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This is a revised video of the one I uploaded yesterday as I forgot to say my thoughts on the sound and answer a few other issues that came up in the original comments....
Whats the tune mate? (And artist)
Streaky Thanks for the revised. It did end sort of frequent and incomplete. Wanted your thoughts. Watching now!!!! 😊
Awesome man! Thank you so much for fixing the video. The Fusion gave this great song so much life and air.
super - thanx a lot
Thanks :)
Tons of useful information. Thank you for your straight forward review and the very useful comments on the different sections of the Fusion. No fancy video effects and cuts - just plain efficiency from an accomplished mastering engineer.
Beautiful loop you used for the demo too!! Thanks
Thanks for the demo. Seems like it would be really good for radio stuff where you want some presence and density.
I set mine up last night and I love it! First big hardware that I’ve ever had
loved this review!
Excellent review. New subscriber. Showing the proper use of gain staging through the unit was very helpful.
Love the channel! Thanks for taking the time to do this stuff. Please review the ATS-1 Analog Tape Simulator!
That’s the best test of this device online! Cheers!👍🏽
Sounds very good...could definitely use this for tracking sources too and even though I am not a mastering engineer (but I do have to make my own home masters of unreleased tracks to play out), this will come in handy with some software to give this "expensive sheen" (for lack of a better word) to my own masters, until they get sent to a proper mastering studio.
Thank you for your honest opinion when you compare the Fusion to the Silver Bullet.
Thx Needed this!
good video!! and the track used too!!!!!
Hi Streaky thanks for the video. What is your wow eq for the highs
Would you prefer this over Neve 5059 or a Neve Portico? Im at a crossroads between the 3. Im building my hybrid studio
nice demo! sounds like a superb precision unit :)
that liquid track is proper nice
This is not a tool for mastering but for the mix bus…..i do have one and it does magic on a mix…. really brings it to the next level….no plugin can do what the SSL fusion does
Same. For mastering, the RND MBP is better than this unit. I mostly mix, but went for the Fusion instead of the MBP (which is what I would get if I were primarily mastering).
Agreed, it's a mix tool for sure, but a great one! I love mine, used a tiny bit or a lot it ends up on nearly every mix I do now. Have an MBP as well but I see that as a very different tool (despite some crossover). The one down side of the Fusion is that the saturation circuit is quite noisy. Small price to pay for such a "live" sound I guess.
How about the Louder than Liftoff Silver Bullet for mastering?
@@unionstudios4415 How do you like the mbp on a mix? I know it can master but do you use it in the mix also?
Union Studios noisey in a bad way ?
Are the audio test section of this rerecorded as well? I am asking because I noticed a lot more difference this time around. That said, when I listened to the original upload I did listen to it thru Beyerdynamic dt770..while now on this video I am listening thru my Amphion one18. I am personally way more positive about this box after this listen. Btw..I have a question as well for you for your Q&A videos or even a dedicated video about it :) I am wondering about those power outlet 19" rack things where you can plug in multiple gear into it (power). An example of one of those boxes (if you are not sure what I am talking about would be: Adam Hall PCL 10 Pro) Would you mind talking a bit about those? What is their actual purpose? Do I need one? Why do I need one? I don't have any outboard gear except the Amphion Amp and UA Apollo Twin. Is it worth getting one to plug my Amp, audio interface and Mac into? This box has been a mystery to me for far too long, hope you can shed some light on it for me :)
Nice and honest review Streaky. I would love to see a test of Warm Audio Bus Comp. For the simple reason it is much more affordable and would like the opinion of an expert as to how far it can bring you in a mastering scenario
Can you review the Acustica Celestial plugin soon?
Can you do a review like this on the avalon 747?
Whats your choice for hard techno , this or the Louder than liftoff silver bullet ?
It’s louder when engaged!!
sure its different, it's piece of cake rich sound
I’d love to hear a comparison either with audio or just first hand experience with the RND Portico II MBP. I’m looking to add a little analog color to my masters and both devices have similar, compression, eq, MS and saturation features especially in a hard-rock context.
3 x the price gotta be at least twice as good!
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Really don't understand why you didn't turn the output trim down a DB to compensate for the dbs added by the vintage drive
That transistor button sounds amazing. Damn now I'm saying it
To be honest, I don't see much difference. It's phenomenal how the world is changing. Now I can get the same sound using the stock equalizer or plug-in. By the way, the compressor of this thing is really good
I actually like this EQ, but only its low frequency.
i can clearly hear how you narrowed the lows with this unit
Acustica Audio : Celestial free as Christmas gift is this Unit !!!
Yeah I saw that too - it's pretty decent. But no transformer! :-)
Hey Streaky, when u say the drive feature is hissy, is it unusably hissy for mix buss duties?
Please please please what’s the title of
the song? I’m absolutely in love with it.
Heard on phone hold lines & in larger department store elevators everywhere...
Why adjust the input trim when the next stage in the signal is saturation? Wouldn't that effect the level you are driving into saturation? Output trim seems like a better option for adjusting levels for AB. Or am I wrong?
That's what I was thinking too.
Have you tried the Acustica Audio Celestial? It’s a plug-in based on the fusion. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the real deal :)
Try the Fusion from your studio with your music - we can connect you to a robotically controlled SSL Fusion in the cloud via our Analog Matrix plugin www.accessanalog.com - then you can compare for yourself
@@accessanalog2534 thanks I did exactly that last night. Bought the SSL Fusion the next day. Was great to be able to try it out remotely from home!
@@simonschole Excellent! Happy we could help!
Allright! This is like my TC Finalizer 😂
Do you get a lot of use from the Finalizer? I remember when they came out
Stepped knobs are equally useful for mixing engineers. I actually can’t think of any reason they would be less needed for mixing, I can only think of more reasons. With that out of the way, otherwise looks killer, great review Streaky!
true just a cost thing for SSL I guess...thanks :)
Less needed in the since that they raise the price of the box considerably and if you are just mixing based on feel, your moves are likely larger and faster than for mastering and steps slow you down. Some people love them but it's not a huge loss to be without.
Alex Breyer No disagreements on any of that. I wasn’t specific, but I was thinking about recalls when I posted that.
I bought the SSL Fusion off of this review , thank you 🙌🏼
How are you finding it dude?
I love it, has a great sound drive saturation and eq filter are my go to .. I picked up bettermaker mastering limiter and eq all together great chain
@@DavidAnthonymix thanks for getting back to me about it dude :) the better maker limiter looks amazing, I’d love to use it but I don’t master. It looks beautiful though. I ended up buying a silver bullet and a mixbus tape emulation called Zulu from Handsome Audio. I’m in London so I gotta wait a few weeks for all of this shit to arrive
@@pearsemacintyre1728 What's your take on the Zulu if you have it yet ^^
@@akoustixx I recieved the Zulu a few weeks back, but waiting for the Silver Bullet to arrive to rig it all up. Should be in a week or so, i'll let you know dude
Thanks for doing this review. Defo opened my eyes. Not as great as I was hoping. Hopefully their next box will shake the world. 500 series still holding my attention for now. Cheers, Streaky.
All 500 series suck!
@@derekirons2615 everything sucks to someone. Thanks for your positive input on this matter. Remember to keep being a miserable commentator. The world really needs you 😉👍
Jay Tee-Bee sorry if I hurt your feelings on 500 series because you unfortunately can’t afford 19” rack hardware. Hopefully you will soon. I’m entitled to my opinion. I have A/B 500 series three top legendary names and they sound a tad better then plugins but do NOT equal 19” rack hardware, but go for it record with 500 series all you want.
Lol, don't worry you haven't hurt my feelings and money is not my concern. I was actually recommended to get into 500 series stuff by an engineer friend who mixes for large clients and finds the space and ability to transport his gear to other studios more useful than any perceived loss in quality. Is the circuitry very different between 19" and 500 series modules, in your opinion?
Jay Tee-Bee Jay Tee-Bee it comes down to the power supply size most of all.
The 19” rack can of course hold a bigger power supply. Until companies make lunch box’s with an equal or greater power supply 500 series will never equal 19” rack.
Now SSL XRACK is great because it’s bigger then 500 series n worth investing in if you like SSL.
As far as your friend likes to travel with 500 series for convenience n doesn’t care if he loses ten or fifteen percent of real mojo tells me he’s more into what works for him - NOT caring about making the best pro sounding record for people paying him good money.
I met a few losers who take advantage of people hiring them online n telling them he’s mixing on a ssl or neve console when he’s not to bs the client which I find shameful n disgusting. Good luck with whatever you decide.
A transistor button? Im pretty sure its a transformer button and inserts an output transformer.
Yes, also the symbol is pretty much that. I think he got confused
This product is way better than he advertised and he never mentioned the secret lmc compressor lol
I wasn’t allowed too at the time 🤦🏻♂️
Damn it’s day and night, what a difference for 2000€! 😳
😂😂
Waiting on my Fusion delivery...
Only here for the delicious future jazz track...
So Streaky, What's the verdict? Silver Bullet or Fusion? Would love to hear your honest opinion on which one would you go with? I value your opinion.
Any news about this question Streaky?
Joey Fernandez Fusion hands down. Silver bullet has a little unwanted harshness imo.
I'm ordering a Fusion but I'll never not mix without my Bullet. Love it.
100% fusion
@@daviddonaldson4808 Can you tell me a little about your experiences with both? How they compare, what are the strengths of each and which one do you like best?
awesome 🎉
How do you feel this compares to the Rupert Neve Portico II MBP?
I think this is more of a colour box, the mbp is more of a
Mastering tool
@@gregbradshaw7220 Thank you.I was curious because Sweetwater has them in the same category.
@@NURREDIN It's a valid question though NURREDIN. The MBP has the silk circuits which are similar in principle to the saturation on the Fusion. But the MBP is deff more of a mastering unit. There's only one solution. Get both! :)
What's the brand and model of those beautiful speakers in the back?
I guess focal sopra.
I work in live sound very much thinking about getting two of these, any one else tried that?
had a question, for EDM music would I be better going for the Manley Nu Mu or the Solid State Fusion???????
I just bought the fusion and I do EDM I'll let you know how it turns out brotha!
@@Nospoon777 how is it? What daw do you use?
@@vxd By all means I am a Super Novice! But it is sick dude!! The best way I can describe it is basically coloring your tracks from Camaros to Super cars! Subtle, Rich tonal changes! I'm using Ableton 11
@@Nospoon777 nice, yeah I use AL11 too.. quick newbe question, as ive never used outboard gear... how do you use this for mixing, can you send all your tracks to it, or do you have to apply the effects, one track at a time and then freeze the track to apply to the next track?
@@vxd Sorry for late response! I print all the tracks to a single track with it after song is complete. It is the very last step in creating a song! I hear you can do track by track as well but doing it that way you may need to adjust the timing a but from what I hear.
I dont understand why you dropped the input gain. Surely you need to drop the output gain to compensate for the 3 db increase?
That was a long time ago maybe I was going in too hot??!
Seems your bypass was higher in db than the trimmed Fusion.
Ssl six desktop we’ll see more
Can you achieve this with other Hardware/plugins?
Yes all of this plugins can do
Acustica Celestial is unofficially an SSL Fusion. Also, Access Analog has a Fusion.
I wonder why you compensated via the input trim and not the output trim...changing input level affects the way the unit reacts, especially the transformer section. Thanks anyway!
It's because this unit is designed for mixing, not mastering. It tells you on the manual that if you're feeding "hot mixes" that you should back off on the input. I have one and it's much more suitable for mixing, not mastering. LOL at "Thanks anyway!" as if he's doing it wrong (he's not, you just don't understand what gain staging analog circuits means).
LAWL FORREAL your input is not appreciated, way too hot. Thanks anyway!
What's the name of that track?
yo, no screaming bro hahah
Hmmm the Transformer drive "emulates" (through it's use of actual custom transformers) the old consoles (even though SSL consoles never used them, that's kind of the point) sounds a bit "transistory" LOL - Technical Gaff's of that magnitude make this pretty hard to take seriously tbh..
lol...you don't really sound impressed with this box but you're trying your best to like it.
Did you try the bettermaker stuff already?
Max Fritz no but need to
That thin, monotonous sounding piano, really kills that track.
pfoei what a SEXY box.
Whats the track name :)
It's possible that the Fusion isn't particularly suited to this genre of music. This is just my experience hearing it in various demo videos but every time someone throws a rock mix through it I love it, most another genres - meh.
I feel very much the same way. Probably Rock & Beats work best
Tengo la impresión de que no pesa, es poco pesado, si algo no pesa no es bueno ja ja ja ja😊
I feel like you failed at your goal of matched level bypassed and in. And also it was hard to tell what was “in” or bypassed. You never said. Enjoyed the review but please let us know! And also would have liked to hear the extreme settings of each section.
When the button he's pushing lights up it's bypassed,
There’s some hidden features apparently
Would have been better to sweep and make more movements when demoing. Just turning it off and on isn't very helpful.
The drive is noisy I’m going to sell mine and get the cream
Sounds better without
Why are you shouting? I think this is massively overpriced. An honest review
If anyone wants to know when he finally shuts up and uses the unit - 15 mins in!!!
It seemed make it sound more controlled / dull - I think I preferred it without. Most of the difference I noticed was in the high end. I really I don't think the unit made that much difference to the sound at all. Nothing that couldn't be accomplished by any simple EQ.
The unit seems bypassed all the time….
great looking vid but the audio is grating, sounds like your shouting through a traffic cone under a blanket, lose the hi pass
Haha cheers 😭
It's made in China...
a lot of $ for a harmonic distortion, enhancer, eq and spatializer....although we do have 3 six mixers....please give me a fusion
15:15 Skip all the talking. You're welcome.
IT'S THE START OF THE ENDING FOR SSL WITH THERE FUSION CHINESE CRAP JUST LIKE FOCUSRITE IN 99 KEEP IT BRITISH.
That's the one thing holding me back. Like $2500 for something made in China. I can't bring myself to do it. I feel like SSL is taking the piss and laughing at me.
Fourteen minutes and thirty eight seconds before you EVER get to HEAR the dam thing ! Streaky must seriously like the sound of his own voice :-) Personally, I could care less what someone thinks about a product, I would rather have a professional give me sound examples and let my ears judge for themselves but hey, who the hell am I to question the streakster ?
sevinsound I don’t think you know the difference between a review and a demo.
Ps. This is a REVIEW it’s in the title.
Try the Fusion from your studio with your music - we can connect you to a robotically controlled SSL Fusion in the cloud via our Analog Matrix plugin www.accessanalog.com
As a result of this review I would never buy this product ......hmm🤔 unless your review isn’t ...............
LazarusMusiq I did n LOVE IT. Nothing like adding real mojo.
Do yourself a favour and skip to 15:25. Nice demo but fuck me mate 15 minutes of waffle is overkill. Also as a mastering engineer I’m still not sure why you would back the signal off using the input trim instead of the output trim. Because the processing comes after the inputs that would have made a lot more sense. I’m still on the fence about this, I could go with a Focusrite Mixmaster for £1400 less and to my ears it still does a (similarly) great job, even after all these years
SSL FUSION - MADE IN CHINA
Try the Fusion from your studio with your music - we can connect you to a robotically controlled SSL Fusion in the cloud via our Analog Matrix plugin www.accessanalog.com - see if you can hear the quality of the manufacturing
EVERYTHING is made in china. Doesn't mean its all bad! lol
Not impressed
The original sound is better than result of fusion. This is just an overpriced shit.
where is the r power button?? i just hooked it up but no idea how to turn it on