Finally a manufacturer who does a proper demo video with hi quality audio files and an explanation of the features. And it sounds pretty good too! Nice one SSL.
I bought SSL Fusion. The moment I tried it, I was surprised at the quality of the sound. The quality of the sound is really great! I'm really glad I bought it. If I didn't watch this video, I wouldn't have bought it. From now on, I will release a lot of songs using Fusion. Thank you SSL for the wonderful equipment !!! from Japan
Amazing how smooth this thing is! I didn't really like the transformer on the drums because it made the snare lose some body but that's just personal preference.
@@aaronmughal1493 The Six is a summing mixer, while this is a mix bus coloration device. I would use the Fusion as an insert on the Six, but also use the Six mix bus as an insert on the Fusion.
@@matthewJ142 So if you 'consolidate' each stereo stem separately within a mix (for example drums, vocals, horns, guitars etc...) running them through this unit... and then do a final mix, would you then consolidate/master the full final mix again? I might try that out! Thanks
@@ChrisDeJuanMusic don't forget that always that you do a digital to analog and analog to digilt conversion you ALWAYS lose quality... even with the best converters, conversion degrades sound
I cant see where are the high resolution audio files. I go to the link in description but I dont see nothing. Please help me, i need this files to compare!
Question: does the X OVER switch only affect the dialed frequency (more like a bell) or does ist affect like a shelf (for example 3khz and above instead of just 8khz?) thanks.
Do you have these symptoms? I seem to have problem with SSL FUSION. When I remove the pen DRIVE counterclockwise, I have small noise, and in the right channel it more than on the left! This is clearly seen if put an L2 limiter on the DAW master section, and turn the limiter all the way. I urgently need to find out because my SSL FUSION is still under warranty!
You all should go check out Mitch's review @ Sweetwater. He put some amazing final touches on a mix and really showed the effectiveness of the Hi-Pass Filter and EQ! These were good examples but Mitch really tapped into some good high frequency stuff that just blew my mind!
I would love to hear it actually gain-matched. The processed sound is still louder than the bypassed signal both times he dials it back. I think it’s a very interesting box and certainly sounds good, but it’s hard to compare. If the processed level was a tiny bit quieter than the unprocessed I’m not sure I would prefer it engaged. In a game of millimeters, a few millimeters changes the score.
Yes, this is something that made me wonder, too. If you make such a nice piece of hardware (which it definitely is), why are you cheating still, even if you HAVE an built-in level compensation?!
I would, this is just for spiceing things up , then you go to the mastering multiband eq and compression and the final on or even two limiters for additional little thighteness. And if you hear those high harsh sounds coming up because of all the limiting and eq-ing, you can for the grande finale use SSL fusion again - just the hf compressor module to polish the highs to perfection.:) I would use it like that.
I prefer the API sound to SSL and Neve. Neve is too harsh sometimes, and SSL isn't quite as musical-sounding as API. Neve can sound very musical, but it's not as all-round useful as API. They're all great, though.
@@antiHUMANDesigns i only own SSL (Super analogue S9000 pre channel strip) & time ago i owned a double Neve AMS EQ (as you said very musical and rounded sound) SSL i find it more aggressive at least the EQ wish is E/black switchable curves response both are aggressive type of sound ¿IMHO?, i wish to be lucky enough get an API as well :-) this are all superb, Rupert Neve judging from samples sound top notch too. This new affordable SSL series are great for the price, i think
*Level matched* comparisons please. Especially as it's possible to do so via the output trim. Otherwise even +0.2dB when in circuit sounds "better" than bypass.
You can do that easily yourself, just download the files put them in your DAW and guess what?! YOU CAN EVEN MAKE A NULL TEST IN THERE *O* My god, people these days are like infants, they can't help themselves so they scream for attention with the few words they have learned xD
@@TWEAKER01 I have been using pans and other kitchen equipment, connected to my big Neve mixer beating the shit out of snobs and pretentious kiddos. I also used tape once but it was disappointing...have you ever been in the situation where you had to explain to a studio owner, why you just tried to choke him to death with tape? Yeah me neither, since I am a concealed carry kicking ass since decades and bitching about my foot getting dirty with shit. So by which scale do you level match? I am positive it would be safest to use a SPL Meter and measure the speaker output directly, imagine some room mode giving you the impression the file with the boosted bass sounded better. Even better: measure Speaker THD because it can make the audio sound very different from what is actually there, when level rises and the nonlinearities begin to rise exponentially proportional.
Excellent! Can we have the SSL Fusion as a VST plugin? Can you SSL-guys work together with Brainworx to develop this for in-the-box use? Would be great!
I'm no audio engineer and probably much of what you choose to do with this device depends on music genre, but I think that in the last example of vocals the spacing make them sound very artificial, unnatural. I would love to have some feedback from experts. I really like the results in the former two examples.
Great sounding box, but the only thing that made this audio tour a tad bad was that the "space" knob was turned up waaay too high! As I understand it, that knob suppose to widen or narrow the lower freq stuff? You would want the low end to be focused and punchy, not wide and sloppy as shown in the video. Most evident on the drum track!
Finalizers converters are not actually that bad. I have one connected to the prism digital outs, using the d/a to send to hardware, back into the prism analogs for the a/d. Looking to get one of these to add in that chain. Did you ever manage to trade? hahah
Reading the comments, it seems my question has been answered. That question being, who’d spend $2,500 on something like this? I’ll admit, that EQ sounds pretty good. But, not better than about 10 different plugins I can name. Compressing the high-end? Ok... Also, probably 10 plugins that will do at least as well. I guess my point, is when people think about their 2-bus, and SSL in the same thought, the legendary bus compressor is what they’re thinking. If a $1,500 mixer (SSL 6) can have one in it, why can’t this? And.. I guess to further that thought, any unit designed for for a 2-bus without a full-band compressor in it is useless for me. Am I missing something? Is there a compressor in there I don’t see? I get trying to come up with stuff that is the opposite of what your brand is known for, but SSL is a beloved name for a reason. I don’t understand leaving out the one thing that is most synonymous with the brand.
You're right. It's better to put a top end hardware compressor (like for example Neve Portico II etc.) on a mix to spice (warm, glue, wide, depth) things up before final mastering (if there something left to fix) with plugins.
very cool....I just hate reverb I can hear, so distracting to me anyway....so I don't actually understand what this high end unit can do based on this really reverb wet walk through. sorry to be a scrooge...buying a SiX within the month!
MMMMMM..... FOR THE PRICE, I STAY WITH THE 2BUS + DANGEROUS ... OR ANY OTHER OPTION ... IN MY OPINION THE NEW PRODUCTS OF SSL SOUND VERY POOR AND IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE MADE WITH GOOD CHEAP MATERIALS ... ONE LAST, I PREFER TO SPEND MY MONEY IN API, NEVE, ETC
@@ovonisamja8024 yeah, obviously. Recently I tested a limiter and somehow it made everything sound really bad even though it was loud. What's even more suspicious, that it sounded just as bad after I level matched it. Then decided to not use it at all, simply clipped the converters until I had the nice squarewave I was looking for. Not so easy, all the distortion created a lot of aliasing, so I decided to get a DSD converter, because they don't have ninquyist frequency issues. Is this the level of stupidity you expect of me? How about you actually research what happens at higher levels according to Fletcher Munson. Then you should research how input level and DA-Converter performance correlate. Then how THD in speakers is rising with higher levels and how the different order harmonics create different impressions in speaker sound (warm, clear, screeching, sparkling, detailed, etc.) Then come back an tell me about those AB comparisons and louder is better "tricks". Have you used a Volume knob yet? Guess what, those barfing ports, breaking windows and police officers banging on the door are just an illusion, a trick. Lol.
@@karatekraken Dude, you don't have to explain yourself to me. Sorry if you're offended by my comment but all I said was they should have at least level matched the examples. That's all. Stop defending them.
@@ovonisamja8024 I am sorry my explanation wasn't clear enough, I wasn't offended by your comment but by that nonsensical nitpicky attitude. The difference the processors in this unit make, are way bigger then the perceived "improvement" caused by the increased loudness. It makes no sense to call "louder is better trick" in this situation. It is like worrying about the breaking glass in a car crash, even though it is safety glass which breaks only at speeds where the sheer force of the collision will cause your organs to be ruptured by the seatbelt. It does matter, yes but not enough to be concerned about yet.
Nothing a plugin couldn't do, AND I BET YOU, you couldn't tell which one is which in a side by side comparison . its like trying to tell plugin reverb from real reverb on a mix. Save your money and spend on a Summing mixer.
Finally a manufacturer who does a proper demo video with hi quality audio files and an explanation of the features. And it sounds pretty good too! Nice one SSL.
This song is amazing, this mix is amazing, this piece of gear is amazing.
this com is amazing
I bought SSL Fusion.
The moment I tried it, I was surprised at the quality of the sound.
The quality of the sound is really great!
I'm really glad I bought it.
If I didn't watch this video, I wouldn't have bought it.
From now on, I will release a lot of songs using Fusion.
Thank you SSL for the wonderful equipment !!!
from Japan
It's a "make everything better" box.
Beautiful audio examples. Which highlighted the effectiveness of the box.
The sound of that tranformer is something else! Sounds great
A very clear review, and truly amazing gear!!
Great piece of equipment, great song, great mix. This is how's done.
The best way to describe this box is:
Opening your airways again after a 2 week long flu.
Gonna defo buy one of these! Very unique peace of hardware.
They tried this on some coronavirus patients in Italy, not only did they make a faster recovery, but they sounded better too.
Great presentation of a even more great product. You convinced me that I want to buy one.
That was a great mix to start with but this machine def. could take it to another level. Would love to own one, one day maybe, it sounds great!
Love the head nodding. This is what music is about.
This is awesome....I Love the sound
It's awesome ... it would be even more awesome if it had an Automatic recall like the Tegelar units.
wish all review were like this!!great
Woww im shocked, this is absolutely insane !
This thing sounds excellent.
Got one coming next week. 🔥🔥🔥
Excellent video
Bang on SSL!!!!
Sounds super clean
1:43 that snare. 🔥
Awesome. Need to get this.
I have a Fusion and would like to have a video where M/S Processing with Fusion is more explained. Great Video by the way! Thank you!
This is the best i love this 😍
OMG...it´s an amazing gear!!!!
Sounds great
love this
Amazing how smooth this thing is! I didn't really like the transformer on the drums because it made the snare lose some body but that's just personal preference.
I will own this
Me too
I’ve just put my order in tonight! This and a UA X4 😁
Tttt
Sweet
love it
Awesome!
I’m buying this in about 3 months. The count down starts 😬😬😬😬
How’s it working for you ??
@@aaronmughal1493 The Six is a summing mixer, while this is a mix bus coloration device. I would use the Fusion as an insert on the Six, but also use the Six mix bus as an insert on the Fusion.
Emanuel Walker I did 🤓🤓. It’s awesome.
This wanna get me out of the box. Must definitely own this for buss mix
Definitely great for mastering. Which most mix engineers wouldn't need except for consolidating each stem of the overall mix.
@@matthewJ142 So if you 'consolidate' each stereo stem separately within a mix (for example drums, vocals, horns, guitars etc...) running them through this unit... and then do a final mix, would you then consolidate/master the full final mix again? I might try that out! Thanks
@@ChrisDeJuanMusic don't forget that always that you do a digital to analog and analog to digilt conversion you ALWAYS lose quality... even with the best converters, conversion degrades sound
@@mrcgeraldes That's true and something to consider for sure!
Awesome even with youtube compressed audio. I imagine that with my monitors! Bravo SSL!
lol its translates even on iPhone and my iMac
#VERYNice! 🎧 🎶 💯
Hymn
Nice
Woah!
That really does what it says LOL.
It sounds like you did a different mix :).
I am buying one LOL.
I love that high frequency compressor too...
Very impressd! What monitors or speakers are you using?
I would've liked to hear different frequency settings on the violet EQ.
I wil get it one day
Where can I get a cracked version of this? :D
Just get the demo version, and set your clock on your computer back to the 1st of Jan 1970, the demo will never run out.
there's an emulation by Acustica Audio. it was free for a while; maybe still is. www.acustica-audio.com/pages/specials/celestial
You just need a ski mask
I cant see where are the high resolution audio files. I go to the link in description but I dont see nothing. Please help me, i need this files to compare!
Question: does the X OVER switch only affect the dialed frequency (more like a bell) or does ist affect like a shelf (for example 3khz and above instead of just 8khz?) thanks.
Shelf
Your mix sounds great even before the Fusion. What hardware gear do you have in your chain before the Fusion?
Wondering if the high res examples are still available? Don't seem to be on the SSL site.
is possible to use Fusion on a mono signal like a single voice? Or like a preamp? Thanks.
Yes, just run the mono signal through either the left or right side!
Do you have these symptoms? I seem to have
problem with SSL FUSION. When I remove the pen
DRIVE counterclockwise, I have
small noise, and in the right channel it
more than on the left! This is clearly seen if
put an L2 limiter on the DAW master section, and
turn the limiter all the way.
I urgently need to find out because my SSL
FUSION is still under warranty!
You all should go check out Mitch's review @ Sweetwater. He put some amazing final touches on a mix and really showed the effectiveness of the Hi-Pass Filter and EQ! These were good examples but Mitch really tapped into some good high frequency stuff that just blew my mind!
I would love to hear it actually gain-matched. The processed sound is still louder than the bypassed signal both times he dials it back. I think it’s a very interesting box and certainly sounds good, but it’s hard to compare. If the processed level was a tiny bit quieter than the unprocessed I’m not sure I would prefer it engaged. In a game of millimeters, a few millimeters changes the score.
Yes, this is something that made me wonder, too. If you make such a nice piece of hardware (which it definitely is), why are you cheating still, even if you HAVE an built-in level compensation?!
Honest to goodness question: What can this do that SSL C-Channel, S1 Imager, LL+ Multiband Comp, and SSL EQ cannot do?
they can't fry eggs unfortunately.
need two
Wonder if they'll put it in X-Rack format
First, i want 8 of these babies! Second, when does the plug-in emulation hit the market! :)
Celestial by Acustica Audio
@@fernandoherrerabastidas WOW!!! Thanks!! 💯👍🏽 As, and shall be given...! Purchasing.. It does exactly what the Fusio is doing!!
There are numerous SSL emulations and plugins that do all of these things check the Universal Audio plugins, still would rather the hardware.
@@soultraderrecords3651 Yep.. SSL are making plugin versions of each section.. Two are out already, and they are very good..
Would you still add a clipper and limiter after??
I would, this is just for spiceing things up , then you go to the mastering multiband eq and compression and the final on or even two limiters for additional little thighteness. And if you hear those high harsh sounds coming up because of all the limiting and eq-ing, you can for the grande finale use SSL fusion again - just the hf compressor module to polish the highs to perfection.:) I would use it like that.
WOWWWWWWWWW
Does anyone use this with a compressor as an insert? Juts wondering what the difference would be?
How do I route this to be used on the mix bus on a apollo 8?
Wow
That's SSL, there are the best, in conjunction with Rupert Neve design
Nando & Blonde Moby Dick I’m thinking this, a classic fxg384 and a rnd mbp on the 2 Buss
I prefer the API sound to SSL and Neve. Neve is too harsh sometimes, and SSL isn't quite as musical-sounding as API. Neve can sound very musical, but it's not as all-round useful as API.
They're all great, though.
@@antiHUMANDesigns i only own SSL (Super analogue S9000 pre channel strip) & time ago i owned a double Neve AMS EQ (as you said very musical and rounded sound) SSL i find it more aggressive at least the EQ wish is E/black switchable curves response both are aggressive type of sound ¿IMHO?, i wish to be lucky enough get an API as well :-) this are all superb, Rupert Neve judging from samples sound top notch too. This new affordable SSL series are great for the price, i think
Is this SSL's answer to Louder than Liftoff's Silver Bullet?
Didn’t I see this guy in The Kingsman? All seriousness great piece of gear and job of showcasing it’s capabilities.
I need one on all 8 busses LOL.
Dammit... JUST TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Can i set this up with a simple audio interface like the focusrite 4i4?
Sure you just run the outs of your sound card through this and back in and record in your DAW.
*Level matched* comparisons please. Especially as it's possible to do so via the output trim.
Otherwise even +0.2dB when in circuit sounds "better" than bypass.
You can do that easily yourself, just download the files put them in your DAW and guess what?! YOU CAN EVEN MAKE A NULL TEST IN THERE *O* My god, people these days are like infants, they can't help themselves so they scream for attention with the few words they have learned xD
Sorry, I've only been in this business making level matched comparisons for a couple of decades. How about you?
@@TWEAKER01 I have been using pans and other kitchen equipment, connected to my big Neve mixer beating the shit out of snobs and pretentious kiddos. I also used tape once but it was disappointing...have you ever been in the situation where you had to explain to a studio owner, why you just tried to choke him to death with tape? Yeah me neither, since I am a concealed carry kicking ass since decades and bitching about my foot getting dirty with shit. So by which scale do you level match? I am positive it would be safest to use a SPL Meter and measure the speaker output directly, imagine some room mode giving you the impression the file with the boosted bass sounded better. Even better: measure Speaker THD because it can make the audio sound very different from what is actually there, when level rises and the nonlinearities begin to rise exponentially proportional.
@@karatekraken Dude, you've got some serious issues. Go see a doctor or something. Unbelievable.
"So by which scale do you level match?" You level match for unity gain: input = output for each example. Room modes and nodes are irrelevant.
Dope
great demo. but you like 8k way too much! don't blame you, as this is an audition video i would have liked to hear the other highs.
Thanks alot for doing this but you didn't match the levels correctly, a dB louder makes the process of hearing the before and after harder
Thats what I was thinking
Excellent! Can we have the SSL Fusion as a VST plugin? Can you SSL-guys work together with Brainworx to develop this for in-the-box use? Would be great!
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say "no".
Try Acustica Celestial. sounds like a vst version. th-cam.com/video/q4GX_R5byvg/w-d-xo.html
I have it, and now I’m buying the fusion lol.
I'm no audio engineer and probably much of what you choose to do with this device depends on music genre, but I think that in the last example of vocals the spacing make them sound very artificial, unnatural. I would love to have some feedback from experts.
I really like the results in the former two examples.
I felt the same, especially since listening through headphones. It might work in the mix still. But I am no expert.
W
Great sounding box, but the only thing that made this audio tour a tad bad was that the "space" knob was turned up waaay too high! As I understand it, that knob suppose to widen or narrow the lower freq stuff? You would want the low end to be focused and punchy, not wide and sloppy as shown in the video. Most evident on the drum track!
Sounds like a sample Tupac would rap on
great unıt but, the section of the stereo depth does not sound very well for me
It's missing the bus comp but great demo especially the drums.
You can insert a bus compressor for another $5k?
Where is the power switch?
on the back
To think they landed on over $3000 for the price. Mental
it just sounds like the volume got turned up...
SSL FUSION OR LOUDER THAN LIFTOFF SILVER BULLET? Any thoughts?
SSL
1:00 can we get an hour of him doing this? Also, I have a Finalizer if someone wants to trade 😂
Finalizers converters are not actually that bad. I have one connected to the prism digital outs, using the d/a to send to hardware, back into the prism analogs for the a/d. Looking to get one of these to add in that chain. Did you ever manage to trade? hahah
For me it would be perfect if it had tube section in the place of the transformer or better if it had both..
Reading the comments, it seems my question has been answered. That question being, who’d spend $2,500 on something like this? I’ll admit, that EQ sounds pretty good. But, not better than about 10 different plugins I can name. Compressing the high-end? Ok... Also, probably 10 plugins that will do at least as well. I guess my point, is when people think about their 2-bus, and SSL in the same thought, the legendary bus compressor is what they’re thinking. If a $1,500 mixer (SSL 6) can have one in it, why can’t this? And.. I guess to further that thought, any unit designed for for a 2-bus without a full-band compressor in it is useless for me. Am I missing something? Is there a compressor in there I don’t see? I get trying to come up with stuff that is the opposite of what your brand is known for, but SSL is a beloved name for a reason. I don’t understand leaving out the one thing that is most synonymous with the brand.
There's an Insert button to add a bus comp. I use mine with warm audio bus comp..it's great
You're right. It's better to put a top end hardware compressor (like for example Neve Portico II etc.) on a mix to spice (warm, glue, wide, depth) things up before final mastering (if there something left to fix) with plugins.
ys pls
Why are you making this in China?
Same components than if made in the UK, cheaper manufacturing costs.
very cool....I just hate reverb I can hear, so distracting to me anyway....so I don't actually understand what this high end unit can do based on this really reverb wet walk through. sorry to be a scrooge...buying a SiX within the month!
cant afford it, me rent went up and i need to buy extra tins of baked beans and minestrone soup!
Stereo width just ruin the whole process. Rupert Neve MBP much better on that.
do you guys have a Plugin version
i do by acustica
Nice sound overall, but stereo "space" is horrible, sounds like a correlation disaster
my ears must be shit
made in china?
"I harp you knar, I harp you knar..."
lol. Brits.
MMMMMM..... FOR THE PRICE, I STAY WITH THE 2BUS + DANGEROUS ... OR ANY OTHER OPTION ... IN MY OPINION THE NEW PRODUCTS OF SSL SOUND VERY POOR AND IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE MADE WITH GOOD CHEAP MATERIALS ... ONE LAST, I PREFER TO SPEND MY MONEY IN API, NEVE, ETC
What the f were those vocals? Was that English? Barely understandable
And why can't m audio make an affordable versions of great equipment? They could call it the Air One Superbus
Louder is better trick. Lol
Yeah right, since equalization, compression and added harmonic information are "tricks". GTFOOH kid.
You obviously don't know anything about gain staging and AB comparisons.
@@ovonisamja8024 yeah, obviously. Recently I tested a limiter and somehow it made everything sound really bad even though it was loud. What's even more suspicious, that it sounded just as bad after I level matched it. Then decided to not use it at all, simply clipped the converters until I had the nice squarewave I was looking for. Not so easy, all the distortion created a lot of aliasing, so I decided to get a DSD converter, because they don't have ninquyist frequency issues. Is this the level of stupidity you expect of me? How about you actually research what happens at higher levels according to Fletcher Munson. Then you should research how input level and DA-Converter performance correlate. Then how THD in speakers is rising with higher levels and how the different order harmonics create different impressions in speaker sound (warm, clear, screeching, sparkling, detailed, etc.) Then come back an tell me about those AB comparisons and louder is better "tricks". Have you used a Volume knob yet? Guess what, those barfing ports, breaking windows and police officers banging on the door are just an illusion, a trick. Lol.
@@karatekraken Dude, you don't have to explain yourself to me. Sorry if you're offended by my comment but all I said was they should have at least level matched the examples. That's all. Stop defending them.
@@ovonisamja8024 I am sorry my explanation wasn't clear enough, I wasn't offended by your comment but by that nonsensical nitpicky attitude. The difference the processors in this unit make, are way bigger then the perceived "improvement" caused by the increased loudness. It makes no sense to call "louder is better trick" in this situation. It is like worrying about the breaking glass in a car crash, even though it is safety glass which breaks only at speeds where the sheer force of the collision will cause your organs to be ruptured by the seatbelt. It does matter, yes but not enough to be concerned about yet.
I have one. Too much hype. Nothing to write home about.
can you say more about this please? I’m thinking of buying one. Thanks
Does this thing goes before or after mastering comp... ?
Nothing a plugin couldn't do, AND I BET YOU, you couldn't tell which one is which in a side by side comparison . its like trying to tell plugin reverb from real reverb on a mix. Save your money and spend on a Summing mixer.
Waste of money
totally useless