike many other arthropods!
He focused on their hard counters, which their aren't even a lot of (intelligence and toxin resistance aren't exactly common), and made them the deciding factor in placing scorpions in D tier. He also didn't put much focus on any traits outside of pvp (probably one of the most resilient creatures out there, barely any environmental hazards bother them at all, better for survival than combat), and glossed over the fact that they are capable of fending off the vast majority of their giant foes, while straight up killing and eating most around their weight class (including small vertebrates). Tier lists are alright, but shouldn't be heavily relied on, if you really want to know how good a character is, you should test it out yourself.
Yeah I think he was a bit harsh. Much of the criticism was based on the fact that scorpions don't do well in fights against much bigger opponents but how many animals match up well against enemies several times their size?
The background music in these videos is so relaxing… meaning that there’s quite the contrast when one hears that chill music only to watch a grasshopper mouse get sideswiped by a scorpion’s stinger and consequently KO’d…
I think that the builds that have been around so long, should automatically start from the c-tier just because they have lasted so many different metas.
@@goodbrainwork META stands for Most Effective Tactics Available. So when people talk about the meta of a game, they're talking about how viable certain strategies are, which can change when balance changes are made or new mechanics are added.
@@duscarasheddinn8033 The thing is, that's what meta gaming is. It's just taking advantage of whatever strategies in a certain game mode are considered the best or OP. People get upset at people for meta gaming because they're seen as being try-hards using the same boring strategy. Using META strategies is considered unoriginal. It's like back in the CoD days when everyone considered camping to be cheap because it requires less skill than other strategies.
I feel like you underrated scorpions a bit. Scorpions combine the fear spider’s give with a deadly weapons which most spiders actually lack, anyone that’s encountered one can tell you about how scared they got, I’d give them a higher C tier
Most scorpions lack venom that would be lethal to human mains, but both spiders and scorpions generally have enough to defeat their prey at least. Also spiders have much more diverse strategies, with many having advanced perception abilities or base building capabilities that far outclass the scorpion, and the ones that wander, in a similar style to scorpion, have much higher speed
But scorpions are still incredible griefing builds in the right niche, and that niche may come soon with the climate change event. The issue is that though they are able to punch well above their weight class by killing humans without proper equipment, they unfortunately cannot spawn in most human-dense servers. So outside of humans that choose to venture into the desert server AND come without venom/pierce resistance equips, they can't really use this potential. However, with the climate change update notes that were leaked, the "desertification" event will convert a lot of grassland biomes into deserts, expanding the spawn area of the scorpions. This will hit already poor areas of the world, such as the West Africa server, especially hard. This buff will help one scorpion build in particular: The death stalker. This name is not a case of misleading names for classes, as it has extremely potent venom. Not to the level of cobras or anything, but enough to have a reasonable fatality rate against humans not in perfect health.
It's not just power-creep, the devs also reduced oxygen levels in later updates. Forcing size reduction in scorpions
Honestly, that pales in comparison to the massive balancing disaster the devs wrought that is the Intelligence stat in the Human class
This is worse than even Injustice 1 Superman
It's gonna be hard to power creep this blunder
@@megabuster3940 Nah, humans would be absolute trash tier if the likes of ants were the same size, the pathetic human intelligence wouldn't even be able to build up culture in such a scenario, humans would be extinct in 5 seconds.
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I doubt such towering sizes would be beneficial to ants under the current oxygen levels
The poor things would suffocate under their own weight
Energy efficiency is a huge part in survival
One of the leading theories behind why the Neanderthals became extinct is because they weren't energy efficient enough to live through the ice age
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What you said about the Scorpion's low INT stat got me wondering: Intelligence builds are obviously the anthropocene meta. But what was the first build to effectively take advantage of that? I would love a vid about that sometime, of INT specc'd builds through time.
Probably small mammal players in the mezazoic era
Its hard rebalancing the stats for intelligence it requires so much that alot of things have to be sacrificed and added
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i once had a scorpion as a support class for my human build. would not recommend. their lack of intelligence causes them to eat their children, and they dont have synergy with humans like cats and dogs do. however, they do provide the "center of attention" perk when in the biology class side quest :)
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i gotta say it’s nice to see when other youtubers comment something actually interesting instead of just saying “cool vid” expecting to get likes solely because of fan recognition
What do you mean by they try to eat children?!?
@@GlitchBugger There are actually many reasons on my animals eat their babies, mostly because of stress, malnutrition, population control, etc. Scorpions only eat their young as a very last resort to survive
I think one thing to keep in mind about many seemingly "weak" builds is that they are much less likely to be nerfed or banned when a patch comes. The reason scorpions have been around so long is because they are resistant to major meta changes, if you build super powerful and "win" the game to the point where you become oppressively dominant you're likely to get the banhammer sooner or later. If you want a really long term experience without to much upset you could do worse than playing a scorpion.
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My guy you have the cringiest fucking 40k name I've ever seen, sit the fuck down you failure of a marine.
Underrated comment.
Manages to explain population rise and decline caused by over performance and over consumption while keeping up the game idea. My hats off to you. =o
@@valkyrie-randgris Game idea? What are you talking about??
Maybe they're not the best in the game, but they have awesome character designs and an iconic weapon
GET OVER HEEERRREEEE
wrong scorpion
Still lovin' yooooouuuuuu
Oops, still the wrong one
Also damage over time or poison damage is really good
He put tarantulas in A tier in his spider video though, scorpions are better adapted than them in every way
@@Xlens22 that was just rating spiders against each other though
It would be quite interesting to see an ant tier list. There are so Many different types of ants to Pick from and Its basically the Ultimate team player Pick second only to humans.
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It would be an interesting tier list, yes, since their social hierarchy passes humans and would be really interesting how they would match up against other builds in the meta
Ants are a better team player than humans, in fact almost every eusocial species is, but humans have more individual intelligence which grants them a better technology advancing rate even thought they don’t work that effectively together
@@sergioibarra3461 but when we do work together greatest things in the world come to be
"Scorpions are a fascinating build that I do hope eventually get buffed."
Yeah, I'm going to pass on that, thanks.
Yeah, I played fallout, gonna also hard pass.
Scorpion but with its claws it can break bones
I think you'll love coconut crabs :)
Yeah, many scorpion players are toxic players too
@@lorebanjo8516 thanks for giving me a fucking nightmare tonight while I sleep 😂
The Scorpions were heavily nerfed with the reduced available oxygen patch, and unfortunately Devs decided to nerf them once more by adding the Claw-venom counterbalance, meaning that in order to obtain more powerful venom they should give up claw size and strenght, even then, scorpions can take down builds hundreds or thousands of times their weight if they get a good hit, and the fact that they haven't evolved more sofisticated tools besides their constant nerfs shows how resilient and balanced they truly are, capable of survive the massive expansions and bans that the devs did, they may not be the best build right now but they are absolute masters at adapting with bare minimum changes.
Absolutely! That’s why D tier is absolutely criminal! Scorpions are B tier at least. 🦂
We can always hope for the Asteroid dlc droping 😅
@@user-jf4if6vx9e that won't stop them, the asteroid only made the surface unbearable, the ones that Will die Will be the ones that need high amounts of food to survive, and scorpion isn't one of those animals, the only way to truly erase them is to straight up destroy the entire planet
@@Omarciyo-mn9xl i meant it as in new content :D
Hope they give a small buff next update.
One of the few animals that have perfected the shoe biome. Every wild scorpion I've ever encountered was inside a shoe.
Scary sheet.
Forbidden house
How many have yo encountered? 2?
It certainly quite alright
@@bt70a9 6. 4 while camping/hiking and 2 hiding in work boots in my friends garage. All in footwear, scorpions got drip.
This video really got me nostalgic for the old sea scorpion days back in the devonian patch. Such a fun tool kit. Never should have been banned.
It is a crime that sea scorpions are banned
You sure about that, I'd think you'd change your mind if you had an encounter with one
@@Illegal0Insanity They really weren't that bad. Not our fault no one ever wants to learn the matchup.
That’s why I love the lobster experience so much. To be fair, it’s definitely just nostalgia bait by the devs though
Always wished I played the game back then
Scorpions are definitely one of the coolest builds. I also really like it because it is so off-meta nowadays
Gotta agree, such a unique build.
Acting male! What a pleasant surprise to see you watching tierzoo. You are another of my favorite TH-camrs :) (Ps Halo kicks COD’s ass)
Show me yo moves
Ok we get it everything's a fucking video game lol
It’s a good build in the game
Scorpions can sometimes score that rare win against a human, and being able to tell stories about that one time you took down the top build makes it all worth it
The Deadly Creatures build.
If I wanted a similar build of similar type, I would probably prefer a "black widow" like spider. Still can down a human, yet feels creepier and cooler to me overall. Of course, scorpions are better in many biomes spiders not so much, but if my goal was a scary to humans, and fun playstyle ... who knows.
They should be careful before the human mains decided to ban scorpions themselves via extermination
@@pencilcase8068there are some builds that humans can’t ban tbh. Scorpions are one of them
@@jacksanity7508 yeah I guess, it might end up like the failing cockroach ban, bedbug ban and mosquito ban. Human mains hate them, want to get rid if them but can't
You gotta appreciate one thing about the scorpions though, they make the game more challenging.
See how in every clip of any player vs a scorpion they're forced to try and disable their weapons first before attacking? (unless they can easily one shot them)
High level PVP between different species usually involve one player trying to avoid the other's one hit KO move or damage over time effects
scorpions are noob killers
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Totally agree with this, it is not complicated to win a pvp against a scorpion;it is simple-just disable the tail. But simple doesnt mean easy. As a Crow player, i decently know what to do in the scorpion match up, but in the rare cases i come across it, it is never "easy" and always thrilling. That, if you ask me, is healthy game design and a balanced build
They're a gatekeeper build. They're not the best, but you need to have a plan or you can't get past them.
@@LimeyLassen Yeah and it really works into the experience well. I just compare it to the Cats, unnecessary INT stat, so well equipped with weapons, plus stealth plus human supp class.. Out-right unwinnable match up for us, the choices are either to avoid everytime or defend enough. While with scorpions, just like you said, you either play higher or lower than them, and im totally fine with that game design
I had an emperor scorpion as a pet for a few years. His name was Dwayne Johnson. He was an asshole and would always leave one cricket alive just to torment me in my sleep. The way he scurried about the enclosure always creeped me out but I miss him.
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My mother named our massive family washing machine the same thing. And our lawnmower is called Jason Momoa (my mower). Everything has names around here for some ungodly reason
I remember seeing a scorpion in my garage as a kid and was more scared than when I saw a cougar on a hiking trail. OP fur sure
lmao
You should 100% be more scared of a cougar.. especially as a kid
Cougars litrelly hunt children I'm pretty sure a cougar is 1,000,00 X worse and they are way faster and stronger than you with sharp claws and teeth
@@Ryzeex. as long as you’re with other people you should be fine
dude the cougar was much more cause for concern
Scorpions were actually what got me into this game. I just love the grappler style that the scorpion has. Didn't stop me from switching to snakes though.
I know the feeling, I loved playing dark souls 2 when I started that series, which served as a perfect skillset for the scorpion. Then I got used to Bloodborne and anything that isn't really mobile just feels too slow anymore. I had to switch over to the bird servers, though I do occasionally run my snake alt to troll some particularly snobby bird players from time to time.
Scorpions were the playstyle that I always acknowledged, but never really valued until now. It was only in recent years I realized they're my absolute favorite, and now I just feel like I missed out forever
I think these videos on lightweight classes are really cool as they are often underrated or not well understood
True so true
Low tiers are always interesting, because any time they have meta relevance, it's because they do something unorthodox.
@@nyon7209 thats true
They're one trick ponies but they can still oneshot top tier builds if caught off guard.
Which is saying a lot considering how most D tier builds are esentially harmless for top tiers.
I want to see this too.Do low tier in reverse & see who is the best at being low tier. My bet is the panda or the koala.
The fact that Scorpions are still viable, even though they were powercrept throughout the history of the game, is impresdive though!
Even if their power level is lower tiers.
I was going to say this as well! Perhaps TZ should do a video about which builds from the early meta have stayed viable, I'd be interested to see where the scorpion ranks against some of the others!
@@AnimeSunglasses sharks still killing it
@@adamfuller5640 Yes! You get it!
@@adamfuller5640 Also crocodiles/alligators.
They were the first land predators, sucks they are so restricted now.
Regardless of their power today, you gotta respect that scorpions have been able to keep the same strategy, and remain at least somewhat viable this long!
If you want to try the same strategy, check out shark mains and alligator mains!
@@Nico42048 what if they have aquaphobia
They have been doing the same strat for at least 488 M.a, gotta respect the dedication.
You forget the scorpion's infamous suicide attack against amphibians in the river biome
Thing is as humans, we usually see threats according to their likelihood to kill us.
So any venomous enemy with stealth becomes top tier. Only rivaled by big carnivours
vast majority of scorpions don't have a venom that is lethal to humans. Even those that do are only borderline lethal. There are no stand out cases like there are in the Snake and Spider classes.
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That's nice. But I'm sure it's still worse than being attacked by a cat or something
@@16m49x3 depends on the size of the cat :)
@@caseyb1346 rawr
@@16m49x3 :3
Oh no please, don't ever buff the scorpions, their terror stat, although completely ignored in this video is amongst the higher of the specs.
yes, even though they've long been power crept, their intimidation effect is still surprisingly potent against the overpowered human build.
I was waiting for the intimidation and terror buffs too 😅🤦🏾♀️😆
Intimidation and terror stat is primarily effective only against human builds. Which is cool being the strongest build in the game, but humans aren’t their primary matchup in the desert or arid biomes.
It only works against humans, though. It doesn't work against every other species of larger animal. Humans are irrelevant in this case, because it's other animals that feed on them and sometimes crazy humans. I feel bad for Scorpions, tbh. I want them to get a buff, humans be damned. Some humans builds need to get a taste of true poison, since human mains are usually bullies.
-Scorpion Gang
terror stats are only effective on intelligent builds like humans.
Fun fact, some fossil scorpions in the paleozoic actually did have compound eyes
fossils? you mean glitches where a player was too slow to decompose and glitches under the ground after the terraim regeneration passed it?
How do I find the fossil Scorpions in the game I’m on level 27?
he meant the patch notes.
they used to have compound eyes yes, but then they slowly evolved to not.
@@TRUMP-for-president-2024 He have human archeologist sub-classes i think
Why would they spec out of such good perception/targeting abilities? Genuinely curious
0:02 I just started the video so maybe it gets addressed, but that enemy was NOT "felled." Grasshopper mice are immune to scorpion venom as scorpions are one of their main prey 😅
I love these "Is X OP" videos because the deep dives into iconic species are so interesting! Scorpions obviously catch the eye becuase of their iconic apperance and tail weapon, so it was super cool to learn more about them.
unironically, the only way to teach me is by making it like a game. i learn so much. i feel sad when this vids ends cause its too good
I’m pretty sure scorpions are an order, not a species. His range of animals varies when talking about “Is X OP?”
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Their a family inside of the arachnid order, not their own order. Sorry if this comes off as rude, I just find arachnids interesting
@@tortoiselover7215 No. Scorpions are an order, arachnids themselves are a CLASS. A whole tier above order.
Scorpions are arachnids reply section.
scorpions specialized into the spider hunting strategy which I feel is a strong anti-meta strategy as spiders as a whole are top tier in the low weight class. The fact that scorpion mains can use their abilities to at least deter the higher weight class top tiers like cats and humans is very telling. I would put them in high C tier personally.
Agreed. Many of the scorpion's unfavorable matchups are against significantly higher weight classes, and while there have been builds that subvert this they're exceedingly difficult to optimize. However, the point about many same-class current builds having puncture resistance and round shells is notable. Personally, they land in a solid mid C tier.
Their only losing match-up in the arthropod meta is ants, which basically every arthropod has a losing match up against. Ants are easily S-tier, IMO, and this puts scorpions in A or B tier. The fact that only specialized MAMMALS and some birds, of all things, take them out is a testament to how OP scorpions are.
I think C is too high. What you say about their spider matchup is true, but in a mid-tier meta so diverse, I think that single niche isn't enough. There isn't enough scorpion players in urban biomes for us to know how well their intimidation strategies work unlike spiders that scare off humans regardless of massive urban playerbase and small sizes. Personally, as a human with low resistance against spider intimidation, scorpions aren't nearly as effective in deterring me. Their appearance seems more spec'd into cool rather than creepy and scary. That being said, they seem very fun to play in the biomes they're usually played in; avoiding most matchups til you can find someone who can lose to your creative kill condition. Perhaps there is certain scorpions that can make it into C if their biome allows them to better avoid bad matchups, vice versa.
I agree. They can hold their breath underwater for 6 days & can go without eating for 12 months. That puts them in low C I think.
@@RipleySawzen i garuntee that even the best scorpion mains would lose hard against almost every crab player and quite a few different beetle builds more times than not
I really liked the segment you added this time about how they could be more viable. I'd love to see that in more videos!
The fact that scorpions have lasted up into the current meta is not to be overlooked.
What I find wierdly cool is that the spider build was made to be the opposite of the scorpion build, having almost the complete opposite strengths and weakness despite it's statistical similarity. It think the only drastic differences are in mobility and defense.
I find the rivalry between the spider build and the scorpion build most interesting as you pointed out. Spider builds have ambush hunting and quick attacks compared to the tank head on strategy of scorpion builds. Between similar sized specimens, a face off goes either way.
It’s certainly quite alright
I believe the devs did this on purpose. They wanted to design an insect counter to spider builds that still had a somewhat decent matchup
Also because they are kinda closely related or at least are both arachnids which would make you think they’d be more similar
@@williamcurtis2145 True, I was more referring to how they are played.
Only villains spawn in as Scorpion, but at least their design is cool
Fancy seeing you here.
Maybe I am a villain
Exactly what mewnimilitary42 said
Perhaps, I don't want to be the hero anymore
*looks over at Scorpia from SPOP*
At least there is one exception to it.
Wow, I haven't watched your videos for quite a time (I was there in the beginning and watched you take your first big steps) and now I'm pleasently surprised to see that you surpassed 3mil subscribers. Congratulations! And oh my god I was going to reference the documentary you included at 2:35 anyway, I'm happy to see that!
The walking with series is really good, I've watched it so many times.
This has got to be one of the highest quality channels ive come across.
Videos are put together extreemly well. Entertaining, informative, love it!
Out here waiting for my “why raccoons are OP” video. I mean come on, they are one of the only animals that have successfully orchestrated a heist, they have thumbs, they have access to the lock-picking skill tree and have enough intelligence to understand the debuffs of poor hygiene.
They're absolutely S-tier for urban survival servers
Yeah, racoons really need a nerf, but so do us humans.
I'd recommend checking out the 'city animal tier list' where that was brought up- th-cam.com/video/X0KOEd34Mb8/w-d-xo.html
Raccoons are op
What are you talking about? Corvids steal shit all the time. Trash pandas may be able to open a garbage bin but if ravens weren't so short lived that their wisdom leveling was nerfed they could easily be second only to humans. You raccoon mains are funny.
I'd love to see a retrospective of a particular class patch by patch. Just think of running through the wild ups and downs of crocodilia, for example.
Or amphibians!
Crocodilia have been very well balanced for awhile now I'd say for a good few millenia, they haven't been directly buffed or nerfed since the class select update. But unfortunately due to environmental changes they've been slightly nerfed, but still well balanced.
@@JackJack-vn1ni Excitingly, it turns out that that's not quite true. Dataminers discovered recently that crocodilians haven't remained in one shape for all that time; they just keep *re-evolving* into it. They keep getting balance updates but always end up returning to the tried-and-true.
@@clockworkkirlia7475 That's how you know a strategy is top-tier.
I remember when I was still rather low level, I nearly stepped on a scorpion player that had snuck into my base. Fortunately my team mate and cousin alerted me and we both retreated while one of our higher level team mates dealt with the scorpion
Should have called Sub-Zero.
This is why I only play on the British Isles servers.
@@hens0w ew bri ish human player
@@USELESSDCK ikr? Their tea item buffs them too much! Bri ish class needs nerf!
@@xedrikangeloarizapa4021 you're just jealous
The Green Scorpion disapproves of the tier placement.
The one main thing I think is holding scorpions back from being high tier is that they situate themselves somewhere in between a very mobile build and an ambush build. I feel like they would be a lot more successful if they stuck to one of the two and maxed out their stats for just that one.
Thats kinda the thing with them , they have always been succesfull because they are not really specialised in any enviorment or playstyle
They can dig climb , run , wrestle , ambush , chase , they have solid armor but they are still quite fast , they can hold their own against much larger players than most insects and spiders , and the tail might not have high accuracy , but once the scorpion is grabbed , it’s sure to deliver a hit
Even as far as marchups , they are arguably the best fighters in their weightclass , and because they are hard to crush (to the point where they can’t fight), they have more time to land their own attacks
Sure , they can’t stand against animals that are specialised in hunting them , like mongoose , but thats a given
A chicken for example ,a pretty weak bird , is capable of defeating even top tier snakes like cobras ,
Honestly with solid matchups , great versatility , and a couple of exploitable weaknesess , i’d say the average scorpion is low A tier
The D tier would be the ones that have big claws , but short tails with weak venom ( the ones you see in almost all the clips seen in the video ),
The best , maybe low S tier would be the ones that go all out on the tail demage and armor , like fat tail scorpions , because the usual strategy of crushing the tail is less usefull , the speed and accuracy of tail strikes is greater ,because the claws are too weak to secure a grab , and the danger of being one Shot by the venom is great enough to scare off most creatures from challenging them in the first place
@@andidinu1456 I think despite the Scorpion's versatility, it fails at being a true generalist for one reason, Scorpions aren't omnivores. Even though they have some great match-ups, they never can out-class the ant, the ants don't have the claws, but they are omnivorous and social, and a lot of the best ones also have powerful stingers and venom. For this reason I don't think Scorpions could ever be S tier, if there was a more social and omnivorous Scorpion build that would be S tier. Keep in mind, S tier means not having terrible matchups against anything on your server. Until then, I think Scorpions sit around a B for their weight class.
@@iminumst7827 fair point
However ants are OP themselves . They are so dominant that there really is no build in their weightclass that can outmatch them in a fight ,and even larger builds can often do nothing but flee from them . It’s like judging a hyena’s viability based on it’s matchup againt elephants and lions
@@andidinu1456 Not every class needs to win every matchup to be top tier, but to be top tier they need to be able to at least avoid or fend off bad matchups. A hyena's matchup against an Elephant isn't important to a Hyena's ranking because a hyena A) isn't ever hunted by an Elephant and B) Can still eat elephants after they die from other causes because Hyena's are scavengers. Hyena's matchup against Lions is bad not not as bad as you'd think.
Scorpion loses a LOT of the matchups that really matter for the scorpion's survival, even to classes that aren't dedicated purely to hunting scorpions such as lizards and birds. Ants do have a couple losing match-ups like Ant-Eaters, but outside of classes purely made to counter ants, most classes, even of a much higher weight class have bad matchups against ants. A scorpion has to get pretty lucky to beat anything slightly above it's weight class, and it loses to animals of a smaller weightclass such as ants. Scorpions in the current meta are B at max.
@@iminumst7827 agreed
and in that regard , scorpions do about as well as most other arthropods against ants , scrambling away from the raid as fast as they can , and most often managing to escape unharmed . And even disregarding all that , a bad matchup againt a build in the server isn’t enough to disregard said build from the top tier
Again , the snake and bird example : even the most deadly , combat prepared snakes , have terrible matchups against just about every bird and small carnivore ( let alone builds specialised in hunting them like secretary birds , snake eagles, badgers, mongoose , etc) simply because the moveset of those builds happens to be the perfect counter for the snakes moveset , and most snakes aren’t even fast enough to run away
Even eusocial insects like ants have specialised predators like anteaters ,pangolins , sloth bears , echidnas, thorny devils ,etc
These builds are still S tier , because they overall have it much better than most other builds
Coming back to the scorpion , it’s not like they get exterminated constantly by ants , sure , every once in a while the ant raids might catch a scorpion ( they catch just about any sort of animal that can’t outrun them ..) but overall , they are a minor predator , and have little to no effect on the scorpion population
Oh also i almost forgot , you mentioned the scorpions lack of omnivory ,and that would be a problem indeed , but since they can go for such long periods without food , it’s not like they ever starve to death , even in deserts
Given how freaky they're often depicted in media, especially when transformed into giant monsters, it's nice to see scorpions get absolutely bodied
I kinda enjoy seeing monkeys and squirrels dominate other animals
Iv'e been stung by one in Texas, about as painful as a bee sting
@@wilcowen6284 in fights... right?
*looks up scorpion vs frog*
@@lunaticcultist3764 yes
Me and my family claimed a section of the map ruled by a scorpion swarm, we took many months to get rid of them. We were afraid of getting stabbed at night, but in few weeks we learned their behaviour pattern, resulting in instakills for us. Once we located their spawn point, GG was quite easy.
Human main I'm guessing? if so, that's typically how things go when anyone finds themselves pitted against humans.
@@gingermcgingin4106 I follow the meta!
@@girdielbohmer2148 Big W
@@girdielbohmer2148 meta slave
Without human mains tools and pack hunting tactics you'd lose the 1v1 against a build that's maybe the size of your foot. Honestly quite sad that such a cheesy build gets such meta dominance just because of one overtuned stat and nothing else.
Here's a suggestion for a video like this, if you haven't already done one: Honey Badgers. They're kind of crazy, with how tough they are.
DUDE THIS TUNE AT 0:30 I remember this from some wonky e-encyclopedia that my dad brought me on CD's in early 2000. You walked around amazing interactive museum, there was like whole series of those. Amazing memories awaken, thank you.
Yup, I had that same game. It was called dinosaur hunter. You probably got it from a scholastic book fair when you were in elementary school!
I remember playing as one of these scorpions not too long ago, I try the digging technique that you suggested and it worked. This little experience gave me nostalgia from when scorpions first came out, being able to one shot early fish players was easy and very resourceful if you could find them although I got attacked by sea scorpion several times glad those things are banned now.
There are some sea scorpion species still kicking out there though.
@@Burn_Angel Seriously, I’m pretty sure they’re using a script. When will the devs patch it? Who knows.
@@Burn_Angel He’s talking about the eurypterid build. They aren’t scorpions, and calling them “sea scorpions” is scientifically inaccurate. They’re a group of arachnids closely related to horseshoe crabs, and didn’t have the iconic stinger that true scorpions have. The largest arthropod to ever exist AND the heaviest arthropod to ever exist were both eurypterids. If you saw the clip of the giant ocean-dwelling scorpion at the beginning of the video, it’s from Walking With Monsters. In that exact episode, that scorpion got attacked by a eurypterid, which was around 2.5 metres long. Hence why he was saying that he’s glad eurypterids were banned: they were dominating the niches now filled by giant predatory fish and mammals
Is this a game lol?
@@justxaine.3544 yeah, it's called Outside
Interesting points and ideas, but i think it would be easier for them if they spec into more mobility and try to use the social perk as packs or swarm, it is a very meta build.
They could just go coconut crab sized and start hunting larger prey kek
Faster, more social scorpions is probably the way to go for them, you're right. I can see a team of scirpions working to overpower larger opponents this way, and catching up to faster builds this way. That might just make them a top-tier threat again.
@@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789 the idea seems good(about team tactics), but the main problem with it is that many scorpions are cannibals, so they might not see others as teammates, but only as food
@@d22268 hmm.... good point. Do you think an intelligence buff would help with that?
That a interesting idea.
You would have to invest in guild for this and probably get some points from dot damage to the intelligence star.
Better perception would also help.
As an avid gamer for the last 30 years, this channel is ridiculous. And I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work brother. 🍻
We need a “are beetle op” video
Beetles are so successful and it would be cool for us to explore why
True, rhino beetles are hilarious
Just watch this, they rival raiden
th-cam.com/video/Xx1YkxJ6lWQ/w-d-xo.html
Pretty good I'd say!
THE RADIANCE
I mean adult beetles are definitely good to play as, but their incredible vulnerability in larval stage is kind of a setback. They have no defence other than hiding and they get absolutely bodied by many predators and especially parasitoids.
@@matyaskassay4346 they’re the largest class ever though, so they must be doing something right.
@@matyaskassay4346 yeah
The larvae usually try to lay low and go underground or in woods for a safer play style but still get eaten a lot. But the adults are incredibly successful.
Accept for those species that spend the majority of their life as juveniles and mainly breed as adults for some reason. But most would do well as adults.
Being able to fly while having solid armor is pretty incredible. You get both mobility and defense. Which means their defensive ability is incredibly powerful with armor and evasion. Though many doesn’t have a lot of attack abilities accept for the ones that specialize in this like tiger beetles.
The flightless oak darkling have better defense being resistant to the weight of a car crushing it but less mobility
Tiger beetles seems really good tho. High attack,solid armor,decent flight ability and the fastest run speed (I think among insects ) which allows immediate high agility, and a non vulnerable and actually aggressive carnivorous juveniles that act as ambush predators.
They do have low intelligence and worse sensory ability as sometimes they are unable to process their surroundings while running so they occasionally stop and low hp but that’s basically a given if you wanna play as an insect. Though some species have low stealth, many actually have increadible stealth too.
I love how serious he sounds in his videos, even though talking about the animal kingdom as a game is pretty funny and fun to watch, in addition to being educational
thank u captain obvious
I know, man. He sounded like an actual fuckin' commentator at an E3 match.🤣
dude watching this shit high would mess with your head so much. if you try to view the world as a simulation then the bigger picture of his videos could be like, idk, maybe we could possibly direct evolution certain ways(i.e. catching up to the "meta") if we were to put these animals in confined situations over a pan-earth society led science experiment spanning the course of millions of generations. We would just have to like stop going to war and doing human nature stuff... oh shit, maybe we evolved consciousness way too soon 🙄👀
This guys channel is the more genius unique was to teach people that can relate to the gaming aspect of his videos, they still get to learn about these amazing animals, this guy is the hardest working, most ingenious TH-camr on well TH-cam.
What are you talking about? It IS a game 🤔
Skills left out that are HUGE:
Parthenogenesis perk (breed at their own) and urban server adaptation. Not all scorp mains have that, but the ones that do, oh boy, they really benefit from it.
When your natural habitat is so desolate, you evolve to mate yourself. -_-'
What is it
@@rjlangaman4741
The ability to reproduce without a mate. Like Mother Mary.
@@Graphomite saint mary scorpion main confirmed
Don't forget some species can squirt venom like a spitting cobra. I know for a fact that emperor and desert hairy scorpions can, I've seen it.
this is the first video of yours I have found. Instant subscribe. I have had this idea for nature show narratives for so long and you went so far above and beyond what I could come up with.
The mice shown in most of these clips fighting scorpions are grasshopper mice, which are actually immune to scorpion venom to an incredible degree.
They're pretty famous for hunting scorpions and centipedes. It's a bit odd that TierZoo missed this.
@@CrazyYanmega Considering he even mentioned that many mammals that hard counter the scorpion spec into poison/venom resistance, for the precise reason of fighting scorpions? Yeah.
I think the clip he used just looked really cool so he decided to take artistic liberties, doubt it was a blunder honestly
Aren’t grasshopper mice also vicious cannibal mice?
@@Hyper_Drud * adorable vicious cannibal mice
those lil pixel animation loops improve with every video and they give your videos always that extra personality. love em!
Check out pseudo scorpions, they are the obscure buffed version of the scorpion build, dealing their lethal venom with their pinchers instead of their tail, which they lack. This is way more efficient than venom delivery via a stinger and without a tail you don't have the same easy to nab weak spot of scorpions.
Hm, heard that they deliver venom from their pedipalps rather than their bite
@@sirduckoufthenorth Oops yeah that's correct. I fixed it
Some scorpions grow so big they don't even need the stinger anymore (Emperor Scorpion is a good example, mofo can cut a giant wasp in half with one of his pincers)
Vinegaroons?
They are great but they are very tiny
You turned this into a video game and it just got 10x more interesting.
you also have to remember they have high intimidation stat. I never saw a human build not being terrified of a Scorpion player
humans can be intimidated by virtually any large insect though
I mean even a single ant suddenly appear near one's hand gonna cause some people skip a breath, modern human have one of lowest intimidation resistance.
To be fair with their lack of natural resistances all forms of damage when caught unaware humans can be extremely fragile so if a scorpion player manages to sneak into the base of a human player they have basically free exp.
Humans are just so used to not feeling threatened by any non-human player, they vastly exaggerate their reaction to even the least amount of threat. The scorpion's ability to one hit KO is certainly scary, but virtually any strategy that's useful to fight and disable a scorpion, a human can put in action - precise attacks to grab and pinch the tail (human opposable thumbs are a wonderful precision tool), armour through tool use (thick, sturdy gloves would already suffice), not to mention outsmarting, outrunning, or simply crushing the scorpion under one's boot. Human-scorpion is actually a completely one sided match up, it's just that humans see a tiny chance of defeat instead of 100% certain victory and that's enough to make them freak out.
Humans have zero armour by default and pretty slow reflexes. If a Sorpion, venemous spider or snake snuck up onto an unprotected part of the human, that could be a game-over.
Can you make a tier list of the deer faction?
Also, where would you place the Neanderthal faction if the devs re-added them?
Requesting a...deer list?
Mooses are dev high A tier!
@@phexchen It's MEESE!
Neanderthals are below Sapiens due to a less social playstyle, but they're still a near-clone. They would be at exactly the #2 spot in the tier list, right below Sapiens. They still have tool use, language, teaching, and an incredible INT stat, which are the key factors that led modern humans to dominance.
There's also the possibility that with prolonged co-existence, the Neanderthal build and the Sapiens build would pool their strategies over time, much like we actually saw during that patch, but to a greater extent. Instead of a 97% Sapiens, 3% Neanderthal mix like in current humans, we might see a mix with a greater fraction of Neanderthal perks.
If you include antelopes and gazelles I could see that being quite the list. Save the bovines like wildebeest and cape buffalo and such for a different list, but the deer like ungulates? Get ready to watch them get bodied by humans, and literally everything else.
I was surprised to see the Grasshopper mouse in the intro to this vid, as I had read into that build recently and it seemed as though it was basically designed to be immune to a scorpion build's venom strikes. Would love to see a video either going over a mouse/rat tier list or a special one for that build in particular.
I love the detail that the terrestrial server wasn't an update but dlc
Scorpions have the rare “suicide” ability, allowing them to restart the game without having to endure unpleasant gameplay sequences such as the immolation quick time event.
how does having that ability advantage them
@@arjunobulam2653 Scorpions have the option to waste less time playing a bad build and can instantly reset to the character select screen. Other low tier builds without this ability often have to sit through a torturous playthrough before they are allowed to change what character they spawn in as.
@@erwinli6962 That benefits the scorpion player base as a whole, but doesn't benefit the individual at all.
Unfortunately that’s just a rumour of an unreleased Easter egg patch that got scrapped by the devs. Scorpions are mostly immune to their own venom, and don’t kill themselves even when threatened with fire. Maybe by speccing into INT they could gain the “existential dread” skill and gain the suicide ability through this, but there’s currently no viable way for them to have the ability now
They also don’t have to see the replays of their death/ death messages
I was never a scorpion main, when I started playing outside I choose a beetle type class can't quite remember which, but I enjoy learning of other classes
Your a human class now cool
i myself started as a squid main but after the exodus from the deep dlc there are many squid mains left
TierZoo: "Nonetheless, Scorpions are a fascinating build that I hope eventually get buffed"
Fallout series: Hold my stinger.
I would put scorpions in C tier because, for the most part, it can avoid some of its bad match ups through its borrowing ability. Birds, snakes, and most lizards aren't able to follow it, and it's way easier to hit something with a stinger if you're both confided underground. And while underground, they aren't exactly finding you anyway.
Granted, this isn't perfect as staying near a borrow or underground limits your ability to find prey, and Meerkats, screws, and ants can either dig you up or follow you down anyway and are more then capable of dodging or taking a sting.
Overall, Scorpions are probably a bit better than you say, but they definitely could use some buffs or changes. One idea I thought would be cool if they improved their perception and precision and modified their stinger to where they can actually shoot venom much like a spitting cobra. Its viability might be questionable, but it would give them a range attack while also improving their match-up against vertebrates as they can now aim for the eyes or mouth to deliver their vemon rather than trying to peirce. Honestly, it might not be possible or viable, but it would be cool.
Also they're nocturnal, so a lot of the matchups can be avoided for that reason too
That’s right. On top of that, most of the scorpion’s weaknesses described in the video apply to ALL arthropods. Not to mention certain species of scorpion have large crushing claws with weak venom or highly potent venom with weak claws, making their strategies decently varied.
There’s a reason they’ve remained unchanged for millions of years. Their strategy is reliable and gets the job done. They’re a solid B-tier.
Not gonna lie the scorpion class got a lot goin for them but the fact that if they lose their stinger they can’t poop is just hilarious to me
mind you their biggest weakness is their size that got nerfed hard
we dont see them lose much in their own weight class other than vs swarms and tanks
@@porolinio true but thing is many of the builds in their weight class are tanks or swarm builds
Larger arthropods would be too dependent on water or extreme oxygenation. Unfortunately, even the giant sea scorpions would be rekt by sharks, crocodiles and other top tier aquatic threats.
i'd love to see a video on Anteaters, they're pretty OP, being able to defend themselves from Jaguars and all that.
Their T-pose tho😳😳
Damn it only just begun and it's noticable how the editing is great in this one, lots of efforts it's neat
man u reminded me summer is creeping in and scorpions might spawn in my house, im paranoid now
Man, it's crazy to think that so many early builds get hard-countered by Intelligence, a once dump-stat. The fact that almost all of Outside's history has seen builds ignore what is now known to be the single most defining Meta ability, makes me wonder if it even WOULD be a top-tier ability if it were taken into consideration earlier.
Like, if early meta builds knew they could be countered by Int, and compromised some power to avoid that weakness, maybe Intelligence-based builds would never have found a foothold. Maybe humans would never have gotten past mid-tier status.
Humans were already S-tier even without their intelligence stat. Tierzoo's most famous video on humans talks about this but basically the access to reliable ranged attacks, high numbers and the choice to trade pretty much all armor for unlimited stamina regeneration combine to make a terrifying, if extremely difficult to play, build. Adding max intelligence was was made them the meta-transcending god pick they are now but they were always busted.
@@plasmakitten4261 Even without humans' absurd INT stat. But that vid (probably the best of this channel that itself is possibly the best on TH-cam) started with an assumption of humans STILL having high INT, just not that crazy high. Somewhere along the line of other pack hunters such as wolves.
Some people spend way to much time playing Earth though, like #@#^#!~@$@ spent way to much time min-maxing the humans, it did open up a lot of hidden content like science and technology, but still, the time they spent min-maxing just seems like so much effort, like c'mon, its just a game.
@@plasmakitten4261 it was the combination of the high intelligence stat with other traits like the opposable thumb, and especially bipedalism, that made humans so OP. Many builds have one or sometimes two of these, but the set of all three is truly game breaking. High intelligence stat plus opposable thumbs unlocks tool making (including ranged weapons). Bipedalism (especially with the absurd stamina regeneration) then allows humans to take tools with them when traveling long distances, something other primate builds can't easily do because they're quadrupedal.
I have to say the poor intelligence has to be its biggest weakness, although by being in the desert biomes often, it is difficult for high intelligence builds to live there given the lack of food the intelligence builds need.
Agreed. And usually, the intelligent builds that do develop there only do so because they are originally from other biomes where they first built up the amount of intelligence necessary to be self-sustainable in the desert. Examples: Elephants, humans, desert foxes.
All I remember on the history of scorpions is that they started out in the sea and they went on land temporally. Ever since the Carboniferous era where arthropods got smaller, scorpions kind of stagnated. There still scary but it’s hard to see if they’ve made improvements.
Notably their low food needs are among the features that enable scorpions to dominate (as far as biomass goes) in desert servers. And given if they need to they can simply eat each other, they never have to worry about running out of what little food they need.
It should be noted that not ALL scorpions live within deserts.
For instance there are two species that live in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee. That biome is both completely forested and relatively wet.
@@bolbyballinger indeed, there are many tropical and temperate species as well (their diversity is highest in the subtropics). One species is found as high as 18,000 feet in the andes, and there are a variety of arboreal species. It's just that scorpions are notably very successful in deserts.
the "immense power creep the world has seen" line made me laugh a lot
Broooooo is this the Eye Witness opening theme????
LOLOLOL IT IS!!! Just checked the description. Dude, I remember going to the library as a kid and renting all the VHSs on them.
Thanks for the nostalgia.
Love the inclusion of the Loop Hero track :)
By russian devs who don't agree with their government!
Love Loop Hero, I wish the devs finish making the items in the game though, or just remove the extra inventory slots.
@@LazarheaD I haven't heard anything about this what's going on with four quarters?
@@DESMal Last I saw from them they made a post on VK disagreeing with their government invading Ukraine. Now, I can't even access VK.
@@b_but_not_2b You dense mgfudger, every character has their own loadout of items they wear...
Would love to see a pathogen tier list. Or at least a parasite one. Pathogens being more than likely the next best builds in the game if the human players can't adapt, which is hilarious since theyre a low INT build. Parasites are interesting as they have strong natural counters and yet can dominate regions with such fast respawn rates. Really interesting topic.
Just found this channel, and wow, to put the animal kingdom in a gaming perspective is a game changer. You could literally teach using this method lol. Great content! Also, does he only talk of animals in general, or does he go to specific species of the same animal?
Yes to both.
no not really, you wouldn't be able to teach non-nerdy people using this method.
@@panda5996 Says no one but you.
@@panda5996 There isnt that much super nerdy in this though. Like yes gaming terms are used but they are super common ones that most people could pick up on. This would actually be a really good method for people with learning problems, help them see the same information but in a more fun way.
@@Azazreal oh i was thinking more from a teacher in a classroom. If you are talking about 1on1 tutors for special students, then yea…
Nobody noticed the RuneScape hitsplats and health bar I love it
I'd love to see an actual spin-off game based off of this. I mean, the current price is a whole human soul. Not everyone can afford that. There's already so much information on this game out there that I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually made a spin-off.
Buddhism is kinda of like this, you do good things, you get reincarnated as a rich human. Bad things? You get reincarnated as a cockroach.
@@shallowseller3893 “you get reincarnated as a rich human” what??? You can’t be reincarnated as an adult
I wanna do it but I’m horrible at programming
@@GooseWithNoEggs also good lord the game would take forever to make
@@user-hv6gi9ux6z true. Maybe start with the most basic builds first and only do like 5 subclasses max for the species until more time and money can be put into it
The devs should add a new stat called “potential” that shows the possible strength of a build if it uses certain strategies or works with other players.
Oh god is this a jojo reference.
@@applesauce155 OHH NOOO!!!
@@applesauce155 shut up get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head
No, too opinionated.
Good Ending: Fake JoJo Fans don't invade TierZoo
@@whoisanarnb wat, im a real jojo fan ive seen manga to part 1 to part 7.
One of the most powerful and coolest looking builds is finally getting looked at
Cool yes, powerful? ...eh sorta
scorpions want to be what centipedes are
@@KrikZ32 centipedes could successfully spec into being chainsaws if they do it right.
@@IdiotN4 I mean their only bad matchups are builds thousands of times their size.
@@astick5249 i mean yeah
It always kinda scares me that technically any animal isn't it's deadliest form but the form that got evolved or passed on. Like imagine if a scorpion that could snap twigs evolving into it's strongest form over many phases.
The loop hero music helps this video to feel like a game but also still feel documentary-esque
I'm SO stoked to have recognized this piece. It's from an old TV series from the 90s called Eyewitness. Damn it brings me the best memories.
Edit: Actually I'm talking about the one in the beggining. I think you might been talking about the other one right?
@Patricio Bonatti You're right. From 0:20 to 0:40 actually, my bad
0:50 to 8:14 is when loop hero music plays. It’s pretty much the whole video
Nothing beats the joy I feel when that "new video from TierZoo" notification pops up. Great video as ever!
Also, glad to see an Elden Ring opening this time.
6:02 I LOVE this footage. Sand snake eating a scorpion? That’s just awesome. What exactly is that clip from? I’ve never seen it before
Another awesome video. I really love these. It’s a creative way to teach people about animals that may never really learn about them elsewhere. Keep it up dude 👍
At the end of his videos, towards the start of the nebula/curiosity ad he usually mentions one or two specific documentaries related to the video that he mentions using clips of. I think about 8:35?
I love how mongooses evolved to say, “Forget all that noise about venom. I want a little snacky-snack.”
It's amazing just how the Scorpion player base has managed to brute-force their way through the various ban waves to survive.
Those trilobites wish they could've lasted this long.
They did suffer a partial glacier ban.
If you want a better build with similar playstyle, I recommend Mantis. It's grappling attack has much better accuracy than scorpion and their hitbox is much smaller. Also, their stealth is very high, so they cannot be detected by larger enemies in most circumstances.
Mantids are highly effective hunters. I would like to mention, however, being some of the largest insects does mean that they need more resources to grow. Would honestly recommend referencing Arachnids instead, since they're usually the better ambush/grappler build, as they have had far more time to perfect their strategy as the updates rolled by.
@@therexyogaming The issue isn't their size, the size of their air intake, its literally the oxygen level itself that changed which things stopped being able to get any larger because not enough oxygen flowing through the harder the heart needs to pump, stress, shorter lifespan which means things can't live long enough to grow that big anymore either way.
@@ShaggyTheClown17 I'm saying comparatively to other bugs. Have you seen a Praying Mantis before?
That is the biggest downgrade I ever heard lmao
@@anonymous1burger It's that growth that makes them less viable, so my point still stands.
I find the "Scaredy-Scorpion" build to be extremely OP. If you invest in the intelligence and stealth skill trees enough, your scorpion learns the move "Play dead", which allows the scorpion to play dead and deal 2.5x damage on a first strike, and leaves the target poisoned .5 times longer. When using this move on animals such as mongooses, it can possibly turn the tide of battle by startling it and giving it time to run away.
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It also leaves the target caught off guard, making it easy to get a second hit on the target.
I cant believe this is the first time I've seen this channel. The RuneScape theme is amazing. Life subbing
I saw an episode of “Infested” where this family’s house was infested with scorpions. It looked like an actual nightmare. At one point, they tried to put on their shoes, and there was a scorpion inside.
I watched it too a very long time ago and I will never forget it.
That's called Arizona
Oh my GAWD!!! That is so freaky!!!! (I live in Kansas & one of my friends lived in a log cabin that had scorpions- I spent the night ONCE & heard this weird tapping noise on the wood floor- it turns out the noise was a scorpion running across it!! Terrifying!!
Thanks I hate it.
My uncle went to bed and left his pants on a chair and they fell into the floor. He woke up and put them on. Scorpions like to hide in cool damp dark places during the day. So they are attracted to human clothing on the floor due to the dampness from our sweat. Multiple stings before he got his pants off.
Tier Zoo takes "life is a simulation" to a whole other level.
His channel is if the discovery channel was made by gamers.
I’m glad to see you uploaded again, it feels like ages in between since I can’t stop watching your content! Thanks for putting in the work to teach and entertain us!
You are a genius, first video I watch from you and I loved it. It's good material for middle school and super entertaining for everyone else too. Big up!!!
I find the scorpion build interesting in that, for a build that relies on its venom, it's surprisingly honest. If it can't grapple you, which will be telegraphed in its stance, then it isn't likely to land a sting.
That's a double edged sword tho as this honest yet tricky playstyle makes it a perfect bait n switch for really good pro players but also really toxic bad players. Against players that know the counter the game gets slowed down if you choose to only play with that respect. This same minigame could cut off neutral-learning opportunities for new players since they now have to focus on only whether or not you're going to use the combo. Most of the time you see pros flexing their reads or spammers online using the scorpion strat because it's the only way then know how to win.
It's like a chance attack. There's a 50% chance the land could hit and the poison will wreck the other player, or it misses and the Scorpion main can only use it's speed stat and try to outrun the other main. I main scorpion and it's tough, man. But I respect the build, nonetheless. Waiting for the next patch to get some kind of buff, maybe better grapple or speed? Feels like I'm playing on Insane Mode right now.
@@devoncollins9924 You have a point there.
Literally never heard of your channel before and this is the first video I watched. You have a great way of gamifying the aspects of reality in a really fun and unique way. Definitely going to watch more and support in the best way I can!
I was soo confused the first minute lol
I'm absolutely loving the use of the Loop Hero soundtrack, premium content right here
7:27 I found this really funny because Compound Eyes in Pokemon increases accuracy as well
This channel is like when you combine a gaming geek with a biology nerd and you get an absolutely beautiful combination of the two. Perfectly executed.
Protip: The thinner a scorpion's claws are, the more potent it's venom is.
This. The big ugly scary black ones with massive claws are the most harmless.
@Impaleification Thanks.
Surprised to see you place scorpions so low in your tier list. I definitely feel like their good spacing tools, dangerous venom attacks, high intimidation bonuses, and generally solid matchup spread do warrant a higher tier placement. They don't have a lot of awful matchups in their own weight class, and being able to leverage those tools to maintain a lot of positive or even matchups even against players in much higher weight classes is a pretty good defensive trait that lot of other arthropods can't boast.
They definitely aren't top tier: the increased popularity of speedy builds with precision- and dexterity-based kits this expansion, plus an assortment of builds investing in passive venom resistance bonuses, definitely keep them from truly punching above their weight, and means they have to mind their matchups. But...D tier? Really? And here I was worrying that you'd place them too high instead.
Interesting detail not mentioned in the video: Scorpion players tend to their young for a time, unlike many other arthropods!
He focused on their hard counters, which their aren't even a lot of (intelligence and toxin resistance aren't exactly common), and made them the deciding factor in placing scorpions in D tier. He also didn't put much focus on any traits outside of pvp (probably one of the most resilient creatures out there, barely any environmental hazards bother them at all, better for survival than combat), and glossed over the fact that they are capable of fending off the vast majority of their giant foes, while straight up killing and eating most around their weight class (including small vertebrates). Tier lists are alright, but shouldn't be heavily relied on, if you really want to know how good a character is, you should test it out yourself.
id say probs high d or low c
Yeah his review is definitely biased. Totally agree with your Points.
Yeah I think he was a bit harsh. Much of the criticism was based on the fact that scorpions don't do well in fights against much bigger opponents but how many animals match up well against enemies several times their size?
The background music in these videos is so relaxing… meaning that there’s quite the contrast when one hears that chill music only to watch a grasshopper mouse get sideswiped by a scorpion’s stinger and consequently KO’d…
I think that the builds that have been around so long, should automatically start from the c-tier just because they have lasted so many different metas.
what is a meta?
@@goodbrainwork META stands for Most Effective Tactics Available. So when people talk about the meta of a game, they're talking about how viable certain strategies are, which can change when balance changes are made or new mechanics are added.
@@joshandrews8913 I thought meta was a reference to metagaming, something frowned upon in tabletop RPGs but useful in MMORPGs.
@@duscarasheddinn8033 The thing is, that's what meta gaming is. It's just taking advantage of whatever strategies in a certain game mode are considered the best or OP. People get upset at people for meta gaming because they're seen as being try-hards using the same boring strategy. Using META strategies is considered unoriginal. It's like back in the CoD days when everyone considered camping to be cheap because it requires less skill than other strategies.
Sea scorpions are not related to today Scorpions. Bugs me a lot that he got that wrong.
I feel like you underrated scorpions a bit. Scorpions combine the fear spider’s give with a deadly weapons which most spiders actually lack, anyone that’s encountered one can tell you about how scared they got, I’d give them a higher C tier
Easily A tier
@@lower.case.h8759 nah
@@LarrryB2128 yah
I feel Ostriches and rhinoceroses deserve higher. Scorpions can stay where they are; I ain't afraid of no arachnid.
Most scorpions lack venom that would be lethal to human mains, but both spiders and scorpions generally have enough to defeat their prey at least. Also spiders have much more diverse strategies, with many having advanced perception abilities or base building capabilities that far outclass the scorpion, and the ones that wander, in a similar style to scorpion, have much higher speed
But scorpions are still incredible griefing builds in the right niche, and that niche may come soon with the climate change event. The issue is that though they are able to punch well above their weight class by killing humans without proper equipment, they unfortunately cannot spawn in most human-dense servers. So outside of humans that choose to venture into the desert server AND come without venom/pierce resistance equips, they can't really use this potential.
However, with the climate change update notes that were leaked, the "desertification" event will convert a lot of grassland biomes into deserts, expanding the spawn area of the scorpions.
This will hit already poor areas of the world, such as the West Africa server, especially hard. This buff will help one scorpion build in particular: The death stalker. This name is not a case of misleading names for classes, as it has extremely potent venom. Not to the level of cobras or anything, but enough to have a reasonable fatality rate against humans not in perfect health.
Man, lucky scorpions players! I'm happy for them, and wish them a fast and successful climate catastrophe!
Climate change patch is gonna be wild
The world war DLC might just come out before it.
everything can kill humans without proper equipment
The commentary remained me of my childhood with Everquest.
Great video.