5 Times Other Idols Fat Shamed Women
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- female idols are criticized ruthlessly for how they behave, how they wear their make-up, and what clothes they wear, so let’s find out all the moments when they were fat shamed! subscribe to kookielit.
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"I can lose the weight
But what about the character that you lost in the process of body shaming me"
-Sushmita Sen
Couldn't agree more
Faaxxxx!!!!
aah miss universe for a reason, a queen uplifting other queens👏🏽
@Sarah Riemonn selena gomez a foot model? :D i didnt know that
@Moonbyul's straight hair made me ✨gay ✨ yes!!! She is a literal queen for me. Just an amazing woman with great intellect and personality ✨
@Moonbyul's straight hair made me ✨gay ✨ Well she's an icon , she's the moment
Jihyo carried whole jyp and twice on her shoulder . Respect jihyo .
All the 9 members carried TWICE equally.
@@twicefangirlt.d8 but...isnt she the leaderrr?? Um-
The comment isnt discrediting the member of twice, just saying Jihyo deserves some time to shine too with all she does for the group. They all work hard but cmon man, let em have their individual moments.
@@twicefangirlt.d8 lol no haha twice is nothing without jihyo and nayeon
True 😭
@@geegee6752 ReAlly? wow I didn't know about that 😱
Jyp should be thankful that he got Jihyo.. She's one of the most powerful vocalists and even dancers
Now come on now
@Rapunzel ♪ stop spamming this won't make us watch 😭😭
We'll watch when we want
Jay why pee looks like a perv there i said it💀
@Rapunzel ♪ selena gomez a foot model? :D i didnt know that
I still think it's just for the sake of drama to popularize the show
@@nhu6031 but how??
I mean how would this help making it popular?!
Can't believe he thinks self care equals starvation
Yes, dude knows nothing about health
Yes, heathy diet means having a healthy food not starving (hope you understood wht i mean cuz this is my way of talking or explanation and sorry if you didn’t understand)
@Madeline Mo yes but still instead of tell idols to change the way they look they should change their point of view instead of telling them they work so hard to make us happy they risk their life sometimes just to make us happy and inreaturn we give them hate even if they gain 1kg can’t people understand that gaining little bit of weight is okay and they cant they should keep their mouth shut.
Most female kpop idols don't even have their periods because of how underweight and stressed out they are. That's not healthy.
And Momo ate ice cubes to lose weight. She said she was scared she wouldn't wake up when she went to sleep, because of how weak she was.
@@Ri57490 that's horrifying..
I think people don't realize the impact of their words on someone while body shaming them. It can be traumatic for the other person.
@Jaehoon Ham exactly- :(
exactly
@Jaehoon Ham frfr
I find it disturbing honestly such things slip out of people's mouths in the first place. They will go on their way and live their best lives but the poor person on the receiving end could be damaged for life.
@@musaviki783 ikr.exactly.They might think of it as a mere joke on the figure but for the other person it is not always a joke. We laugh it off to hide our sadness but it always keeps lingering in our heart
The disrespect jihyo got is uncanny, she was a trainee for so long and worked so hard during all those years, jyp should be kissing the floor she walks on
Right. Thinking of it makes me feel so much pleasure and you what is more pleasure someone shooting it and posting it online😂😂😂
It was not disrespect. He is just doing his job and only told the truth. If she wants to become an idol, she needs to be slim. If he let her debut like that, k-neitzens will eat her up
@@leavemealone322 doesn't change the fact that he was being shitty for bodyshaming her.
@@leavemealone322 it's disrespectful to humiliate her on camera in from of thousands of people (viewers of the show). Speaking about someone's weight, unless you're a doctor, is rude.
@@leavemealone322 NO. it was disrespect. business is business yes, but to flat out belittle someone bc of their weight is distasteful. and extremely unnecessary seeing as jihyo has been a jyp trainee since she was a CHILD. only god knows the nasty stuff hes said to her abt her image all theses years.
Shindong has a lot of audacity for a man who isn’t even close to meeting the beauty standard in Korea.
How about we just don’t comment on peoples’ weight and encourage them to be healthy?
yeah.. as of the Korean male body standards he would be considered as a hot air balloon.. and ofcourse he is literally millions of light years away from the Korean male beauty standards...
it reminds me of peter griffin calling louis fat
@@naomioleevia2753Because of his dance skills.
Yeah cos you’re so much better talking about how body shaming it’s so wrong while actually body shaming him as well !! What a hypocritical and ironic speech you have.
Pd. He was actually defending her from her Bf who was the one attacking her; but people only read whatever they want to read in order to attack without proper proofs.
How smart move trying to educate others about a problem without doing your research first, again what a hypocritical and ironic speech you have 🙄🙄🙄
@@LM-ld5yd Do you know why he said that ? And Do you know what he said immediately after that? People only take the info according their narrative so…. 🙄🙄
1st the girl was HIS fan, he was defending her from her BF who doesn’t believe she would lose weight, she called to ask for advice.
Yes he said that, but he didn’t said only that, after that he continued saying this:
That’s how OUR society thinks about this matter, and that’s a wrong way of thinking, I WISH we could change this kind of thinking, but HE ( the girl’s BF ) isn’t going to change; so DO whatever makes you happy. IF YOU WERE MY GF, I WOULD SUPPORT YOU, in whatever that makes you feel prettier (implying is not bad trying to improve ourselves if we think we look prettier and happier like that) .
Tell me you know about this ?? Do you still believe he is wrong for defending her attacking his very own physique to appeal of how society is so hard with girls but not with boys?
And on top of that, he was right !! That’s how their society still thinks and now for both: girls and boys “the slimmer the prettier” and y’all body shaming him are just like them but you pretend to be better than them…. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Can we highlight the fact that majority of the body shaming in the industry is directed towards female Idol's?!?!?!?!?
It's the misogyny and insane double standards for me.... our queen's deserve the world.
I dislike fans who defend their faves problematic behavior
@@dacom1179 okay again? I've been seeing you everywhere like how tf you know all this
@eeheh bro like deadass I've been seeing this person everywhere
@eeheh ikr I'm honestly sick of it now
@eeheh shit seriously? All the more reason not to trust anything they say I guess.
"I'm a boy and you're a girl."
I would've slapped the living shit out of him if he said this to me and I'd just say, "I'm a girl and you're a boy. Learn to take a hit."
That's so true! girls can hit guys but guys can never hit back! double standards right? lol
@@marcobautista9215 Anyone can hit anyone. Doesn't mean they should. My statement is a reflection is Shindong's double standards
@@marcobautista9215 you dont get the point, the guy was the first to say that, it's only fair that she gets to say it back.
And then his going to punch you hard and you're dead lmao 🤣🤣 jk
marcobautista9215
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Kpop female idols can't catch a break. "You're too fat lose weight" "you're too skinny gain weight" what do y'all want leave them alone they are all beautiful
yesss 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽
@arbaaz alam yes I understand that but once they are an idol they shouldn't have to get criticised for gaining weight/losing weight etc every time they are on stage
And sadly girl groups get disbanded more than the male groups
@darklordaz Not all the time, genius. There's a ton of girl groups who mainly disbanned because of treatment from their agency. How about you actually dl research before trying to sound smart
Yeah. It is not like they are obese.
Oh my god.Let them life.they are beautiful in every way.Why are people so mean.And it doesnt suprise me that JYP is there🤬
live not life* and you should put a space after a dot
@@mizcharmy3729 bro not everyone is fluent wtf is this comment omg
@@onyourf_arah yes, I know, that's logic. That's why I'm trying to correct as much as I can. I wasn't being mean about it, so stop overreacting.
@@yeo5811 Dyslexia doesn't prevent you from knowing where to put a space.🙏
@@yeo5811 I don't care what was the reason behind the wrong spelling, I'm correcting everyone, because I'm obsessed with spelling and it's just a comment. As long as I'm not calling anyone dumb, I'm not doing anything wrong.
Park bom is a Queen and legend no one can change this fact
Yes madam/sir you got factz on factz 😌😌
Fact
Yes! Bommie is a sweetheart and deserves respect and admiration.
She’s one of the NICEST idols and people judge her so harshly 😢
Yes!
"if you hate jyp remember, he makes legends" y'all are so funny. We doesn't hate the legends but we hate jyp who is body shamming legends and best example is our queen jihyo.
More people need to realise this
@arbaaz alam these r totally different things, u need a high enough IQ to be in university, but u don't need a certain body shape or weight to be an idol so whatever tf ur saying is totally irrelevant
@arbaaz alam idk if u realise, but, things r changing, kpop is changing, weight isn't as important anymore, so, it's not that I'm new to kpop, it's more like u haven't been catching up with kpop, and the thing u said about how people 'should participate only if they can handle it' sorry to break to u, but, even the skinnier idols can't handle the diets, or the training and performances
@arbaaz alam forcing them to lose weight just to sing and calling them sensitive if they don't is ok to u?? Tf???
@arbaaz alam it sounds more like ur the sensitive one since ur the one that has to insult people just to prove a point
Over half of SUJU members are problematic…
@Sarah Riemonn selena gomez a foot model? :D i didnt know that
fr
Facts.
Donghae and Ryeowook are the ONLY unproblematic SUJU members tbh lmaooo
@@onghwang7026 ryeowook once made a colourist comment on Vixx's N darker skin
i don't know why it is always a problem when it comes to female idols.
Double standards
@@going17svt i hate these double standards
I think the fans' gender may also play a part in it somehow. I mean there are also some male stans who criticize too (to be "perfect") but based on my experience, I've seen way more female stans bashing other female idols than male stans bashing female idols.
@@yalljoshuaismyexistence2766 true true...also, I really appreciate the perfect grammar lol
It's because men think that women exist to visually appease them.
On of my favourite people ever will forever be that girl that shouted "WHAT DO YOU MEAN GAINED WEIGHT??" at IU after she said something about gaining weight.
That's how all fans should be
Yeah Idols are told to lose weight because of many fans
Even if company don't force idols to go on a diet and don't care bout looks
Many netizens will still do
The way Bom is still treated is evil. She is almost 40, she should not be expected to be as pencil thin as she was when she was 25-30. After all she has been through she deserves to be her happiest
Bom is one of the biggest victims of kpop and I'm still fuming about what they did and still do to her
Then she should start her own music label and be her own boss.
@@gfdchugh Do you know what commas and periods are? Your comment was a nightmare to read.
Billie Eilish has attained international fame, she's a normal girls size. Pop music is inherently a product of the Western music industry. Supporting girls and the boys with a heathy body size is a concept that moves forward into the real world.
Billie still gets fat shamed because she's big chested. Bit like Jihyo. Jihyo had like such a flat stomach like Billie bit she still got called fat. Billie's coming out of her shell as is Jihyo and shining so everything is getting better for them :)
All sizes are normal! Also being skinny or fat doesn’t automatically mean you’re unhealthy, and having an average body size doesn’t necessarily mean you’re healthy either. As long as someone’s not dangerously under or overweight, they can still be healthy :)
"normal girls size" bro
stan queen billie , queen hwasa and queen CL
Please don't compare a western artist to kpop. Billie Eilish is lucky to be born in the other part of the world, if she had been born in Korea they would destroy her. In Korea, beauty standards are TOO high and talent doesn't earn as much as beauty. A Korean girl once told me that at family gatherings there will always be someone to point out if you are overweight (if they see you "fat"), even if it's the least bit, if you don't meet those beauty expectations they will criticize you.
In Asia they are much more misogynistic than the West, the female idol receives more criticism and hate than the male idol.
The obsession with being super skinny as well as with plastic surgery is what I really dislike about the k-pop industry... Telling completely healthy women/girls that they are too big and therefore not beautiful enough disgusts me!!
Thank you for this video!
Honestly, if companies would change "suggesting" their idols to do ps or always complaining about their weight and invest in their idols mental health and well being, we wouldn't be here...and there are the people idols have to face online attacking them on this subject too... Literally, there is no company who actually cares about their idols...we are all humans in the end...
@@alexc9278 I agree
Personally, I don't care if they get plastic surgery or not. It's more of it's wrong when the companies "suggest" that they get plastic surgery. If they personally wanted it for themselves, more power to them. We're not all born with the feature(s) we love/want, and I think that's okay. I don't dislike plastic surgery, I dislike the company basically forcing the idols to get it against their will and telling them they're not pretty enough. I mean, just like at the CEO of the companies 😩 like sir you aren't anywhere NEAR dilf material so stfu please and thank you
even my own father bodyshaming me to be 82 kg when people around me says [you r not fat thoo] as well as we know everyone in this world has a diferent figure thoo. damn hurt
*idols gain weight*
“omg you’re fat lose some weight!!”
*idols lose weight*
“omg you looked better when you had some extra weight on”
they can never win
I am not idols
I have to hear those things
@@deadinside8719 😩SAMEE
honestly, not surprised that jyp is here! also what shindong said, was not just fat-shaming it was sexist as well.. his apology just seemed like an excuse to help reduce the amount of hate he was getting
its really saddening how people don't realize that what you say can actually traumatize someone :(
How do you know his apology wasn’t genuine?
@@bbasarkarko7408 it's just my personal opinion based on whatever i saw in the video
@@swechhaa1935 the video is just a small cut of an entire episode. Morever the video is not even close to what the actual episode was about. He dndnt say that girls aur supposed to be thin.
HE SAID IN KOREA PEOPLE THINK THAT MEN CAN BE FAT WHILE WOMEN ARE MEANT TO BE THIN,that’s what korean’s believe in is what he said.
@@bbasarkarko7408 I can't seem to find the original episode so i'm not sure what the entire thing was exactly. But the point i was trying to make was entirely based on what i saw in this video. The video basically was just quoting his comments and i made my view based on that!
And acc to that, what shindong said was "if someone had to lose weight, i would tell them to lose weight... why can't you take care of yourself?" and he went on with "... i'm a boy and you're a girl" does he mean if a man is chubby he's fine, but if a woman is chubby she's not taking proper care of herself? I'm perfectly aware about the fact that in korea, people have similar thoughts as this! but that does not justify what shindong said. I'd appreciate it if you'd share the link to the original video, or his exact statement of apology :)
@darklordaz How are we sensitive and dumb for caring about eatibg disorders? How is starving yourself for says to please people like you good? How is any of the misogynistic bullshit you said like stufyibg for an exam?
Toxic stans: "OMG this idol fat shamed another idol, cancel them"
Also them: *Request an idol to leave the group, bash on socmed, call them fat and ugly for gaining a bit of weight.* "I am entitled with my own opinion"
Let's get real. We have diverse bodies. Some people tend to be skinny while some are in the thicker side. As long as we are healthy I think body size shouldn't really matter.
I have a Korean friend she's a little chubby.. and many of her schoolmates fat shame her.. I remember that time when she went to my room and suddenly burst out crying saying that her classmates bullies her it made angry then she ask me "how can I lose weight? How can I be as skinny as you?" Did you know how hurt I was when I heard those words.. I said to her "you don't need to lose weight.. you're perfectthe way you are.. if the others can't accept you then I will" thankfully she's ok now and not insecure about her weight anymore
I'm so sorry for your friend...people are so mean these days :( I'm happy she's okay now and hope she won't let idiots get in her way
It’s very annoying to see beautiful women getting criticized by not even closee to good looking men (I don’t like using the word ugly but you know what I mean ^^). Men who don’t even put half the effort into their looks. So disgusting the world we live in today!
Right. But we can’t do anything bcuz we are the who made this world like this. That’s i belive that “This world is so beautiful but more cruel, heartless and emotinless than it is gorgeous
@Madeline Mo but a lot of kpop fans are kids. They just follow what is presented to them as the norm e.g whitewashing and extremely thin idols. Companies do have a lot of power in this.
@arbaaz alam I don’t understand how what you typed relates to what I typed at all...
@darklordaz Maybe if someone with a better brain had written it, I’d have understood but unfortunately for you, the language of stupid is one I do not speak. So sorry for not understanding:)
@darklordaz idols literally starve themselves though. Obviously being beautiful is a requirement to be an idol but it shouldn’t be at the detriment of health. Also I don’t understand why you’re whining about young people? If anything I think criticizing negative beauty standards is a good thing
Some male "fans" expect female idols to have perfect hourglass body when their bodies are no where near perfect🙄
It's ironic how 90% kpop fans are female and most people who hate are females. Coming from a female too. Don't whitewash stuff just because you wanna defend females lmfao
Does jyp know that baby fat exists especially when you are still a teenager
In my country chubby people are considered beautiful than skinny people. Whatever your body shape is people still has something to criticize
Sammme ++truuee
I get so much comments from my relatives and mom telling me I shouldn't be skinny and that its not healthy and people will say that I don't eat and blah blah..
Everyone is beautiful in their own way
@@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan people would say doesn't your mom give you food 😂
What country is it?
@@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan truee
@@xiuminnie.minnie omg literally this is how they think lol
These Female idols are literal legends! They don't need a certificate to prove they are good enough.
suju in general is just WILD i can't believe they still have fans
Yeahh right but oh well 16 years in the industry and still going strong. It’s sad that you can’t believe but it is what it is.
@@bbasarkarko7408 lmao u thought u did sth there
@@yeoj1n907 U actually thought You did
Bo one gives shit about them they only have korean fans
I've been a k-pop fan since late 2007 and I still genuinely don't understand what do people find in them?🤔 🧐I can say that Ryeowook has a nice voice but aside from that?
In my opinion,they're not appealing at all, artistically wise ,personality wise and physical appearance wise.I just don't get it 🤷♀
The captions are so accurate even though they are auto generated
Her English is pretty good and clean that's why 😭😭
I'm really underweight and some people don't even realise they're body shaming me, because they think "it's not body shaming when you're skinny, only when you're overweight". It really hurts and that's a really sensible topic for me because I can't really gain weight. Not because I don't want to or an eating disorder but because of a certain different illness. It always makes me so insecure and hurts me but they just don't get it.
I totally feel you! I'm not even underweight but in this messed up world that's what I am looked at as. People can be absolutely awful but it feels like we can't say anything because we are "fortunate." I'm so sorry you have to go through this. It's not right
As someone who started out as skinny, gained a whole bunch of weight and was fat shamed throughout my childhood, and through bad depression phase in early adulthood, I lost a whole bunch of weight. I was skinny, I felt good about myself 😔 only for friends and colleagues to ask me worrying questions and if I was sick (due to my extreme weight loss) being fat shamed and skinny shamed is so emotionally traumatizing. We are all just a blob of meat and bones. Eat and love yourself, it’s hard for me but I’m trying to get better at it
Let's not forget that Dahyun can't talk about her time as a trainee because it was so stressful and she was not allowed into the cafeteria to eat. Momo and Sana were banned as well! Momo even stated that she and another male idol (supposedly Bang Chan from skz) would steal other trainees' food so they can eat something. Ryujin and Chaeryeong from Itzy have admitted to eating food in closets. It's crazy that JYP promotes this behavior when ALL medical experts say that it is harmful.
Commenting about someone's weight, even if it's meant in a nice way, should stop completely. Why do people think they have the right to talk about someone else body?
Ikr?! If someone is telling you to take care of yourself shouldn't be related to your weight at all
I think this is always just an excuse to not sound rude
they're idols. their main appeal is to look good
@@thebeardisgoat1494 and that is related to my comment in what way?
If you mean that it is in fact okay to talk about someone elses body than you have a disgusting view on the world
@@prinzessinazula8660 why is it forbidden to talk about someone's body when it's okay to critique singing or dancing skills? because it hurts the feelings of fatties?
ShinDong’s comment reminded me of what Billie Eilish said-
“Give an ugly guy a chance and he thinks he rules the world”
Just cause he was able to debut and be famous despite his weight he thinks he can just casually comment on other peoples weight.
Your comment is lowkey fatshaming. Shindong got called out on his comments, that were made over 10 years ago, apologized, and learned to be better.
@@shiningjewel4034 and your reply shows you’re an enabler. Literally, trying to side someone who fatshamed women for having the body that they want. He was not just a fatshamer, but a sexist too. Telling woman what they need to be and they were “supposed” to be, just to fit on his own perspective. He was called out that’s why he apologized, do you think he would apologize if ppl let it pass? No. Now, stfu, Ms. Enabler.
@@shiningjewel4034 exactly. If you are gonna fat shame him, then how are you any different.
@@shiningjewel4034 Calling a guy ugly based on an ugly personality isn't really an unjust insult. True it was then and he maybe changed, but well, the insult sticks to the him of back then at the very least.
@@scionsilverbeat8149 I think over 10 years since his controversial statements without a repeat matters. I think it shows he's not the villain others want to make him out to be. I daresay being called fat, among other insults, has been thrown at him much more than he has ever uttered to anyone else.
Ladies No matter what body type you are, we are bound to be criticised by some random idiot in this world … so just be yourself and be comfortable in your skin. It literally took me a lot of time to accept my self but it’s worth it
it's sad cause south korea is one of the most advanced countries yet their society is so much behind.
Honestly for me all body shapes are pretty and beautiful.If you're chubby it's adorable & cute💜
I don't understand why people don't like that it's normal.
Shindong has an old school sense of "humor" that teeter-totters between rude and just toxic and it hasn't changed. If you watch the reaction video to Taemin's Advice MV he makes a few "jokes" about Taemin's appearance and basically admits that he was one of the people who used to tease Taemin for his appearance for being pretty or "looking like a woman", saying how it was always like that as if it were a cute story - when most of us knows how that used to really bother Taemin until he decided to own the concept of being both masculine and feminine.
Jonghyun saw Taemin's struggle and wrote Pretty Boy, basically an f-you anthem of the stereotypes people have of what a man is or should be, that being sensitive or a pretty boy somehow doesn't make you a man.
As for weight, rhe focus should be on being healthy not the number on a scale. Idols need a better support system that suit their needs for all of the hard work they do and energy they burn. It make me so angry when an idol says they've not eaten or all they've eaten for whole week was ONE piece of grilled chicken and sweet potatoes. Literally, just water and freaking sweet potatoes and half of the time not even a whole potato the entire day. How in the hell can one maintain a healthy mind and body on just sweet potatoes when you burn more calories in one day than you intake all week!?
But what kind of nonsense are you talking about do you even know Korean ? Or know SHINee X SuJu relationship??
When he said that he actually was talking about the concept that the very own Taemin as you said choose in that MV; furthermore He was being funny when he talked about it, he was talking from a director point of view, another thing Shindong is the SuJu that never use aegyo or talks in a cute way; but he used that cute and sweet tone while talking about Taemin, that’s mean he was actually praising and adoring his concept. Super Junior is one of the groups that always been there for SHINee, even when they were traines Suju take care of them specially Jinki, Minho and Taemin; hi search how SHINee loves SuJu to the moon and back how SuJu is always there when they were struggling, when they have hard times; SuJu was there; when they have his glory days SuJu was there; they know them even more than the fans do cos they all grow up together and Super Junior have always treated SHINee as their precious little brothers when SHINee got sick was SuJu who covered for them even if they don’t know the chorro they did their best for SHINee, of course like brothers the love to tease each other; Minho have bashed Eunhyuk in the past and you don see jewels ( his own fandom ) coming for him; because we understand that they are that close that the tease each other like that !!
@@johysjofdj There is something that should be clarified here - I never said anything bad about Super Junior. I am very aware of how close Super Junior is with SHINee and how they support them. If I'm not mistaken, Shindong was the one who directed one of Taemin's live performances before his enlistment. I'm also aware of how much support there was for them when they lost Jonghyun. The only thing I addressed in my post was my opinion of Shindong's sense of humor; nothing more, nothing less.
I personally like Super Junior. They were one of the first set of groups I've listened to since 2007. However, Shindong does have an old school sense of humor that ebbs into those territories at times - as do many other idols, actors, and comedians. Just because it's commonplace does not mean I have to like, enjoy, or agree to it on a personal level.
For contextual sake, I will say this: people in general who make certain types of jokes, I don't find humor in anymore for very specific and personal reasons. Be it a celebrity, a friend, or my own family.
It's easy to write something off as just a joke if your only looking at one side of it. Everyone always thinks of how to make others laugh, but never how that punchline may make someone feel if there is a specific target. I grew up with this sort of "humor", and to make a long and tragic story short, have lost a close family friend to suicide because of of a topic like this.
My brother found him. Our mom found his journals. In his journals, he wrote every heartbreaking detail of how others made him feel. Every joke, every comment, every outright insult. He was a kind and sensitive man and a devoted father of 3 kids, yet was aways made fun of for "not being man enough" and people always "joking" about him on a personal level because he did not fit a macho stereotype. When what you think is a light hearted joke with good intentions results in something like that - it changes your prospective forever.
We all tease people we like or care about but at some point there is a line that should be drawn to what is considered funny versus potentially harmful. It's up to you where you draw that line, and what consequences may result from it. For idols, we only see a small spectrum of their lives and personalities through a lense. Taemin for example may have developed a thicker skin, but that doesn't mean other people have and in the long run, helping someone in a situation doesn't constitute bad jokes.
No one has to agree with me or like my opinion. That's all it is, an opinion. I'm not an anti throwing hate or shade to another group or fandom (I like Super Junior) nor am I unaware of Korean or Asian culture in general (I'm part, my mom is half) I'm just someone with my own personal experiences that addressed a bothering topic.
Why does jyp still have a spot in the industry with how ruthless and arrogant he is. It literally doesn't make any sense.
@Isabel reed º○º Ok that still doesn't change anything ppl are quick to cancel ppl for stealing so much as a penny but not a man who body shames ppl left and right???? It makes no sense no matter how you put it. They've "canceled" ppl for being "lazy" on stage but not jyp?
@Isabel reed º○º Ok but fans and society do again as much as ppl will cancel someone for doing so much as breathing heavy all logic goes out the window with him shoot ppl have went as far canceling the president idk why a lower ranking is getting mercy
@@dacom1179 wait they really did that?
@@dacom1179 She sounds crazy as hell
He's a pathetic jealous man who sabotaged his boy group (Got7) bc he needs to be the most successful and popular male at his company
Encouraging healthy lifestyle is one thing, but to tell a young girl in her teens.... that is too harsh. What if ppl told JYP that he looks like a dirty old creep and needs a new face? How'd that feel....
All these JYP comments remind me when all the Red Velvet members gained weight except for Seulgi and some netizens were saying she’s the only one who “takes care of herself” that has always made me annoyed bc everyone can’t control their weight gaining/losing
I noticed sm is not really that strict with their diets for their recent gg specially with rookies. Like they still make them control weight and do weight measurements and stuff I also noticed that sm has diet rules but regardless artists can still sneak in food and eat and they let them debut or comeback even with normal weight. RV were healthy looking that period, and they can eat properly but it's the fans and media who hurt them specially Joy and Wendy so then maybe SM and themselves pushed to diet and lose weight. Same with Aespa they started out healthy looking during black mamba but after that they got thinner and thinner and this is due to how media and fans criticize them esp. Ningning and Giselle :(
i feel like a lot of comments are missing the point... cuz saying stuff like "he's saying that about a beautiful woman when he's fat and ugly himself" is reaaaally not the way to go here. you're doing the exact thing you're mad at someone else for doing. it's like how when jimin (aoa) was perceived as a bully, a lot of people suddenly started piling on about her looks (saying she was "nasty and anorexic"), not realizing that by doing that they were being bullies themselves. you can lift people up without tearing others down in a shallow way. you can support people who are being body shamed without body shaming others in the process.
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I still think about how Jihyo sang Meghan Trainor's All About The Bass on the episode following the one in which she was fat shamed. Although I personally don't like the message the song sends, her performance felt like a savage comeback.
Body shaming should just stop, stop forcing others to go on diets, it doesn't help, it will make you feel worse, stop shaming female idols, they too are humans not robots. Let them live their lives, they're beautiful the way they are
why is it ALWAYS a problem when its related to FEMALE. Like bro we suffer enough pls just let us have freedom.
The first time I heard Momo's story about the ice cubes (a couple months ago) I remember I cried. I also have an ed and at my worst I I remember I wouldn't eat anything in a day. I was even scared to drink water because I thought it would have calories that would make me "fat" but I was also scared that I would starve to death. I can't imagine how hard it was for Momo and so many other idols who have to endure this, especially when they're in the spotlight and basically have nobody to talk to.
"Even shindong is a little bit chubby his whole life" Dude 🤣🤣
Jihyo is literally one of the prettiest and the most talented idols...
Imagining fat shaming HER..
Forget that, imagine being so shallow that you fat shame ANYONE...
Honestly, jihyo's SO unbelievable beautiful, talented and charismatic that she could gain 100 pounds and she would still be a better idol than 90% of the idols currently in the industry
“Fans” and CEOs really think that the idols aren’t people. They need to be treated with respect and praised for all their accomplishments rather than harming their mental state with rude remarks and dieting. Awful
As a girl who cant lose weight, i somehow relate to their struggles.. being fat is not easy and loosing weight is more challenging, exercise everyday eating meals a day with no carbs makes me dizzy sometimes i felt like im going to pass out, its so much struggle for us to lose weight and yet there's people saying, its easy just exercise, every girl have there own condition not everyone can do what others can do..
I've been bullied for being chubby my whole life and seeing someone else getting bullied or shamed for how they look (skinny or fat) is very painful for me even if it's someone I hate because I know what it feels like to be hungry and wanting to eat but remembering "what if I get fat after eating this? What if people start hating me again?" I've been through that and I had lost so much weight and passed out during our P.E. class then I had to stay at a hospital for 5 months I used to eat only vegetables, chicken and liquid food and I used to vomit right after eating so I was pretty much surviving on water and the little bits of what I ate and I still have that food phobia kinda thing I still eat very little
Jihyo is literally my bias and like... she was mistreated so bad :( there is actually a japanese belief that the current face and physique you have was your soulmate's in your past life.... rly made me feel pretty and better about myself.
Suju members are weird. Half of them victimizes women while the other half do their best to protect women from perverts and bullies
Well they didnt choose to form suju together, sm chose the members. So it makes sense they all have their own views and morals that dont all align with eachother
Nope all of them victim women , the rest just pretend to be nice
@@ramenomirice2767 Hahahahaha
@@bbasarkarko7408 lmao did he tell you that
@@ramenomirice2767 did the women tell you that?
Let these gorgeous women be themselves if they don't want to loose weight whats ur problem or maybe you don't know they're trying to loose weight gradually let them know they're beautiful just the way they are
if they dont look good, they shouldn't debut and be celebrities
If I owned a company I would let my idols speak up and confront the people that criticizes them or anything (it's literally the bare minimum) because all idols deserve to have a voice when it comes to this topic and rude fans needs to learn how to keep their mouth shut.
The ones who are bashing should be bashed first. I never liked shindong. He deserves more hate.
All of suju deserves more hate tbh
I agree he shouldn't say that but no one deserves hate
You don't heal hate thru hate hun!!
@@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan i agree with u
was gana say tht lol
@@nolife8209 waah Hi5 bestie ✋ lol
We shouldn't support hate towards anyone no matter what instead spread awareness and if they have bad personalities then be more mature than them ;)
Simple!!
The thing he said was like 11 years ago .People can change, you know?
Idk why people forgave Shindong
Well... It was 11 years ago people can change and he did apologize but it's true that his comment did hurt people at that time and even now.
@@melaniaarce8226 it was 11 years ago and he doesn’t seem to still think this way. plus, he lost weight himself so i don’t think he has this “men can be fat” mentality anymore.
i feel like Shindong was just projecting because he always talked about how he received a lot of hate for being fat. plus, it’s been 11 years. we’re allowed to forgive him.
He was just saying what almost all Koreans thought and still think for many. They are obsessed by beauty and standardisation. Once you get that, you can hope for their mentality to change little by little but you can't blame just one man raised in this society to tell what this society think. He knew because he was fat shamed since his debut (and had to do a lot of diets too); he was just saying that woman need to look beautiful if they want to be well accepted in Korea and it was and still is unfortunately a fact that beauty with really strict standards are the norm in Korea. Blame almost all Koreans for that. They constantly speak or joke about beauty/look in tv shows and in real life, when they say hello. It takes time to change this kind of mentality in a country where living out of the norm is not accepted.
Because he is a male. People out there forgiving rapist
When I was younger I was very skinny and people in my family body shamed me but covered it up by saying “I’m worried your not eating” or “I just want you to eat more” so I became self conscious and gained weight then was told to loose it
I constantly have this issue now with gaining and loosing the same 20/15 pounds because of this. Don’t body shame it just make people insecure
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body shaming is bad as a whole. people need to stop
When Ailee and the other girl cried on that show I cried along her too.
I don’t really know what to say, but if you don’t feel comfortable in your own skin, then change it. Change your skin to fit how you want it to so that you are comfortable. You don’t need to fit into anyone else’s standards to look pretty, you just need to be confident and love yourself.
Imagine being this young and someone telling you this on national TV..that too by such older men....damn that's how you define cruelity
How is jyp gonna be like "we all need to eat healthy, have a healthy diet, have 3 meals a day" and then suggest to a minor, that she should eat 1 meal a day, like fuck, her body shouldn't even matter to everyone besides herself
What a harsh industry to be in.
But Shindong literally apologized like 10 years ago, why he is still the subject?
'5 Times Other Idols Fat Shamed Women'
hes just sexist.
Did you even watch the video? They said even though it was 10 years ago it is still relevant to today’s conversation. Watch before you speak/type abeg.
He only apologized because he got hate he is sexist it is very evident in videos
@@ramenomirice2767 and you the reporter?
For those who don't hate blindly and are intellectually honest, here's the truth about Shindong's case: He was actually defending the woman!
Those are bad translations and out of context. What happened was the girl told about her situation and Shindong said those things like a social critic. He was saying fat men would say stuff like that to women and then they would say it was ok for them to be fat because they are men. Like that's how society treats people, and it's even worse with women. He was actually defending the woman!
Then it was asked if he thought idol women should be fat and he said no, because they would suffer too much. He was "a man" and still people hated on him and he suffered a lot, but people would be even worse with women and call them lazy and ask why they didn't take care of themselves and stuff like that and he never wanted a girl to go through what he went through and much worse.
Same applies with the other members. Social critics taken out of context to make it look like it was their opinions and not them defending others.
Yes
The complete irony that people say “you need to be healthy and take care of yourself … ok now go starve yourself to be bone skinny” like wtf?
And fun fact, it’s actually easier and quicker to die from anorexia than to die from obesity. People act like hating fat is due to health reasons but in reality, they just hate it because of beauty standards. People just like to use “health” as an excuse. It’s never about health, it’s about looking like a goddamn Barbie doll.
I just wanna say it here, if everyone were to fit in ANY "Beauty standards" we all would be the same, same person with the same face, weight and height which is literally being clones of each other and it is BORING can you imagine how different people are and how beautiful everyone is in their own way because THEY ARE THEMSELVES, everyone in this world is unique in their own way, you need no beauty standards you need to love yourself ❤
It's really important that we stop body shaming people online and on social media. The rude comments under pictures, comparing women in "who looks better" posts - all that does is force us to judge each other. It only sets us back and women, now more than ever, need to empower each other.
If I was jihyo I literally just would’ve said “Um can I leave now since you don’t want me?”
These things are the absolute disturbing and unthinkable. I’m so shocked. I think these men shouldn’t criticize the idols. Thank you for bringing this important issue in the kpop community.
I hope idols would stop being brought down by others, and stop apologizing for not being skinny af. They are still talented, beautiful, and most importantly humans. Just like us.
I really hope ailee will be in a better environment in her new company, she definitely deserves all the best for going through everything for years ❤
I've always wondered about the stylist. even if the artist gains weight, do these large industry stylists not know how to dress the idol in clothes that compliment the idol's body type? whenever an idol poses for a magazine cover, the magazine stylist dresses them perfectly. but once they return to their company, it's like the label stylist has difficulty doing their job.
JYP is the last person to talk about ANYONE and the way they look when he looks like handsome Squidward.
Nobody:
JYP: self care is starving yourself and feeling like you are dying
I JUST forgot the fact that BangChan (Straykids) sneaked in food for the twice members, who were on a diet, AND took the blame for eating all the food
Suju or some other older idols being bashed for stuff they did 10 years ago, but the rest of yall 'perfect and squeaky clean' oppas are being forgiven for everything 🦋 Some of the shit mentioned is even taken out of context.
The fact that they aren’t even overweight shows how toxic Kpop really is. Honestly, this needs to stop
I'm so happy for those who fought this and are themselves. God loves and bless yall ilyyy. And praying for those going through it
The saddest thing with this is that even if there may be some ppl who are not obsessed with how idols bodies looks like, majority of fans actually do care about it. Many idols (especially females) even quit because of the hate they received. And sometimes it wasn't only the direct hate but just a different treatment or less popularity. I remember the video from Pristin fanmeeting when literally nobody was paying attention to Kyla when she posed. It wasn't a direct hate towards her but imagine how she probably felt that time... Also in different survival shows ppl tend tp vote more for trainees with ideal figure. They mostly vote not based on their actual talent but visual. That's why as i absolutely hate fat shaming i understand companies point of views to some degree. Sometimes it may be better for an idol to go on a diet than be constantly criticized - as long as it not too dreadful ofc.
Although what he said was extremely upsetting it is true in many societies, women are expected to look top notch while the men are praised or not looked down upon as much as women for merely being average. His whole career he has always been that "big" member but he still remained that way even with the constant criticism I mean look at the female idols on the list they were told couple of times that they were "fat" and they lost an insane amount of weight in a short span of time,like Momo wouldn't even have performed if she didn't lose 7kg in a week while Shindong had a decade and they were still no changes to his weight.Although what he said was harsh it is sadly the reality that most women have to go through and we all know it.
What he said was harsh if you see only the cuts.
What he meant was according to the korean society which is #facts
People would call shindong for fatshaming a female while
in general everybody have their own ‘i like tall boys’, i like short girls etc.
I can’t stand these people that think that being skinny is healthy. People be healthy and be ok with how you look. Fat shaming is just wrong, I never knew that super junior group would think that way. I was always thin while growing up. But now I am not and it is hard to lose the weight because of so many medical and physical issues. But I have learn to except myself no matter what others might say.
Good for you and don’t measure your looks by what some idiot thinks. Be your own beautiful self.
JYP's comments sound more like he's talking about beef cattle. Disturbing
Park Bom and Jihyo literally get sooo much hate from debut till now and it’s insane to me because you focus on both these women’s looks so much when they’re the two of NICEST and most unique vocals in kpop and they’ve been through so much hardship. RESPECT ALL WOMEN NOT JUST YOUR FAVES.
Lots of female idols gets criticized for gaining/losing weight! Secret's Hyosung also had a similar case as Ailee, people kept telling her to lose weight and when she did they would criticize her for losing weight saying she was "prettier" before.
Also Jihyo in SIXTEEN was criticized by the judge panel in their photoshoot mission (if i remember correctly it was the photographer) and she was disrespectful towards jihyo while taking the pictures and after when the judges were talking about which member was the best model.
I wanna also mention Hyuna who was criticized for posting picture of her weight that indicated she was 45kg i guess or something like that, and people said she was encouraging an unhealthy weight for younger fans when in reality she was struggling into gaining weight and actually was getting healthier and wanted to show people that she was gaining weight.
In conclusion, people love body shaming idols whether it be for gaining or losing weight and sometimes it's so disgusting!
Bom is the most beautiful no matter what people say....she looks beautiful for her age....
Our bodies are precious we should take care of it. Having a healthy mind and healthy body is a blessing 💜 Don't listen to dumb people , you are beautiful and no one has the right to judge you 💜💜
I'm not even defending shindong... it's actually the harsh society that kept judging women. Its just in Korea, the beauty standard is ridiculous. In my place even, the beauty standard and the harsh judgement from the society towards women are just too much. Women will always be blamed over anything, weight and skin tone the most.
At this point, for super junior, just throw the whole group away
I agree fr that not famous no more and they judgemental if I met super junior I will all there feeling I like who I am
I felt bad and started crying while watching this because I’ve always had trouble with my weight and trying to lose it that I couldn’t imagine what would happen to me if I was in these female idols position. These women are beautiful and don’t need to lose weight, but hearing the words of people I looked up to saying to lose weight really damages the self confidence I’ve built up even though they weren’t talking to me.
All of the times I’ve been at a slim “ideal” weight, I was at rock bottom for some reason or another. And yet people assume that losing weight or being slim means that I am healthy or “taking care” of myself. No. Everyone is different and I’m meant to be stockier. It hurts my heart to see other people treated like this.
"I'm a boy and you're a girl"
Bro what.There's no diffrence of loosing weight but I think everyone can loose weight if they can
Yes
No but all of these diets are so unhealthy 😞
I feel bad for all the idols who have to go through these horrible diets 😞
the fact that all these women aren’t even fat-
You know what's beautiful? Having female idols eat 3 meals a day with snacks (or at least listening to their hunger cues and eat) and drinking enough water to stay hydrated!