The Sudden Popularity of Feng Wei in Tekken
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That still doesn't change the fact that there are 49 million kangaroos in Australia and there are 3 million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay each person would have to fight 14 kangaroos
big math...
These numbers have probably since changed as this is a old joke. I wonder if the odds have tipped in favor of the Uruguay people. One can only hope
And still they didn't include Roger junior
Haha. I bet you have been saving this one for a special occasion. Like a Tekken video.
Facts
Feng has been my homie since T5. Plus, he reminds me of Retsu from Baki!
Feng Gang!!
same bro
Baki anime made Kenpo look godlike and I was all about it
Retsu Kaioh is def the reason i play him lol
Nice try but i am top comment bruh
Harada is a genius. He blinded everyone from how strong Feng Wei is now. After many years, everyone caught on to him buffing only his main. 😂😂😂
Damn he is an evil mastermind and now the plan has been unfolded haha
yeah lmao he's been slowly just feeding his main buffs throughout the years
I always knew that something wasn't right, when I saw Harada play Feng
Nice try but i am top comment bruh
playing against feng is like staring at a huge sign that says "you're -40 frames"
FUCKING FENG DESTRYOYING EVERYONE IN RANKED
Nice try but i am top comment bruh
Here in the Philippines, people know how strong Feng is because of one player: Titan Thor. He is one of the best Fengs in the Philippines but what made him stand out of his use of the ki-charge setup and parries
i discovered him on YT about half a year ago. dude is nuts. he ran into knee online and beat him clean when people were doubting his skill
@@FortuneKOF
You have a Link to that encounter with Knee?
I follow him too his amaIng
@@UltimateBallaPOM lemme search it up
th-cam.com/video/WKgN20lFQ-U/w-d-xo.html
My sweet summer child, if you haven't heard of SenDC you haven't seen a truly scary Feng player. He's the strongest Feng player in the ph that even Sunchip recognizes.
I remember at Rev major in the phillipines knee showed off his feng tech but at the time he hadnt yet acended and JDCR’s dragunov was too strong, we didnt see that much of his feng since his recent switch that really showed off how effective that style is and how he benefited from getting buffs all these years
I was just about to comment about that Rev major set. Knee was picking Feng like 5 years ago.
I think Knee's engagement with Pakistan really perfected his overall play style and allowed him to use Feng to an even greater effect. Back then vs JDCR I recall it very much felt like the players were mostly restricting themselves to 2D movement, whereas after training against Arslan that 3rd dimension is utilised to an equal extent.
I’ve made this statement with my circle as well.
Feng was my first character in Tekken I dedicated myself to learning and I only picked him because I thought he looked cool. I just started learning to play well enough with him and now everyones saying hes too strong and needs nerfs. Feelsbad.
Don't sweat it feng gang baby 😎😎😎😎
All characters go through waves … if you enjoy his mechanics keep playin him and dont worry if he gets buffed or nurfed
no matter what everyone says, just stick to your character whatever the patchnotes look like and you'll be fine
Character Loyalist will always be better people than those only picking a character because they are meta
Same, started with Feng but I now main Law because playing Feng feels kinda cheap
If no one was expecting a surge of Feng Wei players after knee dominated evo with him, idk what to tell you lol.
Anyone else recognised Feng’s true potential by Titan Thor?
I kept getting DESTROYED by my older brother's Dragunov but switched to Feng for the first time: changed my entire tekken play and go on streaks in the double digits. Now that he is buffed? People including my brother complain, like with Fahkumram all over again.
It probably helps that Feng's kit is a natural, deliberate counter to Drag's. It's why Knee used him so much in S1 and then pretty much completely dropped him until recently.
Maybe we complain because, you know, it's not fair?
@@Vastolorde091 cry
@@mapuangames5847 lol I don’t even use feng but it is funny when someone cries about it
@@mapuangames5847 Yeah because asking for balance is cry. You people are very smart.
When Feng read the dragon scrolls it was atually the patch notes for his buffs
just to clear things up Knee was using Feng since 2017. no way these newer people put feng wei in the map
Yuu and Hao were playing Feng back in 2010. I think Yuu placed 2nd to JDCR in the world championship in 2012
I've been playing Feng since T5 lol. He's always been strong
as a steve player feng was always unfair to play against
Everything he said was dead on accurate!
When he gotten that new screw, those combos open up an can of worms 🐛 for other players!
Feng has always been awesome
Fun breakdown as always tmm. I'm very curious about the day where we all finally have to settle with how this game remains. How much longer will they keep "patching up" T7? I'm no know-it-all on that field but could one of the reasons behind the next Tekken's slow development be due to the community's insatiable need for balance?
@Focused Obsessions if people kept buying DLC Bamco wouldn't have nerfed them
T7 needs patches because people won't keep playing the same game for 2 another years. Well pro's would but average players would just switch
Since I came back to Tekken 7 a couple of days ago (told myself I'll come back if there's no Jack in top 8 at evo) I have fought: Kuni, Zafina, Eliza, AK, Negan, Leroy, Master Raven, Yoshi, Drag, Hwo, Law, Akuma, Kazuya, Kazumi, Lili, Lars, Xiaoyu, Kuma, Miguel, Bryan, King, Steve, Josie, Katarina, Jin, Asuka, Alisa, Leo & Eddy. So far not a single Feng. Guess they're all in higher ranks :D
Anyway, having fun rediscovering Anna. It was between her, Zafina and Kunimitsu and I was undecided but she's the character I remembered the most about (took me like 5 minutes to remember the basic combos) and then I found out there's a Bayonetta mod for Anna (and omg it's a perfect match) and that was that.
Arslan Ash was the first guy who highlighted through his tier-list that Feng is the third strongest character in the game after Akuma and Geese. Plus he also mentioned that Feng is Zafina's bad matchup. After his tweets I knew Knee was going to play Feng. Knee's engagement with the Pakistani Tekken has helped him improve and make good choices. That is amazing in my opinion.
Love Feng. Shifting Clouds has alot of cool interactions. Apparently Hwoarang's unlockable counts as 2 attacks?
Edit: as for your commentary, I agree with most of the buffs being necessary, but I want to keep the db 3 throw. It just looks so cool!
Nice vid TMM. Definitely made some good point that i were not looking at. Definitely changed my mind over some things.
Damn he's really on this Feng thing
Tekken community is hilarious. “Bob is broken” is going to be next😂
Thats what happens when their mains are not as strongs as others
Thanks for this great explanation 👍
Today, players are talking about how everyone is now noticing that Feng Wei is such a strong character and was a dark horse before. He was like a hidden gem which nobody noticed. Believe me guys, a day will come when players will talk about Bob and Shaheen and how powerful they are as these 2 characters have almost everything and you can pressurise the opponent by doing heavy mixups. Bob and Shaheen are still hidden gems.
Shaheen is really strong but takes the Jerry for being too strong he's a perfect Mishima perfect mixup and evasion and has really strong punishment
Bob got nerfed hard
I don't understand how nobody noticed him. I feel like a person doesn't understand the fundamentals of this game if they think these aren't strong characters.
@@salemalk8474 I don't think so that Bob got nerfed bad. He's still a powerful character. Btw he got UF4 in season 4 which is a safe homing launcher.
I feel you, man. Imagine Knee had won with Alisa. Same bs would be talked about her then
He always been strong, well to me. As soon someone wins a tournament with a character, the popularity rises, same with Kazumi in 2019.
Dragunov's golden times when jdcr won back to back tournaments as well. S4-5 are JDCR's worst times because all of his mains litterally died from nerfs lmao
JDCR wins back to back tournaments dominating with dragunov > nerfed to death
Arslan dominating EVO with kazumi > nerfed to death
i think there were more instances where someone won a tournament and their character got nerfed to the ground i think Lowhigh with Shaheen as well.
@@OrdinaryApprentice99 You're making a great point. I guess the teams purposely made the characters strong, so people can complain about them so the characters can be nerfed? Same way with Qudans winning a tournament with DVJ. DVJ may still been strong but he has been nerfed ever since. Same way with Panda, the character has also been nerfed after that.
@@momop788 In some way yes but no. Devil Jin‘s core strength UF3 was never nerfed even after what Qudans did because he’s a Mishima. But I agree he was S Tier when Qudans won and A to A+ ever after
I don’t know what his nerfs were tbh probably dmg and frames nerfs.
If you remember they always give characters new moves for every season. That’s why they were so powerful in variety. 4.0 was DLC dominating everything and 5.0 is basic characters again.
And I think they will do another patch because this one is SO underwhelming by the community and litterally everyone complained about it + Feng is way too strong right now. 100% another balance patch this year probably after TWT
But as a reminder Anakin won CEO and Jack hasn’t been nerfed. So regular characters tend to be left as they’re as we saw with devil Jin before
All right 👍 I'm joining the Feng Wei party!
Yes I agree with you, But there's another character buffed from the beginning is Notics with his invisible long swords, Could reach you from a mile !!! 😅
What's the music in the background??? :)
It has to be with the carisma and charm of the character what makes your choice, if that wasn't the reason, every body will be playing characters like feng wei, leo, claudio... instead of legacy characters and the ones they think are cool.
Personally I love playing Jin because i love Kyokushin Karate, is my first character also. And i have been through problems with his range, but is just time and patience what leads to victory with him even when he is supper buff, you cannot just pick him and wait for him to get you a victory.
Feng all day baby return of the earthbender 🔥
even if a character is buffed or not. in the end you have to master a character to be a good player. it's so sad that everyone is always complaining about each character when he got buffed. just play the game with your favourite character and study frames and start to practice. instead of always complaining.
People complain for a reason. Top players want to win and care about picking the best characters.
This, thank you. People need to stop whining and enjoy the game, you'll win some, you'll lose some
Found the Feng user
i used feng fr back then just because it was toxic before and hes really good so thats why i dont use him no more cuz it was too easy to get past ranks, so thats why it motivated me to play other characters
TMM is right !! We will indeed see more feng! feng is chosen by pro players because its their full time job to study frames and compete well. Being sponsored makes you responsible to pick the character that will allow you to WIN, failing your sponsor gets you dropped.
Although most of us dont play professionally the content we consume online features pros so we will all be seeing more and more feng!
anyone know what music was in the video?
now feng wei is lore accurate, he did obtain the secret scroll after beating jinpachi and punched an entire mountain in half, now we can be his mountain.
I've been told this is a lore friendly power spike
FENG IS THE SLAYER OF GUILTY GEAR WHEN IT COMES TO BACK DASHING
This was all part of Harada's plan...
Feng Mengs.... We have arrived...
Anyone who has seen DreadPrince play knew of Feng's potential. S4 really took him over the top with df43, db3 ch thing, and the punch parry window increase, not to mention damage buffs. I think he wasn't particularly good in S2 and 3, but in S4 he was really powered up. I think in s4 the reduced wall carry does affect him a bit, but he's still super strong. I think the reason they buffed the damage on shoulder and other things is because of the HP increase across the board, they didn't want to screw poking heavy characters. But with the new combo potential, Feng had lost his only true weakness.
You excel at this. By far one of or if not the beat tekken creator, analyzer and combo maker in the business. Kudos main man
Best
Feng forces you to play small tekken, and some people whose gameplay is based around mixups find this difficult 🐉
temple gang where u at
People always get their big moves back kenpo'd 🤣
I just got on tekken 5 Fengs in a row like wtf 😭😭😭😭
So I think Feng is a great example of the correct way to buff a character over time. He isnt really playing a different game like the 2d characters and by no means is he boss character broken. He just has essential tools that make him an overall good character. Meaning no gimmicks, just fundamental stuff. I think they could make minor changes to other characters and basically balance the game out entirely. Which is unlikely but you never know
feng is broken and braindead
As long as I been playing feng I’m happy 🤘🏾 because everyone was sleeping on him
Feng Wei's been a top favorite for me since Tekken 5. Him and Raven.
Mainmanswe is extremely underated
Imagine he didn't get combo buffs and that db3 CH animation. He would actually be a great character like back in Season 1.
Ncl là giờ nó OP vlin ông ạ.
There are so many Feng mains in the Philippines who love the fact that his moves are busted and abuse it. Waiting for the nerfs to come because its tiring to fight to 4th Feng in a 5 man battle
Wuss..
Get good scrupman
I think Miguel has also become strong because now his SAV UF3 is a counter hit launcher. It is fast, mid, safe on block, wall splat, good range, creates good distance on block and this move itself on counter hit gives 30 damage.
He is, i think if he had his SAV tools not locked behind a stance he would’ve been op despite his jab range lacking
@@LuxionXB yes, btw if tekken developers give him these 3 buffs, I think he'll become op
1. Forces opponent to full crouch on SAV DB3
2. SAV B1,4 becomes safe on block
3. If they bring back his Tekken 6 F2 which was a fast counter hit launcher and I think it was safe on block.
@@thefirestone8705 Yeah, it's nice they gave him a 12 frame punish (i think), but removing his old F2 was so stupid, it was one of the only good things he had
Mainman can never look at the bigger picture but it gives him free content like these videos so people eat it up
Tekken 7 has had bad balance because they don’t know how to fix outside of damage routinely
Ive been using feng wei since he came out. Very under rated character
People don't know Feng was already good when Hao was using it early tekken version days and Knee used to matched up against him like scrims for online contents and team tournaments preparation. Early Feng users knows thst Hao was the template and some variations or changes were added due to update on their movements.
I've been getting back into Tekken after having not really played since season 1, and the amount of shit Feng's been given is absolutely fucking staggering
His combos were horrible at launch, and it was such a shame after having some cool stuff in Tag 2
Bro feng has always been a top tier and popular character this video isn't needed tmm real tekken enthusiast know all about him 😎
Was needed so noobs can use him to cheese... lol.
@@REolino I don’t think Feng is a cheesy character at all. He just forces the opponent to THINK before throwing out brainless moves.
@@REolino lol they will cheese with his ass in a heart beat 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
damn... Been playing Feng for a long time and I never wanted everyone to catch onto him.
Tekken world tour final review ?
Damn. I haven't played Tekken 7 in like 2 to 3 years and he used to be my main. Scared to get back in with his incoming nerfs lol
Please make a S5 tierlist
Feng has always been strong af. He's one of the few characters where I don't feel like I got cheated when he beats the shit out of me.
Feng always been a monster and strong tournament char beside tk5dr.
even Harada use fang right? if i remember correctly
While Caiper beating Arslan with Feng was probably an upset to some, I don't think it meant much in the grand scheme of things. That kind of thing happens regularly. And sure, Feng was already said to be strong even in earlier seasons. But this goes for a lot of other characters as well, people saying this and that are "top-tier" or "one of the best characters in the game" (Jin, Julia, 2D chars, etc.) yet we never saw these characters much or they never got any grand final wins. Even after multiple buffs, absolutely none of these things about Feng would be talked about had Knee not won EVO with him. So yes, Knee put him on the radar.
got tired of facing feng in ranked, just going to wait for tekken 8
Ranked is a mess nowadays. I feel like I shouldn't be seeing orange ranks with 300,000+ level prowess. People just staying in low ranks to beat up on noobs or what? 😵💫😂
@@seanyoung9014 Alot of players with TG and above ranks use their secondaries alot in ranked. So not shocking to see many players these days in orange to purple ranks with 300k+ prowess.
i'm literally finding sweaty mishimas that play absolutely crazy for me in fucking green ranks
This is revenge for nerfing him after vanilla Tekken 5
So hard finding matches online these days on Playstation. And once you find one, it gives you "connecting" for like 1-2 mins before it times out. The hell is going on? And I'm on wired with 750 mbps FFS!
Thats insane he wasn’t as popular a long time and no one noticed how strong he was till knee started using him.
Knee play feng 2017
Knee used him against JDCR's drag and lose
That's literally the point he argued against in the video lol
Harada playing his main: 🙈
feng has been top tier in every game, i'm not sure how people forget the tekken 5 tournaments that were feng v feng for 3+ years.
I can tell you why he is suddenly popular and S tier. Its 99% because Knee won. EVO with him. The problem sometimes with tier lists and popularities is that people only follow pros or other certain people and their opinions. They don’t think for themselves and repeat what others say. No one played feng before knee and he wasn’t popular nor considered super SSS Tier. But now he suddenly is. He was always very good
you cant talk about feng wei without talking about titan thor
Because of Knee, there.
feng is a 'death by a thousand cuts' character due to high evasion. now he has damage and evasion lol
He has always had evasion though. That’s his archetype
@@blockchainballer4542 I think what they're saying is he had evasion but now has damage *and* evasion. Basically emphasizing that the two stack
@@blockchainballer4542 he has evasion and small damage. that was his original design. his gameplan was to frustrate and cut you little by little. now he hits like a truck
JDCR also used Feng this EVO
feng was my first main on my psp
my very first console
now im more on jin...
feng was hard to beat like zafina..
Feng was always cool
Love your in-depth videos
Tekken is crazy man
I guess 1 question would also be, how far is he on the competition?
Even though they say he is really strong, I still dont see him far over other characters even if the previous top 10 got nerfed.
An example was the matches Knee recently had on the 5v5 match. Yes he won against them, but judging the characters used against his Feng it seems that its still just on par as Knee mostly won with just a sliver of life and on the 3rd matches against them. I wont deny though, Feng is strong.
feng still don't have a lot of the stuff that made the stereotypical t7 broken char broken. he got pawk now he got better kambow doesnt seem the strongest argument for him being that super duper tippy top. like ok they went a bit far with the buffs but tbh he was kinda helpless in a bunch of areas before them, i dont believe in the "always been mega strong" story
The seventh vid about Feng wei ?
As a feng main … I love the complainants and cry baby’s😂
@@Devogor congrats brotha👌🏼
Big factz don't cry dry your eyes 😂😂😂 #fenggang
He’s been crazy and I’ve been saying for longest that the people that were saying he sucks are crazy as well lol
My biggest problem with this character is that he’s a god at poking and evasion. Which would be fine but he can also magically be an amazing turtle with the back sway. So when it finally is your turn (it never is), you have to go try and catch him and hope he makes a mistake and whiff
Ah, and his combo game was buffed as well so his advantage state is good
He's also extremely safe on a lot of his moves. This becomes a case of countering the player not the character
@@raveelemental4928 it's the opposite case really. Feng is so strong, the amount of effort needed to produce wins is low compare to other characters. Weak and strong alike
As a Feng main he became really boring for me.he is too strong yet so easy to play. There is No challenge reaching TGP for this beast.
At least with geese and akuma, you need your brain to do a combo because of the execution requirements but with feng wei you only need half your nervous system this
Includes the character as a whole.
@@whatwhy6349 I was talking about playing against Feng, not as him. You might not enjoy him, but a lot of people just want the free wins with a braindead character. No way around it unless Feng gets nerfed
how are you calculating so fast
I remember when Feng was first introduced in vanilla T5 that he was actually pretty popular, he was even one of my go-to characters initially, I loved playing as him because he was really strong, nobody knew how to fight him and even the A.I could be cheesed by him easily, so I used to play him against friends, in arcades, in survival and arcade mode to abuse the red light trick in order to get a boat load of game currency, but for some reason I dropped Feng Wei before I even got to play DR and never really paid attention to him in 6 and Tag 2, it wasn't until relatively recently in season 4 that I decided to pick him more often than usual.
Feng was my main in Tekken 5 too
@@alexfzg9936 He wasn't my main, Paul was always my main, but I really liked Feng Wei when I was initially introduced to Tekken 5, I still think he was a good newcomer, but he's far from being one of my favorites.
Harada really waited for 3 seasons to make his main completely busted.....unfortunately Akuma is still too strong even for devs
yep
hello to all Feng players I just discovered something quite interesting. As you know before the 5.01 update it was possible to follow the b1+2 just after his ff3 or his db1+2 which was guaranteed but the update made this impossible. But I realized that after a wall splat if you did f4.3 you could guarantee b1+2. Try it, it works quite well. Don't give me back it's gifts 🤣
Thanks
What about paul, zafina, Akuma?
Paul is definetely top 10 now after the top tier nerfs
I now feel bad for liking Feng; I liked playing him ever since T5 though (I quite frankly never played online and am a huge scrub; but I really like characters like Drag/Bryan/Feng because their strikes really feel impactful to me.. in a way different to other characters)
It’s so weird my friend plays feng so when I put feng in S their a couple of years ago people lost there mind in the tekken group saying an a complete noob for putting him there boom some dude wins a tournament with him suddenly everyone thinks feng is the strongest thing In tekken
Yoshi mainers waiting for buffs since tekken 5: 🤗🤗🤗
Feng is a mishima's worst nightmare. A fuckin mishima killer since t5. Its tough to get in on feng specially once he gets a life lead.
Feng Feng Feng
db3 is +4 on hit btw. thats goood.
Feng Mains finally have their spotlight, Knee sponsored you so you better make it count now. Don't be late to the party.
Tekken 7 ranks player's suddenly become feng & leo mains 🤣🤣
cause they be cappin.
People simply didn’t notice Feng S4 buffs when they were playing launch Leroy instead. They they switched to Fahkumram and then to Lidia. All of these characters were better than S4 Feng at launch. Then they all got nerfed a few times and Feng got slightly ahead. And now S5 nerfs put Feng clearly ahead.
Feng’s i10 CH move feels fair when you compare it to launch Leroy’s CH moves. The i10 second hit had great tracking and it was safe to hit confirm. i12 mid was -4 with pushback. Block it and opponent can still step or backdash and launch you. CH was 80 damage.
b1+2 recovery was insane. You couldn’t whiff punish it on reaction. And it was 20 damage on normal hit against crouchers to. Better than df1 and faster. In comparison Feng’s CH move was unsafe. No wonder they buffed the followup damage. Felt fair vs launch Leroy.
@@CaseOfBears I used to play Feng as second main in S1 and S2, but after that I switched to Leroy, believe me even now Feng can't touch Leroy with all these nerffs.