Is Christmas PAGAN? In defense of Christmas
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- Is Jesus just a rehashed pagan deity? Is December 25th is the birthday of pagan gods? Christmas trees are pagan? Where did Santa come from? Is there anything wrong with celebrating Christmas? What is the REAL threat to Christmas today?
Great work. I was atheist for 38 years and watched that Bill Maher documentary and took it as fact for years. Thank you for setting the record straight
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....
My mom was pro-Santa, my dad was not. She thought with a little counseling he would come around lol! He explained to her that we wouldn't be missing out on anything, and that we would make our own traditions.
And we did! We made our own Christmas ornaments, and moved the nativity figurines closer and closer to the manger. The baby Jesus figurine would be placed in the nativity on Christmas day, before we woke up.
One Christmas morning, my sister and I raced downstairs. We ran right past the presents to look at the nativity, and exclaimed, "Oh look! It's baby Jesus! He's here!"
We didn't miss a thing.
The better thing would have been your parents doing the right thing and telling you the truth about this satanic festival. Although I am sure they probably didn't know either. It just didn't care. Many people that keep this festival really have no clue that God hates this kind of stuff.
@@TrentonTrent how is it satanic?
@@henrycheatum8546 Cause Satan created it. Gods festivals are the ones he created.
That's a beautiful little tradition. 😊
This made me cry! (But with a big smile on my face) :) Soooo beautiful!
God bless you and your family and a very Merry Christmas to you, from England.
I know this video is from 5 years ago. But can I say I just love your brain. I was pagan for 30 years and recently saved by Jesus last January. I said some of these pagan things you brought up with absolutely no research behind it. Thank you and you, Sir, are one of my inspirations to pursue Apologetics.
Wow!!! Praise God!!
I too used to spout off this rubbish with absolutely NO research and only saying what I heard others say or read in shared posts on FB. HOW ignorant I was!
All the best to you. Merry Christmas from the UK!
Welcome to the family
It seems many of us had a season (some of us longer than others) of pagan practice or just athesim. I've been seeing a common thread of theological ignorance, that was certainly my problem. Glory to God for the blessing of this ministry.
Praise God!!
@@loobylouboti Please you just went back to the fetal position. DON'T enable Mike he needs to get out the pit he fell into. Mike dosen't really research. Mike does affirmation of his bias when he is dare I say it Millennials (WRONG) If you cannot admit historically spiritually biblically and socially how wrong Christmas is you either have no ability to understand or don't want to offend your piers,haven't looked or love the lie more than the painfully obvious truths.
Wow. I’ve been somewhat of anti Christmas for a few years now after coming across an article connecting the day to atonement of sins from saturnalia. I was so disgusted after that soI haven’t said the words “merry Christmas” since. I wanted to celebrate the birth of Christ with my brothers and sisters, but my conscience did not allow me to, freely.
Thank you for educating me and helping me find freedom through knowledge of scriptures and history. Woe to those wretched documents that have led so many into confusion. The Lord bless you and your ministries to reach more brothers and sisters.
Birthdays really shouldn't be celebrated how they are today, it is a tieck by the enemy to get us to worship ourselves.
@@ahkwyatt8174 lmao. Don't eat food or drink anything then, it's a form of self worship and a was of self preservation.
We have the Feast of Tabernacles to commemorate His birth. 🙏🏻
Christmas is the hardest thing to let go of...
@@cris_2536 So true! He will tabernacle with His people. 🤗
I used to celebrate Christmas without a problem then I encountered religious zealots and threw away all my Christmas stuff LOL, then as I started to understand more about Jesus and the only thing that really mattered to him is that we did not deny him in our hearts. He's not a beat you over the head God but a joyful one, I forgiven one and loving one and I am more than sure that he would not mind that I celebrate Christmas on his behalf. I am a Jewish believer I honor the dedication of Hanukkah to Jesus. Thank you for sharing these myths that people make up. God bless and Merry Merry Christmas, shalom
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to you! 💝
I had a similar experience where I was weary about it. thankfully I just passed on actively participating in decorating and stuff and just had a boring one those couple years, but I never felt fully convicted one way or the other. So I kept the stuff still and just got rid of the Santa stuff. With the exception of depictions of Santa kneeling to baby Jesus, I've several of those. I get a lot of Joy seeing the world's idol bow down to a representation of our Lord.
We have a Just God... and He should be feared. Not feared in a way where you are frightened... but feared in a way to where you weep when you let Him down. We will receive the judgment that we deserve... and that means we are going to be held responsible for our own sins. Christ's crucifixion paid for the sins of Adam, and gave us ways to cleans ourselves without animal sacrifice... but we still must be baptized, confess, repent, forgive, take communion often to keep ourselves ready with oil in our lamps.
My friend, Christ paid for the sins of ALL. You cannot cleanse yourself. Baptism, communion, etc does NOT save you. Only the finished work of Christ on the cross.
@@actmrhata5079 Why does Christ Death save us? Do you even know? What does the death and resurrection do to save us? One thing is for sure, it did not cleanse us of our own sins... the sins of Adam, yes, but not your sins. You will have to answer for your own sins. So tell me, what does the Death and Resurrection do to save humanity?
I have to disagree JESUS never said to celebrate his birth, remembering him by communion
To this in remembers of me, we should celebrate everyday and honor him everyday
Jesus did not specifically say that we ought to celebrate His birth, yet in the Bible His birth is celebrated, not just by people but by the armies of heaven.
Hè wasent even born at Christmas time
@@nikokapanen82 Celebrate Jesus' birth everyday. That's how we know for a fact that Christ is forever in our lives and we worship, love and celebrate Him everyday for his birth to save us sinners. We acknowledge him as our Saviour and Lord who died for our sins, remembering it everyday.
Celebrate Jesus' birth everyday. That's how we know for a fact that Christ is forever in our lives and we worship, love and celebrate Him everyday for his birth to save us sinners. We acknowledge him as our Saviour and Lord who died for our sins, remembering it everyday.
@@wendykrikke8586 Celebrate Jesus' birth everyday. That's how we know for a fact that Christ is forever in our lives and we worship, love and celebrate Him everyday for his birth to save us sinners. We acknowledge him as our Saviour and Lord who died for our sins, remembering it everyday.
What comes to mind listening to this? “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.”
We Christians always argue for what is not necessary ....
During celebration ,we guys fight, during sharing gospel, we guys hide.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Sadly speaking against worshipping demonic Idols knowingly or not is a hill to die on. The word holy means set apart. You can't have demons and god dinning together as scripture says. Unclean and clean are not a match.
Bingo!
@@abcall-timesboxingchanneln7076 also Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
That's true. We do fight. And I don't preach after done fighting.
"One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind."
Romans 14:5 NIV
The context of that is fasting...
@@theplatinumcaraudio exactly people should spend more time studying for consistency in the bible and not just what they heard from another and maybe just look at a verse or two on a subject. Bible tells us how to read study and preach the word of God from the Bible. Isaiah 28:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
It's really not, the passage is about not passing judgment on fellow believers over stupid opinions.
But if you still want to believe that this passage is about "fasting" for some reason then here's another one:
"Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath."
Colossians 2:16 ESV
@@theobjectivetruth7569 was Jesus born December 25? Show me facts. There is none and never will be so when anyone's says it's his birthday it is a lie. God hates liars. Another thing do we just say hey Jesus you didn't tell us when you were born but we chose a day for you hope you like it because we are God's and we choose what we want hope you like it. Smh get real and stick to the word of God. It's so simple. Proof Jesus wasn't born during the winter. The shepherded's and their flocks were out sleeping in the fields that night. They wouldn't be out in the winter. Luke 2:8
We can't take something that's evil, try to make it good, and then use it to worship GOD.
I hope you don’t celebrate birthdays. That’s worldly and evil.
Well said; so true.
@@jessica8704 so are baptisms.
Can we preach the gospel of Jesus Christ on a day that is believed to be pagan? And anyway, why should pagans own a day? We don’t have to surrender any day because pagans used to do something in it.
@@SusanMorales true. I wonder if we should not eat mangos and pears or plant mango, pear tree in our house since it was onced worshipped in the past by pagans.
The true God must be worshipped in truth.
Correct, from the heart.
Smashley Scott
And by keeping his commandments.
John 14: 15-21
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
@@NANA-fh6we .... and where do we find Jesus's commands to us?? In the Mosaic Law, or the Law of Grace??
@@NANA-fh6we Very good!
@@NANA-fh6we ... and the Apochrypha isn't Canon. It doesn't belong in Scripture.
I love this, as a debunking of lots of junk that are only deception. Just gotta say, tho, as a former celtic wiccan, I will not (cannot in clear conscious) have a tree, wreath, holly, mistletoe in my home. Because those things are absolutely items of idolatrous worship from the tradition I used to espouse. I love Christmas hymns tho.
But the Christian Germans started the Christmas tree.
Excellent application of Paul saying many things aren't wrong in themselves but that we should avoid where we are weak.
@@BibleLovingLutheran So..let's follow the Germans, it's not like they ever made mistakes in their decisions.
@@TrentonTrent neither has Rome with all the little altar boys. 🙄
@@BibleLovingLutheran I know right.. I feel that if you begin by turning away from God then your lusts will consume you. These people have big middle finger to God by rejecting His creation, His sabbath day. The only day that was made holy, they desire to trample on. So, yes they are sick just like all the Sunday cross worshippers, easter and xmas keepers. They are all evil deep down inside. They can barely fight off their evil due to them turning to other gods. Ahh well.. What ya gonna do? Lol
Scripture tells us to not worship God in ways that other people worship their gods. Christmas has many elements from pagan origins, so I would say it's not ok.
Can't get no clearer than that and he they still want to celebrate it I don't know what they are going to do when Christ comes back
@David Miles none of its in the bible accept for Jeremiah 10
Do you still worship in a tent by chanting psalms in Hebrew?
@@josephbrandenburg4373 who me
@@jeremyjeconner5422 No, the OP.
Although I do disagree with you.
If Christmas isn't in the Bible, I wouldn't celebrate it.
Do you celebrate mother's Day? Valentines Day?
@@augiemusky I celebrate mother's day. On Valentine's day I just eat candy.
@@augiemusky those are all pagan holidays as well. sorry.
@@joshualowe959 : So, you don't celebrate your birthday, or anyone else's, then !
And I bet you don't celebrate national holidays, but do you still take the day off work, and expect to be paid for it ?
None of theses days are in the Bible !
@@alhilford2345
One, I don't have a job
Two, I do celebrate the 4th of July National Holiday.
Three I do celebrate my birthday.
Lifelong Christian. I honestly didn’t know any Christian struggled with celebrating Christmas. Very interesting. Great video
Yup. My family. And i was seeing a girl once and she was really about the lights, tree and even santa. She knew he wasnt real but we discussed children and we differed vastly. She didnt like that
Even non-Christians "struggle" with celebrating Christmas - at least financially!!! 🤯🤑🤑🤑
Amazingly, I am really surprised how many Christians DO seem to have a problem with it. I didn’t realize that until reading through some of the comments on his Christmas videos. It’s Really surprising and somewhat disappointing. Especially when they try to tell other Christians that they’re wrong to be celebrating it. I mean, if they don’t want to, fine. But don’t tell others that they shouldn’t be!
@@davegink9222 Do what you like. I am going off this platform from today. I've had X-Mass pushed down my throat for decades. It is not compulsory, but the pressure and disdain from professing Christians about this man-made observance is way off the scale.
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 no one should be pressuring anyone to celebrate Christmas. Likewise, Christians should be leaving those who do alone to celebrate it as they wish. It gets really tiring being constantly told you shouldn’t be. And hearing the same old,debunked arguments as to why.
Mike, you have some guts standing up to the hatred around Christmas. I don’t know who attacks it more - atheists or non-celebrating Christians.
Thanks for sharing your reasons.
May I ask why is it wrong for Christians to speak on what they think is wrong?
I don't celebrate because one wonderful Christmas many years ago, God came to me and told me to throw away everything concerning Christmas and not to celebrate. That was over ten years ago. No one was in my ear or talking to me about these things. God himself came to me.
I have found over these ten years that I am the one rejected by those who celebrate Christmas. I usually don't tell people I don't celebrate. I already know they won't understand and it will cause a divide. Why is that? Why is it that because I don't celebrate I am treated differently. But if I get into the "Christmas spirit" then I am accepted?
If Christmas was a good thing then WHY do so many Christians have such a deep deep conviction about it? So something must be "off" about the holiday.
If God is telling so many Christians NO then why should we be ashamed to say it is wrong?
@@trudiamond30 Christians SHOULD stand up against what they think is wrong. But they shouldn’t propagate lies to support their conviction.
If you don’t want to celebrate Christmas, that’s fine. I’m totally fine with that. You are convicted to not do Christmas, so that’s what you should follow.
My problem lies with proclaimed Christians that attack others that celebrate Christmas with such poison and vitriol. I also have beef with people that spread misinformation and lies and pass them off as truth. That’s specifically what Mike is combatting in this video.
People that honor Christmas are called heathens not christians. Just FYI
@@TrentonTrent why?
@@TrentonTrent Care to explain where God says that in the Bible? Christmas literally means Christ mass, or celebrating Christ's birth. Not celebrating Jesus's birth is actually more in line with JW thinking that it is mainline Christianity. As long as you make Christ the centre of your Christmas there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Just like Jesus should be the centre of every single day.
The Santa lie has never been introduced to our son and I am so glad we decided to leave that out of our Christmas tradition.
Santa isn't a lie, he really existed, it was saint Nicholas of Myra
How do you convince your child presents aren't a part of Christmas? Just curious not trying to argue. Santa brings us gifts under the tree not Jesus so just wondering.
* sad Saint Nicholas noises *
@@kristenpaterson4261 There is no mention of presents in the original comment. There can be other reasons for getting gifts on Christmas. In central Europe, the tradition is that child Jesus gives gifts (like what was said that Martin Luther proposed in this video), with that it's a reminder of his ultimate gift to us, the salvation, as a possible symbolism. There can be no deep reason for getting gifts on Christmas at all; that people want to make other people happy would suffice.
Same here. My wife and I work too hard to give that phony any credit 😂
When my kids were little, we use to bake a cake and put candles on it then sing happy birthday to Jesus. I wanted them to learn from an early age, what the holiday was really about. I told them that the gifts were from Jesus because he loved them. We celebrated Christmas every year. Then 10 yrs. ago, I saw a Christian documentary that told of how the bible says we aren't to have any kind of celebration on the days of the pagan's holidays. That Jer. 49 was about Christmas trees and we shouldn't have them. I argued I don't worship my Christmas tree so that doesn't pertain to me. But, since I'm not a gambler, I'd rather be safe than sorry, I quit celebrating the most favorite time of the year for me. I am so glad to see your video. I'm too old now to celebrate much, but I still sing happy birthday to my first love...Jesus.
Thank you for sharing, its interesting reading everyone’s different experiences with Christmas.
Do you mean Jeremiah 10?
Mike tackles that misinterpretation in another video.
Jeremiah 10 is about cutting down a tree to carve an idol from it 😁
@@judylloyd7901 Yes, that's the verse, I had the wrong verse typed! Sorry about that and I have studied since then and have decided that I was right all along about the cutting down of trees was to make idols. I have been beat up badly by commenters on FB who didn't agree with that understanding. Why do Christians have to beat up each other instead of just making a nice statement the way you did. You were very polite, thank you for the verse correction too.
We had the Happy Birthday tradition for my boys when they were little, too! It's such a fun thing to do because kids love birthdays. We would also buy baby clothes for Jesus's birthday and deliver them to the Pregnancy Resource Center for the needy babies.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....
I always put the star
On the tree to represent Jesus coming and the gifts to represent the gifts given to Christ at birth. The celebration of Jesus is not pagon when we have him in our hearts. Anyone can judge all they want but I know I worship Jesus Christ and I love him.
Your still celebrating it on a pagan God's birth so step back and think for a minute you think Christ loves you for it I will not take that chance please dont take it either please stop
The trumpet symbolizes His coming...we are to look forward to the future. And as far as the star of bethlehem...that was hard for me to give up...but it was a cluster of stars mot just one.
@@jeremyjeconner5422 so your salvation is based on what you do or don't do?
@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 stars are not signs because they don't change. The wondering stars are the planets giving signs as the travel through GOD's Mazzaroth. JESUS was born on Pentecost June 15th 2bc. That night the planet Jupiter conjoined with Venus closer then ever in the past and closer then any conjunction after. Other than the moon or super nova it would have been the brightest heavenly point in the sky.
@@rickhuntling7338 well yeah that is what the bible means when it says faith without works is dead hello
I love this man’s attitude! What a Holy Spirit filled humble servant he appears to be! Thank you, brother Mike Winger, for such a rational, Truth-based presentation! 🙏🏽❤️✝️ Hallelujah to the LORD Jesus Christ our Savior!
Rationality is not Holy Spirit...PAGAN RECYCLING? REALLY???Love recycling? Check those projects: take old pornographic magazines and make cardboard dressing dolls with them, or even better, take drug addicts syringes filled with old car antifreeze and make a beautiful cactus out of it. Great for kindergarten, aren't they? DEFINITELY, all recycling is NOT GOOD. Yahweh told the Hebrews, when they arrived in Canaan, to UTTERLY DESTROY every pagan sites and NOT RECYCLE anything from those sites. Yahweh DO NOT CHANGE. Christmas was created at the Council of Nicea where Constantine PUT EVERY PAGAN RELIGIONS UNDER ONE UMBRELLA and included Christianity in it ! Constantine WAS A SUN WORSHIPPER and became a christian ONLY on his death bed. Christmas and Easter ARE of pagan origin and should be AVOID.
Rationalize all you want, Jer 10:1-5 is crystal clear. Do not do as the nations do.
They will seek any means to continue with their traditions even if they are found to be pagan in origin. You are right to quote Jeremiah... we are instructed not to follow the ways of the nations.
@@gracielong3566 You really need to understand biblical context (who, what, where, when, and why), and the difference between old covenant and new covenant. We have freedom in Christ to either commemorate His birth, or not to, use of trees or lights or decorations. If these things bother you, then by all means don't participate in this way- God will honor that. But if others choose to commemorate Jesus birth while using decorated trees and lights, as much as that may offend you, God will honor that as well. Romans 14:5-6
@@clayjo791 You disagree with me about the origins of the holiday...but do not attack my knowledge of the scriptures just because you are offended by the truth!
It is painfully obvious that you do not understand that our God is an all consuming fire---!
Isaiah 42:8
Hebrews 12:29
Exodus 34:14
Jeremiah 10:3-4
You, sir, are the willfully ignorant one. You think you are honoring God by following pagan traditions...smh
@@clayjo791 You have freedom in Christ but that freedom does not mean that believers are to engage in traditions and practices that are not condoned by God and not supported by scriptures. Jesus was born in September... not December 25th. Christmas has nothing to do with him at all...
@@gracielong3566 Isaiah 42:8 doesn't apply to us because we are not worshipping or bowing down to an idol;
Hebrews 12:29- I agree that our God is a consuming fire, but how does that relate to decorating a tree (for ornamental reasons, not for worship) in celebrating Christ's birth?
Exodus 34:14- We are worshipping Jesus, the jealous God being referred to (Jesus is Yahweh), who became a man for our redemption.
Jeremiah 10:34- This is why context is so important: this passage is not referring to Christmas trees, because at this time there was no such thing as Christmas! Christ wouldn't be born for another 700 years! This refers to God commanding the children of Israel not to adapt the practice of carving idols (gods of wood with silver and gold) to worship, like the heathen do. Read down to verse 11. The December 25th date is simply the day chosen to commemorate His incarnation; no one knows the actual date.. but we do know that He was born!
If you still see it the same way, no sweat; I fully believe that God is Holy, and that we should follow the way of holiness without compromise...but according to God's word as understood correctly.
Be blessed.
The fact this is an issue is sad. Use the Spirit to discern..... if you don't feel right doing it..... DON'T....... But if you do calibrate it..... celiebrate Christ Jesus. Stop hating your brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus 😡
Agreed!
Exactly
I politely disagree. Feelings are usually not super reliable. Now if you feel convicted about it and not sure why, I think it's good to research and figure out why. Relying on the Word of God, prayer, and asking wise counsel can help. My opinion. If anyone has something that has scripture references that would be awesome. Thanks.
@@sarahpfeuffer1396 i can respect your disagreement as there is reason to withhold from tradition in general. However. I believe those who do celebrate certain holidays like Christmas shouldn't be hated on by those who don't. But thanks for your polite approach. So many just want to get all uppity.🙂
@@jakmo6130 thank you. I appreciate your respectful and kind reply.
If Christmas was Christian, then the world would hate it. The world loves it's own. Narrow is the gate. Think on this. What are you trying so hard to defend?
Jazmine Majin this!!! Wow, Ive never seen it like that. Its so true! If Christmas had anything to do with christianity, the world would hate it and mock it just like it hates everything regarding Christ and his word. Its quite the opposite actually so that should give us a hint.
Christmas is hated everywhere outside of Christianity. Just ask the christians in islamic nations, Buddhist nations, North Korea, China....
The world does hate Christmas, its why they've tried to change it so much into secularization and say Happy Holidays instead. Every year it gets harder and harder to have Nativity scenes and every year atheists and satanists alike try to claim the public domain on displays.
"The world loves apple pie. I love apple pie. Therefore I must not be saved and God condemns me eating apple pie."
See how stupid that sounds?
@@TheJoeschmoe777 exactly lol.
"they are critical ,except of the criticisms, they think skeptically, except of their skepticisms" Well said Pastor!
The actual event of Jesus coming into the world is absolutely scriptural. The rest of 🎄🎅🎁 are all additions.
'In vain do they worship Me keeping as commands the traditions of men...'
'Don't add or take away...'
Give me Jesus without the frills. That's good enough for me!
Do you want to make love with your Boyfriend with no frills : he doesn't bother to dress up and wine & fine dine you at the the Most Romantic Italian Restaurant in your town....or show up with a bouquet of flowers...or open the car door for you...or prepare a Candlelit bedroom and Roaring Fireplace and Bed covered with strewn Rose Petals ??? Lina DON'T want any frills though....just do it.
Love is Never a Sin We shouldn’t be participating in a sacrament meant for a husband and wife.
How is Christmas in vain?
@@OurHumbleLife I think she was talking about all the other things and distractions being vain. Because she supports Christmas at the start of what she said.
I know people love to go to Jeremiah 10, and they take a couple verses out of context to try to support their war against Christmas. Jer 10 is all about the ways of the heathen, which are that they carve and craft idols from trees, from the wood they don't burn, and they worship them as God. They worship idols that cannot walk, talk, see, hear, smell, think. Things that are nothing. And they spend much money, cover them in silver and gold. Doing such is vain God says.
And this may help you or someone else.
God did not specifically say, Christmas and Easter is pagan, they are abhorrent in my sight.
God does specifically say through the old testament what the ways of the nations, the heathen, or pagans, were. He says what is evil, and abominable to Him, and how they should not worship Him. When they were worshipping God, but by the name of baal, they would sacrifice their babies, in the most excruciating and horrific ways, that tortured them. They worshipped baal, as the one God. So God has said, don't worship me as they do.
The ways of the heathen: sacrificing animals, sacrificing their own children, dances and rituals, the putting off of clothes, orgies, religious prostitution, chanting, vain repetition, cutting themselves, crafting idols in the form of man, beast, of earth or heaven and worshipping it. I'm sure there are more things.
@@loveisneverasin9092 you completely assume she isn't married, or that she has a boyfriend and would do that. You make a very crude assumption. And you presume to know her heart.
“beware that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?’ You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; ...”
Deuteronomy 12:30-31
Is having a tree religious worshiping of the tree or some God?
Rose - there is one day that folks bring an evergreen tree into their homes, or put up a fake one. They do this for one purpose and that is to celebrate a pagan rite that has nothing to do with Jesus’ birth. This is the bottom line: God does not want anything that is pagan included in our worship to Him. The Father and the Son are one.
Read Exodus 32:1-9. Aaron gave into those whom he was tasked watch over and instead he capitulated to their lusts and built them another god in the form of a golden calf. This was an abomination to God.
But it gets worse. Aaron then used the golden calf to worship the one true God and these two acts kindled Gods’ anger towards his people. God told Mose to go down and deal with his people and one day the Father will tell His Son to go down and deal with his people.
Do not be found doing what is unclean to God
@@mborjon1009 The point is the people were worshipping false gods, they also sacrificed their children and performed sexual deviant acts under green trees and temples. The people were pagan because they were doing abominable things.. A tree is not abominable nor is bringing it inside. Bowing and worshipping that tree as a god would be wicked! I think Christmas Trees are unnecessary but I understand people use them as decorations and symbols for the season. The menorah is also a symbol for the season. Is the menorah evil? Do people pray to it as a god? Did pagans ever burn candles for worship? Certainly, does that make burning candles evil and pagan so you cannot do it? Maybe if you've allowed religion to take over your mind and bind your faith. If you're thinking like that you have no liberty.
Tony T - I’m curious as to why you can not correlate what God’s word says versus what drives people to do what they do on the only day in the year that happens to be the same day that Sol Invictus falls on as well as how all of the additional trappings of this pagan ritual seemed to have just coincidently become a part of. Coincidence? No.You’ll have to live with your choices, I pray you’ll come to your spiritual senses because it seems your flesh and inability to correctly divide the truth is winning this one. I have been set free from the bondage of sin, no longer desiring to do what is outside the will of my Father. You have not, sin is your slave master. But let us not be proud of our words or intellect, let’s read from the book of Romans:
“What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.”
Romans 6:15-18
You are a slave to sin and mask it with the abusing of grace. There is no obedience in you because your words say as much. Reconsider your walk because one day you will hear Jesus say the following:
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in the heavens. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7:21-23
You do want Jesus to know you, this is what the Father wants. Let us be humble and work to do what is pleasing in God’s eye. He loves us, let’s not abuse His grace. By the way the thing you call "religion" is the word of God. Man created religion, you do know this, yes? Find peace and salvation in His words and not in the traditions of men.
Read what Paul says to us in 1st. Cor. 10:1-22. Do not do as Israel did unto God, learn from their sin. This is wisdom for today.
Love in the truth.
@@Rose-wx2ct well thats up to you, if it is=bad, if its not=normal
Well done Sir! This helps clear up so many things I have heard. My Grandparent and Parents have made me LOVE this holiday, which I have spread to my children. When I gave my life over to Christ, I heard so many bad things about why we shouldn't celebrate it. Your presentation was EXCELLENT !!, it hit on all the misconceptions of Christmas. I recently started going to TH-cam for some Sunday School ideas for my young adult class. You and Alan Parr are my favorite ones to listen to. You both do a phenomenal job. God Bless your service to the LORD!
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....
I listen to this every Christmas and it always helps me navigate the season. I have some Christian friends that have believed all the myths about it being Pagan and I’m hoping I can speak some truth to them this year.
✝️ Jesus is the reason for the Season.
Didn't watch the full video yet, but here's also something for them to consider:
While it's actually about Easter, do you know that infamous "Ishtar=Easter" meme? I bet they know it too. Aside from the fact that virtually every line in that meme is factually wrong, when one looks closely at these myths, you can see stuff like Ishtar planting "trees of knowledge", favoring a shepherd over a farmer, her tears causing a flood because she was remorseful about the violence on Earth, etc. Does this all sound familiar? Atheists try to use the similarities between Ishtar and Genesis to argue that the Bible borrowed from pagan myths (when it's the opposite) and so attack legitimacy of the Scripture. So when Christians repeat the "Christmas/Easter = Pagan" lie, they enable these attacks. That's what the intent of drawing these similarities was meant to do all along! You'd think your friends would know this seeing they care about origins so much.
@@mobiusraptor7 exactly. The isrealites were still praying to God while at the same time.behinning to say prayers to the baals. We can't celebrate the fulfillment of Passover while going through all the celebrations of the fertility goddess. Ishtar was also the embodiment of sexual immorality and an important figure of the beginning of the that immoral movement in America in 1969 at the Stonewall Inn in NY. Santa Clause is a satanic lie that takes away from the glorious truth of the arrival of our Savior. Santa ause the Norwegian stag God is immortal and omniscient. He is clearly celebrated as a deity. How can it not be a sin to practice deception with our youngest children and perpetuate this lie. Remember the jews were worshipping God alongside the baals and ishtar (ashtoreth)
God tells us to worship in truth. Tammuz was born on December 25th not Jesus
Yahusha has no relation to this season sorry
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
So glad to see in the comments that people have their own discernment. It is clear that there are true Shepard's in the comments.
It is an abomination to exchange Holy Days for Holidays.
Let us all worship in truth every breath we take.
I was thinking the same thing; I've been bogged down with my so called believing family celebrating this heathen season and it's nice to see a false preacher getting comment bombed for once on their evil and man made traditions.
@@shadow_ow2 What evil? Celebrating the birth of Christ is evil?
@@Ernaldinho1993 you celebrate the birth of a false Messiah that's been handed down through pagan traditions. Yes, it is evil.
@@shadow_ow2 Is Jesus a false messiah?
@@shadow_ow2 who cares what a gay (most likely) says about Jesus? Or perhaps a Muslim under that name, for sure a sjw 😂😂
I get what you're saying about Santa, but I do have one major problem: Santa isn't real, and yet so many parents convince their children that he is, only for those children to later find out that he isn't. In extreme cases, this can cause children to distrust their parents. Even in the best of cases, it calls into question whether or not Jesus is real, because Santa is like Jesus in a lot of ways. He always sees you, he knows if you're being bad or good, he rewards you if you are good and punishes you if you're not, you never see him, and you have to believe in him in order to receive his gifts. If Santa isn't real, could Jesus just be another version of this character, equally as made-up? I wouldn't blame a kid for following that logic train. Not to mention the fact that it's just an outright lie, no matter how fun it is while it lasts. Personally, I'm glad my parents never told me Santa was real.
I’ve actually seen this thing floating around Facebook. The TLDR was this son discovered Santa wasn’t real and was asking his dad about it and threatening to tell the truth to his younger siblings. The dad said “you wanna hear the real secret? It’ll never let you look at Santa the same way again...” so the kid was all eager to listen and the dad told him about how year after year he would give his children presents under the guise of “Santa” and never expected any thank you in return. So the truth about Santa is that it’s really the spirit of giving just to give. Anonymously, freely, generously, lovingly giving. Blessing someone without any strings attached and without expectations. So then the son was now “in on it” and had the responsibility to keep being the secret Santa. Keep blessing and loving on his siblings to continue the joy of the season.
I don’t know if I’ll ever tell my kids that Santa is real-we always knew he wasn’t but still got gifts from “Santa”. But I love the sentiment of the spirit of giving, and Santa being an idea moreso
Santa is a false diety. His only job is to distract from the truth of Christ
I totally get that sentiment, although you can't necessarily compare Santa to Christ. Part of the particularities of this argument lies in what is deemed as "similar"- like the characters in the many claims provided by Zeitgeist but don't account into the historical accuracy of the story (the Bishop of Myra in the 4th century, fused of course with other folkloric texts- with no claim to deity necessarily or of imposing divine judgement whatsoever). Whereas the truth of Christ (his relation to the Father and Holy Spirit, His Hypostatic Union, death and resurrection, being the Suffering Servant) can be testified of and the work of the Holy Spirit is present. If you choose not to tell of Santa, that's totally okay. If you choose to do so, that's fine too. However, it can't held to the same equilibrium because then you make the same claims. Please don't take this as an attack (it truly isn't) but it is exactly the same train of thought that many push for in the arguments "against Christmas"
@@kerrickchavarria8935 True, but this is coming from a mature person. A kid is going to draw those parallels because they're a kid, at least in my experience with children and just remembering being a child.
That was my experience. I wondered if they had lied about that, and the pagan easter rabbit, what else was a lie?
What about the verse in Jeremiah about Yahuah's displeasure with Israelites ,going out in the forest cutting a tree and bringing it inside affixing it to the floor and decorating it with gold and silver.( Jer. 10:4I) Its basically called out as an idol!
I've been on the side of everything christmas is pagan but ... nobody is worshiping a tree in christianity. We have made christmas a tradition. It's too commercialized yes , but telling the story of Jesus birth and having a meal and gift giving with family in a cozy decorated home isnt worship. I just dont know anymore lol...
Obviously the whole Santa thing is ludicrous so we do not partake in that either ! You can make it your own because it's a tradition? Not a religious ruling or something
@Caitlin Goodson so where did the tree tradition start? Do you know ?
@@family-peace-love I think Santa can certainly be used to demonstrate Christly qualities. Do I think Santa should be the end all be all evangelism tool? No, but plenty of my brothers in red use their job as Santa to teach children about the meaning behind Christmas beyond materialism.
Colette, the Apostle Paul would have put up a Christmas tree and hosted Christmas dinner for the gentiles in his neighborhood. Ham would have been on the menu. He would have LOVED this opportunity to share Christ with them. So pray the Lord brings a non Christian into your life, whk has no where to go for Christmas, and break Christmas cookies with them over a good conversation about Jesus being the reason for the season.
26:44 I have to disagree. Who did the Israelites build the golden calf in the name of? God has told us how He wants to be worshipped. We don’t draw the line, He does. It’s an abomination to Him that we would celebrate him with Pagan Roman Catholic traditions in the same way the golden calf was an Egyptian way to praise their gods. We should be trying to run away from that stuff as fast as we can! Revelation 18:4
Mike I love your videos so I feel like I must point this out, as a brother and a fellow saint. You do so much good work. I thank God for your ministry and your TH-cam channel.
Mike just used logic and evidence to show that there is no concrete evidence that Christmas and it's traditions are pagan. Before you criticize maybe site your sources and references that it's pagan and demonic.
God literally gave the israelites holidays to celebrate.
Christmas is a tradition of man.
Matthew 15:8-9
@@phogetta1 so what scripture say I can't celebrate a holiday unto the Lord. Hanukkah isn't one the celebrations God commanded and yet Jesus celebrated at someone's house in scripture was Jesus sinning when he celebrated the man made holiday of hanukkah no he wasn't, stop with the self righteous religiousness.
@@dominicvaliente5002 Hanukkah was ordained buy Judas a prophet. u can read that in 1st Maccabees 4. The prophets had authority by God in Hosea.
What prophet ordained Christmas?
God gave instructions on how he wants you to worship him but for some reason we do the complete opposite.
Did anyone commenting here actually watch his video where he dispels the myths they're mentioning??
bobby smith he dispelled myths but never addresses why 25th why the tree and ornaments and where did it start
He is grasping at straws in my opinion....
a life less toxic we have done this is some way so I get it and hopefully he gets it someday
a life less toxic his whole teaching has been misrepresented and we know and expose the unfruitful deeds of darkness
Nick Strickland what do you mean by unfruitful deeds of darkness
"Happy Holidays" ... "Holiday" from Holy+day.... Holy meaning "set apart" or "associated with divine power". So that opens up why is the day set apart and why does that bring happiness? The set apart day around this time of year that brings me happiness because it reminds me that God became flesh in order to save me from my sins.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
I've been thinking about this a lot and slept on this over and over. This helped save Christmas for me! Thank you.
Even if we do find evidence that Christmas trees were originally used in pagan traditions, I feel that shouldn't prohibit us from enjoying them in a non-pagan way. Whatever the enemy uses to distract people towards him, he has stolen from God's creation anyway.
I think we should take things back and honour God with them 🤷♀️
Exactly... s@tan counterfeits/copies things of God or God's creation.
Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Yes Christmas is pagan and I'm glad to know the truth. I will definitely sacrifice giving up this holiday to be closer to my Father in heaven who never lied to me
Theres 0 evidence to that. You believe secularists who lied about Christian holidays to put down christianity.
Daniel . As a christian that has been saved over 70 years and Celebrated the birth of our lord and savior , it makes little difference it was pagan a holiday it is the day Christians remember and give thanks to God for his Son that come it to the world to give his life so we can have life . If you don`t want to remember the birth of Jesus that is your business . You can`t get any closer to God by not remembering his birth and celebrating it than any one else that is saved and indwelled with his spirit . I am a son of God and nothing can separate me from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus . Merry Christmas and thank God for his gift of life though his son
@@donaldcooley897 never did I say I didn't want to celebrate his birthday. I just choose to respect it and not lie about it. I think the focus does need to be on what he done for us and not tie his name to whatever "man" wants to do with it. Seek truth not man
@@donaldcooley897 and another thing serving the Lord is spreading the gospel much more than any man made traditions and yes Christmas is a tradition it's not and everyday thing and I'd like if someone celebrated my birthday on its actual date not for someone to decide for me when to celebrate it. Everything about Christmas is a lie and I know what the bible says about liars as well. Humbly saying. You choose yours and I choose the bibles way God bless
Daniel , That what saved Christians like my self do we focus on what Christ come in to this world to do . and how do you get that we lie about it . He was born , that is important celebrating the day what ever day it was is the day we thank God for his gift . there is nothing wrong with that it is not a sin . and it won`t stop us from being called home when we die or when he calls us to meet him in the air
When you put so much effort in decorating shopping and do it in God's name and not do things he asked for like preaching the gospel then it's pagan and idol worship.
Amen...
So, basically ANY day where YOU shop, decorate, and fail to preach the word is "idolatry"??? We are also commanded to feed the starving and care for widows and orphens... are there days that you fail to do this??
Jesus corrected Martha for the very attitude that you are imposing on others. Jesus is worthy of our expensive oils... He is worthy of the decoration and pageantry. It is IRRELEVENT that our secular culture doesn't celebrate Christmas to celebrate CHRIST, and it's IRRELEVENT that long dead pagans used some of the current pageantry that is seen or used Dec. 25th to celebrate whatever... I don't celebrate what they celebrate, and a Nativity Scene that others use doesn't celebrate what long dead pagans did EITHER. The Apostle Paul very specifically speaks about your legalistic attitude, and CONDEMNS it. Jesus REDEEMS. He redeemed the cross, baptism, and our souls.... so, looks like redeeming a day, or symbols ain't but a thing. Don't celebrate the birth of your Savior... that's fine... but if the first celebration of the birth of our King is good enough to be recorded in THREE of the Gospels, it's good enough for this gratefully redeemed sinner.
What he is perhaps saying is if you put a religious or spiritual stamp on a holy day, then keep it spiritual and meaningful, rather than allow secularism and people who like to stir up strife to take the religious holiday and own it with worldliness and bickering. Many people just want to fight, both saved and unsaved. The tongue is commonly used to be evil, and is a hard to control member...it takes discipline that only comes from The Father. But many have rebellious natures, and not for Christ-centered initiatives. Christ came to set the captives free and draw us to His Good Father. It is just as wrong to shun "Jewish" (aka Biblical) holy days (weekly sabbath and high sabbaths) and place the modern Catholic/Protestant holy days (Christmas) over them, as it is wrong to be harsh and so ready to emotionally stone or otherwise attack those Christians who have been persuaded to forget the Bible holy days and only embrace what we normally only see (Easter and Christmas). There have been some possible tainting of any and all of the holy days, whether Christian or Hebrew. Find those little pagan pieces and be aware but if they aren't harming anything and the day is still being kept for it's holy meaning and remembrance, than press on. Don't be a hater. The Lord didn't make us brothers and sisters to fight and be pissy.
@@smashleyscott8272 So you think it is legalistic to not worship God the way the heathen worships their gods. would not like to be you explaining to Jesus on that day how you know better than him.
@@1badplayer .... no, I think it's legalistic to tell others how they should or shouldn't worship God. Heathens don't worship God. You know who else DOESN'T worship God?? Those who are like the Pharisees, whose hearts were far from Him, yet they followed the letter of the Law. We are called to worship the Lord in SPIRIT, and in TRUTH. Spend a little time in Romans 14-15, as well as other NT passages, that speak about the freedom we have in Jesus.
Another point: all days belong to God, and NO symbols are inherently evil... Romans 14:14 clearly states this. God redeemed the cross & baptism. God recorded the 1st celebration of Jesus's birth in THREE of his 4 Gospels... He lead the Magi by the star of David to our Newborn King, who presented TREMENDOUSLY expensive gifts to Christ and offered Him WORSHIP. There was nothing "pagan" about this. A mini pine tree that some may or may not decorate and out in there homes is NOT an idol to a pagan false god unless those USING that tree ACTUALLY worship said false god. If you truly believe that celebrating thr birth of Jesus is pagan, dont do it... if you believe that celebrating His birth is pagan on the 25th of December is pagan, dont do it... if you believe that celebrating Birth with a tree, tinsel, decorations, and gifts to loved ones is pagan, dont do it. That is ALL the rightful choice of YOUR conscience. But, under Biblicaland ACTUAL historical scrutiny, there are no grounds for believing these things,
"Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For it is written, “A s I live , says the Lord , every knee shall bow to M e , A nd every tongue shall give praise to G od .” So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this-not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way. I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love. Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then we pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another. Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives offense. It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles. The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin."
Romans 14:1-23 NASB
People getting childish in the comments... typical 🤦🏼♂️
I agree. I'm guessing I'm getting no Christmas gifts from this crowd.
love them anyway lol
Christmas can be a beautiful time. I'm surprised there's so many haters towards it ::shrugs::
I used to celebrate Christmas... loved it, actually. Then the Lord opened my eyes and when I learned the truth, I settled it in my mind that Christmas is an altered pagan tradition. Do what you want to do as it is your free will but we are not being childish for sharing the true origins of the holiday traditions.
God was very specific when He commanded the Israelites to celebrate their festivals, time of the year, etc. God has never said a word regarding celebrating His Son's birthday so why should we??
Jesus celebrated Hanukkah (feast of dedication) there no scripture of God commanding that
I like you brother Mike, but I don't agree with this teaching. I do like other stuff you speak about.
We are not to conform to this world's practises and Christmas (and here in Finland we call it Joulu = Yule) has too much pagan practices that I personally do not want to celebrate it the way the people of the world do.
I personally don't have Christmas trees or any decorations. I can have a meal with bretheren, but I wouldn't be giving gifths this day. Too much materialism and focus on decorations and drunkardness and cluttony on this holiday, which is the spirit of yule.. I choose not to partake in it. If you must give presents at some point, why not to give presents after the new year or something when the sales start... everything is more cheaper then! :D
I can celebrate Jesus on any day and will keep doing it (without any extra decorations) and can have a nice meal and the communion. I can truly say it is feels good to not celebrate Christmas/Yule, cause you have so much time for more important things like spending time with the family, not having to decorate (then after to clean it all up), run from store to store to buy stuff and spend awful amount of money.. and then stress to make food so much that people eat that same food for the next 2 weeks straight... Just not worth it. I don't see the focus on Jesus. Other things take the focus. That is my oppinion.
Seek and ask the truth about these things from God. God should be our main source of information, not other people's oppinions or even the internet.. God knows the truth about everything! He will reveal it to you personally, if you are willing to believe and obey what God shows you. God Bless you all!
Loving God in Finland
You just told us not to look for truth here on the Internet, but look to God alone. Then why did you just give us that long discussion on Christmas, on the Internet, if we are only to seek God?
Loving God in Finland amen loving God in Finland. I don’t care how much this gets twisted to make people feel better, it is self indulgent with little to no consideration of Jesus.
I thought it was me being judgemental, thinking christians are going backwards.Pagans?Everything you wrote I also believe, including; that I celebrate Jesus in my heart everyday.
@@loveisneverasin9092 she started off speaking on the video..then she gave great advise about her belief in Christmas. My question to u is..why would u sit there and read all of what she wrote only to be negative about a small portion u missed the whole point. Stop causing strife. If Love is Never a sin..start acing like it.
@@jonzellbyrd1026
I truly thank you for attempting to perfect my conversation...b/c as it is Written, " to him that Ordereth their conversation a right....Will I shew the Salvation of God . "
Did you notice that the Santa was White? Yes...every time I try to stick my nose into the black community with an idea for improvement...I am told to mind my own business ( as if human suffering isn't any of my business ). I am told this is a black issue...it is being given every possible ounce of attention by black leaders.
I am going to encourage you, that instead of spending Christmas Party time on my feeble existence....that you start writing comments to your own people to open their minds to change. There are no major problems over here in White America....Pleeeeeeeze get to work where help is really needed, N '.
Jeremiah 10:2-4 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Thank you. This should be all the proof anyone needs to see.
I think that the passage is taken out of some necessary context. The passage with its context is about carving idols. It's written later that they don't speak and don't walk. If the text was about Christmas trees, the part about that they don't speak and don't walk would be unnecessary because people usually don't expect that Christmas trees would speak or walk. The part makes sense if the carvings depict some humanoids or animals, which is how I imagine the idols, because humanoids and animals, especially those considered gods, are usually expected to speak or walk.
@@matj12 some Christians worship christmas trees
Thank you " My Happy Place " for the scripture Jeremiah 10:2-4. Why don't people understand on a reality level. Christmas is a mockery;12/25, of The Only Begotten Son of TMH. SHALOM💜
IDOLATRY
Mike, I love your videos but I think you are off on this one, and perhaps you will change your perspective down the road. Some of my friends kids' became atheists when they realized that Jesus' wasn't really born on December 25th and that their parents had been lying to them about Santa Claus too. At that point they have lost trust and respect for their parents and from their perspective now Jesus looks like just another made up god, and can you really blame them? Why give the enemy any leverage?
By celebrating Christmas alongside the secular world, we are turning our Lord into just yet another pagan god by throwing Him in the celebratory pot during this holiday. How do you think that God feels about us celebrating the birth of His precious Son on on the day or in the way that the pagan world celebrated/s the birthdays of fake and made up idols?! How can you say the day does not matter? If my husband chose to celebrate my birthday on the birthday of his ex, I would be deeply hurt. Do you think that it's okay to celebrate Jesus' birthday on Halloween if we wanted? Of course not. God said that His children should not look at the pagan, idolatrous customs and copy them or worship Him according to how they worship their gods. (Deut. 12:30-31) Our God is set apart and we are also called to be set apart.
The exact day not withstanding, the very concept of celebrating Jesus' "birthday" AT ALL comes from the pagan culture from when they would celebrate the birth of their gods and later one, their kings etc. Since we KNOW for a fact that Jesus was NOT born on December 25th or even close, so then why are we celebrating it at that time of year? Anyone can google the answer, namely to bring together the early Christian church inline with it's pagan culture that was already quite attached to the celebrations (more than one, depending on where you lived) of that season. This IS a matter of historical record.
Now I personally do not think that there is ANYTHING wrong with celebrating the 1st coming of the Messiah, but we do not do it as a "birthday" and it is very important that we make that distinction. The God we worship, the God of the Bible, did NOT have a beginning, He was not born or created, He is Eternal. Jesus' coming was "the Word become Flesh" and the incarnation of the Eternal - NOT the birth of our God. So we SHOULD and DO celebrate it, but within the context in which Biblical and Historical scholars mostly agree he was born, October-ish, most likely during the Jewish Feast of Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles, which celebrates what John describes as Jesus "Dwelt (Tabernacled)" among us. It's even better than Christmas because it's a week long and also it is a prophetic holiday because it looks forward to His second coming when all of the world will celebrate this holiday going forward. Zechariah 14:16. We sing "O come O come Emmanuel", tell the story of Jesus' coming, and it's a beautiful holiday. In short, we HONOR God by setting apart His holy days and our worship of Him, especially by not lumping Him together with secular and pagan celebrations.
A wonderful example of whiny babies who lose all trust in everything because the tooth fairy isn't real. Have fun in your lack of belief, kids!
@@ImCarolB, such a callous, sarcastic and condescending response. ...Way to let that "light" shine.
Excellent post. HLLWYH !! 😁
@@ImCarolB Ok Karen
Amen sister! 🙏🙏
I went threw a struggle with celebrating Christmas and not celebrating Halloween. I felt that there was a difference, but I couldn't explain why. My sister mentioned has a Christian she looked at the spirit behind Christmas and the spirit behind Halloween. The Spirit of Christmas is love, joy, peace and a giving to others. The Spirit behind Halloween is mostly death, fear, and destruction.
Several years ago I felt convicted about celebrating Halloween but I didn’t know why. I saw a quote from Anton LaVey (satanic church founder) say that he wanted to thank Christian parents for letting their kids worship the devil one day of the year. My first though was NO WAY. So I stared looking into the origins and rituals and it was all bad, dark side stuff and nothing remotely godly in it. LaVey was actually right! So, though my family doesn’t agree and threaten to take my son out trick or treating, I choose not to participate.
And I’ve noticed in stores the costumes are getting more and more gruesome.
@@sandina2cents779 It only means that, if that's what's in their hearts.
Mike Winger defends Christmas and Halloween, and mocks those who choose not to worship these false gods.
@@ajlouviere202 where has he mocked anyone for choosing not to celebrate them? In fact, he says all the time that if it bothers your conscience, not to celebrate it. He will, however, call out people who speak out of ignorance, and just repeat things they’ve heard without knowing the facts.
@@davegink9222 listen from the 0:48 mark.
Hi Mike .. i think your common sense lost in this lesson.. maybe time to rethink this one... as God speaks to us in symbles and many other ways so will the devil. its got a subliminal mening..
100 WAARHEID IN JESUS how so?
Chapter and verses to support this, please??
I have to disagree, I understand where you’re coming from but the Lord doesn’t talk to us in symbols he speaks to us in parables and foreshadowing. (Psalm 78 John 16.)
An obelisk shaped like phallus is a symbol. But Noah’s Ark is a foreshadow or a Picture of Christ. The two aren’t even comparable. Satan has absolutely no finesse!! But here’s where I’m really concerned, Christian holidays are being attacked from every direction and my question is who is doing the attacking? Critically thinking it would make sense to strip Christian identity in order for an atheist socialist New World order or a one world religion to take hold. Just a thought.
@@abidinginchrist3139 did you know that there are actually 7 feast that we are commanded by YHWH to keep. They are absolutely wonderful and beautiful. They remind us all of what YHWH did for us in the OT and how much has been fulfilled in the NT. I asked a pastor if he knew about the feast- he said yes- I said why have you never taught on them- he said they are not for us today. That is not the truth, we are commanded to keep them- they are the Lord's feast. The holidays that most people keep are pagan- no matter what this guy is saying - he needs to study a little more. The Bible teaches us that we love the traditions of men over the word of YHWH. When we come into the knowledge of the truth - that is when we have to make a decision, to stay with the traditions of men, or let them go - and then begin to keep the feast the Lord commands us to keep. The feast are so fun and rewarding because as we keep them, we teach our children the ways of the Lord and even reenact the Bible times for ourselves.
Jenina Penrod yes my sister, I do know! Pretty awesome huh? do you know who these feast foreshadow and how they proclaim God’s perfect plan of salvation?
I love that the people who are opposed to Christmas claim that it is a pagan day. They are all God’s days lol Celebrating the birth of Christ is not evil on any day.
I can't believe many teachers, that know what God says about not following what the pagans do, and also knows that the RCC is all about following paganism, could say it's ok to celebrate Christmas as Christs bday!
Jesus was born in the fall. It's not even his bday
They just want to be a part of this world. Keeping xmas makes them feel all warm on the inside. Most people have no clue really, look at how many run off to keep a Sunday sabbath...SMH They do not love God.
@@TrentonTrent why do you censor Christ in the word Christmas? Why do you use an X instead? That is something non-believing Jews do.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
"Pulled it out of their Mithra" 😆 🤣 😂 Love you truly and I'm using that analogy from now on.
It is easy to find the truth ..go back to the Bible it is the infallible Word
...so that should be our guide or the lamp unto our path
It is the CHURCH ( 1 tim 3:15) who produced the BIBLE...
@@bisayachannel7370 nope, the church did not write matthew, mark or john and Luke or the letters of Poul did it?
Andrina Carvalho, though you say that it should be “easy to find the truth” by merely consulting the Bible, those who believe that Christmas is primarily pagan appeal to God’s “infallible word” as well as extra-biblical sources. Truth is always evident to those that see it. I found Mike’s comments to be extremely helpful in refuting so much of the stuff people are swindled to believe.
Correct... THREE of the 4 Gospels recorded the very 1st celebration of the birth of our Savior. If it's good enough for the Gospels, it's good enough for me.
@@smashleyscott8272 yes, we are told he was born- but it wasn't in the winter, they didn't decorate a tree and give gifts to each other and go in debt. find out what month he was born , as close as you can and celebrate if you want to - we are just asking you to stay away from all the other pagan rituals, which if you study you will find where it all came from and who started it, and who it really benefits in the long run.
What you teach brings the fear of Yahuah into me for you. How can a holiday centered around receiving and lying to children be good! It’s all about materialism and most people who don’t believe in Christianity celebrate Christmas. Yahusha is not the reason for the season. Christians try to make Him the reason but He is not the reason. Repent and turn from your sins. Yahusha was not born in the winter by anyone’s calculations. We are to honor His birth and sinless life and death and resurrection daily by being a living sacrifice. Dying to our flesh daily! Praise Yahuah for he is Love and faithful.
HaShem* Yeshua*.
Absolutely thank you
You must not have even listened to this. He covers so much in this. And he asks the question at the end, do you celebrate a secular Christmas? Or a Christ centered Christmas. After all, do you think pagans and people who don't know or care for God, would make up a holiday, and name it after Christ? And no Christian who knows anything believes that Jesus was born on December 25.
@@davidjones6269 well look at the jesuits and the Catholic Church!!
Of course they would. The Mysteries of Babylon were scattered across the earth... paganism didn’t disappear, it was absorbed into religion and the fallen angels/Egyptian/Roman/Pagan gods and goddesses were just renamed as ‘the saints’ ...
I like this man for biblical reference, but I find the fact he didn’t trace it back to those gods all deriving from Nimrod and Semiramis, nor mentioned The Mysteries or the scattering and how it has spread and seeped into everything rather disturbing.
There are many Christians unknowingly being led towards idolatry and false god worship. He even said the tree was to stand and admire. Look up the biblical definition of idolatry.
‘Even the elect shall be deceived’
now this is valid argument that chirstimas has been distorted and become materialict rather than having some spooky pagan origin that however doesnt mean we should not celebrtate it rather we should correct it and make it about jesus.
The reason we consider this possibility of pagan Christmas and 🌲 is because the lord hates idolatry and we know to fear him or slap him in the face with practice of anything that is a stench to him .
But we are free in all things. Paul would literally sit down at pagan feast eat meat dedicated to pagan gods and preach Jesus the Christ.
@@joemerlin152 verify this in scriptures that he ate meat dedicated to pagan gods. Book, chapter and verse.
@@gracielong3566 he may be referencing 1st Corinthians chapter 8.
@@KainL33 Eating foods sacrificed to idols is not what the main drive of the conversation is about though... I personally don't give a rip what they eat during their holiday dinner... This is about knowing the truth that Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. At all. He was not born December 25th... he was born around the Feast of Tabernacles which would be September on our gregorian calendars.
It is not weird that even non-Christians celebrate Christms when they do not believe in him? They do not recognize him as part of the festivities... mainly because many of them know it wasn't about him. Atheists even know this... so why don't Christians today get a clue and actually do their homework? It is like they are going into these traditions blindly....saying, "Well, that is just how it has always been done." That is the epitome of being ignorant. Sorry if it sounds harsh... do not take it personal, ok? I have nothing against you as you were just pointing out what the other guy might be referring to..
@@gracielong3566 Except it does, as it deals with the spirit(reason) of the law over the letter of the law. The issues Jesus had with the pharisees of the day is that they lived based off of baseless traditions and legalism(focusing on the letter over spirit of the law.) In the video he even quotes in scripture where it says not to fault others for celebrating one day or another as it doesnt actually matter. You're so focused on the legalism you falsely judge your brothers and sisters in Christ which is constantly warned against in scripture, as however you judge so will you be judged. It's good to judge but it isnt something we should so lightly do.
What a beautiful presentation. Thank you so much for your service and witness. Wonderful knowledge. Thanks for sharing. I especially like that you almost become a child talking to his father when you pray. Bless God for giving us. You.
Anytime I watch Mike's videos I expect some to disagree and also give their reasons for their stance. My thing is please let's not attack each other and go to name calling especially those of us who are believers. We don't have to agree on everything so let's respect what's right in the sight of all me. Love you guys
He's clearly trying to lead people astray. He's trying to Christianize a pagan holiday (Nimrod son, Tamuz's bday; aka, the rebirth of Nimrod). What did God say about that practice in the Old Testament? We all know the answer. Not cool Dude, not cool.
Being a true Christian is not going to be a comfortable proposition because we are called to make a stand for things that are wrong...despite popular opinions. We do love our Christian brothers and sisters and that is why we try to warn them about such things...As we draw closer to the second coming of Christ, it is going to get harder to stand up for your beliefs as his disciple... We are to be in the world but not of the world. Think that is a pretty clear direction from Christ.
Keron Brown even satan disguises himself as a messenger of light...this guy seems very likable and charismatic ...beware!!!! he should really choose his words more wisely!!!! He is pushing deception and in error!!!
Secondary sources are usually fabrications. Academics find no Primary Sources for all these claims of pagan deities born on Dec 25th - they are all secondary source fabrications long after Christianity started.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
Simple enough, where is Christmas in the Bible? Answer: no where, Christmas in not a day we are called to remember. Simple enough.
Capriceii well said
What "holiday" is called to be remembered for the church? Specially.
@@firmbeliever3847 The Lord's Day every Sunday when we do the Lord's Supper, that is the only Day we are called to do anything by our Lord Jesus Christ.
@@Capriceii Yes. The lords supper can be taken as much as one wants. The apostles did it often.
@@Capriceii Well technically the lords day is the sabbath the 7th day of the week which is Saturday. Cause Sunday is the first day of the week.
The issue is not the observance, but the reason, the attitude and the spirit in which it is done!!!
Thank you. Pastor Mike. I taught about a having a Christmas tree . What did Jesus hang on? A cross of wood Lights to symbolize the Light of the World. A star or Angel. The presents we give are symbolic of the Greatest present ever given.
The cross Jesus is hanging on is also called a tree in Isaiah.
As it is written:
Jeremiah 10:3-4 King James Version (KJV)
3 For the customs of the people are VAIN: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Yeah, he somehow couldn't find this scripture in his deep searches. 🙄 You can manipulate anything, but remember YOU are accountable for teaching others wrong things before Yahweh on judgement day. You KNOW your tree does not in any shape form or fashion point to the birth of the savior.
@@lsansing1783 Exactly. I won't put one up in our house. It is done and over with. Used to love the holiday until the Lord showed me what it was really about.
@@whydoweexist518 this IS EXACTLY 100% what people do. They worship the trees. They are idols. Maybe you should brush up on what an idol is.
@@whydoweexist518 Perhaps you should read the whole chapter then and stop making these accusations? It is talking about a pagan practice of cutting down trees and decorating them with silver and gold! A practice that is STILL going on today in Christian homes! It is a mix of two pagan holidays combined with Christianity . Should NOT be done.
@@lsansing1783 I know there are many of my Christian friends who will put up not just one tree in the house, but 3-4! And each one has "theme".... Some people string up so many lights on their homes that it could be used to light an airport runway! And how many of these same people will go out to Walmart the day after Thanksgiving and dang near kill one another to get the lowest price on a tv or new iphone or toy for their kid? Christmas is so far removed from anything that is Christ... It is sickening, to be honest. No scripture was taken out of context; it was quite relevant....but they are seeking to justify their tradition, not seeking the truth.
And they need to stop lying to their children about Santa Clause! What happens when these kids grow older and realize that was a farce? Then they will question everything else about Christmas... and how will they explain that the birth of Christ was not a lie? It has been woven into their Christmas tradition, so the real Jesus becomes a big joke like Santa and the Easter bunny. Serioiusly...! You believe in teaching your children the 10 commandments: Don't take God's name in vain, don't cheat, DON'T LIE??? Then they should stop lying to them about Santa Clause! My oldest boy knew at 2-3 years old that Santa wasn't real and he told his little brother later.
I enjoy your teachings, but this one seems ignorant of the facts. God led my family to turn away from celebrating Christmas and we have been blessed for it. Christmas is a made up holiday to convert pagans to Catholicism.
If God lead you to stop celebrating it, then you were celebrating something else but the fact how the Word became flesh and why He did it.
Exactly this is Catholic propaganda, it is well know that Jesus was not born in December. They merged the birth of Jesus with already existing pagan celebrations and winter solstice. It is an abomination to try to convert pagan rituals into something for Christ.
Cool,I’ll still be celebrating
Yes, J Patt, it is the offering up of strange fire, and a disrespect and worse to the Lord.
My mother also always told us the truth. I never felt inferior towards others kids. It.
Oh Holy Night
* Yeshua's birth date is likely the last day of the sixth month.
* Yom Teruah starts at evening on the day/date before 1st of 7th month.
* Joseph and Mary were in Bethlehem and probably dwelling in a sukkah near relatives for Yah's appointed fall holy days and Sukkot Feast of Tabernacles.
* Romans logically collected taxes during this post harvest time.
* Guest rooms were filled up so they built a cozy sukkah for the birthing and for them to "tabernacle" in.
* That dark new moon holy night Marium squeezed out her son the Son of Yehovah to the sounds of joyful shouts, loud trumpet blasts, and teruah praises of heavenly hosts.
* Mashiach's birth was on Yah's appointed "do no work" sacred day for us to sound shofar and shout praise to Elohim. But on that appointed holy night Israel also made trumpet tribute to Immanu'EL the future King of kings.
* Yeshua will return in like manner with "shout" and "shofar" to fulfill His sacred Yom Teruah event.
He is the reason for Yah's appointed seasons.
HalleluYAH!
May Yahshua be with you, brother!
Nobody knows when His Human Birth was. Nor does it matter.
Scriptural reference?
YHWSHA' was born on Feast of Tabernacles.
@@ronniemann9014 where is this shown?
We are Greek and grew up putting our shoes under the Christmas tree on New Years Eve and in the morning we found money in our shoes :) I never knew the story behind it until recently!
Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the LORD, LEARN NOT the WAY of the HEATHEN, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
Believe the word of God over man, these practices are not for Christians the Father has given us HIS Holy Days to honor and worship Him as He commands us to. We have to stop doing our own thing and return to the Bible be set apart and come out of her My people less we take part in her sins and plagues.
Shalom
He addresses this somewhere in the middle of the video.
DID EARLY CHRISTIANS CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS?
"Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church...the first evidence of the feast is from Egypt." "Pagan customs centering around the January calendars gravitated to Christmas." "...In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his [Jesus] birthday. It is only sinners who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into this world" -Catholic Encyclopedia, 1911 Edition, published by the Roman Catholic Church
And to settle "some" minds out there that place no stock in any boast of Catholicism, the Roman Church is not the only one that understands this simple historic fact...
"A broad element of English Christianity still considered Christmas celebration a pagan blasphemy. The Puritans, Baptists, Quakers, Presbyterians, Calvinists and other denominations brought this opposition to early New England and strong opposition to the holiday lasted in America until the middle of the 18th century." -The Origins of Christmas," Rick Meisel, Dec. 19, 1993, p. 4.
"...Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church...." -Encyclopedia Britannica, 1946 edition
"Christmas... It was, according to many authorities, not celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church, as the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons [eg Communion - death of Christ] rather than their birth..." "...A feast was established in memory of this event [the birth of Jesus] in the fourth century. In the fifth century the Western Church ordered it to be celebrated forever ON THE DAY OF THE OLD ROMAN FEAST OF THE BIRTH OF SOL [SUN], as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ's birth existed." Emphasis added. -Encyclopedia Americana, 1944 Edition
Since there is no evidence for the observance of Christmas in the Bible, the questions arise, What is its origin? and when did its celebration begin? Lector P. Walsdenstrom says: "The custom to celebrate the birth of Christ in the last part of December began first in the fourth century. Before that the sixth of January was celebrated."-- Notes to Luke 2:8.
"How much the date of the festival depended upon the pagan Brumalia (December 25th) following the Saturnalia (December 17th-24th), and celebrating the shortest day of the year and the 'new sun'...cannot be accurately determined. The pagan Saturnalia and Brumalia were too deeply entrenched in popular custom to be set aside by Christian influence...The pagan festival with it's riot and merrymaking was so popular that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner. Christian preachers of the West and the Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity with which Christ's birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia ACCUSED THEIR WESTERN BRETHREN OF IDOLATRY AND SUN WORSHIP FOR ADOPTING AS CHRISTIAN THIS PAGAN FESTIVAL" Emphasis added. -The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge
"...within the Christian Church no such festival as Christmas was ever heard of till the third century, and...not till the fourth century was far advanced did it gain much observance. How, then, did the Romish Church fix on December 25th as Christmas-day? Why, thus: Long before the fourth century, and long before the Christian era itself, a festival was celebrated among the heathen, at that precise time of the year, in honour of the birth of the son of the Babylonian queen of heaven; and it may fairly be presumed that, in order to conciliate the heathen, and to swell the number of nominal adherents of Christianity, the same festival was adopted by the Roman Church, giving it the name of Christ." -The Two Babylons, p 93.
According to Steven Hijmans of the University of Alberta, "It is cosmic symbolism ... which inspired the Church leadership in Rome to elect the southern solstice, December 25, as the birthday of Christ, and the northern solstice as that of John the Baptist, supplemented by the equinoxes as their respective dates of conception. While they were aware that pagans celebrated a festival in honor of Sol Invictus on that day, this did not concern them, and it certainly did not play a role in their choice of the date of Christmas"
1. 'Of the mystery cult of Sol Invictus Mithras we know little with certainty, and even if we leave aside the problem of the relationship between the Mithraic mysteries and the public cult of Sol, the notion that Mithraists celebrated December 25th in some fashion is a modern invention for which there is simply no evidence.’, Hijmans, ‘Usener’s Christmas: A Contribution to the Modern Construct of Late Antique Solar Syncretism’, in Espagne & Rabault-Feuerhahn (eds.), ‘Hermann Usener und die Metamorphosen der Philologie’, Kultur-und sozialwissenschaftliche Studien, number 7 (2011).�
In short, we have no firm evidence for a festival for Sol on December 25th until Julian wrote his hymn to Helios in December of 362. The entry in the calendar of 354 is probably for Sol, although only the epithet invictus is used (above, n. 4), and probably dates to 354, although it was possibly added later. Circumstantial evidence suggests that a festival of Sol on the winter solstice was not yet included in such calendars in the late 320s. As the Christian celebration of Christmas on December 25th can be attested in Rome by AD 336, at which point it may already have been well-established,34 and the celebration of Sol on that day cannot be attested before AD 354/362 and had not yet entered the calendar in the late 320s, it is impossible to postulate that Christmas arose in reaction to some solar festival. There is quite simply not one iota of explicit evidence for a major festival of Sol on December 25th prior to the establishment of Christmas, nor is there any circumstantial evidence that there was likely to have been one.’, Steven E Hijmans, “Usener’s Christmas: A Contribution to the Modern Construct of Late Antique Solar Syncretism”, in M. Espagne & P. Rabault-Feuerhahn (eds.), Hermann Usener und die Metamorphosen der Philologie. Wiesbaden, Harrassowitz no. 7 (Wiesbaden, Harrassowitz: 2011).�
6. ‘All this casts doubt on the contention that Christmas was instituted on December 25th to counteract a popular pagan religious festival, doubts that are reinforced when one looks at the underlying understanding of Sol and his cult.’, Steven E Hijmans, Sol: The Sun in the Art and Religions of Rome (S.l.; Groningen: s.n.; University Library Groningen 2009), 592.�
7. ‘But all our surviving calendars that preserve the month of December mark 17 December as the date for the Saturnalia. In his discussion of the origins of the Saturnalia, Macrobius explains that the Saturnalia was often celebrated over three days from 14 to 17 December, since the former was the date given by the Numan calendar, the latter the date given by the Julian calendar after Caesar added two days to the month.’, Carole E. Newlands, Statius’ Silvae and the Poetics of Empire (Cambridge University Press, 2002), 236.
There is no evidence of any kind, not even a hint, from wihin the cult that this, or any other winter day, was important in the Mithraic calendar. Although three seasonal zodiacal signs are singled out in the iconography (Taurus, Leo and Scorpius), Aquarius, the sign that would correspond to notional mid-winter, being diametrically opposite to Leo, is never paid special attention.75 No Mithraic votive is dated 25th December (VIII A.D. KAL. IAN.). Nor is there any mention among the dipinti in the mithraeum of S. Prisca of Mithras' birthday, though the first line of a zodiacal poem was written up on the wall, starting, quite unconventionally, with Aries, the first sign of Spring.76.', Alvar, 'Romanising oriental Gods: myth, salvation, and ethics in the cults of Cybele, Isis and Mithras', in Gordon (ed. trans.), Religions in the Graeco-Roman World, p. 410 (2008).
From the foregoing, it should have become clear that a winter tradition for the birth of Jesus probably did circulate by the third century, as witnessed by Clement and Tertullian, and possibly also by Julius Africanus (see below). Philipp E. Nothaft, “Early Christian Chronology and the Origins of the Christmas Date: A Defense of the ‘Calculation Theory’,” in Questions Liturgiques 94 (2013) Pg. 258
"The fact that Africanus began a new cosmic year from the resurrection therefore indicates that he counted the years of the world from 25 March, which was a Wednesday in 5501 BCE, Africanus’ year of creation. It would hence seem that he structured his chronicle around the date 25 March, because he was pleased with the correspondence of the resurrection with the fourth day of creation, on which the sun and moon began their course (making this day the beginning of calendrical time). If he counted exactly 5500 years between the creation and the divine incarnation, this would mean that 25 March was also the exact date of the latter event, referred to as the sarkosis in the text, by which he likely meant the conception in the womb. If this is the case, then Africanus implicitly dated the birth of Jesus to the following winter, perhaps even to 25 December."-- Philipp E. Nothaft, “Early Christian Chronology and the Origins of the Christmas Date: A Defense of the ‘Calculation Theory’,” in Questions Liturgiques 94 (2013) Pg. 263.
"Hippolytus’ use of the Roman calendar and its placement of the Vernal Equinox on March 25 is therefore a key reason why he seems to have chosen December 25 as the birthday of Jesus. While it seems probable that Hippolytus himself chose December 25, if he did not, then it is clear that the slightest
manipulation of his methods would have easily resulted in its selection.
Nothaft has recently argued that Julius Africanus most likely also chose
December 25 in 221 CE using similar methods. This, coupled with Hippolytus’
probable choice around the same time, further argues that the selection of
December 25 as the birthday of Jesus occurred sometime in the early third
century, more than 100 years before its earliest explicit attestation in the
Chronography of 354.-- Calculating December 25 as the Birth of Jesus in Hippolytus’ Canon and Chronicon
by Thomas C. Schmidt (2015) pg. 583
While the History of Religions Theory currently holds great sway in both
academic communities and popular culture, its foundations are not as strong
as commonly thought. Work by Hijmans has drawn attention to the fact that
evidence for a festival to Sol on December 25 is quite slim and hence the idea that it provided a basis for dating the birth of Jesus is just as tenuous.--Calculating December 25 as the Birth of Jesus in Hippolytus’ Canon and Chronicon
by Thomas C. Schmidt (2015) page 544-545
The scarcity of hard evidence substantiating the History of Religions Theory has led a growing number of students and scholars to call it into question. As we have seen, the theory rests almost completely upon inferences that are equally susceptible of being interpreted the opposite way. Where an inference is capable of supporting two opposing conclusions its evidentiary value is for all intents and purposes negated. That leaves only direct evidence of contemporary sources to support the theory, of which there is none. No hard evidence that the festival Natalis Sol Invicti is the true source of the Christmas date occurs in any contemporary source: no epistles, no decrees, no historical accounts, nothing. Kurt M. Simmons, Revisiting the Fathers An Examination of the Christmas Date in Several Early Patristic Writers 8 Questions Liturgiques (2017) 143-180 pg. 146
The sixth of January was celebrated for the exact same reason Dec. 25th was celebrated. There was a disagreement about when Jesus died, and there was a myth that prophets died 9 months from the day they were born. Some people thought Jesus died on March 25, some people thought Jesus died on April 6. So if you add nine months to March 25, you get Dec. 25. If you add 9 months to April 6, you get Jan. 6. The Orthodox church, from what I understand, still celebrates Christmas in January. It was a disagreement about when he died, correlating to mythology about prophets dying on the same day, 9 months out, from when they were born.
If you take a glass of clean water and mix poison into it, does the water purify the poison or does the poison contaminate the water?
@@jepizzo2 flawed analogy because nothing about the Christian practices involved in Christmas are poisonous
It does feel good to give gifts though, you've got to admit it does.
If you aren't observing God's feasts you don't have time for christmas and easter. God told us to observe HIS feasts.
We dont need to keep those OT feasts, they were a shadow of things to come(Christ) Paul says to "get out of the shadow". We are only told to observe the Lords Supper.
@@htebazileeilsel2293 which is false! There is only the sabbath. Stop trying to half step being set apart
@@heavensent4362 What did Jesus do on a sabbath that made Pharisees so angry?
@@NCSiebertdesign he broke THEIR laws NOT His law
Research the Talmud and oral tradition
Just now seeing this. Im a Christian and celebrated it my entire life (including santa :( )
However, I have done a ton of research and none of it came from that movie you mentioned. My main issue is the solstice did occur and was celebrated by pagens for their gods.
But doesnt god tell us in the Bible, not to celebrate like the other nations?!?!?!
How do we explain that?
I get my info from the Bible, not man.
Solstice isn't on the 25th though?
This is the most important point IMO. Yah tells us NOT to celebrate like the other nations but I think it's super super important to understand that many folks calling themselves Christians are actually Luciferians and are worshipping POP CULTURE JESUS.
Pop Culture Jesus is a liberal, non-judgemental socialist hippie who doesn't talk about sin and has no healing powers. This is NOT biblical Jesus!!! They are referring to satan and are grooming humans to accept satan as their king (I'd rather die). They consistently try to make the case for satanic/pagan practices, rituals and holidays by framing them as Christian.
Don't fall for their lies!!
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Genesis 1:14
That's from God, not man.
The solstace is just a way of measuring time.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
it's not about the date we just want to celebrate the entry of Jesus into this world, all these atheists and muslims have nothing better to do.
Sorry, but YES, there is the Nativity is the 3 Gospels with the Magi bringing Jesus gifts, lead by God.
Any "Christian" who condemns you for celebrating the birth of your Savior is not worthy of your ears. Jesus is the Great Redeemer... His birth is SUPREMELY sacred, as well as His resurrection. They SHOULD be commemorated in some way. If you choose to celebrate His birth, life, death, and resurrection, that is a GOOD thing... EVEN if you use symbols, pageantry, imagery, or on a day that long dead pagans used in their "holidays" to do so, GOOD. If YOU aren't using those symbols/pageantry/imagery the same way, for the same purposes, you are NOT engaging in their idolatry. Unless that pageantry or symbolism is OBVIOUSLY contrary to Biblical Holiness, it's fair game if it doesn't cause your brother to stumble or if it doesn't violate your conscience.
END.OF.STORY.
If Jesus can redeem your souls, the cross, baptism, or blood sacrifices, then a "day" (which belongs to HIM anyway) is eezy peezy.
God bless my friends!!!
The whole time i was thinking "How can you seem so sound in other matters and rebuke people for all sorts of things but defend christmas?" But then I remember that even the "Prince of Preachers" had an idol/tradition he wasn't willing to give up for the sake of his flock: smoking cigars and you sir, just told us yours! It's God's humorous way of showing us how no man under the sun is infallible and that we should not rely on man's twisted theology but His word alone.
Agreed
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
I've never told my kids Santa was real. Granted there's worse things to lie about, but I always try to instill the importance of honesty to them, and a lie is a lie and a sin, no matter how small or seemingly innocent it is. Rather, I tell them Santa is just a fictional, yet fun symbol of Christmas, with the reason for celebrating it is for Jesus.
I believed it to be pagan. But, the verse saying you make the day. For the lord or not your choice. Poked holes in every argument that convinced me. Cause that means, you could literally take any pagan holiday, and make it a righteous holiday, by simply making the lord the center piece. Solid. Thanks man.
What? So as long as you say I love Jesus any other holiday is ok? Even if it goes against the Bible?
So what would you say about the Israelites that God wiped out because they began to worship the golden calf believing to be worshipping YHWH? You can’t take any pagan holiday and turn it into your own personal way to worship God, he commanded us not to worship like the pagan nations do, it’s not about how you feel, it’s about what God has asked
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 the moral of the story is that the Israelites worshipped God in their own way whatever they saw fit, and it made God burn with rage, which is effectively what we do when we take part in Christmas which is rooted in paganism, however you want to spin it, God does not want you to worship him in the ways that you feel are fine, he wants you to worship him in the ways he has commanded in his word
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 the passage about the golden calf makes no mention of orgies for a start, what it says is that Israel made for themselves an idol, presented offerings and bowed down to it and said these are your gods Israel, who brought you out of Egypt. They worshipped God in their own way believing their idols and ways of worship to be correct but instead incurred the wrath of God. Just because Christmas doesn’t go to the extremes of orgies doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. You can’t worship God in whatever way you like.
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 I’d rather focus on what Gods word has to say about issues.
Deuteronomy 4:2-4
Destroy completely all the places where the nations you are dispossessing have served their gods-atop the high mountains, on the hills, and under every green tree. Tear down their altars, smash their sacred pillars, burn up their Asherah poles, cut down the idols of their gods, and wipe out their names from every place. You shall not worship the LORD your God in this way.
Deuteronomy 4:29-32
When the LORD your God cuts off before you the nations you are entering to dispossess, and you drive them out and live in their land, be careful not to be ensnared by their ways after they have been destroyed before you. Do not inquire about their gods, asking, “How do these nations serve their gods? I will do likewise.”
You must not worship the LORD your God in this way, because they practice for their gods every abomination which the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
See that you do everything I command you; do not add to it or subtract from it.
Thank you for this video, I had been agonizing over celebrating Christmas this year and up until just this month had chosen not to, for many reason, but the idea that it was a pagan converted holiday and that God told us NOT to worship him as the pagans worship being the predominant one, aside from the fact that we actually know very little of how the first Christmas came to be, my reason for changing my mind was three fold:
- though the celebration itself is not in the bible, the event we are celebrating IS. It is not necessarily the birth that we celebrate but the announcement that he was HERE, from the angels to the Shepard and the recognition of the star by the wise men. We celebrate it because Jesus coming to us in the flesh IS something to celebrate! Christians who celebrate Christmas ARE celebrating it for this reason, its NOT like they sneak into the back room to worship another God on Christmas, the day is a day in remembrance to Christ!
- a big reason I was led to believe we should NOT celebrate it is that it is not a holiday given to us by God, like the old Testament feasts which each had a special meaning and that God told us what to celebrate in the old Testament and celebrating anything else was somehow breaking a commandment. Then I realized that in the old Testament the Israelites and later the Jews DID celebrate other events as well, for example, in the first century the Jews were celebrating the dedication (Hanukkah) and Jesus actually went TO the celebration just like he did the other feasts. Now, in the first century this holiday was NOT in Scripture, God didn't command it, and yet the Jews celebrated it and Jesus, according to our New Testament, attended and had nothing to say about it in the way of "not celebrating other holidays". The Jews were celebrating the re-dedication of the temple and the miracles that happened during it, a significant religous event in their history! If Jesus was ok with them celebrating THAT event I can't see how he would NOT be ok with us celebrating the event of his first coming to accomplish his great work on earth! Now that I've put this together I actually find that it could be seen as insulting to Christ for us to turn our back to celebrating Christmas, celebrating his first coming!
- once I did my OWN research, instead of just taking people's word for it, on the holiday I came to the conclusion that many of the supposed "facts" about parts of Christmas being pagan traditions, or even the entire thing being a converted pagan holiday, were NOT actually grounded in ANYTHING BUT speculation, we DON'T have any of this supported by actual historic evidence or documentation. And the parts that I believe may ACTUALLY come from pagan traditions are very easily cut out of our celebration. For example, We have removed Santa from our Christmas as well as anything else I can't find historical support for as being started by Christians or having ACTUAL pagan roots, and really Santa is the only thing I can really point to that is specifically something I believe Jesus might frown upon. We are celebrating this year with special attention to keep Christmas Christ-centered and i do believe that is how HE would want us to do it.
@Cynthia Pope the ways the heathen "worshiped" (which is what the verse you are sighting actually says) was to drink to drunkenness, have sexual orgies, sacrifice their own children in fire, homosexual casual sex and many other such things. This verse has nothing to do with what Christians do on Christmas. And please site just ONE pagan God that was born of an ACTUAL virgin, all the deities mentioned in Zeitgiest being born of a virgin weren't, this was false information not found anywhere in real scholarship, so if you know this to be a fact prove it and list them for me WITH your actual historical sources sited that they were born of virgins, there is no evidence of this, it's all made up. If you don't want to accept and celebrate Christ's incarnation on Earth no one is going to force you but the least you could do is let us be to celebrate our Lord and Savior in peace.
Your reply is awesome. It’s well thought out and shows your journey. It sounds a lot like mine. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Check out Nimrod the tree the gifts and his fake rebirth.Its all in one package. It ties in all three. Learn not the way of the pagan in Jeremiah 10. I'm glad you have the eyes to see and the ears to hear.
I beg to differ what you mentioned about Hanukkah (feast of Dedication). Yes it’s true that Jews have extra holidays that are not mentioned in the Bible. But the only difference between them and celebrations like Easter, Christmas and Halloween is that they’re NOT founded on a pagan foundation. Purim and Hanukkah are about Jewish victories, they are not pagan in origin. Christmas on the hand, has plenty of pagan traditions that are still used today.
Yeshua was a practicing Jew, he would not have celebrated Saturnalia (another inspiration for Christmas).
In Colossians 2:8 it states to beware of “traditions of men” or “human tradition”, meaning we mustn’t be distracted or practice the traditions of what other nations do. It would be no better than me saying that if I decide to celebrate Hindu holidays and keep Yeshua as the center, it won’t matter the traditions even if they’re really meant for others gods.
Look at the story of the Israelites. They are an example of us, who we are today as Messiah believers. They wanted to celebrate something, so they decided, NOT to worship others gods but create an image of God almighty in the form of a calf (this is based on context study but it gives a different perspective). Was it pleasing to God that that they were worshipping Him in the form of a calf? No.
In like manner, celebrating Christmas is like the golden calf. Personally, I find the Jewish feasts all having a link to Yeshua. I find nothing about him in these western holidays. Zero. In the Jewish feasts, He’s everywhere ❤️ if I dare say, even Hanukkah. The menorah is mentioned many times in the Bible but mistranslated into “lamp stand”. The symbol of the a menorah, for me, represent Yeshua and the light He gives to all of us. I hope this enlightens you to find the truth and not be stuck in tradtion-pagan founded holidays.God bless
Yep. This guy is a typical weak milquetoast type pastor. Won't speak of anything "controversial" because his YT "fame" is more important. I believe he is acting j line with his beliefs, but that he won't look deeper because it is uncomfortable. The FACTS are simple. There is no expectation or command to celebrate the birth of our Messiah. It is a FACT that decorating trees with lights is a Pagen ritual. He says "give us the documentation" all spotty like, but cannot give any documentation of the celebration of the birth of Christ with trees, wreaths, stockings, presents. He literally said "he doesn't care" because his kids enjoy it. I celebrate Christmas as it is a fun day to eat a great meal with my family. It is not Christ centered. It is not a Christian holiday, no matter how much this guys kids enjoy it lol.
The ChristMass Star and Christmass gifts, are not scriptural.
Robert Quist dude, what are you talking about??? We give gifts to commemorate and remember the 3 gifts the wise men brought to Jesus and even better, as a way to recognize Christ’s gift of salvation to each and every one of us!
The magi saying they "saw his star" came and gave gifts.
We don't know what "star" they saw, but that's what scripture reports.
oneconcerned I don’t see what your point is... I never said there were 3 magi. Only that there were three gifts. The Bible clearly states the gifts. We give gifts to commemorate this event. Also to commemorate the gift of salvation. It’s not wrong to exchange gifts on Christmas. I think all you crazies just want something to be pissed off about. And furthermore, the gifts from the magi were to respect Christ as a king, as the Messiah, but Mary and Joseph used those gifts to fund their flight to Egypt, to escape the infanticide of Herod. I agree the Catholics muddied the waters and added a lot of stuff to Christianity that is unnecessary and in some cases harmful. But idk why so many folks in these comments are getting sooo worked up about celebrating the birth of Christ.
@@kalebwright7320 May I ask...under whose authority...have you decided this? Yours? Tradition? There is a way which seemeth right unto man...those ways are the ways of death.
the star is been the star of jesus the gifts are not but what moral law is one breaking by giving gifts?
sure its not mentioned in the bible but modern medicne or driving a car is not mentioned either so by logic we must be living like anceint jews .
Dear Mike Winger, I've stopped celebrating Christmas in every shape 40 years ago. I was distressed to see my sisters as they grew up (and later as they has children) start to have Christmas trees.
I learned many years ago about how the Lord's feasts (Including Hanukkah and the Festival of Purim) are much better! However, you have pretty much given Christmas and all an explanation! While I don't think I'll "celebrate" Christmas, I now see that there's not anything wrong with it! (Of course, truly keep Christ in it!). Thanks so much for such a clear explanation!
Hanukkah sanctified the Temple of the Greek imposed Babylonian lunar calendar, and the Pharisees reinstated it in the Synagogues after the Temple was destroyed in 70AD.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
My husband and I gave up Christmas as we knew it two years ago when we believed all these other deities were born the same day and the enemy had one over on us...
I realized it was also a move of the enemy to divide and conquer us... when we didn't want to participate with our friends and family and got in fights over it all..
I see so many people say “ a true Christian wouldn’t” do x, y, or z... but when I see that behavior I think of the Pharisees and the people who killed Jesus....
Check yourself before you wreck yourself... and Christmas...
Secondary sources are usually fabrications. Academics find no Primary Sources for all these claims of pagan deities born on Dec 25th - they are all secondary source fabrications long after Christianity started.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
It is pagan at core and my family doesn't participate BUT we don't condemn anyone who does in the name of Christ; Romans 14:4-6....depends on if the Holy Ghost convicts you of sin on the matter.
I agree. It's between people and God but also as you have said I have found the Holy Spirit raising thoughts, questions and leading me to teachings surrounding this and as such I choose the Holy Spirit's guidance and leading - I would never choose to move away from Him and he is joyfully showing me a very clear spatial perception on this away from the usual traditions surrounding the holiday
I agree. If the Holy Spirit lures you away from such celebrations, do not take that lightly, but listen and obey...but people have free will. At best, all you can do is explain why you do not celebrate it as they do.... don't condemn them. I can't listen to certain songs I used to because I know that they are based on partial lies.
Dennis King the Holy Spirit inspired the whole Bible and the Holy Spirit convicts us through the Bible. If it’s not written that God wants you to celebrate this day - then it’s not from God. Because true Christians serve God HIS way and not their own ways.
@@Jesus_Saves_66 They are going to seek to justify their long held traditions and beliefs... it is easier to believe the lies than to find out they are wrong and have to "change" their ways. Some people do not handle change well at all. They are not willing to sacrifice or give up something that is comfortable to them...and this will cause a great many to fall away..
The prophet Jeremiah speaks about the Christmas tree but you do not see or hear where the early church celebrated it. Neither should we.... And this is coming from somebody who used to LOVE the holiday... Once you know the truth of its origins, you will never view it in the same way. You will understand it was not about Christ to begin with... and that makes a huge difference.
"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."
Colossians 2:16-17 NIV
Thank you, Mike Winger! Wonderful lesson you gave. I appreciate this so much. Christmas and Easter are my favorite holidays. The smells, the lights, the flowers, the music, the feeling of joy. It wasn’t until I graduated college and my husband and I started going to a church in the town we moved to that I met folks who got upset because I like Christmas. I never knew such people existed before. I started meeting others of that mindset. I started feeling guilty for enjoying Christmas. Your lesson is breath of fresh air.
That may be the reason people believe that because you mentioned everything about Christmas and Easter BUT failed to mention Jesus and I was told that's exactly what the devil 😈 (Master of Deception) wants you to do and steer you away from Jesus🤔🤔🤔🤔
I actually really needed this.
Came out of pagan new age stuff into Salvation and these ideas kind of scared me off Christmas for the last wee while.
Now I feel like I can celebrate the Lord's birth with my family in joy and in clear conscience.
Thanks Mike!
True but also he was not born on 25th. Look at when his uncle was serving in the temple and you then can see where this puts him. Conceived on hunnukah as the light of the world and born around Sukkot (feast of tabernacles) sukkot means Dwelt or tabernacle. Word became flesh and dwelt. Maybe that’s why their was no room for them to stay being that many people traveled for The feast of tabernacles.
@@marioncountyservices6692 There's no proof that Jesus was conceived on Hanukkah, or that he was born during the feast of Tabernacles, although it's not unreasonable to think that he could have been.
The reason there was no room for them to stay was because it was the time of the census - everybody had to travel to his home town to be counted.
There's nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas on the 25th of December, even if Jesus was born during Sukkot. Bottom line is we don't know when Jesus was born, and traditionally we celebrate on Dec. 25th, and it would be difficult to move the celebration now, even if we could 100% prove that Jesus was born on a different day, so we might as well continue to celebrate in December.
@@marioncountyservices6692 so what. Who cares. The actual date is irrelevant. December 25 is the settled on date that millions of Christians around the world celebrate Christ’s birth. And that’s a good thing, right?! After all, God gave us every date, and no date is pagan unless your intention is to celebrate it as pagan. Which I’m sure you’re not, or you wouldn’t be a Christian.
@@annep.1905 Jesus being God fulfilled many "appointed times". Why would his birth not be an appointed time as well and just some random day in the winter? But the most important thing is that we celebrate the arrival of our Savior. Its equally important that we don't give equal room on this day to the deception of our youngest children and the observances focusing on an immortal and omniscient deity we call Santa Clause. Santa Clause is a satanic lie used to divert attention away from our Savior. Much the same way the observances of the fertility goddess Ishtar/Ashtoreth/Easter.
@@shuacliff_7029 Honestly the exact date is irrelevant, but I would like to think Christ was born on the 25th. Nevertheless, I agree that focusing on Christ is of utmost importance. Our family has always celebrated Christ. Santa is not exactly a Satanic lie, but I do believe that the Devil has been more than happy to use the existence of St. Nicholas to draw attention away from our Savior. We have never celebrated Santa because he is not what Christmas is about.
Easter is not about Ishtar. A man made some faulty assumptions based on similarity of words in different languages. Easter comes from the German word Oster, meaning Passover. The word and variants of it are used in Luther's Bible, as well as the Tyndale Bible and other early English Bibles.
Thank you!! I have only recently heard all these things about Christmas even though I've been a Christian for decades. I've been having some distress because I have so many happy memories around Christmas and so much about it makes me feel good, but I do not want to do something that is displeasing to God. Your explanations make sense and they are along the lines of what I already thought made sense. But I've come across these Christians that are so passionate about how evil it is. This helps a lot.
Christine, I have fond memories of Christmas myself. I think its good to notice the feel good parts of Christmas and ask ourselves are we truly engaging in paganism or actually worshipping Jesus Christ. If we are worshipping God in Spirit and Truth then we should be honest about the origins of the Christmas Tradition and I believe be willing to shed off things that don't truly fit a holy worshipping of Jesus Christ. I don't think that means you cannot have joy or celebration, but I think it means we should take a true objective look at what we are doing, and why?
Yes, I have. I truly enjoy celebrating the birth of Christ. And I enjoy the general overall good feeling to the season. And it does give me more freedom to speak of Christ than at any other holiday. I agree with Mike, I am willing to chuck any holiday that truly dishonors Christ. I enjoy Christmas because it is a worshipping of God in truth and spirit for me and it's nice that it's an opportunity to celebrate Christ's initial coming through His earthly birth.
Check out Nimrods myth. It is a dead winger I mean ringer for christmas. He was dead but came alive in a evergreen tree and they put gifts to worship him on the Dec 25th. I hope you heard of Jeremiah 10 and part of Isaiah 44 that talks about crafted idols from trees.
Wow you're a great woman! That sounds very beautiful. Sadly Christmas for me isn't really nice with my family. But I hope to do so with my own extended family.
Secondary sources are usually fabrications. Academics find no Primary Sources for all these claims of pagan deities born on Dec 25th - they are all secondary source fabrications long after Christianity started.
Yes Christmas is very Pagan. I know you think it is OK to celebrate Christmas, but it is of the world. You should not do as the world does. Jesus said be no part of the world and its' ways.
Sounds good. I'll quit my job because the world works for money. Better give up my car. Better quit eating at restaurants. We shouldn't get married.we need to start stoning adulterers.and sacrificing animals. The New Testament says if you live by ONE law you have to live by ALL of them.
I Just love you Brother Mike! Thankyou for giving me this info. I have finally found Christ through Reading and studying the Gospel but you are helping me return to a good-natured reasoning.I don't know if you understand completely what I mean but all I can say Is "I'm free". There Is no turning back to the Jehovah Witness cult-religion. Thankyou
My mother is STILL deeply embedded in there. It's 💔good for you getting out...I don't do Christmas, one thing I do agree with Jaws on but I do DO CHRIST He's our Salvation absolutely and reconciler to the Father...and the Holy Spirit 🕊️🔥🕯️ not God's active force, pretty insulting but hey...
Shalom...In it's entirety.
💌🐑🐑🐑🙏🤍
For me personally, anything the the Catholic Church has created in their doctrines is scary. I refuse to lie to my children and make them think that the Messiah was born in a month called December. Of course we all utilize a Roman calendar and in my eyes, that’s an attempt to change dates and times. Do I think we are not forgiven for that? Of course not. None of us can do this without the atonement of our messiah and I believe one day we will all be set straight. I just don’t think we should put down people that refuse to keep Roman made holidays. Some of us have been convicted by the Holy Spirit in different ways and just feel more comfortable not following the Catholics holidays.
As long as you know that you're not better than anyone because of your personal convictions then that's totally fine! Abstain to the glory of God and I will partake to the glory of God
The thing is, there is no basis for believing that Roman Catholicism was responsible for our celebration of 25th December. Another myth. Perhaps Mike can address this one sometime 😁👍👍
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
Jeremiah 10: 3-4 Have you not read it? It absolutely says it is pagan to cut down a tree, drag it inside and decorate it. Yes, the Father said that.
Did you actually check the scriptures for any of this?
They would cut the tree into the image of a god. Big difference
Really, have You Not read it?
The Entire chapter is talking about how they carved idols from the trees they have cut down. Carved from a portion of the trees they set aside, and burned the rest of the trees. And they worshipped those idols. Idols that are nothing, that can't hear, see, walk, speak, think, smell, feel. That is what God says is vain. This would make absolutely no sense if this was talking about simply cutting a tree down and standing in your house. Because a tree can't talk, walk, see, hear, or anything, and we wouldn't expect a tree to able to do such things. But it does make sense when you are talking about a statue in the image of man, that has a face, arms, legs, etc. And who is worshipping Christmas trees? No one says to a Christmas tree, "you are God". But that's exactly what people said to the works of their hands that they made in Jer 10. They spent much money, to have skilled craftsman make these idols, and to cover them with real silver and gold. What person covers their Christmas tree in real silver and gold, who has the money and values their tree so much that they would do that? I certainly never have, nor have I known anyone who has.
And you actually say, "did you actually check the Scriptures for any of this?"
You clearly didn't even look at this one chapter.
And it's pretty clear you didn't even watch this video either, along with a number of others who have commented on this. You simply believe that Christmas is pagan without facts, and that God hates it. You are simply wanting to war against Christmas, probably Easter too.
And no, God doesn't say what you claim He has said.
Believe what you want. People worship the tree in December every year. They have festivals for lighting them. Those things are forbidden.
@@lsansing1783 so my husband can't cut roses from our rose bush and put it in a vase and tie a red ribbon with a card on it around it and put it on the coffee table, take a picture of me with the roses and tell me how much he loves me and how greatful he is to God that He gave us each other? Cause that is the same, except its about our love for each other and a Christmas tree is about Jesus love for us.
You are right, Leslie Sansing. The Lord convicted me regarding Christmas, Easter, and Halloween. I will never partake in any of them ever again. I know it came from the Lord because I have sooooo loved Christmas my whole life, but as I studied history (on my own, not from anyone else) and especially the Bible, God showed me that I needed to give those pagan holidays up. They are indeed pagan. I didn't watch that move and I don't listen to Bill, but I know the devil mixes lies with truth in order to deliberately deceive people. This is probably what the movie and Bill have done, knowing people would see the lies and then wouldn't believe any of it. Then they can justify celebrating Christmas. It's a fact that Jesus was not born on December 25th. It was the rainy season and the shepherds would not have been out with their flocks at that time. We do have an idea of when Jesus was born because it would have been about 6 months after John the Baptist and we have a very good indication of when that was. Jesus would have been born in the fall, probably in September. We know that Christmas has the story of the birth of Jesus WRONG. The Bible says that when the Magi got to Jesus, he was already "a young child" and living in a house! Yet every year we see the Magi around a manger in the Nativity scenes. Worshipping trees goes back a very long way. All we have to do is read about the "groves" and "high places." And you are spot on with the beginning of Jeremiah. Neither God nor Jesus ever told us to celebrate Jesus's birth. Instead Jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" referring to communion. The Catholic Church brought paganism into their church when they mixed Christian beliefs with paganism. Constantine worshipped Mithras, the Persian sun god. If you don't believe modern sources, go to back to old sources. "Come out of her, my people." I am done with them.
Finally I have the Joy of The Lord back in my heart after the enemy lied to me through a fellow believer about Weinachten (Christmas). My Mom is German, I grew up with the story of Martin Luther and what the symbolism of the tree and lights are. We never had any santa clause ever, and I have the most wonderful memories of Weinachten, how it all is about Jesus! A celebration to Thank our Lord Jesus Christ for His birth, life, ministry, death and resurrection, ultimately saving us from our sins. Thank you again and God bless you abundantly!
Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you." MATT 24:4
If Jesus was not born on 25 December, then what are you celebrating there?
She’s celebrating exactly what she told you she’s celebrating. Just like when I light a pagan candle I’m not driving out evil spirits or when I ring Christmas bells 🔔 I’m not scaring them away. Or how the Swastika used to mean good fortune am I going to decorate my house with swastikas now? Given what it means today, no. Things change and something’s pagan origin doesn’t dictate it’s use today. How we celebrate a tradition or holiday today with our own conscience is what matters
@@alexanderstephen1567 I'm celebrating my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. And if you have a problem with that, take it up with Jesus, not me. By the measure you judge you will be judged.
@@alexanderstephen1567 so do you know when exactly Jesus was born? Can you give me a date? My birthday is 16 January and I have celebrated my own birthday numerous times the 28-31 January cause then there's enough money to go on a family outing for the day. And FYI I live in South Africa, born here also. So no connection to Winter Solstice or anything! If there's a swimming pool nearby, I love to swim on Christmas day. And another thing, we don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th, but on the night of 24th, Weinachten! Weinachten means Holy Night. So what's your issue with me when I want to sing praises to my Lord Jesus Christ and read Scripture and tell each other that Jesus gave us the biggest gift, His life! What exactly is your problem here? When we have a gathering, a service of believers who happens to be family to celebrate JESUS, what is YOUR PROBLEM?!!!
@@SoniaJbrt You remember and do all that once a year? I thought Christianity happens every second.
I have no problem, just don`t make this scriptural, cause it's not.
The only celebration Jesus gave us is The Last Supper other celebrations I don`t know from the Bible.
I don`t think Jesus is honored that you "celebrate" His birth.
What really honors Christ is when you put your life at risk for His Name. When you help the poor. When you live a holy life. When you are not ashamed to proclaim His name in public places. When you are NOT afraid to tell the truth even if that costs your freedom, your financial status, your reputation, and your life. When all your intentions are pointed towards His Kingdom with all sincerity and passion acting, not only "wanting".
The fact that there is no Christmas without the green tree or Santa, makes me wonder how much is this about Jesus. I mean, how many times do you see children really speak about Jesus on Christmas? None, because Jesus is only an excuse.
Jesus is impressed by sincere faith that acts, not by a global once-a-year fancy celebration...
You're free to do it, but try it without the tree and without the ornaments and celebrate Jesus' birth in your heart. Will this work? If this will not work then you're not celebrating Jesus at all.
The dispute over weather Christmas is pagan or not is not between secularists and Christians. The dispute over weather Christmas is pagan or not is between Christians and Christians. Some Christians don't practice Christmas because they believe that it is pagan.
th-cam.com/video/ZHgRWy3wCws/w-d-xo.html cause it is
Some christians cannot give up Christmas, because they use the excuse that Jesus is the reason for the season.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
As someone who grew up NOT celebrating Christmas as a Christian, I am having to re-evaluate everything. I do not yet know where I truly stand and would rather stand back and get it right before celebrating it. So, I have this question for you, Mike, and anyone else: As the Golden Calf was a physical representation of God (yes big G God as it is in the original Hebrew) and created for what one could assume was a good reason (to have a symbol to represent God now that Moses was assumedly dead) wouldn't the symbolism of Christmas be a modern version of that? Let us keep in mind that the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet is Aleph whish was a pictogram of bull/calf and gold represented purity. I do not disagree with you, Mike, but I am just being careful and thoughtful. Do you have any thoughts on this.
Also, do you have a video on Easter? I would love to watch it.
My thought is that the (main, at least) problem was, specifically, with the worship of the bull. I certainly wouldn’t recommend worshipping a Christmas tree. And there is a difference between being symbolic of God in that it is something that will make you think of Him versus symbolic in that it is meant to represent God Himself. But that’s just my not-very-educated thought.
Is there a benefit of celebrating Christmas? Or having a Christmas tree? None. The Bible says eyes fixed in Christ. Only because a preacher started it doesn’t mean we have to continue. I appreciate, love and respect Martin Luther, but I mean, I never heard of the Apostles putting up a tree etc. We should celebrate God’s amazing love by taking human form and coming into the world to save us more than once a year. Jesus is God, God is Eternal and The Lord already ascended to Heaven, I am not sure why we continue celebrating His “bday”. At least that’s what the world claims. Even atheists celebrate this holiday. That’s just what I think. God bless you all
You agree we should celebrate God's amazing love by coming in the form of man to save us all but you don't understand why we continue to celebrate the day His incarnation as man came into the world (i.e His birth from Mary's womb into the world) ? I'm totally confused ?
@@lellyt2372 Where did the date of December 28 come from? That's not biblical, I don't trust Christmas
gi Diaz - just a humorous reply. When you were on your taking your Drivers Test, did you text on your cell phone, or do U Turns on black ice to impress the Tester? The apostles were too busy nursing their wounds from persecution from authorities, they did not think of putting up a tree - just like you would not make false moves when you were in the serious situation like getting a Drivers License. Likewise the apostles did not come to make traditions - traditions just evolved. Do you have three meals a day? It's a tradition. Why not just go shoot a deer and eat it in all one setting (before the age of freezers)? That's just as ridiculous as what you propose !!! Likewise, just because atheists eat food, then why are YOU eating food ? No food for you buddy !!!
Gi Diaz - another 3xample, if you are stopped by police, do you excuse yourself by saying you have a stew in the oven, then shower, shave, and return 10 hours later....that’s the same as Paul dodging bullets (arrows, swords) while putting up a Christmas tree, running to Walmart to get lights (if there was a Walmart in those days). - just to make a Christmas tree tradition.... That’s why they had. No trees in those days...
Gi Diaz why go to the mall o shop? Why go to restaurants? Why go to a theater? Why watch tv? Why own a car? Why get a home? Why go to school? Why eat what the world eats? Why drink what the world drinks? I mean even atheists do this all and none of it is mentioned in the Bible. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m against the LITURGICAL Christmas, such as celebrated by Catholics, who deem it mandatory.
Jeremiah 10: 1-4
God is not the author of confusion you can't serve two masters you will love one and hate the other
Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Romans 14 sums it up for me. Also it's good to remember In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity.
@WarmPotato God made the gentiles holy. You go straight to the old testament which is before Christ's sacrifice and then apply that to today. After Jesus's death and resurrection he then went to the gentiles.
@WarmPotato I take it you paused the video and then started commenting. And never actually listened to it.
@WarmPotato Romans 14:5-6 (NKJV) One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.
In other words, whatever you do, do it unto the lord. If you want to celebrate Christmas, great! Just do it unto the Lord. If you don't want to celebrate Christmas, that's great too.
But as Romans 14: 12-13 also tells us:
So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,
The Christmas tree is often idolized along with Santa. That is wrong.
So what?? What does Santa Claus have to do with the birth of Jesus?? Money is often idolized as well... is money pagan??
@@smashleyscott8272 the thought of its power is
Never mind the fur tree, Saint Nicolas, the lights, the gifts, the music, etc… just remember the arrival of our Lord and Savior, Jesus. The Word becoming flesh and being born is worth celebrating. All the other exterior elements don’t matter.
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December - Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - four days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 16: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's gestation BACKWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany conception; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's Last Great Day !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January and then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey,,
Hello, Thank you for your presentation. I recognise this was made years ago, But do you have source documents you could share? Particularly for the Ancient Myths, and the dates for the Unconquerable Sun festival.
Thank you!
Thanks for posting this request! I am also interested in seeing any original documents there may be on this subject 👍
Thanks for posting this request! I am also interested in seeing any original documents there may be on this subject 👍
Thanks for posting this request! I am also interested in seeing any original documents there may be on this subject 👍
Thanks for posting this request! I am also interested in seeing any original documents there may be on this subject 👍
So awesome to read all the posts from the holier-than-thou, conspiratorial, tinfoil-hat-wearing "I-don't-go-to-church, I-go-to-Internet-Church" Christians who didn't even watch the video but are posting all these comments acting like Christian is Pagan. You guys are so awesome! Way to go u guys! The one time of year when it's still socially acceptable to talk about the birth of Jesus, and why were you celebrating, and you guys are standing over there with Bill Maher and the atheist! You guys are so great! Satan's like "I can destroy Christmas", the legalistic Christians are like "hold my eggnog". 😆😆😆
@Cynthia Pope Quote that exact phrase in scripture.
I may not like how you phrased this, but I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment!! Merry Christmas!!!
@Cynthia Pope ... there is not a single verse in the Bible, Old or New Testament that says this... NOT ONE.
As a matter of fact, the Gospels of Matthew & Luke BOTH record the Magi from the east being lead by a star, an angel, and prophesy out of the Book of Daniel to find the baby Jesus, where they worshipped Him and presented Him with at least three super expensive and valuable gifts. Was a GLORIOUS celebration!!!
@Cynthia Pope That verse has nothing to do with celebrating Christ's birth. Let me give you a passage that shows Christ's birth was an event celebrated in Scripture.
And the angel said to them, "Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger." And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!" When the angels went away from them into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, "Let us go over to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has made known to us." And they went with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby lying in a manger. And when they saw it, they made known the saying that had been told them concerning this child. And all who heard it wondered at what the shepherds told them.
Luke 2:10-18 ESV
@Cynthia Pope ... so, let me get this straight... you are now an atheist, who blames her atheism on Christians who are "lukewarm", yet want to lecture Christians on the Scriptures that you clearly do not understand, yet reject?? Seriously?? THAT is your rebuttal to Christians celebrating Christmas??
Baptism was a pagan practice that dates as far back as ancient Egypt... it is now symbolism in Christianity. Jesus celebrated Hannukah, which isn't ordained in the Mosaic Law. Jesus celebrated at a wedding reception, which also isn't ordained in the Mosaic Law. When the world looks at the cross, they don't see a symbol of Roman/Greek/Persian Empire form of public humiliation & execution, they see a symbol of sacrifice & salvation. The first celebration of the birth of Christ is recorded in the Gospels of Matthew & Luke. Romans 13-15 makes it clear to Christians that NOTHING is itself unclean.
And you STILL have yet to quote a verse that commands Christians to not celebrate birthdays, and you have yet to quote Jesus telling His disciples to not celebrate His birth. In light of the FACT that the Avery first celebration of His birth is recorded in the Gospels, it would be rather ironic if He had. Which he didn't.
When you stand face to face with your Creator on your day of judgement, your excuses for rejecting Him will utterly melt away.
I liked the part about trying to find true primary sources. But Mike, can you provide your sources too? Would be helpful
I was wondering the same here..
At least Inspiring Philosophy (TH-camr) provides with books and what page they are on.
There’s nothing wrong with celebrating Christ’s birth on that day, just make sure you keep it Christ-centered. I don’t tell my daughter about Santa Clause or the lie that he’s gonna give her gifts, etc. We read scripture and watch cartoon movies depicting the nativity story and gift-giving isn’t a major priority.
You mean the incorrect nativity of wise men visiting the baby Jesus lying in a manger when actually Jesus was a small child living in a house when the wise men visited him? Christmas has the wrong date, the wrong details, the wrong traditions. I'm glad you don't lie to your daughter. I wish I'd never brain-washed my son with Christmas, Easter, or Halloween.
My parents did the same thing. I am happy to celebrate Christmas while worshipping Christ. Have a Merry Christmas!
I kinda do the same thing as you. I don't see it as I'm celebrating Christmas. But I'm aware that during this day most people don't work and it's easier to get together. And I take advantage of that. I invite my family and friends over. Every day is a good day to praise the Lord
6 years after still this is a great u-tube video. Jesus is the reason for the season. Merry Christmas 🎄 Jesus Christ is born to take away our sins. Amen.
Wow! So amazing and edifying to see all the comments recognizing the truth and being able to see through wishful thinking!
Christmas is in fact pagan based.
If you apply the same standard to other things besides Christmas, you'll find that literally everything is tainted with paganism.
The Bible is catalogued in a codex format. The codex was created by pagan Latins in the 100s BC. The English Language was used to worship pagan demons long before it was used to worship God. Baptism was practised by Babylonian pagans before the Israelites adopted it, and long before Christ instituted it for us.
So why only single out Christmas? Sounds like you should learn Hebrew, eschew all other languages, get your Bible in scrolled format, and, well, I don't know what you'd need to do about baptism. You're kinda stuck there.
@@VVeremoose true, like such things should not cause so much division. If you convinced that it's Pagan then don't celebrate, but don't judge those who do.
If Jesus wanted us to celebrate his birthday he would have said so. He did say not to follow traditions.
To further this point, why does no one break bread on xmas? That's how Jesus told everyone how to remember him you would think that would be in xmas some where
@@Sam-mp7oo yep, but ppl gon pagan. I wonder at times if ppl are really ppl and not demons in disguise at times. Helping to spread confusion or at least keep it consistent.
The traditions of man for the sake of man, we are honoring God on that day.
@@smallhors848 Show me where God said to celebrate his birthday? Show me where God said to honor him in any way we want? I can show you where it says to NOT do that. However, it’s YOUR soul and actions you have to be accountable for. If God was warning you and this is the warning. You cannot say, “God I didn’t know.” He will say, you did. Now I can’t say that it would be a death sentence but you aren’t giving any glory to God the creator, you are honoring god the created.
@@dizzow Colossians 2:13-16 and Romans 14:5-6, I fully believe in my heart that I am glorifying Christ on Christmas.
Even our days of the week and months of the year are named in honor of pagan deities. To be truly consistent, the Christmas grinches should stop using these, too. (And yes, there _are_ some Christians who are consistent about this, and refer to the days of the week as "first day", "second day", etc.. But they are rare.)
I dont think so, use of language is one thing, engaging in practice is another. The point of contention for most ppl isnt THE celebration of Christmas but the tradition of how it's celebrated. Although, some ppl go a bit further and exclude the day altogether but it still because they are avoiding a tradition that they believe validates paganism as opposed to what God's Word says. Its sad really in the West, Christmas is the one holiday where ppl truly get up in arms about whether you do or don't celebrate, and why you do or dont celebrate it.
God gave us His holy days. I wonder why we don’t think those are good enough and invent our own?
Did God give Jews Hanukkah?
@@Bless_301 not as a commanded Holy time as directed by Leviticus 23. However, Lev. 23 is clear that they are God’s holy days, not “the Jews’.” John 10:22 showed me that it is okay for believers to celebrate Chanukah. After all, God chose to have Yeshua conceived at Chanukah. He must have thought it was important. How we celebrate today with latkes and jelly donuts is far different than what Yeshua did, I’m sure.