Shocking Airbus A320 Crash In Pakistan - The Full Story of PIA Flight 8303
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2024
- With the Final Report finally released, this air crash investigation of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Flight 8303 which show you the full story from the investigation of the Airbus A320 that crashed in Pakistan in 2020. Breaking down all the details and showing the actions taken by the crew before and during the flight, prepare to be shocked by the chain of events that led to this disaster.
Many factors were at play during this incident, including a poor level of Crew Resource Management, fasting and lack of practice due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
The longest Air Crash Investigation on this channel, this incident deserves the time dedicated to it to fully discover the full story from that fateful day.
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"Any system malfunctions?"
Yes....The 2 knobs in the cockpit completely failed....
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I mean it shouldn't be funny considering but still 😂
And that's the magic of comedy! Being able to laugh which helpes talking about serious matters... That comment is funny! 👉😜💨
Anyway, best wishes to all decent people from Prague, Czech republic!
Me enjoying too much this comment, but also have to mention, I have nothing personal against pakistani airlines. (I am Tarom airways experienced passenger, this happens to me once when was a child) @@Zyo117
PIA:- Sounds like a you problem, noob!
@@Gotcha6666 U silly Cun*s wudnt be laughing if a member of your family had been on that flight I reckon ....
In all my years, I don't think I've ever heard of a more egregious lack of airmanship in commercial aviation. Absolutely disgusting and defies belief!
On 24 June, 2020, Pakistani aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan told Parliament that 262 of Pakistan's 860 active, licensed pilots had been found to have suspicious or fake licences. They were suspected of having paid someone else to take their certification examination on their behalf. PIA subsequently grounded 150 of its 434 pilots on suspicion of having a bogus license.
I´ll raise you LaMia 2933. Attempting a flight knowing you don´t have enough fuel BEFORE you take off was even worse.
Same thing in Canada many Indian/Pakistani Truck drivers don't really know to drive.@@TheGrimStoic
Not if you are looking forward to virgins in the after life. This was an all muslim flight.
As an IT Engineer, our country has had a lot of Pakistani immigrants come to our country who all seem to be IT Engineers! Anyway a new team of IT Engineers were made for a very popular world known IT business, that I also began with at the time.
Whilst helping clients in remote Desktop stuff (all the usual IT common knowledge). One of the Pakistani IT guys with a claimed Masters in IT (definitely above my qualifications) asked me: _How do I open Control Panel_ ?
'Control Panel' would have to be the most basic of basic things to know! Its like a plumber asking: How do I connect pipes together? Or: Where do I find pipes in a house?
I quickly informed him (as he was still doing Remote Desktop to his client. And then asked: What exactly are you going to do in Control Panel anyway?
He said he was going to check the User's password.
I said: You don't do that in Control Panel, we do that in Active Directory! (these thigs are like the most basic No1. thing any IT tech learns).
Over the next few days I listened on to his 'assistance' with clients.
He would actually say: Give me password now!
Whilst its true IT Engineers may require User passwords (if we don't reset them). We NEVER say: _Give me password now_ Since, that's not how assisting people speak.
My Manager was also Pakistani, and I think they made a mistake hiring me who actually knew IT stuff. As it was beyond obvious these new team members had never done an IT course in their life.
Suffice to say we lost the contract! Only myself and my team lead stayed for another 2 weeks, then we had to leave too. Since 'the team' completely messed up the entire contract!
Pakistani 'IT Engineers' continue to be the main IT people in my city. Their manner (on phone < always) still seems to be the same. Little knowledge, extremely rude, and racist against me the country of origin.
I've never seen so much negligent piloting in one video. Unbelievable.
Is anyone really surprised that such could occur in Pakistan?
Believe it or not, this is actually pretty impressive piloting for PIA or Air India!
Okay, Air India is better than p.I.A@@GuyNamedSean
*that the typical attitude of Pakistani mentality every one thinks they understand better in this case air control warm them go around but they refused it that's the series breach it's not happened first time when pilot refused obeyed ATC*
@GuyNamedSean bitch please air india is a kickass airline.
The Captain says "He (the ATC) will be surprised at what we have done." Unfortunately, everybody surprised what they've done.
Very true!
@@CuriousPilot90 Thank you for the video. AFAIK this is the most detailed recreation on the TH-cam.
I appreciate that. I took a while to make. I was waiting for the final report to be released which was released last month so all the facts can be shown!
And we all think their Doctors are qualified 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Even the pilots themselves
The final report:
"Section xyz: Contributing Factors:
a. I mean, where the fuck do we even start?"
India don't burn dead body not allowed
LMFAO
@@Mshi- jesus was not killed nor jesus was crucified
BRUH
I was in a study room in the uni library with a bunch of engineering kiddos reading the final report for an assesment. I was going through it and my level of disbelief was so obviously palapable most in the room that by the end of it 5/8 were sitting there, jaws on the floor, dead silent, as I read the finally summary of the report.
Absolutely unbelievable. There was not a single thing wrong with that aircraft. Given the level of training, standardised procedures and technology we have to mitigate the possibility of this happening made the sequence of events one of the most horrifying and tragic incestigation reports I have ever read. This never should have happened.
It's probably best they try without paying passengers! This just accident just blows my mind 😮
@@Stephanie-we5epIndia don't burn dead body not allowed
@@GuitarRyder11India don't burn dead body not allowed
Dog not allowed ect
@@REBECCA12341 ? When did I say anything about that??
This was the single most stressful Aircraft crash I've ever seen, by a huge margin. "They will be surprised when they see what we have done." understatement of all time.
Varig 254
It’s hard to believe that two professional pilots could’ve made so many mistakes. Although fasting was not indicated as a major contributory factor, one has to wonder if it’s safe for pilots to fly whilst undertaking such practices. This is one case where religious freedoms should not take precedence over public safety. Great video, thanks 🙏
Nothing professional about these two.
*can i ask why pilots have tunnel vision or wear horse blinkers that they CANNOT see what the other pilot is doing or lack peripheral vision ?*
Sensory overload
It was covid protocol being observed---covid masks on fulltime.
professionals.??..they are maniacs..PIA has been banned & black listed from all European operations..because they're crazy...disregarding basic safety flight rules relying on 'allah' & goats to fly with invalid pilot license. 
I took PIA from Islamabad to Multan in 2010. While it was taxing, the screws or nuts on the wings became loose, and i thought that i would inform the flight attendants when or if we land. Unfortunately or fortunately when we landed, the screws fell back in place making it difficult to explain what i had just seen. I never flew PIA again. I decided to drive from Multan through Lahole back to Islamabad. What a scarey experience!!!!
😳!
Im glad you were okay!
Twilight zone experience lol 😂
Great...bw honestly do you or your family wear seatbelts while travelling to Lahore byraod? Reply on your kids swear...
@@MrGladiator82what has that got to do with anything?
I think a 12yr old kid that has never flown a plane before could have done a better job than these two geniuses.
I was thinking the same thing lol. I remember vividly when my grandfather was getting his pilots license 20 years ago, I was 7 and would play with his flight sim he used to train with, I think it was an early Microsoft one, and when I was 14 I would repeatedly do touch and goes with a 747 on his flight wheel, not even a stick, and had no issues with cross winds and heavy rain.
This whole event was baffling, especially the lack of call outs between the pilots.
@@Shadow_Fingered Reminded me of the days I used to play fsx on 8 frames per second when I was 10yrs old in 2006 🙂 Your grandad must have had a sick gaming setup for its time because flight simulator x at least was extremely heavy on the PC.
India don't burn dead body not allowed
@@Shadow_FingeredIndia don't burn dead body not allowed
@@REBECCA12341 ... What does that have to do with the price of rice?
They weren’t out of practice, they were being idiots. Simple as that. A go around is simple….what the hell
And I’m sure their blood sugar was extremely low not having eaten all day. How ridiculous.
Those idiots could not even take an order from ATC to do an orbit, this beggars belief these idiots put religion and egos ahead of their responsibilities.
and being pakis
@@bicivelo i would like to make it clear that fasting is not required while traveling so these pilots decided on that on their own
@@bicivelo Fasting doesn't hinder comprehension or judgement. Even if it did, the crash and actions of pilots leading to it happened within 5 hours after they started fasting. And the flight was very short. So fasting wasn't a factor here
The levels of incompetence shown by the pilots is absolutely astounding, really just how could you be that bad and still be allowed to fly a plane and they were found to have genuine flight licenses it makes you wonder just how bad the pilots with the fake licenses are. The passengers didn’t deserve to die, but the pilots well that’s another story.
did you just insinuate that pilots and crew deserved to die? After being out of work from the pandemic, and fasting during ramadan, isn't it fair to assume such an accident is more likely? thinking that people deserve to die... I dont know man. thats just weird
@@_e8a Consequences, they ignore all the procedure and suffer the consequences. Your pity and mercy, wont help a thing. Even the supreme beings on the top cant help them
@@_e8ano, this incident is not likely at all. There are a lot of fail safes in place in an aircraft. Even the ATC told them. They decided to deliberately ignore the multiple instructions and warnings given to them by various different parts in the system that lead to this horrific outcome
Its not surprising considering the fact that the pilot had originally failed his psyche evaluation and was deemed to be bossy, quick to anger, unable to cope with stress, and crucially, he was noted to have below average intelligence, with no mechanical or spatial awareness or comprehension. How the hell this man was allowed into a cockpit, beggars belief, until you factor in the rampant corruption, nepotism and pandering to deluded male egotism and pride within pakistani society and civil administration.
This captain was a total egomaniac. This is absolutely nuts.
Right ... Completely ridiculous!
he might not be egomaniac but yeah he was probably nuts or out of practice
You put a lot of work into this, it shows. Thanks!
Thank you very much, I’m glad it shows!😁
Thankyou for the extra sssss
This event was absolutely tragic. I can’t begin to imagine how terrified the passengers must’ve been. Your recount and explanation is as detailed and perfectly executed as ever, and you can really see how much work you’ve put into this video! Especially as you’ve mentioned before that you are an RAF pilot and make these videos alone around work. Thanks again, keep up the great work.
All he had to do was go around 😢
I am *never* flying with PIA *shudder*. I hadn’t actually heard about this, so thank you again for finding a completely new mishap for me. This channel is rapidly becoming one of my favourite. The narration is good, I assume you’re a pilot? You certainly know your stuff. I’m horrified this was so recent and I hadn’t heard about all these fake pilots either. If I ever need to travel within Pakistan, I’m walking!
Thank you, that’s very kind. Without failing into the pilot cliche… even if I go there more than willingly… yes, yes I am a pilot. 😁
@@CuriousPilot90 😂
Better idea would be to simply avoid going to that country.
@@GuitarRyder11they train people? Could have fooled me!
@@richardmartin7824my brother-in-law has been several times with school trips (as a teacher of geography). He says the people are really nice - but nice doesn’t cut it in aviation. I’d rather have a taciturn, grumpy pilot who was a pilot, than a friendly, jovial fake.
After the touchdown, I wonder if a competent crew could have nursed the plane to a better outcome. But it boggles my mind that a pilot so keen on landing would want to take off again after squashing his engines... Great vid!
Even if the speed was down or less than required, I think the oil and remaining fuel would catch fire. Not to mention flights that werent that fast have rolled and shredded before
In conclusion: the crew were not flying the plane.
'If the holder of the licence is aware or has reasonable grounds to believe...'. The airline is setting themselves up for disaster here.
Apart from people not being inclined to admit reduced capacity for any reason, low blood sugar levels can basically render a person legally incompetent.
It can cause lower iQ-scores, irritability to the point of violence, severe depression, and complete apathy.
It's different for every person, but between these symptoms and nobody being completely unaffected by fasting, flying a plane should be exempt. Airline pilots cope with enough stress, irregular schedules and long hours even without fasting. There are exemptions to religious fasting and pilots should be included. Or fast but not fly.
I loved this long format video as it provides an opportunity to go into much more detail, which you provided excellently.
I hope you have the time in your otherwise busy life to do more of these long format videos.
I agree that this was a good video. It's my first time seeing Curious Pilot. I look forward to seeing more of his but wanted to let you know about Montour Pilot. He does beyond amazing videos explaining plane crashes.
youtube.com/@MentourPilot?si=9eP76JvFSCAlIs95
The fact that the A320 didn't shatter into pieces, and even the engines remained attached and even marginally operational after the 200+ knots belly landing, is beyond imagination
It’s difficult to know where to begin with this tragedy, there are just so many errors made by the flight crew. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of such reckless incompetence before.
Unfortunately, this defines Pakistan overall. Sheer incompetence and reliance on the god rather than the skills or the aptitude.
Sad so many people lost their lives due to this fatal pilot error 😢
Understood the mistakes and ignorance by pilots caused many innoceny deaths but saying this single incident because of once incompetency defines over all Pakistan is not correct! if its like that than there are too many events that describes America, Europe and other world countries.. so making conclusions on one is just inappropriate..
@@syedfaraz9626 Sir, Pakistan’s every sector including health, education, judiciary, bureaucracy, aviation and state is corrupt and incompetent. Unlike, European and North American counterparts.The first step for correction is the realization that there is a problem.
Yes 💯
This IS Pakistan. A country being run by fools and thugs.
Perhaps the most shocking crash (that was an accident) in the 21st century. The amount of standard operating procedures and just common sense violated that lead this crash happening is unacceptable for a flag carrier like PIA. Not the mention that soon after the crash, it was revealed that a quarter of all PIA pilots had fake licenses. The people of Pakistan deserve better.
They're the ones with fake credentials. They are the people of Pakistan.
You reap what you sow. Pakistan is a mess. No surprise they be capable of this.
They don’t . This is the product of a completely dysfunctional culture.
No Pakistan doesn't deserve better. 99% of Pakistan is rotten to the core. There is corruption in every corner of the country. From judges to generals and bureaucrats to cops and fruit vendors to average Joes on the street are all out to cheat and deceive each other.
There were NO fake licenses--only a brain dead Aviation Minister--who himself had a fake degree. The crash was due to the effect of fasting and flying that I banned more than 30 years ago. Two idiot pilots do not represent the majority of PIA pilots, any more than the copilot who crashed the German Wings aircraft represented his airline pilots.
Most people do not know that this accident blew open a whole scandal in PIA. It was found out that most so called “professional pilots” in PIA were actually horribly under qualified. Some even became pilots due to “recommendation letters” written by local influential politicians and did not even have basic pilot school certificates !!!
Basically if you were a rich and influential kid, you could become a commercial pilot without even going to flight school 😮
That's a Muslim country for you. Nepotism and corruption.
They fly to Canada though
@@sujay162 Canada itself is quickly becoming a country of clowns. So it's not surprising.
In Pakistan aviation overall...from the country that helped Emirates get off the ground to this. (Emirates' first plane was a brand-new Pakistan Boeing 737-300.)
@@GuitarRyder11 you are triggering my non-inclusivity anxiety sir 😂
The amount of work you put into this is spectacular! You are on your way for big success on TH-cam. This video was so immersive, detailed and tragically avoidable. Thank you for another amazing video! 😊😊😊
Up there with the loss of the Ethiopian flight where the passengers decided to cook goat meat over an open fire pit in the back of the plane, this story is equally unbelievable; yet actually happened.
The pilots of this PIA flight said aloud, "We won't need landing gear where we're going!"
Varig 254
Do you have more information on that Ethiopian flight like a flight number? I’m unable to find anything to support that claim. The closest thing that comes to mind is Nationair 2120 which crashed due to a landing gear fire in Saudi Arabia.
On the air disasters episode, there were mentions of passengers traveling with fire pits, but it had nothing to do with the crash.
@@Clipper1094 the only time i can think of where passengers started cooking fires on board a plane was during the Vietnam war when the cia run 'Air America' was flying weapons, medical supplies etc, rescuing downed pilots & moving various tribal armies around Laos & Thailand.
Once, when one plane (I think a C-123) was helping evacuate tribesmen & their livestock and they started a cooking fire in the back cargo area (but it was a cargo plane, during war, with tribesmen from the deep jungle, some who had never seen a plane before.
Unfortunately the only source is an actual book called "Air America: The Story of the CIA's Secret Airlines" by Christopher Robbins
(It's a really good book too. I can't believe some of the crazy things those pilots did!)
Actually that sounds like Saudia 163...the plane where even though it landed, no one survived.
Lmao 😂
Worst pilots I've ever seen ever
Varig 254
@@spot997 At least, she know her capabilities unlike these 2 knobhead pilots
"Inshallah we will make it" - Well....
Sadly this is not the only Pakistani crash where Inshallah is heard in the CVR. Anyone has the right to believe whatever they want, but when they rely on their God (rather than their skills) to bring them down safely... this is exactly what happens.
Well that's what Allah wants...so...
😂😂😂😂😂
I think He lost patience with that crew.
@@Dilley_G45
God=Allah made the rules governing this universe, follow them and succeed, deviate from them and such incidents happen. But you have all the right to be stupid and say stupid things.
I was looking over YT for someone to make this video for so long
THNX for making a detailed analysis.. this was one of the worst crash in aviation history
Descending at over 7000 feet per minute. 😮
Poor eardrums of literally everyone...
I have been waiting for this documentary since the crash happened as I live in Pakistan.. thanks bro
To say that this crew buggered things up is pointless. Blaming them for getting so many things wrong will not prevent re-occurrence. This crash (it was not an accident) started years ago when this crew were recruited by PIA. Then their training and checking system, local cultural and religious norms, union interference, pathetic government oversight combined and gave us this outcome.
20:07 These two guys could not handle a camel. Airplane was way above their head.
There was me thinking that clowns only worked in the circus.
Thank you so much for covering this accident , since i first heard about it i just could not get my head around what happened
Same here! It took a while for the final report to be completed and released. Finally we can see what events led up to this incident. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
This made me more angry than any other accident report I ever read. That captain effectively killed those passengers and himself. I don't usually go in this hard on pilots, who are human beings after all, but the unforgivable behaviour of both captain and copilot for their actions and inaction respectively, boiled my blood. I take my job very seriously but when institutional corruption allows unsuitable people to hold licenses and ratings because of graft and greed, no amount of training will keep passengers and public safe from this kind of incompetence and stupidity.
It also demonstrates how archaic religious practices have no place in today's modern, industrialised society, where fast-paced, complex systems and machines operate 24/7 and don't give a crap about your religious rituals. Be fit to fly, or don't bother. Religion is no excuse for poor performance and taking unacceptable risks.
Sir can u list major mistakes made by the pilots? I watched this videos a week ago with headache so i couldn't consentrate properly
@@alanp805i made a list of mistakes of pilots and ATC communication while watching this video but now i can't remeber much😅
And i don't want to watch the video again😅 so if you remember please consider helping
Great video, beautifully crafted and competently narrated. Thank you.
Remarkable Quality............Thank you for your sincere efforts...!
I really appreciate that, thank you!
Great video, as always. Yes, it was very insightful, I'm glad to see new rules governing "fasting." As a frequent flyer, I will say I want a confident pilot...not an arrogant pilot. As a side note at 23:57...the coffee cup 😂
Wow. I’m a fan of all airline tragedy documentaries. (That did NOT come out right) but this one was especially informative. Thank you.
Doesn’t Islam excuse people from fasting if it may be dangerous? Does the U.S. FAA allow pilots to fly fasting? Freedom of religion cannot override safety.
I’ve worked aviation in the Middle East for close to 15 years, so I can tell you with 100% certainty that the laws of Islam absolutely allows you break your fast while traveling, and that certainly applies to flight & cabin crews. The Quran spells out that you can make up the fasting days at a later date, and the majority of Muslim flight crews do not fast on days with long flights. It’s Ramadan right now, and I see this scenario at work daily.
The more pressing issue is that the pilots likely falsified all or most of their flight hours on the types that they were flying. It's a Pakistani cultural problem that needs to be addressed. Most Arab carriers have the same fasting pilots but don't have this problem because they don't fake their flight hours.
I don’t think planes existed back when Islam was founded for them to think of this
It’s about the act of traveling, not any specific mode of travel, in relation to the physical demands of traveling in the ancient world, ie. walking, riding an animal, a sail or oar powered boat. Once you surpassed a certain distance (translations vary, but around 50-ish miles), you are exempt from fasting in order to keep your strength up for the duration of the journey.
If only if it is dangerous. Short haul pilots over in the region where I'm in, Maritime Southeast Asia (Malaysia, Indonesia, etc), Muslim pilots will fast. Even flights that are around 6 or 7 hours, they would fast.
The issue becomes if they don't have the strength to do it. For most healthy and fit people, this is not an issue because they can still operate things just fine, especially if they shift their diet slightly. The biggest thing is managing fluids since they can't consume anything until sunset, but again, not a big deal.
If one is actually competent at their jobs, then a slight loss of strength and focus due to hunger won't be such an issue.
I love this channel. The commentary, visualisations. Just great
Thank you so much, fantastic to hear it!
I second this!
This is why I don’t fly airlines from countries like Pakistan or Malaysia.
This one is incredibly shocking, no technical issues, pure negligence
This is very similar to the Yogyakarta Garuda 737 crash that killed 21 people in 2007. The aircraft was high and fast but the pilot ignored all the cockpit warnings and landed anyway resulting in a catastrophic overrun and fire.
Great presentation as always- why so many people have to die because of arrogance and negligence like this is mind boggling…
Such a compromising attitude, in an area where machines work to precise perfection!!
Do these pilots eat with right hand and wipe their arse with the left. Nasty culture
Your videos are awesome. When you feel like you are on the flight....you know it's a job well done. I'm glad I wasn't on the flight. The captain had multiple times for a Go Around. Instead he wanted to " look what we've done "
We are looking.. you killed 97 people including yourself.
Rest in Peace to All 🌷
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you should added that they intercepted a ghost glideslope of 6 degrees and that's why the captain was so proud of intercepting the ils but in fact they were way to high and not in the correct 3 degree glideslope
This is actually a very valid point, thank you.
Seriously foreign pilots are garbage. Your engine is dying but you want to continue back to 25l and shoot an instrument approach when you need to IMMEADIATELY DO A 180 AND LAND VISUAL ON RWY 7R EVEN WITH A TAILWIND. LIKE WHAT IN THE FAX
thank you for the work you have done ! this terrible event is sadly incredible 😱😥😥😥😥😥😥 and discovering that some pilots have fake pilot licenses 🤬😱😱😱😱 what a shame 😥😥😥😥
Pakistan, the only country in the world where pilots dont have licenses 😂
😂😂😂😂
Not all. Most of them have licenses so don’t assume all have no licenses you ideoit
Print one from ol' Print Shop program.
Do you have any proof?
Pakistan also brings so called truck drivers to north america to drive. Also many with invalid licenses. Seen many of them when i was trucking
Great content, thank you👍🏽
My former boss Zafar Masud was one of the two survivals in this accident. God continue to bless him.
Great video and explanation
Landing without Landing gear...RIDICULOUS.
Omg how could they forget the most important step of landong deoy the gears how stupid, so many people died needlessly over tbese 2 fools..how sad😢😢rip to all❤
One of the survivor of this crash is my wife's cousin. Only two people survived miraculously...
It pains me that they had so MANY times to correct their flight path, stabilise the descent and land safely.
Nepotism. Pilots get jobs in Pakistan because of who they know, not what they know or if they are the best person for the job. This can be deadly as shown here.
As a rookie trainee pilot many years ago, I have made my fair share of mistakes, but this defies belief.
Back in 1989 when i was 16 years old I still remember the awful flight I had from Manchester uk to Islamabad pakistan on pia airlines the plane pitched up way too high when it took off and the awful bank angle turns i would never fly with pia airlines again. Now I know that must of there pilots have fake licenses probably the same with these two idiots what were they thinking.
May be or may be not one of the contributing factors was Fasting, in general pilots shouldn’t fast and fly commercial flights, there are many fatwas (Islamic exemptions/explanations ) about not fasting while travelling or performing hard jobs that require great deal of mental and/or psychomotor skills, flying is one of them, the PCAA was quite correct to involve a definite ruling about this issue.
Yes Islam allows during flights not just for pilots also for passengers
Of all the aviation accident videos I've watched on TH-cam, this one tops the list for total incompetence and errors made by the pilots.
It boggles my mind absolute sheer stupidity. I cannot believe two people just decided to land at 240kts with no gears down or flaps. Like what was going on? Do they think they're driving a car?
The last time I heard of PIA was when there was a big fight on a Lahore London flight over seat pitch. 2 people (Pakistanis) who stated the fight were banned for life from PIA.
The fight was in 2019 and took place in coach class.
Was that P.I..A. or P.O.S. airline
You really have to try to mess up this badly.
Well that would have been a nightmare for passengers just because one has 0 awareness Rest In Peace😏🙂↕️
Brilliant Pakistani Pilots, landing without landing gear. WOW.
Thoroughly explaining
🎉🎉🎉 i really Love This Channel But im Just curious 🧐 How do all these pilots keep track of the hours they’ve put in???
Thank you 🙏
Blessings,Carlos ✝️🙏❤️😊🇺🇸
Thanks Carlos, I can’t talk for my civilian counterparts but logbooks are used, both in paper and electronic forms. This is summarised each month and checked and confirmed correct.
Even if doing so routinely throughout one's life, fasting should always be handled with care. All sorts of things can make a person more susceptible to blood sugar changes at any time, even if there has never been a problem before. It's just strange that both pilots would be affected at the same time.
There you are. Fasting has nothing to do with it especially when its a routine. It was just that ugly old man who started handling it wrong.
They had chance to try water landing.. They might have all survived if they have ditched
I was thinking the same thing that the water landing would have been a better option.. (cause these pilot don't use gears and landing in water may not even requires gear)
Also I don't believe that only 1 person dies on land cause of the crash.. I believe the Govt. hid the true death poll cause of backlash
That is the most avoidable crash and it makes me angry to know everything that lead to the crash was a deliberate choice of the aircrew to disregard safety
Once a legendary and Asia’s best golden standard airline, now PIA has become the worst airline to even exist, this is what happens to a good business when you hire your relatives instead of qualified pilots
This crew flew this plane as if they were playing a video game with complete disregard for not only for their own lives but that of the innocent passengers . So shameful
Were the flight crew fasting? If so, hypoglycemia can result in confusion and difficulty in concentration. Dehydration can make things worse.
What's the time duration after it becomes effective? 5 hrs? 8hrs?
It was not the fasting but total stupidity and lack of concentration .
PIA has now banned pilots to fast during the month of Ramadan
I thought Ramadan fasting doesn't apply if you need to travel anyway?
Who has the highest authority? PIA or Allah?
@@wollaminfaetter I heard it from my muslim friend that if you have something of high priority and that require good mental and physical health you can be exempted from fasting..
but life of 100 people is not the reason to leave your fast.. Allah won't forgive you.. People who believe in Allah kills 1000 people in his name and honor.. how dare you degrade allah's name by breaking your fast for mere 100 people.. Blasphemy 🙃🙃
PIA need to take this stuff seriously and reorganise the whole flight company
Regulations are simply words on paper. The Captain was a fool who ignored ATC directives to Orbit. Not even the 1st Officer could get the idiot in the left seat to do the right thing. The Captain knew this was a missed-approach and they needed to go around but he had something to prove. There is no learning from your mistakes when you die.
During the entire 'landing' attempt I was screaming "Go around, god fking damn". I can't believe how irresponsible these pilots acted with both the aircraft itself and all the human lifes on board.
Very interesting although super stressing to hear the captain take such bad decisions. Only criticism would be that the video feels a bit too long and I think some parts could have been cut. Not that big of an issue as I just skipped forward but it’s important to keep viewers attention all the way through. Looking forward to the next one. 👍
I agree with your criticism
It's about arrogance and too much confidence in ability and reckless management
It can't be a fasting issue that's ridiculous the human body can function perfectly well after many hours even days without food
That varies a great deal from person to person. Even non diabetics can border on hypoglycaemia. the ability to convert soft body fats into sugars also varies. The body adjusts to it's normal environment, so people living in arctic condition tend to have both better and faster ability to maintain constant blood sugar levels.
The human brain may not be entirely switched on, however.
Definition of too many captains not enough pilots.
Unbelievable! A senior pilot with over 17K hours! How could this happen? Was there toxicology reports on the crew’s condition? The only explanation I can think of for this extent of foul up is chemical impairment of both pilots, as if some kind of gas was seeping into the cockpit that impaired their perceptions and judgment.
Legalistic licensing language contributed to this fatal accident. Horrible.
Maybe they had slow decompression and hyp0xia or anoxia. Their thinking seemed to be less than normal. Forgot the gear, ignored warñing horn, had too much, then too little speed. Ignored overspeed warning.. how could they make all those errors? If not impaired? Hypoglycemic? CRM seemed ok. What a shame. TOGA would have helped the first time before touching down.
What in the world were these pilots doing man. Absolutely unprofessional. Utterly disgusting.
I'll bet I could do a better job flying the A320...and I only have a single engine private license.
Very good ambassadors to their country. PIA? No thanks.
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PIA has licences to do this stuff in Europe and the USA
Because of the issue surrounding pilot licences in 2020, PIA (along with other Pakistani airlines) were banned from the EU, UK and US. I believe this still is the case, although there have been talks of restarting flights as they have passed safety audits by EASA.
@@CuriousPilot90 They fly to the UK, France, Denmark and Canada, no flights to the US.
@@wobblybobenglandPIA are currently banned from flying in Europe
Great video.
Not so great flying skills.
Jesus Christ this was a train wreck
Pilots should NEVER be subject to strict adherence to religious practices when people's lives are at stake. Clearly they were grossly impaired and had no business even driving a car or riding a bike, let alone piloting a commercial aircraft. If they want to fast, that's their business, but bring in foreign pilots to carry the work load until the fasting is done. Duh!
As per a reply to another comment about this - there are leeways in Islam to allow travellers not to fast, amongst other things. There's not really an excuse for their complete lack of airmanship, it's jawdropping.
Some pilots do the 5/2 fasting diet
How about this. Nobody should ever be under any pressure to do anything religious, ever.
saw another channel did an in-depth review of the final report and neither pilot should had been hired or flying but the captain especially. was honestly surprised that the report was very honest and blunt. the captain initially wasn't psychologically approved to be hired but then he went to his buddies in the air force and from there got sent to another psychologist who passed him. i also believed he was labelled as an overbearing man of lower intelligence so basically a bully who thought he knew better.
Who did this please ?
Just a small pet peeve. No one cares about UTC time. It leads to more unnecessary mental work. We only care about the time at the location.
Otherwise, great job.
Correction, *you don't care about UTC.
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Do you go by UTC time or local time?
@cchris874 Local time. Otherwise, I'd be an hour late for everything. However, this doesn't mean that I do not recognise the usefulness of using UTC to coordinate events in time across the globe, which means that we still have a sample size of... one for your statement of "no one cares."
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Yes, you are right. Useful in some cases. But practically speaking, do most viewers here get anything out of UTC? Also, there is no universal adherence to this. For example, TWA flight 800, according to the NTSB, crashed at 20:31 EDT. There is no mention of UTC anywhere in that report. And it would just add confusion to use UTC, because then you would also have to change the date from July 17 to July 18. So I am just speaking in terms of the average viewer. It helps me to be oriented to be reminded throughout that this is 2 in the afternoon. Always saying 8 in the morning keeps adding disorientation to the story. Just as if you kept presenting a map upside down. I may not be speaking for others, but my best guess is that I am.
cheers
local ofc more important when we talk about location
" There's a bad scent in this cockpit. "
" Ignore it. It's just me -fasting- farting! "
I will NEVER fly that airline in any circumstances. Yet another example of ridicules religious requirements, impacting on one's employment.
Unless you were planning to visit Pakistan you probably weren’t ever going to fly this airline
@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 To be honest, it's not on my places to visit list!
By far the worst airline on Earth.
There's tens of thousands of people from Pakistan living in Greece.
Thanks Allah they don't fly kites or I would be very alarmed 😢
The thing I don't quite understand is people still believing in Supreme Power when there's plain evidence of its non-existence. Maybe God is extinct, so it's for the better taking the steps needed to regain control, and not to loose effort.
He neither will be surprised, nor expecting for this loss; he's just not there. Routines are not to be taken lightly, except for the religious type.