LISTEN TO THE FULL PODCAST: open.spotify.com/episode/5aOXPwszdV13oe8zd5uakI?si=a90e27f4dde94bd9 CONTENT GUIDE: 00:00 Transcendental moments with psychedelics 00:47 Diagnosing mental illnesses - the nuances 01:12 Experiences with bipolar, mania or depression? 01:19 Devin's time in a psychiatric institution post-manic episode 05:23 Why getting help is important after a diagnosis 06:26 Coming out of the manic episode & the aftermath 07:58 Forgiving yourself 09:56 Starting a meditation practice 10:24 The places psychedelics can show you 11:24 How do I reconnect with that, afterwards? 12:03 Studying meditation & how to do it
As someone with ASD, ADHD, Synesthesia and CPTSD (all diagnosed) this dudes music has kept me alive many times. From SYL to his current work, it just speaks to all of those parts of my personality and made/makes me feel less alone. It’s only recently, with me getting diagnosed and trying to fix it all and Dev opening up about his journey that I realised why. I’m now completely med free and on the path to healing properly. I know you’ll not read this but….thank you for baring your soul and putting it out there Devin. It’s more than just music to me. It’s a path to follow from someone who has similar wiring, has had similar experiences and is further along that path than I am. Apologies for the infodump 😉🤘🏼
Forgiving yourself is huge. Can easily seem like a self-obsessed thing to do, so i never really paid much mind to it, but if you can forgive yourself your unconsciousness, the greater your compassion for the unconsciousness you'll see in others
"I am the coming of a new age" The 'I' in that statement always seemed strange to me, now I know where his head was at the time. Thank you self-awareness, we can all think of several people right now who didn't reach that stage
Yea, going from irl near death experience trying to figure that out, and then going to the same place during a psychedelic trip and then trying to put the pieces together on it all.....unifying for sure.
Hey Christina, glad to see you're still going strong, if you ever want to come to Nashville and get married, or at least just hang out, I'm yours!!!! 😁❤
the anti-psychotic meds he was taking are what was keeping him in his christ complex? is that a known side effect, like doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to?
@@dominique8620 Correct - he's saying that he was in the christ complex mode due to unguided psychadelic experiences that spiralled his whole psyche into a mania-like state which was incorrectly diagnosed at the time as bipolar. The medication he mentioned is what snapped him out of that mania (even though bipolar wasn't the correct diagnosis it still helped) and it wasn't until later on that he questioned "maybe the diagnosis was wrong" which is how he got off of the medication.
If we would've had a Major Record Labels Support just think.... we could have been saved by Cannabis a long time ago! Devin just gets to file his taxes now!
Ok, so how do you meditate in a scenario where you have to forgive others that have truly ruined your daily life and your well-being and you as the person existing in this complete shit show had no control over others choices? Or is this still forgiving yourself?
I do two things when meditating that help with things like this. One is imagining putting those thoughts into a briefcase and putting them on a train. I watch that train take off taking them away. Another is creating folders and putting them in a drawer like you’re in an office. Thinking of someone you can’t forgive? Anger folder, anxiety, unforgivable. Whatever you decide to name the folder. Things that make me happy? Happy folder etc… Imagine putting them in a big ass drawer and now you have a clean desk space to work. Over time those people may go into a different folder like “I don’t care” folder and maybe one day into a “forgiven” folder. Dont dwell and just move on to the next thing you’d put in whatever folder you’ve created for those things. This helps me love more in the moment. I could be having a great time doing something and if that thing pops in your head. You just remember the folder they’re in and put it away. It’s like having a clean room in your head where you won’t dwell on the trash that used to be there. It does take time but I hope this gives you something to work with.
There's also the method of realizing that the worst people are not worthy of your cognitive space, let alone of your hatred. You don't have to forgive others in order to move on. Think of it like a smart and sane way of exerting revenge: they are simply not worthy of your hatred, emotions, or any other space within your cognition - that re-evaluation of their value to you is your act of revenge. It's a way of finding closure, which the mind oh so constantly always craves. A resolution, if you will. In other words, package your grudge in a mental box you label "not worth it", and consider that your act of revenge. May you find peace from unworthy people.
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LISTEN TO THE FULL PODCAST: open.spotify.com/episode/5aOXPwszdV13oe8zd5uakI?si=a90e27f4dde94bd9
CONTENT GUIDE:
00:00 Transcendental moments with psychedelics
00:47 Diagnosing mental illnesses - the nuances
01:12 Experiences with bipolar, mania or depression?
01:19 Devin's time in a psychiatric institution post-manic episode
05:23 Why getting help is important after a diagnosis
06:26 Coming out of the manic episode & the aftermath
07:58 Forgiving yourself
09:56 Starting a meditation practice
10:24 The places psychedelics can show you
11:24 How do I reconnect with that, afterwards?
12:03 Studying meditation & how to do it
I needed to hear your podcast today, thank you.
As someone with ASD, ADHD, Synesthesia and CPTSD (all diagnosed) this dudes music has kept me alive many times. From SYL to his current work, it just speaks to all of those parts of my personality and made/makes me feel less alone. It’s only recently, with me getting diagnosed and trying to fix it all and Dev opening up about his journey that I realised why. I’m now completely med free and on the path to healing properly. I know you’ll not read this but….thank you for baring your soul and putting it out there Devin. It’s more than just music to me. It’s a path to follow from someone who has similar wiring, has had similar experiences and is further along that path than I am.
Apologies for the infodump 😉🤘🏼
I've been a fan of Devin since he was singing for Vai.
Saw the Sex and Religion tour...
Devin is the greatest artist of any genre, of any era...
Devin is one of the most gifted musicians out there!
I didnt know I wanted to listen to Devin sharing his experiences so bad. An asolute Legend of a guest you got there Christina!
Thank you for this great interview and speaking about these important topics! ❤
Very interesting insights, thank you! Devin is one of my biggest heros.
Amazing episode, Extremely helpful, and grounded.
Forgiving yourself is huge. Can easily seem like a self-obsessed thing to do, so i never really paid much mind to it, but if you can forgive yourself your unconsciousness, the greater your compassion for the unconsciousness you'll see in others
Such an important conversation
It took me 25 years to realize that not everyone can just simply turn off the mental noise.
took me about that long to realise ANYONE can lol. Wouldn't change it anyway, silence in the brain seems scary
Thanks a lot
amazing
I deal with really bad anger problems as well as survivors' guilt.
Love you, Christina! ❤️🙏🏻
"I am the coming of a new age"
The 'I' in that statement always seemed strange to me, now I know where his head was at the time. Thank you self-awareness, we can all think of several people right now who didn't reach that stage
he smart
it might sound a little but I had really bad time losing the hair. What would devin do, thats something important to me
Yea, going from irl near death experience trying to figure that out, and then going to the same place during a psychedelic trip and then trying to put the pieces together on it all.....unifying for sure.
The system creates mental illness. Big time lately. Big profits
Bingo. I'd say it's the goal
Hey Christina, glad to see you're still going strong, if you ever want to come to Nashville and get married, or at least just hang out, I'm yours!!!! 😁❤
Does anyone have the exact name/author of the book they mentioned, please?
“An Unquiet Mind” - Kay Redfield Jamison. As soon as I heard them drop that I bought it, myself.
Thank you very much!
the anti-psychotic meds he was taking are what was keeping him in his christ complex? is that a known side effect, like doing the exact opposite of what they're supposed to?
I'm pretty sure he said they instantly brought him back to earth
@@dominique8620 Correct - he's saying that he was in the christ complex mode due to unguided psychadelic experiences that spiralled his whole psyche into a mania-like state which was incorrectly diagnosed at the time as bipolar. The medication he mentioned is what snapped him out of that mania (even though bipolar wasn't the correct diagnosis it still helped) and it wasn't until later on that he questioned "maybe the diagnosis was wrong" which is how he got off of the medication.
If we would've had a Major Record Labels Support just think.... we could have been saved by Cannabis a long time ago! Devin just gets to file his taxes now!
Ok, so how do you meditate in a scenario where you have to forgive others that have truly ruined your daily life and your well-being and you as the person existing in this complete shit show had no control over others choices? Or is this still forgiving yourself?
I do two things when meditating that help with things like this. One is imagining putting those thoughts into a briefcase and putting them on a train. I watch that train take off taking them away. Another is creating folders and putting them in a drawer like you’re in an office. Thinking of someone you can’t forgive? Anger folder, anxiety, unforgivable. Whatever you decide to name the folder. Things that make me happy? Happy folder etc… Imagine putting them in a big ass drawer and now you have a clean desk space to work. Over time those people may go into a different folder like “I don’t care” folder and maybe one day into a “forgiven” folder. Dont dwell and just move on to the next thing you’d put in whatever folder you’ve created for those things. This helps me love more in the moment. I could be having a great time doing something and if that thing pops in your head. You just remember the folder they’re in and put it away. It’s like having a clean room in your head where you won’t dwell on the trash that used to be there. It does take time but I hope this gives you something to work with.
There's also the method of realizing that the worst people are not worthy of your cognitive space, let alone of your hatred. You don't have to forgive others in order to move on. Think of it like a smart and sane way of exerting revenge: they are simply not worthy of your hatred, emotions, or any other space within your cognition - that re-evaluation of their value to you is your act of revenge. It's a way of finding closure, which the mind oh so constantly always craves. A resolution, if you will. In other words, package your grudge in a mental box you label "not worth it", and consider that your act of revenge. May you find peace from unworthy people.
There nothing wrong with you Devi, you aren’t mental, just creative and pushed yourself too far. No one should be on meds.
pink hair man and long hair silent woman are amazing
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