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Seems like owning a Maserati outside of warranty is financial suicide lol
I’d love to see a long term owner’s video whose Ghibli has been a good car.
@@rajkirannatarajan9276 like looking for water in desert
Paul Johnson 😂
Just like every other expensive car...
That's all luxury vehicles....
That keyfob was designed to get you to the dealership so they can recommend additional “necessary parts” and probably a wheel balance to you.
A maserati is like that trophy chic.. You know she ain't worth shit but you still keep her around because she garners so much attention
Not even bro, it’s like a basic chic acting like 10. And thinking she’s deserves everything she wants.
With this car you’ll never know what part will have to be replaced over the next 2-3 Weeks?
2018+ model is a huge improvement in overall quality and reliability, and this is a fact confirmed by all the expert reviews. And the exterior design charm and engine sound are still unique.
It's funny how all the haters and envious people commenting on blogs and youtube disappear in real life when you actually meet people. All it gets is just compliments.
I have 82k miles on my 14 and it's still running like a champ...
Daaamn thats awesome. Hope i get those same kinds of blessings near my higher mileage years.
@Ed Ward - What parts of this car are engineered by Chrysler? Please explain further
Ed Ward - what is the source of this information? There is quite a bit of false information on forums
@@CgBrian you can kinda put two and two together just compare the infotainment system to any Chrysler product they all look the same just have their own logos on the screens. So if fiat owns Chrysler they most likely do the same thing as every other auto maker and that is sharing parts. It's way cheaper to just share parts then to design something different for every brand that's under the fiat brand etc. Some forums do have false info but in this case the other commenter is most likely right
Joshua Robinson - not to be rude but you are rather incorrect.. it’s a Mercedes lX platform that the 300 was supposed to possibly share the center of .. only what is referred to as the middle portion of the platform is shared whilst being engineered new otherwise. The entire suspension and drivetrain including all wheel drive system is all Maserati.. There is nothing Mercedes about the chassis used by the Ghibli. There are also no chassis parts sharing between the Ghibli with any Chrysler product. It’s designed by Centro Stile Maserati under Marco Tencone..
Interior design by Giovanni Ribotta, the Italian chief exterior designer at Maserati.
Carlo Potzianti is the chief engineer for the vehicle and has no affiliation with Chrysler except for them being the parent of Maserati and many other brands.
The engine block is made in America-developed by Maserati, reportedly from the Pentastar V6 (but now unrecognizeable as such), and built at the Maranello Ferrari plant. It was completely designed and engineered by Maserati as well.
Harold Westor has stated that “aside from
Electronics there is nearly nothing from Chrysler in the new ghibli and Quattro models”
I think you are confusing a company being parented by FCA and thinking that means the companies it owns all share the same engineers. They do not. Yes they absolutely share some basic parts across the board but what you are saying is the equivalent of calling a Lamborghini Volkswagen engineering which is a complete stretch. In reality though a Lamborghini does share a ton of literal audi components.. to say it’s engineered by them is silly. Also you are confusing the shared platform Diesel engine with the actual ghibli engine.. yes the diesel one is a shared platform but I’m pretty sure we weren’t talking about that engine.
Whew! you are a brave man for owning that car!
You mean Chrysler Ghibli
HKMediaChicago - why would you make up such a random statement with no truth to it? Ed Ward - not to be rude but you are rather incorrect.. it’s a Mercedes lX platform that the 300 was supposed to possibly share the center of .. only what is referred to as the middle portion of the platform is shared whilst being engineered new otherwise. The entire suspension and drivetrain including all wheel drive system is all Maserati.. There is nothing Mercedes about the chassis used by the Ghibli. There are also no chassis parts sharing between the Ghibli with any Chrysler product. It’s designed by Centro Stile Maserati under Marco Tencone..
Interior design by Giovanni Ribotta, the Italian chief exterior designer at Maserati.
Carlo Potzianti is the chief engineer for the vehicle and has no affiliation with Chrysler except for them being the parent of Maserati and many other brands.
The engine block is made in America-developed by Maserati, reportedly from the Pentastar V6 (but now unrecognizeable as such), and built at the Maranello Ferrari plant. It was completely designed and engineered by Maserati as well.
Harold Westor has stated that “aside from
Electronics there is nearly nothing from Chrysler in the new ghibli and Quattro models”
I think you are confusing a company being parented by FCA and thinking that means the companies it owns all share the same engineers. They do not. Yes they absolutely share some basic parts across the board but what you are saying is the equivalent of calling a Lamborghini Volkswagen engineering which is a complete stretch. In reality though a Lamborghini does share a ton of literal audi components.. to say it’s engineered by them is silly. Also you are confusing the shared platform Diesel engine with the actual ghibli engine.. yes the diesel one is a shared platform but I’m pretty sure we weren’t talking about that engine.
You okay bud? You know it was just a joke right
@@CgBrian geeze chill bryan -- its still a piece of shit
Anthony Robinson They’re fanatics.
Paul Johnson it’s a piece of shit but for reasons unrelated to Chrysler
"Special tools" to work on the key fob... Lmao u mean a torx head and phillips? And I think this guy works in the service dep... Wow...
Carlos Vreal - exactly..
He is a special tool 😂
This is nowhere near falling apart, it's just normal wear & tear... clickbait exaggeration lvl99.
Can't believe I just watched a 17 minutes video about changing a key fob battery...
That is falling apart when a older Honda out last a brand new car
I had 2 LEVANTES since the day they first came out. NEVER 1 TIME BROUGHT IN FOR REPAIRS.
Such an informative video love this guys channel I’ve been researching what car fits my lifestyle & work. Looking to pickup one of these and hopefully keeping it for a few years as a daily driver.
Glad you're enjoying the content! Anyway I can help I'll do my best to. Thanks for tuning in!
May have added this very vehicle to my stable. Picked it up in Coral Gables for about 32k. So far so good. Replaced the Pirellis with Bridgestone Potenzas. Added the 2 yr extended Maserati dealer. warranty. Blacked out the tail lights and removed all badging off rear end except Mazerati.
greetings Ron: what is your advice on the most cost effective way to add the paddle shifters to a 2015 Ghibli SQ4 that did not come with them? Thanks!
I enjoyed this Vlog style video from Ron. Can't wait for the new videos
Thank you, I dont get to do it often so glad you enjoy it.
Ron did you do anything to the exhaust? Sounds pretty loud
Great video. Its good to see the cost under warranty and out of warranty if you have a car like this.
Thank you Dominique, just trying to be as informative as possibly.
My Tire Pressure Sensor on my Giulia Ti Sport is very sensitive. Even after we updated the ECU. It’s still an awesome car. It’s probably those Pirelli’s, I am a Michelin Man myself, that’s what I have on the Daytona!!!
A lot of folks have told me the Michelin's are much 'better' tires. Not sure if thats preference or not but I'm not opposed to trying them.
Try Nitrogen.....
I’m done with pirelli a long time ago
Being using BF Goodrich for almost 8 months, wayyyyyy better and more durable than Pirelli...
$250 a piece and well worth
Rons check the oil level with the stick on the engine.
Oil level was good, he said the sensor may be going bad but he topped off the oil just because, Tech also said im good still until I come in for my annual service
I'll watch all the ads you throw at me to help you pay off those repair bills LOL
Yeah I watched them all too, hopefully hes on top of his repair bills now
What was broken on the old liner that it wasnt locking in?
That is the most difficult Key Fob to change the battery... I currently have a new SQ4 with less than 1,000 miles and a Ferrari in my garage for Italian cars. Italian cars are completely different from other manufacturers. You have to be patient. Strange things happen... I like driving my Ghibli as a daily driver. Compare to what I experienced with older QP and Spyder, it is a nice ride that gives me a big smile. Let's see how it goes as I put some more miles....
How did it go
I just purchased one. I am going to pick it up tomorrow. I hope I get the same pleasure. I am giving up my Lexus GS 350
I like the way you mixed in the music at a low level. It gave ambience without overpowering the info of the vid. Good luck with the car.
Get yourself a cell phone repair kit on eBay. Great to have in a jam. Comes with a great selection of tiny drivers of all sorts. Best of luck with ur sled bro! 👍
I have a 2016 Ghibli and just had to change both my key fob batteries this week too! now my bluetooth has stopped working on the media centre,, if I press the 'bluetooth/add new phone' Botton it just doesn't do anything, like the bluetooth page doesn't exist anymore!.. any ideas anybody?
really helpful, well done@Jack Smith
Had P zeros in my E92M3 and they were the worst !!!
Currently running cup4s in my 2015 C63 507 edition and I love them !
Maserati my favorite.car i see them being so affordable, they so aesthetic pleasong with such a great sound but will never buy one but if i did would probably stick a ls engine in it.
I had the Pirelli P Zero on my Giulietta, god they where awful. Im glad i dont have them anymore.
For out of warranty Ghiblis, that wheel well cover is $50.00 on www.scuderiacarparts.com. And as you can see, its simple to replace.
Good find James! Thank you!
Updates? Did you keep it?
I hope when I get my 2018 it won’t have these kinds of problems
The Ghibli has been more and more refined as the years go on. I rarely ever see any newer Ghibli's in the shop.
My friend bought one for 21k and hasn’t had problems for almost a year
For almost a year? Here around a Maserati costs 30.000 and I could get from the same year a Audi S6 and it most likely would outlive 6 Maseratis.
"Falling Apart" ? A bit much no Ron ? SAVAGE !!!!
Lol feels like it to me.
since when "oil level low" = "time to change oil"? I guess engine is consuming oil and this is causing sometimes "low oil level" warning lihght or oil level sensor is giving false reading... Oil level is not same as reminder to change...
Michellin Pilots are great tires Or Uniroyal Tiger Paws I would go with filling them with Nitrogen as well
Good ideal on the nitro. Its not costly at all and makes sense.
Man I have a '14 with 19k mikes. I rarely drive mine too. Just coming out of warranty. I'm concerned now wondering if I'm going to start having issues!!
Please keep your fingers crossed. At leas now you'll know how much things will cost.
Great looking car
Thank you for your videos. I was going to get one Maserati ghibli i test drove it but after seen your videos and now this one to made me change my mind to stick better with the German Cars i have never had problems. Your Maserati has 23k miles and so much problems you don’t expect from exotic car es ist a shame of Maserati
dimi Murati nice you saved yourself. Don’t get me wrong. It is a fun car to drive. I have the same issues overall. The car runs good though. Then again they are expensive to maintain. Will i get another one, Maybe not. You cannot beat the drive compare to German cars. It’s a life experience and a expensive one. Haha
Im gonna agree with Kamransyed15, I love my car but they are/will be expensive to maintain because its a Maserati. That just comes with the territory. I had a new BMW 535i but i didnt enjoy driving, it as much as my Masi. Sound, look, exclusivity, prestige. I just wanted something more out of my automobile.
kamransyed15 i agree with u it sounds good and drives good but i have seen that this cars have to much issues that i dont see it with other cars and its not about how expensive is to maintain its about the time that u lose and nerves that u have to go everytime to the dealer like rons said not even 75 days that he had oil change. Im very disappointed with Maserati i am fan of Maserati.
You poor soul! I admire you for buying a legendary brand like Maserati, but... I sort of feel bad for you. Great video, though.
I have the same issues overall also. I also had the black lip done in the front. I copied ! Haha... I see many of your videos. I thought you had the chrome blacked out! My is a 2017.
Nope never did the chrome! And copy all you want lol. Glad we can relate and learn from each other. How many miles on your 2017?
Great video on how to change the key fob... at the dealership! But, that's the new way: Even for change a simple battery you need to go to the dealer! About your issues, please don't say the car is falling apart because stupid people will use that to diminish the brand. The car have issues, ok, "Italian car" issues -:), it's normal because all the rest that matters in a car work fine and main components the engine, power train, suspension, all mechanicals work without issue. Man, it's a 3 year car!! It's a almost-new car in "my town". But beware with all the modern cars, I don't know how that will be while ageing.
Yeah you're right, Italian quirks. I'll probably post a video of all of those issues ive had with my car since everyone always asked. I still love it though, I just like to keep people posted about it, I am super thankful that my engine and trans are champs but what else do you expect from these cars =)
Believe me...German cars have just as many, if not more "quirks".....
Dino Pappous my 3 (coming up to 4) year old E350 has none of the creaks, rattles and poor build quality
Agreed. To many people worried about 1 little issue. Come on Key fob battery ?
Man I own a 2016 what is with all the bullshit?I don't see a Ferrari or Lambo on here with the bad shit It's Italian you think Ferrari or Lamborghini is any different than Maserati sorry it's not.Wake up if you can't pay don't drive buy a Toyota and shut the hell up.
I paid 4 grand for my 2012 civic and it’s 4000 times as reliable as that ghibli
Cool story bro
Sir Tristan see im attractive so I wake up to breakfast in bed regardless of my car 🤷🏽♂️
Sir Tristan Dude I’m in college and my kitchen is like 3 feet away... it’s never stopped my previous side pieces from doing it😂😂😂. It’s okay tho... I understand that you want to share your lonely experiences with me, but unfortunately I don’t know how that feels lil man 🤷🏽♂️
Sir Tristan you figured it out... bravo 👏🏾 The crazy thing is my car is still more reliable than that ghibli and now I know for a fact that I have a hater(YOU). You tried so hard with that last part, but it honestly made no legitimate sense.
Who gives a flying shit about your Civic? Maserati buyers and Honda buyers are not even remotely the same group of people. This car was never intended for you, and the ones who buy it don't care for a fucking Honda Civic...
That exhaust clip told me to grind more!
Motivation!
Maserati Daytona? is that on Tomoka Farms, just down the street from pretty much every new car store in Daytona?
um who does your maintenance? If you don't have 3 different Torx drivers its best you take it to Maserati.
Its pretty sad a 3 year old car with 25k miles has problems. Id get a Maserati but it would be like my 3rd car that i drive occasionally and have the lowest of expectations for haha. If it works ill just be pleasantly surprised and ill never take the car on road trips to the desert, rural areas or moutains
It’s better selling before warranty expires.
May be an upgrade come close to the end of next year.
absolutely.. that or extending the warranty
How much was the battery replacement?
They still havent had me pay for it yet, I'll do a update video when they do.
Rons Rides Good deal 👍🏾
For a car that price the gauges sure are boring. Look at the E class AMG’s full digital dash or the LC’s electromechanical marvel of an instrument cluster for what one should get at this price point.
Maseratis depreciate very quickly, you could get a used one a few years old for $30,000 but if you are going to spend 30 Gs for a used car there are much better options out there
Nice ride, Ron.
Thank you Steve!
Does this car not have a dipstick?
It probably has low oil pressure
8 diiff stages just to change the key battery?
Nice video! Interesting to see the insides of a key fob. I do have a couple of questions though:
if the battery was to die completely, can you start up the car by using that mechanical key?
Secondly, I don’t normally like to give out criticism to people, but surely a quick check of the oil dipstick would’ve saved you all that time?
You can still start and enter the car if it died completely. Using the physical key to get in ans the rf transmitter being inside of the car would be in range to be able to communicate with the vehicle. As far as the oil pressure, I thought of that but even after seeing it was okay I still needed Maserati to diagnose and clear the code while noting that the sensor may be going bad. So I just let them take care of the whole process and put it on their records.
Ah right, best to have a piece of mind in that sense.
WHAT'S THE YEAR FOR THE CAR???
What's the best year of the car to you???
oil might just need to be top off a quart or half. BMW's and Porsche's have this same problem of the engines just burning oil, might want to throw a quart in the trunk
Good idea, my tech topped if off just in case,
@@RonsRides com on get me a matience for lolo
Never had that mutch problem with my Chrysler 200s 2015 150 000 km on the clock... It's basicly the same car right ?
😂
Ron Rides Im so glad you least your car.
I purchased it lol
I would not take that as a gift.
It’s the time for you to get ridoff the car. I had the same issues with my 2015 sq4. I got rid off it. I had the same problems with the wheel skirts but it was replaced warranty, and the main battery also died and it was replaced.
I have seen so many people complaining about severe quality issues in the internet, that the overall picture of this brand is somewhat like highly emotional but crappy... The thing is that when you buy a mercedes or bmw you would not expect something to happen, but with the Ghibli you do expect it, which makes you loose faith in the car. I dont care about how it corners around curves, or how fast it is, but I do care about reliability. I hate it when something rattles, and what I hate most is that feeling of lost faith... You start the car and wonder if its going to break down...
None of theses issues should happen on a 2-3 year old car. What happens when it gets older? 7 or so years? These minor issues seem to be an indicator of the overall quality. This is so sad, because the Ghibli would be my first choice if the quality would not be so low. Why doesnt Maserati understand that this is one of the main reasons people dont pic this car? No wonder they depreciate like hell. Not many people take the risk of owning a car with unpredictable reliability.
But if these are the only issues that are happening then it might not be so bad after all.
Yeah, but what if not? You cant sell the car like any other bmw or Merc if you feel you have to get rid of it... If you sell it, you will experience the loss of most of its original msrp. So better keep it, but then you mightnhave to live with an unreliable car... btw - the Ghiblis seem to have issues with the programming of the gearbox. The ZF is usually the best in class, but only on the Ghiblis people report to have issues... looks to me as if the programming is not state of the art eather... And also what a lot of people are reporting is that the car somehow doesnt feel tight... Also a sign that something just doesnt seem to be right... keep in mind - the ghibli is just a few years old... it should feel,like a new car!
Many people have this car.. older and more mileage than him.. including myself.. with non of his issues at all
im waiting for mine to get delivered
What spec did you get?
Used. 2015. 20k miles. Not the all wheel drive. The cheaper one. I’m really into these cars. Just got a deal on it. How has it been for you?
@@MarcAugustine there is a reason you got a good deal on it. Someone wants to make it somebody else's problem.
3 year car on 25k miles??Ron, you plan to keep it. i think i just lost interest in the ghibili. i have a 5 year old car at 86k miles and most ive done is fix breaks
Thats how my girlfriends Honda is. Runs like a champ and yeah it has some stuff to get tuned up but cars that are pushed will eventually push back on your wallet if you're not careful lol.
It burns engine oil time to time just like Audi so gotta add a quart
My 2006 Quattroporte only has 20k miles on it and has no problems. I'm thinking about putting a different exhaust on it.
Damn thats incredible. Those QP's have an F1 exhaust right? Heard they were tough to drive. Thoughts? That exhaust may sound pretty incredible.
Rons Rides I believe it is the F1 exhaust. It’s the perfect balance between quiet and loud, and it’s got the low end growl at idle. The car takes some getting used to with the transmission being an early Ferrari single clutch, but I like it because it feels mechanical and it feels like something is happening when you shift. It’s my favorite car to drive in the weekends. An amazing GT car. I’d like to drive one of the newer Quattroporte GTS’s or a new GT MC and see how they compare.
Is this why you left the dealership Ron?
Ton thanks for being honest and transparent!
Dang at 3 yrs...way too much work...I guess better now than at 50,001
Based on all these comments about this being a Dodge or Chrysler or Fiat product I’d say Maserati USA has some PR and marketing work to do. 😂 😂 😂
Y’all look like an Egyptian king in dat car pal
U mean african
I would also like my car "to fall apart" like this Ghibli. 😎
LOL
Sheesh man that skirt comes out on lots of Ghibli. Whenever you stick that inside it just fall apart couple weeks later once again.
SHENGYUAN LIU - why has mine been in place for over 3 years with not a single issue? Along with thousands of others?
Cgbrian Guess you're lucky lol
My front left wheel skirt turned the same way. Can I bring it in to fix it?
Call your service adivisor and Im sure they will take care of you.
jajajaja that's easy to change dude! don't be lazy :PYou can buy the KOBALT kit (same one you used in the video ~15$ at Lowes)The key fob battery is simple to change and it does happen. I usually change it once a year and keep the date recurrent on my iphone. The check engine light thank God it has not happened in my new one!but I do need to top off oil. I had to come bye and get oil since cant find a 1qt of 10-60 Pennzoil in any autozone.but I do drive a ton and have now almost 6500 miles and only 4 months :O
I honestly was going to replace the battery but then the mechanic told me about the loctite glue and I didnt want to fuck something up while trying to wiggle it out. Now that ive seen it up close and see that there wasnt much loctite on there at all, Im totally cool with replacing it, Damn, yeah you are driving bro, hope the car continues to hold up very well for you!
This thing is a chuckwagon compared to the AMG GT coupe or the 6 series GT. Those seats and interior trim are put to apocalyptic shame by what you’d get on a Lexus LC.
$300 for some low-grade (how it broke in the first place) plastic liners!?
Thomas Griffin when all it needed were the clips to hold it on...
MASERATI 😎
Jeez. I've spent some months investigating getting some sort of European car, after mostly Toyotas for 3 decades. I'd like a European, but there's no way I'm going to buy into this sort of poor quality, bad workmanship, high costs. Life's too short to waste it on dealership visits. Outside of maintenance, I've had 2 problems in 30 years: a speedo cable, and an alternator. And that's on cars aged 4-14 years.
I'd have to keep a Toyota as backup, anyway, if a Euro joined the stable.
Maserati employee shitting on their cars 😂
Charge you for battery replacement on your fob wow those mechanics are laughing at you big time. Why do people buy these cars.
Oh no! That sucks.
most ppl that buy this card doesnt take care of em..this confirmed that to me..
the car is fine thats petty shit that happens to many 3 year old cars. batteries die, oil needs changing. smh
babyjay watch the other video where his passenger headrest moves like a bobble head, it had a few other unacceptable issues for such a new and expensive car
The interior squeaks and runs while he drives, that’s crazy
he knows, he just needed the ad revenue to make up for the cost! haha
Title of this video should be “first world problems”. Lol
This car is a Lemon: I thought people were protected against Car Lemons?
These cars were not designed for backyard mechanics to play with. If you can't afford to have the car serviced by the dearler as needed you better off sticking to Toyotas.
I gotta say you could’ve easily changed that battery. This car should NOT be having these issues at 3yrs 20k+ miles that’s pathetic. I have 07 E63 amg 05 jaguar s type r and more none of my cars have miles this low or any of these issues that’s sad.
You drive a great brand, as for the car, it does not even match a 5 series BMW ! Same as Maserati Biturbo decades ago. Worth zero $ second hand. Speed of depreciation is probably higher than car speed 😃😃😃
Who wants a bmw that all the front grille and whole body style look exactly the same lol. 5 series are the ugliest ones and also why would you want to be like everyone else like Beamer or Benz everyone drives them. Be normal if you want to that’s on you.
Tell me that you won this car on a game show and didn’t spend your own money on it.
It was odd that your speedometer was in Km/h but your actual miles was in miles.
I think I changed it to km/h on accident.
@@RonsRides cool. I just figured they'd coincide with each other, not independently
1. Swap out battery in fob 2. top off engine oil - Invoice: $739
Ordered wheel well + fixed the one that was falling off
Its all bu....t if you treat your maserati good its really railiable car, I have on my 100k Miles and no single problem
Sounds like this car will leave u broke, I was interested but never mind.
Did i F up i just brought this car for 20k only had 30k miles out it
Omg his key battery is low this guy is something. Can someone tell him to go buy Kia lol.
Change the oil
Way to much drama with this car. Beautiful car tho
wilsmits66 - there is only as much drama as the few loudmouths on TH-cam have made.. other than that the car is great
@Sir Tristan lol
haahah cant believe people buy this Chrysler lemon XD
You can get one now on Autotrader, with around 30k miles, for around $30,000.....less than half for what it sold for in 2014 brand new. With an exotic car that has parts taken from the Dodge Dart & Caravan and an interior door panel gap so large, people would expect it to depreciate dramatically.
LouieGMDesign13- not a single part on this car came from a Dodge Dart.. and Chrysler had nothing to do aside from Fiat international owned.. stop making stuff up with zero factual basis.. Ed Ward - not to be rude but you are rather incorrect.. it’s a Mercedes lX platform that the 300 was supposed to possibly share the center of .. only what is referred to as the middle portion of the platform is shared whilst being engineered new otherwise. The entire suspension and drivetrain including all wheel drive system is all Maserati.. There is nothing Mercedes about the chassis used by the Ghibli. There are also no chassis parts sharing between the Ghibli with any Chrysler product. It’s designed by Centro Stile Maserati under Marco Tencone..
Interior design by Giovanni Ribotta, the Italian chief exterior designer at Maserati.
Carlo Potzianti is the chief engineer for the vehicle and has no affiliation with Chrysler except for them being the parent of Maserati and many other brands.
The engine block is made in America-developed by Maserati, reportedly from the Pentastar V6 (but now unrecognizeable as such), and built at the Maranello Ferrari plant. It was completely designed and engineered by Maserati as well.
Harold Westor has stated that “aside from
Electronics there is nearly nothing from Chrysler in the new ghibli and Quattro models”
I think you are confusing a company being parented by FCA and thinking that means the companies it owns all share the same engineers. They do not. Yes they absolutely share some basic parts across the board but what you are saying is the equivalent of calling a Lamborghini Volkswagen engineering which is a complete stretch. In reality though a Lamborghini does share a ton of literal audi components.. to say it’s engineered by them is silly. Also you are confusing the shared platform Diesel engine with the actual ghibli engine.. yes the diesel one is a shared platform but I’m pretty sure we weren’t talking about that engine.
Cgbrian You have some serious issues .
Its not a Maserati, its new Shit.
I was thinking of purchasing this car. However, after seeing how many issues you. and other guys have with it. I think I'll pass