I Screwed Up...Carpentry Isn't Always Glamorous...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video I deal with a situation where I had to add some crown after the fact. Normally this would be no big deal, but with an uncopeable crown its a little tricky and a little ugly making it all mesh together.
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Sometimes the sign of a great carpenter is not that they never make mistakes, but that they know how to make it look like there was never one in the first place.
Most carpenters would never post their mistakes but you are a true craftsman I have the most respect for you
Over the years I’ve garnered a lot of respect for those that can admit and take responsibility for their faults. Kudos and thanks for posting.
As I always say" the only guy who doesn't make a mistake, is, the guy doing nothing." Keep almost smiling Spencer. Lol
You said it all.
Finish is like painting make mistakes it will show.
Recently found myself in the exact position with a coping challenge and after staring at it for what seemed an eternity I finally dove in. I always look at those things so critically and kick myself, feeling like a cat could pass through the gaps. In all actuality, I've never had someone else come to me and point out the areas I know to be flawed. Your end result looks great and I appreciate you sharing how you approach these tricky challenges.
Popping the side piece off on the doorway is my move. I think you stole my move. On my first crown molding job (my house), I didn't need caulk...I needed Bondo!
Never thought I would hear Spencer say: DO YOUR BEST AND CAULK THE REST!
Truuuuuuue haha!
Lol. Sounded like a cuss word coming from him🥴
Since I've found color-matched caulk for our custom cabinets I install,it gives a little forgiveness.
On a double cope (of which I had yesterday, around a tall range cabinet hiding the vent pipe),I try to cut my double mitered front 1/16 long.
That allows 1/32 per side to flex into the cope.
Since our vent hoods are ceiling height,they usually get copes on both returns.
When stained meets painted it can be a challenge, often the projection varies up to 1/4 from one side to the other on existing.
Add wavy ceilings and walls makes me happy to have learned pre-assembley👍.
This past Thursday I drilled a 3 drawer stack of drawers for the wrong hardware😶.
Thankfully our painter stayed late and fixed them,so I could install them today !
Thanks for all the tips,and content Spencer! 🙏
Good tunes at the correct time!
And, as always is the case, you give a realness to your skills. You are one of the most humble professionals in our trade, Sir.
"Do your best and caulk the rest".
Consider that stolen!
I also like the one I got from the Perkins Brothers....
"Yeah, it's got that far-away look...the farther away I get the better it looks!"
Now you need a sliding mirror clamp so you can see around the corners when you put something like that up!
Great work.
The struggle is real when you are trying to take off a 1/32 of ca glue with a miter saw.
I really appreciate this video. I am a DIY guy and have been running crown throughout my house. I have mitered everything and unfortunately some of my inside corners weren't perfect. Thank goodness for caulk, paint grade crown and 11 foot ceilings.
what I do in these types of copes is score the trouble spots on the installed piece with a knife at a 45 and dive into it with a small chisel . this allows me to leave some meat on the coped piece at the thinnest spots. Thirty years and still coping!!!lol!
That's definitely the way to do it.
I have been faced with this problem several times, my solution is to use a plumb line laser up at the crown where the cut should be and use a multi tool to perform the cut. It's how I tie into a flex/rubber crown.
The best carpenters know how to think out of the box. Nice method!
I use a table saw to cope that crown. It was a method i learned from a friend years ago and thought, "cool. Glad i know how to do that.. i will never put it to use." Sure enough, it comes in really handy with that exact crown. The height adjustment of the blade determines the back-bevel/back-cut. I agree, it really should be mitered. However, there are invariably a few instances which dictate a cope. Nice work, man. I have learned tons from you. Thank you
Solid video Spencer! Thank you for being so real. I use a Dremel tool with the mini drum sander attachment to clean up copes. You can really dial it in for a tight fit.
I also have a rotary tool handy when coping.
Glad I saw this video. I crowned my master bath using double bead - smaller profile - in three piece MDF. Well, I never coped before and decided to try it in the small room that has the commode. Using my abrasive cut-off wheel, I coped the ends and they were paper thin as you demonstrated. I was worried. Installing it was worse. It cracked. I caulked and then switched to conventional miters. Relieved to know that it might not have been me, just the double bead. I’ll try the cope again with different profile. 👍
Love all the changes to your channel
As always another great video
I am always shocked to see people hit the thumbs down on you. You should have a million subscribers !
Never a worry with Spencer on the job site. Nice work and this home looks incredible. 👍😎👍
It's not the mistakes you make, it's how you fix those mistakes that counts 😁
One good thing I took from that , I use that glue cos I seen you is it, when I first used it I bumped it against a wall and a piece fell off and thought oh shit that don’t happen to Spencer , I’ve done something wrong 🤦♂️ it did happen so that made Me feel a little better 😃 I just shaved the glue back a bit the same as you did there 🤣
It also....is the mistakes you make. Those hurt the most.
Thanks for your honesty. At the very least, it underscores the point of your previous video on uncopeable crown moulding.
Nice recovery. Such a nice looking house with some nice features. I look forward to seeing the final pics. Enjoy your videos and watching your methodical work.
Looks great and thanks for posting! Looking forward to the video showing it all finished.
It’s always nice to have something that simple give us such a hard time keeps us humble and creative lol looking forward to the next video
There is a saying,” A Master Carpenter is One Who Can FIX His Mistakes “!
And no-one knows the difference.
I had a house a few years back and we had a lot of radius flex crown and it was all 7 1/4" double beaded crown. So I came up with a way to run all of the flex crown first and then cope the straight into it. I made a jig out of a peice of crown to mark the top of the flex where the miter hits, then with a multi tool just cut out the top bead. So the straight crown was mostly coped except for the very top. Worked awesome, no open meters, all tight. Mabe give it a try if the situation comes up. By the way great videos keep up the good work.
With Carolina crown, miter just the uncopeable bead and cope the rest. You can miter the adjacent part with a multi master if the part is already installed.
It's great with music! 👍👍👍 As in Hollywood movies. Council. Oak dust causes lung cancer. When you work with a special jigsaw, it is inconvenient with a vacuum cleaner hose. You can use a blowing fan. When I work on the end saw, I cover it with plastic wrap on top. Like a tent. I'm duct tape. I'm tucking in from below. I'm plugging in a vacuum cleaner. Behind the saw creates an area with discharge of air. Dust almost all flies into the vacuum cleaner. Clean.
I really appreciate your posting your mishaps... I most often feel like finding solutions to trim installation issues (self-inflicted or not) is a major skill on its own. I mostly install crown on old work. Ceiling dips totally suck, for example. Maybe you could do a video on that someday.
Spencer, I am one of those guys who thinks I can do it better than professionals, and I would hire you in a heart beat! Thanks for the share.
Spencer, I've heard it said that a craftsman is only as good as his ability to cover his mistakes!! Most guys wouldn't have admitted this. I personally think you did it justice and and you commented, it will paint up fine. I always admitted my mistake to others and some could see it while other couldn't. In the end as long as the customer is happy, that's what matters. You file these away in your memory and the next time you'll remember. Just that simple. Nice fix. Ron
When doing my pre-glue ups, I will often hit the joint with my 23 gauge to ensure the lock on the outside mitres. 2p-10 is awesome but having it blow out on an integral piece is a pain in the ass.
When he bumped the crown on ceiling and it broke apart, I could feel the pain. Then that last piece wouldn’t go in and that’s where I unload a barrage of cuss words. I use a pin nailer first b/c it allows me to move the crown a bit to get better fit. Then I nail it off with brads.
Those kinds of thngs happen and just show how good of a tradesman you are in your ability to fix them. Great video.
excellent...
reminded me of a horrible crown situation; I coped with a thin blade in a small angle grinder
@3:52 story of my life...lol
Would be cool to see a few more of these finished (painted) product videos or pictures after all the videos you make on a particular project.
The trick on coping that crown is to have a over coped sample and you need to lay it on the already up pc to see on the roll where the top miter on the bead lands and dig it out with a chisel or just cut the bead with a multi tool (miter cope) . i did a 8k house with this exact crown. started in the kitchen coffered ceiling i mitered it all but was told i can not miter the whole house i must cope it. Some people stuck in there ways. I figured it out and everthing worked out. Double copes were a pain but after doing everthing in the summer and now in the winter things still tight.
Using a sample piece to mark where to cut that little extra off makes the most sense for sure if you are forced to cope it.
always a joy catching your vids! you do a superb job always
I make a contoured sanding block with spray adhesive and the thinnest sandpaper I can find, than true it up if necessary.
Nice work, the trim installations in my area is typically prefinish or prepainted so not real forgiving.
Excellent! This is the real thing, when something not go as planned, there’s always a way to fix it and get it done the best one can, now there will be some people that may not like it, but hey, you are the one here with the Chanel 👍... respect on not been afraid to show using caulk when you need to it’s ok. Love that phrase “do your best and caulk the rest” 😆 😉 👍
the dramatic music made the suspense and i appreciate that ... even tho I know you make everything perfect
I put what appears to be that same crown in my bathroom last year and coped it. It came out great.
Well at least I think it did as once again I'm a musician not a trim carpenter...lol
Best edit yet. Epic music. And the ole caulk spit shine 🥳
Nice recovery. I , on the other hand, would have required that whole tube of caulking.
Killed it with the spit. That’s my non stick method also
No Crown stops an Un-copable crown and an aggresive garage door = PERFECT results --BOOM - Mic Drop--- #It'll paint up
Great work!! Thanks for the knowledge!!!
Caulk and paint make it what it ain't! Nice job... I like to call that creative learning!
Love the new edit it’s not about what a carpenter mess up it It’s about making it look like it never happened your awsome
Yes !! Nice work! Any comment on what you might have done differently had you known to install that section as you were doing the rest of the room ?
Thanks for everything, all great material !!
He would have mitered both pieces rather than cope
@@russellsage1536 Thanks, that's obvious !
Unfortunately that style crown is not square by about 2°
Both installs were spot on, that crown can be a nightmare. Especially if your punching out over another person's work.
Great video keep them coming
So Milwaukee nailer with a dewalt battery?
Good job I love hanging trim!!!! Finish carpenters are hard to find!!! The good ones stay busy!!!!
Spit shined and all! Love it
Everybody makes mistakes brother, but not everybody fixes them. Good job 🙏🏻👍🏻
True pro. Thing is, the homeowners would probably never notice. Only the architect doing a punch list would put the blue tape on a tiny bad joint. They have to justify their fee.
Great job but where is your crown stop on the saw?
Didn't need to break it out for only a couple pieces. I just used a pencil line on the fences.
Perhaps what’s in this video is not the most acceptable work of a tradesman, but of a true craftsman. This man practices his sport well.
Great job man!!! Love learning new tricks!
Hey it happens to everybody.
I just finished a job when the previous carpentry , well floor installer, tried to install trim.
The base board was 1/2" off the floor, and in one location he used several finish nails to draw it back to the wall it didn't.
So they fired him,that and even nail he used nail set.
He told them would take 2 weeks.
I installed the egg crown, vase door x3 2 window casings, pocket doors to be hung, fit exact fit counter top.
All in 5 1/2 days.
Gvr we'd that built the dining room addition a whopping 6x12 only took 6 months with s crew of12.
They would work 3 or 4 hours a day and quit,not me u show up at 7 or 8am stay until 5 or 6pm. Agreed upon withe homeowner.
Wish I had your skill, and knowledge. I've lots to learn still.
Nice to finally see that you’re human, like the rest of us! Great work as always, thanks for videos.
Love the spit in the caulk trick!!!
I saw that too lol
Makes it glide across the caulk. Silky smooth.
The hard part is getting your girlfriend to do it
Excellent video. Skills pay bills mate. Nice work
That is real life carpentry... sometimes you have to make it look as good as you can and move on
Also make sure you buy the painters LOTS of coffee and donuts or a trip to Cuba.... whatever it takes. Painters can hide your shortcomings or make you pay for it dearly.
The somber tone of some these comments you'd think you had to break out the backer rod
Thanks for showing this video, we carpenter are not always perfect. Good work if i must say.
Uncopable yet you coped it... amazing work.
still better than 90% of the other guys doing it
I measure I paint, I do my best, calking and paint will do the rest. But then again, I only do stain grade crown, so there's that.
i felt your pain glad you did it.
I enjoy your videos! Do you always cut your crown in the nest position
Yes
Awesome as always !!! Nice work !!
Great job man! Thanks for everything... I really appreciate, and enjoy the channel
I wish every screw up would end like that. Great job.
I knew you could pull it off !! I had faith in you . . I have a question tho ; why didn’t you use the Glue gun on that ??
Thx
Mouse
CA is faster and easier. I prefer ca glue for crown.
You do killer work sir. Hard work being a one man crew and producing these videos I'm sure
I was expecting worse-it wasn’t bad at all and after it was painted it was a non-issue I’m sure.your just like any good mechanic and your harder on yourself than anyone else would usually be...also my wife always cringes when I start spitting on my finger to get caulk to flow just right-always gets the yuck face going😂
Hell that looks a lot better than some of the crap that’s out there! Homeowners won’t know!
Hey Spencer, no shame in using a little chalk when you habe to. Are you sure it wasnt the angle of the wall return. I always checking angles. Can you do a vid about your new saw amd set up please? In particular giant fences, zero clearance on saw turn table and new wings? Habe a great night mate🇦🇺
You bet. I'm sure I didn't get the angles right. I was rushing it, trying to get in and get done.
@@InsiderCarpentry im thinking you got tje angles right, it's the walls fault 😁
Also requesting a video of new setup. Thanks for all the great content!
Just wondering, is there blocking in the wall and ceiling, or are you just nailing into plaster?
Blown away that you were able to cope that.
There’s always that 1 job. That’s something goes wrong but ur the man spencer. 👏👏🤙🤙🇮🇪🇮🇪🪚🪚🔨🔨
Love your videos...how do I get a hoodie? Thanks!
That wasn't quite the approach I would have taken. You can cut in the miter on the top part of the existing crown with a fein tool. put blue tape on the ceiling to bisect the angle. It looked like you just cut 45s. But I guess it worked for you.
What type of miter saw wings are attached to your dewalt stand.
Fast cap best fence.
Just subscribed fantastic tradesman nice that you shared when even the best make mistakes and your up there with the best good to see a young man in the trade we need more I’m 55 was hoping to slow down but not many comeing into double glazing or carpentry ido both have a good evening
Thanks for the sub!
What about backing strips for the crown to ceiling attachment?
Hi spencer, couldn’t help but notice that you seem to have a dewalt battery on your Milwaukee nailer. Are the dewalt batteries compatible with all Milwaukee tools?
I use a batter adapter. $30 on amazon.
He hates caulk so much he spits on it lol the man is amazing at what he does
PS- don’t be ashamed of the red nailer, it’s legit. Glad you found a battery adapter to make use of all of your yellow batteries 👍
Good work, what mitre saw extension table is that??
Problem solver No 1: small hammer.
Problem solver No 2: bigger hammer.
Problem solver No 3: sledge hammer.
Problem solver No 4: Scrap it and start again. 😂
You forgot the 75 collins mitre clamps 😂
Yep, my motto has become, do your best, and then fix it. Do it better the second time. Lol
Spencer, for the longest time I thought you were robot!! I had never seen any fallacies on your channel. Nice recovery and thanks for sharing the video.
It sucks when it doesn't go the way you need it to go, I speak from experience. Stuff like that keeps me awake at night. I was surprised you didn't use Big Stretch, particularly for this job.
I like those small tubes because I can carry them in my bag.
that black hoodie looks official bro👌🏽, how can I buy one to rep the homie ? 😎
Great job! Like it was never a problem. What kind of red nail gun were you using?
That' Milwaukee
I figured that part out. Which one?
18 gauge milwaukee gen 2
@@InsiderCarpentry Thank you!
That'll paint up!
As a painter, If I see a carpenter with a caulk fun it better be flue ir silicon. My builders know dont caulk nothing. Dont putty nothing. Thats my job.
Mistakes happen to everyone!!
It’s how you learn.
Yeah I would’ve left the crown off that too.
Good thing it’s getting painted. No one will ever know 😉
What is that tool you were using in the beginning at 1:04?