Such a fascinating presentation ! I am an organist and everthing l hear and see whets my appetite. Most of those stops are unknown to me , but most organs are different in some way or another.Tone is magnificent and the mutations add to the excitement .I would love to look inside the chamber. Congratulations all of you !!
Thank you very much for this video! It is really big pleasure to hear this wonderful instrument and I am sure, it is even bigger pleasure to play it :-). These more than 200 years old organs have such a nice, bright, strong, but smooth tone. I must admire work of organ builders from these times. Have you some videos from concerts on this instrument? Thanks!
It's still possible to find organ of this type, in Italy. I play costantly one of these: an organ made by Tommaso Vajola in XVI-XVII, sited in Collelongo (AQ), in Abruzzo region.
The really wonderful history of this instrument started with its salvation in 1979 by organ builder Gerald Woehl - otherwise it would have been scattered to the four winds.
Beautiful organ but with some "eclectic" strangeness. It seems to me a modern patchwork of diferrent italian regional "stili" and periods: 1) The drawknobs are made with a thick, inner neck made by wood. This is typical for a french or german organ but it's a fake for a tipycal renassaince-baroque italian organ, not only for italian classics with spring chests but also for those with slider chests. They have EVER IRON WIRES not wood; 2) The "Flauto in XVII" (sic!) is another FAKE. Classic italian organs NEVER LOVED THIRDS. We find thirds (flute) in Italy (in Rome or in central italy) only in the late XVII cent. brought by the dutch orgabuilder Willem Hermans or by the italian-slesian Eugenio Casparini. They knew the italian "taste" and made the "tierce" as a "registro di concerto" but they named it "cornetta" or "voce di cornetto" OUT THE RIPIENO only as an odd stop. So the "in XVII" was probably badly put by Gerhard Wohel as a kind of "tierce separeé" a la Gottfried Silbermann... We find a "cornetto" (3 ranks) in Rome, in the late XVIII, built by the german Johann Conrad Woerle as a discant stop ever coupled to the treble "tromboni" only for the porpouse to reinforce the high notes of this reed ; 3) "Voce Umana" belongs to the late XVII cent. venetian organ (also to the neapolitan school) not to this Tuscan one; "Tromboncini" also are typically "venetians"
Who probably owned this organ and why would they sell it for scrap? When I look at it, I think it must have been in a private chapel for a wealthy person..200 years latter, post WWII Italy, maybe they were thinking like the rest of the west "Out with the old, in with the new" and it got sold off because they converted the chapel into some other type of room and the organ was in the way.
This instrument is absolutely BEAUTIFUL, both aestetically and in the sound. I'm quite sure it belongs to the southern Italian organ-building school (probably from Sicily), judging from its case and narrow front pipes. The stops, however, reflect the xviii century Venetian school (Nachini, Callido...). Giovanni Pradella reconstructed the Tromboncini anyway.
A vederlo non mi pare siciliano, direi piuttosto basilicata/campania. Basti vedere la pedaliera a leggio, assolutamente assente negli organi siciliani degli inizi del '700.
This has beautifull TONAL qualities you don't often hear in an Italian organ. They are often bold, brash and brassy ,this doesn't sound like that . It is kind of like a lovely lovely old port wine, well developed and rounded full and beautifull merging baroque and medieval TONAL qualities to get a richness in tones not played elswhere. These old organs must be conserved for the future.
Hey man, what's up with you? Have you aver played an italian romantic organ in real life? You're invited to play the one I usually, a De Lorenzi from 1843, then we'll speak about it. The last time an organist visited it he was stunned and that it was one of the organs he've played!
Just a doubt to clarify: isn't the small organ at the Hertz Hall from the University of California at Berkeley another Baroque Italian organ? I remember it was the first instrument that impressed me in the USA.
Matt S. The "Tromboncini" it's indeed a regal stop, the resonators are quarter-lenght (C1 being 2 foot long), usually built on metal, square sectioned with a small upside down cone on the top. Having such short resonators it's pretty much a nightmare to keep them in tune.
It always amaze me how old baroque organ having few stops can produce various pretty sounds. The high notes ring beautifully, not screaming horribly.
It's wonderful to see an instrument like this brought back to life.
I have nothing cool to say. This treasure speaks for itself in both sight and sound. Thank you for sharing.
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Beautiful principles. So marvelous this was saved.
pov: you're watching this for your music appreciation class
Similar organ is found in Croatia, in old church in Radovan, made in 17th century. It's amazing how so much sound comes from that old instrument.
Such a fascinating presentation ! I am an organist and everthing l hear and see whets my appetite. Most of those stops are unknown to me , but most organs are different in some way or another.Tone is magnificent and the mutations add to the excitement .I would love to look inside the chamber. Congratulations all of you !!
That such glorious tones come from an instrument so old and fragile is nothing short of flabbergasting.
I love this organ, just love it
What a sound..😊👍
It's truly a treasure.
You had me at “grooves from centuries of playing.” What a glorious treasure.
Thank you to all involved in the production of this video. :0)
Ahhh....the organ and the music match:)
Thank you very much for this video! It is really big pleasure to hear this wonderful instrument and I am sure, it is even bigger pleasure to play it :-). These more than 200 years old organs have such a nice, bright, strong, but smooth tone. I must admire work of organ builders from these times. Have you some videos from concerts on this instrument? Thanks!
It's still possible to find organ of this type, in Italy. I play costantly one of these: an organ made by Tommaso Vajola in XVI-XVII, sited in Collelongo (AQ), in Abruzzo region.
Thank you so much for sharing this treasure with us💔
Beautiful and informative video. Thanks!
INCREDIBLE! A fantastic video!
Stunningly great video! Thank you very much!! Why did I go Cello after hearing these voices?!
Great!!! What a magnificent organ!
Beautiful instrument.
Leo Smith It is
Great!!
👍....a lot of sound from such a small organ...
You can get alot from a small organ, I keep telling my husband this
The really wonderful history of this instrument started with its salvation in 1979 by organ builder Gerald Woehl - otherwise it would have been scattered to the four winds.
Love it
Comments or questions? Feel free to voice them here!
Beautiful organ but with some "eclectic" strangeness. It seems to me a modern patchwork of diferrent italian regional "stili" and periods: 1) The drawknobs are made with a thick, inner neck made by wood. This is typical for a french or german organ but it's a fake for a tipycal renassaince-baroque italian organ, not only for italian classics with spring chests but also for those with slider chests. They have EVER IRON WIRES not wood; 2) The "Flauto in XVII" (sic!) is another FAKE. Classic italian organs NEVER LOVED THIRDS. We find thirds (flute) in Italy (in Rome or in central italy) only in the late XVII cent. brought by the dutch orgabuilder Willem Hermans or by the italian-slesian Eugenio Casparini. They knew the italian "taste" and made the "tierce" as a "registro di concerto" but they named it "cornetta" or "voce di cornetto" OUT THE RIPIENO only as an odd stop. So the "in XVII" was probably badly put by Gerhard Wohel as a kind of "tierce separeé" a la Gottfried Silbermann... We find a "cornetto" (3 ranks) in Rome, in the late XVIII, built by the german Johann Conrad Woerle as a discant stop ever coupled to the treble "tromboni" only for the porpouse to reinforce the high notes of this reed ; 3) "Voce Umana" belongs to the late XVII cent. venetian organ (also to the neapolitan school) not to this Tuscan one; "Tromboncini" also are typically "venetians"
So,,, are you saying this his NOT a beautiful, satisfying instrument to make music?
Who probably owned this organ and why would they sell it for scrap? When I look at it, I think it must have been in a private chapel for a wealthy person..200 years latter, post WWII Italy, maybe they were thinking like the rest of the west "Out with the old, in with the new" and it got sold off because they converted the chapel into some other type of room and the organ was in the way.
This "Ricercar del sesto Tuono" reminds me... Bach's Fugue Bwv 552 ("St.Anne")...
Agreed. The first 5 notes are the same. One must wonder whether Bach was familiar with this piece.
@@bachkirche It's a very simple theme
Of course they both take the subjects from the plain chant "Tu es Petrus".
This instrument is absolutely BEAUTIFUL, both aestetically and in the sound.
I'm quite sure it belongs to the southern Italian organ-building school (probably from Sicily), judging from its case and narrow front pipes. The stops, however, reflect the xviii century Venetian school (Nachini, Callido...).
Giovanni Pradella reconstructed the Tromboncini anyway.
A vederlo non mi pare siciliano, direi piuttosto basilicata/campania. Basti vedere la pedaliera a leggio, assolutamente assente negli organi siciliani degli inizi del '700.
Beautiful principal
This has beautifull TONAL qualities you don't often hear in an Italian organ. They are often bold, brash and brassy ,this doesn't sound like that . It is kind of like a lovely lovely old port wine, well developed and rounded full and beautifull merging baroque and medieval TONAL qualities to get a richness in tones not played elswhere.
These old organs must be conserved for the future.
Hey man, what's up with you? Have you aver played an italian romantic organ in real life? You're invited to play the one I usually, a De Lorenzi from 1843, then we'll speak about it. The last time an organist visited it he was stunned and that it was one of the organs he've played!
Just a doubt to clarify: isn't the small organ at the Hertz Hall from the University of California at Berkeley another Baroque Italian organ? I remember it was the first instrument that impressed me in the USA.
This is the organ you played on.
many thanks!!!! i am assuming it is quarter comma meantone
But is the author of this Italian instrument known?
I really love the sound of this organ. It has such a lovely bright tone! What is the piece being played during the Ripieno demonstration?
How wonderful! Is it tuned to meantone temperament?
Pa to je grozno!
I readed and listened all'.
In Italia abbiamo molti organi come questo nelle chiese.
It hurts my eyes to see those stickers 3:31 on such an elegant baroque organ...
I want to hear the drum effect
What kind of manual is it?
Tuning: +100c: A4 = 466Hz
What kind of organ is it?
The Trumpet sounds more like a regal, but none the less, great instrument.
Matt S. The "Tromboncini" it's indeed a regal stop, the resonators are quarter-lenght (C1 being 2 foot long), usually built on metal, square sectioned with a small upside down cone on the top. Having such short resonators it's pretty much a nightmare to keep them in tune.
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Play Philip Glass on it.
Could I please ask which temperament is the Organ currently tuned in?
Marc Heathcoe 1/4 comma meantone
Why play Sweelinck on an italian organ when demonstrating ?
Because he is one of the major European Renaissance composers?
Geil👍🏻
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