PRESENTING the Kiedrich organ - one of the oldest still playable organs in Germany (ca 1500)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The instrument in the St. Valentinus and Dionysius church in Kiedrich has the reputation of being the oldest playable organ in Germany. Although that may not be exactly correct, the organ is certainly one of the oldest in Germany, and it contains elements stemming from around 1500.
The organ was rebuilt by Johann Kirchner in 1652 and later altered several times.
The independent pedal was added probably in 1722. The restoration done in the 19th century is remarkable, because it is so unlike those performed on many other historical organs at that time. When the Baron John Sutton discovered this instrument on one of his journeys through Europe, he was captivated by its Gothic origin and he supplied the money to "restore" the instrument to its 1500 state.
The last restoration by Kuhn (1985-1987) preserved the state achieved by the previous restoration of John Sutton, emphasizing the Gothic Hauptwerk of the organ as a single manual organ.
The positiv is hidden behind the main organ case in the church tower, thus sounding as an echo-organ, and the modern pedal is also concealed in the church tower behind the organ case.
The Gothic and the neo-Gothic elements blend together exceptionally well in this particular church. The visitor is truly astonished by the church's ambiance when entering the building. The absence of the ecclesiastical baroque, which is so common elsewhere, make this church and its organ absolutely extraordinary.
Further reading: Die Orgel von Kiedrich: Geschichte und Restaurierung der gothischen Orgel der Pfarrkirche St. Valentin und Dionysius zu Kiedrich im Rheingau, by Friedrich Jakob, Männedorf, 1989, 128 pages.
Some further details on-line: www.musiqueorgu...
Sample set and knowledge source:
Sonus Paradisi
MUSIC
G. Frescobaldi
Fiori Musicali (excerpts)
ON THE KIEDRICH ORGAN
Jon Liinason
I am speachless... incredible beauty. Thank you very much
So glad you enjoy it! :)
Beautiful playing, and lovely images which convey a profound sense of mystic peace. I would love to play on that instrument someday.
Thanks for commenting John, really glad You appreciated it! Best regards, Jon
Thanks for providing a calm morning for me. Greetings from Brazil!
Glad you liked it! :) all best, Jon
so beautiful, so pure
The voice-leading in the composition is very pleasing.
It's not the oldest organ in germany, but still one of them and in a very good condition to. It's definitely a treasure for our time
Amazingly beautiful! Both the performance and the instrument in its environment itself.
So glad You like it! I think it is an adorable organ, and an absolutely wonderful companion! :)
when I was at college, I was an assistant organist at an Episcopal church in town (it wasn't that prestigous a post, I basically subbed when the regular organist was away and played at the 5:30 service on Sunday), but it gave me access to the organ. I have great memories of playing late at night up in the loft when the rest of the church was dark.
Amazing just like the one in Switzerland from the 1400s! Awesome sound!
Why do you use stopped flue stops with a tremolo in Frescobaldi? The Italian organs have virtually no stopped stops except in cases of small organs' lowest Principale notes.
Because it sounds good.
@@westelaudio943 Point taken. But you could also play it with a nice 8-foot Principale with the matchin Voce Umana...
You can do either. This sounds great and isn’t a particularly Italian organ so the registration doesn’t really matter as long as it sounds good, that’s what being a musician is. Also i doubt frescobaldi wrote any registrations in so one is free to interpret as they want.
I notice all the pieces in this video use tremulant. I wonder when tremulant was invented.
You should rename this the Kiedrich 4' Flot Gedeckt. The oldest still playable 4 foot gedeckt in Germany. Don't any of the other stops work?
Lari Kipe :) Good one! It says something, does it not, about how much I appreciate this particular stop. Thanks for commenting. All the best, Jon
@@jonliinason3 Well, I do agree, it is a very lovely stop, but I'd like to hear a few of the others perhaps.
Lari Kipe - that I can fully appreciate! How fortunate then that others play this wonderful organ, displaying it on the organ lovers network known as Contrebombarde. In a multitude of colors. :) Let me give You just one example here by user wimbomhof, using HW Princip.8
Ped.Subb.16, Princip.8. Lovely website! :) much pleasure to You I send: www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/33199
Cheers, Jon
@@jonliinason3 Thank you, Jon, I enjoyed that very much.
Lari Kipe Glad to hear it, Lari! :)
DOPO L’EPISTOLA NOT “La Pistola”! (pistola=it. transl. “gun”)
it sounds incredible! also very nice playing, Frescobaldi sounds great on it. May I ask what settings you used, especially front and rear sample combinations, because it sounds so realistic and extremely clear. it sounds exactly like a real instrument!
Sir, first of all, thanks for commenting. Glad you like it! I am afraid I am going to have to make you disappointed, since I don't recall the settings I used, I am not saving those. All best, Jon
@@jonliinason3 well thank you anyway for the video, I will just have to try it myself, and I'm not disappointed don't worry. best regards, Julian
@@julianmatthews5785 Good! Best of luck. If I remember correctly I might have added a touch of IR reverb to this one, for fun. And I always pull the room up and the front down. I enjoy trying to virtually position the audience in the back pews.
Wonderful video-such a beauty of the sound
Glad You like it! :)
This sounds so familiar to me...I have the chills!!
For your next video, let's hear some thunder !!!!!!!
There’s something about old organs that just sound so beautiful. Better than todays organs.
Much agreed!
Sehr interessant! Gestern sah ich die Kirche in Kiedrich.
Sounds like even temperament. Don't think they had that tuning in 1500. So, there've been a few changes.
absolutely sweet! I wonder how it is tuned (ie what pitch)
Here you can find a lot of interesting information on the instrument! www.musiqueorguequebec.ca/orgues/allemagne/kiedrichsv.html
How much is really left that goes way back? If I remember correctly there was a big rebuild in the 19th century ?
Very good choice of music - ideally matched to the decor and ambience of the building. The organ closely matches the Van Covelens organ of the Laurenskerk, Alkmaar in antiquity and it's difficult to comprehend anything mechanical lasting that long, even with care and maintenance. Original concept would have been state of the art.