SR Brant actually it was mindless it just learned all that through all its victims once infected all your thoughts and information is taken by that flood member and after that all the flood know.
@@KALOTO_OFFICAL gravemind is more complex than this. it's the hivemind of a collective conscious of myriad floods body masses. "i am the embodidment of your sins" maybe the link between flood and precursor is not that ridicule after all
When he said that line it always made me wonder how old it was. I mean it did say it defeated fleets of thousands and consumed an entire galaxy of mind and bone in Halo 3 (assuming it wasn't an over-hype of the war with the "original" Forerunners and actually meant that the flood originated from another galaxy). This is of course before 343 got involved.
Love how the Gravemind has to stop, and shudder in rage when it says the word 'containment.' Really shows just how much it despises the Forerunners for creating the rings.
Never thought of it like that, I always interpreted it as the gravemind essentially clearing his sinuses. Like Bungie was trying extra hard to go for that disgusting vibe with the gravemind
A hivemind comprised of rotting corpses merged into one mass A nightmare forged from fear, hate, rage and endless hunger And to make matters worse, it can dish out poetry
It’s not rotting flesh per say, maybe moldy flesh, since the flood is kind of like a fungus, but it’s more mutated flesh, even dead bodies are brought back to life, in a way.
Kristofer Mercer It is rotting flesh. I believe it’s in Halo: The Flood where it details how food cells break down your body on a cellular level, snapping bones and popping organs, and it specifically mentions breaking the body down to basically never ending decomposing. This next part is just my thoughts but I believe the Flood decomposes the flesh either to make it easier material to shape and create what it wants, or because he needs all creatures to essentially be the same in order to be compatible so he breaks them down to their raw rotten biomass so he can combine his kills.
General Noodle I don’t really like his voice for the clones, compared to the older versions, but it’s honestly incredible he’s in so many things, all of which sound nothing alike
Biomechanical Brick PT wasn’t given the logic plague just captured well not at that point at least, if he was infected the gravemind would’ve commanded PT to take the quarantine shield himself and deactivate all of the walls defense systems as well as other existing halo defenses, PT’s eye color is also red by default and the way he so urgently ushers to master chiefs side proclaiming the dire state the outbreak was at.
@@Thatonellama63 I don't think so. Now I think the logic plague is just a series of statements that makes ais question everything and convinces them that the flood is actually right in its goal of destroying biodiversity
I think the original cutscene handled its "body language" during that line better - the slow, almost appreciative turn as it examines Master Chief vs the downright dismissive way it turns the Arbiter this way and that.
The arbiter wakes up after getting betrayed by the brute that branded him with a mark of shame, then stole his job, to find himself a prisoner (again) to the one army he couldn’t defeat, along with his arch enemy, his false prophet, and a machine resembling the one who told him his faith was a lie. He probably thought he was in hell.
Mazda Miata Nah man, he lost literally everything, he can’t return to society because high charity has been turned into a flood city. Dude has got it way worse.
2:20 The way the prophet of regret cried out as he was pulled back down to the graveminds underbelly. I got chills the first time seeing this scene remastered.
"This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual." The forerunners -really- wanted to make sure the flood was destroyed, or had no hosts.
Heathen Kaul yeah, you know, they might have went a bit overboard. A galaxy assimilating parasite not capable of feeling pain, the ability to take the the knowledge from the people it infects and control precursor technology capable of shattering giant machines that made halo rings as well as forerunner fleets doesn't seem that big of a deal does it?
We need more plague/infestation/hive mind type villians that are also cultured individuals. Too often the horror of such creatures is sold on the basis that if you become one of them you lose everything, including all that defined the more artistic/intellectual parts of your society. I personally think it's more horrific to think your individualism is lost but that which robbed you of it takes on your intelligence and creativity as some sort of sick mockery.
Part of what made what it did to Keyes so terrible and makes his continued defiance in spite of that even more badass. Mindless zombie. Meh. Alien hivemind rifling through your head, picking out and stealing any memories it deems of note? That's horrifying. Knowing this, keeping the info it wants away from it and drip feeding it memories that contain anything but the info it wants. I don't think there's enough respect around for that kind of sense of duty.
Master Asia Keyes is a badass, but so is the gravemind, to go straight from a few infection forms to an entire hive in at most like an hour, that’s CRAZY badass!
@@callumkristofer7793 Yeah the timeline for the Gravemind growing and assimilating is really fast. Even with 2401 Penitent Tangent being more lax than 343 GS, the rampant growth for the Gravemind is really weird.
Either distortions from being a horrific mass of flesh or has something to do with that there’s probably grunts, female marines, and other stuff within the meat sculpture.
@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 Yes it would, Cortana was held by the Gravemind for around 40 days and in that time she was almost turned, throughout Halo 3 the Gravemind has Cortana sending messages but on the mission Cortana he has her said messages that are literally just him talking and rather than what chief sees being blue/purple the vision is greenish showing shes being turned. Arguably the damage done to Cortana by the Gravemind is what sent her rampant and into the mess we see in halo 5.
The Gravemind didn't want Chief to stop the flood from boarding In Amber Clad so it made sure to send him far away while conveniently giving him the opportunity to get the index
The Gravemind IS all of the other flood. They work as a hivemind, with the Gravemind acting as the central intelligence. He is the most intelligent being in the universe, as he absorbs the memories and intellect of everyone who is infected.
mjkalasky it was still only trying to ensure its own survival. The covenant were about to fire the halo rings. This would kill him and everything with a nervous system.
It's so unnerving to hear the gravemind say, "Your prophets have promised you freedom from a doomed existence, but you will find no salvation on this ring." And the reason all life has a "doomed existence" is because of the very thing that's telling him this.
They way it’s tone gets much more grating and angry as it says, “Those who built this place knew what they wrought.” Is awesome in a terrifying way. Really pissed off at the Forerunners.
I feel so fucking bad for the Prophet of Regret, the amount of pain he must be going through Psychologically and Physically. Not only that he is the only one out of the 3 who thought the Great Journey was actually a thing. The others knew it was a falsehood.
Eh... I would feel sympathy for him if he didn't attack Earth. Not to mention, as you mentioned, he knew the great journey was a falsehood but still decided to wage a genocidal war against humanity just to stay in power (whether he continued to believe in the Great Journey or not)
Pretty sure Mercy still believed. He was the most devout of the three back when he was the Philologist. Truth was the one who least believed fittingly enough.
Well, he's an organic, so I'm pretty sure the Gravemind has completely subsumed him. His "body" now just acts like a puppet that the Gravemind could speak through to manipulate the Chief and Arbiter by saying what it wanted them to hear.
Dead Man I’m guessing you saw the gameplay trailer for infinite. Personally, I thought it was okay. Didn’t really sell it to me, but I’ll wait and see.
@@Destroyer-kr4hm I always wondered that too. I guess one of its tentacles scooped his corpse out through the floor just before it hit. Chief was grabbed mere seconds after so it makes sense.
@@XJ0461C heres another theory maybe when the glassing happened the temple probably collapsed and sunk into the water and thats when the gravemind caught him, my other thought about this was that if chief punched him to death, was he probably resurrected from the gravemind? I mean the gravemind is insanely intelligent after all and probably pulled it off as we saw him alive in this scene, im still trying to figure out how he ended up here
It's honestly chilling the way the Gravemind delivers that line. It could've just simply said it was the Flood, or it was the central intelligence. Instead, it describes itself as something eldritch. Unknowable. Powerful.
@@lancecurry7538that's because it IS. The flood are the remains of the precursors. They made all life and were undying gods. The forerunners killed them, and flood was birthed from the ashes. A corrupted version of the precursors. The minds and power still there. But only when a grave mind is formed does it gain back all it's knowledge. As well as all the knowledge from every grave mind from past and present. The flood a literal punishment
The gravemind is composed of corpses of millions of Beings... rotting corpses mind you, so if one were to smell it, i bet we wouldn't be able to smell anything.
_BUT FIRST IT MUST BE FOUND, YOU WILL SEARCH ONE LIKELY SPOT, AND _*_YOU_*_ WILL SEARCH ANOTHER. FATE HAD US MEET AS FOES, BUT THIS RING WILL MAKE US _*_BROTHERS!_*
I mean if a one man army super soldier that has killed countless of my allies and singled handily took out a super weapon while being the last survivor of a 2 way battle between an all consuming parasite and advanced alien military just suddenly teleported behind me... having a heart attack is just putting it lightly.
I played this on the master chief collection and i kept changing from old graphics to new ones and loved seeing how much it has improved over the years
listen to the Gravemind's voice starting at 2:35 you can hear what sounds like a child's voice slightly coming through. Just another haunting detail about the entity I suppose
Paradoxical Nightmare well yeah, but I was simply pointing out that higher pitched child sounding voice mainly because everyone one expects a bunch of assimilated soldiers and whatnot but to hear a child’s voice in there really hits home just how disgusting and terrible that “thing” is. Probably something to do with instinct or something, acts of cruelty against children are particularly horrible so I think that it was a design choice by bungie or 343 (I don’t actually know which one made this remaster) in order to add to the gravemind’s depravity.
Paradoxical Nightmare you literally did not say that once my man. Not one time. You claimed it was all the voices blending together. All the voices, while it is quite clear it is a child's voice talking behind the adult voices.
My favorite part is the fact that Cortana was speaking inside Chief's mind and Gravemind heard her. Maybe that's headcannon, but I doubt chief's armor has speakers for her to talk through lol
The explanation is that the Gravemind (being the corrupted remenants of the Precursors) can use Precursor Neural Physics, meaning that to him Cortana is just as alive as Chief or Arbiter.
@@justinspeaks.1652 Careful. You're getting into stuff most folks on YT know nothing of. They speak of lore but basically know nothing until they've read The Forerunner Saga.
I wish the Gravemind was expounded upon in the games. It's so fascinating to me as it uses "I" instead of the typical "we" in other hivemind alien species, such as the Geth from Mass Effect. It shows that these space zombies are more than just reanimated flesh. Their "mind" is a fully sapient being that speaks as if it has a Ph.D in Classics and can use dangerous enemies, like the Master Chief and the Arbiter, as its (his?) personal cat's-paws. I really feel like the Gravemind was just so underused, especially in Halo 3, only appearing in those walking fever dreams by the Chief.
They expanded on why he speaks the way he does in one of the books while Cortana and the gravemind are having their conversation in the ending of halo 2 on legendary she asks him why he speaks poetically and the gravemind tells her how scholars and poets have fallen to the flood have influenced his speech
@@listeed1995 so pretty much the gravemind is just one big ass meat computer that downloads and stores all the memories and knowledge of everything it consumes lmao meat computer
Whoever wrote the dialog for the Gravemind is a fucking genius dude. It perfectly encapsulates the feeling of dread it brings with it as well as just making it sounds cool as shit.
I remember playing all the flood missions in the dark, I thought I could handle it because of how many horror movies I watched. I didn't sleep for days after that.
When my two younger brothers played Halo CE for the first time (forever ago) and came face to face with the flood they both balled their eyes out. Afraid to sleep, thought the flood was going to come get them through the TV. My sister still avoids the Library of the first halo. The other games don't bother her as much because of weaker flood, and more non-flood entities on flood levels.
Idk if anyone noticed, but as the Gravemind starts speaking after the Oracle and Regret finish, his voice starts mixing in other tones as if it's multiple voices speaking at once. I wonder if he does this to show how serious he is.
I think it's supposed to be the voice of the Monitor since that "knowledge" is coming from him, about the true purpose of the halos the monitor which spoke earlier and tried to make them understand but used his more technical vocabulary which neither the prophet nor Arby understood, but now, ofscreen, in order to get arby to understand, the gravemind and the monitor try to put it in simpler terms, and thus speak in unison
The original gravemind looked very plant based. Spreading across the ring like mold. While this one looks entirely flesh, and decay. A collective conscience building itself from the bodies of its victims.
You know, I've been thinking. Gravemind could have implanted the Arbiter with some sort of dormant flood entity at any time during his battles with the flood, due to being completely exposed to the spores in the air. As we know, the flood can choose not to convert an organism, so for all we know, the Gravemind could be using individuals like Thel as recon units that don't even know they are assisting it.
All graveminds share their memories, so it basically makes them one. The physical body may have been destroyed but the gravemind itself is far from dead.
The fact that Regret is infected but with his mind still intact means that if the delta Halo fired he would still be around to see that all these centuries of work for his “Great Journey” were all for nothing. And though starvation would soon be a fate for the gravemind to befall, I imagine he’d gain much pleasure from seeing Regret immediately lose all faith in realization.
Assuming Norman R. Dolan being correct, it does make sense regardless since a grave-mind is a flood form made of an enormous amount of biomass. It could have absorbed thousands if not millions of sentient lifeforms into that specific biomass creating it.
Gets seriously freaked out by the new gravemind look, thinking the creepiness will stick with me all day, then *BOO* Instantly laughs, has a great day with that playing a loop in my mind all day.
The Gravemind. The last will of dying and murdered gods. A sentient cancer that knows rage, hate and betrayal. And the voice actor is absolutely amazing
The prophet of truth had such a badass voice in Halo 2. I was sad when he was replaced in 3. Such a pitiful shame that halo 3's story didn't live up to all this rich, rich lore and plotting. And you don't fight Gravemind at the end, just shoot a laser at the oracle and The End. ughhhh, still hurts, 13 years later, it still hurts.
Perfect example of why the Gravemind was probably the most intelligent entity in the story as it is a smashed consciousness of all the most intelligent minds of the Forerunners, Precursors, humans, elites, San'Shyum, everything rolled into one intelligent mind that is constantly learning.
”Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us BROTHERS!” Damn I love that line, Gravemind essentially saying “We were enemies once, but now if we are all to survive, we must unite as friends”
A hivemind composed of rotting corpses merged into a single mass An endless nightmare composed of things passed Spawning hellish creatures and zombie trees And to make matters worse, it can dish out poetry
Played Halo 2 when i was 6 because of the gameplay and had no idea what was going on. I play it now because I understand the story and it's still my favorite Halo game to date.
"Those who built this place knew what they wrought. DO NOT mistake their intent". You can tell by the anger in Gravemind's voice when he says that that he finds the Covenant's ignorance greatly annoying and aggravating. He may be concerned about his own survival, but he of all people KNOWS what the rings are for. This is compounded by the fact he knows that Master Chief ("and has his mind concluded") knows what the rings do, and the little puppet show he put on was solely for Arbiter's sake ("and is the more deluded"). It angers him that the Covenant and by extension Arbiter would so carelessly and ignorantly active the rings, not knowing their true purpose. This shows somewhat some respect for the Forerunners on his part, in that he believes their children should at least know NOT to play with toys they don't understand the purpose of.
To add insult to injury, it has to be extremely exasperating knowing that a human, a species objectively SO far behind technologically than the covenant, still knows better about the purpose of the ring has to be something that makes the gravemind’s collective intelligence hurt like hell.
I think my favorite thing about the Gravemind is it's a great example of how to have a villain with a simple unambiguously evil goal. Even within Bungie's original vision (back before the Forerunners were retconned from being ancient humans to their own species) it still gets this idea across- it wants to devour all life. If you ask it why, it could very eloquently and effectively explain its reasoning in immaculate detail, but no matter what reason or reasons it gives it would just be the long, fancy way of saying "You are my food, and I *will* eat you. It's only a matter of time."
Imagine if something like this actually had existed with the ability to reason and have vast knowledge living underground on Mars or some other planet would definitely be something
Somewhere somehow in the deep endless expanse of the vast universe something like this does exist. Just like in halo it’s slowly assimilating life all over the universe
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That moment you realize the Flood isn't some mindless parasite and that - _holy shit_ - it is intelligent and _literate._
SR Brant actually it was mindless it just learned all that through all its victims once infected all your thoughts and information is taken by that flood member and after that all the flood know.
@@KALOTO_OFFICAL gravemind is more complex than this. it's the hivemind of a collective conscious of myriad floods body masses. "i am the embodidment of your sins" maybe the link between flood and precursor is not that ridicule after all
He has the minds of a thousand poets in his so why waste words on those who don't deserve them
Kalel Smith True. I’m referring to the reaction of players.
SR Brant well the flood don’t think they just do not their fault
"There is much talk; and I have listened through rock, and metal, and time. Now I shall talk, and you shall listen."
The best line in my opinion
When he said that line it always made me wonder how old it was. I mean it did say it defeated fleets of thousands and consumed an entire galaxy of mind and bone in Halo 3 (assuming it wasn't an over-hype of the war with the "original" Forerunners and actually meant that the flood originated from another galaxy). This is of course before 343 got involved.
So the gravemind is a metalhead.
@@BreezeOTM I'm pretty sure (even though warpspeed travel is possible) traveling to a nearby galaxy is impossible in halo.
tbh i could listen to gravemind talk for days
Heck Yeah!
Love how the Gravemind has to stop, and shudder in rage when it says the word 'containment.' Really shows just how much it despises the Forerunners for creating the rings.
Doesn't he chuckle a bit when the Arbiter calls Master Chief "Demon"?
It was more of a disgusted huff
I just noticed that. Nice touch.
Never thought of it like that, I always interpreted it as the gravemind essentially clearing his sinuses. Like Bungie was trying extra hard to go for that disgusting vibe with the gravemind
@@VQM6 no, he was just making those noises to help him pull over chief, chief is a heavy guy, he also had a harder time examining john.
A hivemind comprised of rotting corpses merged into one mass
A nightmare forged from fear, hate, rage and endless hunger
And to make matters worse, it can dish out poetry
Ok so a its basiclay dead space
It’s not rotting flesh per say, maybe moldy flesh, since the flood is kind of like a fungus, but it’s more mutated flesh, even dead bodies are brought back to life, in a way.
Kristofer Mercer It is rotting flesh. I believe it’s in Halo: The Flood where it details how food cells break down your body on a cellular level, snapping bones and popping organs, and it specifically mentions breaking the body down to basically never ending decomposing. This next part is just my thoughts but I believe the Flood decomposes the flesh either to make it easier material to shape and create what it wants, or because he needs all creatures to essentially be the same in order to be compatible so he breaks them down to their raw rotten biomass so he can combine his kills.
Ginger Returns huh, I thought it was easy enough with non-rotten flesh.
Hes more like anti hero, and not a bad guy, this game had the best interaction with gravemind, 3 was also cool.
I absolutely love that the gravemind was moving them around like dolls when they were talking.
I noticed that too lol
The gravemind basically interrupt them to show them his puppet show.
He has probably consumed tons of puppeteers.
Holy shit. I never thought about it from that angle. Thank you lol that's hilarious and terrifying all at once.
When someone plays GMod and discovers ragdolls:
The voice actor for The Gravemind voiced Daffy Duck in Space Jam, and provided the noises for Appa and Momo in Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Yeah, he's got quite the acting career...
mjkalasky The 3D one or the old 2D one?
@@159Fender159 3D. He also voices Perry the platypus. Dee Bradley Baker has an enormous carrer in voice acting
General Noodle I don’t really like his voice for the clones, compared to the older versions, but it’s honestly incredible he’s in so many things, all of which sound nothing alike
@@159Fender159 New one. I looked it up for you.
Who else finds the fact that 2401 PT is talking about controlling the outbreak right in front of the embodied intelligence of said outbreak hilarious?
Ironic indeed, Victor.
Biomechanical Brick PT wasn’t given the logic plague just captured well not at that point at least, if he was infected the gravemind would’ve commanded PT to take the quarantine shield himself and deactivate all of the walls defense systems as well as other existing halo defenses, PT’s eye color is also red by default and the way he so urgently ushers to master chiefs side proclaiming the dire state the outbreak was at.
@@ray-0249 good point
The gravemind cannot change the protocol of these Monitors , but it can CONTROL them directly .
@@Thatonellama63 I don't think so. Now I think the logic plague is just a series of statements that makes ais question everything and convinces them that the flood is actually right in its goal of destroying biodiversity
“This one is machine and nerve, and has its mind concluded.
This one is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded”
Liam Warkentin that’s one hell of a sick burn.
Niggas got bars
Such a good line.
Blaine b lmao
I think the original cutscene handled its "body language" during that line better - the slow, almost appreciative turn as it examines Master Chief vs the downright dismissive way it turns the Arbiter this way and that.
The arbiter wakes up after getting betrayed by the brute that branded him with a mark of shame, then stole his job, to find himself a prisoner (again) to the one army he couldn’t defeat, along with his arch enemy, his false prophet, and a machine resembling the one who told him his faith was a lie. He probably thought he was in hell.
Steam Powered Maniac not only that, but the demon was there.
Sounds like a monday for me.
Kristofer Mercer
That’s what he meant by arch enemy.
Ehh, still beats going to a real life jail and getting ass raped repeatedly. (I was just watching a video about convicted criminals, and prison)
Mazda Miata
Nah man, he lost literally everything, he can’t return to society because high charity has been turned into a flood city. Dude has got it way worse.
The new Gravemind looks like a composition of all fears boiled down into a twisting plant of inexorable torment and lamentation. With teeth.
Anglomachian dayyumn you should write a novel one day lol
I echo Nasheed's regards.
With teeth
So you’re afraid of a talking penis worm?
2:20 The way the prophet of regret cried out as he was pulled back down to the graveminds underbelly. I got chills the first time seeing this scene remastered.
"This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual."
The forerunners -really- wanted to make sure the flood was destroyed, or had no hosts.
That's about 12 million simulations per year, IF 2401 PT ran all those simulations after the Forerunner/Flood War
Yeeeaaah....those promethian knights sounds alot less crazy now that ya think about it
Heathen Kaul yeah, you know, they might have went a bit overboard. A galaxy assimilating parasite not capable of feeling pain, the ability to take the the knowledge from the people it infects and control precursor technology capable of shattering giant machines that made halo rings as well as forerunner fleets doesn't seem that big of a deal does it?
And 1 actual I thought that was a nice touch easy to overlook but Is very impressive
For Thanos?
i love how the old gravemind looked like a booger and the new one is fucking terrifying
No way, it just looks like a bloody penis now. It was way better before.
Actually, The Gravemind looks like a fleshy, bloody, diseased flower...
Aka it looks way better.(Opinion.)
gorginhanson the old gravemind looked like a plant.. this one looks like what it actually is... a giant sentient mass of corpses
Karyuu this ain’t that bad, just ignore his tounges...
@@gorginhanson found the dumbass contrarion
If no one noticed the gravemind often speaks in poems. He is a man of distinction.
He has the minds of thousands of poets and literary artists in his grasps
Jonathon Brown iambic pentameter I think it's called
@@palmeraviles7250 Close, he speaks in iambic heptameter.
@@Sir_Crow Nope, trochaic septameter.
A man, you say?
I can sense the shit eating grin chief has after he caught the needler mid air.
carlos conde shit eating?
Knightly Light It's like troll face. It's weird to explain.
@@amenthegreat3761 a smile that says for the other guy to eat shit
@@rudestdudest826 I'm just gonna go...😂
I can almost guarantee that is the hardest he had to try not to laugh
We need more plague/infestation/hive mind type villians that are also cultured individuals. Too often the horror of such creatures is sold on the basis that if you become one of them you lose everything, including all that defined the more artistic/intellectual parts of your society. I personally think it's more horrific to think your individualism is lost but that which robbed you of it takes on your intelligence and creativity as some sort of sick mockery.
Part of what made what it did to Keyes so terrible and makes his continued defiance in spite of that even more badass. Mindless zombie. Meh. Alien hivemind rifling through your head, picking out and stealing any memories it deems of note? That's horrifying. Knowing this, keeping the info it wants away from it and drip feeding it memories that contain anything but the info it wants. I don't think there's enough respect around for that kind of sense of duty.
Master Asia Keyes is a legendary badass!
Master Asia Keyes is a badass, but so is the gravemind, to go straight from a few infection forms to an entire hive in at most like an hour, that’s CRAZY badass!
@@callumkristofer7793 Yeah the timeline for the Gravemind growing and assimilating is really fast. Even with 2401 Penitent Tangent being more lax than 343 GS, the rampant growth for the Gravemind is really weird.
Master Asia yeah, the gravemind is an even bigger badass in my opinion.
The added growl and reverberation they gave to the Gravemind brings their creepiness to 100 and I think I hear child voices at some point.
If you listen closely, you can here it under his voice. Pretty spooky.
@@trevorderringer269 I don't hear a childs voice.
Either distortions from being a horrific mass of flesh or has something to do with that there’s probably grunts, female marines, and other stuff within the meat sculpture.
Their is no effects on his voice, the voice actor is making all those sounds
@@fornoreasonatall7101 I could honestly believe that, Dee Bradly Baker makes some unholy sounds with just his voice
When an enormous hivemind worm has to talk sense into you.
That's how you get infected with the logic plague
I am would it work on AI hat we’re Originally organic since they would think differently to normal AI
Other Precursors becoming the Gravemind and Flood Legions..
@@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 Yes it would, Cortana was held by the Gravemind for around 40 days and in that time she was almost turned, throughout Halo 3 the Gravemind has Cortana sending messages but on the mission Cortana he has her said messages that are literally just him talking and rather than what chief sees being blue/purple the vision is greenish showing shes being turned. Arguably the damage done to Cortana by the Gravemind is what sent her rampant and into the mess we see in halo 5.
Aw man I hate when that happens
3:24 "Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us brothers" best line in my opinion
halo 3 hints
@@mrnohax5436 Arby and Chief bromance 🥲
The next games, they fight _together_ to stop Truth.
"Only _you_ can halt what he has set in motion."
"This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual."
@@anonymoususer638 "It is ready to fire on demand"
The Gravemind had such confidence in Chief he sent him in the middle of Covenant HQ unarmed
And he did not disappoint...
@finitewehosh6542 Thank you, checkpoints.
The Gravemind didn't want Chief to stop the flood from boarding In Amber Clad so it made sure to send him far away while conveniently giving him the opportunity to get the index
A convenient distraction when he launched the ship In Amber Clad at it…
Its a win win sernario for him
It's weird seeing that the gravemind is somewhat friendly but the flood forms are hostile
lol, he meant it's capable of reasoning, cuz most flood don't really "reason" with anyone.
The Gravemind IS all of the other flood. They work as a hivemind, with the Gravemind acting as the central intelligence. He is the most intelligent being in the universe, as he absorbs the memories and intellect of everyone who is infected.
It's also why after it knew the key wasn't on high charity it tried to kill chief since it had no reason to keep him alive
It's actually only trying to ensure it's own survival...
mjkalasky it was still only trying to ensure its own survival. The covenant were about to fire the halo rings. This would kill him and everything with a nervous system.
It's so unnerving to hear the gravemind say, "Your prophets have promised you freedom from a doomed existence, but you will find no salvation on this ring." And the reason all life has a "doomed existence" is because of the very thing that's telling him this.
And it's existence is the forerunners fault. The ones who made the ring in the first place....damn
They way it’s tone gets much more grating and angry as it says, “Those who built this place knew what they wrought.” Is awesome in a terrifying way. Really pissed off at the Forerunners.
I feel so fucking bad for the Prophet of Regret, the amount of pain he must be going through Psychologically and Physically.
Not only that he is the only one out of the 3 who thought the Great Journey was actually a thing. The others knew it was a falsehood.
Eh... I would feel sympathy for him if he didn't attack Earth. Not to mention, as you mentioned, he knew the great journey was a falsehood but still decided to wage a genocidal war against humanity just to stay in power (whether he continued to believe in the Great Journey or not)
@@BreezeOTM no regret was the only one who didn't know it was a falsehood it was truth and mercy who did.
One might say he is regretful.
Pretty sure Mercy still believed. He was the most devout of the three back when he was the Philologist. Truth was the one who least believed fittingly enough.
Well, he's an organic, so I'm pretty sure the Gravemind has completely subsumed him. His "body" now just acts like a puppet that the Gravemind could speak through to manipulate the Chief and Arbiter by saying what it wanted them to hear.
Imagine for a moment, how bad that thing's breath probably is.
Imagine the stench of a thousand corpses.
@@charleswinters9567 billion
Probably better wearing Quarantine gas Masks for not let infection virus Goin down your throat with lungs..
Good thing chief's helmet has a filtering system.
@@vin-dog575 True.. But Arbiter taste prophet breath in Halo 3 Truth Death cutscenes..
Solid music, design, and dialogue. This IS halo at its finest.
Halo 2 was 10/10 when it came to storytelling and dialogues. The Prophet of Truth and the Gravemind are fine examples of this.
One of the greatest games of all time back in the early 2000s and its still Iconic .
Hope the next halo is as good as this.
Dead Man I don’t think it will be man, but I can only pray
Dead Man I’m guessing you saw the gameplay trailer for infinite. Personally, I thought it was okay. Didn’t really sell it to me, but I’ll wait and see.
I love how regret yelps a bit as he's taken away to get fully melted into the flood lol
@Speedart Otaku Didn't they hit the temple he was killed in with a fuckin glassing beam how is there anything left of his body
I’ve always wondered what was going to happen to him at that part.
@@Destroyer-kr4hm I always wondered that too. I guess one of its tentacles scooped his corpse out through the floor just before it hit. Chief was grabbed mere seconds after so it makes sense.
Gives me the creeps
@@XJ0461C heres another theory maybe when the glassing happened the temple probably collapsed and sunk into the water and thats when the gravemind caught him, my other thought about this was that if chief punched him to death, was he probably resurrected from the gravemind? I mean the gravemind is insanely intelligent after all and probably pulled it off as we saw him alive in this scene, im still trying to figure out how he ended up here
"I am a monument to all of your sins"
Gets me every damn time. Holy shit this thing is menacing.
It's honestly chilling the way the Gravemind delivers that line. It could've just simply said it was the Flood, or it was the central intelligence. Instead, it describes itself as something eldritch. Unknowable. Powerful.
Best line.
@@lancecurry7538that's because it IS. The flood are the remains of the precursors. They made all life and were undying gods. The forerunners killed them, and flood was birthed from the ashes. A corrupted version of the precursors. The minds and power still there. But only when a grave mind is formed does it gain back all it's knowledge. As well as all the knowledge from every grave mind from past and present. The flood a literal punishment
Who else wants to hear the Gravemind deliver slam poetry?
That comes in Halo 3
Victor Jechart fuck that I want him to voice a virtual assistant or would I be it’s assistant why do I feel slimy
I want him to read smut to me
I'd love to have a conversation with him itd be cool
@@Guardsman123 oh Shit with infinite having the super intendant as an AI that would be cool
The gravemind is composed of corpses of millions of Beings... rotting corpses mind you, so if one were to smell it, i bet we wouldn't be able to smell anything.
Articus Ramos y?
@@someidiotlmao4428 Cause our noses would be destroyed by the sheer stench.
K makes sents
@@Obozo_Gaming so... it could have the intelligence to make a chemical that wouldn't make it so damn stinky?
@@Obozo_Gaming good, good
"Those who built this place knew what they wrought, do not mistake their intent, or all will perish as they did before."
"This thing is right, Halo is a weapon. Your Prophets are making a big mistake."
*ARBITER:* Your ignorance already destroyed one of the Sacred Rings, Demon. It _shall not_ harm another.
_IF YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE TRUTH, THEN I WILL SHOW IT TO YOU! THERE IS STILL TIME TO STOP THE KEY FROM TURNING_
_BUT FIRST IT MUST BE FOUND, YOU WILL SEARCH ONE LIKELY SPOT, AND _*_YOU_*_ WILL SEARCH ANOTHER. FATE HAD US MEET AS FOES, BUT THIS RING WILL MAKE US _*_BROTHERS!_*
Master chief:”BOO”
Grunt: *has a heart attack*
id too have a heart attack if master chief was behind me
@@iambumbo7534 especially in the alien world he is considered a demon
I mean if a one man army super soldier that has killed countless of my allies and singled handily took out a super weapon while being the last survivor of a 2 way battle between an all consuming parasite and advanced alien military just suddenly teleported behind me... having a heart attack is just putting it lightly.
@@yoruichixx6951 master chief is basically doomguy for covenant
"Understandable, have a nice day."
I played this on the master chief collection and i kept changing from old graphics to new ones and loved seeing how much it has improved over the years
Same. I did too and it is a big surprise what people can do with it's graphics after years it was released
I am a timeless chorus. Join your voice with mine and sing victory, everlasting!
The fact their inteligence is akin to the precursors in that their hive mind can never truly be destroyed makes that quote scarier
I thought it was timeless curse
listen to the Gravemind's voice starting at 2:35 you can hear what sounds like a child's voice slightly coming through. Just another haunting detail about the entity I suppose
Spooked
Paradoxical Nightmare well yeah, but I was simply pointing out that higher pitched child sounding voice mainly because everyone one expects a bunch of assimilated soldiers and whatnot but to hear a child’s voice in there really hits home just how disgusting and terrible that “thing” is. Probably something to do with instinct or something, acts of cruelty against children are particularly horrible so I think that it was a design choice by bungie or 343 (I don’t actually know which one made this remaster) in order to add to the gravemind’s depravity.
Paradoxical Nightmare no, it is a child's voice. It may seem less clear but in the original you can hear it quite clearly for a second or two.
Paradoxical Nightmare you literally did not say that once my man. Not one time. You claimed it was all the voices blending together. All the voices, while it is quite clear it is a child's voice talking behind the adult voices.
Paradoxical Nightmare Oh. Sorry. From what I read I thought you were implying that it was just adult flood victims. Sorry about that.
My favorite part is the fact that Cortana was speaking inside Chief's mind and Gravemind heard her. Maybe that's headcannon, but I doubt chief's armor has speakers for her to talk through lol
The explanation is that the Gravemind (being the corrupted remenants of the Precursors) can use Precursor Neural Physics, meaning that to him Cortana is just as alive as Chief or Arbiter.
Given enough time, it’s shown that the flood can infect technology using the same sort of neural physics
@@justinspeaks.1652 Careful. You're getting into stuff most folks on YT know nothing of. They speak of lore but basically know nothing until they've read The Forerunner Saga.
@@justinspeaks.1652 this is fanfiction
Well, Johnson heard her thank him for the tank, remember? It's played aloud in the cutscene
I wish the Gravemind was expounded upon in the games. It's so fascinating to me as it uses "I" instead of the typical "we" in other hivemind alien species, such as the Geth from Mass Effect. It shows that these space zombies are more than just reanimated flesh. Their "mind" is a fully sapient being that speaks as if it has a Ph.D in Classics and can use dangerous enemies, like the Master Chief and the Arbiter, as its (his?) personal cat's-paws. I really feel like the Gravemind was just so underused, especially in Halo 3, only appearing in those walking fever dreams by the Chief.
They expanded on why he speaks the way he does in one of the books while Cortana and the gravemind are having their conversation in the ending of halo 2 on legendary she asks him why he speaks poetically and the gravemind tells her how scholars and poets have fallen to the flood have influenced his speech
@@ReqchV1
Oh shit, that makes a lot of sense now
@@listeed1995 so pretty much the gravemind is just one big ass meat computer that downloads and stores all the memories and knowledge of everything it consumes lmao meat computer
Something I can't unhear: "Stay where you are! Nothing can be done until my snowman is complete!"
Do you wanna build a sermon?
This is honestly one of the best cutscences in all of the halo games.
When bungie left I knew 4 and 5 will be bad
@@hunterofdarkness8329 at least they didn't return, the new bungie is terrible, but we all miss old bungie
@@forwarduntodawn. true
I don't want THAT to be my brother.
ikr? it can't even hold an Xbox controller!
If there's one thing that I don't want it to be more than my brother; it's my enemy.
i d
"You can choose your friends but you cant choose your family"
Join us...in assimilation.
Whoever wrote the dialog for the Gravemind is a fucking genius dude. It perfectly encapsulates the feeling of dread it brings with it as well as just making it sounds cool as shit.
"Boo"
Wait...the Chief has enough humanity to understand humour?
He's thrown around some quips here and there, remember when he purposely crashed the Banshee when landing on the Pillar Of Autumn in the first game?
Bruh Chief's always been a wisecracker.
Remeber when he said "don't get any funny ideeas" when he put cortana in his helmet for the first time.
He's a Spartan of coarse he knows laconic phrase...
I just imagine under his helmet when he says that line,he has the biggest shit eating grin like he's holding back laughter XD
I remember playing all the flood missions in the dark, I thought I could handle it because of how many horror movies I watched.
I didn't sleep for days after that.
When my two younger brothers played Halo CE for the first time (forever ago) and came face to face with the flood they both balled their eyes out. Afraid to sleep, thought the flood was going to come get them through the TV. My sister still avoids the Library of the first halo. The other games don't bother her as much because of weaker flood, and more non-flood entities on flood levels.
The cinematic in CE where you discover the flood is pretty intense for kids too hahaha
No one can blame you!
MSL G&M rip
Kain Hearth my cousin was like that too. We could never play the flood levels, she’d always just drop the controller or pause the game.
Idk if anyone noticed, but as the Gravemind starts speaking after the Oracle and Regret finish, his voice starts mixing in other tones as if it's multiple voices speaking at once. I wonder if he does this to show how serious he is.
Kinda like the Master in fallout 1
If you listen closely you can hear a high pitched voice resembling a childs voice
I think it's supposed to be the voice of the Monitor
since that "knowledge" is coming from him, about the true purpose of the halos
the monitor which spoke earlier and tried to make them understand but used his more technical vocabulary which neither the prophet nor Arby understood, but now, ofscreen, in order to get arby to understand, the gravemind and the monitor try to put it in simpler terms, and thus speak in unison
"This one is machine and nerve and has its mind concluded. This one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded." Poetry lovin' flood ass
When CHIEF says he'd rather not piss something off, you might wanna watch your attitude with said "thing"...
Likely true..
Thel’s balls are big and dense enough to have their own gravitational pull though so he should be fine
4:29 "Kill the demon". Well if you ever played on legendary you will die in about 1 second haha
i know thats the worst part of the first half of the level! getting out!
Worst moment in the Legendary campaign.
@@BreezeOTM Yeah. Those damn Brutes were like "Well Ok!" and slag Chief and the wall if you don't move immediately.
Jump up into those stands/bleachers, it ended up saving my ass.
Yes, It took me like 5 or 6 times to make it alive.
By the way, Gravemind’s voice actor did appa and momo in Avatar: the last airbender. Now when I hear those two all I can hear is flood sounds
Thomas Corr wow that is....wow
He also plays the Clones in Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars: Rebels.
Didnt momo make squirrel noises??
Say sike rn
Thomas Corr oof
The original gravemind looked very plant based. Spreading across the ring like mold. While this one looks entirely flesh, and decay. A collective conscience building itself from the bodies of its victims.
You know, I've been thinking. Gravemind could have implanted the Arbiter with some sort of dormant flood entity at any time during his battles with the flood, due to being completely exposed to the spores in the air. As we know, the flood can choose not to convert an organism, so for all we know, the Gravemind could be using individuals like Thel as recon units that don't even know they are assisting it.
the gravemind is dead as dicks. 10 years ago in halo 3
Will Powers he's dead
person all graveminds share a mind and memories, if a new one comes it will be the same as this one
if halo wars nightmare awakened is canon then its possible that here are another gravemind hiding somewhere .
All graveminds share their memories, so it basically makes them one. The physical body may have been destroyed but the gravemind itself is far from dead.
The fact that Regret is infected but with his mind still intact means that if the delta Halo fired he would still be around to see that all these centuries of work for his “Great Journey” were all for nothing. And though starvation would soon be a fate for the gravemind to befall, I imagine he’d gain much pleasure from seeing Regret immediately lose all faith in realization.
Poor regret pulled deep into the bowels of the monsters stomach jaws to be probed from the insides by the alien abomination 😂
big squishy worm friend is right! halo bad!
No! Halo Good! >:( -Arbiter
Vinyl_Guynyl Ring bad, kill all, trust big hentai friend, he rite. :3 - Chaster Mief.
Gotta love how the Arbiter gets a face full of the Gravemind’s visage and then immediately turns and calls Master Chief a demon
Bro said “oh cool, a Brute’s intestines on steroids. Hey, it’s that guy that cost me my job!”
The fact that the gravemind speaks poetically in iambic pentameter freaks me the hell out
Actually, he prefers trochaic heptameter. At least, that's what my sources have said.
Assuming Norman R. Dolan being correct, it does make sense regardless since a grave-mind is a flood form made of an enormous amount of biomass. It could have absorbed thousands if not millions of sentient lifeforms into that specific biomass creating it.
"There is much talk, and I have listened; through rock, and metal, and time."
My god the writing in 2 was ice cold.
Gets seriously freaked out by the new gravemind look, thinking the creepiness will stick with me all day, then
*BOO*
Instantly laughs, has a great day with that playing a loop in my mind all day.
Why does a grunt even have a needler drawn in the presence of a hierarch? That's grounds for immediate execution within the Covenant
Because one needle is not enough to kill someone and grunt always fire in 3 round burst with needlers
Insane monkey Zipzap in game thats how it works but in canon no one needle can kill the prophets
True but Ripa Moramee in Halo Wars pulled out his energy swords in the High Prophet of Regret's presence and he didn't get executed sooooo
@@WhyTho525
That was due to his obvious ruthlessness. Especially compared to a lowly grunt
@@listeed1995 That makes sense
This is honestly my favorite halo moment
This is my favorite Halo.
His growl when mentioning containment really characterized the Gravemind. Gives the flood a creepy intelligence while staying as parasitic monsters.
"I...I am the monument.. to all your sins...."
👍
"Relax. I'd rather not piss this thing off."
Demon!
@@clan_boyd "This one is machine and nerve, and has its mind concluded. This one is but flesh and faith, and is the more deluded..."
It's really interesting how a gravemind managed to form directly within the halo's control room.
Chief : "relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off"
Arbiter: *“DeMoN”* 🤣🤣
The Gravemind. The last will of dying and murdered gods. A sentient cancer that knows rage, hate and betrayal. And the voice actor is absolutely amazing
This is how I remember the Original cutscene looking like when I first watched it.
This is solid proof that dialogue can be 10 times what gameplay is.
2:15 I have (and always will) LOVE the way Gravemind's voice shudders in disgust when referencing the "Containment".
If Keyes suffered like that inside just a proto Gravemind, then imagine how it must have felt being assimilated into a gravemind itself
Poor regret pulled deep into the bowels of the monsters stomach jaws to be probed from the insides by the alien abomination 😂
When the grave mind says containment he shutters in disgust
The prophet of truth had such a badass voice in Halo 2. I was sad when he was replaced in 3. Such a pitiful shame that halo 3's story didn't live up to all this rich, rich lore and plotting. And you don't fight Gravemind at the end, just shoot a laser at the oracle and The End. ughhhh, still hurts, 13 years later, it still hurts.
Elijah Lewis agreed! Gravemind was wasted and the story lost all that epic scale!
Amazing how calm Chief is during this
He’s good at controlling it, he was absolutely terrified of the Flood in the novels
Perfect example of why the Gravemind was probably the most intelligent entity in the story as it is a smashed consciousness of all the most intelligent minds of the Forerunners, Precursors, humans, elites, San'Shyum, everything rolled into one intelligent mind that is constantly learning.
2:09 me to the government
Coronavirus much
very good meme
This aged very well
LOL
Say what you will about the Gravemind, his iambic septameter game is on point.
I like how 2401 PT is talking about the importance of containment after his own negligence in containing it.
”Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us BROTHERS!”
Damn I love that line, Gravemind essentially saying “We were enemies once, but now if we are all to survive, we must unite as friends”
"This instillation has a successful utilization rate of 1.2 trillion simulated and 1 actual."
Chilling line.
It's ready to fire on demand.
Dee Bradley Baker is such a talented voice actor, I was shocked to find out he was gravemind
Fuck I can't get over how well they did gravemind. 10/10
3:38 that view of high charity with the halo ring while the great schism occurs is one of the best shots in halo 2 in my opinion
The graphics have improved. In the old version I literally had trouble distinguishing the face of the the gravemind from its sides and behind.
I think for once out of the entirety of Halo that Chief was actually in fear. Pay close attention to the way he first speaks to Arbiter...
If you were in front of a universe ending parasite that could assimilate you into an eternity of torment wouldn’t you be scared 😅
Massive props to Arby for not losing his lunch as an enormous mass of fungal, rotting corpses breathed into his face from mere feet away.
_Man,_ I love the sound of the Arbiter’s armor plates clicking against each other.
A hivemind composed of rotting corpses merged into a single mass
An endless nightmare composed of things passed
Spawning hellish creatures and zombie trees
And to make matters worse, it can dish out poetry
Arbiter being manhandled by a giant abomination made of melted zombie corpses
*Sees Chief*
"DEMON!"
Played Halo 2 when i was 6 because of the gameplay and had no idea what was going on. I play it now because I understand the story and it's still my favorite Halo game to date.
Grunt has Master chief at point blank
Master chief: boo
Grunt: aight ima head out
Master Chief: yo man pass me your gun!
Grunt: What's the magic word?
MC: Boo.
Grunt: *tosses gun to Chief* Fair enough,have a good day.
I love how they put these characters together. All different points of views so arbi could finally understand.
“Kill me or release me, parasite. But do not waste my time with talk” Arbiter is such a badass
"There is much talk, and I have listened, through rock and metal and time. Now I shall talk, and you shall listen..."
"Those who built this place knew what they wrought. DO NOT mistake their intent". You can tell by the anger in Gravemind's voice when he says that that he finds the Covenant's ignorance greatly annoying and aggravating. He may be concerned about his own survival, but he of all people KNOWS what the rings are for. This is compounded by the fact he knows that Master Chief ("and has his mind concluded") knows what the rings do, and the little puppet show he put on was solely for Arbiter's sake ("and is the more deluded"). It angers him that the Covenant and by extension Arbiter would so carelessly and ignorantly active the rings, not knowing their true purpose. This shows somewhat some respect for the Forerunners on his part, in that he believes their children should at least know NOT to play with toys they don't understand the purpose of.
To add insult to injury, it has to be extremely exasperating knowing that a human, a species objectively SO far behind technologically than the covenant, still knows better about the purpose of the ring has to be something that makes the gravemind’s collective intelligence hurt like hell.
I love how the gravemind let penitent tangent loose just enough for him to argue with the prophet of regret.
When you want to make iambic pentameter _absolutely terrifying._
I think my favorite thing about the Gravemind is it's a great example of how to have a villain with a simple unambiguously evil goal. Even within Bungie's original vision (back before the Forerunners were retconned from being ancient humans to their own species) it still gets this idea across- it wants to devour all life. If you ask it why, it could very eloquently and effectively explain its reasoning in immaculate detail, but no matter what reason or reasons it gives it would just be the long, fancy way of saying "You are my food, and I *will* eat you. It's only a matter of time."
Just my theory, but it really sounds like Gravemind is mimicking the librarian at 2:37 in the undertones of his voice, as a subtle mockery.
0:14 My foreskin when it attains sentience:
😭😭
And this is how the Hardest Halo Mission Ever starts
“Fate had us meet as foes, but this ring will make us brothers” that was a good line.
4:22 Master chief being "funny" lmao
We used to get great writing like this. Now we get the halo tv show
The way the gravemind says containment is like he has disgust and discomfort saying it at the part the oracle yells at the prophet of regret
Imagine if something like this actually had existed with the ability to reason and have vast knowledge living underground on Mars or some other planet would definitely be something
Somewhere somehow in the deep endless expanse of the vast universe something like this does exist. Just like in halo it’s slowly assimilating life all over the universe
“This is not your grave... but you are welcome in it.”