Welcome to the light! Yeah, I totally plan on doing more commentaries. I'm waiting for the first big set of m+ changes before I say too much so that it stays relevant.
@@JickolasI would also love this. I starting playing holy pal this expansion and honestly can’t stop playing it! I raid warlock for my guild but healing dungeons with hpal is so fun!
Group where everyone uses interrupts and avoids standing in dmg = healer happy. Nice run, pretty well executed by everyone, and helpful for me as hpal raider to see how good m+ healers play.
Well played, thanks for the video! I wonder what do u thinnk about "Light of the Martyr" talent. Ellesmere said that additional healing from this talent doesn't compensate heal absorb. I did some testing and calculations myself and it seems to be true. In order for "Light of the Martyr" to be effective it's additional healing must be greater that 42% (if i am correct).
Yeah that makes sense. He's objectively not wrong, especially with the absorb stacking on overhealing. However, I like to run it as a way to increase my healing on other people at the cost of my own survivability. I''ll prob test without it later in the week, just kinda running my beta build now haha
Hey! Nice video man. Im new on healing and play HPal as well. Im using default blizzard UI raidframe as party and i cant use Holy shock as mouseover in grp or raidframes.. that makes it very rough for healing cause i always need to change target by klick and cast and i lose uptime on mobs to gain holypower faster and so on. How can i fix that? i couldnt fine any help in google lol
Howdy! That sounds very strange. If macros / click keybinds are simply not able to work, I have no idea. You may have a random Addon or Weakaura interfering with your settings? Before I started using click keybinds in Cell, I used these macros: #showtooltip Holy Shock /use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] Holy Shock #showtooltip Holy Shock /cast [@mouseover] holy shock Alternatively, if you go Options > Keybinds >Click Casting, you could maybe bind your Holy Shock in that menu? Sorry if this doesn't help / you've already tried these. But it's my best guess. Good luck!
I absolutely love your setup with Addons. Clean, simple but effective. Can you give me a rundown on what you’re using? I believe that’s standard party frames with Omni CD and what’s the bar in the middle with your spells, Also any other addons you’re using like clique etc
Thank you :) This doc has my full addon list and some import codes for those with profiles: docs.google.com/document/d/1elJSiKCeUss51VGM2iMnyazFjLAZr2T_dwFG8BGw_jk/edit#heading=h.76dgg5dqdg71 But to answer your specific questions: -Party frames + defensive icons on the right are Cell (mouseover keybinds are also done in Cell) -OmniCD for the defensives on the left/group cds on top/kicks on bottom/ccs in mid-bottom -Bars in the middle for mana/holypower/consecration + active buffs/procs are weakauras -Ability icons are my bartender bars! I also use this addon to hide some bars I don't need to always see. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@snorman22 I was going to talk about talents a little before the .5 patch was announced, but now I'm a bit hesitant. So when those come out, I'll definitely talk about them!!! Keybinds are a bit different since as long as they: 1) don't impede your gameplay ability 2) work for you personally then it doesn't *really* matter what your binds are haha Glad you like my gameplay though, thanks for watching!
reason for clearing the trash next to church, but then heading to house to clear, then back to church? is that so u pop cooldowns on that first big trash pull?
Thanks gamer. I'm using the raid frame addon "Cell", so this isn't standard. You'll have to find a weakaura or other addon to do that for you on Blizz Default UI.
Thanks! I've tried Lightsmith a few times - it feels fine and is a little more damage I think... but with BoV there's just too many gcds and not enough time in my opinion! Might be better with Beacon of Faith Maybe I'll upload my next test run :)
Thank you! I don't use Elvui, but there should be a link to all my UI stuff in the description. I'll be updating the import codes again in 24ish hours from the time of this reply, so you may want to wait until then :)
Nice ..i play holy paladin myself , i played paladin since classic but was more on private servers , anyway whats your HPS normally? without wings? does it really matter? i am annoyed by a guild mate with i raid with , he is a sresto shammy and likes to brag how much HPS the healers in the raid have and i was always behind him by like 50k or 100k , depends.
Cool, I'm also a long-time hpal player :) Raid HPS only matters if your raid is constantly dying and you can't do enough to keep them alive and safe... But, if you're always pushing yourself to do more (ethical, not pad) hps, you're going to keep getting better. If your guildy beating you pisses you off and you want to beat him: -look through your logs -study fight guides and timings -watch the raid fight from the PoV of another Hpal -practice your rotation -record your own gameplay to look for mistakes -be fast! When I was a raider for a bit , I used Warcraftlogs and WoWanalyzer as my primary resources, plus Hpal fight PoVs. I'm only 7/8H from pugging - not much of a raider anymore. Here are some links -www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/71469712 (look yourself up and compare to what other high hps paladins are doing) -wowanalyzer.com/ -Watching Driney / Ellesmere on twitch Hope that helps you!
Thanks! If you link to somewhere specific, maybe I can give you a better answer. But yeah pretty much awakening procs! You can do a cool trick with them: After you stack 15 procs, it turns into the new buff (cant remember the name, but it makes your judgment glow on action bars). When that happens, you can start building new awakening buff stacks. It's not like super mathematically correct because you have to not cast judgment the whole time. But you can hold the wings activation buff for 30sec while building stacks. So if you're planning around when you want to use the wings procs, you can get like 5-8 sacked up before you actually activate the first one! Also just lots of spenders (esp free ones from divine purpose) help to get more procs rolling, of course!
@@tftg458 Ok I see. I didn't do anything special in particular there. It all comes down to your ability to effectively generate and spend holy power, since the more spenders you use, the more wings you'll proc. Some basic advice: -Don't overcap holy power if you can help it. -Use Holy Prism / Divine Toll / Avenging Wrath as much as possible (within reason). These technically increase your power generation rate. -Have lots of haste. Shorter gcd = more casts = more wings. Sounds like a fun video topic. I'm going to flesh out my thoughts on the subject. Maybe I'll make something over the weekend if I have time between grinding m+! Thanks for your comment!
TY! There is a really cool bug in The Dawnbreaker where BoP removes the light/safety buff. So if you keep buff on the whole duration, you die at the end lol
I'm brand new to Holy Paladin. I'd love a few of these with your commentary talking about your decision making and what you're doing.
Welcome to the light!
Yeah, I totally plan on doing more commentaries. I'm waiting for the first big set of m+ changes before I say too much so that it stays relevant.
@@JickolasI would also love this. I starting playing holy pal this expansion and honestly can’t stop playing it! I raid warlock for my guild but healing dungeons with hpal is so fun!
Awesome run!
nice run!
thanks for the content man, it would be nice to have an addon that tracks abilities you pressed :)
Ooooops lol. I had that on beta, but forgot to bring it to retail...
Group where everyone uses interrupts and avoids standing in dmg = healer happy.
Nice run, pretty well executed by everyone, and helpful for me as hpal raider to see how good m+ healers play.
Yeah this pug was very enjoyable, clean all around :)
Well played, thanks for the video!
I wonder what do u thinnk about "Light of the Martyr" talent. Ellesmere said that additional healing from this talent doesn't compensate heal absorb. I did some testing and calculations myself and it seems to be true. In order for "Light of the Martyr" to be effective it's additional healing must be greater that 42% (if i am correct).
Yeah that makes sense. He's objectively not wrong, especially with the absorb stacking on overhealing. However, I like to run it as a way to increase my healing on other people at the cost of my own survivability.
I''ll prob test without it later in the week, just kinda running my beta build now haha
Hey! Nice video man. Im new on healing and play HPal as well. Im using default blizzard UI raidframe as party and i cant use Holy shock as mouseover in grp or raidframes.. that makes it very rough for healing cause i always need to change target by klick and cast and i lose uptime on mobs to gain holypower faster and so on. How can i fix that? i couldnt fine any help in google lol
Howdy!
That sounds very strange. If macros / click keybinds are simply not able to work, I have no idea. You may have a random Addon or Weakaura interfering with your settings?
Before I started using click keybinds in Cell, I used these macros:
#showtooltip Holy Shock
/use [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] Holy Shock
#showtooltip Holy Shock
/cast [@mouseover] holy shock
Alternatively, if you go Options > Keybinds >Click Casting, you could maybe bind your Holy Shock in that menu?
Sorry if this doesn't help / you've already tried these. But it's my best guess. Good luck!
I absolutely love your setup with Addons. Clean, simple but effective. Can you give me a rundown on what you’re using? I believe that’s standard party frames with Omni CD and what’s the bar in the middle with your spells,
Also any other addons you’re using like clique etc
Thank you :)
This doc has my full addon list and some import codes for those with profiles: docs.google.com/document/d/1elJSiKCeUss51VGM2iMnyazFjLAZr2T_dwFG8BGw_jk/edit#heading=h.76dgg5dqdg71
But to answer your specific questions:
-Party frames + defensive icons on the right are Cell (mouseover keybinds are also done in Cell)
-OmniCD for the defensives on the left/group cds on top/kicks on bottom/ccs in mid-bottom
-Bars in the middle for mana/holypower/consecration + active buffs/procs are weakauras
-Ability icons are my bartender bars! I also use this addon to hide some bars I don't need to always see.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@Jickolas Thank you! What are the odds we could get a short hPal talent guide / go over your key bindings. I absolutely love your videos.
@@snorman22 I was going to talk about talents a little before the .5 patch was announced, but now I'm a bit hesitant. So when those come out, I'll definitely talk about them!!!
Keybinds are a bit different since as long as they:
1) don't impede your gameplay ability
2) work for you personally
then it doesn't *really* matter what your binds are haha
Glad you like my gameplay though, thanks for watching!
I really wanna watch the video but the picture covering the chat gives me PTSD. 😅
Hahaha, yeah... Robert E. T. probably isn't the best chatblocker XD
reason for clearing the trash next to church, but then heading to house to clear, then back to church? is that so u pop cooldowns on that first big trash pull?
Probably, but it was a pug group and they didn't tell me the route ahead of time so idk for sure lol. Seemed to work well though!
Gj mate, pls tell me how did you configure the display of shields on standard frames?
Thanks gamer. I'm using the raid frame addon "Cell", so this isn't standard. You'll have to find a weakaura or other addon to do that for you on Blizz Default UI.
good job bro, wanna try weaponsmith for fun, what do you think?
Thanks! I've tried Lightsmith a few times - it feels fine and is a little more damage I think... but with BoV there's just too many gcds and not enough time in my opinion! Might be better with Beacon of Faith
Maybe I'll upload my next test run :)
love your elvui and your weak aura can you share it ?
Thank you! I don't use Elvui, but there should be a link to all my UI stuff in the description. I'll be updating the import codes again in 24ish hours from the time of this reply, so you may want to wait until then :)
Nice ..i play holy paladin myself , i played paladin since classic but was more on private servers , anyway whats your HPS normally? without wings? does it really matter? i am annoyed by a guild mate with i raid with , he is a sresto shammy and likes to brag how much HPS the healers in the raid have and i was always behind him by like 50k or 100k , depends.
Cool, I'm also a long-time hpal player :)
Raid HPS only matters if your raid is constantly dying and you can't do enough to keep them alive and safe... But, if you're always pushing yourself to do more (ethical, not pad) hps, you're going to keep getting better.
If your guildy beating you pisses you off and you want to beat him:
-look through your logs
-study fight guides and timings
-watch the raid fight from the PoV of another Hpal
-practice your rotation
-record your own gameplay to look for mistakes
-be fast!
When I was a raider for a bit , I used Warcraftlogs and WoWanalyzer as my primary resources, plus Hpal fight PoVs. I'm only 7/8H from pugging - not much of a raider anymore. Here are some links
-www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/71469712 (look yourself up and compare to what other high hps paladins are doing)
-wowanalyzer.com/
-Watching Driney / Ellesmere on twitch
Hope that helps you!
what addon/wa are you using for the dungeon timer??
This one: www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/mythicplustimer
Wow 615ilvl + 4 Tier set .
I play a lot :)
@@Jickolas no gear no game...
Damn, well played man :o you had your wings up like 4 times in 3 minutes. What amni missing except awakening proc?
Thanks! If you link to somewhere specific, maybe I can give you a better answer. But yeah pretty much awakening procs!
You can do a cool trick with them:
After you stack 15 procs, it turns into the new buff (cant remember the name, but it makes your judgment glow on action bars). When that happens, you can start building new awakening buff stacks. It's not like super mathematically correct because you have to not cast judgment the whole time. But you can hold the wings activation buff for 30sec while building stacks. So if you're planning around when you want to use the wings procs, you can get like 5-8 sacked up before you actually activate the first one!
Also just lots of spenders (esp free ones from divine purpose) help to get more procs rolling, of course!
@@Jickolas just first 3.5 minutes I guess. Do you have tips on proccing wings more? I'm not at home for a few days so can't check it out/test atm.
@@tftg458 Ok I see. I didn't do anything special in particular there. It all comes down to your ability to effectively generate and spend holy power, since the more spenders you use, the more wings you'll proc. Some basic advice:
-Don't overcap holy power if you can help it.
-Use Holy Prism / Divine Toll / Avenging Wrath as much as possible (within reason). These technically increase your power generation rate.
-Have lots of haste. Shorter gcd = more casts = more wings.
Sounds like a fun video topic. I'm going to flesh out my thoughts on the subject. Maybe I'll make something over the weekend if I have time between grinding m+!
Thanks for your comment!
@@Jickolas great feedback! I'll definitely try to keep an eye on that!
@@Jickolas thank you man! best content for Hpal on yt :)
why did you remove your BoP at th-cam.com/video/u_QFk3T2btA/w-d-xo.html
Really enjoying the content keep it up
TY! There is a really cool bug in The Dawnbreaker where BoP removes the light/safety buff. So if you keep buff on the whole duration, you die at the end lol
@@Jickolas haha small indie company