I’ve been wearing the Ranger on a rubber strap for about 4 months. Super comfortable it flies under the radar. The avocado color grows on you. I didn’t appreciate it when I first got it, but I enjoy looking at the simple dial now. It’s a completely understated watch, and that’s the beauty of the design.
i agree. It works well with a lot of different strap options. The green isn’t as noticeable in person, but you can pull it out if you switch up the band. I keep it on the bracelet most of the time though. It’s got a quality look while being no nonsense.
I have more expensive, more "interesting" looking watches... but the Ranger, is the watch I wear more than anything else. It's simple some would say boring... but it's understated, highly legible, doesn't need to be babied and pretty much works with any strap you throw on it. I've taken it up mountains for hiking and skiing, camping, used it whilst skateboarding, swimming and even just for work in the office... The "fauxtina" lume that everyone gets offended by is really nice at night time as it glows rather than illuminates and the best part is that it lasts all night. This is one of those watches that looks a bit meh in the photos but once you've lived with it, it makes sense why Tudor did it.
Longines has soooo much potential as a brand. After your video interviewing a longines representative I really believe the company is really dialing in its iconic watches and going to become a more common brand to see people wearing
Complete agree they have history…especially in aviation. Lindburgh, Hughes, Earhart. Swatch has the marketing power to ride the moon landings with Omega, why can’t they do something similar with Longines?
Longines should be on the same playing field as Rolex…seriously. The heritage is undoubtedly there. For some reason, Swatch is keeping the brand down, relatively speaking.
I just got the Longines Spirit, amongst these watches, the shiny silver stars and the winged hour glass logo on the dial, just attractive to gaze at! Eye candy!
I have worn the Ranger 2022 every day for months. Work, gym, hiking in the smokies, and out and about. Its bracelet is scuffed, scratched and beat. Some nicks on the case itself. Its legible, simple, and no one knows its a Tudor. Perfect everyday watch for me.
Swatch with there general lack of marketing more than likely. I defintly grew up seeing the longines watches in magazines along with rolex, tag heuer breitling, tissot but maybe since the days of the internet I see alot less manufacture direct maketing
Swatch about 20 years ago prioritized Asia quite a bit which certainly was not a dumb decision by any means, but it has left some of their brands to be overlooked in the states. Longines is one of them though that has a significant trajectory as they continue to gain the appreciation they rightfully deserve.
I think the brand has always been respected but they've lacked relevant pieces in the catalogue. That seems to be changing and the future looks bright.
@@TeddyBaldassarre Interesting point. I wasn’t aware Swatch focused on Asia in the past. While it makes a lot of sense to me at the Swatch price point 20 years ago. It shows the challenges large groups intrinsically have with brand differentiation. AKA Their ability to walk and chew gum. 😊
The little details of the Longines make it for me - the way the diamond on the seconds hand lines up with the diamond on the dial, the applied elements, the case finishing, etc. just make it feel more premium, without being flashy, compared to the Tudor.
I bought a Ranger on Teddy's video recommendation, and it is by far my favorite watch. I love the understatement. It isn't a watch that random people look at and wonder If I spent 3 grand on it. They just see a watch. This is a watch for ME. I know what its value is, and I appreciate seeing it on wrist. And when someone that knows comments, it jsut makes it cool that another watch aficionado sees it. But for me, this is the perfect watch.
I bought a Longines Spirit 40mm before Christmas. It's an excellent watch and incredible value. I bought mine (black dial on Leather) in a UK sale from an AD - at a £600 discount. I hadn't planned on buying one that day, but when I saw the price, I ordered one. I'm a big guy and my usual sweet spot is 41-42 - but this 40 fits well and looks good. It's keeping excellent time and the black dial helps "subdue" the black date window - almost to the point of invisibility. The 21mm lug width may worry some but I've had a couple of straps made by a Vietnamese guy I found on Etsy - and most 22mm leather straps will fit a 21mm watch. To sum up, I think it's an excellent watch that stands comparison with other brands whose watches are skating by on the coat tails of "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Great content, Teddy and team. I recently compared two micro-independent daily watches, Formex Essence 39 and Monta Noble. I definitely pull the trigger on the Formex because of import taxes to EU but I couldn't find any other topic to balance my choice from one way or the other. Hope this example helps you to plan more content or to confirm you this content is absolutely convenient. Great thanks for your work.
First off, as always, great production and insight. That same insight helped me pick my first two watches, the Orient Kamasu and Brew Metric, which I couldn’t be happier with. As for these two featured pieces, I really like the Longines. In its price point, I think it dresses up better than any other aviation watch. Also, I give a lot of respect to Longines for recognizing what Watch enthusiasts want in sizing but also not swinging the pendulum too far.
Since you mentioned Orient, the prices of these pieces remind me of the TREMENDOUS value of the Orient Star Sports Outdoor (RK-AU0204L). For those who don't need a prestigious brand name, the Orient Star is VERY similar in look and specs (not COSC) of the Tudor for a fraction of the cost. Unfortunately, it's hard to find these days.
I like the look of the Spirit, but I own the Ranger. Its fantastic bracelet and extreme legibility are key, but I also have a thing for the Explorer 1016 look. And I did an expedition to Greenland recently, so Tudor's hokey backstory for the watch holds some allure. For me, Ranger is a huge upgrade over my decent 40mm Smiths Everest with the lousy bracelet. I understand the "boring dial" comments, but that's not my day-to-day experience with the Ranger. IRL the numerals and indices don't register as yellow-green as they seem on camera. It's a gem.
Got the Ranger on the bracelet. Love it. For me, the pure simplicity of it makes it more attractive each wear. You can clearly see the quality of the watch, if you're looking, and yet it flies nicely under the radar. I think that 39 is the perfect size for this style of watch. If you knock it, it's fine - your watch is just gaining character. 👌
I have been following longline aviators for quite a while. Love the history and what is for me a must is the Arabic numerals . Two weeks again I encounter the blue face Spirit stopped me dead in my tracks. I am proud to say that on fathers 2023 I bought the watch and I absolutely adore it. I am happy to see that it loved by so many.
The Longines Spirit is just much more interesting than the Ranger. I feel like if the ranger had outlining on the indices or they were pure white instead of that strange green yellow color it’d look so much better! The ranger is just boring for the price and compared to the rest of the Tudor lineup.
@@rambosonix2514 your statement is a wildly ignorant😑 Tudor ranger still looks like shite in comparison. Also, a better statement is, the Ranger is for people who don’t/can’t afford an Explorer 1.
Titanium Spirit is another segment, IMO. One of the best watches I've ever seen. Cratfmanship is really really marvellous... I prefer this watch (40mm) to Submariner 🙈 in everyday life... "No-date feature" gives a very symmetrical appearance to the watch btw & the red tip of the second arm 💕😊 really lovely... Best hybrid tool watch (field/military/aviator) ever created 🙈
While I've been giving Tudor a hard look over the last year, I would choose the Longines between these two watches. I like the dial better with the numbers at each hour, the raised numbers, and the seconds above each hour. It gives a more refined look. I do like the Tudor hands better than the Longines hands. I'd rather have a watch that can dress up than dress down.
Owner of a Ranger here: I really think you need to experience the watch in person before making up your mind between the 2. It looks like a completely different when experiencing it in person. The Tudor wears much nicer on my wrist compared to the Longines, and to me the Longines is a more contemporary look while the Ranger goes for a more historical look reminiscent of the vintage explorers and even the old Ranger, so giving it raised polished indicies like many are suggesting wouldn't fit that idea very well. I also promise the green is not as ghastly in person 😂.
I am fortunate enough to have both pieces in my collection and find each one offers an amazing experience for the wearer; you would not be wrong to go either way. I do feel the Ranger actually works best on that wonderful NATO option, it really makes the whole piece pop. I had acquired it on the bracelet and then switched over to the NATO, with the bracelet going on my BB58; which I think takes it to an entirely different level and may make it Tudor's ultimate timepiece!
@@pianopourtous9345 actually, no. Teddy is right. The 37mm Spirit is the first size to not have a screw down crown. The others had it. Still, same WR though. 😉
That’s exactly what I’m planning on doing. Buy the Ranger on the steel, put that on the BB58, sell the riveted bracelet and buy the hybrid and nato strap with the £.
I was cross shopping these at my AD and was so torn I couldn't decide. But as soon as I went to unscrew the crown on the Spirit, and saw that it was push pull, the decision was easy. This will be an everyday do everything adventure watch for me, and the lack of peice of mind in the crown was a total killer for the Spirit. The Ranger is a fantastic watch that suffers from Nickback syndrome. It got cool to hate it early on, and people now trash it because "it doesn't quite look right". I don't understand it. It's a fantastic, simple, bullet proof feild watch that will go with you anywhere. I love mine and can't put it down.
I love it in 42mm, especially with the green bezel, but I'm weary because of the size (I have a 6.75in wrist). What's your wrist size and width? If you don't mind saying of course.
@@iiTyrull size is 7.5”, width about 3.5”. Perfect fit. I thought about green as well but went with the silver textured dial. Fit/finish/quality/value all fantastic!
I own the Longines Spirit 37mm in the black dial. There is a lot of fine details which really make this watch for me - and it's robust nature gives me confidence wearing it as an 'everyday' timepiece.
Would you be comfortable going out and about (rain, sweat, swimming) with it, even thougj it doesn't have a screw-down crown? I like the idea of one-and-done, like the Explorer, and the Longines seems like a good candidate but I'd hate to destroy it!
Very nice review as usual. I like the way you break down the elements that make the choice of a watch to wear. As a Longines (Zulu) owner I can highly recommend it as it is rich of nice details that locates it closer to a nice Seamaster than a Tudor. Very versatile, with the anti reflex domed sapphire and the date complication (apart from the GMT). I get somehow the feeling that with the Longines you can get more watch for the money. I feel however that among the honorable mentions you could include the Steinhart. Even if they make lots of Rolex homages, the substance is there. They make very sturdy watches and quite accurate too. They even have a model made of 904L steel and they even have a vintage GMT model where there is actually lumen on the numbers on the bezel! Keep up the good work!
Great content Teddy! Just from my perspective, I would have loved to see Longines in black instead of white to give a more direct comparison to the black dial ranger. We did see a glimpse of black and blue versions, but it wasn't enough for me!
I really like them both, but I pulled the trigger on the Ranger the week it came out. I just like the simple design and purpose built feel of a field/tool watch. It is the most comfortable watch in my collection hands down, and the bracelet is fantastic. If you want a watch that wears like a dream, I’d say go for the Ranger.
These comparisons are useful in that after you logically evaluate the various factors - you either find yourself relived the one you really wanted comes out on top, or disappointed that the one you liked comes in second. Then you follow your heart and toss that evaluation table away. 😀
The Longines is my pick. Almost got one in the Longines store in Oahu but had to get the discontinued Conquest VHP first. Next trip I will have to get a Spirit.
I have the Longines Spirt prestige in 42mm, blue dial. It came with a bracelet, a leather nato strap and a blue leather band. The bands are quick release, so it makes it simple to change them. This was a huge selling point for me.
Both. If you can afford it. Longines in blue on leather, and the Ranger on the bracelet. That blue dial on the Longines is fantastic. Tudor’s crown, the overall feel, the bracelet, the quality is just beyond other watches around that same value.
Longines spirit all the way. It's definitely gonna be my next watch (I say but who knows what other watch will tickle my fancy in the meantime) my only frustration is that I don't know which colour I want. I've been leaning towards blue but the videos of the champagne are beautiful. I wish there was a local AD with Longines so I could hopefully see them in person.
@@briandorsey6437 Hey man, why not both? 😆 Have you seen the two new dial variants of the 39mm? Mother of pearl and like a wine red. Gorgeous. I'd get a Longines Spirit AND a Formex 39 hahaha
@@DingoEstrea96 lol I can’t argue with that! I’d actually love to have both. After I wrote that I was thinking maybe I’m being overly harsh on the Spirit 😎 and yup those are the two I’m deciding on or the green.
@@DingoEstrea96 I had a lovely green I just sold! The Seiko MM200 limited edition. Very nice and comfy piece but I sold it to get the real deal SLA053. So now that’s my big watch/Black watch/ and blue dial watch lol but it’s awesome
Nice job evaluating these. I have one constructive criticism. I’m an old collector, engineer, and amateur watch mechanic. One thing no one seems to recognize about Omega, Longines, and other in the swatch group- is that these original companies all went bankrupt, shut down, and the name was resurrected years later by Nicholas Hayek in the 1980’s. The highly skilled personnel, equipment, etc. DOD not transfer. The name and in some cases, patents did. I applaud that the names live on, but it’s not the same as if the companies survived intact.
Teddy this is brilliant! These watches are out of my price range but at least now I have some knowledge of the products. You have a brilliant way of putting everything on an even level. Your channel worked its way into my channels and I have you to thank that I take my watch collection seriously. Straight up! Teddy your channel is great!
Hi Teddy. Just wanted to thank you for this video, as this finalized my research and made me decide to pull the trigger on the Longines Spirit. I was able to purchase it just yesterday and I'm still in awe at the details in the design of this piece. Also, plus one on the previous comments on the screw down crown, have this on my 40mm. Great job on your videos!
Longines Spirit in black for me 😎 my first and only luxury watch and I still love it as much as the day I bought it. Granted, I got the 40mm before it was known they were coming out with a 37. 37 would be a better fit for my wrist, but I’ve already formed an emotional attachment to my 40 😂
When I first saw the Tudor Ranger I though it was boring, however the more exposure I had to it, the more I liked it. When I wear it now I find I can't take my eyes off it. I love my Tudor Ranger. Perfectly simple. Simply perfect.
Great video and very useful as I'm looking for a watch in this 'area' . . . for me, the deciding factor is the overall look and I'm finding that I prefer the workmanlike simplicity and minimalism of the Ranger. I just wish I could find one on a bracelet here in Vancouver!
My 40mm Longines spirit L3.810.4.03.6 with the matte green dial has a screw in crown. I am confused about that, but I don't know about the 37mm version. For my money the Longines is the better watch. The only issue I have is the lugs are looong when it is on the bracelet. The bracelet quick change system is great though. In a few seconds I have the bracelet off and a green suede strap on. This has caused me to buy multiple leather strap options, and all of them work great with it. Just a beautiful and very versatile watch. Lots of polished shiny bits on the dial with applied indices. It is clearly a better watch.
I'm really liking the understated, retro style of the Ranger. Love how the glass and dial work together. It looks different and beautifully simple from all angles. The only times I've reached for the the Exp39 over the Ranger lately is when really dressing up but even then, I often put the Ranger on black leather. That is sharp. It's got a hip chicness to it. My GF's favorite of all my watches. My Tudors and the Longines Bigeye (sadly sold) both keep as good time as anything I've owned. I'd buy either with confidence.
I own the Ranger, but I'm a fan of Longines and my grey HydroConquest is an outstanding buy, if I had the choice, Id have both the ranger and the Spirit
The more I listen to you, the more I'm becoming a Longines fan. I already bought a Dolce Vita in 2022 based on your recommendation. Looking around for my 2023 acquisition.
Teddy, congratulations on the success of your channel! I've been out of the game for a couple years but started looking at watches again which led me back to your channel. Thats some serious channel growth in a couple years! I'm really liking the new Ranger. Will hopefully get to take a look at one this weekend. Take care.
Great video! Ordered the Spirit 37 champagne a while ago. Delivery scheduled for next week. Happy to see I made the right choice ;-) Love Longines in general, no brand does better value. Already a long time owner of a Legend Diver no date - absolutely incredible watch. Expecting the Spirit to be at least as good.
Having a bb36 and spirit37, the spirit is just the better watch, the case finishing is so impressive and fun to look at with the polished and brushed parts, the eta movement inside really impressed me running a +-1s/d with 72hr pr, only things I can criticize is the jangling bracelet and the lugs being slightly too long for my liking. The bb36 is definately getting its ass kicked by the spirit.
Between these two I'd take your pick and be happy. If I was looking for value at a much cheaper price for a GADA I'd pick a Seiko Alpinist/Baby Alpinist/Alpinist 1959 reissue over the Hamilton Murph, and if it had to be a Hamilton (unless you're aa Interstellar fan) I'd get a Khaki Field which is where best Hamilton value lies.
I was wearing my Tudor Ranger and on vacation in Taiwan and the Longines Spirit caught my attention yesterday in a serious way at the mall. I wasn’t sure if it’s the vacation syndrome that everything just looks beautiful and/or in the shopping mode but the blue 37mm pilot watch just look amazingly stunning on a blue leather strap.
Hi! Just getting into watches and love the channel! Would really enjoy a video of you talking about whether to go flagship of one brand Vs entry of another brand when they’re in the same price bracket as a general view if that makes sense.. not a topic I can find much info on. Many thanks!
Nice video. I chose the Tudor because its form factor and aesthetics speak to me more than the Spirit does. I like the Spirit and won’t put it down. I’m amazed how some viewers turn their personal preferences for either of the two into subjective over generalizations. I like what I like and others like what they like. Seems simple to me. I can buy what I like without tearing the other’s choice apart. It’s great to have choice and to be able to buy the one that speaks to the buyer. No regrets for my Ranger, my various Seikos. or any of the other watches I own that speak to me! Cheers!
I love my Ranger. It is super comfortable, has a great lume, and it’s not fragile. I need a durable tool watch. I should have considered the Spirit because I would love a date complication. I’m happy with my choice but I should have shopped around more.
Hi Teddy, thanks for the lovely video. First thing, Longines Spirit is a screw-in crown so for the water resistance it should be definitely a tie. So it should be 8 to 6 :). And for one of the comments i've seen, when you're stucked between a Longines and any other brand, like me nost of the people are going with Longines. Like i did for Nomos Club Campus 39 vs Longines Spirit 40, Longines Conquest vs ChrisWard, Legend Diver vs Ball Engineer etc. It somehow always catches on the last point and gets you. Hard to avoid that they are producing exceptional pieces within accessible price ranges.
Having held the Longines in his hands I think he would know, wouldn't he? It's been said by many people that.the 37mm Spirit does not have a screwable crown.
hey TEDDY, you think you can do a video where you shop for pre owned watches, and give your honest opinion on the pre owned market. maybe recommend your choices. i think the video would be a great success for us that what to look into a nice watch brand, but don't want to pay full retail for it.
Good comparison, but the criteria are not everyone's and in any case would not be equally weighted by everyone. I own and wear both the Ranger and the Titanium version of the Spirit (which is time-only, like the Ranger). Love and wear them both. They are both excellent, understated travel and GADA watches. The Ranger operates more like a starter Explorer I field watch, while the Spirit more like a starter IWC or Zenith Pilot aviation piece. The T-Fit on the Ranger alone justifies the price premium -- it is outstanding. But Longines wins on fit and finish with applied markers and a more refined dial and case. Will I keep them both? Probably not. Which one would I sell? The Tudor, but not with any pleasure -- so it isn't for sale yet.
Agree!!! I have the Dolce Vita in automatic. It's such a lovely watch. I own mostly sports/dive watches, but the Dolce Vita has gotten the most wrist time in the last 6 months.
As Tudor fanboy whos worn a Ranger for 6 months it gets my vote for the quality of the movement in terms of accuracy and durability. But that Longines is soooo gorgeous, I would say get both - the ranger for casual, the Spirit for best. The only downside is that the Spirit is hard to source, especially the 37mm version. I been looking in every ADs display since it was announced but never seen one in the flesh yet here in the UK
I recently bought Tudor Ranger. I must say that I was a skeptic until I saw it in person. I am very satisfied with it. However, I am a fan of more polished parts but I just wanted none polished good tool watch in my collection. Regarding the dial, I can understand the objection, but I can not understand how it is different in comparison to Panerai Luminor which is praised so much for a lot more money. No offense to all "Paneristi" that are watching the channel.
This is a difficult choice Teddy but ultimately I'd have to agree. Longines have certainly upped there game over the years with a lot of the brands movements all be it manufactures by ETA are exclusive to Longines from the Swatch group. The dial design is also quite incredible and oozes depth and class. I must confess to being a fan of the Tudor brand and without doubt the Ranger is a brilliant entry into the 'in house' chronometer options for the brand. I do agree that these two watches have slightly different target markets with the Ranger aiming at a easy readable more tool watch vibe with the Spirit looking at the more versatile end. The 37mm Spirit would probably take my cash out of the two but I think I would still yearn for the Ranger at some point. Right now I have the BB36 black dial (smile text as it has a 3rd party movement) that I'm more than happy with, small yet elegant but versatile as well not to mention easy servicing. I doubt I'll be looking to make another purchase of either of these options anytime soon.
Man,, this would be a hard choice as I love them both. But if I go by my gut feeling, I lean towards the Longines Spirit. To me it looks like a more versatile design which can be worn with a suit and tie or with jeans and a polo shirt. I am particularly attracted to the dial design, which has depth as well as is available in some beautiful colors. The Tudor Ranger, as you said, has a flat dial and the case and bracelet are mainly brushed, so it has a more casual look to it, more like a fleiger watch design. But had you been comparing the Longines to a Tudor Black Bay, I don't think it would be a contest for me, the Black Bay would win. BTW, while watching this video, I'm wearing my Longines Flagship watch. Very dressy, it was my first introduction to Longines and hopefully not my last!
I've owned a longline spirit 37 over the 2m. Black dial. Beautiful watch. I love it. Very comfortable to wear. Very accurate. Only +-1s/day on my wrist. Hard to find this quality in that price range. My wrist is small so 37mm fits perfectly. If I needed to pick one complaint, the antireflective glass gets fingerprints and smudge very easily. I wish they didn't put the coating on the outside... But otherwise it's a great watch!
Another consideration in this category I think is the NOMOS Club Sport Neomatik. Where would you put this watch against the other two? Happy New Year btw. Wishing you a stronger 2023!
I think so much more work and taught went into making the Spirit. From the proportions to the overall finish and value proposition it is the better watch.
You can buy a decent used Omega at 3k which won’t depreciate much. Longines has little brand recognition in the U.S. and won’t retain very much of its original purchase price.
For sure Logines has more fine details and for me a better size. If I have understood what Tudor does lately, it's almost certain that the Ranger will be released with a 37mm casing at some point
Recommendations and corrections: Each category should be given a 1-10 point value. A full point for a screw down crown greatly over estimates it’s value to the end product and so it should’ve been a 5-6 split Or you could’ve chosen to give the Spirit 3 points and the (Tutor) 4 points since the absolute difference is small and the relative difference in the overall value to the finished product is likewise small. Conversely the value of a watches bracelet is huge with respect to the end product Spirit 5 points average in class Ranger 10 best in class. Here the points won will be greater where it matters. Correction: The 37 and 40 mm Spirits have 19 mm strap size you did not list the size for the 37 and incorrectly listed the 40 at 20 mm. Not only does the spirit have a far inferior bracelet it has fewer strap options due to the 19 mm size. I know the spirit comes in different sizes but with the Spirit’s unnecessarily long lug to lug length, the limitations of choices with a 19 mm strap size, and the lack of a T-Fit type adjustment the wearability of the Spirit…is not a 1-0 win… in fact I would’ve given the wearability win to the Ranger.
I’ll offer that if you want to do these comparisons, then rather simply applying binary check marks, some sort of factor weighting would improve the quality of the recommendation (this is done in business and government regularly: essentials and desirables along with weight factor for desirables). Giving a check to an established watch when the other watch had its first model release only a few months ago is dubious as well. Better is the discussion following, where the potential buyers might choose one over the other. It would also be worth discussing your accuracy findings with the two watches as you do during your reviews, only to compare to the manufacturers’ stated goals. We know for example that Tudor’s expectations for their watches is far better than the COSC standard (apologies I don’t know Longines). It’s an interesting comparison because I would not intuitively cross shop these two brands; I perhaps wrongfully place TAG, Tissot and Longines together. Thank you for another great review Teddy.
I’ve been wearing the Ranger on a rubber strap for about 4 months. Super comfortable it flies under the radar. The avocado color grows on you. I didn’t appreciate it when I first got it, but I enjoy looking at the simple dial now. It’s a completely understated watch, and that’s the beauty of the design.
i agree. It works well with a lot of different strap options. The green isn’t as noticeable in person, but you can pull it out if you switch up the band. I keep it on the bracelet most of the time though. It’s got a quality look while being no nonsense.
I have a Ranger with metal strap. Looks simple and non arrogant.
I have more expensive, more "interesting" looking watches... but the Ranger, is the watch I wear more than anything else. It's simple some would say boring... but it's understated, highly legible, doesn't need to be babied and pretty much works with any strap you throw on it. I've taken it up mountains for hiking and skiing, camping, used it whilst skateboarding, swimming and even just for work in the office... The "fauxtina" lume that everyone gets offended by is really nice at night time as it glows rather than illuminates and the best part is that it lasts all night. This is one of those watches that looks a bit meh in the photos but once you've lived with it, it makes sense why Tudor did it.
Agree to all but looks - to me it's stunning in its simplicity.
Longines has soooo much potential as a brand. After your video interviewing a longines representative I really believe the company is really dialing in its iconic watches and going to become a more common brand to see people wearing
I'm helping you in hoping so.
I think it will all depend on the way Swatch positions Longines, they should position it higher imo
Potential? They have history.
Complete agree they have history…especially in aviation. Lindburgh, Hughes, Earhart. Swatch has the marketing power to ride the moon landings with Omega, why can’t they do something similar with Longines?
Longines should be on the same playing field as Rolex…seriously. The heritage is undoubtedly there. For some reason, Swatch is keeping the brand down, relatively speaking.
I just got the Longines Spirit, amongst these watches, the shiny silver stars and the winged hour glass logo on the dial, just attractive to gaze at! Eye candy!
I have worn the Ranger 2022 every day for months. Work, gym, hiking in the smokies, and out and about. Its bracelet is scuffed, scratched and beat. Some nicks on the case itself. Its legible, simple, and no one knows its a Tudor. Perfect everyday watch for me.
No one cares ‘cause it’s ugly and boring.
I will never understand why Longines are not so popular in the USA! Excellent watches with history.
Swatch with there general lack of marketing more than likely. I defintly grew up seeing the longines watches in magazines along with rolex, tag heuer breitling, tissot but maybe since the days of the internet I see alot less manufacture direct maketing
@@boomdaus they're definitely a popular brand outside of the USA. I grew up in another country and Longines we're always considered as a luxury brand.
Swatch about 20 years ago prioritized Asia quite a bit which certainly was not a dumb decision by any means, but it has left some of their brands to be overlooked in the states. Longines is one of them though that has a significant trajectory as they continue to gain the appreciation they rightfully deserve.
I think the brand has always been respected but they've lacked relevant pieces in the catalogue. That seems to be changing and the future looks bright.
@@TeddyBaldassarre Interesting point. I wasn’t aware Swatch focused on Asia in the past. While it makes a lot of sense to me at the Swatch price point 20 years ago. It shows the challenges large groups intrinsically have with brand differentiation. AKA Their ability to walk and chew gum. 😊
The little details of the Longines make it for me - the way the diamond on the seconds hand lines up with the diamond on the dial, the applied elements, the case finishing, etc. just make it feel more premium, without being flashy, compared to the Tudor.
Very classy
I bought a Ranger on Teddy's video recommendation, and it is by far my favorite watch. I love the understatement. It isn't a watch that random people look at and wonder If I spent 3 grand on it. They just see a watch. This is a watch for ME. I know what its value is, and I appreciate seeing it on wrist. And when someone that knows comments, it jsut makes it cool that another watch aficionado sees it. But for me, this is the perfect watch.
I bought mine because of Teddy’s video. Love the clean look of it I’ve got busy dial watches and this is a pleasant change.
Glad to see the 38mm Murph shoutout. Just picked one up from you guys and couldn't be happier.
Appreciate the support, my friend!
I bought a Longines Spirit 40mm before Christmas. It's an excellent watch and incredible value. I bought mine (black dial on Leather) in a UK sale from an AD - at a £600 discount. I hadn't planned on buying one that day, but when I saw the price, I ordered one.
I'm a big guy and my usual sweet spot is 41-42 - but this 40 fits well and looks good. It's keeping excellent time and the black dial helps "subdue" the black date window - almost to the point of invisibility. The 21mm lug width may worry some but I've had a couple of straps made by a Vietnamese guy I found on Etsy - and most 22mm leather straps will fit a 21mm watch.
To sum up, I think it's an excellent watch that stands comparison with other brands whose watches are skating by on the coat tails of "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Great content, Teddy and team. I recently compared two micro-independent daily watches, Formex Essence 39 and Monta Noble. I definitely pull the trigger on the Formex because of import taxes to EU but I couldn't find any other topic to balance my choice from one way or the other. Hope this example helps you to plan more content or to confirm you this content is absolutely convenient. Great thanks for your work.
First off, as always, great production and insight. That same insight helped me pick my first two watches, the Orient Kamasu and Brew Metric, which I couldn’t be happier with. As for these two featured pieces, I really like the Longines. In its price point, I think it dresses up better than any other aviation watch. Also, I give a lot of respect to Longines for recognizing what Watch enthusiasts want in sizing but also not swinging the pendulum too far.
Since you mentioned Orient, the prices of these pieces remind me of the TREMENDOUS value of the Orient Star Sports Outdoor (RK-AU0204L). For those who don't need a prestigious brand name, the Orient Star is VERY similar in look and specs (not COSC) of the Tudor for a fraction of the cost. Unfortunately, it's hard to find these days.
I like the look of the Spirit, but I own the Ranger. Its fantastic bracelet and extreme legibility are key, but I also have a thing for the Explorer 1016 look. And I did an expedition to Greenland recently, so Tudor's hokey backstory for the watch holds some allure. For me, Ranger is a huge upgrade over my decent 40mm Smiths Everest with the lousy bracelet. I understand the "boring dial" comments, but that's not my day-to-day experience with the Ranger. IRL the numerals and indices don't register as yellow-green as they seem on camera. It's a gem.
Got the Ranger on the bracelet. Love it. For me, the pure simplicity of it makes it more attractive each wear. You can clearly see the quality of the watch, if you're looking, and yet it flies nicely under the radar. I think that 39 is the perfect size for this style of watch. If you knock it, it's fine - your watch is just gaining character. 👌
I have been following longline aviators for quite a while. Love the history and what is for me a must is the Arabic numerals . Two weeks again I encounter the blue face Spirit stopped me dead in my tracks. I am proud to say that on fathers 2023 I bought the watch and I absolutely adore it. I am happy to see that it loved by so many.
The Longines Spirit is just much more interesting than the Ranger. I feel like if the ranger had outlining on the indices or they were pure white instead of that strange green yellow color it’d look so much better! The ranger is just boring for the price and compared to the rest of the Tudor lineup.
I agree. That yellow looks like an unflushed bar toilet
The Longines Spirit is bought by people who cannot afford a Tudor Ranger.
@@rambosonix2514 your statement is a wildly ignorant😑 Tudor ranger still looks like shite in comparison. Also, a better statement is, the Ranger is for people who don’t/can’t afford an Explorer 1.
@@rambosonix2514 Short sighted comment. I can afford either but chose the Spirit….
@@rambosonix2514 lol. What a moronic comment
Personally I believe the choice is harder between the Black Bay 36 and the Longines as you mentioned. Great video!
As an owner of the BB36, it’s absolutely incredible.
I think Spirit Titanium 40 would've been a fairer comparison - it's more expensive, has no date, and is kinda similar in color theme.
Titanium Spirit is another segment, IMO. One of the best watches I've ever seen. Cratfmanship is really really marvellous... I prefer this watch (40mm) to Submariner 🙈 in everyday life... "No-date feature" gives a very symmetrical appearance to the watch btw & the red tip of the second arm 💕😊 really lovely... Best hybrid tool watch (field/military/aviator) ever created 🙈
While I've been giving Tudor a hard look over the last year, I would choose the Longines between these two watches. I like the dial better with the numbers at each hour, the raised numbers, and the seconds above each hour. It gives a more refined look. I do like the Tudor hands better than the Longines hands. I'd rather have a watch that can dress up than dress down.
Owner of a Ranger here: I really think you need to experience the watch in person before making up your mind between the 2. It looks like a completely different when experiencing it in person. The Tudor wears much nicer on my wrist compared to the Longines, and to me the Longines is a more contemporary look while the Ranger goes for a more historical look reminiscent of the vintage explorers and even the old Ranger, so giving it raised polished indicies like many are suggesting wouldn't fit that idea very well. I also promise the green is not as ghastly in person 😂.
Longines all day every day in this case.
I am fortunate enough to have both pieces in my collection and find each one offers an amazing experience for the wearer; you would not be wrong to go either way. I do feel the Ranger actually works best on that wonderful NATO option, it really makes the whole piece pop. I had acquired it on the bracelet and then switched over to the NATO, with the bracelet going on my BB58; which I think takes it to an entirely different level and may make it Tudor's ultimate timepiece!
Thank you for sharing your insight as an owner. It greatly assists in the conversation here.
Hi, do you confirm that the Longines has also a screw down crown ? I guess there is a small mistake in the video.
@@pianopourtous9345 actually, no. Teddy is right. The 37mm Spirit is the first size to not have a screw down crown. The others had it. Still, same WR though. 😉
That’s exactly what I’m planning on doing. Buy the Ranger on the steel, put that on the BB58, sell the riveted bracelet and buy the hybrid and nato strap with the £.
I agree the nato makes it feel much more tool like
I have been contemplating both watches for around 6 months, I decided to go the Longines for the reasons you outlined.
I was cross shopping these at my AD and was so torn I couldn't decide. But as soon as I went to unscrew the crown on the Spirit, and saw that it was push pull, the decision was easy. This will be an everyday do everything adventure watch for me, and the lack of peice of mind in the crown was a total killer for the Spirit. The Ranger is a fantastic watch that suffers from Nickback syndrome. It got cool to hate it early on, and people now trash it because "it doesn't quite look right". I don't understand it. It's a fantastic, simple, bullet proof feild watch that will go with you anywhere. I love mine and can't put it down.
I picked up the 42mm Spirit about a month ago. Absolutely love it!!!
I love it in 42mm, especially with the green bezel, but I'm weary because of the size (I have a 6.75in wrist). What's your wrist size and width? If you don't mind saying of course.
@@iiTyrull size is 7.5”, width about 3.5”. Perfect fit. I thought about green as well but went with the silver textured dial. Fit/finish/quality/value all fantastic!
I own the Longines Spirit 37mm in the black dial. There is a lot of fine details which really make this watch for me - and it's robust nature gives me confidence wearing it as an 'everyday' timepiece.
Would you be comfortable going out and about (rain, sweat, swimming) with it, even thougj it doesn't have a screw-down crown? I like the idea of one-and-done, like the Explorer, and the Longines seems like a good candidate but I'd hate to destroy it!
Very nice review as usual. I like the way you break down the elements that make the choice of a watch to wear. As a Longines (Zulu) owner I can highly recommend it as it is rich of nice details that locates it closer to a nice Seamaster than a Tudor. Very versatile, with the anti reflex domed sapphire and the date complication (apart from the GMT). I get somehow the feeling that with the Longines you can get more watch for the money.
I feel however that among the honorable mentions you could include the Steinhart. Even if they make lots of Rolex homages, the substance is there. They make very sturdy watches and quite accurate too. They even have a model made of 904L steel and they even have a vintage GMT model where there is actually lumen on the numbers on the bezel!
Keep up the good work!
My vote for Ranger: history, very comfortable bracelet (for lovers), rugged universal rolex' explorer's' style. And yeah, Ranger is in my wishlist ;)
Great content Teddy! Just from my perspective, I would have loved to see Longines in black instead of white to give a more direct comparison to the black dial ranger. We did see a glimpse of black and blue versions, but it wasn't enough for me!
I really like them both, but I pulled the trigger on the Ranger the week it came out. I just like the simple design and purpose built feel of a field/tool watch. It is the most comfortable watch in my collection hands down, and the bracelet is fantastic. If you want a watch that wears like a dream, I’d say go for the Ranger.
cool ..!
These comparisons are useful in that after you logically evaluate the various factors - you either find yourself relived the one you really wanted comes out on top, or disappointed that the one you liked comes in second. Then you follow your heart and toss that evaluation table away. 😀
The Longines is my pick. Almost got one in the Longines store in Oahu but had to get the discontinued Conquest VHP first. Next trip I will have to get a Spirit.
I have the Longines Spirt prestige in 42mm, blue dial. It came with a bracelet, a leather nato strap and a blue leather band. The bands are quick release, so it makes it simple to change them. This was a huge selling point for me.
I have the the exact same Longines Spirit.
It's been almost 3 months now and I can't start my day without putting it on.
I do own exactly that Spirit - very good watch. When seeing the Ranger I am thinking of the Explorer as aim for a better watch…
Get going 🚀
Just picked up the Tudor. Excellent watch. Accurate and comfortable.
Both. If you can afford it.
Longines in blue on leather, and the Ranger on the bracelet. That blue dial on the Longines is fantastic.
Tudor’s crown, the overall feel, the bracelet, the quality is just beyond other watches around that same value.
Or instead of both, an Omega Aqua Terra?
I’d argue the quality feels more on the Longines.
Longines spirit all the way. It's definitely gonna be my next watch (I say but who knows what other watch will tickle my fancy in the meantime) my only frustration is that I don't know which colour I want. I've been leaning towards blue but the videos of the champagne are beautiful. I wish there was a local AD with Longines so I could hopefully see them in person.
I’d take a Formex essence 39 over a Longines Spirit…. I like the Spirit but it’s just not as Fire 🔥 as those new Formexs and costs significantly more…
@@briandorsey6437 Hey man, why not both? 😆 Have you seen the two new dial variants of the 39mm? Mother of pearl and like a wine red. Gorgeous. I'd get a Longines Spirit AND a Formex 39 hahaha
@@DingoEstrea96 lol I can’t argue with that! I’d actually love to have both. After I wrote that I was thinking maybe I’m being overly harsh on the Spirit 😎 and yup those are the two I’m deciding on or the green.
@@briandorsey6437 If I didn't already have a red dial watch, I'd get the Red Formex and the Blue Longines. Then to search for a nice green 😊
@@DingoEstrea96 I had a lovely green I just sold! The Seiko MM200 limited edition. Very nice and comfy piece but I sold it to get the real deal SLA053. So now that’s my big watch/Black watch/ and blue dial watch lol but it’s awesome
Nice job evaluating these. I have one constructive criticism. I’m an old collector, engineer, and amateur watch mechanic. One thing no one seems to recognize about Omega, Longines, and other in the swatch group- is that these original companies all went bankrupt, shut down, and the name was resurrected years later by Nicholas Hayek in the 1980’s. The highly skilled personnel, equipment, etc. DOD not transfer. The name and in some cases, patents did. I applaud that the names live on, but it’s not the same as if the companies survived intact.
I wasn't aware of this. Need to look into it. Thanks.
Teddy this is brilliant! These watches are out of my price range but at least now I have some knowledge of the products. You have a brilliant way of putting everything on an even level. Your channel worked its way into my channels and I have you to thank that I take my watch collection seriously. Straight up! Teddy your channel is great!
Hi Teddy. Just wanted to thank you for this video, as this finalized my research and made me decide to pull the trigger on the Longines Spirit. I was able to purchase it just yesterday and I'm still in awe at the details in the design of this piece. Also, plus one on the previous comments on the screw down crown, have this on my 40mm. Great job on your videos!
Longines Spirit in black for me 😎 my first and only luxury watch and I still love it as much as the day I bought it. Granted, I got the 40mm before it was known they were coming out with a 37. 37 would be a better fit for my wrist, but I’ve already formed an emotional attachment to my 40 😂
also for me titanium 40mm spirit
When I first saw the Tudor Ranger I though it was boring, however the more exposure I had to it, the more I liked it. When I wear it now I find I can't take my eyes off it. I love my Tudor Ranger. Perfectly simple. Simply perfect.
Great video and very useful as I'm looking for a watch in this 'area' . . . for me, the deciding factor is the overall look and I'm finding that I prefer the workmanlike simplicity and minimalism of the Ranger. I just wish I could find one on a bracelet here in Vancouver!
If the Ranger had raised markers and a smaller 36-37 mm case i would buy! The spirit is great, but my next watch is the Legend Diver
Spirit is my everyday watch and always seems to match the situation.
My 40mm Longines spirit L3.810.4.03.6 with the matte green dial has a screw in crown. I am confused about that, but I don't know about the 37mm version. For my money the Longines is the better watch. The only issue I have is the lugs are looong when it is on the bracelet. The bracelet quick change system is great though. In a few seconds I have the bracelet off and a green suede strap on. This has caused me to buy multiple leather strap options, and all of them work great with it. Just a beautiful and very versatile watch. Lots of polished shiny bits on the dial with applied indices. It is clearly a better watch.
Awesome video teddy! Would love to see a Spirit 37 vs BB36 video
Let's wait and see what happens with the BB36 in the coming year. I have a feeling we might see an MT caliber version in traditional stainless steel.
I'm really liking the understated, retro style of the Ranger. Love how the glass and dial work together. It looks different and beautifully simple from all angles. The only times I've reached for the the Exp39 over the Ranger lately is when really dressing up but even then, I often put the Ranger on black leather. That is sharp. It's got a hip chicness to it. My GF's favorite of all my watches. My Tudors and the Longines Bigeye (sadly sold) both keep as good time as anything I've owned. I'd buy either with confidence.
I own the Ranger, but I'm a fan of Longines and my grey HydroConquest is an outstanding buy, if I had the choice, Id have both the ranger and the Spirit
The more I listen to you, the more I'm becoming a Longines fan. I already bought a Dolce Vita in 2022 based on your recommendation. Looking around for my 2023 acquisition.
I wasn't a fan of the Ranger until I saw it and tried it on in person. It's definitely worth a look if you like a tool watch.
Teddy, congratulations on the success of your channel! I've been out of the game for a couple years but started looking at watches again which led me back to your channel. Thats some serious channel growth in a couple years! I'm really liking the new Ranger. Will hopefully get to take a look at one this weekend. Take care.
@___TeddyBaldassarre
Seems legit...
I will go for Longines Spirit no question. The dial design is elegant and there are simply so many varieties to choose from.
Great video!
Ordered the Spirit 37 champagne a while ago. Delivery scheduled for next week. Happy to see I made the right choice ;-)
Love Longines in general, no brand does better value. Already a long time owner of a Legend Diver no date - absolutely incredible watch. Expecting the Spirit to be at least as good.
Having a bb36 and spirit37, the spirit is just the better watch, the case finishing is so impressive and fun to look at with the polished and brushed parts, the eta movement inside really impressed me running a +-1s/d with 72hr pr, only things I can criticize is the jangling bracelet and the lugs being slightly too long for my liking.
The bb36 is definately getting its ass kicked by the spirit.
Teddy start the new year off right with the watch collector's anthem.
Between these two I'd take your pick and be happy. If I was looking for value at a much cheaper price for a GADA I'd pick a Seiko Alpinist/Baby Alpinist/Alpinist 1959 reissue over the Hamilton Murph, and if it had to be a Hamilton (unless you're aa Interstellar fan) I'd get a Khaki Field which is where best Hamilton value lies.
I was wearing my Tudor Ranger and on vacation in Taiwan and the Longines Spirit caught my attention yesterday in a serious way at the mall. I wasn’t sure if it’s the vacation syndrome that everything just looks beautiful and/or in the shopping mode but the blue 37mm pilot watch just look amazingly stunning on a blue leather strap.
Great watches. Both of them look robust. I like the way the second hands move in both watches.
@3:42 are the crowns that far out normally on the Longines? Or are the screw downs not closed?
Hi! Just getting into watches and love the channel! Would really enjoy a video of you talking about whether to go flagship of one brand Vs entry of another brand when they’re in the same price bracket as a general view if that makes sense.. not a topic I can find much info on. Many thanks!
the Longines Spirit is it. Really a nice versatile allrounder, one of the best Longines models
Perfect timing with this as I just bought a Ranger today
I just purchased my Spirit in the champagne dial! First timepiece for me, and i was really influenced by you! Thank you Teddy!!
The Ranger is nice, and I have a Tudor BB Chrono and love it, but between these two watches, I'd go with the Longines all day long.
I’ve tried on the Ranger and really liked it, but I agree some raised indices on dial would be nice
Nice video. I chose the Tudor because its form factor and aesthetics speak to me more than the Spirit does. I like the Spirit and won’t put it down.
I’m amazed how some viewers turn their personal preferences for either of the two into subjective over generalizations. I like what I like and others like what they like. Seems simple to me. I can buy what I like without tearing the other’s choice apart. It’s great to have choice and to be able to buy the one that speaks to the buyer. No regrets for my Ranger, my various Seikos. or any of the other watches I own that speak to me! Cheers!
Longines spirit everyday even without giving any points it is just a nicer looking watch
I own the black 40 Longines. It does have a screw down crown and lume is excellent. More refined and interesting dial too.
Yes... You're right. I just checked mine !
Longines might be my favorite watch brand.
The Longines Lindbergh is my next purchase i think.
Love this style of content Teddy
Thank you for the videos Teddy!
Nice video…as always. I wish you would reveal which watch you are wearing in each video…I have the same size smaller wrist as you.
I love my Ranger. It is super comfortable, has a great lume, and it’s not fragile. I need a durable tool watch. I should have considered the Spirit because I would love a date complication. I’m happy with my choice but I should have shopped around more.
Hi Teddy, thanks for the lovely video. First thing, Longines Spirit is a screw-in crown so for the water resistance it should be definitely a tie. So it should be 8 to 6 :). And for one of the comments i've seen, when you're stucked between a Longines and any other brand, like me nost of the people are going with Longines. Like i did for Nomos Club Campus 39 vs Longines Spirit 40, Longines Conquest vs ChrisWard, Legend Diver vs Ball Engineer etc. It somehow always catches on the last point and gets you. Hard to avoid that they are producing exceptional pieces within accessible price ranges.
Having held the Longines in his hands I think he would know, wouldn't he? It's been said by many people that.the 37mm Spirit does not have a screwable crown.
@@jipke wow really? didnt know that😐
hey TEDDY, you think you can do a video where you shop for pre owned watches, and give your honest opinion on the pre owned market. maybe recommend your choices. i think the video would be a great success for us that what to look into a nice watch brand, but don't want to pay full retail for it.
Good comparison, but the criteria are not everyone's and in any case would not be equally weighted by everyone. I own and wear both the Ranger and the Titanium version of the Spirit (which is time-only, like the Ranger). Love and wear them both. They are both excellent, understated travel and GADA watches. The Ranger operates more like a starter Explorer I field watch, while the Spirit more like a starter IWC or Zenith Pilot aviation piece. The T-Fit on the Ranger alone justifies the price premium -- it is outstanding. But Longines wins on fit and finish with applied markers and a more refined dial and case. Will I keep them both? Probably not. Which one would I sell? The Tudor, but not with any pleasure -- so it isn't for sale yet.
I own neither but your thought process and comparisons match mine (by looking at them only) exactly.
I really love the Dolce Vita from Longines. Problem is, most of them Quartz. I already have a Quartz in the collection.
Agree!!! I have the Dolce Vita in automatic. It's such a lovely watch. I own mostly sports/dive watches, but the Dolce Vita has gotten the most wrist time in the last 6 months.
As Tudor fanboy whos worn a Ranger for 6 months it gets my vote for the quality of the movement in terms of accuracy and durability. But that Longines is soooo gorgeous, I would say get both - the ranger for casual, the Spirit for best. The only downside is that the Spirit is hard to source, especially the 37mm version. I been looking in every ADs display since it was announced but never seen one in the flesh yet here in the UK
I recently bought Tudor Ranger. I must say that I was a skeptic until I saw it in person. I am very satisfied with it. However, I am a fan of more polished parts but I just wanted none polished good tool watch in my collection. Regarding the dial, I can understand the objection, but I can not understand how it is different in comparison to Panerai Luminor which is praised so much for a lot more money. No offense to all "Paneristi" that are watching the channel.
This is a difficult choice Teddy but ultimately I'd have to agree. Longines have certainly upped there game over the years with a lot of the brands movements all be it manufactures by ETA are exclusive to Longines from the Swatch group. The dial design is also quite incredible and oozes depth and class. I must confess to being a fan of the Tudor brand and without doubt the Ranger is a brilliant entry into the 'in house' chronometer options for the brand. I do agree that these two watches have slightly different target markets with the Ranger aiming at a easy readable more tool watch vibe with the Spirit looking at the more versatile end. The 37mm Spirit would probably take my cash out of the two but I think I would still yearn for the Ranger at some point. Right now I have the BB36 black dial (smile text as it has a 3rd party movement) that I'm more than happy with, small yet elegant but versatile as well not to mention easy servicing. I doubt I'll be looking to make another purchase of either of these options anytime soon.
Man,, this would be a hard choice as I love them both. But if I go by my gut feeling, I lean towards the Longines Spirit. To me it looks like a more versatile design which can be worn with a suit and tie or with jeans and a polo shirt. I am particularly attracted to the dial design, which has depth as well as is available in some beautiful colors. The Tudor Ranger, as you said, has a flat dial and the case and bracelet are mainly brushed, so it has a more casual look to it, more like a fleiger watch design. But had you been comparing the Longines to a Tudor Black Bay, I don't think it would be a contest for me, the Black Bay would win. BTW, while watching this video, I'm wearing my Longines Flagship watch. Very dressy, it was my first introduction to Longines and hopefully not my last!
Tough call! Love the video Teddy.
balance bridge is all I need to sway me towards a watch. I do like both but the Ranger is superior as a long-term/permanent resident in a collection.
I've owned a longline spirit 37 over the 2m. Black dial. Beautiful watch. I love it. Very comfortable to wear. Very accurate. Only +-1s/day on my wrist. Hard to find this quality in that price range. My wrist is small so 37mm fits perfectly. If I needed to pick one complaint, the antireflective glass gets fingerprints and smudge very easily. I wish they didn't put the coating on the outside... But otherwise it's a great watch!
Another consideration in this category I think is the NOMOS Club Sport Neomatik. Where would you put this watch against the other two? Happy New Year btw. Wishing you a stronger 2023!
How weird, I was looking at both of those earlier today but opted for the Black Bay 58. A great choice me thinks.
I think so much more work and taught went into making the Spirit. From the proportions to the overall finish and value proposition it is the better watch.
Great breakdown Teddy once again very analytical.
My Longines Spirit 41 has a screw down crown and is one of the reasons I choose it. It has been an awesome performer...
You can buy a decent used Omega at 3k which won’t depreciate much.
Longines has little brand recognition in the U.S. and won’t retain very much of its original purchase price.
only teddy know what are the exact watches people wanna see put together in a video like this
For me it’s the ranger. Thanks for the video, Teddy!
Another stepping stone would be the Longines Conquest as well. Great watch
Can we add the NOMOS Club Sport Neomatik into this conversation? Out of the three, which one will be best for each scenario?
For sure Logines has more fine details and for me a better size. If I have understood what Tudor does lately, it's almost certain that the Ranger will be released with a 37mm casing at some point
Longines Spirit instant win for me. Ranger would be better if the dial was better
Recommendations and corrections: Each category should be given a 1-10 point value. A full point for a screw down crown greatly over estimates it’s value to the end product and so it should’ve been a 5-6 split Or you could’ve chosen to give the Spirit 3 points and the (Tutor) 4 points since the absolute difference is small and the relative difference in the overall value to the finished product is likewise small.
Conversely the value of a watches bracelet is huge with respect to the end product Spirit 5 points average in class Ranger 10 best in class. Here the points won will be greater where it matters.
Correction: The 37 and 40 mm Spirits have 19 mm strap size you did not list the size for the 37 and incorrectly listed the 40 at 20 mm. Not only does the spirit have a far inferior bracelet it has fewer strap options due to the 19 mm size.
I know the spirit comes in different sizes but with the Spirit’s unnecessarily long lug to lug length, the limitations of choices with a 19 mm strap size, and the lack of a T-Fit type adjustment the wearability of the Spirit…is not a 1-0 win… in fact I would’ve given the wearability win to the Ranger.
I’ll offer that if you want to do these comparisons, then rather simply applying binary check marks, some sort of factor weighting would improve the quality of the recommendation (this is done in business and government regularly: essentials and desirables along with weight factor for desirables). Giving a check to an established watch when the other watch had its first model release only a few months ago is dubious as well. Better is the discussion following, where the potential buyers might choose one over the other. It would also be worth discussing your accuracy findings with the two watches as you do during your reviews, only to compare to the manufacturers’ stated goals. We know for example that Tudor’s expectations for their watches is far better than the COSC standard (apologies I don’t know Longines). It’s an interesting comparison because I would not intuitively cross shop these two brands; I perhaps wrongfully place TAG, Tissot and Longines together. Thank you for another great review Teddy.
Can a longines 37mm bracelet be bought separate? Kind of regretting not buying the bracelet and not having any luck finding one for sale.
you might call the swatch group and see if you can order one.