You know how many people I have seen get there ass beat by smaller and or weaker people a shitload ask Mike Tyson's opponents if size matters they were all bigger than him.
@@shawnsmith2610 The same with Rocky Marciano...and he was undefeated throughout his professional boxing career and was world heavyweight champion. One of the best, according to many...he was very short for a heavyweight.
@@roybeckerman9253 height doesn’t equate to weight mike tysons big as fuck him and Sean o malley are the same height but mike tysons clearly way bigger bro
@@roybeckerman9253 he was very short but in today's world of heavyweights, he'd get obliterated. Marciano is so small that in today's weight class, he would be a crusier weight. He wouldn't be a light HEAVYWEIGHT. What is he? Like 5'9 185lbs and slow. Put him up against Lennox Lewis. 6'5-6'6 254lbs. Or fury 6'9 270lbs and fast. RUMMY'S corner did an interview with late great trainer Emmanuel Stewart and he said that Rocky was great, but his talent couldn't be enuff to make up for the massive physical advantages of today's boxers. Especially if that boxer was fast.
I remember reading an article about Bruce Lee being asked if he can beat Muhammad Ali. He said Ali would win and listed all the factors. Bruce Lee was honest about himself and made improvements. Too bad he died young. I'm curious what he would have done in JKD development if he lived longer. Haduuken!
Bruce Lee worship is one of the biggest impediments in understanding JKD as he intended it. The correct answer is, it depends on the situation, but yes Bruce Lee could definitely lose against him but nothing is guaranteed. Because all things are not actually being equal The Jack man fight is the reason why Bruce abandoned wing Chun
There is literally no bloody way Bruce wins that fight. He wouldn't have the power to stop him and would be overwhelmed quickly by the bigger stronger man.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi In a padded ring, without shoes, we’re both fighters have a chance to study each other, and then face off, Bruce would have maybe a %10 chance of survival. In a sudden violent encounter in a parking lot, on asphalt, with boots, I give Bruce about 50/50 because the only real play Lee would have is constant low line attacks to the knees and groin, with evasive footwork, and maybe a lucky fingerjab to the eyes. He would have to fence with his feet, tap and run, there’s no other way for him to win
@@robertvondarth1730 MJW is way too skilled, your talking about the same techniques that MJW also knows. Its not like your talking about a boxer who never trained in self defense techniques.
It's pretty unfair to expect so much from Bruce Lee considering the martial contributions he's already made considering the time in history, his smaller frame, and his legacy. Beating someone significantly larger with proper sparring skill is too much to ask of almost everyone. Proof that if your life revolves around being tougher or more lethal than the other people you don't like will make you miserable. I'm afraid that Anglosphere culture can exacerbate this, which definitely includes Asian American men. I do HEMA but I learnt to manage my expectations and goals so that it's fun and not stressful.
I prefer to remember him as the man who transformed mystic monastery culture into a small business they teach people how to open in universities. he was the Ronald Mcdonald of karate schools all of them. there would be no ATA and no McDojos if he hadn't helped so much to systematize the business of teaching martial arts.
Bruce Lee should be remembered for his philosophical contributions and shining the light on training methods that lack pressure are inferior. Otherwise, that scene in 'once upon a time in Hollywood' is hilarious.
@@echelon2k8 do you realize that Bruce has been parodied many times in film, video games and anime? Dragonball had a caricature of Bruce that gets beaten up by a child Goku in a fighting tournament, Fei Long and Marshall Law are both often portrayed as joke characters in the Tekken and Streetfighter games especially in their story cut scenes, once upon a time in Hong Kong cinema there were a slew of Bruceploitation films where kung fu movie directors would cast actors who bore a physical resemblance to Bruce Lee in order to capitalize off Bruce Lees fame, they would often market these films as authentic Bruce Lee films too, look up actors like Kim Tai Chung, Bruce Li, Bruce Lai, Dragon Lee, Bruce Le and gosh the list could go on, in fact... Game of Death was incomplete by the time of Bruce Lees death, they hired stuntmen like Kim Tai Chung, and the then unknown Yuen Biao and Yuen Wah to don stage make up and wigs to play Bruce in order to finish the film and they even still went on to make a sequel Game of Death 2 which featured a cardboard cut out of Bruce and clips from Way of the Dragon in the film to give the illusion that Bruce acted in the film, Donnie Yen and Sammo hung both also made films where they play caricatures inspired by Bruce called Enter the Fat Dragon... So you wanna talk about disrespectful, the very same people that praise him today also disrespectfully profited off his name and have portrayed him in a mocking manner before in the past, and mind you these were fellow Asian people, for all those that like to say, the reason Tarantino did that was because he's racist.
You beat me to it! I've been planning to do a video on MJW saying this on Rickey Smiley's show and then how DJ Vlad asks every single guest about it 7 years later.
I agree with Michael Jai white...still the biggest fan (lots of shirts of him)of Bruce lee and I’m sure a sparring session would be fun..but I think even he would admit (like he did with Muhammad Ali) that Jai White would win.
Bruce Lee actually taught me to "embrace my own potential", even though it was achieved in a significantly different way that anyone would think at the first glance... I used to be BL's die-hard fan in the older days. I even studied Wing Chun for a couple of years (I know, I know...). I realized later, in a humiliating way, that WC was not the most useful fighting tool, when I tried to spar with a guy that did boxing. We didn't spar during WC classes, because - Sensei's words - "you cannot spar in WC, as it is meant to actually hurt someone, therefore sparring is out of question" ("it's for DA STREETZ, hell yeah!"). Yet the funniest thing from these times was that Sensei was telling stories that he went here and there, got into a bar fight, kicked someone's ass... These events happened very often and always "right after we separated" so that none of the students could see it. What a strange coincidence(s)! So anyway, after this famous sparring with the guy that did boxing (not even a boxer), I thought to myself that perhaps it's time to grow up and as a result, I signed out of the "Cult of Bruce Lee" and never had any idols to worship ever since. I got bigger, got a job and got into urban exploration. And you know what? Even when visiting some old hotels, hospitals, bunkers, palaces, often at night and meeting homeless guys, drunks, there were no fights. Never. Ever. Yet real fights "happened" to my ex-Sensei all the time. In public, crowded places. Life can be full of surprises sometimes! Now I know this story sounds like it was made up by some sworn BL hater, even I find it hard to believe and try to deny it (as it is downright embarrasing to me), but that's actually how it was. Unfortunately... But hell, I'm much happier nowadays than back then anyway. And yet BL's movies are still fun!
I think any person who actually practiced for a while knows size matters a great deal. And yes of course so is skill, mindset and endurance. And they know no matter how good you are there is someone who is better than you. And yes that you are objectively better than some other people. Neither one these things makes you a better or worse human being
In Martial Arts size doesn't matter, it only matters in sport competition with rules, when there are no rules, size means nothing, if I poke out your eyeballs and you weigh 300 pounds and me 200 pounds? Too many people comparing true Martial Arts with Sport Competition, two different things altogether.
@@JENDALL714 so in your hypothetical situation where you're 100 lbs lighter and try an eye poke...what level of cognitive dissonance prevents you from making the inference that he can do that exact same thing to you, and much more effectively too, being 50% larger than you? The fact is, any "street" techniques go both ways. You can groin kick your opponent, sure, but can you execute it well enough to avoid getting clinched up and bitten in the neck? Or better yet for him, why can't he just grab your much lighter and weaker body, pick you up, and throw you head first onto the ground? Unless the guy you're fighting is both huge and clumsy af, you will get steamrolled with a size difference that big. Size always matters, dumbass, and it matters a LOT more on the street.
@@luisvelazquez5420, I didn't say any of that. I was responding to the guy above that BL will get wrecked by MJW because size does matter. Both of them are great actors and a respectable martial artists. But MJW win in this fight. No disrespect to BL but a fact is a fact. People who sees that BL is unbeatable are the disrespectful ones. BL never wanted that. Read his books. As he gets older he became a more humble kinda person. BL's cultists are nothing more than a bunch of butt licking garbage.
@@luisvelazquez5420, It doesn't matter. I'm not talking about BL's past achievement. This video is about a fight between MJW and BL, and MJW clearly win this one.
MJW would handle Bruce fairly easily. He is a highly accomplished martial artist and he is insanely fit. Size doesn't matter if only one person knows how to fight. If both know how to fight, than size 100% matters.
Agreed. Bruce was a pioneer of modern martial arts, and for his time, he was definitely very profound and I’m sure he could handle his own in a fight, but MJW grew up in a different time period, with better training methods. He’s trained with professional fighters, he has trained in more efficient ways than what Bruce Lee had known or had access to 50 some years ago.
Yes, but there's still knowing how to fight and then knowing how to fight. Not all fighters are created equal. Also, don't forget that Bruce Lee was also a highly accomplished martial artist and insanely fit.
Ramsey with a cap?! NO WAY! What an amazing sight, trillions of people have died and will die without seeing this. Nice cap, I like it, I like caps. You should wear it more on camera.
Ackshually... The very first time I saw Coach Dewey's face (courtesy of YT algorithm) years ago, he was wearing a cap, a flat cap to be precise, talking about when a black belt meant something "back in the daaaay" , and I think he donned it several times
NO! indoor caps on middle-aged men project baldness insecurity! Ramsay has already embraced his iconic, perfect dome and must continue to be a beacon of self-acceptance for the rest of us losing our hair!
Hi Ramsey you might be right about people worshipping bruce lee. How ever you do not know who would win that fight. just because someone is bigger does not mean they can beat the smaller guy. and just because someone is an acter does not mean they cannot fight. do not forget you guys are doing a sport. there are no sports in a street fight. also people are worshipping Brazilian jujitsu. so you see there are plenty of worshippers.
@@michaelperrins2848 Bruce was a pioneer he was doing mma striking and graplling . Most influencial marcial artist in the world . I think mr Wite would beat bruce lee being that bruce was a more complete fighter both in skill and in mindset. But White is so big strong and fast i think he would win (Fast for his size).
I am a BIG Bruce Lee fan. But, not because I think he was the greatest fighter in the world but because his beliefs about the marital arts were way ahead of his time. He is like Einstein in that his ideas are now commonly accepted as valid but in his day, "Studying multiple styles" was blasphemy!
I stayed in and trained. You got me started some months ago, and today all the lifting and push ups paid off lol. Carrying heavy things from basement to trash at work and this has never felt this easy before. Thanks coach!
@@strikingitrich7630 Larry Hartsell (RIP) was one of Bruce Lee's students and was a lot physically bigger than him. Check out an old youtube clip of an interview where Larry admits that Bruce beat him so easily when they sparred with each other. I saw a youtube clip where Ric Meyers did an interview with co-star Jim Kelly (RIP) from ETD, and Jim witnessed Bruce having friendly sparring matches with some of the cast members. Jim said that Bruce could spar with anyone at any size because he was that fast and that efficient. I think the Bruce Lee haters simply have an agenda, and won't admit to Bruce's greatness.
The only time size doesnt matter is if both opponents are relatively close. But you take someone 3 inches and 20 lbs heavier and it makes a huge differenc
Funny thing: I did a project for my speech and commune class and I made a very similar joke about the little Cult of Bruce Lee cancelling people who slander his name, because I was there to dispell with the crap, and the fact of the matter is that Bruce Lee cant take on 10 people at once, that was a movie.
@@TaoistSwordsman Right? Like It gets quite old, people saying Bruce Lee is like this unbeatable whatever, but in reality, from the Tao Of Jeet Kun Do, because yes I did read it and Bruce Lee's Fighting Method, its not about who is the best, its about what Can you do to perfect the skills you have. Like come on people.
@@charrleschervanik3632 Well said, though this basic notion and logic of yours would very much upset the cult of personality of a certain weak-bodied standard person-actor (whom in his life particularly appreciated pumping his ego with glorifying set-up movies about his imaginary combat prowess).
@@charrleschervanik3632 Hey, its actually not a style. Thought you read the book? Its a scientific and philosophical approach to fighting. The book has more to do with breaking personal barriers than anything else.
Michael Jai White has videos from his teenage years compete in Karate tournaments and he already looks so good while Bruce only have 1 sparring clip with his student
Bruce Lee obviously rigged that spar too, there's not a chance he filmed himself sparring his own student without asking said student to make it look good for Bruce beforehand.
I agree with you. MJW would have a good chance of beating Lee, but let me add this. Lee himself named two karate fighters that he said would have a good chance against him, and he didn't ever want to test that - Jim Harrison and Mike Stone. I believe. I can think of another, Gene Labell would rag-doll him. I was fortunate to learn several of Lee's techniques through Joe Lewis, so I understand that there is no magic there. Just genetic awesome speed and explosive power, along with a great work ethic.
Docinaplane * * * * *Your reply is interesting to say the least * I never heard this story about Harrison and Stone. Lee was also a very smart guy and knew how to be humble. For me that's important. In the 1970's I remember they interviewed Bruce Lee, and asked him how he thought he would do in the Boxing Ring with the then Light Weight Boxing World Champion ROBERTO DURAN ! (Same Weight as Lee) Bruce answered with humility and great respect for Duran . I sure can't make a quote as it was near 50 years ago that I seen this interview... Lee said something like this " Duran is training to fight champion level boxers and I (Lee) am making movies ! Hope all is well and good for You Your Pal Paul
@@PunchProfessor Thank you, Paul!! Love the Lee quote! I imagine Lee was very keen on being a movie star and worked hard at that, but as you say, was humble and respectful as a martial artist. Peace, Jeff PS: From Jim Harrison's obit: "Bruce Lee was once quoted as saying: “I fear no man, but Jim Harrison and Mike Stone are the last two men that I would wish to meet in an alley fight. Jim Harrison’s fighting style is not flamboyant or spectacular, it’s just simple and deadly! He’s one of the most dangerous men in the world.”
My view as a JKD instructor: Bruce Lee was someone who was in fact ahead of his time in martial arts, in what regards training methods (sparring, focus mitts and heavy bag training, conditioning, nutrition). In the world of martial arts in the 60's and 70's almost nobody trained with a scientific approach. Also at a technical level, Bruce Lee brought different approach, combining boxing, light footwork and kicking, different from the more static Karate approach. Bruce Lee's approach would have a big influence in American Kickboxing. Also at a philosophical level, the idea that styles are limiting and you should be able to express yourself was also something new. Having said all that above, I don't think that BL was a super man that he would defeat Mike Tyson like some fan boys say. Finally the latest stage of JKD is a great martial art, different from other striking arts and in a way it's still very effective martial art, even with all the evolution in martial arts in the past40 years.
Bruce Lee is like your friend that's a traditional martial artist that messes around with his mma friends, he knew some stuff but his style isn't that much better
I believe he had a superior sparring method also that was coming to age. It would of been what TKD should be with the use of lower kicks. Unfortunately. RIP
The big man small man argument was solved thousands of years ago ,when a little Stone Age man faced a big Stone Age man .Said screw that and smacked the big guy on the head with a rock lol
@@RicoMnc those people that fought weren't that far off from each other's weight anyway, if someone as small as Bruce would have entered he would have been koed
@@Guile1117 That is most likely, but sometimes there are exceptional fighters who overcome great odds. Watch the documentary "Choke", it is here on YT, a guy about Bruce's size makes it to the finals against Rickson Gracie after very courageous, if not insane efforts to defeat much larger opponents. He was a Japanese judoka with Japanese pro-wrestling experience. After losing to Rickson he trained BJJ and many years later earns his black belt despite having lost sight in one of his eyes due to participating in that fight tournament. Never fought professionally again tho', I think.
I did 20 push ups, but segmented into 2×10 with a rest in between and they weren't actual push ups because I can't do them so I did an easier variant. I'll be back at it and I will do these 50 push ups today!
Bruce Lee had a history of street fighting and was a boxing champion in shanghai the whole reason he had to leave China was that he really hurt someone in a fight, With high fight iq and affinity for fighting "dirty" I firmly believe bruce could mitigate whites natural size advantage 6 or 7/10 times
@@RamseyDewey well that's a critical error but everything else I said is true, I got my places mixed up.... Can't believe I got a direct reply!!! Huge fan BTW 🤩🤩🤩🤩
I once fought Bruce Lee in the Kumite and he was no better than a white belt. He kept dropping his guard so I kept landing strikes on his face. I won by technical knockout after landing a Dim Mak on his K9 pressure point. I made it to the semi finals but lost to Frank Dux.
I weighed about 135 through most of high school. So now I’m just imagining a 235lb man beating up a high school kid. I don’t care how skilled that kid is, that doesn’t look good.
Bruce can't do anything about his size but mustered everything for strength. Bruce Lee might get scared of muhammad ali but actually he has same punching power as muhammad ali.
Bruce Lee would have loved Michael Jai White, because of his blazing speed for His size. Michael honestly expressed his opinion. Bruce Lee was a trailblazer, that’s why he’s a legend.
Also I don't think Bruce Lee ever mastered a martial arts. MJW is in his 50s and has been training since 13. He's been at it longer than Bruce Lee was alive.
Only because Bruce Lee is dead. Bruce himself studied different Martial Arts and trained with friends that boxed, trained Karate, Judo and Jujitsu, and Filipino Arts. Bruce would be 81 if he was still alive. Not weighing in on the who could beat who debate, though.
It's amazing how far people's biases will delude them into thinking someone can beat a guy 100 lbs heavier (lean) with technically more martial art credentials. I've probably spent hours trying to get through to them that weight classes exist. Thanks for covering this!
In Bruce's situation I don't care about his weight class ,it's his credentials...I'd put money on Diaz vs the Rock but then again we are talking about the proven Diaz brothers while Bruce actually has no credible evidence of pro fighting history
@Hoosayne Lol! Oh man, that takes me back. It's been a long time since I've visited the Goku vs. Superman page. After that universe shaking feat with Beerus, I felt I had nothing more to prove. Some DC fans conceded and I left. You might see me on some Geekdom101 manga spoiler/review comment threads sometimes, but I haven't had interest in much else DB community related. Have you been doing alright? Thanks for the shout out.
@@cedricbauman9537 Those bigger people were not nearly as experienced as Gracie on the ground. As I said before, it's about size *and* credentials/skill. Outside of a high school boxing match, Bruce Lee has no competition record. There's no evidence that he mastered any style. But Michael Jai White has 8 black belts and been in Karate tournaments. He has trained in martial arts like twice as long as Bruce Lee at this point. Then on top of that, he is literally twice his size. All of the evidence is clear. The only way Lee beats a man that size is if the guy is a talentless, walking tomato can with no more than 6 months of training. That's not what Michael Jai White is.
Did the 50 pushups. At the start of this year I stopped lying to myself about my level of fitness and weight, "I'm not out of shape or overweight, it wasn't that long ago that I could do 20+ pull ups, 53 push ups in a minute, 200 squats in a row etc.." That was 5 years ago, I've gained 40 pounds of fat during that time, can't even do 40 pushups without breaks anymore. Lost 25 lbs in 3 months, really suprised just how easy it has been.
I think it wouldve been cool to hear Bruce's opinion about combat sports. I imagine, from what ive read about him, that he would probably appreciate those athletes for getting out there and putting their skills to the test.
You are just in the middle level my young padawan. The entry level goes as 'can my friend/relative beat your friend/relative' and the final level, or master degree in bullshiterology is 'can fictional super hero defeat another fictional super hero'. Also, once choosing a side you cannot switch it or else you will be killed for your sin !
This idea that no martial artist either during Bruce Lee’s lifetime, before it, or after it can ever beat him is asinine, and if Bruce Lee himself lived long enough to become old and wise, he would be able to admit this himself. It’s silly to think one man can beat everyone that ever has and ever will exist. Martial Arts is always evolving. Period Your point at 12:10 is FACTS and that’s what I try to tell ppl all the time lol
He didn't ever say he was an invincible superhuman. He said Ali would destroy him. Seems like too much people sae the movies and thought they were documentaries
@@thedaarkwulf1137 Yes like it's not even down to size. Ali was a better fighter and he knew it. That's why he studied and learnt a lot from him Bruce Lee's fan cult is giving him a bad name
@@kyubeycoobie3568 you also have to keep in mind that the majority of the vocal Bruce Lee fans know exactly nothing about fighting, and believe in the nonsensical mysticism of Eastern arts. I mean there are still countless people on TH-cam here who still believe Bruce Lee played table tennis with nunchaku.
the You Tuber RealBruceLeeFight just levitated off the ground his head spun 360 degrees and he projectile vomited green stuff all over his bedroom walls because you dared to say that Bruce Lee was unconquerable by any mere mortal in a fight... but seriously look that guy up, he s exactly what you just described. I've shown him R Ramseys demonstration as to why the one-inch punch can be done by anyone etc. He has a mind like a steel trap.
Last thing. His most important fight (call it sparring w/e) for people to know, is being held down by Gene Label's grappling. And how he realised what he was doing wrong and learnt, instead of excusing it
@@Endru85x idk how it would go but he learnt grappling and wrestling with Gene Label and some jiu-jitsu, so it wouldn't be like those strikers. Lee could kickbox and grapple (not sure how much grappling or if it would be enough tho) but yes I do think he would accept the challenge
Bruce realized his JKD was ineffective if the fight goes to the ground from Gene Labelle. He only trained for about a year with Gene,so he barely scratched the surface.
@@heartfanjim01 you sure he only trained with Gene for a year? Was Bruce even using the term Jeet Kune Do when he trained with Gene, or was he still saying Gung Fu? Even if just for a year, something major could've come into his mindset or skills. Gene said he incorporated striking techniques he learned from Bruce into his teaching after they met
The problem with stating that you're better than Lee is that self improvement was his life. He was also a humble man, never claiming to be better, just be adaptable. Regardless of either side, we'll never really know until Lee claws his way away from death and beats up anyone in his way.
@Max Payne The guy also replaced the sand in his punching bag with dry concrete mix at his wife's request. We have a lot of people to corroborate this, including all the people he trained. He also had to spar with Norris for his third movie so they could properly choreograph the fight. When interviewed later on who would actually win a bout, Norris asserted without hesitation Lee would. Then again, like said before, we'll never really know and might as well argue if you can beat up a Roman centurion.
@@josephleisses3997 What? I saw Chuck Norris answer to this question by saying "I was a professional fighter, he was not" which strongly imply Chuck believe he would've won even if he is not saying it literally.
Yes. After Bruce Lee created day and night, he went on to invent entertainment overall and martial arts movies in specific. Those were good days. Show some respect for Bruce Lee, everyone!
@@joshuabean9409 it’s so bizarre how people like that think and Bruce (Rest his soul) would have disagreed with them completely yet they still whine on and on
There is a reason Boxing, wrestling, powerlifting, and MMA have weight classes. Assuming both fighters are trained, the one that has 100+ lb advantage is going to win.
Generally speaking at least, just ignore the Bob Sapp videos from Japan. Though I guess we can debate on whether Bob was ever a skilled fighter, to begin with.
@@shinjig he really wasn't a good fighter at all, he was decent, but even though he trained in martial arts, he only used his strength to win, hardly ever to no skill or technique
Even if MJW weighed 132 lbs he would still beat Bruce. Bruce Lee was an actor. next people with be asking if superman or batman could beat Mike Tyson. come on guys this is foolish.
Can you do a video on teep vs side kick. In Sanda they use the sidekick like a jab whereas in thai boxing they use the teep like a jab. Pros and cons of each? Thanks dude!
What's your opinion on Savate? Considering its huge growth in popularity since 2010, I would like to hear your opinion on its applicability in actual fights.
do you have any opinion on "Indian clubs" for exercise? I live in North America and I have never met anybody who has trained with them. But they seem like a popular training tool in Southern India, parts of the middle east, parts of Japan, and maybe elsewhere. Do you think swinging clubs is a better or worse way to exercise than conventional weight training, for any given martial art? A useful tool to supplement weight training? any efficacy beyond just being an activity that makes you sweat?
Bruce said Ali would kill him 'Look at my hand, that's a little chinese hand. He'd kill me' He tried to be as honest as possible to get better all the time. Like when he started studying judo and grappling bc he got humbled.
He had alot of power bro He say that of insult.. Ali was black his genetic help him but bruce achieve all of it by himself and training of fingers and 100 way to achieve more power in his hand and His back (cobra)
Hello Ramsey, I somewhat recently got a medical condition and lost 13kg and most of my strength, for example I can't do a single pull-up or a single press-up. How would you recommend building up to these exercises as I feel pathetic.
Bruce had Chi ...he was born with it, his power was unmeasurable and his speed unmatched...MJW is a great martial artist but he would never beat Bruce Lee
There were people getting angry at Chuck Norris for saying that Bruce can't compete with him in real life because of the fact that Chuck actually competed and won in real tournaments and the fact that Chuck is a much bigger man. The Bruce Lee fanbois are beyond help. This one time I ran into one of them and when I commented that Bruce Lee has no actual competition record, he looked like he was going to have a heart attack. There's the other extreme too where these well known TH-cam commentators were saying that even they could beat up a 125 lb Bruce Lee, or the awful representation of Bruce by Tarantino. Bruce was probably a super lean 140 when he was healthy and before he had the pain killer issues and couldn't eat properly. In his last movie, he was unable to eat properly and overworking so much that he was down to a frail 125 lbs when he had drug complications and died when they were afraid to call the hospital because he was at another woman's house. So yeah, probably anybody could beat a dying 125 lb Bruce Lee.
so drug complications caused the brain enema or something that killed him? And are you saying he was off on an affair while this happened? Maaan, if that’s true... damn. Add that on top of the total cynicism the martial arts community has developed toward him and Bruce seems just to be a big con of a man who also has shitty morals. Jesus, okay, like Bruce Lee worshippers are a problem, but I feel like people in the martial arts community have been influenced by backfire effect and now say everything about Bruce was shit as a reaction. And it’s not racist, but you can’t blame people for bringing race into it, because Bruce is like, the only reason Chinese culture has any semblance of tolerance or respect in the West. Which is why there are sensitive feelings around his reputation.
People keep embellishing Bruce Lee’s strength and making up stuff about it. The only real information we have about how strong Lee was consists of a copy of his old gym card where he recorded the numbers of his lifts. Lee’s biggest lift was a 90lb squat for 10 reps.
@@RamseyDewey again u have zero proof that dan inosanto would be some idiot who would lie for bruce. credible witnesses makes it true. otherwise u better not believe ANY history at all. and that would be insanely absurd if you did that. look at louis cyr, never even trained for the back press, but did 4300lbs which was the record until a canadian farmer who trained for like 10 years just to beat his record, and he did with 5300lbs. some people have natural freakish strength. u gotta realize that.
@@RamseyDewey that was when he started strength training in 1968, he later on incorporated obercoming isometrics with the ISO chain and became very strong, there is a pic of him one arm over head pressing a barbell with 95 lbs aprox
The idea that "size doesn't matter" is crazy. Why do you think they have weight divisions in all the fighting disciplines. For example, Floyd Mayweather Jr is arguably the greatest boxing technician in history BUT he wouldn't stand a chance against Anthony Joshua.
In the 1970's I remember they interviewed Bruce Lee, and asked him how he thought he would do in the Boxing Ring with the then Light Weight Boxing World Champion ROBERTO DURAN ! (Same Weight as Lee) Bruce answered with humility and great respect for Duran . I sure can't make a quote as it was near 50 years ago that I seen this interview... Lee said something like this " Duran is training to fight champion level boxers and I (Lee) am making movies ! Good Job with this Topic/Video Paul
@@leroyalflush5026 * * * * * It was in the 1970's near 50 yrs ago. Was on television and in those days there were only 3 major tv channels ~ ABC NBC & CBS ~ must have been one of them, yet even that I ain't sure. I do remember they told Bruce Lee how Duran admired him. Then they asked~ well how do you think you would do in the ring with him? Bruce with respect and humility gave that reply I posted above ! I have trained with Duran, partied, and gambled with him too. I was in Seattle when they buried Bruce, and went to his funeral. Big Bruce Lee fan = Me, Duran too !
This is like putting a lion and a buffalo to fight and expect the lion to win without killing the buffalo, size only matters when the fight is in a ring and rules are involved. A heavier opponent also comes with disadvantages in the art of combat
@@UnjustVerdict its an advantage if you're fighting small unskilled combatants, when the fight isn't for sports size can be a weakness for the elements which favors the small oppositions. we've seen this in nature all the time
Kyokushin is a great style but it doesn't just magically make everyone who trains in it unbeatable. I've seen kyokushin guys get knocked out by taekwondo fighters.
@@jackslater5886 sure but wouldn't that apply to Bruce Lee as well? Most of his street fights were school yard brawls rather than martial arts travel matches.
@@wanabisufi8843 it sure does, Bruce and Michael are in the same category as far as I'm concerned. Both incredibly skilled and probably dangerous guys but neither with an official fight record so all just speculation at the end of the day.
Yea for me I have to go with white bc we KNOW what he can really do and see clear clean video footage of what his body is capable of. Bruce lee all we have is low quality footage from 40-50 years ago and a bunch of anecdotes
The general public, and martial artist alike, have elevated Bruce Lee's status to legend. Bruce Lee's intent was to be a better martial artist, not the greatest fighter. He was the first Asian superstar, that challenged tradition not only in the world of martial arts, but in the world of acting, in a time where there were no Asian superstars in the west.
The only time I find it annoying is when people say Bruce was not a major influence on the martial arts world. That's sort of like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger was not an influence on bodybuilding. Sure Ronnie Coleman was bigger... pound for pound, but the name Schwarzenegger will be remembered for the ages. Same as Bruce Lee. They were icons! As far as who could beat who in a fight... Even my traditional Wing Chun instructor Augustine Fong would say... "A bigger stronger skilled man will always beat the smaller man." Thanks for the inspiration Ramsey!!! BooooM!!!
Both skilled, but are they skilled the same way? We saw Bruce perform one inch punch, and seemingly impossible moves. Fact that that his speed and endurance was extraordinary. Michael is big and strong, but we never know if he could keep up with bruce.
What seemingly impossible moves? The one inch punch is not difficult to do. What else? His two finger pushups? I know a lot of little guys that can make that look easy. The less you weigh, the easier it is. What else?
@@RamseyDewey for example kicking someone in the face so fast he did not have time to notice it. Ok i know cameras werent as capable back then. Im not saying that he would win, just that we should not underestimate someone based on size alone. Bob Sapp is very big, was beaten many times by much smaller guys
@@spyware1100 but we never seen him do any of that though let alone seen it happen in a fight, and Bob Sapp is known to throw his fights and he's much of fighter either most pros could beat him he's just not good
You're a child fighting a child, sums up the useless bully fights in schools. It's really not a final boss or a beat em up videogame. It's just kids letting out steam because of school stress, home stress and personal problems. As for Jai White winning, he has the build and technique to beat anyone as long as it's a fair fight and nothing dirty. Also I'm doing 50 push ups now after this comment.
Size does matter that's why we have weight classes. Michael Jai White would be my favorite in a fight with the little Dragon however I've seen tiny guys knock out bigger men. In a REAL fight I'd pick White. We'll NEVER know because the little Dragon is in paradise. OSU and respect. Incidentally MJW has REAL street credit back home. Osu 🙏🏼🐅🐉
Little guys can knock out bigger unskilled men and even then it's rare, but a significantly bigger skilled man 99.99% of the time will beat the living daylights out of the smaller man.
Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist. No one is saying that he's not but he's not beating Michael Jai White, he's very fast especially considering his size, he's most likely more powerful (because science) and he's very well experienced in martial arts and fighting. Bruce Lee will forever be the greatest but he's still a human being who can be beaten.
Nobody can beat Bruce Lee. As MJW a striker, what if Bruce Lee tackled him on the ground and choked him as his art Jeet Kune Do consists of Punching, Kicking, Trapping and Grappling.
What are your thoughts on Karate Combat, Ramsey? I've seen a few bouts and it looks super cool, kinda like watching a computer game like Street Fighter II, but then on closer inspection you can see how often the fighters find themselves out of position, and the poor footwork makes it look clumsy. Very interested to hear your thoughts!
"You got out there and trained, right?" *curls his dumbbell in approval in front of the computer* I am my own gym (plus some assorted weights) :P Doing pull exercises as I write this.
Bruce Lee was a pioneer of modern martial arts, he was ahead of his time for sure, definitely talented and a good fighter for his time. MJW however has so much more at his disposal now than Bruce ever had. He’s trained with ufc fighters, and has grown up in a time where we know more about fighting and training, and what works vs what doesn’t. To me, this is like comparing an old classic car to a modern sports car. The classic car is timeless, ahead of it’s time, and back in the day, it was great, but time is the great divider and the classic car just can’t hold up to the new car and what the engineers have and know now that they didn’t 50 years ago or so.
Just gonna say that if we were talking about who would win between stipe miocic vs and henry cejudo there would be no argument about stipe winning that fight because it's a 235lbs man vs a 135lbs man but because it's bruce lee everyone argues.
Not only 100 lbs size difference but lee was 5'8" white is 6'1". Lee would not have the power necessary to actually hurt white without having to really wind up and throw full force , then you have to remember hed be punching upward, hitting a man who is VERY solid and thick built, and can also move very fast and agile for being so large. So lee may have a speed and mobility advantage but theres no way in hell hed be taking white out as easily as people think just based on his Kung Fu movies.
Not saying who would win or thay nonsense but how do you know bruce couldn't hurt jai white when alll the people he sparred with said he hit like a heavyweight . No doubt he would hurt him bad if he hit him.. His side kick and jab was like a heavyweight
Stewie Griffin I'm saying that in a fight speed trumps size proportionately, i.e. A fighter 3x faster against a 2x heavier opponent has a significant advantage. The best strikers train for 2 second fight ending scenarios ((much like a gun fight, who hits who first and decisively with consequential penetration and stopping power)), any longer than 3 seconds and you're waisting your time as a striker ((my opinion)), you should focus on grappling, and Bruce was well above average speed.
It's like asking who would win in a fight (boxing) between Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather jr? The truly stupid among us will insist on discussing the question as if it is a legitimate question.
I do appreciate your take on this Ramsey, at least you are honestly expressing your opinions by applying your knowledge of fighting, so I must respect your comparatives.
I personally have no issue with that. He was an action cinema pioneer. He was a martial arts pioneer. He challenged social attitudes of the time and became a hero to many people. That should be enough for anyone.
@The Crazy Amateur Runner He basically popularized cross training in martial arts, but certainly, despite his legion of weird cultists, did not invent cross training. There were plenty of "mixing styles and seeing what works" before Bruce Lee (e.g. Kajukenbo was founded in 1947 when Bruce Lee was only 6 or 7) Claims around him being the "Grandfather of MMA" though are laughable and pure hyperbole. Dana White is a fanboy who collects samurai swords and vintage action movie posters as much as anything. I mean, Vale Tudo matches were happening in Brazil when Bruce Lee was a little kid, and it took 20 years after Bruce Lee died for the first UFC to happen. And the guys who caused that to happen were the Gracies, who had zero influence or association with Bruce Lee or JKD.
@@iorekby Combat sambo was in USSR before Bruce was even born. Goju ruy is one of the oldest karate styles from Okinawa and it has grappling, takedowns and even ground fighting,with a punches and kicks. So yes,saying "Bruce Lee is a founder ofMM" is kinda over-exaggeration.
@@alexferrana3979 I agree with all your points. IMO if Bruce Lee were alive today, he'd probably be embarrassed by all the delusional fanboy fiction they created around the guy. He was a talented performer and action star who changed cinema and was obviously passionate about martial arts. But he wasn't some unbeatable fighter, and the man himself even admitted that (he said Ali would beat him in a fight). It's his fanboys that created this weird cult around him and talk nonsense which makes me cringe.
MJW can literally break a bags chain from a hoping sidekick and kick burst a bag with a roundhouse kick (that’s not joke btw the last one, leather bag burst one kick no joke)
@@w8ngr Exactly.People seem to omit the size thing when it comes to Bruce Lee.Being that I'm a michael jai white fan, it's easy to say I'm biased in this case.🤷🏿♂️
One thing is for sure: Bruce Lee's "quality" of movement is much more enjoyable to watch on screen than MJW or Jet Li or Donnie Yen or Jackie Chan or Tony Jaa or Van Damme or Segal (lol) or anyone else. Bruce had the one quality I've never beheld in ANY other martial arts movie star: PURE originality! Movement that looks like it owes nothing to any particular "style". When I watch the rest of them, I know I'm looking at "Karate", "Kung Fu", "Aikido", "Wing Chun", etc. But when I watch Bruce move, all I can see is Bruce Lee's PURE self-expression. He's been often imitated but NEVER duplicated! There'll never be another who can match Bruce on THAT!! Just my humble opinion...
Let's be clear about the two. In the 70s, Bruce was the man. From the 90s on up, Mr. White is the shit. Bruce devised "the art of fighting without fighting," i. e., JKD. MR. White studied many styles of martial arts and many black belts. If he's that good, he'd be like Guru Inosanto. I do remember some of Bruce's students talking about actually trying to shut the kid up. Some of those kids were over 225, 215, and so on. Bruce, cleaned the floor with them. Bruce belived point fighting was useless. He's right. Take all the rules out and find out who's the better fighter. My money is e Bruce. I'll tell you why. Did he not mention that JKD will always evolve? There's no set standard for it. JKD isn't the gospel truth. I stand corrected. The basis is Wing Chun Kung Fu. From there, anything else is whatever. My JKD is going to be different than urs. Mr. White's fighting style is different from Bruce's. So who's better? I'd say Bruce. Even if he got, beat, he'd want to learn bc he didn't want to get beat again. Absorb what is useful, discard what is not.
He is bigger. Might be a fight in his favor. But MJW also claimed Shaolin is not real because Shaolin tempels got destroyed and therefore all Shaolin are not real.
@@maddinkn Its like the Ninja's. Or Greek Pankration. The ancient schools and techniques are lost. Any of the modern ones arent really connected to the ancient. The Shaolin Temple in China is a tourist spot.
Surprised this is still coming up. I'm Bruce Lee's size and train in JKD concepts and even I know size matters. I even did light sparring with heavy weights and luckily it was light sparring in a controlled gym because they can always take any of my hits just like me getting hit from say a 12 year old kid. It's not good or bad, it's just physics. Martial arts is about self discovery, not really about fighting in the long run.
Your dissection of the Bruce Lee / JKD cult is also how I sincerely feel about religion. What you say in this video applies to the dismantling of any illusions or irrational thought. However, I value fiction & symbolism & feel that, like religion, they have their place in inspiring others (like celebrities can do). A personal example: When I was young, I idolized Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Van Damme, and, yes, also Bruce Lee, who all represented the sensational & celebrated - and they did inspire me to train, even to this very day! But in idolizing them, I undervalued my "mere" parents for "only" dealing with the mundane, like giving me life, love, food, clothing, shelter, & education. I also undervalued my teachers & friends. Illusions like celebrity idolatry are like young love / lust but turned into a belief system. They are what put Trump in office and what fuel some American voters into thinking the Rock would make a great president despite no proof of being qualified. It’s what makes us overlook scientists who make vaccines. (See how I incorporated recent news into this comment?). Even Bruce Lee himself is recorded on-camera in his Pierre Burton interview saying he resented being called a "superstar" and that being so celebrated was an illusion, saw himself publicly as an actor and would've loved to have been called a "super actor". There really is no distinction between cults & religions except the passage of enough time to be retrospectively logical. And like religion, it's often the followers that become crazed themselves and push the notion of infallibility while the figurehead might not. Being a religious person yourself, I don’t see you as crazed per se but what you say about the JKD cult can also apply directly to criticisms of religious faiths (all, not just yours). But like I said, I understand the value of symbolism & other forms of inspiration, the impacts of which can’t be summated with facts. But I also don’t confuse them with logical thinking & facts. I say this with the utmost respect, Coach Ramsey. This is MY honest expression of self. For the record, I maintain a “live & let live” approach to people of different perspectives, including religion or celebrity fanaticism, provided no harm is being done.
I think what riles people is how lacking in humility Michael Jay Whites comments were (self praise is no praise). I believe Michael Jay White would on probability win. But who is the better martial artist is another thing, who would have the greater skill and understanding of the martial arts in their respective eras? Who was/is the most pioneering in their respective eras? Who had/has the deeper understanding of the arts and their philosophical meaning? We must also factor in as Ramsey points out that Bruce has the handicap of Micheal having 50 odd years of knowledge advantage. To use a chess example I would argue the current world champion Magnus Carlsen would easily beat Bobby Fisher if a prime Bobby Fisher appeared right now and they had a match. However if Magnus was born and raised in Bobby Fishers era my money would be on Fisher. The game has evolved. So the average player from bottom to top will be stronger today than previous generations but that doesn't mean players today are more talented. It's building on the shoulders of giants.
I agree with your perception of MJW. I remember I got into a whole youtube debate with some fan due to mjw's claim that he's a better striker than most ufc fighters. For this one, however, I could see Bruce Lee losing due to facing a knowledgeable opponent that's also bigger than him. Maybe if it was point competition Bruce Lee could win off speed alone, but I'd bet that White would win by knockout.
@@nybxcrotona Yes, if I was betting on a fight between them my money would be on MJW. But who wins in a fight doesn't determine who is the better martial artist. Just like Floyd Mayweather would lose to an average pro heavyweight. But who the better pound for pound boxer is a different matter. Martial arts is so broad, some people say that martial arts true meaning is 'The Martial Way' meaning the martial way to enlightenment. Otherwise we would just call it fighting and not martial arts. I would say that in this sense Bruce is further along the path than MJW.
Really ,then If MJW win ,I would win against u ,u wouldn't even know me,how weak I am ,how strong I am ,so shut ur disillusioned mouth up,please use your conscience.MJW wouldn't even beat Jackie Chan in his prime,u believe only what u see , believe about what u don see too,like Jesus Christ is forthcoming.....
I saw Bruce fight MJW, they wrecked up downtown Tokyo fighting to a stalemate. Bruce et a train and walked off into the sea, MJW moved to America, climbed the Empire State Building and it was all a big kerfuffle.
I'm pretty sure MJW has been training in his field of martial arts longer than Bruce has been alive. Joe Rogan and Eddie bravo claim that MJW kicked a heavy bag so hard that it broke the chain off!! I wasn't there so I don't know. However! It was so memorable to them that they both started laughing about it. Those memories that prompt emotions I tend to believe are true. I think it's quite fair to say MJW beats Bruce.
About Lee they say : After he kicked the punching bag, the punching bag exploded and the scraps still heard months later in the garden of james coburn. TH-cam. That after a kick from Bruce The garage in the punching bag was eaten and broke. in the event of a fight it came true who was led! And in a street fight where everything is / is allowed! I would bet on lee !!! Especially since he sparring with Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris that he had !!! where he outclassed her! You weren't even able to meet him !!! Was the MJW more than Joe Lewis? Nothing !!!
@@Guile1117 And why do eyewitnesses (Bruce Lee’s wife in her book) and Karem Abdul Jabar, many eyewitnesses who were also there, say something different! ??? 🤭 😂😂😂
I just don't understand how Bruce Lee has become the ultimate master fighter that no one can beat. MJW should have known better than saying that. I am sure there are a lot of martial artists who share the same thought, but they keep the thought to themselves to avoid the cultists coming after them.
I haven't seen all of the video yet, so you may cover these points, however, there are some points that need to be addressed: 1. I don't have an issue that he thinks he can beat up Bruce Lee. It's an opinion at the end of the day. 2. People say Bruce Lee never fought anyone need to use that same argument against MJW. 3. MJW was publicly insulted and challenged by Platinum Mike Perry and he didn't step up - he can't be all that confident in his abilities. Perry fights at 170lbs - 60lbs less than MJW 4. People say MJW trains with the World's best fighters - Bruce Lee did as well. Size is obviously a factor, so the question becomes is MJW's size greater than Bruce Lee's skill? It could be, but that's what makes this a fun discussion. Interestingly, almost everyone is picking Floyd Mayweather to beat Logan Paul. Logan Paul weighs around 215lbs + and cuts to 190, whereas Floyd fights at his natural weight of 150lbs. Not many people have an issue with that prediction. Many people would also pick Floyd to beat 50 cent, who is well over 200 lbs. So, it's not out of the ordinary for a smaller guy to beat a bigger guy it's just that their skill level needs to be extreme. It just so happens that Bruce Lee does have an extreme skill level as evidenced by fighters like Chuck Norris.
You know you are leaving out some pretty significant points about Mike Perry challenging MJW ... like maybe include the fact that at the time Mike Perry was 28 years old in the prime of his life MMA fighter and MJW was a 52 year old man. Kind of unfair to basically call him a coward for not accepting a challenge from a man 20 years younger than him don't you think? I think I more shows the cowardice of Mike Perry for challenging a man 20 years his senior. Just saying.
@@dahamet5003 You're also missing the part that MJW said he could beat not only a Mike Perry, but also a bunch of other MMA fighters, even at his age. He even thinks he could've beaten Randy Couture. The point is, Mike Perry called him on his BS, and MJW went missing.
@@robiulahmed MJW actually just said if they met in person it would be interesting. After Perry called him the N word. Another point to be made is that every person who fights should believe thet can win otherwise what's the point.
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I can’t believe it’s controversial to say a heavyweight beats a bantamweight.
You know how many people I have seen get there ass beat by smaller and or weaker people a shitload ask Mike Tyson's opponents if size matters they were all bigger than him.
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The same with Rocky Marciano...and he was undefeated throughout his professional boxing career and was world heavyweight champion.
One of the best, according to many...he was very short for a heavyweight.
@@roybeckerman9253 height doesn’t equate to weight mike tysons big as fuck him and Sean o malley are the same height but mike tysons clearly way bigger bro
@@shawnsmith2610 you seem to have confused height with weight 🤔
@@roybeckerman9253 he was very short but in today's world of heavyweights, he'd get obliterated.
Marciano is so small that in today's weight class, he would be a crusier weight. He wouldn't be a light HEAVYWEIGHT.
What is he? Like 5'9 185lbs and slow.
Put him up against Lennox Lewis. 6'5-6'6 254lbs. Or fury 6'9 270lbs and fast.
RUMMY'S corner did an interview with late great trainer Emmanuel Stewart and he said that Rocky was great, but his talent couldn't be enuff to make up for the massive physical advantages of today's boxers. Especially if that boxer was fast.
I remember reading an article about Bruce Lee being asked if he can beat Muhammad Ali. He said Ali would win and listed all the factors. Bruce Lee was honest about himself and made improvements. Too bad he died young. I'm curious what he would have done in JKD development if he lived longer. Haduuken!
Agreed, although some of his fan boys said he was one modest or just in boxing others don't believe he said it at all
I think Bruce was being humble. And that was a boxing match no kicking
@@chozen0018 no he wasn't being humble
MAN!!! I got into a big fight when I was younger, I beat millions of other sperm to get into the egg! That was a great battle!
Hahahahahahaha.good one.Truley a good one.
@Asa Yagami i was told i was all alone,
my father told me🤣🤣🤣
Such an underrated joke !!!!
Bruce Lee worship is one of the biggest impediments in understanding JKD as he intended it.
The correct answer is, it depends on the situation, but yes Bruce Lee could definitely lose against him but nothing is guaranteed.
Because all things are not actually being equal
The Jack man fight is the reason why Bruce abandoned wing Chun
Finally someone with common sense
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And, I happen to be a lifetime JKD student.
There is literally no bloody way Bruce wins that fight. He wouldn't have the power to stop him and would be overwhelmed quickly by the bigger stronger man.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi In a padded ring, without shoes, we’re both fighters have a chance to study each other, and then face off, Bruce would have maybe a %10 chance of survival.
In a sudden violent encounter in a parking lot, on asphalt, with boots, I give Bruce about 50/50 because the only real play Lee would have is constant low line attacks to the knees and groin, with evasive footwork, and maybe a lucky fingerjab to the eyes.
He would have to fence with his feet, tap and run, there’s no other way for him to win
@@robertvondarth1730 MJW is way too skilled, your talking about the same techniques that MJW also knows. Its not like your talking about a boxer who never trained in self defense techniques.
It's pretty unfair to expect so much from Bruce Lee considering the martial contributions he's already made considering the time in history, his smaller frame, and his legacy. Beating someone significantly larger with proper sparring skill is too much to ask of almost everyone. Proof that if your life revolves around being tougher or more lethal than the other people you don't like will make you miserable. I'm afraid that Anglosphere culture can exacerbate this, which definitely includes Asian American men. I do HEMA but I learnt to manage my expectations and goals so that it's fun and not stressful.
I prefer to remember him as the man who transformed mystic monastery culture into a small business they teach people how to open in universities. he was the Ronald Mcdonald of karate schools all of them. there would be no ATA and no McDojos if he hadn't helped so much to systematize the business of teaching martial arts.
Bruce Lee should be remembered for his philosophical contributions and shining the light on training methods that lack pressure are inferior. Otherwise, that scene in 'once upon a time in Hollywood' is hilarious.
And totally disrespectful to Bruce Lee's memory, might I add.
@@echelon2k8 you got a link to the scene? I gotta see what folks say
@@echelon2k8 If any person feels hurt by that scene, that shows that it was time to ridicule the strange cult that people have built around Bruce Lee.
@@NotaNazgul So if they did the same disrespectful thing to Muhammad Ali's memory, you'd be perfectly fine with it?
@@echelon2k8 do you realize that Bruce has been parodied many times in film, video games and anime? Dragonball had a caricature of Bruce that gets beaten up by a child Goku in a fighting tournament, Fei Long and Marshall Law are both often portrayed as joke characters in the Tekken and Streetfighter games especially in their story cut scenes, once upon a time in Hong Kong cinema there were a slew of Bruceploitation films where kung fu movie directors would cast actors who bore a physical resemblance to Bruce Lee in order to capitalize off Bruce Lees fame, they would often market these films as authentic Bruce Lee films too, look up actors like Kim Tai Chung, Bruce Li, Bruce Lai, Dragon Lee, Bruce Le and gosh the list could go on, in fact... Game of Death was incomplete by the time of Bruce Lees death, they hired stuntmen like Kim Tai Chung, and the then unknown Yuen Biao and Yuen Wah to don stage make up and wigs to play Bruce in order to finish the film and they even still went on to make a sequel Game of Death 2 which featured a cardboard cut out of Bruce and clips from Way of the Dragon in the film to give the illusion that Bruce acted in the film, Donnie Yen and Sammo hung both also made films where they play caricatures inspired by Bruce called Enter the Fat Dragon... So you wanna talk about disrespectful, the very same people that praise him today also disrespectfully profited off his name and have portrayed him in a mocking manner before in the past, and mind you these were fellow Asian people, for all those that like to say, the reason Tarantino did that was because he's racist.
You beat me to it! I've been planning to do a video on MJW saying this on Rickey Smiley's show and then how DJ Vlad asks every single guest about it 7 years later.
I agree with Michael Jai white...still the biggest fan (lots of shirts of him)of Bruce lee and I’m sure a sparring session would be fun..but I think even he would admit (like he did with Muhammad Ali) that Jai White would win.
That is if you can take Robert Clouse at his word, the guy who also started the false rumor that Bruce Lee wanted to kill Bob Wall.
Bruce Lee actually taught me to "embrace my own potential", even though it was achieved in a significantly different way that anyone would think at the first glance...
I used to be BL's die-hard fan in the older days. I even studied Wing Chun for a couple of years (I know, I know...). I realized later, in a humiliating way, that WC was not the most useful fighting tool, when I tried to spar with a guy that did boxing. We didn't spar during WC classes, because - Sensei's words - "you cannot spar in WC, as it is meant to actually hurt someone, therefore sparring is out of question" ("it's for DA STREETZ, hell yeah!").
Yet the funniest thing from these times was that Sensei was telling stories that he went here and there, got into a bar fight, kicked someone's ass... These events happened very often and always "right after we separated" so that none of the students could see it. What a strange coincidence(s)!
So anyway, after this famous sparring with the guy that did boxing (not even a boxer), I thought to myself that perhaps it's time to grow up and as a result, I signed out of the "Cult of Bruce Lee" and never had any idols to worship ever since. I got bigger, got a job and got into urban exploration. And you know what? Even when visiting some old hotels, hospitals, bunkers, palaces, often at night and meeting homeless guys, drunks, there were no fights. Never. Ever. Yet real fights "happened" to my ex-Sensei all the time. In public, crowded places. Life can be full of surprises sometimes!
Now I know this story sounds like it was made up by some sworn BL hater, even I find it hard to believe and try to deny it (as it is downright embarrasing to me), but that's actually how it was. Unfortunately...
But hell, I'm much happier nowadays than back then anyway. And yet BL's movies are still fun!
I think any person who actually practiced for a while knows size matters a great deal. And yes of course so is skill, mindset and endurance. And they know no matter how good you are there is someone who is better than you. And yes that you are objectively better than some other people. Neither one these things makes you a better or worse human being
Great philosophy 👍
In Martial Arts size doesn't matter, it only matters in sport competition with rules, when there are no rules, size means nothing, if I poke out your eyeballs and you weigh 300 pounds and me 200 pounds? Too many people comparing true Martial Arts with Sport Competition, two different things altogether.
@@JENDALL714 so in your hypothetical situation where you're 100 lbs lighter and try an eye poke...what level of cognitive dissonance prevents you from making the inference that he can do that exact same thing to you, and much more effectively too, being 50% larger than you? The fact is, any "street" techniques go both ways. You can groin kick your opponent, sure, but can you execute it well enough to avoid getting clinched up and bitten in the neck? Or better yet for him, why can't he just grab your much lighter and weaker body, pick you up, and throw you head first onto the ground? Unless the guy you're fighting is both huge and clumsy af, you will get steamrolled with a size difference that big. Size always matters, dumbass, and it matters a LOT more on the street.
@@JENDALL714 go to any fighting gym try that on the biggest guy there and see if it works, I'll wait
@Dnomyar Akunawik punching isn’t the only way to strike with hands that can do massive damage which MJW and Bruce both knew
naw Bruce Lee one time kicked a punching bag filled with fire hydrants through a brick wall. My uncle knew a guy who saw him do that.
Doesn't matter. Size does matter. BL will lose in this fight.
My dog told me about that. He was having a piss against that fire hydrant.
@@luisvelazquez5420,
I did. I love BL but I'm not those cultist type that put him on a demigod pedestal. Are you one of those moron? I hope not.
@@luisvelazquez5420,
I didn't say any of that. I was responding to the guy above that BL will get wrecked by MJW because size does matter. Both of them are great actors and a respectable martial artists. But MJW win in this fight. No disrespect to BL but a fact is a fact. People who sees that BL is unbeatable are the disrespectful ones. BL never wanted that. Read his books. As he gets older he became a more humble kinda person. BL's cultists are nothing more than a bunch of butt licking garbage.
@@luisvelazquez5420,
It doesn't matter. I'm not talking about BL's past achievement. This video is about a fight between MJW and BL, and MJW clearly win this one.
MJW would handle Bruce fairly easily. He is a highly accomplished martial artist and he is insanely fit. Size doesn't matter if only one person knows how to fight. If both know how to fight, than size 100% matters.
Agreed. Bruce was a pioneer of modern martial arts, and for his time, he was definitely very profound and I’m sure he could handle his own in a fight, but MJW grew up in a different time period, with better training methods. He’s trained with professional fighters, he has trained in more efficient ways than what Bruce Lee had known or had access to 50 some years ago.
And I'd batter both put together. One dim mak is all it would take to finish both at the same time.
Yes, but there's still knowing how to fight and then knowing how to fight. Not all fighters are created equal. Also, don't forget that Bruce Lee was also a highly accomplished martial artist and insanely fit.
I think size always matters. Especially if the size is also with greater strenght
@@echelon2k8,
BL will get wrecked. Size does matter.
Ramsey with a cap?! NO WAY! What an amazing sight, trillions of people have died and will die without seeing this.
Nice cap, I like it, I like caps. You should wear it more on camera.
Ackshually... The very first time I saw Coach Dewey's face (courtesy of YT algorithm) years ago, he was wearing a cap, a flat cap to be precise, talking about when a black belt meant something "back in the daaaay" , and I think he donned it several times
He grew hair lol
We can’t see the whole hat though, it’s partially cut off my screen. We don’t know what’s on top
NO! indoor caps on middle-aged men project baldness insecurity! Ramsay has already embraced his iconic, perfect dome and must continue to be a beacon of self-acceptance for the rest of us losing our hair!
1:46 RAMSEY'S FACE!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Ramsey you might be right about people worshipping bruce lee. How ever you do not know who would win that fight. just because someone is bigger does not mean they can beat the smaller guy. and just because someone is an acter does not mean they cannot fight. do not forget you guys are doing a sport. there are no sports in a street fight. also people are worshipping Brazilian jujitsu. so you see there are plenty of worshippers.
@@michaelperrins2848 Bruce was a pioneer he was doing mma striking and graplling .
Most influencial marcial artist in the world .
I think mr Wite would beat bruce lee being that bruce was a more complete fighter both in skill and in mindset.
But White is so big strong and fast i think he would win (Fast for his size).
you spelled voto studios incorrectly.
HeeeyMexican Martial Arts is the dude!
Mma your cool 😎
I made my garage into a gym. Thanks for the push. 🙏✌
Oh nice man! Train hard
@@Testosterooster 🙏✌ thanks
I am a BIG Bruce Lee fan. But, not because I think he was the greatest fighter in the world but because his beliefs about the marital arts were way ahead of his time. He is like Einstein in that his ideas are now commonly accepted as valid but in his day, "Studying multiple styles" was blasphemy!
I stayed in and trained. You got me started some months ago, and today all the lifting and push ups paid off lol. Carrying heavy things from basement to trash at work and this has never felt this easy before. Thanks coach!
Size could matter or sometimes it doesn't matter. It all depends on each person or the individual.
Their is a reason why there are weight classes.
@@strikingitrich7630 Larry Hartsell (RIP) was one of Bruce Lee's students and was a lot physically bigger than him. Check out an old youtube clip of an interview where Larry admits that Bruce beat him so easily when they sparred with each other.
I saw a youtube clip where Ric Meyers did an interview with co-star Jim Kelly (RIP) from ETD, and Jim witnessed Bruce having friendly sparring matches with some of the cast members. Jim said that Bruce could spar with anyone at any size because he was that fast and that efficient.
I think the Bruce Lee haters simply have an agenda, and won't admit to Bruce's greatness.
@@hugh8861 No agenda. Just common sense. Stories are not verified fights.
@@strikingitrich7630 got that right
The only time size doesnt matter is if both opponents are relatively close. But you take someone 3 inches and 20 lbs heavier and it makes a huge differenc
Funny thing: I did a project for my speech and commune class and I made a very similar joke about the little Cult of Bruce Lee cancelling people who slander his name, because I was there to dispell with the crap, and the fact of the matter is that Bruce Lee cant take on 10 people at once, that was a movie.
It's as if people saw it as a child and thought "this is kung fu!" And couldn't ever let go of that perception
@@TaoistSwordsman Right? Like It gets quite old, people saying Bruce Lee is like this unbeatable whatever, but in reality, from the Tao Of Jeet Kun Do, because yes I did read it and Bruce Lee's Fighting Method, its not about who is the best, its about what Can you do to perfect the skills you have. Like come on people.
@@charrleschervanik3632 Well said, though this basic notion and logic of yours would very much upset the cult of personality of a certain weak-bodied standard person-actor (whom in his life particularly appreciated pumping his ego with glorifying set-up movies about his imaginary combat prowess).
@@charrleschervanik3632 Hey, its actually not a style. Thought you read the book? Its a scientific and philosophical approach to fighting. The book has more to do with breaking personal barriers than anything else.
@@caiusmadison2996 Never did I say it was a style, nor have I used the the term Style.
Michael Jai White has videos from his teenage years compete in Karate tournaments and he already looks so good while Bruce only have 1 sparring clip with his student
There's a one inch punch clip as well 😂
@@Linebecken Stop challenging the great master
@@Linebecken phone book... no hit back
Bruce Lee obviously rigged that spar too, there's not a chance he filmed himself sparring his own student without asking said student to make it look good for Bruce beforehand.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Stop challenging the great master :)
I agree with you. MJW would have a good chance of beating Lee, but let me add this. Lee himself named two karate fighters that he said would have a good chance against him, and he didn't ever want to test that - Jim Harrison and Mike Stone. I believe. I can think of another, Gene Labell would rag-doll him. I was fortunate to learn several of Lee's techniques through Joe Lewis, so I understand that there is no magic there. Just genetic awesome speed and explosive power, along with a great work ethic.
Docinaplane * * * * *Your reply is interesting to say the least *
I never heard this story about Harrison and Stone. Lee was also a very smart guy and knew
how to be humble. For me that's important.
In the 1970's I remember they interviewed Bruce Lee, and asked him how he thought he would do in the Boxing Ring with the then Light Weight Boxing World Champion ROBERTO DURAN ! (Same Weight as Lee)
Bruce answered with humility and great respect for Duran . I sure can't make a quote as it was near 50 years ago that I seen this interview... Lee said something like this " Duran is training to fight champion level boxers
and I (Lee) am making movies !
Hope all is well and good for You
Your Pal
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@@PunchProfessor Thank you, Paul!! Love the Lee quote! I imagine Lee was very keen on being a movie star and worked hard at that, but as you say, was humble and respectful as a martial artist. Peace, Jeff
PS: From Jim Harrison's obit: "Bruce Lee was once quoted as saying: “I fear no man, but Jim Harrison and Mike Stone are the last two men that I would wish to meet in an alley fight. Jim Harrison’s fighting style is not flamboyant or spectacular, it’s just simple and deadly! He’s one of the most dangerous men in the world.”
My view as a JKD instructor: Bruce Lee was someone who was in fact ahead of his time in martial arts, in what regards training methods (sparring, focus mitts and heavy bag training, conditioning, nutrition). In the world of martial arts in the 60's and 70's almost nobody trained with a scientific approach. Also at a technical level, Bruce Lee brought different approach, combining boxing, light footwork and kicking, different from the more static Karate approach. Bruce Lee's approach would have a big influence in American Kickboxing. Also at a philosophical level, the idea that styles are limiting and you should be able to express yourself was also something new. Having said all that above, I don't think that BL was a super man that he would defeat Mike Tyson like some fan boys say. Finally the latest stage of JKD is a great martial art, different from other striking arts and in a way it's still very effective martial art, even with all the evolution in martial arts in the past40 years.
Bruce Lee beat bolo Young and he probably had about the same size advantage as Michael Jai White has.
Bruce Lee is like your friend that's a traditional martial artist that messes around with his mma friends, he knew some stuff but his style isn't that much better
@@ricardobell2698 That was a movie fight…
@@ricksterdrummer2170 I read that they sparred off camera and Bruce annihilated him to the point he became a student of Bruce.
I believe he had a superior sparring method also that was coming to age. It would of been what TKD should be with the use of lower kicks. Unfortunately. RIP
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 Church of JKD, they got some sensitive feelings there. DUDE!!! YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE SO... right. 😔
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Honestly Bruce Lee is a featherweight Michael is a heavyweight, anyone can do the math
@@jayandrews2803 they choose not to
He didnt say he was better, he said he was larger
but that is a big advantage to have though
@@Guile1117
Yeah thats the point
The big man small man argument was solved thousands of years ago ,when a little Stone Age man faced a big Stone Age man .Said screw that and smacked the big guy on the head with a rock lol
More like he figured out how to craft and use a spear ...then he figured out diplomacy and lead an army of men with spears
@Pallani
It’s battle
If size didn't matter, we wouldn't have weight classes in combat sports.
The first few UFC had no weight classes.
@@RicoMnc UFC has weight classes now. But that was a crazy time, the early days of UFC.
@@RicoMnc those people that fought weren't that far off from each other's weight anyway, if someone as small as Bruce would have entered he would have been koed
@@Guile1117 That is most likely, but sometimes there are exceptional fighters who overcome great odds.
Watch the documentary "Choke", it is here on YT, a guy about Bruce's size makes it to the finals against Rickson Gracie after very courageous, if not insane efforts to defeat much larger opponents.
He was a Japanese judoka with Japanese pro-wrestling experience.
After losing to Rickson he trained BJJ and many years later earns his black belt despite having lost sight in one of his eyes due to participating in that fight tournament. Never fought professionally again tho', I think.
@@RicoMnc ya but that those guys were proven fighters, Bruce was not, it happens but rarely
Great... i had the perfect excuse but now i have to do push up XD
I did 20 push ups, but segmented into 2×10 with a rest in between and they weren't actual push ups because I can't do them so I did an easier variant. I'll be back at it and I will do these 50 push ups today!
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@@wacko37 what?
Nice my friend keep it up 👍
Bruce Lee had a history of street fighting and was a boxing champion in shanghai the whole reason he had to leave China was that he really hurt someone in a fight,
With high fight iq and affinity for fighting "dirty" I firmly believe bruce could mitigate whites natural size advantage 6 or 7/10 times
Bruce Lee never set foot in China! The man never, ever visited Shanghai. He spent his childhood in British Hong Kong.
@@RamseyDewey well that's a critical error but everything else I said is true, I got my places mixed up.... Can't believe I got a direct reply!!! Huge fan BTW 🤩🤩🤩🤩
The cult of Jimi among rock guitarist is similar, except there is a lot more evidence of Hendrix's guitar playing than there is of Bruce fighting.
And you can sum both up the same way: They did innovative and interesting things, put on a great performance, and we lost them too soon.
Bruce focused on self defense part of fighting real fighting not sport
@@illkid86 he dabbled in the self defense part. He FOCUSED on fight choreography.
You should host "UNSOLVED MYSTERIES". VOICE is perfect.
Yes 👍
Or record bedtime stories. His voice is so soothing, he could tell me a family member died and I’d feel ok hahahaha
I once fought Bruce Lee in the Kumite and he was no better than a white belt. He kept dropping his guard so I kept landing strikes on his face. I won by technical knockout after landing a Dim Mak on his K9 pressure point. I made it to the semi finals but lost to Frank Dux.
I loved Blood Sport it was a good movie
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I weighed about 135 through most of high school. So now I’m just imagining a 235lb man beating up a high school kid. I don’t care how skilled that kid is, that doesn’t look good.
Bruce can't do anything about his size but mustered everything for strength. Bruce Lee might get scared of muhammad ali but actually he has same punching power as muhammad ali.
Bruce Lee would have loved Michael Jai White, because of his blazing speed for His size. Michael honestly expressed his opinion. Bruce Lee was a trailblazer, that’s why he’s a legend.
Michael J White also later said that Bruce was and still is his hero
Also I don't think Bruce Lee ever mastered a martial arts. MJW is in his 50s and has been training since 13.
He's been at it longer than Bruce Lee was alive.
whe should also note that Michael Jay white is 53 years old and still learning martial art so he have way more knoledge in martial art than bruce lee
Only because Bruce Lee is dead. Bruce himself studied different Martial Arts and trained with friends that boxed, trained Karate, Judo and Jujitsu, and Filipino Arts. Bruce would be 81 if he was still alive. Not weighing in on the who could beat who debate, though.
@@darrenkey207 okay but MJW trains in the same things and he's bigger than Bruce
You know....that is a valid point
It's amazing how far people's biases will delude them into thinking someone can beat a guy 100 lbs heavier (lean) with technically more martial art credentials. I've probably spent hours trying to get through to them that weight classes exist.
Thanks for covering this!
In Bruce's situation I don't care about his weight class ,it's his credentials...I'd put money on Diaz vs the Rock but then again we are talking about the proven Diaz brothers while Bruce actually has no credible evidence of pro fighting history
@Hoosayne Lol! Oh man, that takes me back. It's been a long time since I've visited the Goku vs. Superman page. After that universe shaking feat with Beerus, I felt I had nothing more to prove. Some DC fans conceded and I left. You might see me on some Geekdom101 manga spoiler/review comment threads sometimes, but I haven't had interest in much else DB community related.
Have you been doing alright? Thanks for the shout out.
Royce Gracie himself said that for every 20 lbs someone has on you, you have to be one belt above him to even break even.
then explain how one of the Gracies was able to choke out people twice his size. that was oldschool ufc before there were weight classes
@@cedricbauman9537 Those bigger people were not nearly as experienced as Gracie on the ground. As I said before, it's about size *and* credentials/skill. Outside of a high school boxing match, Bruce Lee has no competition record. There's no evidence that he mastered any style. But Michael Jai White has 8 black belts and been in Karate tournaments. He has trained in martial arts like twice as long as Bruce Lee at this point. Then on top of that, he is literally twice his size. All of the evidence is clear.
The only way Lee beats a man that size is if the guy is a talentless, walking tomato can with no more than 6 months of training. That's not what Michael Jai White is.
Did the 50 pushups.
At the start of this year I stopped lying to myself about my level of fitness and weight, "I'm not out of shape or overweight, it wasn't that long ago that I could do 20+ pull ups, 53 push ups in a minute, 200 squats in a row etc.." That was 5 years ago, I've gained 40 pounds of fat during that time, can't even do 40 pushups without breaks anymore.
Lost 25 lbs in 3 months, really suprised just how easy it has been.
I think it wouldve been cool to hear Bruce's opinion about combat sports. I imagine, from what ive read about him, that he would probably appreciate those athletes for getting out there and putting their skills to the test.
You are 100% correct and yes I did train today. 37 years of training and going!
"But would X martial artist be able to defeat Y dead martial artist?" I, for one, hate wasting time on pointless questions.
But you'll waste time on pointless comments?
@@zacgonzales5883 Only if they manage to attract pointless replies.
@@CanaleAV That was smooth.
You are just in the middle level my young padawan. The entry level goes as 'can my friend/relative beat your friend/relative' and the final level, or master degree in bullshiterology is 'can fictional super hero defeat another fictional super hero'. Also, once choosing a side you cannot switch it or else you will be killed for your sin !
@@CanaleAV in which you go and reply to said pointless reply?
This idea that no martial artist either during Bruce Lee’s lifetime, before it, or after it can ever beat him is asinine, and if Bruce Lee himself lived long enough to become old and wise, he would be able to admit this himself. It’s silly to think one man can beat everyone that ever has and ever will exist. Martial Arts is always evolving. Period
Your point at 12:10 is FACTS and that’s what I try to tell ppl all the time lol
He didn't ever say he was an invincible superhuman. He said Ali would destroy him.
Seems like too much people sae the movies and thought they were documentaries
@@kyubeycoobie3568 that’s a fact
@@thedaarkwulf1137 Yes like it's not even down to size. Ali was a better fighter and he knew it. That's why he studied and learnt a lot from him
Bruce Lee's fan cult is giving him a bad name
@@kyubeycoobie3568 you also have to keep in mind that the majority of the vocal Bruce Lee fans know exactly nothing about fighting, and believe in the nonsensical mysticism of Eastern arts.
I mean there are still countless people on TH-cam here who still believe Bruce Lee played table tennis with nunchaku.
the You Tuber RealBruceLeeFight just levitated off the ground his head spun 360 degrees and he projectile vomited green stuff all over his bedroom walls because you dared to say that Bruce Lee was unconquerable by any mere mortal in a fight... but seriously look that guy up, he s exactly what you just described. I've shown him R Ramseys demonstration as to why the one-inch punch can be done by anyone etc. He has a mind like a steel trap.
Last thing. His most important fight (call it sparring w/e) for people to know, is being held down by Gene Label's grappling. And how he realised what he was doing wrong and learnt, instead of excusing it
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i sometimes wonder if Bruce Lee would accept Gracie challenge if he lived longer, and how much would it change his conception of fighting.
@@Endru85x idk how it would go but he learnt grappling and wrestling with Gene Label and some jiu-jitsu, so it wouldn't be like those strikers. Lee could kickbox and grapple (not sure how much grappling or if it would be enough tho) but yes I do think he would accept the challenge
Bruce realized his JKD was ineffective if the fight goes to the ground from Gene Labelle.
He only trained for about a year with Gene,so he barely scratched the surface.
@@heartfanjim01 you sure he only trained with Gene for a year? Was Bruce even using the term Jeet Kune Do when he trained with Gene, or was he still saying Gung Fu? Even if just for a year, something major could've come into his mindset or skills. Gene said he incorporated striking techniques he learned from Bruce into his teaching after they met
The problem with stating that you're better than Lee is that self improvement was his life. He was also a humble man, never claiming to be better, just be adaptable.
Regardless of either side, we'll never really know until Lee claws his way away from death and beats up anyone in his way.
@Max Payne The guy also replaced the sand in his punching bag with dry concrete mix at his wife's request. We have a lot of people to corroborate this, including all the people he trained. He also had to spar with Norris for his third movie so they could properly choreograph the fight. When interviewed later on who would actually win a bout, Norris asserted without hesitation Lee would.
Then again, like said before, we'll never really know and might as well argue if you can beat up a Roman centurion.
@Joseph Leisses Norris was extremely humble to say that
@@josephleisses3997
What? I saw Chuck Norris answer to this question by saying "I was a professional fighter, he was not" which strongly imply Chuck believe he would've won even if he is not saying it literally.
@Max Payne no one is untouchable in combat it hit and get hit
Buuuulshit! He was literaly an opium addict!! He died young !!!
MJW wouldn’t exist without a Bruce Lee-- he doesn’t respect the LEGEND.
Yes. After Bruce Lee created day and night, he went on to invent entertainment overall and martial arts movies in specific. Those were good days. Show some respect for Bruce Lee, everyone!
What're next Europeans wouldn't exist without leaving Africa?
What's next ? The sun wouldn't exist without Bruce 🤣
The JKD Police will immediately arrest anyone who dares even think that Bruce Lee was not invincible
As a JKD practitioner we don’t claim these people 😂
He was invincible, right up until he died...he died of being too invincible.
@@joshuabean9409 it’s so bizarre how people like that think and Bruce (Rest his soul) would have disagreed with them completely yet they still whine on and on
There is a reason Boxing, wrestling, powerlifting, and MMA have weight classes. Assuming both fighters are trained, the one that has 100+ lb advantage is going to win.
Generally speaking at least, just ignore the Bob Sapp videos from Japan. Though I guess we can debate on whether Bob was ever a skilled fighter, to begin with.
@@shinjig he really wasn't a good fighter at all, he was decent, but even though he trained in martial arts, he only used his strength to win, hardly ever to no skill or technique
Bruce wasn’t “130lbs” at his prime. He was 130lbs at his unhealthiest.
I do agree with that he was 145 in his prime
Even if MJW weighed 132 lbs he would still beat Bruce. Bruce Lee was an actor. next people with be asking if superman or batman could beat Mike Tyson. come on guys this is foolish.
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Can you do a video on teep vs side kick. In Sanda they use the sidekick like a jab whereas in thai boxing they use the teep like a jab. Pros and cons of each? Thanks dude!
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What's your opinion on Savate? Considering its huge growth in popularity since 2010, I would like to hear your opinion on its applicability in actual fights.
do you have any opinion on "Indian clubs" for exercise?
I live in North America and I have never met anybody who has trained with them. But they seem like a popular training tool in Southern India, parts of the middle east, parts of Japan, and maybe elsewhere.
Do you think swinging clubs is a better or worse way to exercise than conventional weight training, for any given martial art? A useful tool to supplement weight training? any efficacy beyond just being an activity that makes you sweat?
Bruce said Ali would kill him
'Look at my hand, that's a little chinese hand. He'd kill me'
He tried to be as honest as possible to get better all the time.
Like when he started studying judo and grappling bc he got humbled.
Ali fighting style is limited, and he fights defensively. it hard to lose against a short opponent in boxing
How did you know bruce said that? I'm not an offended Bruce lee fan I'm just curious?
Apparently (something I heard from a close friend) Ali said that without a ring Bruce would beat him? I got nothing to back this up.
@@Yng_Roshi The Enter the Dragon director Robert Clause said Bruce admitted he couldn't beat Ali.
He had alot of power bro
He say that of insult..
Ali was black his genetic help him but bruce achieve all of it by himself and training of fingers and 100 way to achieve more power in his hand and His back (cobra)
"Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own.” -Bruce Lee
@@johnboyjordan1915 and he probably took it from someone else.
So don't absorb bullshit ahah
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Hello Ramsey, I somewhat recently got a medical condition and lost 13kg and most of my strength, for example I can't do a single pull-up or a single press-up. How would you recommend building up to these exercises as I feel pathetic.
Bruce had Chi ...he was born with it, his power was unmeasurable and his speed unmatched...MJW is a great martial artist but he would never beat Bruce Lee
Is this a serious comment? “气” （qi/chi) means air, breath, or gas.
Bruce Lee was like what 135lbs? That due would get crushed even by non-Martial Art dudes...
There were people getting angry at Chuck Norris for saying that Bruce can't compete with him in real life because of the fact that Chuck actually competed and won in real tournaments and the fact that Chuck is a much bigger man. The Bruce Lee fanbois are beyond help. This one time I ran into one of them and when I commented that Bruce Lee has no actual competition record, he looked like he was going to have a heart attack.
There's the other extreme too where these well known TH-cam commentators were saying that even they could beat up a 125 lb Bruce Lee, or the awful representation of Bruce by Tarantino. Bruce was probably a super lean 140 when he was healthy and before he had the pain killer issues and couldn't eat properly. In his last movie, he was unable to eat properly and overworking so much that he was down to a frail 125 lbs when he had drug complications and died when they were afraid to call the hospital because he was at another woman's house. So yeah, probably anybody could beat a dying 125 lb Bruce Lee.
so drug complications caused the brain enema or something that killed him? And are you saying he was off on an affair while this happened?
Maaan, if that’s true... damn. Add that on top of the total cynicism the martial arts community has developed toward him and Bruce seems just to be a big con of a man who also has shitty morals.
Jesus, okay, like Bruce Lee worshippers are a problem, but I feel like people in the martial arts community have been influenced by backfire effect and now say everything about Bruce was shit as a reaction. And it’s not racist, but you can’t blame people for bringing race into it, because Bruce is like, the only reason Chinese culture has any semblance of tolerance or respect in the West. Which is why there are sensitive feelings around his reputation.
Lo, and Ramsey spaketh of the Prophet Bruce Lee and verily, many butts were hurt.
People get fuckin spergy about Lee, man...
bruce lees pound for pound strength was insane. people keep forgetting that.
People keep embellishing Bruce Lee’s strength and making up stuff about it. The only real information we have about how strong Lee was consists of a copy of his old gym card where he recorded the numbers of his lifts. Lee’s biggest lift was a 90lb squat for 10 reps.
@@RamseyDewey again u have zero proof that dan inosanto would be some idiot who would lie for bruce. credible witnesses makes it true. otherwise u better not believe ANY history at all. and that would be insanely absurd if you did that. look at louis cyr, never even trained for the back press, but did 4300lbs which was the record until a canadian farmer who trained for like 10 years just to beat his record, and he did with 5300lbs. some people have natural freakish strength. u gotta realize that.
@@RamseyDewey that was when he started strength training in 1968, he later on incorporated obercoming isometrics with the ISO chain and became very strong, there is a pic of him one arm over head pressing a barbell with 95 lbs aprox
I got philosophy, physics and a workout routine all packed in a 15 minute video. Talk about time well spent.
The idea that "size doesn't matter" is crazy. Why do you think they have weight divisions in all the fighting disciplines. For example, Floyd Mayweather Jr is arguably the greatest boxing technician in history BUT he wouldn't stand a chance against Anthony Joshua.
If you've ever watched the movie mean girls... that's what the jkd community reminds me of
Hahahahahaha!
It’s funny because it’s true!
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In the 1970's I remember they interviewed Bruce Lee, and asked him how he thought he would do in the Boxing Ring with the then Light Weight Boxing World Champion ROBERTO DURAN ! (Same Weight as Lee)
Bruce answered with humility and great respect for Duran . I sure can't make a quote as it was near 50 years ago that I seen this interview... Lee said something like this " Duran is training to fight champion level boxers
and I (Lee) am making movies !
Good Job with this Topic/Video
Paul
Do you have a link of the interview? Would love to share it
@@leroyalflush5026 * * * * * It was in the 1970's near 50 yrs ago. Was on television and in those days there were only 3 major tv channels ~ ABC NBC & CBS ~ must have been one of them, yet even that I ain't sure. I do remember they told Bruce Lee how Duran admired him. Then they asked~ well how do you think you would do in the ring with him?
Bruce with respect and humility gave that reply I posted above !
I have trained with Duran, partied, and gambled with him too.
I was in Seattle when they buried Bruce, and went to his funeral.
Big Bruce Lee fan = Me, Duran too !
@@PunchProfessor that's amazing,would only wish to find the link but the Lee foundation probably destroyed all evidences of the footage
In his own book, Bruce Lee wrote about the advantage of size difference. It's a reality.
Bruce Lee is untouchable
At what? He's hardly superhuman.
This is like putting a lion and a buffalo to fight and expect the lion to win without killing the buffalo, size only matters when the fight is in a ring and rules are involved. A heavier opponent also comes with disadvantages in the art of combat
@@UnjustVerdict its an advantage if you're fighting small unskilled combatants, when the fight isn't for sports size can be a weakness for the elements which favors the small oppositions. we've seen this in nature all the time
Micheal Jai white competed in kyokushin and kickboxing. That alone puts him above Lee in skill.
Kyokushin is a great style but it doesn't just magically make everyone who trains in it unbeatable. I've seen kyokushin guys get knocked out by taekwondo fighters.
@@jackslater5886 sure but wouldn't that apply to Bruce Lee as well? Most of his street fights were school yard brawls rather than martial arts travel matches.
@@wanabisufi8843 it sure does, Bruce and Michael are in the same category as far as I'm concerned. Both incredibly skilled and probably dangerous guys but neither with an official fight record so all just speculation at the end of the day.
There's videos of MJW fighting tournaments Kuyokushin Karate on U tube. He also trained boxing and holds a black belt in BJJ
Yea for me I have to go with white bc we KNOW what he can really do and see clear clean video footage of what his body is capable of. Bruce lee all we have is low quality footage from 40-50 years ago and a bunch of anecdotes
@@jlogan2228 bruce lee simply is not anywhere big enough to make it competitive
@@gottaproxy8826 his fan boys don't realize that
The general public, and martial artist alike, have elevated Bruce Lee's status to legend. Bruce Lee's intent was to be a better martial artist, not the greatest fighter. He was the first Asian superstar, that challenged tradition not only in the world of martial arts, but in the world of acting, in a time where there were no Asian superstars in the west.
That's sort of lying too. Bruce Lee had a massive ego and definitely wanted to be seen as better than everyone, especially in his films.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 whats wrong with that he was unsecured guy
He didn't like people talk sh!t on him. Life is about expression
@@wacko37 speak english please
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 you seem racist fuck u
@@illkid86 cry
The only time I find it annoying is when people say Bruce was not a major influence on the martial arts world. That's sort of like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger was not an influence on bodybuilding. Sure Ronnie Coleman was bigger... pound for pound, but the name Schwarzenegger will be remembered for the ages. Same as Bruce Lee. They were icons! As far as who could beat who in a fight... Even my traditional Wing Chun instructor Augustine Fong would say... "A bigger stronger skilled man will always beat the smaller man."
Thanks for the inspiration Ramsey!!! BooooM!!!
ya he wasn't the greatest fighter ever, but he did alot for MArtial arts
Both skilled, but are they skilled the same way? We saw Bruce perform one inch punch, and seemingly impossible moves. Fact that that his speed and endurance was extraordinary. Michael is big and strong, but we never know if he could keep up with bruce.
What seemingly impossible moves? The one inch punch is not difficult to do. What else? His two finger pushups? I know a lot of little guys that can make that look easy. The less you weigh, the easier it is. What else?
@@RamseyDewey for example kicking someone in the face so fast he did not have time to notice it. Ok i know cameras werent as capable back then. Im not saying that he would win, just that we should not underestimate someone based on size alone. Bob Sapp is very big, was beaten many times by much smaller guys
@@spyware1100 but we never seen him do any of that though let alone seen it happen in a fight, and Bob Sapp is known to throw his fights and he's much of fighter either most pros could beat him he's just not good
You're a child fighting a child, sums up the useless bully fights in schools. It's really not a final boss or a beat em up videogame. It's just kids letting out steam because of school stress, home stress and personal problems. As for Jai White winning, he has the build and technique to beat anyone as long as it's a fair fight and nothing dirty. Also I'm doing 50 push ups now after this comment.
Size does matter that's why we have weight classes. Michael Jai White would be my favorite in a fight with the little Dragon however I've seen tiny guys knock out bigger men. In a REAL fight I'd pick White. We'll NEVER know because the little Dragon is in paradise. OSU and respect. Incidentally MJW has REAL street credit back home. Osu 🙏🏼🐅🐉
Hasn't Ramsey previously given a story about an small old master who kicked his ass repeatedly.
Little guys can knock out bigger unskilled men and even then it's rare, but a significantly bigger skilled man 99.99% of the time will beat the living daylights out of the smaller man.
@@Linebecken say what 😳
Don't fight the temptation! We wanna hear the rap!
Bruce Lee is the greatest martial artist. No one is saying that he's not but he's not beating Michael Jai White, he's very fast especially considering his size, he's most likely more powerful (because science) and he's very well experienced in martial arts and fighting. Bruce Lee will forever be the greatest but he's still a human being who can be beaten.
Nobody can beat Bruce Lee. As MJW a striker, what if Bruce Lee tackled him on the ground and choked him as his art Jeet Kune Do consists of Punching, Kicking, Trapping and Grappling.
You’re not going to like hearing this, but Bruce Lee was not a good grappler.
@@MichaelHaddad-wf1wnhave you ever done any kind of grappling in any capacity before?
What are your thoughts on Karate Combat, Ramsey? I've seen a few bouts and it looks super cool, kinda like watching a computer game like Street Fighter II, but then on closer inspection you can see how often the fighters find themselves out of position, and the poor footwork makes it look clumsy. Very interested to hear your thoughts!
If you combine boxing with karate you'd have a pretty effective stand up style
"You got out there and trained, right?" *curls his dumbbell in approval in front of the computer* I am my own gym (plus some assorted weights) :P Doing pull exercises as I write this.
Bruce Lee was a pioneer of modern martial arts, he was ahead of his time for sure, definitely talented and a good fighter for his time. MJW however has so much more at his disposal now than Bruce ever had. He’s trained with ufc fighters, and has grown up in a time where we know more about fighting and training, and what works vs what doesn’t. To me, this is like comparing an old classic car to a modern sports car. The classic car is timeless, ahead of it’s time, and back in the day, it was great, but time is the great divider and the classic car just can’t hold up to the new car and what the engineers have and know now that they didn’t 50 years ago or so.
Bruce Lee " unless Man has third arm or leg. Fighting is fighting"
Just gonna say that if we were talking about who would win between stipe miocic vs and henry cejudo there would be no argument about stipe winning that fight because it's a 235lbs man vs a 135lbs man but because it's bruce lee everyone argues.
Ya iv never understood that
Not only 100 lbs size difference but lee was 5'8" white is 6'1". Lee would not have the power necessary to actually hurt white without having to really wind up and throw full force , then you have to remember hed be punching upward, hitting a man who is VERY solid and thick built, and can also move very fast and agile for being so large. So lee may have a speed and mobility advantage but theres no way in hell hed be taking white out as easily as people think just based on his Kung Fu movies.
Not saying who would win or thay nonsense but how do you know bruce couldn't hurt jai white when alll the people he sparred with said he hit like a heavyweight . No doubt he would hurt him bad if he hit him.. His side kick and jab was like a heavyweight
MJW could actually kick Bruce Lee's ass though
I want to see Bruce Lee vs Michael Jai White piloting mechs.
Omg yes 👍 😍 🙌 😭 👏
Size matters. That's the universal truth in our universe.
Speed matters more, ask bullets.
@@mmurmurjohnson2368 so a gun beats all, is that what you're saying
Stewie Griffin I'm saying that in a fight speed trumps size proportionately, i.e. A fighter 3x faster against a 2x heavier opponent has a significant advantage. The best strikers train for 2 second fight ending scenarios ((much like a gun fight, who hits who first and decisively with consequential penetration and stopping power)), any longer than 3 seconds and you're waisting your time as a striker ((my opinion)), you should focus on grappling, and Bruce was well above average speed.
@@mmurmurjohnson2368 I'm saying none of anything matters if you have a gun 😆
It's like asking who would win in a fight (boxing) between Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather jr?
The truly stupid among us will insist on discussing the question as if it is a legitimate question.
I do appreciate your take on this Ramsey, at least you are honestly expressing your opinions by applying your knowledge of fighting, so I must respect your comparatives.
Let's respect him for the contributions he made towards martial arts
I personally have no issue with that. He was an action cinema pioneer. He was a martial arts pioneer. He challenged social attitudes of the time and became a hero to many people.
That should be enough for anyone.
@The Crazy Amateur Runner He basically popularized cross training in martial arts, but certainly, despite his legion of weird cultists, did not invent cross training. There were plenty of "mixing styles and seeing what works" before Bruce Lee (e.g. Kajukenbo was founded in 1947 when Bruce Lee was only 6 or 7)
Claims around him being the "Grandfather of MMA" though are laughable and pure hyperbole. Dana White is a fanboy who collects samurai swords and vintage action movie posters as much as anything.
I mean, Vale Tudo matches were happening in Brazil when Bruce Lee was a little kid, and it took 20 years after Bruce Lee died for the first UFC to happen. And the guys who caused that to happen were the Gracies, who had zero influence or association with Bruce Lee or JKD.
@BigJohn Hansome same about Anderson Silva.
@@iorekby Combat sambo was in USSR before Bruce was even born.
Goju ruy is one of the oldest karate styles from Okinawa and it has grappling, takedowns and even ground fighting,with a punches and kicks.
So yes,saying "Bruce Lee is a founder ofMM" is kinda over-exaggeration.
@@alexferrana3979 I agree with all your points. IMO if Bruce Lee were alive today, he'd probably be embarrassed by all the delusional fanboy fiction they created around the guy. He was a talented performer and action star who changed cinema and was obviously passionate about martial arts. But he wasn't some unbeatable fighter, and the man himself even admitted that (he said Ali would beat him in a fight).
It's his fanboys that created this weird cult around him and talk nonsense which makes me cringe.
It’s like talking bad about Race, LGBT, Anime and Bruce Lee is a trigger to everybody
You comparing talking bad about "race" and LGBT to talking bad about Bruce Lee says more about you then about anything else ;)
Bruce Lee: the real polarizing political issue of our times.
MJW can literally break a bags chain from a hoping sidekick and kick burst a bag with a roundhouse kick (that’s not joke btw the last one, leather bag burst one kick no joke)
The guy is 6'1" 230 lbs and built like wargreymon from digimon.
@@KWillo yea and that’s another reason why Bruce Lee gets his face smashed in on top of that
@@w8ngr Exactly.People seem to omit the size thing when it comes to Bruce Lee.Being that I'm a michael jai white fan, it's easy to say I'm biased in this case.🤷🏿♂️
@@KWillo I’m biased too but we aren’t wrong in anything we are saying
You know why there are Chuck Norris jokes and not Bruce Lee jokes? Cause if you said those things about Bruce Lee, people would believe them
That is true
One thing is for sure: Bruce Lee's "quality" of movement is much more enjoyable to watch on screen than MJW or Jet Li or Donnie Yen or Jackie Chan or Tony Jaa or Van Damme or Segal (lol) or anyone else. Bruce had the one quality I've never beheld in ANY other martial arts movie star: PURE originality! Movement that looks like it owes nothing to any particular "style". When I watch the rest of them, I know I'm looking at "Karate", "Kung Fu", "Aikido", "Wing Chun", etc. But when I watch Bruce move, all I can see is Bruce Lee's PURE self-expression.
He's been often imitated but NEVER duplicated! There'll never be another who can match Bruce on THAT!! Just my humble opinion...
Let's be clear about the two. In the 70s, Bruce was the man. From the 90s on up, Mr. White is the shit.
Bruce devised "the art of fighting without fighting," i. e., JKD. MR. White studied many styles of martial arts and many black belts. If he's that good, he'd be like Guru Inosanto.
I do remember some of Bruce's students talking about actually trying to shut the kid up. Some of those kids were over 225, 215, and so on. Bruce, cleaned the floor with them.
Bruce belived point fighting
was useless. He's right. Take all the rules out and find out who's the better fighter.
My money is e Bruce. I'll tell you why. Did he not mention that JKD will always evolve? There's no set standard for it. JKD isn't the gospel truth. I stand corrected. The basis is Wing Chun Kung Fu. From there, anything else is whatever. My JKD is going to be different than urs. Mr. White's fighting style is different from Bruce's. So who's better? I'd say Bruce. Even if he got, beat, he'd want to learn bc he didn't want to get beat again. Absorb what is useful, discard what is not.
MJW would also eat up Dan Inosanto, at any age you prefer.
He is bigger. Might be a fight in his favor.
But MJW also claimed Shaolin is not real because Shaolin tempels got destroyed and therefore all Shaolin are not real.
It kind of depends on the way you look at it.
@@cuzz63 what?
@@maddinkn Its like the Ninja's. Or Greek Pankration. The ancient schools and techniques are lost. Any of the modern ones arent really connected to the ancient. The Shaolin Temple in China is a tourist spot.
Bruce Lee actually has more accolades in cha cha dancing than combat sports competition. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.
Actually that's very true.
Dancing is good for fighting, works wonders with Loma
Surprised this is still coming up. I'm Bruce Lee's size and train in JKD concepts and even I know size matters. I even did light sparring with heavy weights and luckily it was light sparring in a controlled gym because they can always take any of my hits just like me getting hit from say a 12 year old kid. It's not good or bad, it's just physics. Martial arts is about self discovery, not really about fighting in the long run.
Good to know you know what martial arts is, people seem to not know the difference between martial arts and fighting
Your dissection of the Bruce Lee / JKD cult is also how I sincerely feel about religion. What you say in this video applies to the dismantling of any illusions or irrational thought.
However, I value fiction & symbolism & feel that, like religion, they have their place in inspiring others (like celebrities can do).
A personal example: When I was young, I idolized Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Van Damme, and, yes, also Bruce Lee, who all represented the sensational & celebrated - and they did inspire me to train, even to this very day!
But in idolizing them, I undervalued my "mere" parents for "only" dealing with the mundane, like giving me life, love, food, clothing, shelter, & education. I also undervalued my teachers & friends.
Illusions like celebrity idolatry are like young love / lust but turned into a belief system. They are what put Trump in office and what fuel some American voters into thinking the Rock would make a great president despite no proof of being qualified. It’s what makes us overlook scientists who make vaccines. (See how I incorporated recent news into this comment?).
Even Bruce Lee himself is recorded on-camera in his Pierre Burton interview saying he resented being called a "superstar" and that being so celebrated was an illusion, saw himself publicly as an actor and would've loved to have been called a "super actor".
There really is no distinction between cults & religions except the passage of enough time to be retrospectively logical. And like religion, it's often the followers that become crazed themselves and push the notion of infallibility while the figurehead might not.
Being a religious person yourself, I don’t see you as crazed per se but what you say about the JKD cult can also apply directly to criticisms of religious faiths (all, not just yours). But like I said, I understand the value of symbolism & other forms of inspiration, the impacts of which can’t be summated with facts. But I also don’t confuse them with logical thinking & facts.
I say this with the utmost respect, Coach Ramsey.
This is MY honest expression of self.
For the record, I maintain a “live & let live” approach to people of different perspectives, including religion or celebrity fanaticism, provided no harm is being done.
I think what riles people is how lacking in humility Michael Jay Whites comments were (self praise is no praise). I believe Michael Jay White would on probability win. But who is the better martial artist is another thing, who would have the greater skill and understanding of the martial arts in their respective eras? Who was/is the most pioneering in their respective eras? Who had/has the deeper understanding of the arts and their philosophical meaning? We must also factor in as Ramsey points out that Bruce has the handicap of Micheal having 50 odd years of knowledge advantage. To use a chess example I would argue the current world champion Magnus Carlsen would easily beat Bobby Fisher if a prime Bobby Fisher appeared right now and they had a match. However if Magnus was born and raised in Bobby Fishers era my money would be on Fisher. The game has evolved. So the average player from bottom to top will be stronger today than previous generations but that doesn't mean players today are more talented. It's building on the shoulders of giants.
I agree with your perception of MJW. I remember I got into a whole youtube debate with some fan due to mjw's claim that he's a better striker than most ufc fighters.
For this one, however, I could see Bruce Lee losing due to facing a knowledgeable opponent that's also bigger than him. Maybe if it was point competition Bruce Lee could win off speed alone, but I'd bet that White would win by knockout.
@@nybxcrotona Yes, if I was betting on a fight between them my money would be on MJW.
But who wins in a fight doesn't determine who is the better martial artist. Just like Floyd Mayweather would lose to an average pro heavyweight. But who the better pound for pound boxer is a different matter.
Martial arts is so broad, some people say that martial arts true meaning is 'The Martial Way' meaning the martial way to enlightenment. Otherwise we would just call it fighting and not martial arts. I would say that in this sense Bruce is further along the path than MJW.
Really ,then If MJW win ,I would win against u ,u wouldn't even know me,how weak I am ,how strong I am ,so shut ur disillusioned mouth up,please use your conscience.MJW wouldn't even beat Jackie Chan in his prime,u believe only what u see , believe about what u don see too,like Jesus Christ is forthcoming.....
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@@josephlalnunsanga2582 - Hopefully JC is coming to calm you down, fella.
You might wanna lay off the 'roids there . . .
I saw Bruce fight MJW, they wrecked up downtown Tokyo fighting to a stalemate. Bruce et a train and walked off into the sea, MJW moved to America, climbed the Empire State Building and it was all a big kerfuffle.
wrong fight dude 😂
You just described the plot of Godzilla vs Kong
@@jayandrews2803 no, I think you're just mixing up two stories completely unrelated with one another..
I'm pretty sure MJW has been training in his field of martial arts longer than Bruce has been alive.
Joe Rogan and Eddie bravo claim that MJW kicked a heavy bag so hard that it broke the chain off!! I wasn't there so I don't know. However! It was so memorable to them that they both started laughing about it. Those memories that prompt emotions I tend to believe are true.
I think it's quite fair to say MJW beats Bruce.
Joe Rogan could and still can kick like a mule
About Lee they say :
After he kicked the punching bag, the punching bag exploded and the scraps still heard months later in the garden of james coburn. TH-cam.
That after a kick from Bruce The garage in the punching bag was eaten and broke. in the event of a fight it came true who was led!
And in a street fight where everything is / is allowed!
I would bet on lee !!!
Especially since he sparring with Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris that he had !!! where he outclassed her!
You weren't even able to meet him !!! Was the MJW more than Joe Lewis? Nothing !!!
@@nostradamus522 And MJW spars with Jon Jones and other modern day MMA fighters. So ... whats your point?
@@nostradamus522 he never sparred Joe Lewis or Chuck
@@Guile1117
And why do eyewitnesses (Bruce Lee’s wife in her book) and Karem Abdul Jabar, many eyewitnesses who were also there, say something different! ??? 🤭 😂😂😂
I just don't understand how Bruce Lee has become the ultimate master fighter that no one can beat. MJW should have known better than saying that. I am sure there are a lot of martial artists who share the same thought, but they keep the thought to themselves to avoid the cultists coming after them.
And that is why you will never know their names.
I haven't seen all of the video yet, so you may cover these points, however, there are some points that need to be addressed:
1. I don't have an issue that he thinks he can beat up Bruce Lee. It's an opinion at the end of the day.
2. People say Bruce Lee never fought anyone need to use that same argument against MJW.
3. MJW was publicly insulted and challenged by Platinum Mike Perry and he didn't step up - he can't be all that confident in his abilities. Perry fights at 170lbs - 60lbs less than MJW
4. People say MJW trains with the World's best fighters - Bruce Lee did as well.
Size is obviously a factor, so the question becomes is MJW's size greater than Bruce Lee's skill? It could be, but that's what makes this a fun discussion. Interestingly, almost everyone is picking Floyd Mayweather to beat Logan Paul. Logan Paul weighs around 215lbs + and cuts to 190, whereas Floyd fights at his natural weight of 150lbs. Not many people have an issue with that prediction. Many people would also pick Floyd to beat 50 cent, who is well over 200 lbs. So, it's not out of the ordinary for a smaller guy to beat a bigger guy it's just that their skill level needs to be extreme. It just so happens that Bruce Lee does have an extreme skill level as evidenced by fighters like Chuck Norris.
You know you are leaving out some pretty significant points about Mike Perry challenging MJW ... like maybe include the fact that at the time Mike Perry was 28 years old in the prime of his life MMA fighter and MJW was a 52 year old man. Kind of unfair to basically call him a coward for not accepting a challenge from a man 20 years younger than him don't you think? I think I more shows the cowardice of Mike Perry for challenging a man 20 years his senior. Just saying.
@@dahamet5003 You're also missing the part that MJW said he could beat not only a Mike Perry, but also a bunch of other MMA fighters, even at his age.
He even thinks he could've beaten Randy Couture.
The point is, Mike Perry called him on his BS, and MJW went missing.
@@robiulahmed MJW actually just said if they met in person it would be interesting. After Perry called him the N word. Another point to be made is that every person who fights should believe thet can win otherwise what's the point.
@@dahamet5003 Yeah, exactly. That's literally what I wrote in my original post.