Before anyone watches this video please take a few seconds to remember and honor all of those who have lost their lives while serving in the military. Even if you don't stand behind the politics/reasoning for certain conflicts, please remember, some individuals didn't have a choice in the matter and died for their country. Thanks to everyone past and present for your service.
Thank you for taking time to honor those who gave all. This was two muscle car legends fighting it out. It’s almost like watching an aging boxer against the new guy. In its day, the GTO was tough to beat, but the LS6 took the crown. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you to all who sacrificed to allow us to complain about how great we actually got it and thank you C&Z for giving us that sweet sweet commentary again.
Great cars and commentary 👌 Thank u to all my brothers and sisters in arms who have sacrificed their life for us and our great nation. Never forgotten! Rest in peace. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
First off, Happy Memorial Weekend from a Canuck to my neighbours to the south, never forget our Fallen. Yea baby!!! Great video, happy as hell the commentary is back with bathroom/toilet humour and all!
nothing but enormous respect for veterens from this canadian. i am gratefull every day. now the videos, i am gratefull for these too! best videos on line in my opinion, everyone of these cars are awesome. i have a 64 goat and have had mostly pontiacs over the years, but i love em all! keep up the great work
Or even better! Pick one up for a few hundred in the later part of the 70s! My first car was 70 chevelle I bought for $300. My second car was a 69 torino gt for $400
Watching a Chevelle SS 454 in action on a race track is like watching a lion pursue its prey in the African wilderness and eat its lunch! The closing speed is simply a thing of beauty!
I've always felt that the '70 Chevelle SS was the most beautiful car in the modern era. It just looks great from any angle. Guess that's why a nice one now costs over $50k
Both super nice cars. I expected 12's from the Chevelle every run but traction is the key factor keeping that from happening. As we saw it can do it. Hard to put that power down on those tires for both. Thanks for the vid. 👍
My buddy in high school had a 65 GTO just like the red one. His uncle rebuilt the engine with a hotter cam and some head porting, installed a heavy duty clutch and gave it to him for his 16th B day. Man o man that was a fast car, so lucky he never wrapped it around a tree like many of our other high school buddies with their first hi perf cars. Many a camaro and mustang ended up in the scrap heap during the 80's. I graduated in 87 and some of the guys had sweet muscle cars but only a few survived. A high perf machine in the hands of a teen was a dangerous combo. Great race and great video !!
Thank goodness the commentary is back. I was beginning to think that he was never going to talk again. I so happy you finally posted a LS6 video. My grandpa had a 1970 LS6 just like that one. Except it had a Muncie rock crusher 4 speed. I sure would love to have that car back.
I love the old Goats, but I'm afraid the Chevelle has got this...the LS6 was a beast...a GTO from that era would need a 421 to at least keep this race close...389 not enough firepower against an LS6 454, but we shall see...looking forward to this!
Well maybe you should look up a 1970 GTO with a RAIV against the 1970 LS6 Chevelle . The GTO rated at 370hp with 400 , give the LS6 454 with 450hp a run for its money. Not to mention that the Chevelle body Style for 1970 copied a lot of the look of the GTO it you dont think so look at the 1968-1970 models of both cars. Plus there is also the 455HO Pontiac for 1970.
@@tomcherry7029 You would need to go back further than '68. They were the exact same platform for different GM sub~brands as were the skylark and cutlass so there was no copying or stealing of ideas. If you look at the numbers, the LS6 was quicker. Facts is facts.
@@tomcherry7029 Tom, I agree the RAIV , and quite possibly the 455HO could have given the LS6 a run...I was referring to an engine from that 1965 time period, like a 421, that could have made this race closer. Unfortunately, GM had a 400 cube limit on engines in intermediate bodies, but a GTO with a 421 would have been very formidable..I think a few dealers, like Royal Pontiac, actually installed some 421's in GTOs, back in '65...
@@gary9426 well there was no LS6 in 1965 so why compare it to a 1965 engine? If so there were the 389SD and the 421SD engines of 1960-1963 that would be more than a match for the LS6, compare apples to apples . There is a 1970 RamAirIV GTO vs this very same LS6 Chevelle video on here and a woman Driving the GTO and she nearly takes the LS6 if she didnt miss 2nd she would of took it. And if you loik at the trap speed you can clearly see the RAIV has the power.
Love the Drag Race. The Chevelle was a faster car. Had a Yellow 64 GTO Convertible slow car. Then a 65 GTO; Red with Black interior. Both 4 spd with 389's. Trips and 3.90 rears. Both Fun cars. Went to Nam in 66. Having ordered an Olds 442 with all options. But never received it. My dad said No. As I was under 21 and the other cars were in my dad's name. Came back from Nam and I was Walking. My dad had traded in the Red GTO and my brother was driving a 67 Red Vette with 4spd and 327 350hp. Back in 64-5 and 6 Did just street racing. Raced so much one night the brakes failed to stop me at a red light. Lucky no cars were coming the other directions and just went thru. I drove slowly home and put my self to bed. Tank of gas on Friday night, Saturday night and fill up on Sunday night until the following weekend. Got my share of tickets. Then in 68, picked up a Camaro SS 396; 425hp with 4spd. Drove the cars in those days. Just memories now. Good luck to you. I have Owned over 50 cars. But walking now. Wish I kept that one and that one and that one. Worked Chrysler Engineering in the Day. Could not park my cars in the parking lot. Had to park on the street back in the day. Could go on, but that's enough. Good Luck Mate. Oh, I live in another country now.
I would have rather seen a 1970 396 Chevelle against a 389 1965 GTO for a fairer race! Because grouping up in my friends group that raced at OCIR in Southern California we had both a 1965 GTO with a 389 Tripower 4 speed & a 1970 396 Chevelle SS turbo 400. Both cars ran low 13's on street tires within 10's of a second of one another sometimes both dipping into the 12's on cool evenings or nights. ✌
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I grew up near a Chevy dealer back in those days. I visited their shop pretty often. Seems like there was always at least one or two 396/454 Chevelles getting the engine replaced/rebuilt under warranty. Scored cylinder walls were quite common.
I really expected the LS6 powered Chevelle to wipe the floor with the GTO, hats off to the GTO driver though. Would be neat to see a 455 powered RAM Air IV GTO Judge against the Chevelle, that would make more sense and be a perfect era to era race.
@Speedy rapacki Yeah, the column shifter and linkage was slightly lighter weight and a few bucks cheaper than the floor shift... but I agree, automatics are lame altogether. I'd have ordered a 4 speed.
The LS5 would have been a much closer race. Dare I say the GTO might have even won a round or two... but if the Chevelle had the L78 396, the goat still wouldn't have had a chance.
65 is my favorite GTO but it has no chance against the fastest production muscle car from that time period the 70 LS6 Chevelle in the hands of a true drag race with great reaction time on the tree it's unstoppable
I was just thinking there's never been a LS6 Chevelle on here. With the Chevelle being only 150 pounds heavier, the Chevelle should run right past the GTO. I figure the Chevelle would have to be terribly undergeared or way out of tune comparatively to lose I figure. But who knows, I could be wrong.
The Goat 389 tri power gets out of the hole quicker , but just cant hang at the big end with the larger displacement engines , Pontiac should have made the 421 SD a top option , she was a beast ! , LS6, L78 , Hemi , 440 6 pack , L88 , W30 , 455 Stage 1, 421 SD , Maxie Wedges and of course the FE427 🏁 would all put a hurt on it. Just my take and I had a '69 GTO Ram Air III 🤩
This takes me back to high school drags in 1985.i owned a 66 442.4 speed,400 (12.5to1)tri power 411 rear and could get off the line.last 2 runs we got 9inch street slicks and tied up exhaust, started in 2nd.went from high 12's to a 11.57@122
LS6 454, turbo400 you kinda knew what the outcome was gonna be. GTO down 65 cubes and sporting a third pedal didn't have much of a chance but I'm sure he had more fun!
How well I know about the 65 Pontiac GTO with 389, tri power and 3.90 gears. I had one in red in a ragtop (white) and red interior. Only had it for 5 months as I got 3 speeding tickets in a little over 4 months and figured I better send the 'cop magnet' down the road. Traded it for a 66 SS 396 Chevelle in marina blue. I wish I still had both these cars.
Chevelle Ls6 auto with street tires in the 12's and a 389 Goat in 13.5's, nope, not if there're stock. Well, I have some land for sale in Fla. Maybe a bridge also.
Not really a ‘fair fight’, but fun to watch and look at the cars. The ls6 was kind of a purpose built, solid lifter race motor. Mom wouldn’t have liked to get groceries in it, even if she learned to drive a clutch from growing up. But the GTO was friendly to a grocery store run and could still do low 14’s out of the box. Not bad!
I’m sorry I know you have the right intentions but our fallen Heroes do not compare to a drag race. I’m a patriot that cries every time I watch a fallen hero video and I will promise you drag racing doesn’t get the same reaction. Great video just a little of my insight.
The GTO ran respectable times, but the Chevelle overpowered it by 100+ horsepower. Yes, the manufacturer might claim 450hp from the LS6, but it was probably closer to 500HP.
Before anyone watches this video please take a few seconds to remember and honor all of those who have lost their lives while serving in the military. Even if you don't stand behind the politics/reasoning for certain conflicts, please remember, some individuals didn't have a choice in the matter and died for their country. Thanks to everyone past and present for your service.
Amen!
Thank you.That is very meaningful.
Amen!
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Thank you!!! Never Forget!!
Thank you for taking time to honor those who gave all. This was two muscle car legends fighting it out. It’s almost like watching an aging boxer against the new guy. In its day, the GTO was tough to beat, but the LS6 took the crown. Thanks for sharing.
I've been very fortunate, I currently have a 64 GTO and 38 years ago I had a 70 Chevelle SS 454. Both are incredible muscle cars.
454 ftw!! But seriously, that last race with both cars having traction issues and still turning decent times, amazing cars!!
Thank you to all who sacrificed to allow us to complain about how great we actually got it and thank you C&Z for giving us that sweet sweet commentary again.
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Thank you for your kind and sincere comments to our servicemen and women.
I'm glad the narrator is back. Makes it a lot more enjoyable to watch.
Great cars and commentary 👌
Thank u to all my brothers and sisters in arms who have sacrificed their life for us and our great nation. Never forgotten! Rest in peace. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
First off, Happy Memorial Weekend from a Canuck to my neighbours to the south, never forget our Fallen.
Yea baby!!! Great video, happy as hell the commentary is back with bathroom/toilet humour and all!
Thank you for the moment of silence for Memorial Day. Very Classy!!!
And soooo glad to have the commentary back. Missed you Bro!!
thanks for watching 😎
Those old 389 GOATS always impress me. I have ridden in an LS6 SS Chevelle before so I know what it will do.
nothing but enormous respect for veterens from this canadian. i am gratefull every day. now the videos, i am gratefull for these too! best videos on line in my opinion, everyone of these cars are awesome. i have a 64 goat and have had mostly pontiacs over the years, but i love em all! keep up the great work
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Wish I could go back in time and order these from the dealers.
Same ;( wish they bring back the chevelle
Or even better! Pick one up for a few hundred in the later part of the 70s! My first car was 70 chevelle I bought for $300. My second car was a 69 torino gt for $400
Get an engine built and have your mechanic install it in a car
Watching a Chevelle SS 454 in action on a race track is like watching a lion pursue its prey in the African wilderness and eat its lunch! The closing speed is simply a thing of beauty!
I've always felt that the '70 Chevelle SS was the most beautiful car in the modern era. It just looks great from any angle. Guess that's why a nice one now costs over $50k
LS6 can go over 100k easily
He's back!!! So good to hear the humor and commentary!
I've never seen a black LS6 so that was cool! Glad the goofiness is back as well!
I loved those old muscle cars. They were the best!
Both super nice cars. I expected 12's from the Chevelle every run but traction is the key factor keeping that from happening. As we saw it can do it. Hard to put that power down on those tires for both. Thanks for the vid. 👍
I was reading the original Hot Rod article and they stated they couldn't launch at any RPM higher than idle. If they did the tires would ignite.
@@CarsAndZebras believe it
My buddy in high school had a 65 GTO just like the red one. His uncle rebuilt the engine with a hotter cam and some head porting, installed a heavy duty clutch and gave it to him for his 16th B day. Man o man that was a fast car, so lucky he never wrapped it around a tree like many of our other high school buddies with their first hi perf cars. Many a camaro and mustang ended up in the scrap heap during the 80's. I graduated in 87 and some of the guys had sweet muscle cars but only a few survived. A high perf machine in the hands of a teen was a dangerous combo. Great race and great video !!
MUCH better with the voiceover.
Glad to have you, your narration, your humor back.
Fun mix of cars.
I'm so glad you're back, it's much more entertaining.
Cheers
I have been waiting for a LS6!!!!!
Thank goodness the commentary is back. I was beginning to think that he was never going to talk again. I so happy you finally posted a LS6 video. My grandpa had a 1970 LS6 just like that one. Except it had a Muncie rock crusher 4 speed. I sure would love to have that car back.
I appreciate your honoring our fallen heroes. 👍🇺🇲
Looks like a good race! I WANT IT NOW
War really is hell and a lot of us lost someone!
I love the old Goats, but I'm afraid the Chevelle has got this...the LS6 was a beast...a GTO from that era would need a 421 to at least keep this race close...389 not enough firepower against an LS6 454, but we shall see...looking forward to this!
Nothing had the juice against the LS6. They should have made a LS6 Nova in '70
Well maybe you should look up a 1970 GTO with a RAIV against the 1970 LS6 Chevelle . The GTO rated at 370hp with 400 , give the LS6 454 with 450hp a run for its money. Not to mention that the Chevelle body Style for 1970 copied a lot of the look of the GTO it you dont think so look at the 1968-1970 models of both cars. Plus there is also the 455HO Pontiac for 1970.
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You would need to go back further than '68.
They were the exact same platform for different GM sub~brands as were the skylark and cutlass so there was no copying or stealing of ideas.
If you look at the numbers, the LS6 was quicker. Facts is facts.
@@tomcherry7029 Tom, I agree the RAIV , and quite possibly the 455HO could have given the LS6 a run...I was referring to an engine from that 1965 time period, like a 421, that could have made this race closer. Unfortunately, GM had a 400 cube limit on engines in intermediate bodies, but a GTO with a 421 would have been very formidable..I think a few dealers, like Royal Pontiac, actually installed some 421's in GTOs, back in '65...
@@gary9426 well there was no LS6 in 1965 so why compare it to a 1965 engine? If so there were the 389SD and the 421SD engines of 1960-1963 that would be more than a match for the LS6, compare apples to apples . There is a 1970 RamAirIV GTO vs this very same LS6 Chevelle video on here and a woman Driving the GTO and she nearly takes the LS6 if she didnt miss 2nd she would of took it. And if you loik at the trap speed you can clearly see the RAIV has the power.
Love the Drag Race. The Chevelle was a faster car. Had a Yellow 64 GTO Convertible slow car. Then a 65 GTO; Red with Black interior. Both 4 spd with 389's. Trips and 3.90 rears. Both Fun cars. Went to Nam in 66. Having ordered an Olds 442 with all options. But never received it. My dad said No. As I was under 21 and the other cars were in my dad's name. Came back from Nam and I was Walking. My dad had traded in the Red GTO and my brother was driving a 67 Red Vette with 4spd and 327 350hp. Back in 64-5 and 6 Did just street racing. Raced so much one night the brakes failed to stop me at a red light. Lucky no cars were coming the other directions and just went thru. I drove slowly home and put my self to bed. Tank of gas on Friday night, Saturday night and fill up on Sunday night until the following weekend. Got my share of tickets. Then in 68, picked up a Camaro SS 396; 425hp with 4spd. Drove the cars in those days. Just memories now. Good luck to you.
I have Owned over 50 cars. But walking now. Wish I kept that one and that one and that one. Worked Chrysler Engineering in the Day. Could not park my cars in the parking lot. Had to park on the street back in the day. Could go on, but that's enough. Good Luck Mate. Oh, I live in another country now.
Although the Chevelle won the race, the GTO wins for looks and just plain coolness. @ least in my opinion.
wow! the gto punched way above its weight!
Good to have you back missed your commentary humor !
What a good intro
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I would have rather seen a 1970 396 Chevelle against a 389 1965 GTO for a fairer race! Because grouping up in my friends group that raced at OCIR in Southern California we had both a 1965 GTO with a 389 Tripower 4 speed & a 1970 396 Chevelle SS turbo 400. Both cars ran low 13's on street tires within 10's of a second of one another sometimes both dipping into the 12's on cool evenings or nights. ✌
These races are fun to watch.
I knew it. The Chevelle won. But the GTO held well in the third try.
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Incredible matchup. Thanks !
Thank you for remembering..... Awesome video as usual.....
I grew up near a Chevy dealer back in those days. I visited their shop pretty often. Seems like there was always at least one or two 396/454 Chevelles getting the engine replaced/rebuilt under warranty. Scored cylinder walls were quite common.
Thank you Jesus!! My goofy boy is back. Hallelujah for dork commentary. It was the reason i subscribed. Plus the cars were bitchen too.
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He did it he recorded a drag race with a LS6
The most muscular muscle car ever, the positively diabolical LS6. If only it was a 4-speed…
Tat chevelle is SOOOO badass!! & the Pontiac is a beauty tooo!
Thanks for the moment of silence. Well done!
The 454 Chevelles were beasts. I miss those days... I now drive a 4 banger tin can..... Sniff...
It is really great to have the announcer back!!!
The 65 GTO is the Ultimate MUSCLE CAR 👊
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Thank you all of you that guaranteed my freedoms.
I want that Chevelle but it just may not have enough, comsidering what the GTO has...
,I'd like to see them run again both of them with good tires😉
Lovin the commentary.
C&Z is BAAACK!! YAY!! I take back most of the smack I said about you C&Z
I really expected the LS6 powered Chevelle to wipe the floor with the GTO, hats off to the GTO driver though. Would be neat to see a 455 powered RAM Air IV GTO Judge against the Chevelle, that would make more sense and be a perfect era to era race.
My favorite model of each car. Can’t believe the 454 has column shifter!
It's lighter and cheaper... the guy that ordered that car intended to race it, no doubt.
@Speedy rapacki Yeah, the column shifter and linkage was slightly lighter weight and a few bucks cheaper than the floor shift... but I agree, automatics are lame altogether. I'd have ordered a 4 speed.
Good C & Z
Another great race, no substitute for cubes.
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An LS5 would have been a better race. Or a 396
Both would have still waxed that Goat...BIG Time!
The LS5 would have been a much closer race. Dare I say the GTO might have even won a round or two... but if the Chevelle had the L78 396, the goat still wouldn't have had a chance.
Hey your voice comm is back. Wondered where that went
Glad they brought back the snarky commentary! YEAHHHHHH!!!
Chevelle all the way, but the first race the guy in the GTO nailed the launch, nice driving 💪
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I really appreciated you posting the conditions and barometer.
65 is my favorite GTO but it has no chance against the fastest production muscle car from that time period the 70 LS6 Chevelle in the hands of a true drag race with great reaction time on the tree it's unstoppable
My uncle has a 70 Chevelle LS5 454. 4-speed. White interior.
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Chevelle 454 is the best muscle car ever CHANGE MY MIND.
Yep, that's the ultimate in my opinion.
Two legendary cars on a legendary track.
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Hope you got your wood screws Benny, because I'm about to blow your doors completely off 😂
Lot of cool cars in that movie for sure.
The GTO was giving up 90 hp and 76 lbs of torque so the outcome was expected.
I was just thinking there's never been a LS6 Chevelle on here. With the Chevelle being only 150 pounds heavier, the Chevelle should run right past the GTO. I figure the Chevelle would have to be terribly undergeared or way out of tune comparatively to lose I figure. But who knows, I could be wrong.
Finally an LS6 Chevelle running like it should...
The LS6 with headers and a properly dialed in Holley should get into the high 12s
Great video excellent commentary!!
The Goat 389 tri power gets out of the hole quicker , but just cant hang at the big end with the larger displacement engines , Pontiac should have made the 421 SD a top option , she was a beast ! , LS6, L78 , Hemi , 440 6 pack , L88 , W30 , 455 Stage 1, 421 SD , Maxie Wedges and of course the FE427 🏁 would all put a hurt on it. Just my take and I had a '69 GTO Ram Air III 🤩
Nice tribute at the beginning. Well done.
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This takes me back to high school drags in 1985.i owned a 66 442.4 speed,400 (12.5to1)tri power 411 rear and could get off the line.last 2 runs we got 9inch street slicks and tied up exhaust, started in 2nd.went from high 12's to a 11.57@122
A couple classics
Both cars Raw Power Love it !!!
LS6 454, turbo400 you kinda knew what the outcome was gonna be. GTO down 65 cubes and sporting a third pedal didn't have much of a chance but I'm sure he had more fun!
389 and 455 look identical so you never know
How well I know about the 65 Pontiac GTO with 389, tri power and 3.90 gears. I had one in red in a ragtop (white) and red interior. Only had it for 5 months as I got 3 speeding tickets in a little over 4 months and figured I better send the 'cop magnet' down the road. Traded it for a 66 SS 396 Chevelle in marina blue. I wish I still had both these cars.
While rebuilding our grandfather's car that way
Need a 70 Goat w a 455 HO shootout nice vid
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12.82 through the exhaust manifolds and on street tires. These cars ate Hemi Cudas for lunch and picked its teeth with Cobra Jet Fords.
Nothing like American Muscle ♥️♥️
My 70 Chevelle SS ls5 454 had air and power windows
You just done a video about a black and white chevelle with no dazed and confused references? Dude...
That’s some bullshit man but you just gotta keep on livin L-I-V-I-N
It'd been a lot cooler if he did...
Chevelle Ls6 auto with street tires in the 12's and a 389 Goat in 13.5's, nope, not if there're stock. Well, I have some land for sale in Fla. Maybe a bridge also.
In reality an Ls6 pulls like crazy from half track
The 1965 GTO was the first muscle car.
Never Forget 👍
Not really a ‘fair fight’, but fun to watch and look at the cars. The ls6 was kind of a purpose built, solid lifter race motor. Mom wouldn’t have liked to get groceries in it, even if she learned to drive a clutch from growing up. But the GTO was friendly to a grocery store run and could still do low 14’s out of the box. Not bad!
The only old Chevy I do like. Now let's see a Thunderbolt!
If there is an LS6 in the race, bet the house on it.
The 389 GTO started the stock muscle car era in 1964. The 454 Chevelle ended it 1n 1970.
I wonder how close to actually stock any of these cars are......
When is your next five-month sabbatical?
I’m sorry I know you have the right intentions but our fallen Heroes do not compare to a drag race. I’m a patriot that cries every time I watch a fallen hero video and I will promise you drag racing doesn’t get the same reaction. Great video just a little of my insight.
At no point are the two compared, so your insight is very flawed.
Awesome!!!!!🎆🎆🎆.
The GTO ran respectable times, but the Chevelle overpowered it by 100+ horsepower.
Yes, the manufacturer might claim 450hp from the LS6, but it was probably closer to 500HP.
Why spoil a good Chevelle video with images of Norris?
video is well done..
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America is awesome but CZ bringing back the commentary double awesome. Now hemi vs scrambler .....