161. P. Chesnokov: Do not reject me in the time of old age, Op.40,Nr5. V. Miller, basso profundo.
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- 161. П. Чесноков. Не отвержи мене во время старости, Ор. 40, №5. Юбилейный концерт В. Миллера. 19.02.2014. Певческая Капелла С.-Петербурга. Дирижер - Владислав Чернушенко.
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Great performance!
One does not need to know Russian to know what beautiful music is.
Don't reject me when I become old
Don't reject me when I become old, when my fortress starts falling, don't leave me. Don't reject me, don't leave me.
When enemies and my guardian angel together solve, they will tell: God left it, marry him and give a name, after all it has no disposal. My god, don't abandon me, hear my prayers about the help. Who slandered my soul, he will have shame and he will be gone, they will have sense of shame when they try to do me the harm. I always hope, I hope for you and I hope for your praise. Don't reject me, don't leave me.
( added by lumalfo)
But it helps!!!
This is breathtaking mr. Miller, thank you for uploading. You have a beautiful gift.
Thank you for these kind words. With best wishes, Vladimir Miller.
Diese tiefen Bässe sind eine der wunderbaren und wohltuenden Besonderheiten der russischen Musik.
Herzlichen Dank an Vladimir Miller und an alle Komponisten und weiteren Künstler!
Viele Grüße aus Deutschland!
Vielen Dank für Ihre Wertschätzung und freundlichen Worte! Alles Gute. Vladimir Miller.
Wow, Mr. Miller you and your voice are fantastic! Bravo
I've always had a profound love of the Russian sacred music ever since singing a piece by Chesnokov at the Conservatory of music UMKC. Miller is fantastic!!!!!!!
Absolutely incredible, Sir. 💕
Deep bass as a singing voice range is greatly underutilized in music in general. It would deserve much more popularity.
Because only a number are gifted of one. And many are also not in music world.
It's something that we can only hope that God will give us..
My voice is not nearly as deep as Vladimir Miller's; however, out of 16 men in a community chorus I was the only man able to sing C#2 (2 ledger lines below the bass staff). So deep voices are uncommon in the West.
@@johnhudelson2652 I'm a Bass-Baritone and in a Choir I'm in the Bass section is just low Baritones and they all think I'm a true Bass which goes to show that choir Bass is more of a part and not a voice
@@antemahoney4376 A typical bass part in a choir setting does not go below F2 (touching the bottom of the bass staff) since deep basses are so uncommon.
Contemporary music is so groove driven and -dependent, you have to keep melodic elements out of the bottom octaves. Even someone the size of Miller, gets completely drowned out by big drums and synth basses.
Similarly, to sing along with a supertight groove set by a wall of electronic drums, the singers' attacks have to be quick and punchy. While even the biggest human voices need more buildup to properly resonate such low notes.
And: You need a quiet, ideally an acoustically sound, room to get the most out of such low notes being sung. The background noise and rumble of traffic, compressors, boomboxes and other modern inventions, easily drown them out. People's hearing reflexively tend to focus on the higher pitches in a mix. Higher pitched sounds tend to overshadow lower pitched ones. Ergo: A noisy world is a tenor's world.
And then: contemporary melodic music is mostly singing (or less politely whining...) about being a rather androgynous emo teenager in love..... Miller doesn't really sound very convincing in that role....
Yes, absolutely. This is Alexander Ort, who sings in the choir of the Kapella of St. Petersburg.
@@alexanderabdalla5517 At the age of 19, I sang at the bottom not lower than B-flat. With age, the voice becomes much deeper. I wish you every success!
The performers started the piece in C# minor, a half-step above the original. The pitch migrated about a quarter-tone down, so that at the end Miller was singing C and one half rather than C#. Miller took the higher options at the end. He does this piece very well, and the chorus and conductor here are superb.
So tief und trotzdem mit Melodie. Beeindruckend.
Vibrating the lower B note at 2:10 was amazing!
You can compare and be wondered by this note by Vladimir Pasyukov th-cam.com/video/5drXD_6UVus/w-d-xo.html
This helps me study
Wladimir Miller, aplausos desde Argentina. Chapeaux
Мощно, величественно, торжественно и вдохновенно! Спасибо!
Браво!!!Спасибо вам за ваш голос.
This is simply great . I can only manage a Bb on a cold day, and not that loud. Continue making life here on earth worthwhile Sir !
+bennaars ongidi A cold day? That's intersting; my low notes start to go away when the tempertaure goes down.
magnificent.
Замечательно! Я люблю творчество Чеснокова. Жаль, что отсутствует последняя секунда :-(
Bravissimo! 🎉❤
Thank you heartily!
Day-um ... great timbre.
What a powerful!!
Не отвержи мене во время старости,
Внегда оскудевати крепости моей,
Не остави мене.
Не отвержи, не остави.
Яко реша врази мои мне
И стерегущии душу мою совещаша
В купе глаголюще:
Бог оставил есть его,
Бог оставил есть его,
Пожените и имите его,
Яко несть избавляяй.
Боже мой,
Не удалися от мене,
В помощь мою вонми.
Да постыдятся и исчезнут,
Оклеветающии душу мою,
Да облекутся в студ да облеклутся в срам,
Ишущии злая мне.
Аз же всегда возуповаю,
Возуповаю на Тя,
И приложу на всяку похвалу Твою.
Спасибо
¡¡¡¡¡..EXTRAORDINARIO MAESTRO....BRAVO....!!!!
Don't reject me when I become old
Don't reject me when I become old, when my fortress starts falling, don't leave me. Don't reject me, don't leave me.
When enemies and my guardian angel together solve, they will tell: God left it, marry him and give a name, after all it has no disposal. My god, don't abandon me, hear my prayers about the help. Who slandered my soul, he will have shame and he will be gone, they will have sense of shame when they try to do me the harm. I always hope, I hope for you and I hope for your praise. Don't reject me, don't leave me.
( added by lumalfo)
Hey thank you so much for the lyrics 🙏🏻. Do you think you could perhaps get the lyrics for Verily he is worthy. And let me know if you can please. Thank you
❤ “Never!” ❤
Thank you!! I was hoping someone would let me know in English what the words of this “profound” song are 😊
Шикарно!!! Спасибо!!!
Горжусь вами, Владимир, ещё 10 лет назад ориентировался на вас!
И ты тут Андрюх) Намути где-то хор и тоже спой).
Сможешь эту песни спеть?
@@lotar-zm8zh, смогу, но буду ли...
@@AndreSerba католик?
@@lotar-zm8zh, в каком то смысле
Охренеть! Наш Русский! 👍
Он немец
@@lotar-zm8zh Он русский, с немецкой фамилией. В роду у него есть как немцы, так и русские.
BRAWO. GENIALNIE. PIĘKNY GŁOS. POZDRAWIAMY Z KRAKOWA. POLSKA.
All around excellent performance!
When you reach the age when this becomes applicable,do you understand this cry.
On cold damp days when the arthritis kicks in, or after you have buried another dear friend.
Fantastic...
Sumptuous and moving! Thank you.
Вот это настоящий Мистер Трололо!
Vlad, velikolepno !!!
Cała Słowiańska Dusza w tej Pieśni!
I don't know how you all are so surprised that he didn't sing the original version. To sing a G1 in solo is not a joke. Most of basso profundos sing it that way staying in Bb-C range, even the strongest ones.
I have to explain what the original version of the concert Do not Reject Me is. Chesnokov initially made 2 versions of the ending of this song. The first one is with a low note of G, and the second is without a note of G, with a note of B flat. Both options are copyrighted, they are absolutely equal. So both are the original versions written by Chesnokov. The soloist has the right to perform any of them.
@@VladimirMiller1964 thank you for the explanation, Vladimir! :)
У меня нет слов.
Спасибо больше.
Gorgeous from South Africa
Thank you
Боооо бооооо боооо
С Юрием Емашевым, артистом этого коллектива, никто не сравнится! Там такая глубина души и звука!
Is this St. Peters burg Chamber choir? I recognize of a few members and what looks like Kruglov and Ort behind him. I may be wrong
This is the State Capella choir of St. Petersburg, a different choir. Kruglov never sang here, and Ort never sang in the Chamber choir (nor did Miller himself, if I'm not mistaken). That is Ort in the choir here, yes.
Thank you for this new interpretation. I sing , and like this tune
. But I prefer the ending with low G...., much mor impressive!
非常高兴能听到你的声音，遗憾的是pasyukov也唱过这首歌但已经去世了，没有很多关于他的录音。
Is that Aleksander Ort in the Background or did this mans haircut fooled me?
The older basses are the better, what a stupid idea f rejecting them at old age:-)
My Compliments Mr. Miller! Great interpretation. I've the same question of Mr. Claude Batut. Why the Choir master choosed the final without low G? It0s really more impressive (the original first version).
It's clear that Miller doesn't sing G1 because it isn't in his vocal register. He struggles the B an C.. Also in the end of the piece he misses the D singing almost a C# for a moment... indeed this isn't one of the Miller's best performances
alessandro quattrini hes been known to sing down to G1 and F1, so i don't know why he didn't do this ending.
He reach those notes in few lucky days...
+alessandro quattrini You are very right. I dont think this is the original key either(I think this version is modulated to d minor).
Why would you choose an ending that your front singer can't reach or where it would sound like crap? Makes no sense.
Depth is all nice n well, but having a resounding note is way more important rather than forcing it out.
24.02.2022
What was the lowest note? C2? Or B/Bb1?
Update: it was a B1.
G#1 I think.
It was Bb1
nope and nope, it was B1
G1 check the score
@@nicolasbagnoli3564 when ??? xDD
Why is the female choir behind ? I think they almost stand in front because of the their shallow tune.
No G1 at the end?
He doesn't have the resonance that low despite having the range
@@antemahoney4376 There are other videos where he does sing that note, or even lower. The G1 is written in the original score of this song, though some singers opt not to sing it.
@@OlDoinyo i am aware that he does sing it but he doesnt have as much resonance compared to others around that low G
Миллер прекрасен, но есть Пасюков ( уже был, но он навсегда в нашей памяти).
th-cam.com/video/5drXD_6UVus/w-d-xo.html
Ну Пасюков мощнее спел эту песню
I am 15, and i can do a bb1 , its normal?
yes, it is. btw I'm 12 and I can sing a C# 2 :>
@@danielphendarko2651 pls shut up ...no one cares
Depends on what you mean by doing a Bb1. In any case it's a but special but if you can hit it with any resonance (not just fry or tuned growling) then that's extraordinary. I am 17 and i can only hit Bb1 in chest voice in the morning after yelling a lot the night before lol
No, it is not normal. Bb1 is an extremely low note for even a 20 year old, so if you can really sing that low at that age, that is extremely impressive and you are gifted.
🗿 genetics
Получается не стать мне октавистом,ниже Ре бемоль не беру,хотя начал заниматься с вокалистом диапазон заметно начал расти вниз.
Почему же? Вовсе нет. Октавистом не стать за неделю, месяц или год. Но голос десятилетиями развивается, и диапазон его расширяется как вверх, так и вниз. Главное с этим делом не спешить. Всё происходит само по себе и в свое время. У меня в 19 лет тоже диапазон заканчивался на си-бемоле контроктавы. А к 50 годам появились ноты на кварту ниже. Так что желаю успехов! Главное - желание и терпение.
@@VladimirMiller1964 Спасибо большое!))
как то у Пасюкова поглубже было
Владимир Миллер прекрасен, но Златопольский недостижим.
После Пасюкова слушать невозможно, при всём уважении
спето нормально, по нотам всё правильно. солист спел все низы. но на этом всё. абсолютно без вкуса, слушать неинтересно. у солиста такой вид, как-будто бы сделал одолжение, что его величие изволило спеть песенку. Пасюков пел более "вкусно".
дядь. там не было солиста, и Владимир больше хоровой октавист. Солисты это где соло выписано. А Володя тут смиренно хоровую партию поет не вылезая из баланса. Многая лета Владимиру Миллеру
@@BegemotshAlun петь и озвучивать партию - это не одно и то же.