I tried to remember a channel you could go to for more info on Hebrew Roots stuff. This is it th-cam.com/users/TheBeginningOfWisdom They have quite a lot of content and for those of you who need more than I have made in my 4 videos (currently) in this series, I think you should check them out.
@ 39:00; concerning “Jesus never left the land of Israel and only preached to Jews” this is over-simplistic and not true. Christ ministered to the Syro-phoenician woman, Jesus engaged with a Canaanite woman, healed the Roman Centurion’s servant, spent 2 days preaching amongst the Samaritans, and famously cast out the Gadarene demon in what many commentators agree gentile territory due to the herding of Swine. He may not have left the borders of Israel, but His instructions that He taught were clear: go ye therefore to all nations. When people in the HR movement say walk as Yeshua walked, they don’t mean wear a beard and stay in Israel. They mean obey His instruction and emulate His righteous observance of God’s Law. The Law is God’s not Moses’. Moses was the one who received it, but Christ was the one who administered it on the Mountain.
Mike Winger , you must understand that there is more than one law ; In the gospel three type of laws are talked about : 1. The laws/commandments/instructions of the Father ; which includes all the covenants ; these are instructions to righteousness ; that is why when the man asked Jesus , what good things shall I do , that I may have eternal life ? Jesus said , " KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS " . 2. The law of the mediator , which is a sin sacrifice through a priesthood , to recover you when you transgress the laws of the Father ; remember , the covenants are between the Father and the covenant people ; the mediators intercedes for the people ; they can not change the covenants . The law through the mediator Moses was the blood of the animals and oblations ; which was carried out by the Leviticus priesthood . This law was the law of works , not of faith ( Romans 3:27-28 , " Where is boasting then ? It is excluded . By what law ? of works ? Nay: but by the law of faith . Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law " ) . The law of faith is the blood of Jesus Christ through faith ; Which means that you must repent of your sins with a sorrowful , like king David did , and believe by obedience ; that means keeping your mediator ( Jesus Christ ) commandments ; which are the same laws/instructions/ commandments of the Father . In Hebrews 7:11-28 , the priesthood of works ( Leviticus ) was replaced by the priest of faith ( Melchisedec ) . Moses was the mediator of the Leviticus priesthood , and Jesus Christ is the mediator of the Melchisedec priesthood . All laws comes from the Father , but he gave the mediator laws , as the husbands/coverings/protections for the people under the covenant with the Father . Jesus Christ lived a blameless life , without sin , so he was not worthy of death ; he died not for himself , but the sins of the world . Most people do not understand that this death is a free gift for ALL MEN WHO HAVE EVER LIVED ; which is the sin of the first death , THE GRAVE . It is your faith in Jesus Christ , by repenting and start obeying his commandments , which are the same as the Father , that free you from the second death , THE LAKE OF FIRE .Jesus like Moses gave the laws of the Father , and like Moses a sin sacrifice when through the mediators , through a priesthood ( law of works or animal sacrifice and oblations through the Leviticus priesthood ; And the law of faith or blood of Christ through Melchisedec priesthood ) . To serve the Father , you MUST LIVE BY FAITH/SPIRIT . Jesus Christ did not bring you his words , but the words that the Father gave him ( Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , " The LORD thyGod will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee , of thy brethren , like unto me ; unto him ye shall hearken ; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly , saying , Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God , neither let me see this great fire any more , that I die not . And the LORD said unto me , They have well spoken that which they have spoken . I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethen , like unto thee , and will put my words in his mouth ; and he shall speak unto them all that shall command him . And it shall come to pass , that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name , I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM " ) . Jesus Christ said in John 12:44-50 , stated that any man that hear his words that he will speak in the Father's name and not believe , the same words will judge him in the last day = white throne judgment . You believe/hear/know/have faith/trust/follow Jesus Christ , when you obey his commandments ; which are the same laws of the Father . Finally , Moses told the people that the prophet would give them what they desired at Horeb or Mount Sinai ; What did they desire at Horeb or Mount Sinai , the laws/commandments/instructions ; which includes the covenants of the Father . Shalom !
the disciple if you want to correct me please make a thoughtful argument that explains my errors and shows a better way of understanding the passages of scripture that I rely on to make my case. Calling me names isn’t going to help.
@@MikeWinger a man like you cannot be corrected, you did not believe you're wrong about anything. You're teaching on the Sabbath and dietary laws,is enough to show me I could never be right with you. Neither could Jesus be right with you, because Jesus kept the dietary laws, God's holy Feasts, and The Seventh-Day Sabbath. May you be blessed, SHALOM
@@messengerisrael3817 Mark 12:30 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these." These are the commands we are to live by today. We are no longer under law. The ten commandments as law was a teacher or guardian for the Israelites/Jews until they were done away with. Jesus came and died for our sins and then conquered death and He conquered His followers deaths. Galatians 3:25 says that we are no longer under the law now that Jesus has redeemed us. Then just a few verses later in Galatians 3:28 the Word of God says that "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free". We are all one in Christ. And we will all be judged individually not as a group!
We can make all the excuses in the world...but when you understand the Gospel of Christ Jesus, you realize it's not about what you do, but what Christ Jesus has done, is doing and will do...and not us. Trust in Him! What a great Lord and Savior we have in Christ Jesus!!
For salvation yes!! Then we have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling… “So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and questionings: that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom ye are seen as lights in the world…” Philippians 2:12-14 (ASV)
@@MMH-2129 Please watch Theocast's latest video... The self validation project. I couldn't say it as full of grace as they, but it's a timely response to your assertion that God sees us with any righteousness outside of Christ's righteousness. Praying for you. The Gospel of Christ Jesus really is good news....to God goes All the glory.
@@MMH-2129 What you quoted is not by the deeds of the Torah. Fear and trembling is a term interpeted as belief, trust and faith in a all powerful GOD. Paul is teaching how the congregation is to behave not one's personal salvation to be worked out. He is teaching to the Body not the person.
@Child of The Covenant because the sacrifices literally cannot be met anymore because no one is ceremonially clean under the law. So I know for a fact that you don't keep the guilt offerings. You don't keep the sin offerings. You don't keep the fellowship offerings and you don't keep passover as prescribed under the law. Also, have you established sanctuary cities? Do you return to the bank the interest they gave you on your checking and savings account every seven years? I'd venture not. You've established those Laws which make you feel righteous in accordance with what Paul says in Colossians 2.
@Child of The Covenant and before you dismiss Paul, you better hope his letters are scripture, because they're called as such by the same Church fathers who compiled the rest of the new Covenant writings. So if Paul can't be trusted, how can you trust the gospel according to Matthew or Luke or Peter's writings by which you came to faith?
Hey brother, I appreciate your approach, your heart, and your desire for good Biblical theology, and I would actually be curious if you would be interested in doing a similar examination of some of my teachings on UNLEARN.
This is great. Mike should check out your video on deity of messiah, I think you echo some of the sentiments he does with rejection of Jesus all together.
@@unlearnthelies I really like your channel too, the Hebrew roots movement challenged me to learn more about my Christian faith and why I adhere to certain things. I'm not a roots member, but I appreciate their efforts, and their studious attention to details.
While I is in Hebrew roots I lost several friends to Judaism. It's sad. The Lord pulled me out, I stopped rejecting Paul's letters and really totally had my heart changed. I dont even know how I got tricked into going into it. I felt like a galatian, bewitched, as Paul called them. I was really confused for several years
@@purplepill5345 your name is interesting. Reminds me of mixtures. You know red pill of actual truth to overcome the blue pill of the matrix manipulation of truth. Blessings
My sister has fallen for HR. She does not think she is confused, but I think she is. I am afraid she will end in desperation. Please pray for her That she will see the light like you did.
@@trinawetzel2222 I think they like making themselves "righteous" and that is why people fall for it. Only Christ can make us righteous. Only He can save us. Humans want to be gods though and humbling themselves to Jesus' authority and giving all of it to Him seems out of our control. If they are making themselves righteous with feast days and such then they have fulfilled that need to be a god. Humility is definitely not an attribute of any I have run into. I will definitely pray for her. They twist the scriptures so much that it is confusing to even try to talk to them. They make some scriptures say the exact opposite of what they actually mean and they are all so confident in the lies and in their doctrine. They speak lies with conviction and we all know if a lie is repeated enough times people will start believing it. There is no hope without Christ, I pray your sister finds Him.
Galatians 3:27-29 (KJV) "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
These verses are far too neglected. The Greek is even stronger than it appears in English. The "put on" is enduo, which means clothed, as if putting a garment on. One is "wrapped around with a garment" with Christ and everything he is, has, and has done. When the Father's sees you, He sees Christ who covers you like a robe. You inherit everything Jesus is, has, and has done. You get it all! Nothing else necessary. Nothing to add. Nothing CAN be added, because it is EVERYTHING. Claiming anything can be added or is necessary is mocking Christ who is the All. All of the cults mock Christ in this way.
I think that the real reason why people get involved in the Hebrew roots group. Is because of learning about how far the modern day Christian Church has left God. When you take the time to do your own personal research on Halloween Christmas Easter. You start looking for ways where you can set yourself apart from these holidays. I think that the reason why people are leaving the modern day Christian Church is not because of Hebrew Roots but because of the modern day Christian Church.
@@allyahcash3063 water baptism (imposed by men) is worthless, because salvation is by grace. No works can be added to the perfect sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ.
At the root of this being a Cult is they always FAIL to Mention that there are TWO COVENANTS. That's Biblical Old and New Testament. The Bible says We are now under a better Covenant. It's a NEW and LIVING WAY.
The confusion is only the work of the enemy. Where "confusion" is or disorder, there is every evil work. The Word is clear, pure and simple. Proverbs 30:5-6. Doing the will of the Father guarantees knowing the doctrine of Jesus. Where people get confused is because they are not obeying Jesus and His voice. Come to Me. Learn from Me. Follow Me. Abide in Me. Jesus is the Way. Laying down His life, being a humble servant, obedient to death, taught by the Father, only doing what was pleasing to the Father, testifying that the deeds of the world were evil and so on. This is where it is vital. Take note as the Holy Spirit shows you what a disciple is...and how Jesus lived before the Father. Jesus also spoke against having exalted men titled over you. We are to take heed and beware of men. Colossians 2 shows the pure understanding and knowing the mysteries of God is all hid in Jesus. The truth is in Jesus. He is the pure word. But what happens is that the same old builders that reject the Cornerstone are the teachers exalted and bringing in leaven. There are four exhortations of the false teachers in that chapter. By knowing His voice through fellowship (engaging, interaction, exchange) with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, we then can discern the voice of the strangers, thieves, robbers, hirelings and wolves. Take a look at 1John 1 and you will see what John was sharing on this. Lastly, the "church system" is the proving ground. If individuals did what the Lord said to do in what I described above, they would not be deceived or confused. The deception and confusion that leads astray to error is becasue they have trusted men, and been drawn aside by other gospels, spirits and even false christs. The idolatry, love for the world, unbelief, uncleanness is NOT OK with the Lord. But there are people like Lot who vexed his righteous soul everyday in seeing and hearing what was going on in the land. So too today. And even in Jerusalem and its fullness of abominations when God marked those who were grieved about it. People get used to the stench of uncleanness when they do not get washed by the Lord. It is about sanctifying the Lord in our heart, abiding in Him, loving him and staying intimate. Then will be kept by Him for sure. Because, that was God doing it in you ...and He will keep what is His. Bless you in Jesus' name.
Yeah because they take the focus off Jesus Christ. Remember ANYTHING that takes the focus off Jesus is NOT from God. John 3:14-15 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
That confusion tends to fade away once someone finally submits to obeying the literal voice of God, rather than trying to explain it away. And, in case anyone's confused, I'm talking about the TEN Commandments, which includes the Sabbath. It's called elementary obedience.
@JJ France JJ, with all due respect to you, you are in error. For example, you emphasized "HIS commandments" (the Messiah's) as if they are somehow different than the Father's. That is simply not the case (for several reasons). Moreover, you don't have to take my word on that, as the Messiah tells us that Himself: John 7:16 NKJV Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. Additionally, lets not forget what that New Covenant you speak of is! It's the Most High writing His Torah on our hearts! Jeremiah 31:33 NKJV But this is the [new] covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law [TORAH] in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And, lastly, let me leave you these Words from the Most High, which He spoke to Moses concerning the coming Messiah; AKA: the "Prophet" (Notice the CAPITAL letters) Deuteronomy 18:18-19 NKJV (18) I will raise up for them a Prophet like you (Moses) from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. (19) And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. So, whose Words are in the Messiah's mouth? When you hear the Messiah speak, you are hearing the Father speak! So, when the Messiah says: "If you love Me, keep My Commandments", it is NO different than when He said it during the giving of the TEN Commandments! Commandments, mind you, that 99.9% of professing Christians don't keep! (Because they are deceived!) Exodus 20:6 NKJV but showing mercy to thousands, to those who *love Me and keep My commandments.* Unfortunately, most Christians are just like Philip, in that they fail to recognize who the Messiah is! John 14:8-10 NKJV Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." (9) Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (10) Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Moreover, just 5 verses after the passage above - a passage where the Messiah Himself told us that His Words are the Father's - He says this: John 14:15 NKJV "If you love Me, keep My commandments. Alas, it seems that we have come full circle... Brother Randy, Sour Milk Ministries
@JJ FranceYes, different Covenants (agreements) based on the same magnified Law. Isaiah 42:21 NKJV The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will exalt the law and make it honorable. And, in reference to the deception (of 99.9% of Christians) that I mentioned in my previous reply, please consider checking out some of my TH-cam videos... Shalom Brother Randy, Sour Milk Ministries
Mike, I have found drawing closer to Jesus and understanding his teachings so much better while understanding the Old Testament and the laws. As a follower of our Messiah I don't attempt to follow the laws for legalistic reasons or because I'm under the law but because it helps me understand Our Savior. By obedience or the desire to be obedient is a self demonstration of my own dedication to God. The 613 commandments all deal with HOW to Love God, neighbor, and self. The written instructions on how you do that. By no means are my works required, but it's a simple way to have the desire to live a holy life and desire to live a holy life. God says to Israel to be holy for he is holy, we are holy by the mercy and grace of our Messiah, and the commandments are a great way to walk like the Messiah. I don't tell my fellow Christians anymore that they should or they HAVE to follow the laws because that's not true. I did before when I was confused and legalistic but now, I just share with them why I do it. I do it because I want to, it's a lifestyle to remember HIM. The laws and holidays are a great way to remind yourself why you do what you do and the main reason I attempt it, because our Messiah (our Savior) and HIS work, it's all about Him, not us or our works. ❤️🙏 "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness," 2 Timothy 3:16 The law is more blessings. That's all. 👍
You are right that all Scripture applies and that you should keep the Torah. But you are wrong on the rest. Legalism is not a word found in Scripture. Because there is no such thing. And if you don't keep the Torah you are under the Law. The Law applies to those who break them. And we are saved By the blood of Yahusha, and because we love Him, the evidence of our love is seen in obedience to His Torah, below find the Scriptural requirements to be saved: Obedience is key to everlasting life. We are not saved by faith alone: Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone. We must have Faith, but on itself is not sufficient. Joh 3:16 “For Elohim so loved the world that He gave His only brought-forth Son, so that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life. We need to believe in His Name, belief in the wrong Name will not do! Joh 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged, but he who does not believe is judged already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only brought-forth Son of Elohim. Works on its own is not sufficient, but we need works: Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead. We can not be saved without obedience, because we receive His Spirit through obedience: Act 5:32 “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Elohim has given to those who obey Him.” Love for Yahuah will instil the obedience which will encompass all required to be saved. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. If we love Him WE WILL OBEY HIS COMMANDS. This will be the cause for us to be saved: Heb 5:9 And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting deliverance to all those obeying Him, So if you truly love Him you will seek the reason to obey rather than seek the reason to disobey His Commands. If you want eternal life? Obey His Commands: Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One - Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
“Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel. “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction.” Mal 4:3-6 (ESV)
The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:13 (ESV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3 (ESV)
Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Rev 12:17 (ESV)
Although I disagree with Mike's understanding of this particular topic, I do greatly admire how thoughtfully and lovingly he presented his position. Sadly, it's rare to find those qualities in people on either side of this argument.
The law was created to show us that we could never measure up to Gods righteousness and that we need a savior- Christ. That is the purpose of the law. Have you read the Bible ever?
@@canabiss8297 Kind of rude with that last question. People have their own understanding. This person is clearly seeking answers. God will show the truth to those who seek. We don't all have the same walk nor do we all come to the same conclusions at the same time. It is a process to undo our bias when interpreting scripture. Personally, I'm still researching this topic. Before finding out about this movement, I had already been going through my own process. I wanted to get rid of pagan practices and ideologies that twisted scripture. For a while now, I've wondered why cultures changed the Lord's Day to Sunday when God originally had it on Saturday. (In Spanish Saturday means Sabado which also means Sabbath. Interesting.) I even celebrated Passover last year. I know this sounds legalistic, but I understand that these things are not my savior. My Savior is Jesus Christ. My current perspective is that these days are a beautiful way to honor and remember God. It's like when we dedicate full days to Him with prayer except these days are appointed by God Himself. I just find it beautiful that God wants us all to be united on these special days each with its own unique theme. I don't fully support the Hebrew Roots Movement, but I do see where they are coming from. It really is an interesting topic, and I hope that the Holy Spirit can continue to guide us as we all seek truth. I pray to be as open as I can when He speaks. God bless you. Also, this is not my full understanding of the subject. There's so much more I could write about and still so much more I'm researching. Take what I say with a grain of salt.
@@me-zp7db I’m the same as you. I took 4months from church to read the bible as it is. And I agree the law still should be followed as I’m obedience to the most high. I’m the Torah, when they had strangers amongst them people who wasn’t Hebrew they YHWH said the stranger is become like Isreal and shouldn’t be treated different. For them to be grafted into Isreal they had to abide by the covenant and keep the law sabbath, circumcised etc. YHWH classed them as Isreal. That’s what grafted him means. I don’t ever believe it’s one set of rules for group of people and another set of rules for another. YHWH doesn’t bring confusion like that. It’s littered through the bible if you love me keep my commands. This is “love” that you keep my commands. Only through Yahushua can we be resurrected and saved like obedience can’t resurrect us. Moses and Abraham are still in Sheol waiting and they kept the law. The millennium reign describes how we will be keeping the law and everyone will be required to do so. The law was given through the Ángels and they do the will of the father so it’s not the law of Moses. It’s gods law. Yahushua said I give you a new commands, love your god and love your neighbour and all the law and prophets hangs on these two commands. ALL the prophets had one consistent message love god return back to his commands and come out of idol worship.
@Chumnley snoop...and you think that you keep all 10 commandments perfectly, every day -- you are lying. The ONLY we can live holy, is by dying to our flesh daily because we have the Holy Spirit in our lives, which could have only happen by being truly born-again!!!
I was raised in a cult that would fall into the more extreme end of Hebrew Roots (saved by grace AND obedience to the Law). After that cult fell apart, I spent the next 20 years either not really pursuing God or attending more and more charismatic churches. For the past year, I've discovered and have been exploring the Hebrew Roots/Messianic churches. I've come to this conclusion: We are saved by grace alone through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). All scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, so we may be equipped for good work (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Meaning there are things we can learn from the Torah and the Law about how to conduct ourselves, but we are not required to follow the Law to the letter. As example, Leviticus 19:32 says we are to stand when someone with grey hair enters the room; we do not have to follow that exact command, but honoring and respecting the elderly (showing love to one another) is conduct becoming of a follower of Jesus. Each person may have conviction on various things (clean/unclean foods, holidays, tattoos, clothing, etc) and it's our job to honor and respect our brothers and sisters. If the conviction is simply because the person is trying to honor the Lord, and not trying to make it some condition of salvation, that's fine (Romans 14). I am personally convicted to not observe Christmas or Easter, and to keep the Old Testament Feasts. My heart in this conviction is to honor God and to celebrate the way He has said is pleasing to Him and to rejoice in the way that the OT feasts tell of the gospel and remind us of God's sovereignty and plan that was in place from the beginning of the earth. I also, don't fault my friends or family for keeping the holidays I choose to refrain from. It's slowly becoming a more mutually respectful situation where we are learning to honor one another better every year and celebrate our differences. We are learning to recognize that we are doing different things with the same conviction to honor God.
Shalom Gennifer - I like what you wrote, thank you! I think there are many who do not understand the difference between legalism and keeping Our Father's commands. He wrote The 10 Commands Himself, Exodus 31:18 - so they are not negotiable.About honouring and respecting where others are at, i.e. concerning unclean foods, tattoos, holidays, etc., what does The Father say about these various things in His instructions to us? Indeed, we do need to be kind, however I’m sure you agree we also need to be equipped for that Holy Spirit moment for truth to prevail and all the answers are in The Scriptures. May those divine appointments be made concerning those we love! When the subject of The Sabbath and keeping it set apart or eating pork or other “unclean animals”, often people will say, “that’s a Jewish thing“ or “that doesn’t apply to us - that’s Old Testament - it’s been done away with”, etc. None of which is Truth! Sabbath - established in Genesis 2:2 For the good of humankind! Unclean and Clean animals - (some for food and some not food!) Genesis Ch 7 & Lev Ch.11. For the good of humankind! Aside from the benefits, surely to obey G-d’s commands just because we love Him and want to please Him should be the main thing. (Interesting how many people would rather not give up bacon than please Him😆). Hebrews 11:6 says “Without faith (inherent trust and confidence) it is impossible to please Him”. Faith includes obeying Him because we trust and have confidence in Him and in His instructions. The Scriptures clearly teach that the instructions which apply to Israel also apply to the gentiles who believe in The G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I am grateful and today pray a blessing for Israel and the Jewish people who show all mankind that it is possible to eat clean foods and a joy to keep The Sabbath set apart!
@@Luke12vs48 thank you for your kind and well thought out words. I believe that obedience to Yah is very important; but, I'm not sure that there is a blanket statement of what things everyone must do to be obedient. Certainly following the Ten Commandments, certainly conducting oneself morally, certainly loving others as oneself. I'm not sure if the issue of clean/unclean foods is a blanket requirement for all believers. Romans 14 takes the stand that each person will conduct themselves in the manner they believe will honor the Lord and we are not to pass judgements on those we disagree with. I regret ever suggesting to a friend or family member that they are dishonoring Yah by not following certain rules, and I hope they can forgive me and walk in freedom from any bondage my words may have created. Yah has asked ME to keep the sabbath in certain ways that may not look the same as how you keep it. Yah has asked me to abstain from certain foods for a period (things not required by dietary law) because He is walking me through a season; it would be wrong of me to expect others to follow these rules too. I think that if someone is reading the scriptures and asking Holy Spirit for revelation and seeking to obey Yah, THAT is the most important part. Old and new testament tell us that circumcision of the heart is more important than following the Law. I'm glad to hear that you are being obedient to what Yah is asking YOU to do in YOUR life.
Wholly agree with you Gennifer! These are the exact same conclusions, convictions, and beliefs I have grown to believe and follow. For me, the "Hebrew Roots" of our faith means reconnecting to what used to be to part of the early believers daily lives - the things they knew from their upbringing as Jewish people who became Christians. The 7 Feasts of the Lord are the most important thing that should be taught to every believer, to understand the fulness of Messiah's mission, and sadly they are sidelined for the most part. We are Saved by Grace - and that statement finds so much more meaning when connecting it back to all the teachings in the Old Testament.
Great point Jennifer. I have also dealt with varying extreme views in Hebrew Roots like I did in general Christianity. The one thing I differ with in my conclusion is the potential danger of having convictions compared/contrasted with following our Creator’s Instructions. Should my convictions take precedent if they are contrary to an instruction in the Bible? I feel my convictions should be in alignment. If they do not, perhaps I should weight both. But in the end, at least the no doubt/clear instructions should take precedent. I personally am concerned with some family members I have that have fallen into supporting this whole LGBQT++ movement. They feel the Bible is fine with this due to “love” etc. This is one reason I fall into the side that believes His Instructions are righteous, and I should align my thinking with His, as much as we can understand today, being thousands of years removed from the cultural context and an unchanging God. I feel at peace with the concept of salvation by God’s grace, and the obedience that I try to walk out because I trust He knows what is best. Just like I did with my fleshly father when he was alive and I was his child. Shalom Jennifer.
How beautifully put. I actually came out of the pagan feasts Xmas easter while still attending Sunday church. Each year especially Xmas, I just hated it. Such a peace entered my heart when I stopped it it was a few tears later that I understood what day my father would like me to rest sabbath. The Messiah said, nit was made for man.. A day to rest from all our labours, holy set apart. I discovered how filthy some animals were and that Father created good things to eat. No, keeping His feasts days, his teachings, do not bring us salvation l, only by his grace through our faith, however father loves our obedience
I've been studying the Hebrew roots movement. I have to say I haven't come to any understandings yet, although, what do we do with the scripture in Matt 5? Jesus said he didn't came to destroy the law but to fulfil it. I looked up the Greek word for destroy: dissolve, demolish, overthrow. These are a few meanings. So He didn't come to demolish, resolve or overthrow the law. I looked up fulfil in vs 17, here are a few meanins: to fill up, to cause to abound, to consummate, to carry through to the end. Now are marriage goes are not legitimate until we consummate are marriage. Jesus said not one not or tittle will pass away from the law until heaven and earth pass away. So are we standing in a consummated law thst has now been written on our hearts and in our minds? Yes! But I don't know what to do with this yet! Because Jesus also fulfils ALL if the biblical Feast Days. He has fulfilled: Passover, First Fruits, Unleavened Bread, & Pentecost. He still has not fulfilled; the Feast of Trumpets, Feast Of Atonement or Sukkot/ Feast of Tabernacle. These are end time fulfillment. So where do we go from here? Also, we are Israel. We have been grafted in. There is only one people ISRAEL. So I'm trying to put this all together.
I have another comment. The New Covenant wasn't signified until after Jesus Death, burial and resurrection. That may be why he followed the law because they were still under the Old Testament Law. That is why Jesus was able to tell the their on the cross that he would be in paradise without the plan of salvation: Acts 2:38, REPENT (die out our old body of sin to be like Jesus when he died o the cross), and be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins (the bible says when we are baptized we are buried with him) and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(then and only then are you reborn into the body of Christ. We have to be like him in his death, burial and resurrection through our death/repentance, burial/baptism, resurrection/Holy Ghost gives us resurrection power. Of course there are scriptures for all of this. Test Acts 2:38.
@@michaelharrington75 if you read it with an opened mind He said he did not come to get rid of the law. He said not one jot or title will pass from the law...also says those who teach the Commandments and keeps them well be the greatest in the Kingdom but those who don't will be least.. where the law was weak through the flesh.... the Priesthood...Yahshua come to fulfill that Priesthood as our high priest.... to say there is no law is to say there is no sin. For the law points out sin. And if no law why did Yahshua die for our sins? There would be no sin to die for.
@@jillsidock6589 I never said there was no Law, or that the law had passed. Jesus fulfilled the law by living a perfect and pleasing life to the Father, and becoming a perfect sacrifice for the sins of all those who believe on Him. The Bible is not meant to be read "with an open mind". It's meant to be rightly divided. Romans 6:14 "For sin shall have no dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." Galatians 5:4 "You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace." Galatians 2:21 "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly" John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Romans 10:14 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." James 2:10 "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it." Galatians 3:10 "For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, 'Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.' " Romans 3:19-28 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." When the disciples ask Jesus "What shall we do, that we might do the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent." (John 6:28-29)
Thank you. I'm going to encourage some of our friends, including their children, who've struggled through two years of high school Logic, to listen to you. There is value in listening carefully, and thoughtfully. Thank you for trying to speak in kindness while you disagree with teachings that can be harmful. Our family was blessed to travel to Israel and to learn from a guide who continues to minister there. I believe that understanding our Jewish heritage, studying the Old Testament, and learning about the feasts and Holy Days can enrich our understanding of the fulfillment through our Savior. As you clearly explain, understanding grace more fully, along with our heritage should NOT return us into fear of breaking the thousands of individual laws. That burden, when taken on fully, is more than most sensitive souls can bear. I can NOT earn my way to God - period. Hallelujah! He is Risen, indeed.
You say (starting at 23:31) that the Old Testament Law was never ever meant to be this universal thing that everybody would be obeying. I really appreciate the way you are addressing this, brother, but that statement is contrary to the Scripture. We are told, in Isaiah and Micah, that the Torah will go forth from Zion and all nations will be taught it and be judged according to it. We also see that (in Zechariah) all nations will be called to Jerusalem to keep the feast of tabernacles in the Messianic age. The Spirit of God even moves Solomon to tell us that this (fearing God and keeping /guarding His commandments) is the whole duty of, not just the Jews and Israel, but of all mankind. You are correct that it (the Torah) was not given to the Gentiles. It was given to Israel. They were to be a light to the nations. It did apply to Gentiles who were sojourning with Israel though. Believers in Jesus Christ are brought into the commonwealth of Israel (as you know) and receive the commission to be a light to the nations. To show them (the nations) the heart and ways of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To make disciples and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This light we display to the nations is Messiah Jesus. A great shadow of this concept of a Gentile engrafted into Israel, who guards/loves God’s commandments and is a light, is Elijah. He was not a Jew, or a native born Israelite, but was tôwshâb, to-shawb'; or תֹּשָׁב tôshâb; (1 Kings 17:1), from H3427; a dweller but not outlandish [H5237]; especially (as distinguished from a native citizen [active participle of H3427] and a temporary inmate [H1616] or mere lodger [H3885]) resident alien:-foreigner, inhabitant, sojourner, stranger. Also, the book of the Torah was lost in the temple. When it was found, restoration of God’s laws ensued. Could it be that the Torah is lost in the living temple that is the church? Just a thought, brother. Again, I appreciate this video. I’m not trying to put you or what you are presenting down by my comment. I am just providing food for thought that is meant to be a blessing. There is obviously a lot to say about this topic and a firm but loving dialogue is necessary. Thank you. Blessings in Jesus Christ to you. Abide in Him!
Isaiah 66 says that when He returns He is gonna slay many that eat swine's flesh...I kinda think if the law was "done away with" He wouldn't be so filled with wrath because of it. All those old testament abominations that were supposedly done away with are judged pretty harshly in prophecy that has not yet been fulfilled. I am assured of my salvation, but I'm not gonna use that as license to sin and commit abominations.
thank you for your reply your heart is awesome i had been caught in Hebrew roots movement and I really got caught up and believing that I can obey the whole law which is actually impossible and it threw away my attention from the deity of Christ it lessens his value. let me remind you John 8: 58 Jesus talked about before Abraham came to be I AM meaning that he is the father or one with him in the same so he alone has the authority and look here brother please John 13: if Christ is truly the Messiah who has the authority John 13 34 through 35 Jesus gives a command look it says A Renewed command I give to you that you love one another as I have loved you that you also love one another by this shall all know that you are my taught ones if you have love one for another the Hebrew Roots movement drew me away from Christ into my own righteousness which was never the point of the law the law was given to reveal a sinfull nature in men there is no law for one who lives in the spirit not according to the flesh just food for thought broham!!!!
Too many good things that came out of my Hebrew roots Journey though I definitely grew in knowledge of the scriptures I grew in my awareness of Prophecy it brought me to a greater understanding of my need for Christ and just exactly who he was that everything in the scriptures spoke about
There is some truth in it: God's original plan was for the Holy Spirit to guide us so that we followed the Law intuitively by the wisdom of God. This was the plan in the Garden. When man sinned, his flesh became corrupt, and thus the Holy Spirit couldn't work in him fully. This shall be restored with the New Jerusalem.
@@nathanyoung4914 Yes, I don't agree with Hebrew Roots for this reason. I believe that the movement in of its self is moving further and further away from biblical truth because they aren't grounded in messiah and they can show pride in themselves, it's not everyone who is Hebrew roots but what I see from within the movement itself. We must keep the commandments while keeping out faith grounded in Yeshua.
Thank you for this video. I have a tendency to feel “not enough” or unworthy of what Jesus has done for me. That makes me tend to lean more towards a works based means of salvation. movements like this are dangerous because people like me could be so easily sucked in. Thank you for your ministry!
Jesus words: Mat 19:17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
@@edgaralejos8989 LOL, you used a proof text for the commandments nailed to the cross, obsolete, ready to vanish. 1. Verse 17 JESUS in a humorous way addmitted to being GOD the way to life is to keep the commandments. Fact one the 613 laws of Torah with the 10 included mad no promise of salvation. Only prolonged stay in GOD's land, blessing and protection. Obviously it is CHRIST 2 commandments and 1048 additional commands and instructions. Proof being the young man saying he has kept Torah in verse 20. Verse 21 JESUS gives a command that is new and not in the Torah being give up all you have and follow HIM. Verse 22 the young man findes the price of following CHRIST onto life is too high. Here is the clencher "with men this is impossible but for GOD all things are possible"In summary JESUS is GOD, the commandments are the New covenant lawsand only JESUS could keep Torah perfect and afford us deliverance from it's conviction and death. ✝❤
@@rickhuntling7338 please!!!, read some Torah, this is only ONE verse, there is many about sharing and caring for your neighbor. I can se the promise fullfilled in this man. Jesus saying something new.... HE IS THE TORAH, he came to confirm Deuteronomy 15:4-8 New King James Version 4 except when there may be no poor among you; for the Lord will greatly bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you to possess as an inheritance- 5 only if you carefully obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe with care all these commandments which I command you today. 6 For the Lord your God will bless you just as He promised you; you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow; you shall reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over you. Generosity to the Poor 7 “If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video Mike. I would not discourage people from keeping Gods commandments out of their love for Him and their desire to be obedient to Him. The following New Testament verses Matt.5:17-19, Matt.19:17, John 14:15, John 15:10, Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, Rom. 7:7, Rom. 7:12-14, Rom. 8:7, 1 Tim. 3:16-17, Heb. 8:10, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 3:4, 1 John 3:22-24, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John 6, Rev. 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22:14 and others seem to indicate that we should be following Gods commandments. We don't keep the commandments for salvation, but out of obedience, and do so with great joy. I am not sure how we can define what sin is without His commandments.
We live by God's holy commandments (all 10 of them) because we can do so ONLY by the power of Jesus Christ living in our lives by being indwelt with the Holy Spirit. We don't need to observe holy days and feast. God NEVER told us to this in the New Testament. Jesus is the final and ONLY sacrifice we need.
His Feasts are prophetic and 3 of them are yet to be fulfilled… FEASTS: Yom Tr’uah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot (tabernacles) “If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.” Zechariah 14:18 NIV
I came to Torah because in my 39 years on this earth I saw, heard and felt nothing but BAD FRUIT coming from the various denominations I sampled. Sure everybody says well thats not all churches.... yes it is! They find out dirt on you they shrink back and the nose goes straight up in the air because they cant associate with people who used to be drunks and drug addicts and whores and felons and on and on. I had made up my mind I was never going to subject myself or my kids to that ever again. Finally one day, after a friend of mine begged me for a year to visit her family, I walked through the doors and INSTANT peace and love came over me. Then I had the privilege of partaking in Sukkot with them. I knew that this was my family. I belonged here with these people. Then we watched The Way documentary and I fell to pieces. So to the anti torah people, dont tell me how wrong I am and your reasons why, because I came from the ash heap of the modern day church and NOW I am living in a season of miracles that I have never witnessed before. He has heaped and continues to heap blessing upon blessing on me and my family. Another thing: nobody forced me to come to Torah. My heart had to be prepared in a way that only Elohim can do. As is with everybody. That is the reason prodding and shaming and pointing fingers and judging never works. Have a blessed day. What I believe is Yeshua came and paid the penalty for my transgressions but .... it is a JOY to me to follow the 10 commandments, celebrate the feast days to honor the Creator, and wear my tzit zit. If you dont choose to do it then dont. We dont have to answer for each others lives in the end. Only the Most High. 🙌🏽
@@TheTeganOsmondChannel Can you provide the link to this channel you mentioned and what do you mean this is way bigger issue than whether you believe/practice Torah or not?
so you migrated from a carnal church to legalism. paul said in galations 5:4 you who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from christ, you have fallen from grace. In other words you have denied christ. Read also galatians 5:6 the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. I have been to many churchs in the 46 years as a christian and I have never seen the bad behaviour you describe. I know it happens, but it also happens in every single organization on earth, including the blasphemous movement you have joined. here's pauls curse on your false leaders . galatians 5:12 as for those agitaters , I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves. Also remember proverbs 14:12 there is a way that seems right to a man. but it ends in death. People all over the world say they felt peace and love going to certain events that are not even christian. feelings are not to be the indicator of what is true or false.
Quote: I came to Torah because in my 39 years on this earth I saw, heard and felt nothing but BAD FRUIT coming from the various denominations I sampled. Claims the churches all have bad fruit [sinful deeds] and does not want to admit she herself is a sinner, instead she pretends to be righteous and without sin, very typical of the pride of the hebrew rooters. Quote: Sure everybody says well thats not all churches.... yes it is! They find out dirt on you they shrink back and the nose goes straight up in the air because they cant associate with people who used to be drunks and drug addicts and whores and felons and on and on. Becky claims it's all churches and offers no proof, just says we must trust what she is saying. Becky then contradicts herself, first she claimed all Christians do is sin and produce bad fruit, then she says Christians don't associate with drunkards and drug addicts i.e. sinners. So which is it? Christians are all vile sinners with bad fruits? or Christians avoid being involved with drunkards and drug addicts? And Becky ends by boasting about how she wears tzit zit, and keeps the feast days [she doesn't keep the feast days, they can't be kept with offering animal sacrifices and grain sacrifices] Becky is a Judaizer who has bragged about how holy she thinks she is, when she has sinned all through her post including bearing false witness!
I’ve been watching 119 for years and although they do a good job going through the scriptures I whole heartily agree that they “trap” people into believing what they teach about obeying the law. I think one good point that defeats their teaching is that Abraham was called righteousness without the law and uncircumcised. The law came 400 years later. If it was possible before the law to be called righteous by only having faith in what God said then today it is possible.
Abraham was called righteous because he both believed & obeyed YHVH. His obedience was the exercising of his faith, & we don't keep the Mosaic law, but the 10 Commandments should be obeyed because they teach us how to love both YHVH & others, the 2 great Commandments that Y'shua spoke of. We are part of the Kingdom of YHVH, & no Kingdom can run smoothly without laws! We are not saved by keeping the law, we are only saved by grace through faith in Y'shua. Keeping his law is sanctification & how we love & worship Him in response to all He has done for us. Y'shua said, "I have not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it", & "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled". Y'shua obeyed the 10 Commandments as well as the Sabbath. Scripture never changed the Sabbath, the Catholic Church did when they mixed Christianity w/ paganism, & they say that their authority is higher than both Scripture & YHVH. This was prophesied in Daniel concerning the Antichrist who would seek to change laws & times! The Catholic Church took out the 2nd Commandment about graven images so they could worship their idols, & split the 10th commandment into two, & changed the Sabbath to Sunday bc that's when pagans worshiped, & they also popularized their pagan holidays including Christmas & Easter which YHVH hates! We need to love what YHVH loves & hate what He hates!
@@giovanni545 “I think”….I’m sorry but that isn’t what a very careful reading of the scriptures show. We are told why the law came to be. There are two reasons listed in the scriptures. The first says it was added because of sin. The second says it was there like a school master, to tutor the Jews until the Messiah came. Once the Messiah came and taught them, there is now no need of a school master. They and we, by extension, have graduated.
Restore the Kosher Gospel That is all about Jesus bringing in the new! With a new priest there needs to be a new law. The law brought nothing to perfection so Jesus had to come. How are you not seeing that in Hebrews? It is clear as day. Read the whole thing in context. All of Hebrews is about entering into the sabbath rest of Jesus, how the new covenant is better, etc.
@Bubert Rose Hebrews 7 does not speak about the whole Torah in general, but it's only talking about the old testament sacrificial system. The old testament sacrificial law made nothing perfect, and that is why Yahshuwa came to die for us. I also understand that the Torah cannot make us perfect, it only tells us what sin is and makes us set apart. And just so you know, Yahshuwa's rest does not replace the Sabbath day, but Yahshuwa's rest is simply a spiritual rest. The Sabbath day is a whole day of rest to worship Yahweh. And yes, the New covenant is way better than the old because the new one cleans your sins, well the old one only covers them.
Okay so sin is transgression of the law, you don't want someone to take the most clear and literal meaning of that verse. I'm supposed to think sin is transgression of righteousness? Or sin is transgression of Christ's law? Where does it say "the Law" isn't "Christ's Law"? Are you sure they are different things and if so what scripture states that plainly?
Sanctifiedby Truth The law of Christ is the law that Jesus gave. It even goes on to state what that law is in 1Jhn 3.... 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 ¶ And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. That’s what the law of Christ is. Sin is transgressing this law. Gal 6; 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. What did Jesus say?..... Matt 7: 12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Jhn 15: 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. That’s what 1Jhn 3 is speaking about.... 14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. 15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 16 ¶ Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? Hope that helps. God bless
Evan U and who defines HOW we love? Satan has his own way of defining how to love. Are we to assume that Jesus has a new way of teaching His Father’s ways? He said the words I speak are not mine. He was speaking the Father’s message as prophesied in Deuteronomy 18:15-19. That prophecy is about Jesus. He is the prophet like Moses that the Father promised. The Father has not changed. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus brought the Father’s message and demonstrated it. He also put an end to the curse of the Law for those who are contrite/penitent. He redeemed us from the curse of the Law not the blessings of obeying it. Deuteronomy 28 has two lists. You want to be redeemed from the promises and blessings of obeying your Heavenly Father’s ways? Do not misunderstand Jesus. He never said what your interpretation teaches. Careful careful careful.
Actually that doesn't help and here's why: 1. Jesus didn't give us a "different" law or different commandments. To say that He did is to say He is a sinner! If Jesus added too or took away from Gods commandments then that would make Him a sinner according to Dueturonomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." He never said that the commandments He gave us were a "new" LAW. IF He did than the Jewish people of his day would have considered him a false prophet based on Deuteronomy 13:1-5. What many Christians say today about Jesus "changing the law" or "bringing a new law" is the reason why many Jewish people won't accept Christ as their Messiah. We have unknowingly been a factor in their rejection of the Messiah. This is a link to a video where a Jewish man who believes is Christ explains this. th-cam.com/video/ULN5ymIxtVI/w-d-xo.html Deuteronomy 13:1-5 "If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’-which you have not known-‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.God said don't except anyone even if they perform miracles but come and change his law. The commandments Jesus gave us were reiterations of the Commandments given in the law. To say anything different would make Him a false prophet or sinner. 2. Jesus plainly said "My doctrine is not Mine but His who sent Me" in John 7:16 Proverbs 4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. Doctrine is the Greek word "didache" (Strong's G1322) and means teaching, instructions. Law is the Hebrew word "Towrah" (Strong's H3384) and means instructions, directions, precepts, and statues. Jesus said His teachings and instructions were NOT His own. They were God's teachings and instructions, and God has said that He will not alter or change the thing that has gone out of His mouth. He gives us good doctrine(teachings) and tells us not to forsake His law(instructions). 3. Jesus told His disciples to keep the law in Matthew 23. He commanded them to "observe" whatever was read from Moses' Seat. Only the law was read from Moses' Seat. Then in the Great Commission He told them to make disciples of every nation and teach THEM to OBSERVE EVERYTHING He commanded them. If Jesus commanded them to observe the law than they were to teach others to observe the law. Acts 15 is addressing if Gentiles need to keep the law to be saved, which of course they do not. 4. Loving God and loving others is defined in the law. If your spouse gives you a list of everything they like and want you to do for them to show them love, is it loving to ignore their list and make up your own list instead? If your spouse loves chocolate cake but for their birthday you make them Carrot cake, is that really loving them the way they would want? Or course not! God gave us a list of things that He wants us to do to show love for Him and love for others. That list IS the law, and when we do it in faith and in love for God and others we are doing His Will. It isn't to get anything for ourselves, it isn't for salvation, it's simply because we love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. We don't need to guess what to do, God gave us clear instructions for what to do. And Christ came down and perfectly lived out the law in faith and love as our example. He showed us how to keep the law with the proper motivation of the heart.
Sanctifiedby Truth Yeah. God gave a new covenant with new commandments through Jesus. Heb 7: 11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Heb 8: 6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 ¶ For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13 ¶ In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. It had vanished. God destroyed the temple. If He wanted you to keep the old covenant He wouldn’t have destroyed the means by which you must keep it.
I searched to see who could tell me about Hebrew Roots because one of my long time friends has been led to join this group. She insists that the Bible I have (NASB RYRIES) (and I do search multiple translations) has been changed to the point of being wrong….as well as ESV and KJV and most others- that scripture was mistranslated and the Hebrew words mean different things than what the Bible says. Since I only know a smattering of Hebrew words and their meanings, I did not have enough knowledge to refute everything she said. I am so thankful you had a video about it. Granted , you published it three years ago, but I was thankful you logically refuted some of the confusing things my friend told me. And I know God is not the author of confusion. Thank you for some of your answers to the questions in the chat. That was very helpful.
Hopefully, all of us will continually grow in knowledge and wisdom. I'm always correcting people in my head, rarely does Father prompt me to correct anymore, depending on my relationship with the person. But I always pray that all of us in the Body of Christ would more accurately understand His Word, and praying specifically for the person I believe is wrong. I'm always finding myself with little errors and misunderstandings of the text. Did you know, for example, that 2000 years ago hair was considered part of the genitalia, hence head coverings for women.
You said “we’re not israel and we should not act like we are” umm, is everyone aware that the multitude that came out of Egypt was mixed? How about all the “strangers and sojourner” that were to keep the laws if they lived with the Israelites and believed in God? .. 1 John 2:4-6 sums it up brilliantly “The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God is truly made perfect. We know that we are in Him by this- 6 whoever claims to abide in Him must walk just as He walked” ... If Jesus is God, and God/Jesus gave the commandments at Sinai and even before that.. why would there be some “doing away” or making requirements void? There is no scripture that claims to make the law void for believers in Jesus.. in fact, the scripture clearly says that if you don’t keep them, and you claim to know God, then your a liar.. Jesus commandments are the same as Gods commandments because they are one. If they aren’t one, then that makes Jesus a false prophet according to Deuteronomy 13. Read Tim Heggs articles concerning these things from “Torah resource institute “ a very solid scholar trained in the biblical languages and graduated seminary .
The church is not Israel but grafted into Jesus like the natural branches. The strangers and sojourners weren't forced to convert but were under Israel's civil laws, which gave them rights.
Bible History Science that’s not what the text says, it says a “mixed multitude” came out of Egypt..they were given the same laws between the natural born and the sojourner .. it does not say “these are suggested laws for gentiles” the Hebrew implies and God commands that if you are a believer and you want to follow God, these are the rules you are to live by.. we see the same exact thing with King David’s great grandmother Ruth, Abraham kept Gods commandments, lot baked unleavened bread, Noah made sacrifices Cain and able made sacrifices..none of these people were Jewish.. none of those are from the tribe of Judah or from any of the other tribes. You pointed out “Civil” laws..lol I see this error all the time, so tell me, is keeping the sabbath civil, ceremonial, or moral? It is all 3 ..and almost every single commandment is at least 2 out of 3 in that made up unbiblical division of Gods commandments. It is much easier to read the scripture for what it says as opposed to having to break out commentary and dance around it.
2 Regular Guys:Biblical Research I agree that Gentiles could be partakers of Israel and the promises along with the blessings in the old covenant by taking part of the Old Covenant. This is why so many tried to proselytize the Gentiles. All Jews knew this and had Gentiles in their synagogue (not in the temple because that was forbidden until they were converted) teaching them of the ways and the process of conversion. So if the same process occurs for the new covenant, then why is it a mystery that Gentiles could partake in it?... Eph 3: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Why would the Jews get jealous of Gentiles coming in of the same process that they had been promoting (proselytizing) was still in effect?..... Rom 11: 11 ¶ I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Deu 32: 21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. Please explain. Thanks.
Evan U actually there is no jealousy from Jews from pagan Christianity who don't keep Torah. Why would they be jealous when they (Christians) reject Torah?
Evan U very good questions and I can give u at least one example. If you look at the Maccabean revolt , one of the things that happened after the revolt and taking back the temple was an effort to preserve an identity of the Jewish Israeli people’s, there was forced circumcision throughout the land to maintain an identity and this became such a huge issue that instead of following the scriptures and letting God handle things , they sought to take matters into their own hands. We see this all the way up and beyond the first century and even today there is a push to keep this identity ..but what is interesting is that God specifically said that he would preserve a remnant , like Paul said how not everyone who claims to be Jewish or yahudine is truly yahudine .. nationalistic identity does not grant salvation , that relies solely on faith in God. So the crux and answer to these question is fear. Weather be by losing identity or some other form.
Given the recent issue with the Covington catholic students can you please do a video on the black Hebrew Israelites soon, I think it’s important that Christians are aware of this group.
Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: (Ruddy means reddish as in blush) Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as SNOW snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, (Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. The world hates white Christians especially it seems today.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBThLOL a racist pastor, not many of those around. Thats a good thing. Arguing the color of skin didn't fare well for Mariam. She became white as snow in a bad way. Btw, Be thee warned.
Brother it would be awesome if you posted the Bible verses and other sources you quote in the description of your videos. Many times I’m driving or otherwise hand tied and can’t take notes. And while I do often rewatch your videos, it would be an additional blessing if you did. I love your work, heart and devotion to truth and humility. Even when I disagree with a stance you take, I take pleasure in calling you my brother!
During the time of Moses, anyone who wanted to follow God were allowed to follow Him. Those who left Egypt saw the works of God and left with Israel and went into the dessert with them. God also said that the same Law is to be for the Israelites and the sojourners. So, I disagree with the idea that it was only for Israel.
The law was given to moses and the Israelites but we all ere guilty of it no man or woman can enter into heaven by the law it is the shed blood of christ that saves us not the working of the law we caint keep them all and when you break one you've broken all of them so that's why we needed a savior to take away our sins and nailed them to the cross it is finished the lord said.
@Child of The Covenant you probably have broken one today you have to keep everyone of them but no man can and it will do you no good because your works are not worthy like jesus blood only he saves ,not us.
Exo 12:49 - One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Num 15:16 - One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you. Mat 10:6 - But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 15:24 - But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jas 2:17 - Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone Jas 2:20 - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Jas 2:26 - For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also
Strangers and sojourners were under the civil laws, which conferred rights on them as if they were Israelites. If they had been under the whole law, that would mean they had converted and would not be strangers and sojourners but Israelites, making nonsense of this verse. It would also mean Israel forced people to convert for simply passing thru their lands, which is pure nonsense.
Chris Koehn What type of works was James referring to?..... Ja 2: 14 ¶ What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? It seems like it’s the same works that Jesus taught and the ones He would judge the nations by. (Matt 25:31-46) Don’t get the required works mixed up between the two covenants. Remember, the new covenant is not like the old covenant. The old covenant has vanished away. Take care
@@biblehistoryscience3530 Could a stranger, alien, sojourner, convert and become a full Israelite? Would that be an example of someone that really loved Yahweh? Also were do you see it say civil law. It says ONE law for both the native and the stranger. Shalom/Peace
Michael Deo , define “full Israelite”. Regarding whether a convert “really loved Yahweh” or not, well that’s at the heart of the commandments and was synonymous with keeping the law of Moses. A person loved God by doing works, by eating this and not that, and touching this but not that. But if you would not, then you were cutoff from Israel and sometimes executed. But that was under Moses’ Old Covenant. Under Jesus’ New Covenant believers are filled with, sealed and led by the Holy Spirit, and we are to follow the royal law in the spirit instead of hundreds of mosaic laws in the flesh. Whereas the old law said don’t murder or else you will be executed, the new law says don’t hate or else you will be chastened by his Spirit. And it’s the Holy Spirit that works in individuals to will and do God’s wishes, which is why Paul could observed that one person eats what they like, while some weaker brothers kept strict diets (because Jews had done so under the law and some could not fully accept their new liberty in Christ). All of that exemplifies the fact that Hebrew Roots is the same works-salvation legalism that Paul preached against. And Hebrew Roots teachers quote the verses about how a person who loves God keeps his commandments (which they interpret as the law of Moses, even in the New Testament) as a litmus test for distinguishing between those who are saved and not saved. The reason why they contradict themselves by simultaneously claiming it’s not works salvation is because they need that stance so they can interpret the apostles clear rejection of teaching Gentiles to get circumcised and keep the law as legalism. That’s compartmentalized thinking, and one way they manage it is teaching that a person is saved first and then keeps the law, but if someone doesn’t keep the law, it means they weren’t really saved in the first place. Regarding civil laws, do you see that some laws are civil and not sacred and that some things in the law are moral vs ceremonial? I ask because many people in Hebrew Roots never learned this for some reason and so deny it. In fact, you denied this elsewhere when I pointed out that eating pork is not a sin, except for Israelites when they were under the law of Moses, and only then because God put it into the law. But as Paul taught, what goes into the body does not really defile a man but what comes out.
Exodus 12:37 Then the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides children. 12:38 A mixed multitude went up with them also, and flocks and herds-a great deal of livestock. Exodus 12:49 “One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you.”
Are you in Israel? Jeremiah 31:31-34 New International Version (NIV) 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]” declares the Lord. 33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” Old covenant is gone. New covenant replaces it.
@Karen Soo amen! The old covenant was all about what we shall do. The new covenant is all about what God shall do since we are incapable of doing it and the old covenant testified to that.
I am so glad I came across this! I have seen this movement becoming more prominent on women's Christian Instagram. Something I have noticed, and here is just a couple of things: 1) There is a lot of throwing around the accusation of "anti-semitism" if you reject the HBM. I won't say this is MOST people in this movement, but its a popular theme on social media. 2) There is indeed a contradiction in teaching. They say the believe that salvation is based on grace alone, and not by works. But then at the same time, say you have to follow the law or you aren't saved. 3) There is boasting in their works. You can tell a messianic Christian/ Hebrew Roots by their handle or bio, generally something like "Following the narrow way" or lots of talk like "I obey" or "I keep His commandments".
1) This is the first time hearing that. It seems strange to accuse people of "anti-Semitism" while not being Semitic because that term refers to ethnicity only. 2) Judaism teaches that you need to follow laws in order to be saved, whereas HBM is a protestant Christian group that claims that the whole bible is applicable. We believe in salvation based on grace alone. God cannot let us off the hook for our sin based on good works. It would be like telling a judge in court for murder to pardon us because we've donated a lot. We are guilty and God is fully just. However, Jesus paid our sentence in full for us so that we are pardoned without God neglecting his justice. After we are saved through grace by faith we are transformed and have the Holy Spirit who guides us to desire the will of God. If we truly desire to do the will of God, we should make every effort to learn what his perfect will is and not make excuses. Good works do not save us but are evidence that we have been saved and that the Holy Spirit is within us. "If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray to the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you." John 14:15-18 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:17-20 This is how you can be sure that you know Jesus: "My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 3:1-6 3) This is clearly wrong and sinful. Hypocrites exist in every denomination though. Test everything my friend, 1 Thessalonians 5:21. 4) I think the reason that many in the HBM focus on the Torah which is guidelines, instructions, and commandments from God is because it is neglected by many and it is their calling. Hear what Paul writes concerning this: "For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free-and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. For in fact the body is not one member but many. If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. And if they were all one member, where would the body be? But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way." 1 Corinthians 12:12-31 Shalom
Actually, with all due respect to you, what's "heartbreaking" is hearing you say that you are glad to come across this video. Mike is a charlatan, and he's leading people like you astray. May I kindly offer you, and any other supporters of Mike, this challenge: Can you show me any other instance of where something the Scriptures call EVIL (profaning the Sabbath) and an ABOMINATION (eating the flesh of scavengers) are now an acceptable practice for Christians to do? If you can't, that ought to be a clue that Mike is dead wrong, because he is. Romans 6:15 NKJV What then? Shall we sin [transgress the Law] because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
@@sourmilkministries9445 "actually, what's heartbreaking..." so it's not heartbreaking when a grandma can't see her grandkids because her daughter won't let her, due to the fact that they don't see eye to eye on Christmas? Can't say I agree. You seem convinced in your mindset (when you say Mike is dead wrong), and lacking humility/prideful/arrogant (shows me a lack of fruit - the Bible says you will know them by their fruit). I will pass on this conversation.
@@abeautifulmoment2714 Yeah, that's funny. You talk about how the Bible says that we shall know them by their fruit, and then you turn a blind eye to the FACT that Mike teaches people to commit EVIL (profaning the Sabbath), and ABOMINATIONS (eating the flesh of scavengers). But yet, it seems that you have no problem in supposing that someone is "lacking humility/prideful/arrogant", all because they boldly expose charlatans like Mike, exactly as God instructs us to do! "Cry aloud, spare not; Lift up your voice like a trumpet; Tell My people their transgression, And the house of Jacob their sins. (Isaiah 58:1 NKJV)
I’m starting to see this movement everywhere. They stick out like sore thumbs. They seem to come off better than other Christians. They make it very clear they don’t celebrate Christmas, Easter, etc…and curse everyone who does, they make it known they follow all commandments and act sinless. Can’t argue with those people. It seems truly believing and trusting Jesus is no longer enough.
@JJ France What does this say about someone who claims to know Jesus but does not keep the commandments? 1 John 2:3-4 (NIV) We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. How did Jesus tell us to get eternal life in the following verse? Matthew 19:17 (NIV) "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments." Why do you ignore what Jesus taught in favour of man made traditions? Mark 7:9 (NIV) And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!”
@JJ France Matthew 19:17 (NIV) "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS." There's only one set of commandments any of them knew about when Jesus said that. There's no guesswork about it. 1 John 2:3-4 (NIV) We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. In 1 John above, Jesus just got done talking sinning, which is the breaking of God's laws. So the commands he speaks of are the commandments everyone at that time knew about, the only ones. Matthew 7:23 (NKJV) And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ And this verse is crystal clear. If you practice lawlessness, Jesus will reject you. I think you are being disingenuous when you try and be clever and imply there was some other sort of laws! Jesus constantly attacked the temple priests because they broke the laws they demanded everyone else keep, and in fact, Jesus stated that we are to obey those priests, but not do as they do, because they didn't keep the commandments themselves. Over and over and over again we are told to keep the commandments. In fact, Paul instructed us to "search the scriptures" to make certain what we are taught is true, and the ONLY scriptures that existed when He said that was the so called "old testament" (nothing OLD about it). That alone tells us that we can get the truth from it. Peter taught a Eunuch about Jesus from the book of Isaiah, I wonder how many can do that? Also, if you want to refer to the commandments JESUS GAVE, well, read John chapter 1, Jesus IS the God of the old testament who gave the commandments to Moses. This is why Jesus stated that no man has ever seen or talked to God (the Father) because it was in fact, JESUS they talked to, otherwise known as "the word". Jesus is also the One that created everything that was created. So... "Jesus'" commands are the very same ones we read in the scriptures given to Moses. I think your attitude is summed up nicely in Mark... Mark 7:8 (NIV) “You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
@@NeilRoy Can you even remember the last time you sinned? I just want to know is there a certain point in time when sin is so far back in the past that you can't even remember the last time? I probably break at least a one of the ten everyday, when did you learn how to not break them? It seems that no matter how much i try i still mess up. JESUS made it much more offensive because He took the commandment of murder and made it just being angry, then He took adultery and made it to even look at a woman with lust you have broken the commandments. When did you quit looking and getting angry at people?
@@thecommandmentoffaith1755 Oh sure, I have sinned, none of us are perfect. The important thing is that we are trying to obey. It is our motive that God looks at. if we are striving to obey Him, and when we slip up, we hate ourselves for it and we return to Him and ask for His forgiveness than if we really mean it and we are truly sorry, than He says that He will abundantly pardon us. "abundantly" means "abundantly". Also note that in the following scripture that God says that "if you RETURN to him...", one cannot return to Him if you were not with him at one point and time. Check this out... Isaiah 55:7 (NKJV) Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, and He will have mercy on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon. ...the big difference is that you are trying to obey Him and you return to Him and ask for mercy when you slip up. As opposed to someone who doesn't try to obey AT ALL, and doesn't feel they need forgiveness at all when they do slip up. This was one of the points that Jesus raised about the temple priests. They taught the law, and Jesus instructed us to do as they say (so he never had a problem with the law, as some falsely claim), but Jesus told the priests that prostitutes and tax collectors (who were thieves often times) would be in the kingdom before the priests. And the reason He gave was that they believed who He was and they were sorry for what they did and they sought forgiveness from Him while priests broke the law but wouldn't admit to doing it and did not seek forgiveness. So strive to obey, and when you slip up as we all do, return to God, seek mercy and forgiveness from Him and He said that He will abundantly pardon you. The key is that you honestly try to obey, that you try to learn from your mistakes and you recognize the inputs that caused you to sin and then you avoid them and try not to repeat them again. That is what your Bible states. Belief in Jesus is certainly not a license to break God's laws as I already quoted in this thread. Satan believes in God, Satan believes in Jesus, in fact, he has met them personally and knows them better than we do, but is he saved? Not at all, because he is disobedience and refuses to obey God. So who do you follow? Jesus who obeyed God, or Satan who refuses to? Even if you're uncertain, just ponder this... God has never punished anyone for trying to obey Him. But He has put people to death for disobedience. God bless.
JJ France - Yeshua/Jesus elevates the Word, just as He was elevated on the cross. He followed the Law of the Father and lifted it up to the next level. As followers of Yeshua, we should walk as He walked...blameless before the Father... When we fail, Yeshua is there as our example and the Holy Spirit is thee to help us back into God’s Way...through His everlasting Grace and Lovingkindness...🙏🏻
Bob and Eric HAlf Hour Show Jesus is the Word made flesh. Heb 1: 1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; The new covenant was spoken through Jesus. Read what Jesus commanded His apostles. It was given to them to know the secrets of the kingdom. They were commissioned to give His message to the world. God bless
This, as mike mentioned, is an equivocation fallacy. Both the scriptures and Jesus can be a revelation of God, but in different senses. The Bible is not God. Jesus is God. These things are not the same.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 Only Jesus Christ is the way to Heaven and be saved from hell. "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6 Have you believed in your heart that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, was buried, and rose from the grave? You must believe that Jesus is the one who paid for your sins and rose again to be saved from eternal damnation and instead go to heaven "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7
@Moshe Natsarim Jesus is God. God is Eternal meaning no start no end before everything there is God. God made all from nothing Jesus is begotten when the spirit plants the seed inside Mary so they he may be born into a mortal body so that he can come under the law and run the race of life for us he is God but he is also of God. Jesus tells you before Abraham I AM God says us not me John 1:1 is telling you who Jesus is where and when. Then add time has no hold on God you want to trip out there is a chance you could be your own guardian angel you died made it to heaven time is different you can watch yourself be born you can work to fight spiritual battles for yourself while you hear your silly living self ask what has god done for me well now you know probably won't be the case but i like that idea because there is more to your life then you can see bit like heads and tails of a coin we live heads then we die and watch over ourselves tails. Your question is less of a question and more a smashing together of assumptions.
the claim is that is not that the law is not important, but that it pointed to Jesus is the Fulfillment of the law and the expansion of it that is why Jesus can say it is not what goes into you that defiles you but what comes out of you, and the such
But Jesus said I didn't come to abolish the law. He didn't say I'm the fulfillment of the Law and after I go to the cross the law will be done away with.
+Sanctifiedby Truth Your mistaken Sir, in Matthew chapter 5 thatis exactly what Jesus does....and Second, Hebrews 8:13 directly answers your second question :) ....Man, read the entire Bible; its beautiful bro☝
The old covenant (aka agreement) with Israel was made obsolete. If your wife is unfaithful to you you can make your marriage covenant obsolete by divorcing her. And then you can make a new covenant with a new woman, but do the marriage terms change? Is she not supposed to also love you and be faithful to you? Your mixing up what a "covenant is" and what the "terms of the covenant" are. I've read Hebrews several times. The fault with the covenant was with THEM! Hebrews 8:8. They were an adulterous wife, Israel was unfaithful to God so He divorced her, then came and died for her and the world, and now He makes a new covenant with her and the world thru faith in Christ. But the Law is simply the instructions God gave us for how we love Him and love other people.
Sanctifiedby Truth Why did Jesus say that the law in Matt 23:1-4 was a heavy burden grievous to be born? Matt 23: 1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Please answer that question for me. The answer to your question is that the new covenant hadn’t yet begun..... Matt 26: 27 ¶ And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Heb 9: 16 ¶ For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. So Jesus told those who were under the old covenant to keep the old covenant. He privately spoke to His apostles about the new covenant.... Matt 13: 10 ¶ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 ¶ He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. 34 ¶ All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: The message of the kingdom was given to the multitudes by the apostles after they witnessed the resurrection and were given the Holy Spirit who would remind them all things that Jesus taught them.... Jhn 14: 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Matt 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Jesus commanded His Apostles to take His message to the world. Read what Jesus spoke to them in private to know what that message was (sermon on the mount, upper room discourse) I’ll also add that it was prophesied that whoever was faithful in the Old Covenant, would find rest/healing in the new covenant through Jesus. We can look at that aspect if you like. Look forward to hearing your response as to why Jesus has such negative things to say about the law. God bless.
Starting with Abraham’s sacrificing his son as an allegory/example of application of the truth was just brilliant. Especially seeding the idea with your quip about the replacement lamb.
its a misleading comparison. it's just common sense to understand that God's personal command to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac was an example of something that expired once obeyed, but something such as "thou shalt not murder" is eternal and not just used up the first time you feel like murdering (where the second time you can go ahead and murder)
WWJD??? Torah which equals Jesus. He's Jewish, born Jewish and will return as one. He isn't a Christian and never was. He "fulfilled" the law meant He fulfilled all that the Scriptures, prophets writings, stated about Him. Can't have grace workout the law. In order to understand grace you have to have the law. And you think Easter and Christmas is something Jesus would observe?? Lol Okay. All the feast are BIBLICAL and not only for the Jews. I think Christians should be more concerned about all the divorce in church from those who profess to be Christians. The church is so messed up and looks like the world.
Ellie nelson No. Torah pointed to Jesus. He is the realization of those laws. The Passover pointed to Jesus who was slain for us that the angel of death might Passover us. He is our Sabbath rest from the works of the law. He is the first fruits unto God. He tabernacles among us. Jesus said that not one jot can pass from the law until all be fulfilled. Not one until all. That’s all or nothing. He then went on in the same chapter to say that the divorce and remarriage law is done away with and he gave a new commandment concerning it. So if we don’t sacrifice animals and aren’t to put away our wives because of some uncleaness found in her or stone witches, homosexuals, Sabbath breakers and rebellious children, then He must have fulfilled ALL of the law.
He did not do away with the divorce and remarriage commandments. You sir are unlearned and unstable and you are turning Christ into a sinner or false prophet so say He did away with any commandments
Sanctifiedby Truth Matt 5; 31 ¶ It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. Deu 24: 1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. I didn’t see your response until just now. I hope that helps. God bless
I'm only halfway through, but your video is really good. I was in Hebrew roots for 8 years, left last spring. You are doing an amazing job. Thanks for making the video.
You are making a huge mistake. I don't know what part of the Hebrew roots you were in. But the answer is in that All Scripture applies. Yahusha is our Messiah, and Shaul was His chosen to work amongst the nations where the Northern tribes of Yisrael were scattered. Salvation is not found in the church or Christianity. Because it is not Scriptural. Was Yisrael still slaves to Egypt when the Father Yahuah set them free? The church wants you to believe you are saved as a sinner. If that is so, then Yahusha failed in His mission. He said He came to set us free from the bondage of sin and death. We are free from sin, if you want to remain a sinner, then be a christian. But Yahusha can only live in a sinless person, because He CAN NOT dwell with darkness. 1Jn 1:5 And this is the message which we have heard from Him and announce to you, that Elohim is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and are not doing the truth. Grace is not a license to sin, BUT the ability to be free from sin. And this we achieve by the Power of Yahusha in us. Here are the requirements for salvation. Obedience is key to everlasting life: We are not saved by faith alone: Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone. We must have Faith, but on itself is not sufficient. Joh 3:16 “For Elohim so loved the world that He gave His only brought-forth Son, so that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life. We need to believe in His Name, belief in the wrong Name will not do! Joh 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged, but he who does not believe is judged already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only brought-forth Son of Elohim. Works on its own is not sufficient, but we need works: Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead. We can not be saved without obedience, because we receive His Spirit through obedience: Act 5:32 “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Elohim has given to those who obey Him.” Love for Yahuah will instil the obedience which will encompass all required to be saved. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. If we love Him WE WILL OBEY HIS COMMANDS. This will be the cause for us to be saved: Heb 5:9 And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting deliverance to all those obeying Him, So if you truly love Him you will seek the reason to obey rather than seek the reason to disobey His Commands. If you want eternal life? Obey His Commands: Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One - Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
Can you please provide me with additional info, books (extremely biblical ones that uses KJV of the Bible) -- when and how did the light bulb come on for you -- other than the most important reason -- by God opening your eyes.
@@jacobtack2258 You are part of a false cult!! Just stick with the Holy scripture (KJV) JESUS, CHRIST, OUR MESSIAH paid it ALL!! There is no need to fall back into the Galatians 4:8-11 & 21-31 KJV 8. Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. 9. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10. Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. 21. Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 22. For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath any more children than she which hath an husband. 28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Cla Gle - keep reading.... ““Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one [the only God]! You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and mind and with all your soul and with all your strength [your entire being]. These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be [written] on your heart and mind. You shall teach them diligently to your children [impressing God’s precepts on their minds and penetrating their hearts with His truths] and shall speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up. And you shall bind them as a sign on your hand (forearm), and they shall be used as bands (frontals, frontlets) on your forehead. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.” Deuteronomy 6:4-9 AMP And keep reading....🙏🏻
My friend, Yeshua quoted the Torah that is now popular and known as the two greatest commandments. The shema first, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18. Christians want to follow the 10 ("first") commandments yet disregard the other 603( /601), when Yeshua clearly stated the above two that are directed to a Hebrew community. It bothers when someone says they're all for Jesus but not the TaNaK, " You mean the prophecy that foretold of the annointed new king from the line of David?" Then a pause, and "Who's David?", or "Who's Rehoboam?" I will say that following Torah is much easier considering there is no temple to make sacrifices, but to state that Yeshua did so, yet we ourselves ought not to is questionable, a yearly commute to Yerhushalom is mandatory for all Hebrew peoples in the time of the second temple from Ezra Nekhemyah . Matityahu 5:17 clearly states that to do away with the Torah was not His teaching. His death changed nothing in regards to the keeping of Torah, even the disciples follow the sabbath when Yeshua had come off the cross. I love what you're doing and please keep it up, though I myself believe that when the Hebrew Bible says to follow God's commandments through all your generations and again the shema teaches to instruct your young to do so, that YHWH has not and teaches not to ever stop these habits, like remebering to do so three times a day. If so, why would almost all churches celebrate the Eucharist multiple times a day, not knowing that Pesach is a Hebrew holiday meant for "only the Hebrew people?" regarding the mass exodus of a Hebrew group from Egytian lands. Where is the line to pinpoint what a Hebrew and a gentile should and should not do to coincide with God's law. In other wording, how does one khatah or gain baruch ? To be a follower is to be brought into the Hebrew fold, even a Ysraelite can be labeled a goat and not a lamb. Like you said in the Understanding the Torah, you can't cut and paste what you choose from the TaNaK, it is the God of Israel's law, people try as they want, you in yourself(not you personally) can't change this truth. The Hebrew Bible is full of this idea, but all is left but a warning to turn back to God and follow the commandments. This is the general idea of what Yohanan and Yeshua preached.I like to joke and get people to realize it in this way, Yohanan (John) was a baptiser not a Baptist, Yeshua (Jesus ) was a Hebrew not a Christian.
Vito, You said: “I will say that following Torah is much easier considering there is no temple to make sacrifices, but...” According to the Torah, you are not keeping the law without the Temple. Period. And this tradition of “observing” Torah was invented by Pharisees. It comes from the Talmud, which means you’re in an offshoot of Talmudic Judaism and not Christianity. You’d do well to watch this video: th-cam.com/video/tXkkjhtuVi8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for your explaination on John 6:53!! As a recently escaped catholic that just started reading the Bible(at the age of 38 lol!) This has obviously been one of the hard sticking point and you really helped me clear that up! So thank you! God bless yoy and keep up your work. I found your channel last week and it has been a blessing!👍👍🙏🙏
This is the gospel of Jesus Christ (Yeshua haMashiach) according to Moses. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? 1 Passover/Pesach He died as the Passover "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world." We die to our sin and leave our sinful ways. 2 The Feast of Unleavened Bread He was sinless. The Word lived out perfectly in wisdom in a human body. We examine our lives according to His Word and confess our sins and walk in His ways. 3. Feast of Firstfruits He resurrected from the dead. We are raised up from spiritual death to walk in newness of life, following Him to one day experience a complete resurrection. 4. Shavuot/Pentecost Feast of Weeks He sent His Spirit to indwell believing hearts. Our hearts are changed and we are transformed to hear Him and follow His Way. 5. Yom Teruah/ Day of Trumpets He will come again, announced as King. We welcome our King and His kingdom. Until He arrives, the Kingdom of God is within those of us who believe. We anticipate His coming in the 7th millennia and celebrate Sabbath the 7th day. 6. Yom Kippur/ Day of Atonement He judges the world. We who are in Him, part of His body are seen as righteous, by His eternal Word in us. His Spirit sanctifies our Temple. His blood, the Word, has transformed us. His Word washes us with truth. 7. Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles or Booths He tabernacles again on earth, to reign over all in justice and peace. We who love His law will reign with Him.
It's really simple and straight forward. The Law summed up is love God and others. It teaches us how to love and what is right and wrong like don't commit adultery, honor your parents, don't steal, etc. I don't understand why Christians have a hard time accepting this.
We live by the Spirit; We are convicted by the Spirit; We are chastened by the Spirit; We are obedient to the Spirit; We are taught by the Spirit; We are led by the Spirit; We are made righteous through the Spirit; All through the Spirit, by faith in Christ. We do not live by the law; We are not convicted by the law; We are not chastened by the law; We are not obedient to the law; We are not taught by the law; We are not led by the law; We are not made righteous through the law; Through obeying the law, no one has been made righteous before God.
The “Law of Moses” is not from Moses. The Law is from the God of Israel. The Word states that sin is the transgression of the Law of God. Jesus states that “if you love me, keep my commandments.” He also states the following: Luke 6:46 KJV [46] And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? And... Matthew 5:18-19 KJV [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. So, if y’all think you don’t have to obey the Law giver consider your place at the day of judgement. Revelation 22:14-15 KJV [14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Psalm 119:126 KJV [126] It is time for thee, Lord, to work: for they have made void thy law. So if y’all make void the Law, know for certain you’ll not enter His kingdom. Matthew 7:21-23 KJV [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. And who are workers of iniquity? Those who have voided the Law of God. Is your prayers heard? Proverbs 28:9 KJV [9] He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. No! Why? You don’t consider His Law. Consider your ways and repent. We Israelites are the Law givers. So learn the TRUTH. Romans 9:4-5 KJV [4] Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; [5] Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Isaiah 43:1,10 KJV [1] But now thus saith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. [10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. So who are the Israelites? We are the priests of God. We are your teachers.
Question do You do as Jesus commanded ? Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” Matthew 28:20 “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever ……………I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. This is just one ……. Matthew 23:2 “Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:” Matthew 23:3 “All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.” Bless you
Jesus said obey my commandments as I have obeyed my father's commandments again Jesus and the father are one because it's stated in scripture he is the image of the invisible God. Add we have scripture to walk according to the way he walked. That's really hard to mess up.
Yes. Honestly it wasn't done the right way though. Being a baby I didn't have any control over that. Technically you're supposed to be circumcised on the 8th day. More than likely I was circumcised on a 3rd. But you're not responsible for things that are in your control and if you were, that's what grace is for.
But Paul said that if you're not following the law of God and your circumcise then your circumcision means nothing. You have to be following the law in Christ in order for your circumcision to mean anything.
So sad my understanding is keeping those commandments just how God written them in ur heart. Mind..... Yeshua dead for the curse of the law..not to demolish the law of Truth...if it is gone then we will murder..and not follow the truth...
In other words, the law was not done away with/abolished. The new covenant is the law being written on our hearts & minds and not on stone, paper, papyrus etc that can be destroyed much easier than our memory and spirit.
@@jred7. Why waste Mike's time with a Judaizer hack playing Jew? JESUS calls them "the synagogue of satan". This scurge on the body of CHRIST have been amongst us since JESUS and the cross. Devouring wolves dressed in sheeps' clothing. That would be his pretend orthodox beard, ramekin and I'm guessing tassels. A screen name "unlearn" is a dead give away of whom the antichrist serves.
@@rickhuntling7338 I bet you can´t give a single example of how they add and substract from the Word of God? In fact, they advocate against that. And what´s with the lame satanic Catholic terminology: Judaizing?
@@patricksachs3655 How much do you wish to wager? Hebrew Roots teach Torah dietary laws are still in effect. Would you agree? Deut. 12:10-16 says after Isreal crosses the Jordan Isreal may eat anything their hearts lust for clean or unclean. Acts 10:11-16 GOD tells Peter to kill and eat. Acts 11:3 two witnesses testified Peter did eat Gentile food. Gentiles may eat all things but not animals strangled, sacrificed to idols or the blood, Acts 21:25. Mat. 6:25, 31 JESUS commands us not to give mind to food drink or dress. Rom.14 teaches us not to judge others for day others regard or food they eat. Col. 2:16-23 says the same. 1st Tim. 4:1-4 that all GOD's creation is good to eat in thanksgiving and the people that teach to abstain get their doctrines from seducing spirits and demons. Patrick is this your doctrine? Loudaizein is Koine Greek term that means judaizer. Gal. 2:14.
@Ναζωραῖος Christians did not worship on Sunday before Constantine. The Sunday worshippers were worshipping pagan gods, and the sun god s one of them. . Even the Cahtolic Church now admits that, so you need to be updated on the new lines to spew. The followers of Christ observed the biblical seventh day sabbath until they were persecuted after Constantine, sabbath worship was criminalized and those that insisted were labeled as "judaizers" Plus, your nonbiblical theology of the trite "God abolished His own Law" is just more nonsense from you.
Mike, I follow you because your sermons tend to line up with my beliefs. I consider myself to be a "Torah Observant Christian," which I guess would fall into what many would call "Hebrew Roots." I find your sermons to be mostly sound doctrine. I'm not really familiar with these different forms of "Hebrew Roots" that you've explained. I just know that the Holy Spirit has convicted me to follow the Old Testament because it is beautiful, and Yeshua followed it. I'll never be perfect, of course, but I feel the need to strive to be as Yeshua was, at least to the best of my ability. I actually follow 119 Ministries as well, along with Philia Ministries, who also get a ton of flack for being Torah Observant. I just want you to know that many of us are convicted to follow the Law of Moses out of obedience, not for our Salvation, but because we've found salvation. Does that make sense? I am not saved by works, but by Grace. My works come from a place of appreciation for the Grace I've been given. I hope that makes sense.
There is no such thing as Torah observant christian. There is no such thing as saved by grace, implying that you are a saved sinner. Grace is not a license to sin, BUT Grace is the power of Yahusha Messiah in us TO OVERCOME SIN. Yisrael means to overcome with Elohim. Did Yahusha ever say go and sin some more? NO! He said, go and sin no more. Our Father does not hear the sinner, but hears the one who does His desire: Joh 9:31 “And we know that Elohim does not hear sinners. But if anyone fears Elohim and does His desire, He hears him. Those christians who think they are saved by grace and live in sin, is going th get a BIG surprise on judgement day. Our Father says to those NOT listening and obeying His Torah: Pro 28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination. Without the Torah, you sin because sin is lawlessness: 1Jn 3:4 Everyone doing sin also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And these are the words our Messiah has for the sinner/ lawless one: Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness! Mike doesn't like the theology of being forced to believe something. Well then He is in the wrong business. That is exactly what Yahuah the Father does, Deu 11:26 See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: Deu 11:27 the blessing, when you obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I command you today; Deu 11:28 and the curse, if you do not obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim, but turn aside from the way which I command you today, to go after other mighty ones which you have not known. The Father would ask Mike the following question: Rom 9:20 But who are you, O man, to talk back to Elohim? Shall that which is formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Rom 9:21 Does not the potter have authority over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for value and another not for value? If you truly love Yahusha Messiah, your love for Him will be evidenced in your obedience to Him. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. HalleluYAH!!!
Yesss. Similar here. I’m 6th or so generation mormon, coming out of Mormonism because on my journey to seek Christ I was convicted to learn more about Torah and Christianity (I grew up thinking I was Christian bc that is the Mormon claim) but now I’m learning differently. Again. All because I asked Jesus how He wanted ME to worship Him. His reply: “keep the feasts” That’s actually been really hard. Quite a shift in thinking and “knowledge”. But I’m so grateful for it.
@@randihill3915 Wonderful news. But if you truly love our Messiah Yahusha, He says: Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. See that? If you love Him YOU SHALL GUARD HIS COMMANDS! Now when you look at the commands. He says not to bring His Name to naught: Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught. This is crucial, His Name is Sacred and it is the key to knowledge. SO if you want to understand Him, Speak His Holy name, and NO other name. Exo 23:13 “And in all that I have said to you take heed. And make no mention of the name of other mighty ones, let it not be heard from your mouth. His Name is Yahuah, and HE does not share: Isa 42:8 “I am יהוה, that is My Name, and My esteem I do not give to another, nor My praise to idols. Great that you keep the Scriptural feasts. I hope you Keep the Weekly Sabbath as well. Read Lev 23, when the Father Yahusha speaks of His Appointed times. He Start of with the 7th day weekly Sabbath. The He continues with the High Sabbaths(Scriptural feasts). HalleluYAH!!!
@@randihill3915 Just some added information on His Sacred Name. There is only one Name by which we can be saved. Act 4:12 “And there is no deliverance in anyone else, for there is no other Name under the heaven given among men by which we need to be saved.” Our Messiah Yahusha came in the Father’s Name: Joh 5:43 “I have come in My Father’s Name …” Because He and the Father is ONE! Joh 10:30 “I and My Father are one.” The reason why many people don’t find the Messiah in the Tanakh(OT), is because our Messiah has the same name as the Father: Isa 47:4 Our Redeemer, יהוה of hosts is His Name, the Set-apart One of Yisra’ěl. And when our Redeemer Yahuah(יהוה) came to earth, HE came to save. And His Name became “Yahuah Saves”, which is Yahusha(יהושע) in Hebrew. Mat 1:21 “And she shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name יהושע for He shall save His people from their sins.” And that is why we say HalleluYAH!!! When we praise the Father and Son. Because there is only one Name! Act 2:21 ‘And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.’
I like the responses. To be fair, I understand it's difficult to wrap our minds around this idea that we should obey the commandments and teach others to do so. For so long many of us have been taught that Yeshua fulfilling the law somehow meant He abolished it. some have rightly pointed out that the majority of Christians keep 90% of the law, anyway. The more I studied, the less sense it made as to why the Sabbath, dietary instructions, and a few other issues caused such resistance. Then as we began attending a couple of Sabbath fellowships, I loved the relaxed tone set by the fact that no one seemed to be in a hurry to leave after service but hung around for the fellowship which typically included lunch/dinner. It seems this is how it should be on a day set aside to honor our Creator, which, by the way, is the reason given for the Sabbath in Genesis and subsequent passages. I can't help thinking that the traditions of men set up shortly after the apostles' deaths were a tool of Satan to deceive millions through all these centuries. I'm coming to realize that the fullness of the Gentiles mentioned in Romans 11 refers not to numbers but to increased understanding of the original faith.
I support the Hebrew roots. First of all, read Matthew 5;19, where it says that you will be called least if you don't do the commandment and don't teach it. Teaching it will get you called great in the kingdom of heaven. You don't have to believe in the Hebrew roots to get saved, but you should study the Torah to understand who God is and to see how the scriptures lead up to the salvation of Yeshua. Paul's writings are important since God spake through him to write that down. You should not be under the law, but you should study it to understand the history of our faith. Just so you know, I am aware of the book of Galatians. I hope you understand this message. Jesus is our savior! Matthew 5;19 (King James Version) "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
There is much spiritual knowledge to be gained by deeply contemplating the Law. Don't just follow the Law, ask yourself why each commandment is there in the first place. Think of the spiritual principles behind each law.
Go kill a spotless blood 🩸 lamb 🐑 sacrifice every time you sin then. Oh and keep ALL the other 600 laws too. Then you’ll be saved. Or trust in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. You can’t have both ways. You can’t have your cake 🎂 and eat it 🍰 and eat it 🍰. .. ok 👍
And was Jesus referring to the 10 commandments? He summed them up as Love the Lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul, and love one another as yourself. “Paul settled the issue of the 10 Commandments in several places, among them Romans 10:4 that 'Christ is the end of the law to all who believe' and 13:8-10 when he lists several of the 10 Commandments in v9, saying before in v8 and after in v10, "to love your neighbor as yourself fulfills the law". His point as James' was in 2:10 where he said if you live by the OT law and break 1 law, you are guilty of all 613 laws. Therefore each said, as Jesus stated in Mark 12:29-31, that loving the Father will all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and loving our neighbor as ourself, are the top commands, for all the rest hang upon those 2.
Primal Way said: “'For the native Israelite and the stranger that sojourns with you '” Interpreting that to mean that Gentiles sojourning in Israel kept the law of Moses and so Gentile believers should as well is not true because that would mean they forced conversions, but they did not.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 wild branches grafted in, gather nourishment from the root. The root is Israel (keepers of the Oracle's of God) . The Torah is the constitution of God kingdom.
Primal Way I see the Ten Commandments as the “Constitution” of the original nation of Israel, and the Torah was their law. But the church was only formed after that law was fulfilled and a New Covenant law established in Christ’s blood, and Jesus taught that you cannot mix the two covenants without disastrous results. Hebrew Roots pours new wine into old wineskins, and the result is a fall from grace. And if God had intended for the church to keep the law of Moses, he would not have made that impossible by destroying the Temple in the first church generation and preventing it being rebuilt. God ended the argument with that move. And this new religion of “observing” Torah was a reaction/rebellion against what God did. Observing Torah is not in the Torah but the Talmud, and Israelite did not observe the law when they were in Babylonian exile. God was merely pleased with those who did not worship foreign gods until their captivity ended.
Hosea 4 :6. " my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because thou Hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee , thou shall be no priest to me; seeing thou has forgotten thy law of thy God, I will also forget thy children"
Jeremiah 31:31-34 New International Version (NIV) 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]” declares the Lord. 33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.” Old covenant is gone. New covenant replaces it.
The weekly Sabbath is not ceremonial. It was instituted before the fall. And it is the center of the ten commandments. It's the decalogue. Not the nine o' logue. My Lord said, "I am Lord of the Sabbath, and I made it for mankind." Meditate on what this is saying. He did not disregard it. But emphasized its right purpose. Intended for mankind (anthropos).
The true believer keeps all of God's 10 commandments. Jesus Christ is the Sabbath rest of the believer Hebrews 4. We rest in His completed work on the cross. Christians follow the Spirit of the Law not the letter of the Law. Honor and keep holy our Savior our Sabbath. Love God and love your neighbor. If one does not love God he will not love his neighbor,and if you do not love your neighbor who you can see how can we love God whom we have never seen. All 10 commandments are honored by the Law of Christ. God is Love,God is the Sabbath, God is our Salvation. God is our all in all, let us rest in Him and not the shadow.
@@Crow44195 in what way do you keep the 10 by not doing it? What is the spirit of do not lie? So should we obey by not doing the commandments? Is there some verse about whoa to those who call evil good and good evil?
Second time watching this series. Thanks Mike for so much clarity. I also just discovered your two part, how to read/apply the Old Testament, which goes well and is helpful with this. Oh and “do you have an unsettled feeling” tactic is used by hyper-charismatics and WoF also...
Michael Schroeder Did God command men in the old covenant to stone or did He command to leave that up to Jesus? You specifically cited a passage that states the word of the Lord will last forever. You seemed to be implying that we keep every word ever given by God. Of course that would lead to many contradictions as it clearly states in the new covenant that things are different. Divorce and remarriage Eye for an eye law. Stoning laws. Sacrificial laws Ceremonial laws. Priesthood. And on and on. Jesus said that not one jot can pass from the law until all be fulfilled. If one jot has passed then all of the laws have been fulfilled. Have any of the laws passed?
@@evanu6579 it's called putting things into context. Nowhere when Jesus spoke did He abolish or change anything, and His disciples did not teach that anywhere in the New Testament we have. However, there is no Temple, and no longer any priesthood, yet the Law still stands. You cannot tell anyone to repent and not sin if you do not have a standard by which to judge by. If you think that it's changed, then God has changed that which He judged Israel by and allowing the rest of the world to do as it please. According to your logic, you can sin anyhow simply because you claim the standard has changed. The standard has not changed, the authority and place have! You cannot pick and choose from the standard, simply because if you could, then the standard is subjective according to perspective and circumstances. The statement, "I can't help it I was born gay!" Would be entirely lawful as a defense if that was the actual case. So is the Sabbath still on the seventh day? I don't know why that would have changed! Only those that put their faith in Jesus now are able to rest in the very thing God had done on the 7th day, we commemorate that because of what Jesus did. We don't have to provide that on our own any longer with a man as priest to provide that in which we prove unwillingly to comply.
Michael Schroeder You said that there is no record of Jesus or His disciples changing or abolishing any of the laws. Matt 5: 31 ¶ It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. Deu 24: 1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. Matt 5: 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Exo 21: 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, 24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Matt 5: 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Deu 23: 5 Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee. 6 Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever. Heb 7: 11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 2Cor 3: 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 7 ¶ But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 12 ¶ Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: Acts 15: 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Eph 2: 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; Col 2: 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Rom 2: 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Col 2: 11 ¶ In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 1Cor 7: 18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. Gal 4: 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain 20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you. 21 ¶ Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? Gal 5: 1 ¶ Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Rom 7: 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. And on and on. It’s hard to miss. The thing is, you don’t keep the law. Even the laws you could keep, you don’t. Do you have a handrail on the roof of your house? Do you stone those whom you were commanded to? (I’m sure there’s enough of you to set up a judicial system to carry out those laws). Do you keep a lamb in your house for Passover and put it’s blood on your doorposts? Do you make pilgrimages to Jerusalem? Abraham made sacrifices before the Levitical priesthood was set up. Do you make sacrifices? Gal 3: 10 ¶ For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Deu 27: 26 ¶ Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. The law was meant to bring guilt and damnation to those who were under it. It shows your need for mercy. It caused sin and death. Christians follow the Spirit, not the letter. The Spirit guides into all righteousness. It’s called bearing fruit.
It is called THE WAY. Yahusha commanded us to obey the Torah. Matthew 23:1-3; and we also see Apostle Paul also keeping and teaching Torah. You have to remember there was no New Testament when our Savior walked on the earth. The SCRIPTURES (Old Testament) were the WORD they taught. Shalom and praying for blindness to be removed from those who call upon the Messiah for His Holy Spirit to fill you and cause you to keep His statutes and walk in the ways of Messiah. Ezekiel 36:26-27. Bless you! (Matthew 5 says it all!)
Dena, Jesus told Jews under the law to keep the law, but he was preparing them for when he would fulfill the old and start the New Covenant. But Jewish leaders rejected him and persecuted his apostles who taught that the law had been fulfilled so that nobody had to keep the law of Moses any longer. And that’s the reason why several apostles were killed.
One other point of evidence to share, Matthew 23:1-3 Messiah reveals how those teachers will teach Torah (Moses), so Jesus instructed his disciples to obey this, but He clarifies “don’t do what they DO because they do not obey Torah.” This again is why he called them hypocrites. There was no New Testament when He came. The scriptures He taught were the Tanakh or “Old Testament”. 300 years later did we have the compiled NT. Paul taught Tanakh. This is what He knew once He encountered Messiah. The Talmudic /Rabbinic traditions he let go of, thank goodness!
@@dena3902, I’ve heard that argument from Hebrew Roots teacher, but when the apostles assembled in Jerusalem to consider what the Pharisees proposed, it was to get circumcised and keep the law of Moses. Had the Pharisees suggested they keep traditions that Jesus had already condemned, the apostles would not have bothered holding a council meeting for that, would they? And the reason why Jesus said to follow what the Pharisees say (in Matthew 23:1-3) is because they sat in Moses seat. He was referring to the fact that they were reading the Law and Prophets, and that was what the people were to obey. Hebrew Roots teachers think that’s a slam-dunk because Jesus said to obey the Torah, and he was speaking BEFORE he’d died to fulfill the law of Moses. He was speaking as a man under the law to other men under the law. Lastly, the books of the New Testament were completed by the middle of the first century. They were only officially compiled into a canon a couple centuries later. The gospels and epistles were circulating around the churches hundreds of years before the canon was sealed, and they instructed the early church to not keep the Torah anymore. In Acts 15, the apostles agreed that the instruction in Matthew 23 would not apply to the Gentiles, and if you read Romans and Hebrew, it’s clear that there was no difference between Jew and Greek anymore because Jesus had fulfilled the law.
Yes, ACTS 15 is a very important place for us to get understanding. They did convene over much dispute about circumcision and Keeping the Law of Moses (of Yah). Of course we understand that the circumcision of the flesh was no longer needed, because as prophesied we became circumcised in our hearts upon the arrival of Messiah. Even before He was crucified, this circumcision of the flesh was no longer necessary. The message of repentance came forth from John the Baptizer to be prepared to repent and receive the Messiah and to SHEMA Him (hear and obey). Acts 15 they determined they were not going to police the new converts on their keeping of Torah as they were coming out of paganism, but to focus on teaching them the Torah of Yah which would help them release their habits of pagan rituals, 4 things they focused on in Acts 15 which were: abstain from idols, fornication, strangled things, and blood. These are all part of Torah. Then they remarked, it is good enough to focus on these things for now, as they will assemble each Sabbath to learn the rest. verse 21: 21 For from the earliest times, Moshe has had in every city those who proclaim him, with his words being read in the synagogues every Shabbat.” Now perhaps where the big gap is would be understanding TORAH. What exactly are we saying when we say Torah. We are saying the laws of Yah which have been in place from Adam forward. They were finally engraved IN STONE by the Hand of Yah for Moses to teach His Set Apart people (Israel). Circumcision and Levitical laws are no longer in play. This is why Paul encouraged us to RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD (The Tanakh or Old Testatment) Because some of the Old Testatment or Tanahkh is no longer necessary. How can anyone say that the 10 commandments are no longer necessary? Are you now allowed to have idols? Commit adultery? Lie? Steal? Ignore the Name or take the Name of Yah in vain? I mean what kind of a Believer in Messiah would EVER want to do any of those things? And Jesus taught in Matthew 5 explicitly the completion of keeping those laws. They are not only OUTWARD KEEPING but INWARD KEEPING in the heart itself. If you even look at a woman to lust after her, you broke it. So a circumcised heart filled with the Set Apart (Holy) Spirit empowers you from the love of the Father through His Son, to honor and keep this commandment with no problem. You honor and obey out of LOVE. Now when Jesus answered what the greatest command was, he not only gave 1, but TWO. Because the 10 are broken into 2 categories. Love God and Love others. The first 4 are LOVE GOD commands. The last 6 are LOVE OTHERS commands. He quoted Deuteronomy chapter 6. He taught so much TORAH and said FOLLOW ME. How can anyone walk in Messiah's ways and FOLLOW HIM, TAKE UP HIS CROSS and DENY ONESELF if they ignore or abolish the very LAWS Jesus taught? It is beyond incomprehensible. Shalom.
@@dena3902, I’ve never heard a person in Hebrew Roots that said circumcision wasn’t necessary, or that is wasn’t necessary before Jesus died and fulfilled the law, but then again there is a diversity of teachings within the movement, so there’s that. Anyway, I have heard many times that the apostles only told the Gentiles this small list as a starter and they’d pick up the rest in synagogues. But this chapter says the apostles started out not agreeing the with Pharisees, then arguments were made against the Pharisee’s position, someone pointed out that they had never taught Gentiles to keep the law, then instead echoing what the Pharisees said (that Gentiles needed to get circumcised and keep the law), the apostles wrote these few rules from the Noahide law, then the Gentiles celebrated because of their decision. And in Acts 21 where this decision is repeated, the apostles repeated they have never told Gentiles to follow Moses (which means to get circumcised and keep the law). AND that was said years later under withering persecution of the Pharisees for not teaching law keeping to believers. If the apostles had written to the Gentiles that they must keep hundreds of new burdensome laws on pain of death, get circumcised, and to pay a new tax, the Pharisees would have celebrated instead of the Gentiles. But the Gentiles celebrated their decision and the Pharisees got angry. And if they had taught the Gentiles to keep Moses, it would not be recorded years later in Acts 21 that they had never taught Gentiles to keep the law but instead keep those few Noahide laws, and the conflict about keeping or not keep the law would not then be at a boiling-point with the Pharisees, but that’s exactly what we see in Acts 21. So the reason they gave Gentiles these few Noahide rules was BECAUSE the Pharisees were reading the law every week and preaching that Gentiles should keep it. Giving these rules was pushing back against the Pharisees, it was giving the Gentiles other rules to follow that were not nearly as burdensome as the law of Moses was. The Torah has not been around since Adam. While everyone agrees that God does not change, and most believe that there has been a progressive revelation of God since the Beginning, Galatians 3:19 says the law was ADDED because of transgressions until the seed (Jesus) should come. We can find shadows of the sabbath and blood sacrifices and tithing and clean animals starting in Genesis, but those things were not the law given at Sinai. The law was a tool meant to keep these Israelite tribes away from the sins of Gentiles just long enough for the Messiah to be born and institute a New Covenant that defeats the power of sin. And now that old law is good for instruction in righteous living, and it remains a powerful reminder of what Jesus did and will do, and it’s a matter of tradition among the remnant of Israel. You said: “Circumcision and Levitical laws are no longer in play.” I’m sorry but that’s not in the Torah. You either keep the whole law and perfectly, or you’re under a death penalty. You said: “How can anyone say that the 10 commandments are no longer necessary? Are you now allowed to have idols? Commit adultery? Lie? Steal?” That’s a straw man argument that Paul put to rest thousands of years ago when he answered a rhetorical question about whether we should sin so grace can abound. God forbid! Grace in Jesus Christ is not a license to sin, as Hebrew Roots teachers so often accuse (just like the Pharisees who attacked Paul). You need to understand that God set down MORAL and CELEMONIAL rules. Eating pork was only a ceremonial abomination, but murder has always been and will always be evil.
I John 3:4 says what? The Law is still in effect. I would advise you to check out the commentary in the Restoration Scriptures. I don't reject Paul or the Messiah. The Messiah said he did not "come to abolish" and Paul, in Thessalonians, warns us about the man of lawlessness.
Daniel Colonari 1Jhn 3:4 is about the law of Christ which is the law of the new covenant. Read all the way to the end of the chapter. The last 4 verses come straight out and say what commandments we are to keep in the new covenant. The law has been abolished for those who are in Christ. If you e received the fulfillment, then you’re free from the law. If you haven’t, then you have to keep every jot and tittle. 2Cor 3: 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 7 ¶ But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 12 ¶ Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 1Tim 1: 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; Is the law for you or has it been fulfilled in you through a circumcised heart?
Ok that is some people's favorite verse that Jesus did not come abolish the law. What law did he not come to abolish? He came to fulfill what was written of him. What was written of him?He came to fulfill the old covenant. Then you ask what does fulfill mean? His father gave him a task to do what the law says. He did to the letter. Jesus told us the law and the prophets were until John. Yet people say the law won't pass till heaven and earth does. Jesus told us it wouldn't pass till he fulfilled it. So he how does it stand if he fulfilled it?
@@danielcolonari No way. If it was a renewed covenant you would be sacrifices of animals for atonement of sins. Jere 31:31 says a different , not like the one he gave their fathers. There nothing renewed about it. Now before this he renewed several times in the old covenant trying to get them to come and leave the pagan worship.
I’ve been attending a Messianic congregation for 18 years now. I’ve learned so many things that have made the lights go on in passages of Scripture that made no sense to me for the longest time beforehand. I don’t do Christmas and Easter anymore, I observe the Biblical holidays, but I don’t bully people about it. I’m not afraid to say I don’t celebrate Christmas and Easter anymore and I’m happy to tell them why, but want they want to do with that information is up to them. I don’t believe obeying commandments gets one into the Kingdom. I believe that outward actions give evidence of transformation within. Sure, there are self-righteous scolds in the HRM, but there are self-righteous scolds in the churches too. I believe there’s a counterfeit religious spirit at work throughout the body today. As for the dietary thing? Hey, if you find it “liberating” to eat mice, garden slugs and roaches, knock yourself out but please don’t invite me over to dinner!😆
@@NeilRoy If we go with the typical Pastor or Rabbi- they would sooner disagree with King Solomon- the wisest man/king of his time- before agreeing with that scripture. I made up my mind who I will listen to. 🎶🕊✨👑
@@sinistransgressionofthetor5449 This is exactly why I don't listen to "pastor's" or "rabbi's", but I only listen to God's word. Men often stick with tradition over and above God's word.
_8 As I live, says the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became food to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;_ _9 Therefore, O you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;_ _10 Thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be food for them._ _11 For thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search for my sheep, and seek them out._ -Eziekiel 34:8-11
I don’t understand how, if God said these were his laws and they were for all, forever, how did that get changed? If Yeshua, Jesus, said that not a single jot or tittle of the law would pass away until ALL was finished, how did it get removed? I understand that Yeshua kept the law and if we are to walk the way he walked, why would we not keep the law also? Those are only a few of my comments, Mr. Winger. As James said, show us your faith WITHOUT works and I’ll show my faith (the fruit in my life) by my works, or by keeping my Father’s commands.
It about being saved, not how many laws you can keep. Jesus's blood is what saves. Therefore we are not under that covenant to keep it. We are under the new covenant of Christ where he shed his blood for many.
@@shellyblanchard5788 I understand the church's position, but so many statements made by Yeshúa himself are ignored. He said that if we loved him, we would keep his commandments and he said that he spoke the words of his Father, who gave us the commandments. He also told his disciples and others to DO what was spoken from Moses' seat, but not to do what the Priests did. Why? Because the Word of God was preached from Moses' seat whereas the Priests lived their own traditions. My salvation does come through Yeshúa, but he has asked us to love him and to follow him and since he followed the law, I will as well.
@@Cuernavacachica02 God in Jere 31:31 said he would make new covenant, not like the one he gave to their fathers. In other words it wouldn't have the dietary laws and restrictions it did in the old covenant.
The book of matthew was not the new covenant of Christ, they were still under the MOSAIC law. The new covenant wasn't until his ressurection when after ascended.
@@shellyblanchard5788 Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. - Matthew 7:21 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew7:21&version=NIV What is the will of God, brother? We read it in the Tenach. There are many things that we cannot keep now because there is no temple and/or there are other circumstances that impede it, but there are many that we can keep and that we should to show the Father and the Son that we love them.
"And if you are Messiah’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise." Walk as he walked. He walked in obedience, trusting in the righteousness of the Father and keeping his instructions. He is the Identity that all believers take on. If Messiah is your identity, why are you calling yourself a Gentile? Shalom/Peace
You if not being a Jew, but a Gentile convert; would not have been allowed past the Ezrat ha- nashim (outer Court yard of the Temple), because Gentiles are not part of the OT covenant. Non Levite Jews could go to the Azarah ( inner Court yard)
@@Crow44195 The Messiah broke down the wall of separation but it appears some people prefer it up. Abraham was a Hebrew, he kept Yahweh's instructions. Genesis 26:4, I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, 5 because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.” Yes, Justification is only through the Messiah because scriptures is clear ALL have sinned. By Grace through Faith we are saved. Abraham proves that by Faith great works are done as does the book of Hebrews. Without Works ones Faith is Dead. Salvation should fill the believer with the thankfulness to want to do everything Yahweh has instructed of us. Are his ways not Holy Righteous and Good? Do we not have "Faith" in him? It was never Yahweh's intention for Gentiles to be block from him, but that all men should turn to him. It is men that set up barriers to keep others out. They created rules and traditions that were not Biblical. Shalom/Peace
@@michaeldeo5068 Yes faith without works is dead. Those works for the believer flow from the fruits of the Spirit Galatians 5:22-23 love,joy,peace, patience,kindness,goodness, faithfulness,gentleness,self control. Then defined by the Law of Christ which is simply Love, not the Torah.
I really like your videos. I would disagree that we are not Israel though. There are quite a few things Jesus says that would preclude the inclusion of those that are not Israel in His mission. Taking those ( verses that say He has come only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel) along with His declaration that He instituted the New Covenant, and looking at what the New Covenant is and who it is for, indicates that New Covenant Israelites.
The reason that you may not think it applies to you is because you don’t see yourself as part of Israel. We are grafted in. Yeshua lived by the law. Should we not live as he lived? Which of the 10 Commandments do you, as a Christian, believe it is OK to disobey? Stealing? Murder? Adultery? Romans 9-11.
@@AlgarielMaldonado And the commandments existed before Sinai... "And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every CLEAN beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are NOT CLEAN by two, the male and his female." ~ Genesis 7:1-2
I’m so impressed with most of my Hebrew people responses. What a delight to see how many of us left Egypt and how we are constantly testing our faith. Always thankful that through Christianity, I found my first love in Yeshuah, but also thankful about understanding who he is through the Torah.
@JJ France - You precluded your response with, "I think..." Maybe consider quoting Scripture as did Albert Chicken rather than "I think," and you may be taken seriously. Also your final statement, "...fear of what daddy will do if he finds out." don't forget that "The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom." (Pro 9:10)
Defender Of Truth “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE ”- What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise. Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.” Galatians 3:13, 17-22 NASB
Defender Of Truth “But if you bear the name “Jew” and rely upon the Law and boast in God, You who boast in the Law, through your breaking the Law, do you dishonor God? For “ THE NAME OF GOD IS BLASPHEMED AMONG THE GENTILES BECAUSE OF YOU,” just as it is written.” Romans 2:17, 23-24 NASB
Defender Of Truth “For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.” James 2:10 NASB It’s literally impossible to keep the Torah. People pick and chose which laws they like to keep, and ignore the ones they can’t, which is fine. But when people start to condemn others for not practicing certain laws of the Torah, thats when it becomes heretical and dangerous. Those who believe the Law gives them righteousness nullify the cross. And are in serious danger. You can’t be under the Law and under Grace, you have to pick. Observing parts of the Torah is great. But when a teacher claims that it’s mandatory that’s a different gospel. “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”” Galatians 2:21 NASB
@@AString95 - My friend, you are simply regurgitating the same Scriptures taken out of context that we all learned erroneously in Bible College... Did you notice the number of times Sha'ul said the Law (Torah) is "good?" You even quoted it yourself: Rom_3:31 "Do we then make void the Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we ESTABLISH the Law." I'm not sure how you interpreted that keeping the Torah is a "curse." The Scripture is a reference to Deut 30 whereby YHWH commanded that if Israel guarded the Law, there would be "life and blessings" but if the rejected the Law, there would be "death and curses." THAT is the curse that Yahshua has taken on, giving us a chance to honor His Renewed Covenant. Ask yourself, "what is sin?" "Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the Law: for sin is the transgression of the Law." (1Jn 3:4) How can you be repentant and still continue in transgression of the Law? Also remember, Faith without works (of the Torah) is DEAD...
@ 42:00 Amen! we need that reminder daily. Despite our current theological disagreements, there is absolute agreement there. Thankfully, theological disagreements are temporary conditions that will pass away when we are in His presence.
Gentiles not to keep the law? Leviticus 19:34 The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God. Exodus 12:49 "The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you." Leviticus 24:22 Verse Concepts 'There shall be one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the LORD your God.'" Numbers 9:14 Verse Concepts 'If an alien sojourns among you and observes the Passover to the LORD, according to the statute of the Passover and according to its ordinance, so he shall do; you shall have one statute, both for the alien and for the native of the land.'" Numbers 15:14 Verse Concepts 'If an alien sojourns with you, or one who may be among you throughout your generations, and he wishes to make an offering by fire, as a soothing aroma to the LORD, just as you do so he shall do. Numbers 15:15 Verse Concepts 'As for the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the alien who sojourns with you, a perpetual statute throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the alien be before the LORD. Numbers 15:16 Verse Concepts 'There is to be one law and one ordinance for you and for the alien who sojourns with you.'" Numbers 15:29 Verse Concepts 'You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them. Deuteronomy 1:16 Verse Concepts "Then I charged your judges at that time, saying, 'Hear the cases between your fellow countrymen, and judge righteously between a man and his fellow countryman, or the alien who is with him. Deuteronomy 24:14 Verse Concepts "You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns. Leviticus 18:26 Verse Concepts 'But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you Exodus 12:19 Verse Concepts 'Seven days there shall be no leaven found in your houses; for whoever eats what is leavened, that person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is an alien or a native of the land. Exodus 20:10 Verse Concepts but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. Deuteronomy 5:14 Verse Concepts but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant or your ox or your donkey or any of your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you, so that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. Leviticus 16:29 Verse Concepts "This shall be a permanent statute for you: in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble your souls and not do any work, whether the native, or the alien who sojourns among you; Leviticus 17:8 Verse Concepts "Then you shall say to them, 'Any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice, Leviticus 17:10 Verse Concepts 'And any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. Leviticus 22:18 "Speak to Aaron and to his sons and to all the sons of Israel and say to them, 'Any man of the house of Israel or of the aliens in Israel who presents his offering, whether it is any of their votive or any of their freewill offerings, which they present to the LORD for a burnt offering-- Leviticus 17:13 Verse Concepts "So when any man from the sons of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, in hunting catches a beast or a bird which may be eaten, he shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth. Leviticus 24:16 Verse Concepts 'Moreover, the one who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. The alien as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death. Numbers 15:26 'So all the congregation of the sons of Israel will be forgiven, with the alien who sojourns among them, for it happened to all the people through error. Numbers 35:15 Verse Concepts 'These six cities shall be for refuge for the sons of Israel, and for the alien and for the sojourner among them; that anyone who kills a person unintentionally may flee there. Joshua 20:9 Verse Concepts These were the appointed cities for all the sons of Israel and for the stranger who sojourns among them, that whoever kills any person unintentionally may flee there, and not die by the hand of the avenger of blood until he stands before the congregation. Numbers 19:10 Verse Concepts 'The one who gathers the ashes of the heifer shall wash his clothes and be unclean until evening; and it shall be a perpetual statute to the sons of Israel and to the alien who sojourns among them.
Yes as an ancient Isrealite you were expected not to associate with people who engage in heathen practices. This is totally non sequitur to anything Mike said.
Acts 15:29, in regards to the Gentile Church, That ye abstain from meats offered to idols. And from blood and from things strangled. And from fornication. From which if you keep yourselves, you will do well. Those were the restrictions put upon the Gentile Church in Acts.
@@wojo9732 Hi Wojo. Absolutely, we WERE sinners, and Christ died to set us free from SIN. What is sin as defined by Scripture? Transgression of the law. See, it doesn't make sense for Christ to die for our sin, just so that we can go on sinning (transgressing the law.) I hope you can see that. If we are truly saved (set free from our sin), then we not longer want to sin (transgress the law.) We want to do what God asks us to do.
@@washedwiththeword So your saying if you sin you're not really saved? The day you first believe you're perfect and any sin after is not washed in the blood of CHRIST? Have you ever heard of sanctification being a life long process? Paul died from the lust of the flesh daily but what you claim he was never truely saved. Is Hebrews 12:5-11 unnecessary, you being perfect set free from sin? The problem with judaizers is they rob the confidence from new believers and drive them away with their works based salvation.
@@rickhuntling7338 No, I didn't say that Rick, I said you no longer want to sin continue to sin, and I would add that as you have the power of the Holy Spirit in you, you are able to overcome sin. When you say, "have you ever heard.." it comes across as derogatory, as if I would not know about sanctification. Of course, being sanctified is a continual process. A process of ceasing to continue in patterns of sin that gets deeper as we become more like Christ as we walk with Him and become more like Him. When you say, "the problem with 'judaizers' is.." it suggests that you think I am a Judaizer. However, that is not the case. In no way or sense am I suggesting that people become Jewish, as if that were even possible, nor am I suggesting that anyone should convert to Judaism. Our salvation is only through Christ. We are saved through faith in Him, but if we stay in our sinful state and there is not change at all, ever, are we really saved? Faith in Jesus will bring sanctification, it will bring change, as James states, "faith without works is dead." (James 2: 26b) You say, "The problem with judaizers is they rob the confidence from new believers and drive them away with their works based salvation." This may be the case, if there were Judaizers going about trying to convert people to Judaism, but that's not really what we are talking about here. New believers can have absolute confidence that they are saved, through faith in Jesus, that He has forgiven them. However, if someone has really experienced salvation, I would wonder why they wouldn't want to obey the God who has cleansed them of all their sin, and given them the gift of salvation. Wouldn't such an amazing, forgiving, merciful and gracious God be worthy of our obedience? When we really grasp the depth of God's love for us, his absolutely incredible act of mercy to forgive all our sins, just based on our trusting in Him - why wouldn't you want to do what he says?
So... the mixed multitude in Moses’s day that were with him weren’t expected to follow the Torah? Okay. In acts 15;21 the expectations from the apostles were not in accordance with the reality that there are those in every city who teach the Torah on sabbath? Oh... saweeet!
Frank, the apostles agreed in Acts 15 that the law of Moses was a burden neither they nor their father’s could bear and it would tempt God to anger to put Gentiles under the law, but because the Pharisees were teaching them to keep the law every week in synagogues, they advised Gentiles to keep the Noahide laws instead. And this ruling is reiterated in Acts 21, and in both chapters the apostles said they had never instructed Gentiles to keep the law.
Bible History Science It is true that no person can be saved by pursuing the Torah alone. Perhaps if you could read verse one with a new mindset? Think on that for about two minutes then re-read verse 21? See, a person has to ignore much bible and jump through hoops to come to an understanding that there is not one Torah for all. Both the native born and the sojourner.
Frank, the fact that sojourners were under the same law as Israelites referred to being under civil laws, so that the lives and property of foreigners were protected as if they were Israelites. Any by the way, that wasn’t the case in many other nations and city-states. One of the reasons that Sodom and the other cities on the plains were infamous was how they abused innocent outsiders. And regarding “observing” Torah, that’s not in the Torah but the Talmud. In fact, God made it impossible for the church to “keep” Torah by destroying the Temple in the first church generation, and it’s clear now that there won’t be another temple until the last church generation, which will be the Antichrist temple. If God had wanted the church to keep Torah, he would not have made that impossible, and the fact that he did is a giant message to the world, I think, to look to the blood of his Son now.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 Amen - Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
The burden they were not able to carry was that of keeping laws so as to be saved. Yeshua was the lamb through whom we are saved and to whom we owe our allegiance and obeisance. If we ignore the fact that he spoke God's word, (the Word made live), are we truly showing our love?
119 didn't manipulate me by putting the idea in my head that something was missing. I thought it first. People like them confirmed that they too thought the same thing.
Same for me, I knew something was wrong a long time before. My church doctrine never seemed to match up with what I was reading 📚 in my bible. But I could never quite put my finger on it. Now I understand 👍 why
Mike winger I thank you for not miss representing the Hebrew roots movements. I’m in the camp that believes As Paul said I knew not sin but by the law, the law shows us our sin
@@henryjordan9453 Maybe I misunderstood your initial comment. I do think that Mike was attacking the style more than the substance of 119 Ministries. I don’t really follow them, but just listening to the clips that Mike was playing, it seemed that Mike was still too much in his anti-WMSCOG frame of mind. Edit: more* (not “me”)
“And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?” So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ” And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”” Luke 10:25-28 NKJV
The christian always make this same mistake, you have to read to verse 40: Mat 22:40 “On these two commands hang all the Torah and the Prophets.” These two laws, of loving the Father and your neighbour, hangs on the two parts of the Torah. The 1st four commands is applicable to the Father Yahuah and Son Yahusha. And the last 6 commands applies to your neighbour. And there you have it. You haver to obey the Torah of Moses. Heb 10:28 Anyone who has disregarded the Torah of Mosheh dies without compassion on the witness of two or three witnesses.
@@jacobtack2258 I agree with you wholeheartedly brother. Yahusha taught Torah because attached to the Torah is the same promise of "do this and you will live". And we're told we can do it, and Yah doesn't lie. 🙂
I am so relieved to have found this discussion on Hebrew roots. I was in it for a few weeks, about 6 yrs ago, and I had so much confusion. It is growing in SA. I am learning a lot from this videos, for correct interpretation of the word regarding us being saved gentiles.
What was the confusion you had in Hebrew roots? I'm not a part of them but I do think we should keep the law and not live in sin. There is no middle ground.
misunderstanding of the old testament will take you believe you are a gentile, which dont care about the covenant and Israel. Read what Paul say about it: Ephesians 2:11-16 New King James Version Brought Near by His Blood 11 Therefore remember that you, ONCE Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of ISRAEL and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. Christ Our Peace 14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. No if you follow Jesus you are not considered a gentile (away of the pact) anymore, in his blood we have access to the covenant Luke 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. And my friend, the only NEW covenant I read in scripture is with Israel and Judah, and as we read from Paul, you are not a gentile but Israel, then this covenant concerns you Jeremiah 31:31-34 New King James Version A New Covenant 31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
Old Testament vs. New Testament stuff aside, I just want to ask very simple questions. If we it’s okay to eat whatever food we want, why did Peter say himself that he does not eat unclean food to Jesus when he had his vision? And why are so many (if not all) of the food called unclean in the Bible even scientifically proven to be unhealthy to eat? If there are two sets of laws in the Bible, why does it say in the book of Matthew that not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law until all of prophecy is fulfilled? And why are all of the Ten Commandments reiterating even in the New Testament? If God is perfect and just in all He does, why would He need to remove some of His Law for a certain number of believers? Why are we not all held to the same standard of obedience?
This was my thought process too. I reasoned, there is an over whelming number of verses from Genesis to Revelation that calls for us to be holy (set apart) in how we live our lives. We are not to look like the world...in it but not of it. _And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." -Romans 12:2_ It also says one law, and one rule, for the homeborn and stranger who sojourns with you. Hmmm, unless one group of believers has a license to sin? Are they exempt? Clearly God is no respector of persons. 1 John 3:4 calls sin trangressing the law. Ive watched video of pigs eating poop that comes out of other pigs anus. Joel Osteen, Pastor of Americas largest church, once said a pig will eat its own dead young... lookup on TH-cam: _Joel Osteen Pig is Unclean_ Ive even read an article that said a pig started to eat a farmer who fell or something to that effect. They seem like scavengers- garbage disposal. Ive watched a video where worms were crawling out a pigs anus. Parasites. Alot of newer Bibles will say "in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean". But older Bibles, like King James, Geneva Bible, even Wycliffe Bible do not say this...sure seems like it was added. But why? Gods law says not to add nor subtract from it- but to keep his commandments...Dueteronomy 28 clearly states there is blessing or curse depending upon how one chooses obedience or disobedience. This is similar to how the the book of Revelation gives warning to not add nor subtract from it. (Side note: Not to mention, the original 1611 King James had the Apocrypha books in between the New and Old Testament writings...even the Authorized King James Bible was a response to the popularity of the Geneva Bible...supposedly being critical of the Catholic Church)
Very good questions Elizabeth! Paul's letters are a test to the gentile world to see if they will follow Yahweh's law or not. The scriptures says the Gentiles seek after wisdom 1Cor1:22 and it seems this is their problem, just as for the Jews the signs were given and are still here but SOME of them fail to see the Messiah Yahshua. But back to the Gentile world, most of them think the law is foolish and do whatever they can to not see the wisdom in it. Romans8:7,8 sums it up. It is the carnally minded man who despise Yahweh by showing hatred to His law. It's right there in their faces, they read it and still live as if they are pleasing to Almighty Yahweh.
i am glad to see, that when I began to look for Hebrew roots on youtube that most of the comments were favorable. most of the commentators who put out these videos are of the gentile based scripture groups and call themselves Christians, a title that was first used in Antioch. The history that I have pursued in length shows that they wished to separate themselves from their Jewish counterparts as believers in Yahshua in order to avoid persecution. In order to not be identified with the Hebrews, they did away with the keeping of what they considered "Jewish customs" such as the keeping of the Sabbath and the Holy days which became holidays and became pagan days like christmas, easter, good friday, lent, ash wendsday and so on. Yahshua said in Matthew that the Torah would not ever be done away with, so, did he lie or do Christians just ignore scripture that does not fit their doctrine? as the KJV been manipulated? yes, it has. Look at Psalms 46 KJV and carefully count 46 words down and write the word, then, not counting selah which is not part of scripture, count 46 words up from the bottom write it down, and keep in mind that Shakespeare was 46 years old at the time of translation. The book of James. There was not a disciple who went by the name, James, his name was Ya'aqob. It was changed when the king was told that his name James was the translation for Ya'aqob and this allowed the funding for the translation to continue. These facts are not fantasy. So what else has been corrupted?
My roommate has become a monster because she is SO DEEP INTO THE HRM. She treats me like garbage because I believe in the New Covenant. I absolutely believe when Jesus shed His blood on the Cross THE NEW COVENANT BEGAN. now don’t get me wrong, I believe in the MORAL LAW are you still in existence but the Mosaic laws were done away with at the Cross. And the Mosaic laws were for the ISRAELITES AND THIS WAS MADE CLEAR BY GOD HIMSELF! the Lord talks in the Mosaic law “about HIS people” the Israelites!
I'm a former member of the Hebrew Roots Movement , I am Eastern Orthodox now. I personally saw people leave the Messiah completely they gave up the New Testament for Judaism . I kept seeing this happen to people.
Wow Ryan. That's exactly what I have perceived about its danger. The Word of God is clearn and prolific on how the Law of Moses is not for di sciples of Jesus. Yet, they do double speak, and proceed not knowing what they talk about or are affirming. Eventually they eliminate the writings of Paul. And, if they don't stop they reject Jesus too. I just want to urge you about not moving from one form of error into another. All the isms are just that. The faith in Jesus which Paul proclaimed is spiritual. It has no name, corporation, schism, sect, cult, brand or thing. It is a spiritual house made without hands by God. Jesus is the Head of it. The Spirit moves in the midst. It is where two or three are gathered together in Jesus' name, He is there in the midst. I hope you share on your testimony. People are forsaking the Father for another gospel which is not another. Same old thing...How grieving indeed.
Maybe you should try Messianic Me Tv because I just heard you say a few things that aren’t taught in this movement. Please listen more and make your corrections.
I don't think Jesus came to abolish the Law or the Prophets because he said "do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets..." in Matthew ch 5.
I hope this journey you are on opens the door to you realizing that God’s commands are for us not against us, and that you find joy in his Torah through Messiah Yeshua.
Amen brother. I have found drawing closer to Yeshua and understanding his teachings so much better while understanding the Old Testament and the laws. As a follower of our Messiah I don't attempt to follow the laws for legalistic reasons or because we are under the law but because it helps me understand the Our Savior. By obedience or the desire to be obedient is a demonstration of my love to God. The 613 commandments all deal with HOW to Love God, neighbor, and self. The written instructions on how you do that. By no means are my works required, but it's a simple way to have the desire to live a holy life and desire to live a holy life.
We are Israel. Paul says we are engrafted in and Peter echos this by saying we are a holy *nation* and a royal priesthood. This nation is Israel and demonstrates a continuity between the Brit Chadasha and the Messianic Writings (New Covenant)
Daniel Colonari If we are Israel, then why does Paul say that Israel is not rejected in Romans 10? And if we are Israel, then how are Israelites and the nations *both* heirs to the promise (Ephesians 3)? And how is Abraham the father of the uncircumcised and the circumcised (Romans 8)? Israel is circumcised. You nullify the Scriptures. What makes Israel special is that she as a nation is an inheritor of the covenant promises given first to Abraham. Without that, Israel would be just like Edom or some other Abrahamic tribe. But now through Jesus the Abrahamic promise is extended to all nations. This is what Paul writes in Romans 8, and Paul still distinguishes between Israelite and the nations. What God has created according to the apostles is a multi-ethnic body of many nations, as Abraham will become the father of many nations. In Revelation 7:9 all nations worship God together. If we are all Israel then this cannot be fulfilled because there would be only one nation and one tongue worshipping God. And 1 Peter was clearly written to a Jewish audience, though we too are made into the priesthood of God. That chapter-verse isn’t the best to use for the argument that you use it for, given that Peter wrote to a Jewish audience (1 Peter 1:1), and Paul to mixed and Gentile audiences (Ephesians 2, Romans 1-2). We are the “true circumcision” of those not circumcised by hands (as in, circumcised by God, Philippians 3). We put no confidence in our flesh (that is, our national descent and pedigree, which is why Paul then points out that he would be above all Gentiles if we could, himself being an Israelite). But we boast in the Spirit who has circumcised our hearts and made us heirs of the sons of faith, being made faithful like Abraham (Romans 8-9). But that only makes us spiritual sons and heirs through Abraham, who was *not* an Israelite. Abraham was a Gentile- a Chaldean, but the father of the faithful. Israel was Abraham’s grandson, and only the grandson of promise, for Abraham had many children (and now has all of us as children also). They who are united with Abraham are united in faith and also in the sign of circumcision (Genesis 12, Genesis 17). But now, God has circumcised both Israelite and Gentile, making us both equally sons of Abraham (Deuteronomy 30:6, Matthew 3:9, Jeremiah 4:4, Ephesians 2:8-9, Philippians 3). So we are not the true Israel unless we are ethnically Israel. But the good news is that (Ephesians 3) it doesn’t matter. Whatever ethnicity you are, you are the promised one from that nation also, and the inheritor of all of the blessings once exclusively given to only one nation: Israel. You are the true inheritor from your own nation when you are born again, just as the true remnant from Israel always exists from the Israelites who accept the Messiah until all of the nations and all of Israel are blessed and saved (Romans 11).
Oh? So you have now gone over to Jerusalem, been circumcised, changed all your DNA and BECOME and Israelite? LITERALLY and PHYSICALLY Daniel? And if NOT, the the whole message is SPIRIT - Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
@@Crow44195 no, you are wrong. There is now (in the New Covenant in Jesus' Blood) NO longer Israel vs Gentiles but we are one new man in Christ - He Himself having broken down the dividing wall of hostility between the two. Jesus said, He would take away their inheritance and give it to another - which He did and now as Revelation 5:9 says, people from EVERY tribe and people and nation and language will be saved. Sorry, but no longer are Israel God's special little elect - "Though the children of Israel number as the sand of the sea only a REMNANT shall be saved" This remnant began with the apostles and Acts 2 and TOGETHER with Gentiles they make up the Body of Christ.
@@time_2_get_ready Ok, so you think God has turned his back on the nation of Israel. The covenants are for Israel, gentiles were grafted in. The gentiles were grafted in due to Jews rejecting Jesus Christ to provoke the Jews to jealousy. To make them realize God has done something new and to seek Christ. God has not replaced the Jew. The Abranic covenant has not been done away with. I know HR hangs its hat on replacement theology. All believers are children of God. Jer 31:31 Rom 9:4 Rom 9:10-11 Rom 11:11, 33-36
@@craigime this is on the topic of Hebrew Roots. JK is sharing their perspective on following God's Law. How is that not on topic? What is the point you're trying to make - other than sounding like an asshole?
@@GoldenRuffian beside this being over a year old, am i supposed to take you seriously since you're not a believer and you're just here trying to start arguments and be a jerk?
They did alongside Israel throughout Scripture. My family started honoring God’s appointed times/feasts (Bible way, not Jewish tradition) and it has been a massive blessing. God said ONE LAW, not a bunch for them, but the rest of you - do nothing. What an unjust Creator. He doesn’t impart partiality. Israel was to be a light to the nations (though they disobeyed) Even in Acts they gave the gentiles 3 or 4 immediate things to stop and said “you will learn what Moses taught at synagogue on the sabbath.” The Jews add to the word and gentiles have taken away. Both are bad. Praise God that Yeshua’s “blood for forgiveness of sin” has brought us out from the “law of sin & death” to which we are not under by accepting his sacrifice. The grace is there as we walk out obedience. Nearly all homes have Bibles in them at this point, having access to God’s instruction. The law provides HOW God wants and doesn’t want to be worshiped, HOW to love our neighbor to God’s standards, HOW to handle civil issues, etc. Our father gave us instruction for blessings , no different than an earthly parent imparting rules on their children. Blessing or curses in disobedience. Choice is ours to make. If someone is teaching disobedience they are intentionally or unintentionally deceiving the sheep to which follow them, scripture says.
Please remember brothers and sisters that law requires us to be holy, loving, and perfect. And all of those to the degree that God Himself is - impossible for us. That is why we MUST abide in Christ who is the fulfillment of the law and it is HE who produces the fruit in our lives to be holy loving and perfect because he is God (and the only one who is holy loving and perfect). Christ’s grace doesn’t end with justification but is perfecting us (sanctifying us). Why oh why Christians would we start in the spirit for our salvation (justification) and then depend on the flesh for our sanctification? It is Christ who sanctifies - all glory goes to him for the good works that he produces in us.
I love you comment but just wondering what are your standards then for loving a Christian life? For real? If you let the Holy Spirit guide you what standard do you use to test that Spirit to make sure it is from the LORD? I would agree 100% with most of what you said...but what would be wrong with trying to imitate Christ? I am know we can't do it..but what would stop us from trying? And if we aren't trying to imitate Christ, what does the Chrstian life look like to you? I am seriously trying to figure this out. I love your comment about abiding in Christ but what does that look like then? I believe it does look different for everyone follows the Holy Spirit but it should never conflict with Gods Holy and perfect word? So if not the law...knowing we cant keep it perfectly.. But what then do we do?
I also see alot of Pastors tell us to keep part of the law...which I dont see anywhere in the New Testament such as Tithing...that is OT law. Why do so many pick and choose. I would surely admit I do the same as I am not even close to understanding how to follow God word...but ask the Holy Spirit to guide me in His wisdom. Just curious if you practice any of the OT law?
@@deej4527 Hi Dora! These are fantastic questions and honestly some of the most important questions that we can ask followers of Christ. In fact, that is the first question we should ask; what does it mean to be a follower of Christ? The short answer for you as to what a practical life looks like following Christ is this: in everything we come to him in humility and faith. As you say, many Christians get part one of what it means to follow Christ correct, that is they understand that through Christ's blood we have atonement for our sins (justification). What now? Do we go buy a poster of the 10 commandments and put it on our wall and try to live up to it? I would suggest that doing so would be what we read about it 2 Timothy 2:5 - having a form of godliness, but denying its power. Gal 3:3 asks us if the work was begun in us through the Spirit why we are now trying to finish in the flesh. Not only do our works not save us, they also have nothing to do with sanctifying us (bringing us more conformed to the image of Christ)! Our pride and lack of humility is what keeps us going back to our default status of trying to produce these fruits on our own. This is not to say that when God gives us opportunities to do his work that we don't act. On the contrary, the parable about the three servants who were entrusted with an amount of money while their master was away shows us that God provides us with the means, and we act on what he has given us, BUT we do so while still relying on him in humility and faith (as the servants had faith their master would return and humility knowing that none of what they were given came from themselves). I know its rather taboo to put links in comments, but I highly suggest you listen to this entire series by pastor Bob Hoekstra: livinginchrist.org/portfolio_page/growing-in-the-grace-of-god-in-depth/. To answer your question about me keeping the law: if I keep any part of the law it is by the grace of God and work of the Holy Spirit in me that I do it - the sermon on the mount is meant to highlight the fact that we are absolutely incapable of keeping the law, but we are taught that when we come to Christ in humility and faith that HIS righteousness is imputed to us! Amen and amen because if it were up to me to keep any of the law for any purpose I would fail until the day I die. I live by the new covenant - not the old; not meaning that the old has by any means passed away because until the heavens and earth pass away not one letter of the law will disappear, but Christ's sacrifice was once and for ALL - how great of a message is it that when we are in Christ we are absolutely forgiven and can continue to trust in His promises to transform our hearts to produce these fruits in our life without having to manufacture these fruits ourselves?
@@sadkingbilly3308 I feel like you have me two answers? "If I keep any part of the law it is by Gods grace and the Holy Spirit" Is that a bad thing to try to strive to keep the law? I feel like you keep going back to keeping the law for salvation. That is not the argument for me. I know I cant keep the law even close to perfect...like you said...by the grace of God. But answer me this? Why would I not try? As you said it will not pass away...what is it there for then? Seriously? I have been studying this for over a year. I cant get away from how clear it seems to me that we should be trying in all sincerity with our hearts try to follow the law....knowing it will not gain us access to hevean but that God wants us to do it because his law shows us how to love our neighbor and how to love God. Why would we not try to follow His perfect example? I dont get why this is sooo wrong. Can you answer that?
@@deej4527 Because by trying to keep the law you're missing out on the freedom that we have in Christ to depend on him and allow him to produce the fruits of the law in our lives without us having to try. It is not wrong in the sense that you will lose your salvation for trying to keep the law after having understood that we are justified by faith alone, but in your attempting to keep the law by yourself the only thing that you are doing is burning yourself out because Christ IS sufficient to transform you. It's like this - Imagine you have a brand new car and you invite all of your friends over to see your car. Everyone is standing around your car and you suggest that you all go for a ride in it together to feel how well the car drives. Everyone piles into the car except for you; you go around to the back of your brand new car and start pushing as hard as you can to try to move your car. One of your friends gets out and takes you to the front of the car and then shows you the engine - they then show you how to start the car and how the gas pedal works. All this to say a Christian who is trying to live up to the law to sanctify themselves after they have already put their faith in Christ for salvation is like this person who gets a new car and tries to push it themselves instead of using the built in power system to move them forward - this power system is the grace that we receive through faith. This is all to say that truly God promises that in Phil 1:6: "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. " You will become very disappointed in yourself if you try to live up to the law - God shows us that He has something better for us through Christ Jesus. Ask yourself what is the purpose of the law?
119 says they want dialog and correction, but they don't allow discussions. And I’ve experienced serious shenanigans on Hebrew Roots channels that do allow discussion. If all a channel has are glowing comments without serious debate, they've probably shadow-banned many believers who made good points they don't want you to see. And by the way, several channels banned my reasoned arguments while leaving crazy troll's comments alone, so don't be fooled by the presence of trolls that a channel is open to criticism because it's not the same thing.
Yep. Philia ministries deletes all brainy comments with opposing viewpoints to theirs and then calls people slanderers for merely disagreeing with them.
He told to Jews to keep his laws for all time for all generations and to teach their children. And it means they love Him back with all their heart. He told them to write his laws on their hearts. So it is true for the Jews but not for us? We are all one people when we serve the Lord.
2 Tim 3:16 says "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right". "All Scripture" cannot refer to the NT since it wasn't compiled yet. It's referring to the OT (Tanakh).
I understand why you say what you say. Because the Tanakh is what Yahusha taught from. Having said that, it is not true, that only the Tanakh is the "all Scriptures" because when Paul/Shaul wrote this, was post Yahusha's teaching (the Gosples). Therefore All Scripture will include the Tanakh and Renewed Covenant. The disciples were relaying the Teaching of Yahusha in the Renewed Covenant.
@@AliceSusanHarding There are dead works which are not of faith. And there are works of faith that are fruit of having faith. Faith is in the spirit. Unbelief is not. The Law of Moses is NOT of faith. The Law of Moses was until the Seed came, which is Jesus, and faith. Galatians 3. Walking in the Spirit by faith is fulfilling the Law of Moses. We are dead, raised by the power of the Spirit, walk in newness of life as regenerated born again transformed people. We are not mere men but a new creation in Christ Jesus, which is Israel per Galatians 6:16. So Alice, works do not justify us no. But real faith has an evidence seen by works. It's spiritual fruit. Like a tree of a certain kind will have the fruit of the tree. We being in Christ the True Vine will bare "Jesus/Spirit" fruit. This is for the pleasure and glory of the Father. John 15. Law of Christ. Love Me. Obey Me. Abide in Me. Bare fruit in Me. The Father loves Jesus because He laid HIs life down. The Father loves us as we lay our lives down too. Hear My voice. Learn From Me. Follow Me. Abide in Me. We are Jesus' friends and not mere slaves if we obey Him. He then shows us through the Holy Spirit things to come and all things of Jesus. We do the Father's will and hence know of the doctrine. We then are taught by the Father. Here in this chapter Jesus speaks how He is hated. The Father is hated by the them as well. And, if we are abiding in Him they will hate us too. That's the way it goes. Happy are you when men hate you and speak all manner against you falsely for My names' sake. Rejoice and leap for joy for great is your reward in heaven, for so did their fathers to the true prophets. Walk with Jesus by walking in the Spirit through faith. Glory in the cross.
All of us are born again Christians. None of us believe you have to follow the law to be saved. We do believe that God never ended his request to celebrate holidays like Passover, and he never authorize a celebration of things like Christmas. We all know that Jesus was the son of God and that he came in fulfillment of the scripture hence the Hebrew roots
The Lords Supper is the fullfillment of the Passover. No need for Gentiles to celebrate Passover. Christmas is the celebration of Jesus birth. We also celebrate Easter and Pentecost and their is no Bible command to celebrate those either.
It's fascinating that the 7 Appointed Times God gave His people all tie together to depict the life of Yeshua/Jesus and to symbolize the new life of believers as we walk out our faith. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ (Yeshua haMashiach) according to Moses. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? 1 Passover/Pesach He died as the Passover "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world." We die to our sin and leave our sinful ways. 2 The Feast of Unleavened Bread He was sinless. The Word lived out perfectly in wisdom in a human body. We examine our lives according to His Word and confess our sins and walk in His ways. 3. Feast of Firstfruits He resurrected from the dead. We are raised up from spiritual death to walk in newness of life, following Him to one day experience a complete resurrection. 4. Shavuot/Pentecost Feast of Weeks He sent His Spirit to indwell believing hearts. Our hearts are changed and we are transformed to hear Him and follow His Way. 5. Yom Teruah/ Day of Trumpets He will come again, announced as King. We welcome our King and His kingdom. 6. Yom Kippur/ Day of Atonement He judges the world. We who are in Him, part of His body are seen as righteous, by His eternal Word in us. His Spirit sanctifies our Temple. His blood, the Word, has transformed us. His Word washes us with truth. 7. Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles or Booths He tabernacles again on earth, to reign over all in justice and peace. We who love His law will reign with Him.
When jesus died for our sins the law was no longer needed in stone it was planted in your heart by the holy spirit who keeps you from breaking the law we are not saved by the law but by the blood of jesus who paid our debt so if you trying to do the law to get you to heaven it will do you know good it is what christ did not what we can do
Angela Crutcher - amen...the Holy Spirit guides us back to the Law (now written on our hearts and minds) and helps us stay on Yeshua’s/Jesus’ Way, which is God’s Way, which we find by reading and doing the rules to live by found in the ‘Old Testament.’
@case930 we are saved by the blood of christ no works or deeds will save us no one can boast about what they have done it is only what christ has done that give us everlasting life now we will be rewarded for our good works but good works will never save your soul.
@case930 abraham believed god and it accounted to him unto righteousness without faith it is impossible to please God when Israel was in the wilderness and made idols it was because of unbelief so that's why they suffered because they didn't believe God, our works unto salvation is like filthy rags and without the shedding of blood theirs no forgiveness of sin so we trust in the shed blood of Christ to pay our sin debt.
The Messiah revealed the true intentions of everything. He revealed the hearts and true intentions of the Pharisees for example. As for the Torah, the purpose was to have everyone live in peace, love, harmony, and prosperously with the father and each other.
Exactly opposite - I have peace that never leaves, no unsettling feelings. If I’m doing something wrong I bring it to God and ask for forgiveness and if I need help with something I ask God for help. The people around me that don’t believe have not yet come to God, asked for forgiveness for sin and received Jesus.
Overly simplistic?!?! @15:45 you mention it is overly simplistic and manipulative to say, "if you love me, you'll do this for me......" You know who said that? Jesus did! "If you love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15 Please reconsider. I am praying for you these coming weeks as you tackle this further. I once set out to prove we didnt need to follow the Torah and the Spirit opened my eyes to the truth and I ended up writing a long paper about how scripture does not say what you are claiming. I love you as a brother in Christ, and please continue the conversation in a loving way. This needs to be discussed! God bless you!
You missed his point. When the used the example "if you love me, you will do this for me", if is not Jesus speaking, it is a flawed human. A person could say "if you love me, let me do drugs". This is not even remotely equivalent to Jesus saying "if you love me, you'll keep my commandments". What were Jesus' commandments? “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” - Matthew 22:35-40 This is perfectly consistent with faith apart from works and orthodox Christianity in general. If you don't love God with all you heart and you are not treating your neighbor as yourself, you are not born again and thus not saved. The scripture tells us over and over, in many ways, this is a heart issue and that our words and actions are the product of our heart. Jesus' good fruit bad fruit analogy is one example. A good tree, produces good fruit in the same way a born again believer's nature is transformed such that good works are the natural product of our new nature bring us into conformity to Christ.
@Ναζωραῖος Thank you for such a thoughtful response. You clearly have been wrestling with this topic for some time and I appreciate anyone who cares enough about finding the truth to do the research and not just let others tell them what to believe. I pray that God will be gracious upon you and your family and that He will bless you with understanding and knowledge that comes through the Spirit. At the conclusion of the wisdom book of Ecclesiastes (verse 12:13), scripture reads, "Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind." Note that is does not say the duty of the tribes of Israel but the duty of all mankind. My question for you is this: Can you show me where in Scripture God amended this decree? Also, per your comment above about the dietary laws. Another question I have for you pertains to prophetic writing in Isaiah. In chapters 65 and 66, scripture twice uses the eating of pig's flesh as a characteristic of those who are the enemies of God and recipients of His judgement. Why would that matter if "all food has been made clean"? You can even see that at the end of chapter 66 that mankind will be coming to worship Jesus as He sits in His throne in Jerusalem every Sabbath. Zechariah describes God withholding rain from the nations that refuse to come worship during the Feasts of Tabernacles. These are all prophetic passages describing what will take place when Jesus returns. Why would scripture make these claims if the Law no longer was applicable? Have a wonderful day and God bless you!
Mike winger, I realized how you are doing exactly what you have criticised about 119 ministries. You are are making all these statements and making all these questions before ever going to one scripture. 24 minutes of this. Mathew 7:5
I thought the same thing. I appreciate the respectful way you approach this. But it saddens me that while I understand having your guard up as you listen to the teaching, but you never stop and try to consider the possibility that you might be wrong about what you believe the application for Torah means for the Gentile believer today. If the Psalmist speaks so elaborately of the goodness of God's Law/Commandments/Precepts/Statutes and in doing so established the longest chapter with that central theme - we must stop and ask ourselves if we truly understand the fullness of God's intended plan regarding His Commandments and its application for the Jew and the Gentile as we are one in Christ. From the time I repented and turned in faith to Christ Jesus at 15 years old (24 yrs ago), I had a sense of things not adding up as I studied the Word and hearing some of the teachings from church. I even decided to attend a Bible college in my city to learn how to study and rightly divide the Word. Even using methods of Apologetics, etc still felt what I was reading/studying was not consistent with some areas of teaching in "good" Bible based circles. This was long before I ever heard of any Hebrew roots or Torah observing Christians. And i know many others who can say the same. So the beginning remarks in the 119 video may seem manipulative to some, but right on for others. Mike, and others who are reading this, just pause and pray and ask God if there is something in this he wants you to see. Really, an earnest request of His guidance. Just Consider, Study, Research. Mike, have a real conversation with John or someone from the ministry and wrestle with God in the scriptures together. Get a better understanding of what it looks like to observe Torah today - it actually isn't much different from your walk in Christ now. For example, including holidays that God calls HIS appointed times and the Sabbath (Fri evening to Sat evening) - a day to be set apart (Holy unto God), which He established for man from the very beginning (Gen. 2:1-3). See how it all points to Christ, his first and second coming - and rejoice! Blessings
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I tried to remember a channel you could go to for more info on Hebrew Roots stuff. This is it th-cam.com/users/TheBeginningOfWisdom
They have quite a lot of content and for those of you who need more than I have made in my 4 videos (currently) in this series, I think you should check them out.
@ 39:00; concerning “Jesus never left the land of Israel and only preached to Jews” this is over-simplistic and not true. Christ ministered to the Syro-phoenician woman, Jesus engaged with a Canaanite woman, healed the Roman Centurion’s servant, spent 2 days preaching amongst the Samaritans, and famously cast out the Gadarene demon in what many commentators agree gentile territory due to the herding of Swine. He may not have left the borders of Israel, but His instructions that He taught were clear: go ye therefore to all nations. When people in the HR movement say walk as Yeshua walked, they don’t mean wear a beard and stay in Israel. They mean obey His instruction and emulate His righteous observance of God’s Law. The Law is God’s not Moses’. Moses was the one who received it, but Christ was the one who administered it on the Mountain.
Mike Winger , you must understand that there is more than one law ; In the gospel three type of laws are talked about : 1. The laws/commandments/instructions of the Father ; which includes all the covenants ; these are instructions to righteousness ; that is why when the man asked Jesus , what good things shall I do , that I may have eternal life ? Jesus said , " KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS " . 2. The law of the mediator , which is a sin sacrifice through a priesthood , to recover you when you transgress the laws of the Father ; remember , the covenants are between the Father and the covenant people ; the mediators intercedes for the people ; they can not change the covenants . The law through the mediator Moses was the blood of the animals and oblations ; which was carried out by the Leviticus priesthood . This law was the law of works , not of faith ( Romans 3:27-28 , " Where is boasting then ? It is excluded . By what law ? of works ? Nay: but by the law of faith . Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law " ) . The law of faith is the blood of Jesus Christ through faith ; Which means that you must repent of your sins with a sorrowful , like king David did , and believe by obedience ; that means keeping your mediator ( Jesus Christ ) commandments ; which are the same laws/instructions/ commandments of the Father . In Hebrews 7:11-28 , the priesthood of works ( Leviticus ) was replaced by the priest of faith ( Melchisedec ) . Moses was the mediator of the Leviticus priesthood , and Jesus Christ is the mediator of the Melchisedec priesthood . All laws comes from the Father , but he gave the mediator laws , as the husbands/coverings/protections for the people under the covenant with the Father . Jesus Christ lived a blameless life , without sin , so he was not worthy of death ; he died not for himself , but the sins of the world . Most people do not understand that this death is a free gift for ALL MEN WHO HAVE EVER LIVED ; which is the sin of the first death , THE GRAVE . It is your faith in Jesus Christ , by repenting and start obeying his commandments , which are the same as the Father , that free you from the second death , THE LAKE OF FIRE .Jesus like Moses gave the laws of the Father , and like Moses a sin sacrifice when through the mediators , through a priesthood ( law of works or animal sacrifice and oblations through the Leviticus priesthood ; And the law of faith or blood of Christ through Melchisedec priesthood ) . To serve the Father , you MUST LIVE BY FAITH/SPIRIT . Jesus Christ did not bring you his words , but the words that the Father gave him ( Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , " The LORD thyGod will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee , of thy brethren , like unto me ; unto him ye shall hearken ; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly , saying , Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God , neither let me see this great fire any more , that I die not . And the LORD said unto me , They have well spoken that which they have spoken . I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethen , like unto thee , and will put my words in his mouth ; and he shall speak unto them all that shall command him . And it shall come to pass , that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name , I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM " ) . Jesus Christ said in John 12:44-50 , stated that any man that hear his words that he will speak in the Father's name and not believe , the same words will judge him in the last day = white throne judgment . You believe/hear/know/have faith/trust/follow Jesus Christ , when you obey his commandments ; which are the same laws of the Father . Finally , Moses told the people that the prophet would give them what they desired at Horeb or Mount Sinai ; What did they desire at Horeb or Mount Sinai , the laws/commandments/instructions ; which includes the covenants of the Father . Shalom !
the disciple if you want to correct me please make a thoughtful argument that explains my errors and shows a better way of understanding the passages of scripture that I rely on to make my case. Calling me names isn’t going to help.
@@MikeWinger a man like you cannot be corrected, you did not believe you're wrong about anything. You're teaching on the Sabbath and dietary laws,is enough to show me I could never be right with you. Neither could Jesus be right with you, because Jesus kept the dietary laws, God's holy Feasts, and The Seventh-Day Sabbath. May you be blessed,
SHALOM
@@messengerisrael3817 Mark 12:30 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these." These are the commands we are to live by today. We are no longer under law. The ten commandments as law was a teacher or guardian for the Israelites/Jews until they were done away with. Jesus came and died for our sins and then conquered death and He conquered His followers deaths. Galatians 3:25 says that we are no longer under the law now that Jesus has redeemed us. Then just a few verses later in Galatians 3:28 the Word of God says that "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free". We are all one in Christ. And we will all be judged individually not as a group!
We can make all the excuses in the world...but when you understand the Gospel of Christ Jesus, you realize it's not about what you do, but what Christ Jesus has done, is doing and will do...and not us. Trust in Him! What a great Lord and Savior we have in Christ Jesus!!
For salvation yes!! Then we have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling…
“So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and questionings: that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom ye are seen as lights in the world…”
Philippians 2:12-14 (ASV)
@@MMH-2129 Please watch Theocast's latest video... The self validation project. I couldn't say it as full of grace as they, but it's a timely response to your assertion that God sees us with any righteousness outside of Christ's righteousness. Praying for you. The Gospel of Christ Jesus really is good news....to God goes All the glory.
@@MMH-2129 What you quoted is not by the deeds of the Torah.
Fear and trembling is a term interpeted as belief, trust and faith in a all powerful GOD.
Paul is teaching how the congregation is to behave not one's personal salvation to be worked out. He is teaching to the Body not the person.
@@MMH-2129For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. (Romans 3:28 )
@@rickhuntling7338 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. (Romans 3:28 )
What's interesting is that I never ran into a Hebrew roots congregation nor a messianic congregation that disregards Paul's writings
Paul was known as a Natsarim, which is commonly called Messianic Judaism in modern day.
@Child of The Covenant I'd be willing to bet you pick and choose what aspects if the Law you follow.
@Child of The Covenant because the sacrifices literally cannot be met anymore because no one is ceremonially clean under the law.
So I know for a fact that you don't keep the guilt offerings. You don't keep the sin offerings. You don't keep the fellowship offerings and you don't keep passover as prescribed under the law.
Also, have you established sanctuary cities? Do you return to the bank the interest they gave you on your checking and savings account every seven years?
I'd venture not. You've established those Laws which make you feel righteous in accordance with what Paul says in Colossians 2.
Where are the Levites to whom you are to give a portion of your produce?
@Child of The Covenant and before you dismiss Paul, you better hope his letters are scripture, because they're called as such by the same Church fathers who compiled the rest of the new Covenant writings. So if Paul can't be trusted, how can you trust the gospel according to Matthew or Luke or Peter's writings by which you came to faith?
Hey brother, I appreciate your approach, your heart, and your desire for good Biblical theology, and I would actually be curious if you would be interested in doing a similar examination of some of my teachings on UNLEARN.
This is great. Mike should check out your video on deity of messiah, I think you echo some of the sentiments he does with rejection of Jesus all together.
Wouldnt think to see unlearn here.
@@codymarkley8372, someone sent me a link to this video. I have since subscribed to Mike's channel and have enjoyed several of his videos.
@@unlearnthelies I really like your channel too, the Hebrew roots movement challenged me to learn more about my Christian faith and why I adhere to certain things. I'm not a roots member, but I appreciate their efforts, and their studious attention to details.
@@unlearnthelies hey Lex did Mike get in touch with you?
While I is in Hebrew roots I lost several friends to Judaism. It's sad. The Lord pulled me out, I stopped rejecting Paul's letters and really totally had my heart changed. I dont even know how I got tricked into going into it. I felt like a galatian, bewitched, as Paul called them. I was really confused for several years
Praise God
@@purplepill5345 your name is interesting. Reminds me of mixtures. You know red pill of actual truth to overcome the blue pill of the matrix manipulation of truth. Blessings
My sister has fallen for HR. She does not think she is confused, but I think she is. I am afraid she will end in desperation. Please pray for her That she will see the light like you did.
@@trinawetzel2222 I think they like making themselves "righteous" and that is why people fall for it. Only Christ can make us righteous. Only He can save us. Humans want to be gods though and humbling themselves to Jesus' authority and giving all of it to Him seems out of our control. If they are making themselves righteous with feast days and such then they have fulfilled that need to be a god. Humility is definitely not an attribute of any I have run into. I will definitely pray for her. They twist the scriptures so much that it is confusing to even try to talk to them. They make some scriptures say the exact opposite of what they actually mean and they are all so confident in the lies and in their doctrine. They speak lies with conviction and we all know if a lie is repeated enough times people will start believing it. There is no hope without Christ, I pray your sister finds Him.
tricked? into what?... loving God? how does one get tricked in Hebrew roots?
Galatians 3:27-29 (KJV)
"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
These verses are far too neglected. The Greek is even stronger than it appears in English. The "put on" is enduo, which means clothed, as if putting a garment on. One is "wrapped around with a garment" with Christ and everything he is, has, and has done. When the Father's sees you, He sees Christ who covers you like a robe. You inherit everything Jesus is, has, and has done. You get it all! Nothing else necessary. Nothing to add. Nothing CAN be added, because it is EVERYTHING. Claiming anything can be added or is necessary is mocking Christ who is the All. All of the cults mock Christ in this way.
I think that the real reason why people get involved in the Hebrew roots group. Is because of learning about how far the modern day Christian Church has left God. When you take the time to do your own personal research on Halloween Christmas Easter. You start looking for ways where you can set yourself apart from these holidays. I think that the reason why people are leaving the modern day Christian Church is not because of Hebrew Roots but because of the modern day Christian Church.
Celebrating Rash Hashanah this year in conjunction with my baptism
Its the celebration of the creation of the world!! Most important!
I have been leaning more into the messianic than the Christian as well
That’s a very accurate assessment!
@@allyahcash3063 water baptism (imposed by men) is worthless, because salvation is by grace.
No works can be added to the perfect sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ.
At the root of this being a Cult is they always FAIL to Mention that there are TWO COVENANTS. That's Biblical Old and New Testament. The Bible says We are now under a better Covenant. It's a NEW and LIVING WAY.
Everything has become so confusing. May God help us.
The confusion is only the work of the enemy. Where "confusion" is or disorder, there is every evil work. The Word is clear, pure and simple. Proverbs 30:5-6. Doing the will of the Father guarantees knowing the doctrine of Jesus.
Where people get confused is because they are not obeying Jesus and His voice.
Come to Me. Learn from Me. Follow Me. Abide in Me.
Jesus is the Way. Laying down His life, being a humble servant, obedient to death, taught by the Father, only doing what was pleasing to the Father, testifying that the deeds of the world were evil and so on.
This is where it is vital. Take note as the Holy Spirit shows you what a disciple is...and how Jesus lived before the Father.
Jesus also spoke against having exalted men titled over you. We are to take heed and beware of men.
Colossians 2 shows the pure understanding and knowing the mysteries of God is all hid in Jesus. The truth is in Jesus. He is the pure word. But what happens is that the same old builders that reject the Cornerstone are the
teachers exalted and bringing in leaven. There are four exhortations of the false teachers in that chapter.
By knowing His voice through fellowship (engaging, interaction, exchange) with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, we then can discern the voice of the strangers, thieves, robbers, hirelings and wolves. Take a look at 1John 1 and you will see what John was sharing on this.
Lastly, the "church system" is the proving ground. If individuals did what the Lord said to do in what I described above, they would not be deceived or confused. The deception and confusion that leads astray to error is becasue they have trusted men, and been drawn aside by other gospels, spirits and even false christs.
The idolatry, love for the world, unbelief, uncleanness is NOT OK with the Lord.
But there are people like Lot who vexed his righteous soul everyday in seeing and hearing what was going on in the land. So too today. And even in Jerusalem and its fullness of abominations when God marked those who were grieved about it. People get used to the stench of uncleanness when they do not get washed by the Lord. It is about sanctifying the Lord in our heart, abiding in Him, loving him and staying intimate. Then will be kept by Him for sure. Because, that was God doing it in you ...and He will keep what is His. Bless you in Jesus' name.
Yeah because they take the focus off Jesus Christ. Remember ANYTHING that takes the focus off Jesus is NOT from God. John 3:14-15 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
That confusion tends to fade away once someone finally submits to obeying the literal voice of God, rather than trying to explain it away. And, in case anyone's confused, I'm talking about the TEN Commandments, which includes the Sabbath. It's called elementary obedience.
@JJ France JJ, with all due respect to you, you are in error. For example, you emphasized "HIS commandments" (the Messiah's) as if they are somehow different than the Father's. That is simply not the case (for several reasons). Moreover, you don't have to take my word on that, as the Messiah tells us that Himself:
John 7:16 NKJV Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.
Additionally, lets not forget what that New Covenant you speak of is! It's the Most High writing His Torah on our hearts!
Jeremiah 31:33 NKJV But this is the [new] covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law [TORAH] in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
And, lastly, let me leave you these Words from the Most High, which He spoke to Moses concerning the coming Messiah; AKA: the "Prophet" (Notice the CAPITAL letters)
Deuteronomy 18:18-19 NKJV (18) I will raise up for them a Prophet like you (Moses) from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. (19) And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him.
So, whose Words are in the Messiah's mouth?
When you hear the Messiah speak, you are hearing the Father speak! So, when the Messiah says: "If you love Me, keep My Commandments", it is NO different than when He said it during the giving of the TEN Commandments! Commandments, mind you, that 99.9% of professing Christians don't keep! (Because they are deceived!)
Exodus 20:6 NKJV but showing mercy to thousands, to those who *love Me and keep My commandments.*
Unfortunately, most Christians are just like Philip, in that they fail to recognize who the Messiah is!
John 14:8-10 NKJV Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." (9) Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (10) Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
Moreover, just 5 verses after the passage above - a passage where the Messiah Himself told us that His Words are the Father's - He says this:
John 14:15 NKJV "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
Alas, it seems that we have come full circle...
Brother Randy,
Sour Milk Ministries
@JJ FranceYes, different Covenants (agreements) based on the same magnified Law. Isaiah 42:21 NKJV The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will exalt the law and make it honorable.
And, in reference to the deception (of 99.9% of Christians) that I mentioned in my previous reply, please consider checking out some of my TH-cam videos...
Shalom
Brother Randy,
Sour Milk Ministries
Mike, I have found drawing closer to Jesus and understanding his teachings so much better while understanding the Old Testament and the laws.
As a follower of our Messiah I don't attempt to follow the laws for legalistic reasons or because I'm under the law but because it helps me understand Our Savior. By obedience or the desire to be obedient is a self demonstration of my own dedication to God. The 613 commandments all deal with HOW to Love God, neighbor, and self. The written instructions on how you do that. By no means are my works required, but it's a simple way to have the desire to live a holy life and desire to live a holy life. God says to Israel to be holy for he is holy, we are holy by the mercy and grace of our Messiah, and the commandments are a great way to walk like the Messiah. I don't tell my fellow Christians anymore that they should or they HAVE to follow the laws because that's not true. I did before when I was confused and legalistic but now, I just share with them why I do it. I do it because I want to, it's a lifestyle to remember HIM. The laws and holidays are a great way to remind yourself why you do what you do and the main reason I attempt it, because our Messiah (our Savior) and HIS work, it's all about Him, not us or our works. ❤️🙏
"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness," 2 Timothy 3:16
The law is more blessings. That's all. 👍
You are right that all Scripture applies and that you should keep the Torah. But you are wrong on the rest. Legalism is not a word found in Scripture. Because there is no such thing. And if you don't keep the Torah you are under the Law. The Law applies to those who break them. And we are saved By the blood of Yahusha, and because we love Him, the evidence of our love is seen in obedience to His Torah, below find the Scriptural requirements to be saved:
Obedience is key to everlasting life.
We are not saved by faith alone:
Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
We must have Faith, but on itself is not sufficient.
Joh 3:16 “For Elohim so loved the world that He gave His only brought-forth Son, so that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life.
We need to believe in His Name, belief in the wrong Name will not do!
Joh 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged, but he who does not believe is judged already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only brought-forth Son of Elohim.
Works on its own is not sufficient, but we need works:
Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
We can not be saved without obedience, because we receive His Spirit through obedience:
Act 5:32 “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Elohim has given to those who obey Him.”
Love for Yahuah will instil the obedience which will encompass all required to be saved.
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
If we love Him WE WILL OBEY HIS COMMANDS. This will be the cause for us to be saved:
Heb 5:9 And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting deliverance to all those obeying Him,
So if you truly love Him you will seek the reason to obey rather than seek the reason to disobey His Commands.
If you want eternal life? Obey His Commands:
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One - Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
“Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel.
“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction.”
Mal 4:3-6 (ESV)
The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 (ESV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
1 John 5:2-3 (ESV)
Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
Rev 12:17 (ESV)
Although I disagree with Mike's understanding of this particular topic, I do greatly admire how thoughtfully and lovingly he presented his position. Sadly, it's rare to find those qualities in people on either side of this argument.
You disagree but that doesn't make you right. This very video refutes your position.
The law was created to show us that we could never measure up to Gods righteousness and that we need a savior- Christ. That is the purpose of the law. Have you read the Bible ever?
@@canabiss8297 Kind of rude with that last question. People have their own understanding. This person is clearly seeking answers. God will show the truth to those who seek. We don't all have the same walk nor do we all come to the same conclusions at the same time. It is a process to undo our bias when interpreting scripture.
Personally, I'm still researching this topic. Before finding out about this movement, I had already been going through my own process. I wanted to get rid of pagan practices and ideologies that twisted scripture. For a while now, I've wondered why cultures changed the Lord's Day to Sunday when God originally had it on Saturday. (In Spanish Saturday means Sabado which also means Sabbath. Interesting.) I even celebrated Passover last year. I know this sounds legalistic, but I understand that these things are not my savior. My Savior is Jesus Christ. My current perspective is that these days are a beautiful way to honor and remember God. It's like when we dedicate full days to Him with prayer except these days are appointed by God Himself. I just find it beautiful that God wants us all to be united on these special days each with its own unique theme.
I don't fully support the Hebrew Roots Movement, but I do see where they are coming from. It really is an interesting topic, and I hope that the Holy Spirit can continue to guide us as we all seek truth. I pray to be as open as I can when He speaks. God bless you.
Also, this is not my full understanding of the subject. There's so much more I could write about and still so much more I'm researching. Take what I say with a grain of salt.
@@me-zp7db I’m the same as you. I took 4months from church to read the bible as it is. And I agree the law still should be followed as I’m obedience to the most high. I’m the Torah, when they had strangers amongst them people who wasn’t Hebrew they YHWH said the stranger is become like Isreal and shouldn’t be treated different. For them to be grafted into Isreal they had to abide by the covenant and keep the law sabbath, circumcised etc. YHWH classed them as Isreal. That’s what grafted him means. I don’t ever believe it’s one set of rules for group of people and another set of rules for another. YHWH doesn’t bring confusion like that. It’s littered through the bible if you love me keep my commands. This is “love” that you keep my commands. Only through Yahushua can we be resurrected and saved like obedience can’t resurrect us. Moses and Abraham are still in Sheol waiting and they kept the law. The millennium reign describes how we will be keeping the law and everyone will be required to do so. The law was given through the Ángels and they do the will of the father so it’s not the law of Moses. It’s gods law. Yahushua said I give you a new commands, love your god and love your neighbour and all the law and prophets hangs on these two commands. ALL the prophets had one consistent message love god return back to his commands and come out of idol worship.
@Chumnley snoop...and you think that you keep all 10 commandments perfectly, every day -- you are lying. The ONLY we can live holy, is by dying to our flesh daily because we have the Holy Spirit in our lives, which could have only happen by being truly born-again!!!
I was raised in a cult that would fall into the more extreme end of Hebrew Roots (saved by grace AND obedience to the Law). After that cult fell apart, I spent the next 20 years either not really pursuing God or attending more and more charismatic churches. For the past year, I've discovered and have been exploring the Hebrew Roots/Messianic churches. I've come to this conclusion:
We are saved by grace alone through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
All scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, so we may be equipped for good work (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Meaning there are things we can learn from the Torah and the Law about how to conduct ourselves, but we are not required to follow the Law to the letter. As example, Leviticus 19:32 says we are to stand when someone with grey hair enters the room; we do not have to follow that exact command, but honoring and respecting the elderly (showing love to one another) is conduct becoming of a follower of Jesus.
Each person may have conviction on various things (clean/unclean foods, holidays, tattoos, clothing, etc) and it's our job to honor and respect our brothers and sisters. If the conviction is simply because the person is trying to honor the Lord, and not trying to make it some condition of salvation, that's fine (Romans 14).
I am personally convicted to not observe Christmas or Easter, and to keep the Old Testament Feasts. My heart in this conviction is to honor God and to celebrate the way He has said is pleasing to Him and to rejoice in the way that the OT feasts tell of the gospel and remind us of God's sovereignty and plan that was in place from the beginning of the earth. I also, don't fault my friends or family for keeping the holidays I choose to refrain from. It's slowly becoming a more mutually respectful situation where we are learning to honor one another better every year and celebrate our differences. We are learning to recognize that we are doing different things with the same conviction to honor God.
Shalom Gennifer - I like what you wrote, thank you! I think there are many who do not understand the difference between legalism and keeping Our Father's commands. He wrote The 10 Commands Himself, Exodus 31:18 - so they are not negotiable.About honouring and respecting where others are at, i.e. concerning unclean foods, tattoos, holidays, etc., what does The Father say about these various things in His instructions to us? Indeed, we do need to be kind, however I’m sure you agree we also need to be equipped for that Holy Spirit moment for truth to prevail and all the answers are in The Scriptures. May those divine appointments be made concerning those we love! When the subject of The Sabbath and keeping it set apart or eating pork or other “unclean animals”, often people will say, “that’s a Jewish thing“ or “that doesn’t apply to us - that’s Old Testament - it’s been done away with”, etc. None of which is Truth! Sabbath - established in Genesis 2:2 For the good of humankind! Unclean and Clean animals - (some for food and some not food!) Genesis Ch 7 & Lev Ch.11. For the good of humankind! Aside from the benefits, surely to obey G-d’s commands just because we love Him and want to please Him should be the main thing. (Interesting how many people would rather not give up bacon than please Him😆). Hebrews 11:6 says “Without faith (inherent trust and confidence) it is impossible to please Him”. Faith includes obeying Him because we trust and have confidence in Him and in His instructions. The Scriptures clearly teach that the instructions which apply to Israel also apply to the gentiles who believe in The G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I am grateful and today pray a blessing for Israel and the Jewish people who show all mankind that it is possible to eat clean foods and a joy to keep The Sabbath set apart!
@@Luke12vs48 thank you for your kind and well thought out words. I believe that obedience to Yah is very important; but, I'm not sure that there is a blanket statement of what things everyone must do to be obedient. Certainly following the Ten Commandments, certainly conducting oneself morally, certainly loving others as oneself. I'm not sure if the issue of clean/unclean foods is a blanket requirement for all believers. Romans 14 takes the stand that each person will conduct themselves in the manner they believe will honor the Lord and we are not to pass judgements on those we disagree with. I regret ever suggesting to a friend or family member that they are dishonoring Yah by not following certain rules, and I hope they can forgive me and walk in freedom from any bondage my words may have created. Yah has asked ME to keep the sabbath in certain ways that may not look the same as how you keep it. Yah has asked me to abstain from certain foods for a period (things not required by dietary law) because He is walking me through a season; it would be wrong of me to expect others to follow these rules too. I think that if someone is reading the scriptures and asking Holy Spirit for revelation and seeking to obey Yah, THAT is the most important part. Old and new testament tell us that circumcision of the heart is more important than following the Law. I'm glad to hear that you are being obedient to what Yah is asking YOU to do in YOUR life.
Wholly agree with you Gennifer! These are the exact same conclusions, convictions, and beliefs I have grown to believe and follow. For me, the "Hebrew Roots" of our faith means reconnecting to what used to be to part of the early believers daily lives - the things they knew from their upbringing as Jewish people who became Christians. The 7 Feasts of the Lord are the most important thing that should be taught to every believer, to understand the fulness of Messiah's mission, and sadly they are sidelined for the most part. We are Saved by Grace - and that statement finds so much more meaning when connecting it back to all the teachings in the Old Testament.
Great point Jennifer. I have also dealt with varying extreme views in Hebrew Roots like I did in general Christianity. The one thing I differ with in my conclusion is the potential danger of having convictions compared/contrasted with following our Creator’s Instructions. Should my convictions take precedent if they are contrary to an instruction in the Bible? I feel my convictions should be in alignment. If they do not, perhaps I should weight both. But in the end, at least the no doubt/clear instructions should take precedent. I personally am concerned with some family members I have that have fallen into supporting this whole LGBQT++ movement. They feel the Bible is fine with this due to “love” etc. This is one reason I fall into the side that believes His Instructions are righteous, and I should align my thinking with His, as much as we can understand today, being thousands of years removed from the cultural context and an unchanging God. I feel at peace with the concept of salvation by God’s grace, and the obedience that I try to walk out because I trust He knows what is best. Just like I did with my fleshly father when he was alive and I was his child. Shalom Jennifer.
How beautifully put. I actually came out of the pagan feasts Xmas easter while still attending Sunday church. Each year especially Xmas, I just hated it. Such a peace entered my heart when I stopped it it was a few tears later that I understood what day my father would like me to rest sabbath. The Messiah said, nit was made for man.. A day to rest from all our labours, holy set apart. I discovered how filthy some animals were and that Father created good things to eat. No, keeping His feasts days, his teachings, do not bring us salvation l, only by his grace through our faith, however father loves our obedience
I've been studying the Hebrew roots movement. I have to say I haven't come to any understandings yet, although, what do we do with the scripture in Matt 5? Jesus said he didn't came to destroy the law but to fulfil it. I looked up the Greek word for destroy: dissolve, demolish, overthrow. These are a few meanings. So He didn't come to demolish, resolve or overthrow the law. I looked up fulfil in vs 17, here are a few meanins: to fill up, to cause to abound, to consummate, to carry through to the end. Now are marriage goes are not legitimate until we consummate are marriage. Jesus said not one not or tittle will pass away from the law until heaven and earth pass away. So are we standing in a consummated law thst has now been written on our hearts and in our minds? Yes! But I don't know what to do with this yet! Because Jesus also fulfils ALL if the biblical Feast Days. He has fulfilled: Passover, First Fruits, Unleavened Bread, & Pentecost. He still has not fulfilled; the Feast of Trumpets, Feast Of Atonement or Sukkot/ Feast of Tabernacle. These are end time fulfillment. So where do we go from here? Also, we are Israel. We have been grafted in. There is only one people ISRAEL. So I'm trying to put this all together.
Sorry for typos. Stupid auto correct. Lol
I have another comment. The New Covenant wasn't signified until after Jesus Death, burial and resurrection. That may be why he followed the law because they were still under the Old Testament Law. That is why Jesus was able to tell the their on the cross that he would be in paradise without the plan of salvation: Acts 2:38, REPENT (die out our old body of sin to be like Jesus when he died o the cross), and be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sins (the bible says when we are baptized we are buried with him) and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(then and only then are you reborn into the body of Christ. We have to be like him in his death, burial and resurrection through our death/repentance, burial/baptism, resurrection/Holy Ghost gives us resurrection power. Of course there are scriptures for all of this. Test Acts 2:38.
@@jillsidock6589 Jesus followed the Law to "fulfill" the law. He lived a perfect life in order to be a spotless sacrifice for our sins.
@@michaelharrington75 if you read it with an opened mind He said he did not come to get rid of the law. He said not one jot or title will pass from the law...also says those who teach the Commandments and keeps them well be the greatest in the Kingdom but those who don't will be least.. where the law was weak through the flesh.... the Priesthood...Yahshua come to fulfill that Priesthood as our high priest.... to say there is no law is to say there is no sin. For the law points out sin. And if no law why did Yahshua die for our sins? There would be no sin to die for.
@@jillsidock6589 I never said there was no Law, or that the law had passed. Jesus fulfilled the law by living a perfect and pleasing life to the Father, and becoming a perfect sacrifice for the sins of all those who believe on Him.
The Bible is not meant to be read "with an open mind". It's meant to be rightly divided.
Romans 6:14 "For sin shall have no dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace."
Galatians 5:4 "You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace."
Galatians 2:21 "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly"
John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Romans 10:14 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes."
James 2:10 "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it."
Galatians 3:10 "For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, 'Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.' "
Romans 3:19-28 "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
When the disciples ask Jesus
"What shall we do, that we might do the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on Him whom He hath sent." (John 6:28-29)
Thank you. I'm going to encourage some of our friends, including their children, who've struggled through two years of high school Logic, to listen to you. There is value in listening carefully, and thoughtfully. Thank you for trying to speak in kindness while you disagree with teachings that can be harmful.
Our family was blessed to travel to Israel and to learn from a guide who continues to minister there. I believe that understanding our Jewish heritage, studying the Old Testament, and learning about the feasts and Holy Days can enrich our understanding of the fulfillment through our Savior. As you clearly explain, understanding grace more fully, along with our heritage should NOT return us into fear of breaking the thousands of individual laws. That burden, when taken on fully, is more than most sensitive souls can bear. I can NOT earn my way to God - period. Hallelujah! He is Risen, indeed.
You say (starting at 23:31) that the Old Testament Law was never ever meant to be this universal thing that everybody would be obeying. I really appreciate the way you are addressing this, brother, but that statement is contrary to the Scripture.
We are told, in Isaiah and Micah, that the Torah will go forth from Zion and all nations will be taught it and be judged according to it. We also see that (in Zechariah) all nations will be called to Jerusalem to keep the feast of tabernacles in the Messianic age.
The Spirit of God even moves Solomon to tell us that this (fearing God and keeping
/guarding His commandments) is the whole duty of, not just the Jews and Israel, but of all mankind.
You are correct that it (the Torah) was not given to the Gentiles. It was given to Israel. They were to be a light to the nations. It did apply to Gentiles who were sojourning with Israel though. Believers in Jesus Christ are brought into the commonwealth of Israel (as you know) and receive the commission to be a light to the nations. To show them (the nations) the heart and ways of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To make disciples and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This light we display to the nations is Messiah Jesus.
A great shadow of this concept of a Gentile engrafted into Israel, who guards/loves God’s commandments and is a light, is Elijah. He was not a Jew, or a native born Israelite, but was tôwshâb, to-shawb'; or תֹּשָׁב tôshâb; (1 Kings 17:1), from H3427; a dweller but not outlandish [H5237]; especially (as distinguished from a native citizen [active participle of H3427] and a temporary inmate [H1616] or mere lodger [H3885]) resident alien:-foreigner, inhabitant, sojourner, stranger.
Also, the book of the Torah was lost in the temple. When it was found, restoration of God’s laws ensued. Could it be that the Torah is lost in the living temple that is the church? Just a thought, brother.
Again, I appreciate this video. I’m not trying to put you or what you are presenting down by my comment. I am just providing food for thought that is meant to be a blessing. There is obviously a lot to say about this topic and a firm but loving dialogue is necessary.
Thank you. Blessings in Jesus Christ to you. Abide in Him!
Isaiah 66 says that when He returns He is gonna slay many that eat swine's flesh...I kinda think if the law was "done away with" He wouldn't be so filled with wrath because of it. All those old testament abominations that were supposedly done away with are judged pretty harshly in prophecy that has not yet been fulfilled. I am assured of my salvation, but I'm not gonna use that as license to sin and commit abominations.
thank you for your reply your heart is awesome i had been caught in Hebrew roots movement and I really got caught up and believing that I can obey the whole law which is actually impossible and it threw away my attention from the deity of Christ it lessens his value. let me remind you John 8: 58 Jesus talked about before Abraham came to be I AM meaning that he is the father or one with him in the same so he alone has the authority and look here brother please John 13: if Christ is truly the Messiah who has the authority John 13 34 through 35 Jesus gives a command look it says A Renewed command I give to you that you love one another as I have loved you that you also love one another by this shall all know that you are my taught ones if you have love one for another the Hebrew Roots movement drew me away from Christ into my own righteousness which was never the point of the law the law was given to reveal a sinfull nature in men there is no law for one who lives in the spirit not according to the flesh just food for thought broham!!!!
Too many good things that came out of my Hebrew roots Journey though I definitely grew in knowledge of the scriptures I grew in my awareness of Prophecy it brought me to a greater understanding of my need for Christ and just exactly who he was that everything in the scriptures spoke about
There is some truth in it: God's original plan was for the Holy Spirit to guide us so that we followed the Law intuitively by the wisdom of God. This was the plan in the Garden. When man sinned, his flesh became corrupt, and thus the Holy Spirit couldn't work in him fully. This shall be restored with the New Jerusalem.
@@nathanyoung4914 Yes, I don't agree with Hebrew Roots for this reason. I believe that the movement in of its self is moving further and further away from biblical truth because they aren't grounded in messiah and they can show pride in themselves, it's not everyone who is Hebrew roots but what I see from within the movement itself. We must keep the commandments while keeping out faith grounded in Yeshua.
Thank you for this video. I have a tendency to feel “not enough” or unworthy of what Jesus has done for me. That makes me tend to lean more towards a works based means of salvation. movements like this are dangerous because people like me could be so easily sucked in. Thank you for your ministry!
Jesus words: Mat 19:17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
@orangeclawhammer777 even more important. If you believe He is God as I do. follow his recommendation to enter into the life
@@seriouslyiknowhowtoread amen.
@@edgaralejos8989 LOL, you used a proof text for the commandments nailed to the cross, obsolete, ready to vanish.
1. Verse 17 JESUS in a humorous way addmitted to being GOD the way to life is to keep the commandments. Fact one the 613 laws of Torah with the 10 included mad no promise of salvation. Only prolonged stay in GOD's land, blessing and protection. Obviously it is CHRIST 2 commandments and 1048 additional commands and instructions. Proof being the young man saying he has kept Torah in verse 20. Verse 21 JESUS gives a command that is new and not in the Torah being give up all you have and follow HIM. Verse 22 the young man findes the price of following CHRIST onto life is too high. Here is the clencher "with men this is impossible but for GOD all things are possible"In summary JESUS is GOD, the commandments are the New covenant lawsand only JESUS could keep Torah perfect and afford us deliverance from it's conviction and death.
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@@rickhuntling7338 please!!!, read some Torah, this is only ONE verse, there is many about sharing and caring for your neighbor. I can se the promise fullfilled in this man. Jesus saying something new.... HE IS THE TORAH, he came to confirm
Deuteronomy 15:4-8
New King James Version
4 except when there may be no poor among you; for the Lord will greatly bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you to possess as an inheritance- 5 only if you carefully obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe with care all these commandments which I command you today. 6 For the Lord your God will bless you just as He promised you; you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow; you shall reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over you.
Generosity to the Poor
7 “If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video Mike. I would not discourage people from keeping Gods commandments out of their love for Him and their desire to be obedient to Him. The following New Testament verses Matt.5:17-19, Matt.19:17, John 14:15, John 15:10, Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, Rom. 7:7, Rom. 7:12-14, Rom. 8:7, 1 Tim. 3:16-17, Heb. 8:10, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 3:4, 1 John 3:22-24, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John 6, Rev. 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22:14 and others seem to indicate that we should be following Gods commandments. We don't keep the commandments for salvation, but out of obedience, and do so with great joy. I am not sure how we can define what sin is without His commandments.
We live by God's holy commandments (all 10 of them) because we can do so ONLY by the power of Jesus Christ living in our lives by being indwelt with the Holy Spirit. We don't need to observe holy days and feast. God NEVER told us to this in the New Testament. Jesus is the final and ONLY sacrifice we need.
His Feasts are prophetic and 3 of them are yet to be fulfilled…
FEASTS: Yom Tr’uah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot (tabernacles)
“If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.”
Zechariah 14:18 NIV
@@ToOpen6seven sometimes actions speak louder than words, wouldn't you agree?
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@@MMH-2129 Jesus said it is finished - EVERYTHING! So you are wrong! Jesus fulfilled everything! You are deceived!
I came to Torah because in my 39 years on this earth I saw, heard and felt nothing but BAD FRUIT coming from the various denominations I sampled. Sure everybody says well thats not all churches.... yes it is! They find out dirt on you they shrink back and the nose goes straight up in the air because they cant associate with people who used to be drunks and drug addicts and whores and felons and on and on. I had made up my mind I was never going to subject myself or my kids to that ever again. Finally one day, after a friend of mine begged me for a year to visit her family, I walked through the doors and INSTANT peace and love came over me. Then I had the privilege of partaking in Sukkot with them. I knew that this was my family. I belonged here with these people. Then we watched The Way documentary and I fell to pieces. So to the anti torah people, dont tell me how wrong I am and your reasons why, because I came from the ash heap of the modern day church and NOW I am living in a season of miracles that I have never witnessed before. He has heaped and continues to heap blessing upon blessing on me and my family.
Another thing: nobody forced me to come to Torah. My heart had to be prepared in a way that only Elohim can do. As is with everybody. That is the reason prodding and shaming and pointing fingers and judging never works. Have a blessed day.
What I believe is Yeshua came and paid the penalty for my transgressions but .... it is a JOY to me to follow the 10 commandments, celebrate the feast days to honor the Creator, and wear my tzit zit. If you dont choose to do it then dont. We dont have to answer for each others lives in the end. Only the Most High. 🙌🏽
Bad fruit indeed
@@TheTeganOsmondChannel Can you provide the link to this channel you mentioned and what do you mean this is way bigger issue than whether you believe/practice Torah or not?
so you migrated from a carnal church to legalism. paul said in galations 5:4 you who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from christ, you have fallen from grace. In other words you have denied christ. Read also galatians 5:6 the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. I have been to many churchs in the 46 years as a christian and I have never seen the bad behaviour you describe. I know it happens, but it also happens in every single organization on earth, including the blasphemous movement you have joined. here's pauls curse on your false leaders . galatians 5:12 as for those agitaters , I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves. Also remember proverbs 14:12 there is a way that seems right to a man. but it ends in death. People all over the world say they felt peace and love going to certain events that are not even christian. feelings are not to be the indicator of what is true or false.
@@racerx4152 unfathomably based.
Quote: I came to Torah because in my 39 years on this earth I saw, heard and felt nothing but BAD FRUIT coming from the various denominations I sampled.
Claims the churches all have bad fruit [sinful deeds] and does not want to admit she herself is a sinner, instead she pretends to be righteous and without sin, very typical of the pride of the hebrew rooters.
Quote: Sure everybody says well thats not all churches.... yes it is! They find out dirt on you they shrink back and the nose goes straight up in the air because they cant associate with people who used to be drunks and drug addicts and whores and felons and on and on.
Becky claims it's all churches and offers no proof, just says we must trust what she is saying. Becky then contradicts herself, first she claimed all Christians do is sin and produce bad fruit, then she says Christians don't associate with drunkards and drug addicts i.e. sinners. So which is it? Christians are all vile sinners with bad fruits? or Christians avoid being involved with drunkards and drug addicts?
And Becky ends by boasting about how she wears tzit zit, and keeps the feast days [she doesn't keep the feast days, they can't be kept with offering animal sacrifices and grain sacrifices]
Becky is a Judaizer who has bragged about how holy she thinks she is, when she has sinned all through her post including bearing false witness!
I’ve been watching 119 for years and although they do a good job going through the scriptures I whole heartily agree that they “trap” people into believing what they teach about obeying the law. I think one good point that defeats their teaching is that Abraham was called righteousness without the law and uncircumcised. The law came 400 years later. If it was possible before the law to be called righteous by only having faith in what God said then today it is possible.
Abraham was called righteous because he both believed & obeyed YHVH. His obedience was the exercising of his faith, & we don't keep the Mosaic law, but the 10 Commandments should be obeyed because they teach us how to love both YHVH & others, the 2 great Commandments that Y'shua spoke of. We are part of the Kingdom of YHVH, & no Kingdom can run smoothly without laws! We are not saved by keeping the law, we are only saved by grace through faith in Y'shua. Keeping his law is sanctification & how we love & worship Him in response to all He has done for us. Y'shua said, "I have not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it", & "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled". Y'shua obeyed the 10 Commandments as well as the Sabbath. Scripture never changed the Sabbath, the Catholic Church did when they mixed Christianity w/ paganism, & they say that their authority is higher than both Scripture & YHVH. This
was prophesied in Daniel concerning the Antichrist who would seek to change laws & times! The Catholic Church took out the 2nd Commandment about graven images so they could worship their idols, & split the 10th commandment into two, & changed the Sabbath to Sunday bc that's when pagans worshiped, & they also popularized their pagan holidays including Christmas & Easter which YHVH hates! We need to love what YHVH loves & hate what He hates!
@@amyspringstead2208 So you keep the Ten Commandments?
I thibk they had the law before because of Noah but Noah sons 2 of them and decendents eventually forsuke all the things Noah thought them
@@giovanni545 “I think”….I’m sorry but that isn’t what a very careful reading of the scriptures show. We are told why the law came to be. There are two reasons listed in the scriptures.
The first says it was added because of sin.
The second says it was there like a school master, to tutor the Jews until the Messiah came. Once the Messiah came and taught them, there is now no need of a school master.
They and we, by extension, have graduated.
@@TaylorKWH I don’t know what a “Pharisees spirit” is.
Can you show me where that is in the Bible?
The change in the law is speaking about ceremonial priesthood duties
yes
Not Scriptural.
@@57andstillkicking have you read Hebrews 7? Peter warned in 2 Peter 3 about people twisting scripture
Restore the Kosher Gospel
That is all about Jesus bringing in the new! With a new priest there needs to be a new law. The law brought nothing to perfection so Jesus had to come. How are you not seeing that in Hebrews? It is clear as day. Read the whole thing in context.
All of Hebrews is about entering into the sabbath rest of Jesus, how the new covenant is better, etc.
@Bubert Rose Hebrews 7 does not speak about the whole Torah in general, but it's only talking about the old testament sacrificial system. The old testament sacrificial law made nothing perfect, and that is why Yahshuwa came to die for us. I also understand that the Torah cannot make us perfect, it only tells us what sin is and makes us set apart. And just so you know, Yahshuwa's rest does not replace the Sabbath day, but Yahshuwa's rest is simply a spiritual rest. The Sabbath day is a whole day of rest to worship Yahweh. And yes, the New covenant is way better than the old because the new one cleans your sins, well the old one only covers them.
Okay so sin is transgression of the law, you don't want someone to take the most clear and literal meaning of that verse. I'm supposed to think sin is transgression of righteousness? Or sin is transgression of Christ's law? Where does it say "the Law" isn't "Christ's Law"? Are you sure they are different things and if so what scripture states that plainly?
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The law of Christ is the law that Jesus gave. It even goes on to state what that law is in 1Jhn 3....
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 ¶ And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
That’s what the law of Christ is. Sin is transgressing this law.
Gal 6; 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
What did Jesus say?.....
Matt 7: 12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Jhn 15: 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
That’s what 1Jhn 3 is speaking about....
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
16 ¶ Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
Hope that helps.
God bless
Evan U and who defines HOW we love? Satan has his own way of defining how to love. Are we to assume that Jesus has a new way of teaching His Father’s ways? He said the words I speak are not mine. He was speaking the Father’s message as prophesied in Deuteronomy 18:15-19. That prophecy is about Jesus. He is the prophet like Moses that the Father promised. The Father has not changed. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus brought the Father’s message and demonstrated it. He also put an end to the curse of the Law for those who are contrite/penitent. He redeemed us from the curse of the Law not the blessings of obeying it. Deuteronomy 28 has two lists. You want to be redeemed from the promises and blessings of obeying your Heavenly Father’s ways? Do not misunderstand Jesus. He never said what your interpretation teaches. Careful careful careful.
Actually that doesn't help and here's why:
1. Jesus didn't give us a "different" law or different commandments. To say that He did is to say He is a sinner! If Jesus added too or took away from Gods commandments then that would make Him a sinner according to Dueturonomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it."
He never said that the commandments He gave us were a "new" LAW. IF He did than the Jewish people of his day would have considered him a false prophet based on Deuteronomy 13:1-5. What many Christians say today about Jesus "changing the law" or "bringing a new law" is the reason why many Jewish people won't accept Christ as their Messiah. We have unknowingly been a factor in their rejection of the Messiah. This is a link to a video where a Jewish man who believes is Christ explains this. th-cam.com/video/ULN5ymIxtVI/w-d-xo.html
Deuteronomy 13:1-5
"If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’-which you have not known-‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.God said don't except anyone even if they perform miracles but come and change his law.
The commandments Jesus gave us were reiterations of the Commandments given in the law. To say anything different would make Him a false prophet or sinner.
2. Jesus plainly said "My doctrine is not Mine but His who sent Me" in John 7:16
Proverbs 4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.
Doctrine is the Greek word "didache" (Strong's G1322) and means teaching, instructions.
Law is the Hebrew word "Towrah" (Strong's H3384) and means instructions, directions, precepts, and statues.
Jesus said His teachings and instructions were NOT His own. They were God's teachings and instructions, and God has said that He will not alter or change the thing that has gone out of His mouth. He gives us good doctrine(teachings) and tells us not to forsake His law(instructions).
3. Jesus told His disciples to keep the law in Matthew 23. He commanded them to "observe" whatever was read from Moses' Seat. Only the law was read from Moses' Seat. Then in the Great Commission He told them to make disciples of every nation and teach THEM to OBSERVE EVERYTHING He commanded them. If Jesus commanded them to observe the law than they were to teach others to observe the law. Acts 15 is addressing if Gentiles need to keep the law to be saved, which of course they do not.
4. Loving God and loving others is defined in the law. If your spouse gives you a list of everything they like and want you to do for them to show them love, is it loving to ignore their list and make up your own list instead? If your spouse loves chocolate cake but for their birthday you make them Carrot cake, is that really loving them the way they would want? Or course not!
God gave us a list of things that He wants us to do to show love for Him and love for others. That list IS the law, and when we do it in faith and in love for God and others we are doing His Will. It isn't to get anything for ourselves, it isn't for salvation, it's simply because we love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. We don't need to guess what to do, God gave us clear instructions for what to do. And Christ came down and perfectly lived out the law in faith and love as our example. He showed us how to keep the law with the proper motivation of the heart.
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Love is defined in scripture. You don’t have to guess.
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Yeah. God gave a new covenant with new commandments through Jesus.
Heb 7: 11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 8: 6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 ¶ For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 ¶ In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
It had vanished. God destroyed the temple. If He wanted you to keep the old covenant He wouldn’t have destroyed the means by which you must keep it.
I searched to see who could tell me about Hebrew Roots because one of my long time friends has been led to join this group. She insists that the Bible I have (NASB RYRIES) (and I do search multiple translations) has been changed to the point of being wrong….as well as ESV and KJV and most others- that scripture was mistranslated and the Hebrew words mean different things than what the Bible says. Since I only know a smattering of Hebrew words and their meanings, I did not have enough knowledge to refute everything she said. I am so thankful you had a video about it. Granted , you published it three years ago, but I was thankful you logically refuted some of the confusing things my friend told me. And I know God is not the author of confusion. Thank you for some of your answers to the questions in the chat. That was very helpful.
Kinda feel there is more to this that u haven't researched yet
Hopefully, all of us will continually grow in knowledge and wisdom. I'm always correcting people in my head, rarely does Father prompt me to correct anymore, depending on my relationship with the person. But I always pray that all of us in the Body of Christ would more accurately understand His Word, and praying specifically for the person I believe is wrong. I'm always finding myself with little errors and misunderstandings of the text. Did you know, for example, that 2000 years ago hair was considered part of the genitalia, hence head coverings for women.
He is so off that it is a shame
Exactly
@@deborahszafraniec4829 Do you have a source for that claim about head coverings?
He obviously does not recognize the difference between a Jew and a child of Israel.
You said “we’re not israel and we should not act like we are” umm, is everyone aware that the multitude that came out of Egypt was mixed? How about all the “strangers and sojourner” that were to keep the laws if they lived with the Israelites and believed in God? .. 1 John 2:4-6 sums it up brilliantly “The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God is truly made perfect. We know that we are in Him by this- 6 whoever claims to abide in Him must walk just as He walked” ... If Jesus is God, and God/Jesus gave the commandments at Sinai and even before that.. why would there be some “doing away” or making requirements void? There is no scripture that claims to make the law void for believers in Jesus.. in fact, the scripture clearly says that if you don’t keep them, and you claim to know God, then your a liar.. Jesus commandments are the same as Gods commandments because they are one. If they aren’t one, then that makes Jesus a false prophet according to Deuteronomy 13. Read Tim Heggs articles concerning these things from “Torah resource institute “ a very solid scholar trained in the biblical languages and graduated seminary .
The church is not Israel but grafted into Jesus like the natural branches. The strangers and sojourners weren't forced to convert but were under Israel's civil laws, which gave them rights.
Bible History Science that’s not what the text says, it says a “mixed multitude” came out of Egypt..they were given the same laws between the natural born and the sojourner .. it does not say “these are suggested laws for gentiles” the Hebrew implies and God commands that if you are a believer and you want to follow God, these are the rules you are to live by.. we see the same exact thing with King David’s great grandmother Ruth, Abraham kept Gods commandments, lot baked unleavened bread, Noah made sacrifices Cain and able made sacrifices..none of these people were Jewish.. none of those are from the tribe of Judah or from any of the other tribes. You pointed out “Civil” laws..lol I see this error all the time, so tell me, is keeping the sabbath civil, ceremonial, or moral? It is all 3 ..and almost every single commandment is at least 2 out of 3 in that made up unbiblical division of Gods commandments. It is much easier to read the scripture for what it says as opposed to having to break out commentary and dance around it.
2 Regular Guys:Biblical Research
I agree that Gentiles could be partakers of Israel and the promises along with the blessings in the old covenant by taking part of the Old Covenant. This is why so many tried to proselytize the Gentiles. All Jews knew this and had Gentiles in their synagogue (not in the temple because that was forbidden until they were converted) teaching them of the ways and the process of conversion.
So if the same process occurs for the new covenant, then why is it a mystery that Gentiles could partake in it?...
Eph 3: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Why would the Jews get jealous of Gentiles coming in of the same process that they had been promoting (proselytizing) was still in effect?.....
Rom 11: 11 ¶ I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Deu 32: 21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Please explain. Thanks.
Evan U actually there is no jealousy from Jews from pagan Christianity who don't keep Torah. Why would they be jealous when they (Christians) reject Torah?
Evan U very good questions and I can give u at least one example. If you look at the Maccabean revolt , one of the things that happened after the revolt and taking back the temple was an effort to preserve an identity of the Jewish Israeli people’s, there was forced circumcision throughout the land to maintain an identity and this became such a huge issue that instead of following the scriptures and letting God handle things , they sought to take matters into their own hands. We see this all the way up and beyond the first century and even today there is a push to keep this identity ..but what is interesting is that God specifically said that he would preserve a remnant , like Paul said how not everyone who claims to be Jewish or yahudine is truly yahudine .. nationalistic identity does not grant salvation , that relies solely on faith in God. So the crux and answer to these question is fear. Weather be by losing identity or some other form.
Given the recent issue with the Covington catholic students can you please do a video on the black Hebrew Israelites soon, I think it’s important that Christians are aware of this group.
Vocab Malone has done/is doing great work on this group.
Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: (Ruddy means reddish as in blush)
Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as SNOW snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, (Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. The world hates white Christians especially it seems today.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh lol
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBThLOL a racist pastor, not many of those around. Thats a good thing. Arguing the color of skin didn't fare well for Mariam. She became white as snow in a bad way. Btw, Be thee warned.
What's your point Bob?.
Brother it would be awesome if you posted the Bible verses and other sources you quote in the description of your videos. Many times I’m driving or otherwise hand tied and can’t take notes. And while I do often rewatch your videos, it would be an additional blessing if you did. I love your work, heart and devotion to truth and humility. Even when I disagree with a stance you take, I take pleasure in calling you my brother!
During the time of Moses, anyone who wanted to follow God were allowed to follow Him. Those who left Egypt saw the works of God and left with Israel and went into the dessert with them. God also said that the same Law is to be for the Israelites and the sojourners. So, I disagree with the idea that it was only for Israel.
He literally addresses this at the hour mark
The law was given to moses and the Israelites but we all ere guilty of it no man or woman can enter into heaven by the law it is the shed blood of christ that saves us not the working of the law we caint keep them all and when you break one you've broken all of them so that's why we needed a savior to take away our sins and nailed them to the cross it is finished the lord said.
@Child of The Covenant you probably have broken one today you have to keep everyone of them but no man can and it will do you no good because your works are not worthy like jesus blood only he saves ,not us.
@Child of The Covenant when you have love in your hearts you have fulfilled the law not the works of the law
@Child of The Covenant Romans:13 8-13
Exo 12:49 - One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
Num 15:16 - One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Mat 10:6 - But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:24 - But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jas 2:17 - Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone
Jas 2:20 - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:26 - For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also
Strangers and sojourners were under the civil laws, which conferred rights on them as if they were Israelites. If they had been under the whole law, that would mean they had converted and would not be strangers and sojourners but Israelites, making nonsense of this verse. It would also mean Israel forced people to convert for simply passing thru their lands, which is pure nonsense.
Chris Koehn
What type of works was James referring to?.....
Ja 2: 14 ¶ What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
It seems like it’s the same works that Jesus taught and the ones He would judge the nations by. (Matt 25:31-46)
Don’t get the required works mixed up between the two covenants. Remember, the new covenant is not like the old covenant. The old covenant has vanished away.
Take care
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Could a stranger, alien, sojourner, convert and become a full Israelite? Would that be an example of someone that really loved Yahweh?
Also were do you see it say civil law. It says ONE law for both the native and the stranger.
Shalom/Peace
Michael Deo , define “full Israelite”.
Regarding whether a convert “really loved Yahweh” or not, well that’s at the heart of the commandments and was synonymous with keeping the law of Moses. A person loved God by doing works, by eating this and not that, and touching this but not that. But if you would not, then you were cutoff from Israel and sometimes executed.
But that was under Moses’ Old Covenant. Under Jesus’ New Covenant believers are filled with, sealed and led by the Holy Spirit, and we are to follow the royal law in the spirit instead of hundreds of mosaic laws in the flesh. Whereas the old law said don’t murder or else you will be executed, the new law says don’t hate or else you will be chastened by his Spirit. And it’s the Holy Spirit that works in individuals to will and do God’s wishes, which is why Paul could observed that one person eats what they like, while some weaker brothers kept strict diets (because Jews had done so under the law and some could not fully accept their new liberty in Christ).
All of that exemplifies the fact that Hebrew Roots is the same works-salvation legalism that Paul preached against. And Hebrew Roots teachers quote the verses about how a person who loves God keeps his commandments (which they interpret as the law of Moses, even in the New Testament) as a litmus test for distinguishing between those who are saved and not saved. The reason why they contradict themselves by simultaneously claiming it’s not works salvation is because they need that stance so they can interpret the apostles clear rejection of teaching Gentiles to get circumcised and keep the law as legalism.
That’s compartmentalized thinking, and one way they manage it is teaching that a person is saved first and then keeps the law, but if someone doesn’t keep the law, it means they weren’t really saved in the first place.
Regarding civil laws, do you see that some laws are civil and not sacred and that some things in the law are moral vs ceremonial? I ask because many people in Hebrew Roots never learned this for some reason and so deny it. In fact, you denied this elsewhere when I pointed out that eating pork is not a sin, except for Israelites when they were under the law of Moses, and only then because God put it into the law. But as Paul taught, what goes into the body does not really defile a man but what comes out.
Exodus 12:37 Then the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides children.
12:38
A mixed multitude went up with them also, and flocks and herds-a great deal of livestock.
Exodus 12:49
“One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you.”
Are you in Israel?
Jeremiah 31:31-34 New International Version (NIV)
31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”
Old covenant is gone. New covenant replaces it.
@Karen Soo amen!
The old covenant was all about what we shall do. The new covenant is all about what God shall do since we are incapable of doing it and the old covenant testified to that.
I am so glad I came across this! I have seen this movement becoming more prominent on women's Christian Instagram. Something I have noticed, and here is just a couple of things:
1) There is a lot of throwing around the accusation of "anti-semitism" if you reject the HBM. I won't say this is MOST people in this movement, but its a popular theme on social media.
2) There is indeed a contradiction in teaching. They say the believe that salvation is based on grace alone, and not by works. But then at the same time, say you have to follow the law or you aren't saved.
3) There is boasting in their works. You can tell a messianic Christian/ Hebrew Roots by their handle or bio, generally something like "Following the narrow way" or lots of talk like "I obey" or "I keep His commandments".
1) This is the first time hearing that. It seems strange to accuse people of "anti-Semitism" while not being Semitic because that term refers to ethnicity only.
2) Judaism teaches that you need to follow laws in order to be saved, whereas HBM is a protestant Christian group that claims that the whole bible is applicable. We believe in salvation based on grace alone. God cannot let us off the hook for our sin based on good works. It would be like telling a judge in court for murder to pardon us because we've donated a lot. We are guilty and God is fully just. However, Jesus paid our sentence in full for us so that we are pardoned without God neglecting his justice. After we are saved through grace by faith we are transformed and have the Holy Spirit who guides us to desire the will of God. If we truly desire to do the will of God, we should make every effort to learn what his perfect will is and not make excuses. Good works do not save us but are evidence that we have been saved and that the Holy Spirit is within us.
"If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray to the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you." John 14:15-18
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:17-20
This is how you can be sure that you know Jesus:
"My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. 1 John 3:1-6
3) This is clearly wrong and sinful. Hypocrites exist in every denomination though. Test everything my friend, 1 Thessalonians 5:21.
4) I think the reason that many in the HBM focus on the Torah which is guidelines, instructions, and commandments from God is because it is neglected by many and it is their calling. Hear what Paul writes concerning this:
"For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free-and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. For in fact the body is not one member but many.
If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. And if they were all one member, where would the body be?
But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way."
1 Corinthians 12:12-31
Shalom
Actually, with all due respect to you, what's "heartbreaking" is hearing you say that you are glad to come across this video. Mike is a charlatan, and he's leading people like you astray. May I kindly offer you, and any other supporters of Mike, this challenge: Can you show me any other instance of where something the Scriptures call EVIL (profaning the Sabbath) and an ABOMINATION (eating the flesh of scavengers) are now an acceptable practice for Christians to do? If you can't, that ought to be a clue that Mike is dead wrong, because he is.
Romans 6:15 NKJV What then? Shall we sin [transgress the Law] because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
@@sourmilkministries9445 "actually, what's heartbreaking..." so it's not heartbreaking when a grandma can't see her grandkids because her daughter won't let her, due to the fact that they don't see eye to eye on Christmas? Can't say I agree. You seem convinced in your mindset (when you say Mike is dead wrong), and lacking humility/prideful/arrogant (shows me a lack of fruit - the Bible says you will know them by their fruit). I will pass on this conversation.
@@abeautifulmoment2714 Yeah, that's funny. You talk about how the Bible says that we shall know them by their fruit, and then you turn a blind eye to the FACT that Mike teaches people to commit EVIL (profaning the Sabbath), and ABOMINATIONS (eating the flesh of scavengers). But yet, it seems that you have no problem in supposing that someone is "lacking humility/prideful/arrogant", all because they boldly expose charlatans like Mike, exactly as God instructs us to do!
"Cry aloud, spare not; Lift up your voice like a trumpet; Tell My people their transgression, And the house of Jacob their sins. (Isaiah 58:1 NKJV)
I’m starting to see this movement everywhere. They stick out like sore thumbs. They seem to come off better than other Christians. They make it very clear they don’t celebrate Christmas, Easter, etc…and curse everyone who does, they make it known they follow all commandments and act sinless. Can’t argue with those people. It seems truly believing and trusting Jesus is no longer enough.
He is clothed in a garment sprinkled with blood. His name is called “The Word of God.”
Revelation 19:13
@JJ France What does this say about someone who claims to know Jesus but does not keep the commandments?
1 John 2:3-4 (NIV)
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
How did Jesus tell us to get eternal life in the following verse?
Matthew 19:17 (NIV)
"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments."
Why do you ignore what Jesus taught in favour of man made traditions?
Mark 7:9 (NIV)
And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!”
@JJ France Matthew 19:17 (NIV)
"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS."
There's only one set of commandments any of them knew about when Jesus said that. There's no guesswork about it.
1 John 2:3-4 (NIV)
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
In 1 John above, Jesus just got done talking sinning, which is the breaking of God's laws. So the commands he speaks of are the commandments everyone at that time knew about, the only ones.
Matthew 7:23 (NKJV)
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
And this verse is crystal clear. If you practice lawlessness, Jesus will reject you. I think you are being disingenuous when you try and be clever and imply there was some other sort of laws! Jesus constantly attacked the temple priests because they broke the laws they demanded everyone else keep, and in fact, Jesus stated that we are to obey those priests, but not do as they do, because they didn't keep the commandments themselves.
Over and over and over again we are told to keep the commandments. In fact, Paul instructed us to "search the scriptures" to make certain what we are taught is true, and the ONLY scriptures that existed when He said that was the so called "old testament" (nothing OLD about it). That alone tells us that we can get the truth from it. Peter taught a Eunuch about Jesus from the book of Isaiah, I wonder how many can do that? Also, if you want to refer to the commandments JESUS GAVE, well, read John chapter 1, Jesus IS the God of the old testament who gave the commandments to Moses. This is why Jesus stated that no man has ever seen or talked to God (the Father) because it was in fact, JESUS they talked to, otherwise known as "the word". Jesus is also the One that created everything that was created. So... "Jesus'" commands are the very same ones we read in the scriptures given to Moses.
I think your attitude is summed up nicely in Mark...
Mark 7:8 (NIV)
“You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
@@NeilRoy
Can you even remember the last time you sinned? I just want to know is there a certain point in time when sin is so far back in the past that you can't even remember the last time? I probably break at least a one of the ten everyday, when did you learn how to not break them? It seems that no matter how much i try i still mess up. JESUS made it much more offensive because He took the commandment of murder and made it just being angry, then He took adultery and made it to even look at a woman with lust you have broken the commandments.
When did you quit looking and getting angry at people?
@@thecommandmentoffaith1755 Oh sure, I have sinned, none of us are perfect. The important thing is that we are trying to obey. It is our motive that God looks at. if we are striving to obey Him, and when we slip up, we hate ourselves for it and we return to Him and ask for His forgiveness than if we really mean it and we are truly sorry, than He says that He will abundantly pardon us. "abundantly" means "abundantly". Also note that in the following scripture that God says that "if you RETURN to him...", one cannot return to Him if you were not with him at one point and time. Check this out...
Isaiah 55:7 (NKJV)
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord, and He will have mercy on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon.
...the big difference is that you are trying to obey Him and you return to Him and ask for mercy when you slip up. As opposed to someone who doesn't try to obey AT ALL, and doesn't feel they need forgiveness at all when they do slip up.
This was one of the points that Jesus raised about the temple priests. They taught the law, and Jesus instructed us to do as they say (so he never had a problem with the law, as some falsely claim), but Jesus told the priests that prostitutes and tax collectors (who were thieves often times) would be in the kingdom before the priests. And the reason He gave was that they believed who He was and they were sorry for what they did and they sought forgiveness from Him while priests broke the law but wouldn't admit to doing it and did not seek forgiveness.
So strive to obey, and when you slip up as we all do, return to God, seek mercy and forgiveness from Him and He said that He will abundantly pardon you. The key is that you honestly try to obey, that you try to learn from your mistakes and you recognize the inputs that caused you to sin and then you avoid them and try not to repeat them again.
That is what your Bible states. Belief in Jesus is certainly not a license to break God's laws as I already quoted in this thread. Satan believes in God, Satan believes in Jesus, in fact, he has met them personally and knows them better than we do, but is he saved? Not at all, because he is disobedience and refuses to obey God. So who do you follow? Jesus who obeyed God, or Satan who refuses to? Even if you're uncertain, just ponder this... God has never punished anyone for trying to obey Him. But He has put people to death for disobedience.
God bless.
JJ France - Yeshua/Jesus elevates the Word, just as He was elevated on the cross. He followed the Law of the Father and lifted it up to the next level. As followers of Yeshua, we should walk as He walked...blameless before the Father...
When we fail, Yeshua is there as our example and the Holy Spirit is thee to help us back into God’s Way...through His everlasting Grace and Lovingkindness...🙏🏻
The Word is the revelation of God, Jesus is the revelation of God, Jesus is the word. OK!
Bob and Eric HAlf Hour Show
Jesus is the Word made flesh.
Heb 1: 1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
The new covenant was spoken through Jesus. Read what Jesus commanded His apostles. It was given to them to know the secrets of the kingdom. They were commissioned to give His message to the world.
God bless
This, as mike mentioned, is an equivocation fallacy. Both the scriptures and Jesus can be a revelation of God, but in different senses. The Bible is not God. Jesus is God. These things are not the same.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
Only Jesus Christ is the way to Heaven and be saved from hell.
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 5:8
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
Have you believed in your heart that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, was buried, and rose from the grave? You must believe that Jesus is the one who paid for your sins and rose again to be saved from eternal damnation and instead go to heaven
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7
@Moshe Natsarim Jesus is God. God is Eternal meaning no start no end before everything there is God. God made all from nothing Jesus is begotten when the spirit plants the seed inside Mary so they he may be born into a mortal body so that he can come under the law and run the race of life for us he is God but he is also of God. Jesus tells you before Abraham I AM God says us not me John 1:1 is telling you who Jesus is where and when. Then add time has no hold on God you want to trip out there is a chance you could be your own guardian angel you died made it to heaven time is different you can watch yourself be born you can work to fight spiritual battles for yourself while you hear your silly living self ask what has god done for me well now you know probably won't be the case but i like that idea because there is more to your life then you can see bit like heads and tails of a coin we live heads then we die and watch over ourselves tails. Your question is less of a question and more a smashing together of assumptions.
If the law was not important then why did Jesus tell His disciples to observe the law in Matthew 23:1-3?
the claim is that is not that the law is not important, but that it pointed to Jesus is the Fulfillment of the law and the expansion of it that is why Jesus can say it is not what goes into you that defiles you but what comes out of you, and the such
But Jesus said I didn't come to abolish the law. He didn't say I'm the fulfillment of the Law and after I go to the cross the law will be done away with.
+Sanctifiedby Truth
Your mistaken Sir, in Matthew chapter 5 thatis exactly what Jesus does....and Second, Hebrews 8:13 directly answers your second question :) ....Man, read the entire Bible; its beautiful bro☝
The old covenant (aka agreement) with Israel was made obsolete. If your wife is unfaithful to you you can make your marriage covenant obsolete by divorcing her. And then you can make a new covenant with a new woman, but do the marriage terms change? Is she not supposed to also love you and be faithful to you? Your mixing up what a "covenant is" and what the "terms of the covenant" are. I've read Hebrews several times. The fault with the covenant was with THEM! Hebrews 8:8. They were an adulterous wife, Israel was unfaithful to God so He divorced her, then came and died for her and the world, and now He makes a new covenant with her and the world thru faith in Christ. But the Law is simply the instructions God gave us for how we love Him and love other people.
Sanctifiedby Truth
Why did Jesus say that the law in Matt 23:1-4 was a heavy burden grievous to be born?
Matt 23: 1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Please answer that question for me.
The answer to your question is that the new covenant hadn’t yet begun.....
Matt 26: 27 ¶ And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Heb 9: 16 ¶ For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
So Jesus told those who were under the old covenant to keep the old covenant. He privately spoke to His apostles about the new covenant....
Matt 13: 10 ¶ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 ¶ He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
34 ¶ All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
The message of the kingdom was given to the multitudes by the apostles after they witnessed the resurrection and were given the Holy Spirit who would remind them all things that Jesus taught them....
Jhn 14: 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Matt 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Jesus commanded His Apostles to take His message to the world. Read what Jesus spoke to them in private to know what that message was (sermon on the mount, upper room discourse)
I’ll also add that it was prophesied that whoever was faithful in the Old Covenant, would find rest/healing in the new covenant through Jesus.
We can look at that aspect if you like.
Look forward to hearing your response as to why Jesus has such negative things to say about the law.
God bless.
Starting with Abraham’s sacrificing his son as an allegory/example of application of the truth was just brilliant. Especially seeding the idea with your quip about the replacement lamb.
its a misleading comparison. it's just common sense to understand that God's personal command to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac was an example of something that expired once obeyed, but something such as "thou shalt not murder" is eternal and not just used up the first time you feel like murdering (where the second time you can go ahead and murder)
WWJD??? Torah which equals Jesus. He's Jewish, born Jewish and will return as one. He isn't a Christian and never was. He "fulfilled" the law meant He fulfilled all that the Scriptures, prophets writings,
stated about Him. Can't have grace workout the law. In order to understand grace you have to have the law. And you think Easter and Christmas is something Jesus would observe?? Lol Okay. All the feast are BIBLICAL and not only for the Jews. I think Christians should be more concerned about all the divorce in church from those who profess to be Christians. The church is so messed up and looks like the world.
Ellie nelson
No. Torah pointed to Jesus. He is the realization of those laws. The Passover pointed to Jesus who was slain for us that the angel of death might Passover us. He is our Sabbath rest from the works of the law. He is the first fruits unto God. He tabernacles among us.
Jesus said that not one jot can pass from the law until all be fulfilled. Not one until all. That’s all or nothing.
He then went on in the same chapter to say that the divorce and remarriage law is done away with and he gave a new commandment concerning it.
So if we don’t sacrifice animals and aren’t to put away our wives because of some uncleaness found in her or stone witches, homosexuals, Sabbath breakers and rebellious children, then He must have fulfilled ALL of the law.
He did not do away with the divorce and remarriage commandments. You sir are unlearned and unstable and you are turning Christ into a sinner or false prophet so say He did away with any commandments
Where does it say the feasts are not just for Jews?
Jesus is the Dabar or Logos (Word). Torah or Nomos is the Law. Oy! - Jeremiah 5:20-21
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Matt 5; 31 ¶ It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Deu 24: 1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
I didn’t see your response until just now. I hope that helps.
God bless
I'm only halfway through, but your video is really good. I was in Hebrew roots for 8 years, left last spring.
You are doing an amazing job.
Thanks for making the video.
why you left?
I wondered too. Hope you are OK. Blessings.
You are making a huge mistake. I don't know what part of the Hebrew roots you were in. But the answer is in that All Scripture applies. Yahusha is our Messiah, and Shaul was His chosen to work amongst the nations where the Northern tribes of Yisrael were scattered. Salvation is not found in the church or Christianity. Because it is not Scriptural. Was Yisrael still slaves to Egypt when the Father Yahuah set them free?
The church wants you to believe you are saved as a sinner. If that is so, then Yahusha failed in His mission. He said He came to set us free from the bondage of sin and death. We are free from sin, if you want to remain a sinner, then be a christian. But Yahusha can only live in a sinless person, because He CAN NOT dwell with darkness.
1Jn 1:5 And this is the message which we have heard from Him and announce to you, that Elohim is light and in Him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and are not doing the truth.
Grace is not a license to sin, BUT the ability to be free from sin. And this we achieve by the Power of Yahusha in us. Here are the requirements for salvation.
Obedience is key to everlasting life:
We are not saved by faith alone:
Jas 2:24 You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
We must have Faith, but on itself is not sufficient.
Joh 3:16 “For Elohim so loved the world that He gave His only brought-forth Son, so that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but possess everlasting life.
We need to believe in His Name, belief in the wrong Name will not do!
Joh 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not judged, but he who does not believe is judged already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only brought-forth Son of Elohim.
Works on its own is not sufficient, but we need works:
Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
We can not be saved without obedience, because we receive His Spirit through obedience:
Act 5:32 “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Elohim has given to those who obey Him.”
Love for Yahuah will instil the obedience which will encompass all required to be saved.
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
If we love Him WE WILL OBEY HIS COMMANDS. This will be the cause for us to be saved:
Heb 5:9 And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting deliverance to all those obeying Him,
So if you truly love Him you will seek the reason to obey rather than seek the reason to disobey His Commands.
If you want eternal life? Obey His Commands:
Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One - Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
Can you please provide me with additional info, books (extremely biblical ones that uses KJV of the Bible) -- when and how did the light bulb come on for you -- other than the most important reason -- by God opening your eyes.
@@jacobtack2258 You are part of a false cult!! Just stick with the Holy scripture (KJV) JESUS, CHRIST, OUR MESSIAH paid it ALL!! There is no need to fall back into the
Galatians 4:8-11 & 21-31 KJV
8. Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10. Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
21. Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22. For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath any more children than she which hath an husband.
28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Deuteronomy 6:4-5 The Shema. Moses told them to love God with all their heart and their neighbor.
Hear o Israel, the Lord your God is one Lord.....that's the shema.
Cla Gle - keep reading....
““Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one [the only God]! You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and mind and with all your soul and with all your strength [your entire being]. These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be [written] on your heart and mind. You shall teach them diligently to your children [impressing God’s precepts on their minds and penetrating their hearts with His truths] and shall speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up. And you shall bind them as a sign on your hand (forearm), and they shall be used as bands (frontals, frontlets) on your forehead. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.”
Deuteronomy 6:4-9 AMP
And keep reading....🙏🏻
I wish I had discovered this channel 10 years ago. It might have saved me about three years spinning out with Jim Staley’s crowd.
Halleljuah! The prodigal comes home!
My friend, Yeshua quoted the Torah that is now popular and known as the two greatest commandments. The shema first, Deuteronomy 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18.
Christians want to follow the 10 ("first") commandments yet disregard the other 603( /601), when Yeshua clearly stated the above two that are directed to a Hebrew community. It bothers when someone says they're all for Jesus but not the TaNaK, " You mean the prophecy that foretold of the annointed new king from the line of David?" Then a pause, and "Who's David?", or "Who's Rehoboam?" I will say that following Torah is much easier considering there is no temple to make sacrifices, but to state that Yeshua did so, yet we ourselves ought not to is questionable, a yearly commute to Yerhushalom is mandatory for all Hebrew peoples in the time of the second temple from Ezra Nekhemyah . Matityahu 5:17 clearly states that to do away with the Torah was not His teaching. His death changed nothing in regards to the keeping of Torah, even the disciples follow the sabbath when Yeshua had come off the cross.
I love what you're doing and please keep it up, though I myself believe that when the Hebrew Bible says to follow God's commandments through all your generations and again the shema teaches to instruct your young to do so, that YHWH has not and teaches not to ever stop these habits, like remebering to do so three times a day. If so, why would almost all churches celebrate the Eucharist multiple times a day, not knowing that Pesach is a Hebrew holiday meant for "only the Hebrew people?" regarding the mass exodus of a Hebrew group from Egytian lands. Where is the line to pinpoint what a Hebrew and a gentile should and should not do to coincide with God's law. In other wording, how does one khatah or gain baruch ? To be a follower is to be brought into the Hebrew fold, even a Ysraelite can be labeled a goat and not a lamb. Like you said in the Understanding the Torah, you can't cut and paste what you choose from the TaNaK, it is the God of Israel's law, people try as they want, you in yourself(not you personally) can't change this truth. The Hebrew Bible is full of this idea, but all is left but a warning to turn back to God and follow the commandments. This is the general idea of what Yohanan and Yeshua preached.I like to joke and get people to realize it in this way, Yohanan (John) was a baptiser not a Baptist, Yeshua (Jesus ) was a Hebrew not a Christian.
Vito,
You said: “I will say that following Torah is much easier considering there is no temple to make sacrifices, but...”
According to the Torah, you are not keeping the law without the Temple. Period. And this tradition of “observing” Torah was invented by Pharisees. It comes from the Talmud, which means you’re in an offshoot of Talmudic Judaism and not Christianity.
You’d do well to watch this video: th-cam.com/video/tXkkjhtuVi8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for your explaination on John 6:53!! As a recently escaped catholic that just started reading the Bible(at the age of 38 lol!) This has obviously been one of the hard sticking point and you really helped me clear that up! So thank you! God bless yoy and keep up your work. I found your channel last week and it has been a blessing!👍👍🙏🙏
This is the gospel of Jesus Christ (Yeshua haMashiach) according to Moses.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
1 Passover/Pesach
He died as the Passover "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world."
We die to our sin and leave our sinful ways.
2 The Feast of Unleavened Bread
He was sinless. The Word lived out perfectly in wisdom in a human body.
We examine our lives according to His Word and confess our sins and walk in His ways.
3. Feast of Firstfruits
He resurrected from the dead.
We are raised up from spiritual death to walk in newness of life, following Him to one day experience a complete resurrection.
4. Shavuot/Pentecost Feast of Weeks
He sent His Spirit to indwell believing hearts.
Our hearts are changed and we are transformed to hear Him and follow His Way.
5. Yom Teruah/ Day of Trumpets
He will come again, announced as King.
We welcome our King and His kingdom. Until He arrives, the Kingdom of God is within those of us who believe. We anticipate His coming in the 7th millennia and celebrate Sabbath the 7th day.
6. Yom Kippur/ Day of Atonement
He judges the world.
We who are in Him, part of His body are seen as righteous, by His eternal Word in us. His Spirit sanctifies our Temple. His blood, the Word, has transformed us. His Word washes us with truth.
7. Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles or Booths
He tabernacles again on earth, to reign over all in justice and peace.
We who love His law will reign with Him.
It's really simple and straight forward. The Law summed up is love God and others. It teaches us how to love and what is right and wrong like don't commit adultery, honor your parents, don't steal, etc.
I don't understand why Christians have a hard time accepting this.
We live by the Spirit;
We are convicted by the Spirit;
We are chastened by the Spirit;
We are obedient to the Spirit;
We are taught by the Spirit;
We are led by the Spirit;
We are made righteous through the Spirit;
All through the Spirit, by faith in Christ.
We do not live by the law;
We are not convicted by the law;
We are not chastened by the law;
We are not obedient to the law;
We are not taught by the law;
We are not led by the law;
We are not made righteous through the law;
Through obeying the law, no one has been made righteous before God.
So the Sabbath is part of that law of love.
@@robertcain3426 you are not convicted by the law? Uhhh.
@@Jamie-Russell-CME No. We are convicted by the Spirit - the Holy Spirit. Haven't you understood that from the apostles teaching?
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Jn 16:8
The “Law of Moses” is not from Moses. The Law is from the God of Israel. The Word states that sin is the transgression of the Law of God. Jesus states that “if you love me, keep my commandments.” He also states the following:
Luke 6:46 KJV
[46] And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
And...
Matthew 5:18-19 KJV
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
So, if y’all think you don’t have to obey the Law giver consider your place at the day of judgement.
Revelation 22:14-15 KJV
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Psalm 119:126 KJV
[126] It is time for thee, Lord, to work: for they have made void thy law.
So if y’all make void the Law, know for certain you’ll not enter His kingdom.
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
And who are workers of iniquity? Those who have voided the Law of God.
Is your prayers heard?
Proverbs 28:9 KJV
[9] He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
No! Why? You don’t consider His Law.
Consider your ways and repent.
We Israelites are the Law givers. So learn the TRUTH.
Romans 9:4-5 KJV
[4] Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; [5] Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Isaiah 43:1,10 KJV
[1] But now thus saith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. [10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
So who are the Israelites? We are the priests of God. We are your teachers.
I go to a Messianics synagogue. The Jews there follow the law of Moses but don't require anyone to. We love Jesus and think Paul is right
And we say one can only be saved by faith in Yeshua
This is right! I met a guy online who follows Torah but understood that it is not required to follow Torah.
Gabrielle Farmer aa long as they’re not following the Talmud
thetjhproject exactly! As Jesus DID Himself. He lived out Torah PERFECTLY.
Question do You do as Jesus commanded ?
Matthew 28:19
“Go ye therefore,
and teach
all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:20
“Teaching them to observe
all things
whatsoever ……………I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
This is just one …….
Matthew 23:2
“Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:”
Matthew 23:3
“All therefore whatsoever they bid you
observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works: for they say,
and do not.”
Bless you
Jesus said obey my commandments as I have obeyed my father's commandments again Jesus and the father are one because it's stated in scripture he is the image of the invisible God. Add we have scripture to walk according to the way he walked. That's really hard to mess up.
So then I expect you all beneath my comment here, are circumcised also?
Yes. Honestly it wasn't done the right way though. Being a baby I didn't have any control over that. Technically you're supposed to be circumcised on the 8th day. More than likely I was circumcised on a 3rd. But you're not responsible for things that are in your control and if you were, that's what grace is for.
But Paul said that if you're not following the law of God and your circumcise then your circumcision means nothing. You have to be following the law in Christ in order for your circumcision to mean anything.
The new testament CLEARLY states that you don't have to be circumsiced.
@@seanking2944 I'm not circumcised, Am I not saved?
So sad my understanding is keeping those commandments just how God written them in ur heart. Mind..... Yeshua dead for the curse of the law..not to demolish the law of Truth...if it is gone then we will murder..and not follow the truth...
Huh?
In other words, the law was not done away with/abolished. The new covenant is the law being written on our hearts & minds and not on stone, paper, papyrus etc that can be destroyed much easier than our memory and spirit.
I would like to see a discussion between Mike Winger and Lex Meyer from Unlearn...
That'd be awesome
I don’t even like Lex Meyer, but i feel like some of what Lex would say would be such a curve ball, i would like to see how Mike responds.
Yes that'd be interesting
@@jred7. Why waste Mike's time with a Judaizer hack playing Jew? JESUS calls them "the synagogue of satan". This scurge on the body of CHRIST have been amongst us since JESUS and the cross. Devouring wolves dressed in sheeps' clothing. That would be his pretend orthodox beard, ramekin and I'm guessing tassels. A screen name "unlearn" is a dead give away of whom the antichrist serves.
@@rickhuntling7338 ...have you seen his videos?
I think that's a bit far fetched I think most hebrew roots know you cant add or remove from scripture
What's far-fetched?
It's not far fetched that the Hebrew Roots movement adds, subtract and change the scriptures to match their Judaizing doctrines.
@@rickhuntling7338 I bet you can´t give a single example of how they add and substract from the Word of God? In fact, they advocate against that. And what´s with the lame satanic Catholic terminology: Judaizing?
@@patricksachs3655
How much do you wish to wager?
Hebrew Roots teach Torah dietary laws are still in effect. Would you agree?
Deut. 12:10-16 says after Isreal crosses the Jordan Isreal may eat anything their hearts lust for clean or unclean.
Acts 10:11-16 GOD tells Peter to kill and eat. Acts 11:3 two witnesses testified Peter did eat Gentile food.
Gentiles may eat all things but not animals strangled, sacrificed to idols or the blood, Acts 21:25.
Mat. 6:25, 31 JESUS commands us not to give mind to food drink or dress.
Rom.14 teaches us not to judge others for day others regard or food they eat.
Col. 2:16-23 says the same.
1st Tim. 4:1-4 that all GOD's creation is good to eat in thanksgiving and the people that teach to abstain get their doctrines from seducing spirits and demons. Patrick is this your doctrine?
Loudaizein is Koine Greek term that means judaizer. Gal. 2:14.
@Ναζωραῖος Christians did not worship on Sunday before Constantine. The Sunday worshippers were worshipping pagan gods, and the sun god s one of them. . Even the Cahtolic Church now admits that, so you need to be updated on the new lines to spew. The followers of Christ observed the biblical seventh day sabbath until they were persecuted after Constantine, sabbath worship was criminalized and those that insisted were labeled as "judaizers" Plus, your nonbiblical theology of the trite "God abolished His own Law" is just more nonsense from you.
Mike, I follow you because your sermons tend to line up with my beliefs. I consider myself to be a "Torah Observant Christian," which I guess would fall into what many would call "Hebrew Roots." I find your sermons to be mostly sound doctrine. I'm not really familiar with these different forms of "Hebrew Roots" that you've explained. I just know that the Holy Spirit has convicted me to follow the Old Testament because it is beautiful, and Yeshua followed it. I'll never be perfect, of course, but I feel the need to strive to be as Yeshua was, at least to the best of my ability. I actually follow 119 Ministries as well, along with Philia Ministries, who also get a ton of flack for being Torah Observant. I just want you to know that many of us are convicted to follow the Law of Moses out of obedience, not for our Salvation, but because we've found salvation. Does that make sense? I am not saved by works, but by Grace. My works come from a place of appreciation for the Grace I've been given. I hope that makes sense.
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There is no such thing as Torah observant christian. There is no such thing as saved by grace, implying that you are a saved sinner. Grace is not a license to sin, BUT Grace is the power of Yahusha Messiah in us TO OVERCOME SIN.
Yisrael means to overcome with Elohim. Did Yahusha ever say go and sin some more? NO! He said, go and sin no more.
Our Father does not hear the sinner, but hears the one who does His desire:
Joh 9:31 “And we know that Elohim does not hear sinners. But if anyone fears Elohim and does His desire, He hears him.
Those christians who think they are saved by grace and live in sin, is going th get a BIG surprise on judgement day. Our Father says to those NOT listening and obeying His Torah:
Pro 28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination.
Without the Torah, you sin because sin is lawlessness:
1Jn 3:4 Everyone doing sin also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
And these are the words our Messiah has for the sinner/ lawless one:
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!
Mike doesn't like the theology of being forced to believe something. Well then He is in the wrong business. That is exactly what Yahuah the Father does,
Deu 11:26 See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse:
Deu 11:27 the blessing, when you obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I command you today;
Deu 11:28 and the curse, if you do not obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim, but turn aside from the way which I command you today, to go after other mighty ones which you have not known.
The Father would ask Mike the following question:
Rom 9:20 But who are you, O man, to talk back to Elohim? Shall that which is formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?”
Rom 9:21 Does not the potter have authority over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for value and another not for value?
If you truly love Yahusha Messiah, your love for Him will be evidenced in your obedience to Him.
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
HalleluYAH!!!
Yesss. Similar here. I’m 6th or so generation mormon, coming out of Mormonism because on my journey to seek Christ I was convicted to learn more about Torah and Christianity (I grew up thinking I was Christian bc that is the Mormon claim) but now I’m learning differently. Again. All because I asked Jesus how He wanted ME to worship Him. His reply: “keep the feasts” That’s actually been really hard. Quite a shift in thinking and “knowledge”. But I’m so grateful for it.
@@randihill3915 Wonderful news. But if you truly love our Messiah Yahusha, He says:
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
See that? If you love Him YOU SHALL GUARD HIS COMMANDS!
Now when you look at the commands. He says not to bring His Name to naught:
Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
This is crucial, His Name is Sacred and it is the key to knowledge. SO if you want to understand Him, Speak His Holy name, and NO other name.
Exo 23:13 “And in all that I have said to you take heed. And make no mention of the name of other mighty ones, let it not be heard from your mouth.
His Name is Yahuah, and HE does not share:
Isa 42:8 “I am יהוה, that is My Name, and My esteem I do not give to another, nor My praise to idols.
Great that you keep the Scriptural feasts. I hope you Keep the Weekly Sabbath as well.
Read Lev 23, when the Father Yahusha speaks of His Appointed times. He Start of with the 7th day weekly Sabbath.
The He continues with the High Sabbaths(Scriptural feasts).
HalleluYAH!!!
@@randihill3915 Just some added information on His Sacred Name.
There is only one Name by which we can be saved.
Act 4:12 “And there is no deliverance in anyone else, for there is no other Name under the heaven given among men by which we need to be saved.”
Our Messiah Yahusha came in the Father’s Name:
Joh 5:43 “I have come in My Father’s Name …”
Because He and the Father is ONE!
Joh 10:30 “I and My Father are one.”
The reason why many people don’t find the Messiah in the Tanakh(OT), is because our Messiah has the same name as the Father:
Isa 47:4 Our Redeemer, יהוה of hosts is His Name, the Set-apart One of Yisra’ěl.
And when our Redeemer Yahuah(יהוה) came to earth, HE came to save. And His Name became “Yahuah Saves”, which is Yahusha(יהושע) in Hebrew.
Mat 1:21 “And she shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name יהושע for He shall save His people from their sins.”
And that is why we say HalleluYAH!!! When we praise the Father and Son.
Because there is only one Name!
Act 2:21 ‘And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.’
I like the responses. To be fair, I understand it's difficult to wrap our minds around this idea that we should obey the commandments and teach others to do so. For so long many of us have been taught that Yeshua fulfilling the law somehow meant He abolished it. some have rightly pointed out that the majority of Christians keep 90% of the law, anyway. The more I studied, the less sense it made as to why the Sabbath, dietary instructions, and a few other issues caused such resistance. Then as we began attending a couple of Sabbath fellowships, I loved the relaxed tone set by the fact that no one seemed to be in a hurry to leave after service but hung around for the fellowship which typically included lunch/dinner. It seems this is how it should be on a day set aside to honor our Creator, which, by the way, is the reason given for the Sabbath in Genesis and subsequent passages. I can't help thinking that the traditions of men set up shortly after the apostles' deaths were a tool of Satan to deceive millions through all these centuries. I'm coming to realize that the fullness of the Gentiles mentioned in Romans 11 refers not to numbers but to increased understanding of the original faith.
Jane Mar Brackrog
Which commandments are you referring to?
The ones given in the old covenant or the ones given in the new?
I support the Hebrew roots. First of all, read Matthew 5;19, where it says that you will be called least if you don't do the commandment and don't teach it. Teaching it will get you called great in the kingdom of heaven. You don't have to believe in the Hebrew roots to get saved, but you should study the Torah to understand who God is and to see how the scriptures lead up to the salvation of Yeshua. Paul's writings are important since God spake through him to write that down. You should not be under the law, but you should study it to understand the history of our faith. Just so you know, I am aware of the book of Galatians. I hope you understand this message. Jesus is our savior! Matthew 5;19 (King James Version)
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
There is much spiritual knowledge to be gained by deeply contemplating the Law. Don't just follow the Law, ask yourself why each commandment is there in the first place. Think of the spiritual principles behind each law.
Go read 1st John 3:4 and consider that statement again please.
Go kill a spotless blood 🩸 lamb 🐑 sacrifice every time you sin then. Oh and keep ALL the other 600 laws too. Then you’ll be saved. Or trust in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. You can’t have both ways. You can’t have your cake 🎂 and eat it 🍰 and eat it 🍰. .. ok 👍
And was Jesus referring to the 10 commandments? He summed them up as Love the Lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul, and love one another as yourself. “Paul settled the issue of the 10 Commandments in several places, among them Romans 10:4 that 'Christ is the end of the law to all who believe' and 13:8-10 when he lists several of the 10 Commandments in v9, saying before in v8 and after in v10, "to love your neighbor as yourself fulfills the law".
His point as James' was in 2:10 where he said if you live by the OT law and break 1 law, you are guilty of all 613 laws. Therefore each said, as Jesus stated in Mark 12:29-31, that loving the Father will all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and loving our neighbor as ourself, are the top commands, for all the rest hang upon those 2.
@@inchristalone25 If you love the Lord and your neighbor, you will automatically keep the 10 commandments
'For the native Israelite and the stranger that sojourns with you '
'The branches gather nourishment from the root.."
Primal Way said: “'For the native Israelite and the stranger that sojourns with you '”
Interpreting that to mean that Gentiles sojourning in Israel kept the law of Moses and so Gentile believers should as well is not true because that would mean they forced conversions, but they did not.
And the axe has been laid to the root.
@@patrickfoster4586 if the root is cut out, how do the branches gather nourishment(including the wild ones grafted in)? Is there a new root system?
@@biblehistoryscience3530 wild branches grafted in, gather nourishment from the root. The root is Israel (keepers of the Oracle's of God) . The Torah is the constitution of God kingdom.
Primal Way I see the Ten Commandments as the “Constitution” of the original nation of Israel, and the Torah was their law. But the church was only formed after that law was fulfilled and a New Covenant law established in Christ’s blood, and Jesus taught that you cannot mix the two covenants without disastrous results. Hebrew Roots pours new wine into old wineskins, and the result is a fall from grace.
And if God had intended for the church to keep the law of Moses, he would not have made that impossible by destroying the Temple in the first church generation and preventing it being rebuilt. God ended the argument with that move. And this new religion of “observing” Torah was a reaction/rebellion against what God did. Observing Torah is not in the Torah but the Talmud, and Israelite did not observe the law when they were in Babylonian exile. God was merely pleased with those who did not worship foreign gods until their captivity ended.
Hosea 4 :6. " my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because thou Hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee , thou shall be no priest to me; seeing thou has forgotten thy law of thy God, I will also forget thy children"
Jeremiah 31:31-34 New International Version (NIV)
31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”
Old covenant is gone. New covenant replaces it.
@@genli5603 New Covenant is for Israel and Judah...
You're a gentile.. out of the game player
The weekly Sabbath is not ceremonial. It was instituted before the fall.
And it is the center of the ten commandments.
It's the decalogue. Not the nine o' logue.
My Lord said, "I am Lord of the Sabbath, and I made it for mankind."
Meditate on what this is saying. He did not disregard it. But emphasized its right purpose. Intended for mankind (anthropos).
What laws are written on the heart?
The weekly sabbath is not ceremony. It points to creation and
Restoration
The true believer keeps all of God's 10 commandments. Jesus Christ is the Sabbath rest of the believer Hebrews 4.
We rest in His completed work on the cross. Christians follow the Spirit of the Law not the letter of the Law. Honor and keep holy our Savior our Sabbath. Love God and love your neighbor. If one does not love God he will not love his neighbor,and if you do not love your neighbor who you can see how can we love God whom we have never seen. All 10 commandments are honored by the Law of Christ. God is Love,God is the Sabbath, God is our Salvation. God is our all in all, let us rest in Him and not the shadow.
@@Crow44195 in what way do you keep the 10 by not doing it? What is the spirit of do not lie? So should we obey by not doing the commandments?
Is there some verse about whoa to those who call evil good and good evil?
Second time watching this series. Thanks Mike for so much clarity. I also just discovered your two part, how to read/apply the Old Testament, which goes well and is helpful with this. Oh and “do you have an unsettled feeling” tactic is used by hyper-charismatics and WoF also...
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
Isaiah 40:8
You were saying?
Michael Schroeder
Do you stone witches, homosexuals, Sabbath breakers and rebellious children?
@@evanu6579 I don't, but Jesus eventually will. Except there won't be any stones used, just Judgement, according to Law.
Michael Schroeder
Did God command men in the old covenant to stone or did He command to leave that up to Jesus? You specifically cited a passage that states the word of the Lord will last forever. You seemed to be implying that we keep every word ever given by God.
Of course that would lead to many contradictions as it clearly states in the new covenant that things are different.
Divorce and remarriage
Eye for an eye law.
Stoning laws.
Sacrificial laws
Ceremonial laws.
Priesthood.
And on and on.
Jesus said that not one jot can pass from the law until all be fulfilled. If one jot has passed then all of the laws have been fulfilled.
Have any of the laws passed?
@@evanu6579 it's called putting things into context. Nowhere when Jesus spoke did He abolish or change anything, and His disciples did not teach that anywhere in the New Testament we have. However, there is no Temple, and no longer any priesthood, yet the Law still stands. You cannot tell anyone to repent and not sin if you do not have a standard by which to judge by. If you think that it's changed, then God has changed that which He judged Israel by and allowing the rest of the world to do as it please. According to your logic, you can sin anyhow simply because you claim the standard has changed. The standard has not changed, the authority and place have! You cannot pick and choose from the standard, simply because if you could, then the standard is subjective according to perspective and circumstances. The statement, "I can't help it I was born gay!" Would be entirely lawful as a defense if that was the actual case. So is the Sabbath still on the seventh day? I don't know why that would have changed! Only those that put their faith in Jesus now are able to rest in the very thing God had done on the 7th day, we commemorate that because of what Jesus did. We don't have to provide that on our own any longer with a man as priest to provide that in which we prove unwillingly to comply.
Michael Schroeder
You said that there is no record of Jesus or His disciples changing or abolishing any of the laws.
Matt 5: 31 ¶ It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Deu 24: 1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Matt 5: 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Exo 21: 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
Matt 5: 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Deu 23: 5 Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee.
6 Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever.
Heb 7: 11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
2Cor 3: 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 ¶ But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
12 ¶ Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
Acts 15: 5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Eph 2: 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Col 2: 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Rom 2: 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Col 2: 11 ¶ In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
1Cor 7: 18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Gal 4: 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain
20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
21 ¶ Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 5: 1 ¶ Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Rom 7: 4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
And on and on. It’s hard to miss.
The thing is, you don’t keep the law. Even the laws you could keep, you don’t. Do you have a handrail on the roof of your house? Do you stone those whom you were commanded to? (I’m sure there’s enough of you to set up a judicial system to carry out those laws). Do you keep a lamb in your house for Passover and put it’s blood on your doorposts? Do you make pilgrimages to Jerusalem? Abraham made sacrifices before the Levitical priesthood was set up. Do you make sacrifices?
Gal 3: 10 ¶ For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Deu 27: 26 ¶ Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
The law was meant to bring guilt and damnation to those who were under it. It shows your need for mercy. It caused sin and death. Christians follow the Spirit, not the letter. The Spirit guides into all righteousness. It’s called bearing fruit.
It is called THE WAY. Yahusha commanded us to obey the Torah. Matthew 23:1-3; and we also see Apostle Paul also keeping and teaching Torah. You have to remember there was no New Testament when our Savior walked on the earth. The SCRIPTURES (Old Testament) were the WORD they taught. Shalom and praying for blindness to be removed from those who call upon the Messiah for His Holy Spirit to fill you and cause you to keep His statutes and walk in the ways of Messiah. Ezekiel 36:26-27. Bless you! (Matthew 5 says it all!)
Dena, Jesus told Jews under the law to keep the law, but he was preparing them for when he would fulfill the old and start the New Covenant. But Jewish leaders rejected him and persecuted his apostles who taught that the law had been fulfilled so that nobody had to keep the law of Moses any longer. And that’s the reason why several apostles were killed.
One other point of evidence to share, Matthew 23:1-3 Messiah reveals how those teachers will teach Torah (Moses), so Jesus instructed his disciples to obey this, but He clarifies “don’t do what they DO because they do not obey Torah.” This again is why he called them hypocrites. There was no New Testament when He came. The scriptures He taught were the Tanakh or “Old Testament”. 300 years later did we have the compiled NT. Paul taught Tanakh. This is what He knew once He encountered Messiah. The Talmudic /Rabbinic traditions he let go of, thank goodness!
@@dena3902, I’ve heard that argument from Hebrew Roots teacher, but when the apostles assembled in Jerusalem to consider what the Pharisees proposed, it was to get circumcised and keep the law of Moses. Had the Pharisees suggested they keep traditions that Jesus had already condemned, the apostles would not have bothered holding a council meeting for that, would they?
And the reason why Jesus said to follow what the Pharisees say (in Matthew 23:1-3) is because they sat in Moses seat. He was referring to the fact that they were reading the Law and Prophets, and that was what the people were to obey. Hebrew Roots teachers think that’s a slam-dunk because Jesus said to obey the Torah, and he was speaking BEFORE he’d died to fulfill the law of Moses. He was speaking as a man under the law to other men under the law.
Lastly, the books of the New Testament were completed by the middle of the first century. They were only officially compiled into a canon a couple centuries later. The gospels and epistles were circulating around the churches hundreds of years before the canon was sealed, and they instructed the early church to not keep the Torah anymore. In Acts 15, the apostles agreed that the instruction in Matthew 23 would not apply to the Gentiles, and if you read Romans and Hebrew, it’s clear that there was no difference between Jew and Greek anymore because Jesus had fulfilled the law.
Yes, ACTS 15 is a very important place for us to get understanding. They did convene over much dispute about circumcision and Keeping the Law of Moses (of Yah). Of course we understand that the circumcision of the flesh was no longer needed, because as prophesied we became circumcised in our hearts upon the arrival of Messiah. Even before He was crucified, this circumcision of the flesh was no longer necessary. The message of repentance came forth from John the Baptizer to be prepared to repent and receive the Messiah and to SHEMA Him (hear and obey). Acts 15 they determined they were not going to police the new converts on their keeping of Torah as they were coming out of paganism, but to focus on teaching them the Torah of Yah which would help them release their habits of pagan rituals, 4 things they focused on in Acts 15 which were: abstain from idols, fornication, strangled things, and blood. These are all part of Torah. Then they remarked, it is good enough to focus on these things for now, as they will assemble each Sabbath to learn the rest. verse 21: 21 For from the earliest times, Moshe has had in every city those who proclaim him, with his words being read in the synagogues every Shabbat.” Now perhaps where the big gap is would be understanding TORAH. What exactly are we saying when we say Torah. We are saying the laws of Yah which have been in place from Adam forward. They were finally engraved IN STONE by the Hand of Yah for Moses to teach His Set Apart people (Israel). Circumcision and Levitical laws are no longer in play. This is why Paul encouraged us to RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD (The Tanakh or Old Testatment) Because some of the Old Testatment or Tanahkh is no longer necessary. How can anyone say that the 10 commandments are no longer necessary? Are you now allowed to have idols? Commit adultery? Lie? Steal? Ignore the Name or take the Name of Yah in vain? I mean what kind of a Believer in Messiah would EVER want to do any of those things? And Jesus taught in Matthew 5 explicitly the completion of keeping those laws. They are not only OUTWARD KEEPING but INWARD KEEPING in the heart itself. If you even look at a woman to lust after her, you broke it. So a circumcised heart filled with the Set Apart (Holy) Spirit empowers you from the love of the Father through His Son, to honor and keep this commandment with no problem. You honor and obey out of LOVE. Now when Jesus answered what the greatest command was, he not only gave 1, but TWO. Because the 10 are broken into 2 categories. Love God and Love others. The first 4 are LOVE GOD commands. The last 6 are LOVE OTHERS commands. He quoted Deuteronomy chapter 6. He taught so much TORAH and said FOLLOW ME. How can anyone walk in Messiah's ways and FOLLOW HIM, TAKE UP HIS CROSS and DENY ONESELF if they ignore or abolish the very LAWS Jesus taught? It is beyond incomprehensible. Shalom.
@@dena3902, I’ve never heard a person in Hebrew Roots that said circumcision wasn’t necessary, or that is wasn’t necessary before Jesus died and fulfilled the law, but then again there is a diversity of teachings within the movement, so there’s that.
Anyway, I have heard many times that the apostles only told the Gentiles this small list as a starter and they’d pick up the rest in synagogues. But this chapter says the apostles started out not agreeing the with Pharisees, then arguments were made against the Pharisee’s position, someone pointed out that they had never taught Gentiles to keep the law, then instead echoing what the Pharisees said (that Gentiles needed to get circumcised and keep the law), the apostles wrote these few rules from the Noahide law, then the Gentiles celebrated because of their decision. And in Acts 21 where this decision is repeated, the apostles repeated they have never told Gentiles to follow Moses (which means to get circumcised and keep the law). AND that was said years later under withering persecution of the Pharisees for not teaching law keeping to believers.
If the apostles had written to the Gentiles that they must keep hundreds of new burdensome laws on pain of death, get circumcised, and to pay a new tax, the Pharisees would have celebrated instead of the Gentiles. But the Gentiles celebrated their decision and the Pharisees got angry. And if they had taught the Gentiles to keep Moses, it would not be recorded years later in Acts 21 that they had never taught Gentiles to keep the law but instead keep those few Noahide laws, and the conflict about keeping or not keep the law would not then be at a boiling-point with the Pharisees, but that’s exactly what we see in Acts 21.
So the reason they gave Gentiles these few Noahide rules was BECAUSE the Pharisees were reading the law every week and preaching that Gentiles should keep it. Giving these rules was pushing back against the Pharisees, it was giving the Gentiles other rules to follow that were not nearly as burdensome as the law of Moses was.
The Torah has not been around since Adam. While everyone agrees that God does not change, and most believe that there has been a progressive revelation of God since the Beginning, Galatians 3:19 says the law was ADDED because of transgressions until the seed (Jesus) should come. We can find shadows of the sabbath and blood sacrifices and tithing and clean animals starting in Genesis, but those things were not the law given at Sinai.
The law was a tool meant to keep these Israelite tribes away from the sins of Gentiles just long enough for the Messiah to be born and institute a New Covenant that defeats the power of sin. And now that old law is good for instruction in righteous living, and it remains a powerful reminder of what Jesus did and will do, and it’s a matter of tradition among the remnant of Israel.
You said: “Circumcision and Levitical laws are no longer in play.”
I’m sorry but that’s not in the Torah. You either keep the whole law and perfectly, or you’re under a death penalty.
You said: “How can anyone say that the 10 commandments are no longer necessary? Are you now allowed to have idols? Commit adultery? Lie? Steal?”
That’s a straw man argument that Paul put to rest thousands of years ago when he answered a rhetorical question about whether we should sin so grace can abound. God forbid! Grace in Jesus Christ is not a license to sin, as Hebrew Roots teachers so often accuse (just like the Pharisees who attacked Paul). You need to understand that God set down MORAL and CELEMONIAL rules. Eating pork was only a ceremonial abomination, but murder has always been and will always be evil.
I John 3:4 says what? The Law is still in effect. I would advise you to check out the commentary in the Restoration Scriptures. I don't reject Paul or the Messiah. The Messiah said he did not "come to abolish" and Paul, in Thessalonians, warns us about the man of lawlessness.
Daniel Colonari
1Jhn 3:4 is about the law of Christ which is the law of the new covenant. Read all the way to the end of the chapter. The last 4 verses come straight out and say what commandments we are to keep in the new covenant.
The law has been abolished for those who are in Christ. If you e received the fulfillment, then you’re free from the law. If you haven’t, then you have to keep every jot and tittle.
2Cor 3: 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 ¶ But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
12 ¶ Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
1Tim 1: 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Is the law for you or has it been fulfilled in you through a circumcised heart?
Hebrews 7:11-12 = John 13:34 = Hebrews 8. Oy! Jeremiah 5:20-21.
Ok that is some people's favorite verse that Jesus did not come abolish the law. What law did he not come to abolish? He came to fulfill what was written of him.
What was written of him?He came to fulfill the old covenant. Then you ask what does fulfill mean?
His father gave him a task to do what the law says. He did to the letter.
Jesus told us the law and the prophets were until John. Yet people say the law won't pass till heaven and earth does. Jesus told us it wouldn't pass till he fulfilled it. So he how does it stand if he fulfilled it?
@@shellyblanchard5788 The New Covenant is really a renewed promise/marriage vows with the nation of Israel.
@@danielcolonari No way. If it was a renewed covenant you would be sacrifices of animals for atonement of sins.
Jere 31:31 says a different , not like the one he gave their fathers. There nothing renewed about it. Now before this he renewed several times in the old covenant trying to get them to come and leave the pagan worship.
I’ve been attending a Messianic congregation for 18 years now. I’ve learned so many things that have made the lights go on in passages of Scripture that made no sense to me for the longest time beforehand. I don’t do Christmas and Easter anymore, I observe the Biblical holidays, but I don’t bully people about it. I’m not afraid to say I don’t celebrate Christmas and Easter anymore and I’m happy to tell them why, but want they want to do with that information is up to them. I don’t believe obeying commandments gets one into the Kingdom. I believe that outward actions give evidence of transformation within. Sure, there are self-righteous scolds in the HRM, but there are self-righteous scolds in the churches too. I believe there’s a counterfeit religious spirit at work throughout the body today. As for the dietary thing? Hey, if you find it “liberating” to eat mice, garden slugs and roaches, knock yourself out but please don’t invite me over to dinner!😆
So the question a person should be asking is are they going to come out of Babylon and Egypt and join to Israel?
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@@NeilRoy If we go with the typical Pastor or Rabbi- they would sooner disagree with King Solomon- the wisest man/king of his time- before agreeing with that scripture.
I made up my mind who I will listen to. 🎶🕊✨👑
@@sinistransgressionofthetor5449 This is exactly why I don't listen to "pastor's" or "rabbi's", but I only listen to God's word. Men often stick with tradition over and above God's word.
_8 As I live, says the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became food to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;_
_9 Therefore, O you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;_
_10 Thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be food for them._
_11 For thus says the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search for my sheep, and seek them out._ -Eziekiel 34:8-11
@@yahisgoodallthetime-hebrew7608 Excellent quote! Thanks!
I don’t understand how, if God said these were his laws and they were for all, forever, how did that get changed?
If Yeshua, Jesus, said that not a single jot or tittle of the law would pass away until ALL was finished, how did it get removed?
I understand that Yeshua kept the law and if we are to walk the way he walked, why would we not keep the law also?
Those are only a few of my comments, Mr. Winger. As James said, show us your faith WITHOUT works and I’ll show my faith (the fruit in my life) by my works, or by keeping my Father’s commands.
It about being saved, not how many laws you can keep. Jesus's blood is what saves. Therefore we are not under that covenant to keep it. We are under the new covenant of Christ where he shed his blood for many.
@@shellyblanchard5788 I understand the church's position, but so many statements made by Yeshúa himself are ignored. He said that if we loved him, we would keep his commandments and he said that he spoke the words of his Father, who gave us the commandments. He also told his disciples and others to DO what was spoken from Moses' seat, but not to do what the Priests did. Why? Because the Word of God was preached from Moses' seat whereas the Priests lived their own traditions. My salvation does come through Yeshúa, but he has asked us to love him and to follow him and since he followed the law, I will as well.
@@Cuernavacachica02 God in Jere 31:31 said he would make new covenant, not like the one he gave to their fathers. In other words it wouldn't have the dietary laws and restrictions it did in the old covenant.
The book of matthew was not the new covenant of Christ, they were still under the MOSAIC law. The new covenant wasn't until his ressurection when after ascended.
@@shellyblanchard5788 Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. - Matthew 7:21 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew7:21&version=NIV
What is the will of God, brother? We read it in the Tenach. There are many things that we cannot keep now because there is no temple and/or there are other circumstances that impede it, but there are many that we can keep and that we should to show the Father and the Son that we love them.
"And if you are Messiah’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise."
Walk as he walked. He walked in obedience, trusting in the righteousness of the Father and keeping his instructions. He is the Identity that all believers take on. If Messiah is your identity, why are you calling yourself a Gentile?
Shalom/Peace
Due to the fact Abraham was a Gentile,and was not under the Law, he was justified by faith. So is the believer in Christ.
You if not being a Jew, but a Gentile convert; would not have been allowed past the Ezrat ha- nashim (outer Court yard of the Temple), because Gentiles are not part of the OT covenant. Non Levite Jews could go to the Azarah ( inner Court yard)
@@Crow44195
The Messiah broke down the wall of separation but it appears some people prefer it up.
Abraham was a Hebrew, he kept Yahweh's instructions.
Genesis 26:4, I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, 5 because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”
Yes, Justification is only through the Messiah because scriptures is clear ALL have sinned.
By Grace through Faith we are saved. Abraham proves that by Faith great works are done as does the book of Hebrews. Without Works ones Faith is Dead. Salvation should fill the believer with the thankfulness to want to do everything Yahweh has instructed of us. Are his ways not Holy Righteous and Good? Do we not have "Faith" in him?
It was never Yahweh's intention for Gentiles to be block from him, but that all men should turn to him. It is men that set up barriers to keep others out. They created rules and traditions that were not Biblical.
Shalom/Peace
@@michaeldeo5068 Yes faith without works is dead. Those works for the believer flow from the fruits of the Spirit Galatians 5:22-23 love,joy,peace, patience,kindness,goodness, faithfulness,gentleness,self control. Then defined by the Law of Christ which is simply Love, not the Torah.
@@Crow44195
So the Torah, the instructions of Yahweh do not define Love?
What is the greatest Commandment and where does one find it?
Shalom/Peace
I really like your videos. I would disagree that we are not Israel though. There are quite a few things Jesus says that would preclude the inclusion of those that are not Israel in His mission. Taking those ( verses that say He has come only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel) along with His declaration that He instituted the New Covenant, and looking at what the New Covenant is and who it is for, indicates that New Covenant Israelites.
The reason that you may not think it applies to you is because you don’t see yourself as part of Israel. We are grafted in. Yeshua lived by the law. Should we not live as he lived? Which of the 10 Commandments do you, as a Christian, believe it is OK to disobey? Stealing? Murder? Adultery?
Romans 9-11.
Should we stone Sabbath breakers or adulterers? 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤔🤔🤔🤔🤭🤭🤭🤭
Where did Moses get the commandments from the almighty God
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Mt. SINAI
@@AlgarielMaldonado And the commandments existed before Sinai...
"And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Of every CLEAN beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are NOT CLEAN by two, the male and his female." ~ Genesis 7:1-2
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800
Which commandments are we talking about? The moral ten commandments or direct commandments/ instructions to a specific person?
Because we can say the first commandment was in the garden of Eden.
I’m so impressed with most of my Hebrew people responses. What a delight to see how many of us left Egypt and how we are constantly testing our faith. Always thankful that through Christianity, I found my first love in Yeshuah, but also thankful about understanding who he is through the Torah.
@JJ France - You precluded your response with, "I think..."
Maybe consider quoting Scripture as did Albert Chicken rather than "I think," and you may be taken seriously.
Also your final statement, "...fear of what daddy will do if he finds out." don't forget that "The fear of YHWH is the beginning of wisdom." (Pro 9:10)
Defender Of Truth
“Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE ”-
What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise. Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.”
Galatians 3:13, 17-22 NASB
Defender Of Truth
“But if you bear the name “Jew” and rely upon the Law and boast in God,
You who boast in the Law, through your breaking the Law, do you dishonor God? For “ THE NAME OF GOD IS BLASPHEMED AMONG THE GENTILES BECAUSE OF YOU,” just as it is written.”
Romans 2:17, 23-24 NASB
Defender Of Truth
“For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.”
James 2:10 NASB
It’s literally impossible to keep the Torah. People pick and chose which laws they like to keep, and ignore the ones they can’t, which is fine. But when people start to condemn others for not practicing certain laws of the Torah, thats when it becomes heretical and dangerous.
Those who believe the Law gives them righteousness nullify the cross. And are in serious danger. You can’t be under the Law and under Grace, you have to pick. Observing parts of the Torah is great. But when a teacher claims that it’s mandatory that’s a different gospel.
“I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.””
Galatians 2:21 NASB
@@AString95 - My friend, you are simply regurgitating the same Scriptures taken out of context that we all learned erroneously in Bible College...
Did you notice the number of times Sha'ul said the Law (Torah) is "good?" You even quoted it yourself:
Rom_3:31 "Do we then make void the Law through faith? God forbid: yea, we ESTABLISH the Law."
I'm not sure how you interpreted that keeping the Torah is a "curse." The Scripture is a reference to Deut 30 whereby YHWH commanded that if Israel guarded the Law, there would be "life and blessings" but if the rejected the Law, there would be "death and curses." THAT is the curse that Yahshua has taken on, giving us a chance to honor His Renewed Covenant.
Ask yourself, "what is sin?"
"Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the Law: for sin is the transgression of the Law." (1Jn 3:4)
How can you be repentant and still continue in transgression of the Law?
Also remember, Faith without works (of the Torah) is DEAD...
@ 42:00 Amen! we need that reminder daily. Despite our current theological disagreements, there is absolute agreement there. Thankfully, theological disagreements are temporary conditions that will pass away when we are in His presence.
How do I book my spot to your Jerusalem trip for your book launch party?
HymnSake post photos and videos please
^ditto^
Me too!
Gentiles not to keep the law?
Leviticus 19:34
The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.
Exodus 12:49
"The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you."
Leviticus 24:22
Verse Concepts
'There shall be one standard for you; it shall be for the stranger as well as the native, for I am the LORD your God.'"
Numbers 9:14
Verse Concepts
'If an alien sojourns among you and observes the Passover to the LORD, according to the statute of the Passover and according to its ordinance, so he shall do; you shall have one statute, both for the alien and for the native of the land.'"
Numbers 15:14
Verse Concepts
'If an alien sojourns with you, or one who may be among you throughout your generations, and he wishes to make an offering by fire, as a soothing aroma to the LORD, just as you do so he shall do.
Numbers 15:15
Verse Concepts
'As for the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the alien who sojourns with you, a perpetual statute throughout your generations; as you are, so shall the alien be before the LORD.
Numbers 15:16
Verse Concepts
'There is to be one law and one ordinance for you and for the alien who sojourns with you.'"
Numbers 15:29
Verse Concepts
'You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them.
Deuteronomy 1:16
Verse Concepts
"Then I charged your judges at that time, saying, 'Hear the cases between your fellow countrymen, and judge righteously between a man and his fellow countryman, or the alien who is with him.
Deuteronomy 24:14
Verse Concepts
"You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.
Leviticus 18:26
Verse Concepts
'But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you
Exodus 12:19
Verse Concepts
'Seven days there shall be no leaven found in your houses; for whoever eats what is leavened, that person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is an alien or a native of the land.
Exodus 20:10
Verse Concepts
but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
Deuteronomy 5:14
Verse Concepts
but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant or your ox or your donkey or any of your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you, so that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you.
Leviticus 16:29
Verse Concepts
"This shall be a permanent statute for you: in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble your souls and not do any work, whether the native, or the alien who sojourns among you;
Leviticus 17:8
Verse Concepts
"Then you shall say to them, 'Any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice,
Leviticus 17:10
Verse Concepts
'And any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people.
Leviticus 22:18
"Speak to Aaron and to his sons and to all the sons of Israel and say to them, 'Any man of the house of Israel or of the aliens in Israel who presents his offering, whether it is any of their votive or any of their freewill offerings, which they present to the LORD for a burnt offering--
Leviticus 17:13
Verse Concepts
"So when any man from the sons of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, in hunting catches a beast or a bird which may be eaten, he shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth.
Leviticus 24:16
Verse Concepts
'Moreover, the one who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. The alien as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.
Numbers 15:26
'So all the congregation of the sons of Israel will be forgiven, with the alien who sojourns among them, for it happened to all the people through error.
Numbers 35:15
Verse Concepts
'These six cities shall be for refuge for the sons of Israel, and for the alien and for the sojourner among them; that anyone who kills a person unintentionally may flee there.
Joshua 20:9
Verse Concepts
These were the appointed cities for all the sons of Israel and for the stranger who sojourns among them, that whoever kills any person unintentionally may flee there, and not die by the hand of the avenger of blood until he stands before the congregation.
Numbers 19:10
Verse Concepts
'The one who gathers the ashes of the heifer shall wash his clothes and be unclean until evening; and it shall be a perpetual statute to the sons of Israel and to the alien who sojourns among them.
Yes as an ancient Isrealite you were expected not to associate with people who engage in heathen practices.
This is totally non sequitur to anything Mike said.
Truth!
Silly, what a waste of time. Lol..
Acts 15:29, in regards to the Gentile Church,
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols. And from blood and from things strangled. And from fornication. From which if you keep yourselves, you will do well.
Those were the restrictions put upon the Gentile Church in Acts.
Take a closer look at the verses quoted.
The point of the original comment was that the law has ALWAYS been for EVERYONE who chooses to worship YHWH.
In no way do we reject Paul
He clearly stated that not all follow that. Please don't assume without listening further.
"And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands." 1 John 4
Amen
And if you dont, will Jesus take away your salvation? Last i checked, while we were sinners Christ died for us..
@@wojo9732 Hi Wojo. Absolutely, we WERE sinners, and Christ died to set us free from SIN. What is sin as defined by Scripture? Transgression of the law. See, it doesn't make sense for Christ to die for our sin, just so that we can go on sinning (transgressing the law.) I hope you can see that. If we are truly saved (set free from our sin), then we not longer want to sin (transgress the law.) We want to do what God asks us to do.
@@washedwiththeword So your saying if you sin you're not really saved? The day you first believe you're perfect and any sin after is not washed in the blood of CHRIST?
Have you ever heard of sanctification being a life long process? Paul died from the lust of the flesh daily but what you claim he was never truely saved.
Is Hebrews 12:5-11 unnecessary, you being perfect set free from sin?
The problem with judaizers is they rob the confidence from new believers and drive them away with their works based salvation.
@@rickhuntling7338 No, I didn't say that Rick, I said you no longer want to sin continue to sin, and I would add that as you have the power of the Holy Spirit in you, you are able to overcome sin.
When you say, "have you ever heard.." it comes across as derogatory, as if I would not know about sanctification. Of course, being sanctified is a continual process. A process of ceasing to continue in patterns of sin that gets deeper as we become more like Christ as we walk with Him and become more like Him.
When you say, "the problem with 'judaizers' is.." it suggests that you think I am a Judaizer. However, that is not the case. In no way or sense am I suggesting that people become Jewish, as if that were even possible, nor am I suggesting that anyone should convert to Judaism. Our salvation is only through Christ. We are saved through faith in Him, but if we stay in our sinful state and there is not change at all, ever, are we really saved? Faith in Jesus will bring sanctification, it will bring change, as James states, "faith without works is dead." (James 2: 26b)
You say, "The problem with judaizers is they rob the confidence from new believers and drive them away with their works based salvation." This may be the case, if there were Judaizers going about trying to convert people to Judaism, but that's not really what we are talking about here. New believers can have absolute confidence that they are saved, through faith in Jesus, that He has forgiven them. However, if someone has really experienced salvation, I would wonder why they wouldn't want to obey the God who has cleansed them of all their sin, and given them the gift of salvation.
Wouldn't such an amazing, forgiving, merciful and gracious God be worthy of our obedience?
When we really grasp the depth of God's love for us, his absolutely incredible act of mercy to forgive all our sins, just based on our trusting in Him - why wouldn't you want to do what he says?
So... the mixed multitude in Moses’s day that were with him weren’t expected to follow the Torah? Okay.
In acts 15;21 the expectations from the apostles were not in accordance with the reality that there are those in every city who teach the Torah on sabbath?
Oh... saweeet!
Frank, the apostles agreed in Acts 15 that the law of Moses was a burden neither they nor their father’s could bear and it would tempt God to anger to put Gentiles under the law, but because the Pharisees were teaching them to keep the law every week in synagogues, they advised Gentiles to keep the Noahide laws instead.
And this ruling is reiterated in Acts 21, and in both chapters the apostles said they had never instructed Gentiles to keep the law.
Bible History Science It is true that no person can be saved by pursuing the Torah alone. Perhaps if you could read verse one with a new mindset? Think on that for about two minutes then re-read verse 21? See, a person has to ignore much bible and jump through hoops to come to an understanding that there is not one Torah for all. Both the native born and the sojourner.
Frank, the fact that sojourners were under the same law as Israelites referred to being under civil laws, so that the lives and property of foreigners were protected as if they were Israelites. Any by the way, that wasn’t the case in many other nations and city-states. One of the reasons that Sodom and the other cities on the plains were infamous was how they abused innocent outsiders.
And regarding “observing” Torah, that’s not in the Torah but the Talmud. In fact, God made it impossible for the church to “keep” Torah by destroying the Temple in the first church generation, and it’s clear now that there won’t be another temple until the last church generation, which will be the Antichrist temple. If God had wanted the church to keep Torah, he would not have made that impossible, and the fact that he did is a giant message to the world, I think, to look to the blood of his Son now.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 Amen - Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
The burden they were not able to carry was that of keeping laws so as to be saved. Yeshua was the lamb through whom we are saved and to whom we owe our allegiance and obeisance. If we ignore the fact that he spoke God's word, (the Word made live), are we truly showing our love?
119 didn't manipulate me by putting the idea in my head that something was missing. I thought it first. People like them confirmed that they too thought the same thing.
Are you able to answer some questions for me?
@@kayla1160159 What questions do you have?
those who experiment that, know what 119 is talking about
Same for me, I knew something was wrong a long time before. My church doctrine never seemed to match up with what I was reading 📚 in my bible. But I could never quite put my finger on it. Now I understand 👍 why
Mike winger I thank you for not miss representing the Hebrew roots movements.
I’m in the camp that believes As Paul said I knew not sin but by the law, the law shows us our sin
Sounds like you should follow the law and stop sinning then.
What did Jesus say? “Repent and sin no more.”
@@jred7 that’s a command for us All
@@henryjordan9453 ??? yeees?
@@jred7 to turn from sin and not to sin that’s a command for us all even Gentiles
@@henryjordan9453 Maybe I misunderstood your initial comment.
I do think that Mike was attacking the style more than the substance of 119 Ministries. I don’t really follow them, but just listening to the clips that Mike was playing, it seemed that Mike was still too much in his anti-WMSCOG frame of mind.
Edit: more* (not “me”)
“And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?” So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ” And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.””
Luke 10:25-28 NKJV
Amen
The christian always make this same mistake, you have to read to verse 40:
Mat 22:40 “On these two commands hang all the Torah and the Prophets.”
These two laws, of loving the Father and your neighbour, hangs on the two parts of the Torah. The 1st four commands is applicable to the Father Yahuah and Son Yahusha. And the last 6 commands applies to your neighbour.
And there you have it. You haver to obey the Torah of Moses.
Heb 10:28 Anyone who has disregarded the Torah of Mosheh dies without compassion on the witness of two or three witnesses.
@@jacobtack2258 I agree with you wholeheartedly brother. Yahusha taught Torah because attached to the Torah is the same promise of "do this and you will live". And we're told we can do it, and Yah doesn't lie. 🙂
@@tkmasala Amein brother, wonderful to see one that knows truth. HalleluYAH!!!
I am so relieved to have found this discussion on Hebrew roots. I was in it for a few weeks, about 6 yrs ago, and I had so much confusion. It is growing in SA. I am learning a lot from this videos, for correct interpretation of the word regarding us being saved gentiles.
What was the confusion you had in Hebrew roots? I'm not a part of them but I do think we should keep the law and not live in sin. There is no middle ground.
misunderstanding of the old testament will take you believe you are a gentile, which dont care about the covenant and Israel. Read what Paul say about it:
Ephesians 2:11-16
New King James Version
Brought Near by His Blood
11 Therefore remember that you, ONCE Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of ISRAEL and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Christ Our Peace
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.
No if you follow Jesus you are not considered a gentile (away of the pact) anymore, in his blood we have access to the covenant
Luke 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
And my friend, the only NEW covenant I read in scripture is with Israel and Judah, and as we read from Paul, you are not a gentile but Israel, then this covenant concerns you
Jeremiah 31:31-34
New King James Version
A New Covenant
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
@@edgaralejos8989 hello, im new to all this, what must i do to be saved?
@@wojo9732 the scripture is clear, Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved
if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
AMEN Mike! Thank you Jesus, for the Spirit of Truth.
Old Testament vs. New Testament stuff aside, I just want to ask very simple questions. If we it’s okay to eat whatever food we want, why did Peter say himself that he does not eat unclean food to Jesus when he had his vision? And why are so many (if not all) of the food called unclean in the Bible even scientifically proven to be unhealthy to eat? If there are two sets of laws in the Bible, why does it say in the book of Matthew that not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law until all of prophecy is fulfilled? And why are all of the Ten Commandments reiterating even in the New Testament? If God is perfect and just in all He does, why would He need to remove some of His Law for a certain number of believers? Why are we not all held to the same standard of obedience?
This was my thought process too.
I reasoned, there is an over whelming number of verses from Genesis to Revelation that calls for us to be holy (set apart) in how we live our lives.
We are not to look like the world...in it but not of it.
_And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." -Romans 12:2_
It also says one law, and one rule, for the homeborn and stranger who sojourns with you.
Hmmm, unless one group of believers has a license to sin? Are they exempt? Clearly God is no respector of persons.
1 John 3:4 calls sin trangressing the law.
Ive watched video of pigs eating poop that comes out of other pigs anus.
Joel Osteen, Pastor of Americas largest church, once said a pig will eat its own dead young... lookup on TH-cam: _Joel Osteen Pig is Unclean_
Ive even read an article that said a pig started to eat a farmer who fell or something to that effect. They seem like scavengers- garbage disposal.
Ive watched a video where worms were crawling out a pigs anus. Parasites.
Alot of newer Bibles will say "in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean". But older Bibles, like King James, Geneva Bible, even Wycliffe Bible do not say this...sure seems like it was added. But why?
Gods law says not to add nor subtract from it- but to keep his commandments...Dueteronomy 28 clearly states there is blessing or curse depending upon how one chooses obedience or disobedience.
This is similar to how the the book of Revelation gives warning to not add nor subtract from it.
(Side note: Not to mention, the original 1611 King James had the Apocrypha books in between the New and Old Testament writings...even the Authorized King James Bible was a response to the popularity of the Geneva Bible...supposedly being critical of the Catholic Church)
Very good questions Elizabeth! Paul's letters are a test to the gentile world to see if they will follow Yahweh's law or not. The scriptures says the Gentiles seek after wisdom 1Cor1:22 and it seems this is their problem, just as for the Jews the signs were given and are still here but SOME of them fail to see the Messiah Yahshua. But back to the Gentile world, most of them think the law is foolish and do whatever they can to not see the wisdom in it. Romans8:7,8 sums it up. It is the carnally minded man who despise Yahweh by showing hatred to His law. It's right there in their faces, they read it and still live as if they are pleasing to Almighty Yahweh.
@@moshemyym4627 you're dreaming......!!!!!!
@@jamesm2256 Oh come on James. You can do better than that.
i am glad to see, that when I began to look for Hebrew roots on youtube that most of the comments were favorable. most of the commentators who put out these videos are of the gentile based scripture groups and call themselves Christians, a title that was first used in Antioch. The history that I have pursued in length shows that they wished to separate themselves from their Jewish counterparts as believers in Yahshua in order to avoid persecution. In order to not be identified with the Hebrews, they did away with the keeping of what they considered "Jewish customs" such as the keeping of the Sabbath and the Holy days which became holidays and became pagan days like christmas, easter, good friday, lent, ash wendsday and so on. Yahshua said in Matthew that the Torah would not ever be done away with, so, did he lie or do Christians just ignore scripture that does not fit their doctrine? as the KJV been manipulated? yes, it has. Look at Psalms 46 KJV and carefully count 46 words down and write the word, then, not counting selah which is not part of scripture, count 46 words up from the bottom write it down, and keep in mind that Shakespeare was 46 years old at the time of translation. The book of James. There was not a disciple who went by the name, James, his name was Ya'aqob. It was changed when the king was told that his name James was the translation for Ya'aqob and this allowed the funding for the translation to continue. These facts are not fantasy. So what else has been corrupted?
lol... easy on the meth there
My roommate has become a monster because she is SO DEEP INTO THE HRM. She treats me like garbage because I believe in the New Covenant. I absolutely believe when Jesus shed His blood on the Cross THE NEW COVENANT BEGAN. now don’t get me wrong, I believe in the MORAL LAW are you still in existence but the Mosaic laws were done away with at the Cross. And the Mosaic laws were for the ISRAELITES AND THIS WAS MADE CLEAR BY GOD HIMSELF! the Lord talks in the Mosaic law “about HIS people” the Israelites!
I'm a former member of the Hebrew Roots Movement , I am Eastern Orthodox now. I personally saw people leave the Messiah completely they gave up the New Testament for Judaism . I kept seeing this happen to people.
Wow Ryan. That's exactly what I have perceived about its danger. The Word of God is clearn and prolific on how the Law of Moses is not for di sciples of Jesus. Yet, they do double speak, and proceed not knowing what they talk about or are affirming. Eventually they eliminate the writings of Paul. And, if they don't stop they reject Jesus too.
I just want to urge you about not moving from one form of error into another. All the isms are just that. The faith in Jesus which Paul proclaimed is spiritual. It has no name, corporation, schism, sect, cult, brand or thing. It is a spiritual house made without hands by God. Jesus is the Head of it. The Spirit moves in the midst. It is where two or three are gathered together in Jesus' name, He is there in the midst.
I hope you share on your testimony. People are forsaking the Father for another gospel which is not another. Same old thing...How grieving indeed.
Maybe you should try Messianic Me Tv because I just heard you say a few things that aren’t taught in this movement. Please listen more and make your corrections.
I always confused Hebrew roots with Hebrew Israelism so thank you for clearing this up!
I don't think Jesus came to abolish the Law or the Prophets because he said "do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets..." in Matthew ch 5.
Truth he did say that
I hope this journey you are on opens the door to you realizing that God’s commands are for us not against us, and that you find joy in his Torah through Messiah Yeshua.
Amen brother. I have found drawing closer to Yeshua and understanding his teachings so much better while understanding the Old Testament and the laws.
As a follower of our Messiah I don't attempt to follow the laws for legalistic reasons or because we are under the law but because it helps me understand the Our Savior. By obedience or the desire to be obedient is a demonstration of my love to God. The 613 commandments all deal with HOW to Love God, neighbor, and self. The written instructions on how you do that. By no means are my works required, but it's a simple way to have the desire to live a holy life and desire to live a holy life.
Amen
We are Israel. Paul says we are engrafted in and Peter echos this by saying we are a holy *nation* and a royal priesthood. This nation is Israel and demonstrates a continuity between the Brit Chadasha and the Messianic Writings (New Covenant)
Daniel Colonari
If we are Israel, then why does Paul say that Israel is not rejected in Romans 10? And if we are Israel, then how are Israelites and the nations *both* heirs to the promise (Ephesians 3)? And how is Abraham the father of the uncircumcised and the circumcised (Romans 8)? Israel is circumcised. You nullify the Scriptures.
What makes Israel special is that she as a nation is an inheritor of the covenant promises given first to Abraham. Without that, Israel would be just like Edom or some other Abrahamic tribe. But now through Jesus the Abrahamic promise is extended to all nations. This is what Paul writes in Romans 8, and Paul still distinguishes between Israelite and the nations.
What God has created according to the apostles is a multi-ethnic body of many nations, as Abraham will become the father of many nations. In Revelation 7:9 all nations worship God together. If we are all Israel then this cannot be fulfilled because there would be only one nation and one tongue worshipping God.
And 1 Peter was clearly written to a Jewish audience, though we too are made into the priesthood of God. That chapter-verse isn’t the best to use for the argument that you use it for, given that Peter wrote to a Jewish audience (1 Peter 1:1), and Paul to mixed and Gentile audiences (Ephesians 2, Romans 1-2).
We are the “true circumcision” of those not circumcised by hands (as in, circumcised by God, Philippians 3). We put no confidence in our flesh (that is, our national descent and pedigree, which is why Paul then points out that he would be above all Gentiles if we could, himself being an Israelite). But we boast in the Spirit who has circumcised our hearts and made us heirs of the sons of faith, being made faithful like Abraham (Romans 8-9). But that only makes us spiritual sons and heirs through Abraham, who was *not* an Israelite. Abraham was a Gentile- a Chaldean, but the father of the faithful. Israel was Abraham’s grandson, and only the grandson of promise, for Abraham had many children (and now has all of us as children also). They who are united with Abraham are united in faith and also in the sign of circumcision (Genesis 12, Genesis 17). But now, God has circumcised both Israelite and Gentile, making us both equally sons of Abraham (Deuteronomy 30:6, Matthew 3:9, Jeremiah 4:4, Ephesians 2:8-9, Philippians 3). So we are not the true Israel unless we are ethnically Israel. But the good news is that (Ephesians 3) it doesn’t matter. Whatever ethnicity you are, you are the promised one from that nation also, and the inheritor of all of the blessings once exclusively given to only one nation: Israel. You are the true inheritor from your own nation when you are born again, just as the true remnant from Israel always exists from the Israelites who accept the Messiah until all of the nations and all of Israel are blessed and saved (Romans 11).
Oh?
So you have now gone over to Jerusalem, been circumcised, changed all your DNA and BECOME and Israelite? LITERALLY and PHYSICALLY Daniel?
And if NOT, the the whole message is SPIRIT - Rom 2:28
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
This is replacement theology. Its wrong.
@@Crow44195 no, you are wrong.
There is now (in the New Covenant in Jesus' Blood) NO longer Israel vs Gentiles but we are one new man in Christ - He Himself having broken down the dividing wall of hostility between the two.
Jesus said, He would take away their inheritance and give it to another - which He did and now as Revelation 5:9 says, people from EVERY tribe and people and nation and language will be saved.
Sorry, but no longer are Israel God's special little elect - "Though the children of Israel number as the sand of the sea only a REMNANT shall be saved" This remnant began with the apostles and Acts 2 and TOGETHER with Gentiles they make up the Body of Christ.
@@time_2_get_ready Ok, so you think God has turned his back on the nation of Israel. The covenants are for Israel, gentiles were grafted in. The gentiles were grafted in due to Jews rejecting Jesus Christ to provoke the Jews to jealousy. To make them realize God has done something new and to seek Christ. God has not replaced the Jew. The Abranic covenant has not been done away with. I know HR hangs its hat on replacement theology. All believers are children of God.
Jer 31:31
Rom 9:4
Rom 9:10-11
Rom 11:11, 33-36
I think God's law is fun, expresses reverence, expresses love, form of worship, and invites fellowship. Some also appreciate the structure.
That's nice...what does that have to do with anything?
@@craigime literally the topic of the video.
@@GoldenRuffian literally not
@@craigime this is on the topic of Hebrew Roots. JK is sharing their perspective on following God's Law. How is that not on topic?
What is the point you're trying to make - other than sounding like an asshole?
@@GoldenRuffian beside this being over a year old, am i supposed to take you seriously since you're not a believer and you're just here trying to start arguments and be a jerk?
The Law is given to the sojourner and the native born!
How do the gentiles, who do not have the law, do what the law requires ? Did they celebrate the Passover ?
They did alongside Israel throughout Scripture. My family started honoring God’s appointed times/feasts (Bible way, not Jewish tradition) and it has been a massive blessing.
God said ONE LAW, not a bunch for them, but the rest of you - do nothing. What an unjust Creator. He doesn’t impart partiality. Israel was to be a light to the nations (though they disobeyed) Even in Acts they gave the gentiles 3 or 4 immediate things to stop and said “you will learn what Moses taught at synagogue on the sabbath.” The Jews add to the word and gentiles have taken away. Both are bad. Praise God that Yeshua’s “blood for forgiveness of sin” has brought us out from the “law of sin & death” to which we are not under by accepting his sacrifice. The grace is there as we walk out obedience. Nearly all homes have Bibles in them at this point, having access to God’s instruction. The law provides HOW God wants and doesn’t want to be worshiped, HOW to love our neighbor to God’s standards, HOW to handle civil issues, etc. Our father gave us instruction for blessings , no different than an earthly parent imparting rules on their children. Blessing or curses in disobedience. Choice is ours to make.
If someone is teaching disobedience they are intentionally or unintentionally deceiving the sheep to which follow them, scripture says.
Please remember brothers and sisters that law requires us to be holy, loving, and perfect. And all of those to the degree that God Himself is - impossible for us. That is why we MUST abide in Christ who is the fulfillment of the law and it is HE who produces the fruit in our lives to be holy loving and perfect because he is God (and the only one who is holy loving and perfect). Christ’s grace doesn’t end with justification but is perfecting us (sanctifying us). Why oh why Christians would we start in the spirit for our salvation (justification) and then depend on the flesh for our sanctification? It is Christ who sanctifies - all glory goes to him for the good works that he produces in us.
I love you comment but just wondering what are your standards then for loving a Christian life? For real? If you let the Holy Spirit guide you what standard do you use to test that Spirit to make sure it is from the LORD? I would agree 100% with most of what you said...but what would be wrong with trying to imitate Christ? I am know we can't do it..but what would stop us from trying? And if we aren't trying to imitate Christ, what does the Chrstian life look like to you? I am seriously trying to figure this out. I love your comment about abiding in Christ but what does that look like then? I believe it does look different for everyone follows the Holy Spirit but it should never conflict with Gods Holy and perfect word? So if not the law...knowing we cant keep it perfectly..
But what then do we do?
I also see alot of Pastors tell us to keep part of the law...which I dont see anywhere in the New Testament such as Tithing...that is OT law. Why do so many pick and choose. I would surely admit I do the same as I am not even close to understanding how to follow God word...but ask the Holy Spirit to guide me in His wisdom. Just curious if you practice any of the OT law?
@@deej4527 Hi Dora! These are fantastic questions and honestly some of the most important questions that we can ask followers of Christ. In fact, that is the first question we should ask; what does it mean to be a follower of Christ? The short answer for you as to what a practical life looks like following Christ is this: in everything we come to him in humility and faith. As you say, many Christians get part one of what it means to follow Christ correct, that is they understand that through Christ's blood we have atonement for our sins (justification). What now? Do we go buy a poster of the 10 commandments and put it on our wall and try to live up to it? I would suggest that doing so would be what we read about it 2 Timothy 2:5 - having a form of godliness, but denying its power. Gal 3:3 asks us if the work was begun in us through the Spirit why we are now trying to finish in the flesh. Not only do our works not save us, they also have nothing to do with sanctifying us (bringing us more conformed to the image of Christ)! Our pride and lack of humility is what keeps us going back to our default status of trying to produce these fruits on our own. This is not to say that when God gives us opportunities to do his work that we don't act. On the contrary, the parable about the three servants who were entrusted with an amount of money while their master was away shows us that God provides us with the means, and we act on what he has given us, BUT we do so while still relying on him in humility and faith (as the servants had faith their master would return and humility knowing that none of what they were given came from themselves). I know its rather taboo to put links in comments, but I highly suggest you listen to this entire series by pastor Bob Hoekstra: livinginchrist.org/portfolio_page/growing-in-the-grace-of-god-in-depth/. To answer your question about me keeping the law: if I keep any part of the law it is by the grace of God and work of the Holy Spirit in me that I do it - the sermon on the mount is meant to highlight the fact that we are absolutely incapable of keeping the law, but we are taught that when we come to Christ in humility and faith that HIS righteousness is imputed to us! Amen and amen because if it were up to me to keep any of the law for any purpose I would fail until the day I die. I live by the new covenant - not the old; not meaning that the old has by any means passed away because until the heavens and earth pass away not one letter of the law will disappear, but Christ's sacrifice was once and for ALL - how great of a message is it that when we are in Christ we are absolutely forgiven and can continue to trust in His promises to transform our hearts to produce these fruits in our life without having to manufacture these fruits ourselves?
@@sadkingbilly3308 I feel like you have me two answers?
"If I keep any part of the law it is by Gods grace and the Holy Spirit"
Is that a bad thing to try to strive to keep the law? I feel like you keep going back to keeping the law for salvation. That is not the argument for me. I know I cant keep the law even close to perfect...like you said...by the grace of God. But answer me this? Why would I not try? As you said it will not pass away...what is it there for then? Seriously? I have been studying this for over a year. I cant get away from how clear it seems to me that we should be trying in all sincerity with our hearts try to follow the law....knowing it will not gain us access to hevean but that God wants us to do it because his law shows us how to love our neighbor and how to love God. Why would we not try to follow His perfect example? I dont get why this is sooo wrong. Can you answer that?
@@deej4527 Because by trying to keep the law you're missing out on the freedom that we have in Christ to depend on him and allow him to produce the fruits of the law in our lives without us having to try. It is not wrong in the sense that you will lose your salvation for trying to keep the law after having understood that we are justified by faith alone, but in your attempting to keep the law by yourself the only thing that you are doing is burning yourself out because Christ IS sufficient to transform you. It's like this - Imagine you have a brand new car and you invite all of your friends over to see your car. Everyone is standing around your car and you suggest that you all go for a ride in it together to feel how well the car drives. Everyone piles into the car except for you; you go around to the back of your brand new car and start pushing as hard as you can to try to move your car. One of your friends gets out and takes you to the front of the car and then shows you the engine - they then show you how to start the car and how the gas pedal works. All this to say a Christian who is trying to live up to the law to sanctify themselves after they have already put their faith in Christ for salvation is like this person who gets a new car and tries to push it themselves instead of using the built in power system to move them forward - this power system is the grace that we receive through faith. This is all to say that truly God promises that in Phil 1:6: "being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
" You will become very disappointed in yourself if you try to live up to the law - God shows us that He has something better for us through Christ Jesus. Ask yourself what is the purpose of the law?
119 says they want dialog and correction, but they don't allow discussions. And I’ve experienced serious shenanigans on Hebrew Roots channels that do allow discussion. If all a channel has are glowing comments without serious debate, they've probably shadow-banned many believers who made good points they don't want you to see. And by the way, several channels banned my reasoned arguments while leaving crazy troll's comments alone, so don't be fooled by the presence of trolls that a channel is open to criticism because it's not the same thing.
Conjecture
Andre Colon what part of what I said do you consider conjecture?
Saved by Grace I know, I hate when some videos make comments impossible
Yep. Philia ministries deletes all brainy comments with opposing viewpoints to theirs and then calls people slanderers for merely disagreeing with them.
He told to Jews to keep his laws for all time for all generations and to teach their children. And it means they love Him back with all their heart. He told them to write his laws on their hearts. So it is true for the Jews but not for us? We are all one people when we serve the Lord.
That is right- Abrahams seed heirs according to the promise--
2 Tim 3:16 says "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right". "All Scripture" cannot refer to the NT since it wasn't compiled yet. It's referring to the OT (Tanakh).
Amen
I understand why you say what you say. Because the Tanakh is what Yahusha taught from. Having said that, it is not true, that only the Tanakh is the "all Scriptures" because when Paul/Shaul wrote this, was post Yahusha's teaching (the Gosples). Therefore All Scripture will include the Tanakh and Renewed Covenant. The disciples were relaying the Teaching of Yahusha in the Renewed Covenant.
whois ittoday That's not what the bible says, stop quoting from a new world order bible version.
can we get a library tour examination video?
we are all made one in christ and obedience is commanded
Mike Clenaghen
Yes. Obedience to the new covenant commandments given by Jesus to His apostles.
@@evanu6579 sin is breaking the law. Period
Mark mark
So if you don’t make pilgrimages to Jerusalem then you’re sinning?
@@markmark7151 What law? American law? Turkish law? Israeli law??? Etc etc?
@@markmark7151 You sin by saying that we are under the law when the scripture says we aren't. Going against the word ain't good.
1 Timothy 1:9
If Paul says the law was made for sinners? Wouldn't that mean that the law was made for everyone?
Sanctifiedby Christ is our righteousness. The law was made for the unrighteousness, those without Christ.
@@beckyfrechette4439 NOOOOOO the law was made for everyone, is just that we are not saved by it, we are saved by grace.
@@AliceSusanHarding And by grace alone through faith plus nothing.
@@jugerknott09 Yeah but faith without works is dead.
@@AliceSusanHarding There are dead works which are not of faith. And there are works of faith that are fruit of having faith. Faith is in the spirit. Unbelief is not. The Law of Moses is NOT of faith. The Law of Moses was until the Seed came, which is Jesus, and faith. Galatians 3.
Walking in the Spirit by faith is fulfilling the Law of Moses. We are dead, raised by the power of the Spirit, walk in newness of life as regenerated born again transformed people. We are not mere men but a new creation in Christ Jesus, which is Israel per Galatians 6:16.
So Alice, works do not justify us no. But real faith has an evidence seen by works. It's spiritual fruit. Like a tree of a certain kind will have the fruit of the tree. We being in Christ the True Vine will bare "Jesus/Spirit" fruit. This is for the pleasure and glory of the Father. John 15.
Law of Christ.
Love Me. Obey Me. Abide in Me. Bare fruit in Me. The Father loves Jesus because He laid HIs life down. The Father loves us as we lay our lives down too.
Hear My voice. Learn From Me. Follow Me. Abide in Me.
We are Jesus' friends and not mere slaves if we obey Him. He then shows us through the Holy Spirit things to come and all things of Jesus. We do the Father's will and hence know of the doctrine. We then are taught by the Father.
Here in this chapter Jesus speaks how He is hated. The Father is hated by the them as well. And, if we are abiding in Him they will hate us too. That's the way it goes. Happy are you when men hate you and speak all manner against you falsely for My names' sake. Rejoice and leap for joy for great is your reward in heaven, for so did their fathers to the true prophets.
Walk with Jesus by walking in the Spirit through faith. Glory in the cross.
All of us are born again Christians. None of us believe you have to follow the law to be saved. We do believe that God never ended his request to celebrate holidays like Passover, and he never authorize a celebration of things like Christmas. We all know that Jesus was the son of God and that he came in fulfillment of the scripture hence the Hebrew roots
The Lords Supper is the fullfillment of the Passover. No need for Gentiles to celebrate Passover. Christmas is the celebration of Jesus birth. We also celebrate Easter and Pentecost and their is no Bible command to celebrate those either.
It's fascinating that the 7 Appointed Times God gave His people all tie together to depict the life of Yeshua/Jesus and to symbolize the new life of believers as we walk out our faith. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ (Yeshua haMashiach) according to Moses.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
1 Passover/Pesach
He died as the Passover "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world."
We die to our sin and leave our sinful ways.
2 The Feast of Unleavened Bread
He was sinless. The Word lived out perfectly in wisdom in a human body.
We examine our lives according to His Word and confess our sins and walk in His ways.
3. Feast of Firstfruits
He resurrected from the dead.
We are raised up from spiritual death to walk in newness of life, following Him to one day experience a complete resurrection.
4. Shavuot/Pentecost Feast of Weeks
He sent His Spirit to indwell believing hearts.
Our hearts are changed and we are transformed to hear Him and follow His Way.
5. Yom Teruah/ Day of Trumpets
He will come again, announced as King.
We welcome our King and His kingdom.
6. Yom Kippur/ Day of Atonement
He judges the world.
We who are in Him, part of His body are seen as righteous, by His eternal Word in us. His Spirit sanctifies our Temple. His blood, the Word, has transformed us. His Word washes us with truth.
7. Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles or Booths
He tabernacles again on earth, to reign over all in justice and peace.
We who love His law will reign with Him.
So what your saying is the Word from John 1:1 is not the same word given by G-d? Mr Winger, you have just spoken of another Jesus, another gospel.
I think you should study into Logos and the Greek understanding and philosophy behind it
When jesus died for our sins the law was no longer needed in stone it was planted in your heart by the holy spirit who keeps you from breaking the law we are not saved by the law but by the blood of jesus who paid our debt so if you trying to do the law to get you to heaven it will do you know good it is what christ did not what we can do
Angela Crutcher - amen...the Holy Spirit guides us back to the Law (now written on our hearts and minds) and helps us stay on Yeshua’s/Jesus’ Way, which is God’s Way, which we find by reading and doing the rules to live by found in the ‘Old Testament.’
@case930 we are saved by the blood of christ no works or deeds will save us no one can boast about what they have done it is only what christ has done that give us everlasting life now we will be rewarded for our good works but good works will never save your soul.
@case930 abraham believed god and it accounted to him unto righteousness without faith it is impossible to please God when Israel was in the wilderness and made idols it was because of unbelief so that's why they suffered because they didn't believe God, our works unto salvation is like filthy rags and without the shedding of blood theirs no forgiveness of sin so we trust in the shed blood of Christ to pay our sin debt.
What exactly are we grafted into if not the family that is Israel???
@USCmusic10 what verse is that?
Romans 11
The Messiah revealed the true intentions of everything. He revealed the hearts and true intentions of the Pharisees for example. As for the Torah, the purpose was to have everyone live in peace, love, harmony, and prosperously with the father and each other.
Exactly opposite - I have peace that never leaves, no unsettling feelings. If I’m doing something wrong I bring it to God and ask for forgiveness and if I need help with something I ask God for help. The people around me that don’t believe have not yet come to God, asked for forgiveness for sin and received Jesus.
Overly simplistic?!?!
@15:45 you mention it is overly simplistic and manipulative to say, "if you love me, you'll do this for me......"
You know who said that? Jesus did!
"If you love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15
Please reconsider. I am praying for you these coming weeks as you tackle this further. I once set out to prove we didnt need to follow the Torah and the Spirit opened my eyes to the truth and I ended up writing a long paper about how scripture does not say what you are claiming. I love you as a brother in Christ, and please continue the conversation in a loving way. This needs to be discussed! God bless you!
You missed his point. When the used the example "if you love me, you will do this for me", if is not Jesus speaking, it is a flawed human. A person could say "if you love me, let me do drugs". This is not even remotely equivalent to Jesus saying "if you love me, you'll keep my commandments". What were Jesus' commandments? “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” - Matthew 22:35-40
This is perfectly consistent with faith apart from works and orthodox Christianity in general. If you don't love God with all you heart and you are not treating your neighbor as yourself, you are not born again and thus not saved. The scripture tells us over and over, in many ways, this is a heart issue and that our words and actions are the product of our heart. Jesus' good fruit bad fruit analogy is one example. A good tree, produces good fruit in the same way a born again believer's nature is transformed such that good works are the natural product of our new nature bring us into conformity to Christ.
@Ναζωραῖος Thank you for such a thoughtful response. You clearly have been wrestling with this topic for some time and I appreciate anyone who cares enough about finding the truth to do the research and not just let others tell them what to believe. I pray that God will be gracious upon you and your family and that He will bless you with understanding and knowledge that comes through the Spirit.
At the conclusion of the wisdom book of Ecclesiastes (verse 12:13), scripture reads, "Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind." Note that is does not say the duty of the tribes of Israel but the duty of all mankind.
My question for you is this: Can you show me where in Scripture God amended this decree?
Also, per your comment above about the dietary laws. Another question I have for you pertains to prophetic writing in Isaiah. In chapters 65 and 66, scripture twice uses the eating of pig's flesh as a characteristic of those who are the enemies of God and recipients of His judgement. Why would that matter if "all food has been made clean"?
You can even see that at the end of chapter 66 that mankind will be coming to worship Jesus as He sits in His throne in Jerusalem every Sabbath. Zechariah describes God withholding rain from the nations that refuse to come worship during the Feasts of Tabernacles. These are all prophetic passages describing what will take place when Jesus returns. Why would scripture make these claims if the Law no longer was applicable?
Have a wonderful day and God bless you!
In your most recent livestream regarding “I create peace and evil,” you plainly and clearly defended Torah obedience.
Mike winger, I realized how you are doing exactly what you have criticised about 119 ministries. You are are making all these statements and making all these questions before ever going to one scripture. 24 minutes of this. Mathew 7:5
I thought the same thing. I appreciate the respectful way you approach this. But it saddens me that while I understand having your guard up as you listen to the teaching, but you never stop and try to consider the possibility that you might be wrong about what you believe the application for Torah means for the Gentile believer today. If the Psalmist speaks so elaborately of the goodness of God's Law/Commandments/Precepts/Statutes and in doing so established the longest chapter with that central theme - we must stop and ask ourselves if we truly understand the fullness of God's intended plan regarding His Commandments and its application for the Jew and the Gentile as we are one in Christ.
From the time I repented and turned in faith to Christ Jesus at 15 years old (24 yrs ago), I had a sense of things not adding up as I studied the Word and hearing some of the teachings from church. I even decided to attend a Bible college in my city to learn how to study and rightly divide the Word. Even using methods of Apologetics, etc still felt what I was reading/studying was not consistent with some areas of teaching in "good" Bible based circles. This was long before I ever heard of any Hebrew roots or Torah observing Christians. And i know many others who can say the same. So the beginning remarks in the 119 video may seem manipulative to some, but right on for others.
Mike, and others who are reading this, just pause and pray and ask God if there is something in this he wants you to see. Really, an earnest request of His guidance. Just Consider, Study, Research. Mike, have a real conversation with John or someone from the ministry and wrestle with God in the scriptures together. Get a better understanding of what it looks like to observe Torah today - it actually isn't much different from your walk in Christ now. For example, including holidays that God calls HIS appointed times and the Sabbath (Fri evening to Sat evening) - a day to be set apart (Holy unto God), which He established for man from the very beginning (Gen. 2:1-3). See how it all points to Christ, his first and second coming - and rejoice!
Blessings