Hi Chris, the table at the end is very useful. You achieved the same overall speed (68 kph) at both 110kph and 130kph. Therefore you could argue that the best speed for long distance driving is 120kph.
maybe I should stick to my summer tires and just don't drive the Leaf below 5°C then... here in West Germany we get snow maybe 2-3 days a year. It is strange bur i get 16 kwh at 100 km/h and maybe 18 at 114 km/h in my Leaf at 10°C. Thats a huge difference.
I do not know if anybody mentioned this here but the issue is with the Leaf's AC system. It is old fashioned and consumes a lot of energy. Probably because you used it to unfog the windscreen it destroys good consumption. We have a 40kWh Leaf and with AC in city cannot bring lower than 15.8kWh, without 13.4kWh was the best.
@@decimal1815 if you have a higher level model you have heatpump but below N-Connect there is no heatpump for heating only for cooling. Don't ask why they cannot use it for both. Therefor when it is cold it works like a hair dryer with a 1 or 2kW heating element.
I enjoyed this, great comparison against other EVs. The DC charger that you say is noisy, is the only type of DC charger I have used in Portugal. I thought they would all be noisy. :-)
The soc on the dash is misleading. At 20% in my 40kwh leaf it’s around 30% when reading the bms. I get around 13 kWh per kilometer at gps 90 with all the comfort features on. Don’t really understand why your consumption was so high to be honest unless it was windy .
@@jak8 when new the Leaf Plus does habe 58+kWh at its disposal, then after 3 months the car starts to take an additional buffer (in the 2019 it takes a little bit each quarter, in the 2020 it looks like it takes it all at once) taking you closer to the 56.
Wow, that was surprisingly thirsty, thought you had the eTron early Chris 😉 but it's an SUV with wider tires. Will be fun to see the best speed for a Taycan. 😁 Get 19" tires and the larger battery. 270kw from 5% to about 43%.
The combination of high consumption and slow charging speed is a killer for the Leaf e+. At least in other cheaper EVs they might have a smaller battery, but their range will be similar and charging will be near double this speed (43kW).
I suspect that Nissan is lagging behind in the efficiency of their battery and motor an all the control electronics. And the aero drag is also not great.
Will you test the ID.3 Pure version with 45kWh and 100kw option? If it can sustain 100kw Charging at least up to 50% then it will be best bang for the buck!
Does this have active liquid cooled battery management? They are bringing this to Australien next year and if it doesn't then the battery is going to be vulnerable to our 40C+ summers.
I live in Portugal and there is no way I was going to risk my money on a car without active battery cooling in the summer. I nearly purchased a Leaf until I saw a video of rapidgate in Scotland where it was 0ºC.
I wouldn’t buy one if your planing on long drives , like more than 600, where U then get heat issue , rapid charging at 40c not good. I have a 24kwh for around town , does the job
Interesting your GPS didn't match the speedometer. Here in the states multiple reviews show it as right on. Thirsty tires I guess, but your numbers were very high.
@@BatteryLife ok, it was 10C here in Chicago today, so ran a loop at 90km/h (it feels so weird to drive in km/h on US roads). My turn around was a few light cycles so average looks low. I used pro pilot entire time. Tires at 42psi. I did a bit better, still propilot is thirsty. This was a 2019 with stock Michelin energysaver tires. drive.google.com/file/d/1QOeZqn5tggm18pONSYufFLjzsVPUgFDl/view?usp=drivesdk
@@BatteryLife if you drive without propilot, you do better. Its not a terribly efficient driver. When taking our SV+ over 400 km on the highway, I have to drive extremely efficiently. Very level accelerator. We have an S+ as well with the smaller narrower wheels. I wi do the same run tomorrow and post, but it feels like a lighter nimble car, it's kind of weird how different actually. 0-100km/h is .5 seconds faster.
@@BatteryLife ok, I ran the same loop twice with my S+ today. The first time with cruise control, second time without...and surprise cruise control won. I set the cruise at 93 km/h to align with GPS 90kmph. With Cruise: drive.google.com/file/d/1QOzJgbeX2yFbOgnN89w13S4k7ZsqSRFq/view?usp=drivesdk Without cruise: drive.google.com/file/d/1QP-4y6HODEQWjNGAOVyGEYcqQiv-svRi/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks for another great video
Wow amazing car . In the end It is true: the biggest battery will improve the range of the car . Thank you , Chris for your work .
Hi Chris, the table at the end is very useful. You achieved the same overall speed (68 kph) at both 110kph and 130kph. Therefore you could argue that the best speed for long distance driving is 120kph.
130 was 30sec faster.
maybe I should stick to my summer tires and just don't drive the Leaf below 5°C then... here in West Germany we get snow maybe 2-3 days a year. It is strange bur i get 16 kwh at 100 km/h and maybe 18 at 114 km/h in my Leaf at 10°C. Thats a huge difference.
I do not know if anybody mentioned this here but the issue is with the Leaf's AC system. It is old fashioned and consumes a lot of energy. Probably because you used it to unfog the windscreen it destroys good consumption. We have a 40kWh Leaf and with AC in city cannot bring lower than 15.8kWh, without 13.4kWh was the best.
Leaf has a heat pump, so should be a thirsty heater at first, but should drop energy consumption once it gets to optimal flow temperature.
@@decimal1815 if you have a higher level model you have heatpump but below N-Connect there is no heatpump for heating only for cooling. Don't ask why they cannot use it for both. Therefor when it is cold it works like a hair dryer with a 1 or 2kW heating element.
I enjoyed this, great comparison against other EVs. The DC charger that you say is noisy, is the only type of DC charger I have used in Portugal. I thought they would all be noisy. :-)
Ionity has a fan but no high pitched sound. 150 kW chargers and hyperchargers have a very loud fans.
The soc on the dash is misleading. At 20% in my 40kwh leaf it’s around 30% when reading the bms. I get around 13 kWh per kilometer at gps 90 with all the comfort features on. Don’t really understand why your consumption was so high to be honest unless it was windy .
I was going in both direction. Wind shouldn't affect the consumption then.
@@BatteryLife to test true range, you really need Leaf Spy. There are 4kWh below 1%.
i got 58kwh out from my leaf 62 and drove 400km with speeds 80-100
@@jak8 when new the Leaf Plus does habe 58+kWh at its disposal, then after 3 months the car starts to take an additional buffer (in the 2019 it takes a little bit each quarter, in the 2020 it looks like it takes it all at once) taking you closer to the 56.
Agree, but in reality most people will not want to drive on highway when the car is flashing "nearly empty".. so it's good to test range to that point
Wow, that was surprisingly thirsty, thought you had the eTron early Chris 😉 but it's an SUV with wider tires.
Will be fun to see the best speed for a Taycan. 😁 Get 19" tires and the larger battery. 270kw from 5% to about 43%.
The combination of high consumption and slow charging speed is a killer for the Leaf e+. At least in other cheaper EVs they might have a smaller battery, but their range will be similar and charging will be near double this speed (43kW).
Propilot isn't very efficient. You do better with manual driving.
Also the %SoC isn't linear against the battery.
I always do my racobe tests with cruise control. I want a constant speed.
I suspect that Nissan is lagging behind in the efficiency of their battery and motor an all the control electronics. And the aero drag is also not great.
Will you test the ID.3 Pure version with 45kWh and 100kw option? If it can sustain 100kw Charging at least up to 50% then it will be best bang for the buck!
I want to
@@BatteryLife Do you have info on when it will be available?
Does this have active liquid cooled battery management? They are bringing this to Australien next year and if it doesn't then the battery is going to be vulnerable to our 40C+ summers.
Nope!
I live in Portugal and there is no way I was going to risk my money on a car without active battery cooling in the summer. I nearly purchased a Leaf until I saw a video of rapidgate in Scotland where it was 0ºC.
I wouldn’t buy one if your planing on long drives , like more than 600, where U then get heat issue , rapid charging at 40c not good. I have a 24kwh for around town , does the job
Leaf should be avoided in a hot climate.. unless you can leave the car in the shade when parked
Interesting your GPS didn't match the speedometer. Here in the states multiple reviews show it as right on. Thirsty tires I guess, but your numbers were very high.
You can see the tires in the video.
@@BatteryLife ok, it was 10C here in Chicago today, so ran a loop at 90km/h (it feels so weird to drive in km/h on US roads). My turn around was a few light cycles so average looks low. I used pro pilot entire time. Tires at 42psi. I did a bit better, still propilot is thirsty. This was a 2019 with stock Michelin energysaver tires.
drive.google.com/file/d/1QOeZqn5tggm18pONSYufFLjzsVPUgFDl/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks, Even that is a bit higher than what I expected from the leaf. I thought under 140
@@BatteryLife if you drive without propilot, you do better. Its not a terribly efficient driver. When taking our SV+ over 400 km on the highway, I have to drive extremely efficiently. Very level accelerator. We have an S+ as well with the smaller narrower wheels. I wi do the same run tomorrow and post, but it feels like a lighter nimble car, it's kind of weird how different actually. 0-100km/h is .5 seconds faster.
@@BatteryLife ok, I ran the same loop twice with my S+ today. The first time with cruise control, second time without...and surprise cruise control won. I set the cruise at 93 km/h to align with GPS 90kmph.
With Cruise: drive.google.com/file/d/1QOzJgbeX2yFbOgnN89w13S4k7ZsqSRFq/view?usp=drivesdk
Without cruise:
drive.google.com/file/d/1QP-4y6HODEQWjNGAOVyGEYcqQiv-svRi/view?usp=drivesdk
What PSI were your tires at?
2,5 bar
do you have correct tire pressure ?
2,5 bar on all tires
@@BatteryLife so this car is just hungry ;)
@@peterhric2942 I got about 22% better efficiency in my LEAF Plus on my last journey. Was about a 170km journey.
Just wondering, does the leaf shutdown completely if you don't use it?
You still check it via the app.
15.9 kWh = 15900 Wh = 159 hWh (hecto-watts-hour)
LOL
In German that would be REVEBE Test.
Terrible headlights!
What a difference from the ID.3 Matrix lamps....
ps and here I thought RaCoBe was a japanese dish served in Deutschland.