Testing the A2Z Typhoon NACS adapter on a Tesla Supercharger!
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Now that Ford EVs (and soon other non-Teslas) have access to 15,300 Tesla Superchargers, we wanted to test this NACS adapter from A2Z! The A2Z Typhoon NACS adapter will work seamlessly with Tesla Superchargers as long as you car has been updated and granted access to the Tesla network. Right now, Ford EVs are the only ones with access and they are getting OTA software updates for this. Other EV brands are coming soon!
In the video, we show that the adapter works perfectly with our Mach-E and the Tesla Supercharger.
We do want to note that Tesla and Ford have not officially supported using any 3rd party adapters as of today but that could change.
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=== Full specs of the A2Z Typhoon ===
Rated Amperage : 500A
Rated Voltage : 100~1000VDC
Conductor Material : Silver plated copper
Contact resistance : 5 mΩ
Shell Material : UL-94-V0 PA66
Operating Temperature : -30°C to 50°C
Security : Dual 85ºC temperature sensor switch
Sealing gasket : silicon rubber
Locking : NACS lock requires to be engaged in order to charge - CCS side locks into the vehicle while charging
Security : locks into the vehicle while charging
Certification : In the process
Degree of protection : IP54
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Ford adapter info: ford.com/FastChargingAdapter
Caution: No 3rd party dc fast charging adapters have been approved by Tesla or Ford (3/11/2024 USA), and this version of the A2Z adapter appears to heat up significantly more than the Tesla-designed Ford adapter during high-power charging.
Nice discount! Thanks!
You guys are killing every other EV TH-camr right now. Good for you. Great to hear to hear this has been your best week ever. Well deserved. Keep it going if you can. Work on those how to park at Supercharger to only lose 1 or 2 spots in all even if it's full videos next. Get a few friends from those EV clubs you attend for the presentation.
Thanks Paul and that's a great idea! It's been on our list to do but I like the idea of getting friends in on it! - Liv
@@MachE_VLOG Np. Even if they don't have an adapter yet, after they are all parked properly, they can each try your Ford Tesla made adapter one by one down the line so they each see how simple it is for themselves.
Tom M with State Of Charge had a great interveiw with not only the CEO but an engineer ... that gave me confidence in the product as well.
State of Charge video title: "The Tesla NACS (J3400) To CCS1 Adapter From A2Z EV Is Here, And I Speak With The CEO About It"
I have the A2Z CCS to Tesla adapter for my Model Y and am very happy with it so the quality is there.
That's one reason I wanted to test this. A2Z has a great reputation in the Tesla community already.
Thanks Liv and Patrick! I picked up an A2Z J1772 adapter awhile back, and I liked the construction and packaging quality. So now I have one of these CCS1 adapters on order, which I'm hoping arrives by the time GM EVs are authorized to use the Superchargers.
I also have their Tesla destination adapter. I found that it is a quality build, full metal with two locking points with keys to prevent theft. I will have to compare the cost with GM.
I appreciate this video. I also appreciate the gentlelady convincing the gentleman to test the temperatures on the original adapter. It seems like the A2Z adapter gets hotter, but that could be due to the different materials used. I, for one, will be glad when we don’t have to mess around with adapters and cars have native NACS ports in the near future. This seems like a pain in the ass.
Probably just because the ford one has more space inside between the housing and the connectors. The heat generated inside (like on the copper) is likely to be nearly identical. Not really a concern. Both have temperature sensors.
@@jayhoughton558 The Ford one is the Tesla designed universal adapter. So it's optimized by Tesla engineers. If you look closely, there is a small gap, for heat dissipation on the plastic housing. So, yeah, probably similar heat buildup, with the Tesla adapter (which is the same as Magic Dock) having better heat dissipation.
Clutch your pearls if you think it’s a pain. Sheesh.
I wonder why they didn't make the adapters more user friendly. They could have put a tiny motor inside that would pull/push the connectors and secure reliable connection and do the lock/unlock dance. Perhaps it would be $50 more, well worth it.
Thanks Patrick & Liv! Just got my A2Z Adapter and tested on the Tesla Superchargers here in Tallahassee. After 2 attempts that didn't work, I finally got the latch in the locked position and it worked great! Thanks for the discount code, you guys Rock! 💯
Yay!! I hope it keeps working without seamlessly! - Liv
Ford confirmed that you only need the OTA update to enable the Plug&Charge with Superchargers. Any Mach-E/F-150 Lightning can charge on compatible Tesla Superchargers now, even without the update by activating the session in the Tesla app.
YAY! Very glad to see this! As I've posted on my EV website, I have two A27 "Stellar" plugs (Level 2 charging) for my HPWC and UMC charging stations, and find that they work well with my Ioniq 5. They also came with protective cases. Hyundai has stated that their own adapters won't be available until Q1 2025, even though they will include NACS ports on their EVs in Q4 2024. Go figure. Will they distribute them for free, like Ford? I doubt it. I'll probably have to buy it, or the one from Lectron, or this one from A27. AND IT WORKS! Thank you for posting this! I'm sure many customers, and A2Z, appreciate it! Next you'll need to test out A27's Supercharger extension cord also -which is currently under development.
Thank you guys!💪
I just got mine and it works great!
I'm glad to see your hard work and enthusiasm paying off with the regard by Ford in sending you an adapter to test and publicize. The increased views of your channel based on that content is a natural benefit, and it's good to see you succeed! You bring a unique perspective and you have your own voice, and I hope that more people come to appreciate your efforts -- keep up the good work!
That's so kind of you to say! Thank you💙 and thanks for being around for the journey for ages! - Liv
You guys are kicking butt! Obviously people are interested in this transition to NACS. Keep up the good work.
Thanks guys!
Very informative, thanks very much.
Great information here👍🏼
I have the A2Z CCS adapter for my Tesla and it works great. The company has great customer service also.
I’d love to see you guys unlock the adapter after stopping the charge to remove the Tesla plug first and then remove the adapter from the car. That really solves a lot of the usability issues with having to hang onto the adapter while you’re pulling out the cord. Great video.
Thanks, very helpful. I already order 2 adapters from Ford for truck and Mach E but will wait to order A2Z and hope Ford comes thru quickly. For the extra $30 it seems prudent to wait for Ford and Tesla to approve of A2Z.
Super informative post. Great that people have an alternative. I understand that Tesla has said not to use adapters like this, but if you're opening the network and can't deliver the approved adapters then ... .
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Glad it works and credit to A2Z for seeing the gap in the market... yes there's the free option from Ford, but if it wont arrive in time for summer travel then a third party adapter is probably worth the investment for what will be a busy season of EV travel.
Thanks Partick & Liv. I ordered one for a planned road trip and the big question of when the Ford one will actually arrive. Well done!
Fingers crossed its soon! - Liv
Really well done video with trying both and using the camera FLIR attachment. It sure seemed to me with the OG/OEM Ford (Tesla) adapter which sounded like it was a cover overtop the electronics that the inside electronics would get hot but there would be air seperating a lot of that from the case (ie. designed to be cooler to the touch). Sounds like A2Z was very well built tho.
Where you are grabbing the adapter when attempting to remove it from the Tesla cable is creating a bind. Try pushing the lock with the thumb from the Tesla side. I bet it comes off much easier.
In regards to the heat, that's to be expected, even when the amperage within specs. Typically, there will be some temperature rise associated with running that much current, regardless of the rating, but anything less than 90 C (the typical temperature rating of electrical insulation and electrical tape). FWIW, it does appear that the V3 cables themselves are only really rated for a sustained 350 A. The active cooling and short durations are the main reasons Tesla is able to push past 600 A. So far, the longest I've seen a V3 sustain >500 A is ~7 minutes, so it's going to be interesting to see how these adapters hold up with HUMMER EV and Silverado EV owners attempt to pull 500 A for 20 to 30 minutes.
I got on the waiting list for my Ford adapter and it says it won't ship until August. I really hope they can improve on the times. I was looking forward to going on longer trips this summer.
Thank you so much. You guys do a great job. Question, how long did it take to receive your a2z adapter after you ordered it.
It took about a week but they sent us one to review so we did not go through the normal ordering process. And thank you so much btw! - Liv
Thanks for your observations and all the work you are doing. It is too bad you were not filming in 3D because Patrick moving the adapter toward and away from the camera reminds me of what they did on SCTV's Monster Chiller Horror Theatre years ago when they previewed spoof 3D movies. TH-cam has some clips.
Omg thank you for that crazy rabbit hole! Also, I had no idea that Catherine O'hare and Eugene Levy's working relationship goes that far back. They are just delightful together - Liv
@@MachE_VLOG Good that you got a break from your intense video production schedule and enjoyed some comedy. Second City Television (SCTV) was a Canadian TV sketch comedy show that presented a compendium of programming seen on a fictitious TV station (later network) back in the 1970s and 1980s. It came out of The Second City improv comedy group in Toronto. Besides Levy and O'Hara, you may recognize other performers like John Candy, Rick Moranis, Martin Short, and Andrea Martin.
We’re just catching up to Europe and the way charging is done there. It can only get better.
Two part comment:
1. Testing of the A2Z vs OEM: This will sound nitpicking (and frankly it is on my part): I would say a better apples to apples temp test would be to charge it from identical states of charge to ensure both temp tests were pulling the same total power throughput of ~145kw for the same duration of time, in similar wind/weather conditions.
Eg the A. Z adapter was used for 10 minutes while the vehicle was starting at 23% state of charge vs the second test you did with the OEM provided adapter which you tested for ~5 min when vehicle was above 40% based on the 3rd ring being filled in.
The overall conclusion is still the same that no real concerning temperature readings or feelings of heat were observed for either adapter, but would be curious of the delta between the two in closer conditions :)
2. It looks like both the OEM and the A2Z are still relatively susceptible to theft. EG, all anyone needs to do is tap the stop charge button and then they can remove the session/adapter. Do either of them have a locking mechanism I am missing?
Thank you both!
At some point, we'll probably do more controlled testing. It may take two cars and plugging in at the same SoC and checking temps out over a period of time.
Neither one has a locking mechanism but it looks like Ford is going to make a software change so the port can't be unlocked unless the key is nearby.
Awesome video, I feel like it be useful in Kettleman and Quartzsite due to the lack of chargers for those areas. As there were over 40+ cars waiting at EA stations. Because of the holidays.
GTFO. Seriously? 40 cars waiting at Love's over the holidays?
I have gone down interstate 5 on a holiday weekend and literally dozens of Tesla's waiting at Superchargers at Kettleman and at the next site further south.
@@milesfong3901 I believe it. I also believe that Tesla has added massive DCFC infrastructure along that route. There’s like 200 supercharger stalls on a 30 mile stretch of I-5.
The Tesla NACS adapter is hollow so likely it will not dissipate the heat as well as what appears is the sold body housing of the A2Z NACS, just my take on the observations of your Thermal camera images.
Great video ya'll, How about the Lectron adapter? Prolly works too?
We'll test one as soon as we get it.
Hi Pat and Liv - I think if you go to the charge assist screen in the car it will show your rate when you are actively charging. May want to show that in future video if I am correct.
It shows the max rate of charge for the station but not the actual charge rate.
Most people don’t know what HOT is for a given material or part. Most OEM automotive products are tested to 85C which is 185F and that doesn’t include 10-15° of self heating.
The current temperature sensing method lacks precision. It would be more reliable to verify it using a laser temperature gun, as it might exaggerate the adapter's heat. If it feels warm, resembling a fever, the actual temperature is likely closer to 100°F rather than the reported 120°F.
I wish KemPower themselves were a CPO so I could filter for their hardware only on like PlugShare or Chargeway.
I have had hot Tesla Supercharger plugs, and in sunlight and hot day they will de-rate your charging session due to heat, Kyle at Out of Spec reviews has used moist rag to help cool the Tesla plug to improve charging performance.
That was on V2 Superchargers without liquid cooled cables. V3 & V4 should be fine.
Liv & Patrick - will you guys get the Lectron adapter and try that one out too? Between the Tesla and A2Z, which is easier to use?
Lectron reached out to us about getting an adapter in a few weeks.
State of Charge also complained about the manual lock.
Manufacturers need to think about grandma using this device.
A question on a feature of the official Ford/Tesla adapter I've seen people unsure about: When put into the vehicle charge port, is the "NACS plug release lever" (the one that makes it a 2-handed operation to remove from the NACS plug) physically locked closed?
i.e. if you put the adapter into the car first, are you physically prevented by some mechanism from THEN inserting the NACS/Supercharger handle into the adapter? Likewise, is the NACS release switch physically prevented from being triggered to unplug the NACS plug during a charge session? Or is it like the standard J1772/CCS "release handle" where activating it instantly shuts off charging so that you can safely remove it?
I think there is an interlock that prevents that. Will give it a try.
yeah that is the thing I have seen i dont like about the tesla one... the weird hand technique to remove... not sure i like A2Z's implementation either... but.. at least 'better'... but great to see a test of it... i think the only thing that turned me away from preordering it was them going on about certification, but the only certification they had was the RFI testing, which is like.... the least of concerns. But yeah.. i dunno....
One other thing you can try is insert the A2Z without locking it, plug it into the CCS port on the car, leave it (do not touch it or move it) and see if it will initiate charging (only stop the charging if it does work via app or the stop charging button one the Mach-e
It won’t allow communication from the car to the charger if it isn’t locked. That’s the whole reason it locks. Therefore no lock means no charge.
So My Lightning is showing Plug and Charge available for EA and Tesla. However, the most recent update I have is 6.2.0. Kinda confused, What is your opinion?
The Tesla Supercharger P&C update was a Priority Update and not dependent on other updates. This means you probably got it already. Yesterday, we actually tested with 8 Ford EVs. Two of them didn't have the Tesla update and we were still able to activate charging using the FordPass or Tesla app but P&C failed. So even if you actually don't have the update you can at least charge using an app.
I have a 2018 Ford Focus Electric with the CCS port so it would be nice to get the Ford adapter for free.
Do either of these adapters have any security locks to prevent someone from stealing your adapter when you're having a snack away from the car while charging? At $ 230 a pop, plus many months of waiting, I'm sure it will be the new theft product on Craigslist or Ebay. How do you lock it or cable it? Thanks, Tim Morgan.
Unfortunately not, neither have a way to be locked to your vehicle. - Liv
That's not good considering the cost. My son just bought a new BMW i4M50 and came over to my house for a little juice from my charger. When I tried to disconnect my Chargepoint connection would not release. We figured out that he needed to unlock the car. As soon as the door was unlocked, the lock released. Maybe Ford should program the car not to release when using the adapter. By the way, another excellent video presentation. Thank you.
Try a test if you press the button on the ford and it stops charging see if you can restart the charge session with the app.
My Mach-E official adapter is now scheduled for delivery in June. :-/
A Rivian Guide told me that they will handle adapters by sending batches to local Service Centers, and the Service Centers will distribute them to local customers based on data of vehicle delivery. So earlier customers will get adapters earlier within the service area of each Service Center. I have no idea how they're going to do it for people beyond Service Center reach.
Still not perfect - I'd prefer to see a simple "if you confirm your address before _x_ date, we'll ship adapters in order of vehicle delivery." But more equitable than Ford's "free for all first-come-first-served starting at 5 AM Pacific."
Where can you see when the adaptor will ship?
As someone with limited dexterity in one hand, I’m kind of surprised to find out that the “approved” OEM solution is harder to use than this 3rd party solution.
I can see myself having issues trying to disconnect the OEM adapter because of the need to push down on the toggle and hold it down while disconnecting it
We brought it up with Ford on the very first day. They are aware of the issues. It is a Tesla designed and manufactured adapter, so I hope Ford can produce a more accessible one.
I appreciate that.
I find myself surprised that companies seem to assume that everyone has the same levels of ability.
But Tesla has never seemed to look at their design choices with an accessibility perspective (a friend rented a Model 3 and it was an accessibility nightmare, the Mach-E has far fewer “what were they thinking” design choices, which is among the reasons they are my target for my next car)
@@NefCanuck I couldn't agree more. And I have experienced the same difficulties with Tesla and it's one of the issues that I have with their vehicles. Especially the 3 and Y. The door handles alone are absolutely awful if you have limited dexterity and I find it really disheartening when we receive dismissive or even discrediting responses when I bring that up. It is not ok to intentionally design inaccessibly and I've been trying to push the concept of *design accessibly first*. There is no reason not to design with accessibility and inclusion in mind from the very start. - Liv
Exactly, as I remind folks:
I have accessibility needs *now* that you will likely have later.
Designing in accessibility now, helps you when the time comes and you need the help 🤷♂️
I have a question can you put on your list to speak to the Tesla charger terminology? Ie v3 to v4 which one we can use etc.
Yes absolutely! Thanks for the suggestion. We're planning a video answering common questions and that's on the list! - Liv
Why not wait for the authorized adapters?
Some people don't want to wait until the expected September ship date for their order. We actually have both as you saw in the video.
Good to see the adapter works since Ford/Tesla is so backlogged. Ford not having charging stats available in vehicle is the dumbest decision ever and unacceptable for an EV at this point.
How will I know when my 2023 Mach E Gets it's software upgrade ?
You'll get notified in FordPass and/or Mach-E screen that your car has updated and the title of the update is "Priority Update: Tesla Supercharger Network"
I have a question about ota updates the last one I got was 5.1.1 has to do with battery pre conditioning am I up to date or behind.
I think you are behind. I believe most people have gotten into the 6.x update series as well as other priority updates. When is the last time you got an update? You may want to disable and the reenable auto updates.
I don't remember it's been that long is this a dealer trip or can I do it myself
@@randywhite3958 To disable/reenable go to settings and then updates. Turn it off and on again there and make sure you have a good schedule set. If you still don't get updates, a trip to the dealer might be necessary.
@MachE_VLOG Will give it a try thanks so much
Talked with ford today am behind on updates am taking mach e to dealer next Wednesday so thanks again.
For a better understanding. This currently will not work until approval from Tesla and Ford?
It will work but it is not officially supported. You do need the OTA software update from Ford before you can use a Supercharger.
@@MachE_VLOGI think the OTA is only needed for “Plug and Charge”. You can still charge a FORD using the Ford Pass app or the Tesla app. From what I understand from post on the F150 Lightning forum and testing that people have done.
@@rv7pilot I believe you are right but we haven't tested it. I don't want to recommend people rely on it possibly working when I don't know for sure.
I received my A2Z adapter today. I still don’t have the OTA update yet. I can confirm that the Tesla App will initiate and successfully charge a Lightning without the OTA update.
I wonder if you need the software update for the adapter to work, or just for Plug & Charge to work? I don’t have either so I can’t test.
I'm not 100% sure. We're just saying you have to have the update until we are 100% sure. I don't want anyone to think they can just buy the adapter and go out and use it without having their car updated. Hopefully we can do some testing soon but I also hope Ford pushes out this OTA.
@@MachE_VLOGthat seems like a good idea. I still don’t have the update, but willing to test. 🤞I get the update soon.
You need the software update for the vehicle to charge on Superchargers, whether or not you use P&C.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks Tom! That's the confirmation we need. We were going to test this weekend but your word is solid!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughneyRobert from Ford who was on the OOS Podcast just said the software update is only for Plug & Charge, and that if you don't have the update you can still use Superchargers. Might go check it out this weekend.
Come hang our with our Lightning and Mach E Clubs Saturday and let's keep the content momentum rolling! You can visit the 20 charger indoor EA as well. No Pressure :)
I wish we could but I don't know if we can swing it. We're at Rivian tomorrow, then have to work our 8-5 day jobs on friday and then get out our Rivian content so it would just be a bit too much madness and expense to get up there with the current schedule. We definitely want to get up there though, so maybe we can plan something soon, with more time and prep! Hopefully you guys have something else fun coming up? - Liv
Has anyone tried this with the Chevrolet Spark EV? I own a 2015 Spark EV.
It will only work with Ford or Rivian right now. It may work with Chevy in the near future, but we don't know right now.
If I go to the Tesla app, and add a non-Tesla EV, it shows the same Superchargers available regardless of whether or not I specify that I have an adapter. However, if I specify that it's a Ford, it shows all Superchargers in the area. Since I'd be using the Tesla app with this method, and selecting a specific charger number, and pay with the Tesla app, it would seem pointless for Tesla to check what car is plugged in since they don't use that information if it's not a third party account paying. Has anybody tested using the adapter with a non-Tesla/non Ford using the Tesla app? Obviously it's not officially supported but neither is the adapter.
Yep, Tom Moloughney @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney tried with a Rivian and a Bolt. Neither one worked. This was a few days before Rivian got official access. And now that Rivian has official access, it works seamlessly.
@@MachE_VLOGInteresting. If I go to a station with a Magic Dock, there's no need for the Supercharger network to know what kind of car I have. If I use one with an adapter and the Tesla app, there's no need to know either. Tesla had to go out of their way to keep people from using an adapter by telling the app that it's a Ford. I'm not sure what the reasoning is, given that they allow the same vehicles to charge when Tesla supplies the adapter and it's built in, since a person with a Ford could also use an unofficial adapter. Obviously plug and charge wouldn't work unless it's official, but if I'm using the Tesla app, all they are doing is limiting access. If they think they don't have the capacity, that's worrisome.
Why does it have AC pins???
Good question. The Lectron vortex one doesn't... Interesting
They look to be just plastic. No metal conductor in them. Either because they thought it would align better or look better I imagine.
Other observation is that the Tesla seems to have a spring to aid in locking, so the A2Z may not be as safe as it needs to be manually locked when connecting the Tesla charger plug and I noticed it was not simple.
The adapter doesn't charge in the unlock position. It has sensors. It has to be locked.
@@Jimlokito81 Hi Jim yes by design, but in real world (as tested) does it actually lock out charging.
Ok you have an expensive hand warmer that also doubles as a NACS adapter, koodoos to both of you! Your videos are truly warming!
Can you get the update without even ordering the free adapter from Ford?
i'm pretty sure the software update has nothing to do with ordering the adapter. the updates have been coming to vehicles at different times just like the normal ones. you can still charge at tesla without an update using the tesla app if you have one of the adapters btw. i tested myself and then again the day after i received the update.
Yes, everyone will get the update eventually.
@@MrAngryrooster thank you
(3/11/2024 USA) The thermographs appear to show that the A2Z adapter contacts and internals heat up more than the Tesla-designed adapter, or at least more unevenly with hot spots. This is at 150kW, less power than the 250kW that a V3 Supercharger can provide. The Tesla adapter has at least 3 internal thermal sensors that automatically reduce or interrupt charging if the adapter overheats, A2Z reportedly has 2. Tesla and Ford haven't approved any 3rd party adapters for dc fast charging (so far, at least) and other charging networks don't allow their use, so I would be very reluctant to invest in one. The Superchargers detect charging issues and might throttle or interrupt charging power themselves if an adapter overheats.
Key omission: they failed to test if the Supercharger Tesla/NACS plug can be mechanically unplugged from either of these adapters while actively charging. The shorter signaling pins break their connections first, which should automatically cut charging power prior to the power connections breaking (for safety and to protect the contacts from arcing), but all the connections should be mechanically locked during active EV charging, as is the case when you don't use an adapter (the vehicle charging port is required to mechanically lock the charging plug).
My guess is that the Tesla adapter is mechanically locked during charging (like their Magic Dock adapters), while the A2Z adapter allows the Supercharger to be unplugged (by sliding the lock release, which automatically disables charging). If so, someone could come by and unplug from one of these A2Z adapters and halt charging if it is left unattended. The use of such unsecure dc fast charging adapters might even be illegal in some jurisdictions (or should be). A2Z and others are refining and improving the designs of their (non-OEM) adapters, probably best to wait for expert evaluations rather than succumbing to FOMO and risking damage to your expensive EV and its battery pack.
29:57 I'm pretty sure Ford isn't going to honor my Ford Ranger EVs with an adapter. *sad face*
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Does the A2Z Typhoon NACS adapter come with a can opener to move the charge port to the ideal location?
Not UL or CE certified is a HARD NO for me.
Just so you know, NO adapter is officially certified, including the Tesla adapter
So let me get this straight....Tesla has said on their website that third party adapters are prohibited and here you are testing it. Genius!
We've spoken to engineers and some people that are involved in the writing of the J3400 standard. I felt confident this was fine -- and it was.
It’s not like we have signed any use agreements with Tesla. Our billing is even done through Ford.
It will be fine using good quality adapters like this one. It’s the cheap Amazon ones from noname companies that could be an issue.
It's really to stop low quality adapters. Means only Tesla tested their own adapter to be fully compliant.
I would not buy a third-party adapter unless officially approved by the vehicle manufacturer AND the charging network company. If there were any problem that resulted in damage to your vehicle or the charging equipment, you would be responsible. Super-high voltage DC charging can go very wrong very fast if there is a problem.
All I need is to have my warranty VOIDED
Unless it's a obviously very bad design I don't think anything will happen, it may get warmer but you can quickly test this on your first charge. Both the EV and charger have multiple checks in place and will even check what is the voltage drop. If the voltage drop goes too high the charger will stop automatically
@@StefanoFinocchiarothe A2Z also has temperature sensors.
The price of the adapter should finance a $1,000,000 bond to settle damage claims. Does the supplier operate beyond the range of US law?
These 3rd party suppliers are some of the same people supplying the OEM’s. Like getting Kirkland brand but it’s the same product as a named brand item.
You have to take up two spots just to charge. Tesla owners are getting ICE’d err EV’d err EV ICE’d.
Not always. Many times we have been able to use just one charging spot. And every other time there were multiple open spots so any Tesla that arrived could charge. Tesla made this deal knowing the situation.
Sure, you’ll only be taking one spot for those stalls where a Tesla has to pull forward to charge. Unless I’m mistaken, you’re obviously taking two spots in the video.
@@daarionaharis3675 We can also use the spot on the end and not block a spot(if it is available). In this video, how many people had to wait to charge because we were in the way? As I said, Tesla made this deal.
Cool. A new reason for thieves to break into MachEs. So they can get these $200 adapters every owner will have in their trunk or under the cargo false floor....
I don't think a potential thief would want to break into a car to steal a specialty device that many will be able to get for free. Seem extra stupid.
they're gonna break in regardless if they want to. at least we don't have to worry about catalytic converters being sawed off.
@@MachE_VLOG they can easily sell these though. Only ford has committed to them being free. All other ccs EVs in North America will be in the market for them, maybe not today, but in the months to come
Not good to judge a product with inaccurate temperature equipment with speculation. Very bad video. You’re feeding the beast. I thought you guys were better than this.
I've never seen anyone take a look at a charger or adapter using a thermal camera. We thought it would provide a useful visual to our viewers and we wanted to specify that we hadn't verified the accuracy of the temperature readings. I believe it is still informative to illustrate hot or warm spots. As I think I said in the video, no TH-camr can really test an adapter in the real world. That takes special testing in a laboratory where you can test the upper limits until the failure point.
@@MachE_VLOGi enjoyed the video. You cant control all factors but the thermal idea was great and provided a good baseline and a realistic explanation/ experience
Yahhhhhh Ford owners! Way to go for ruining the charging equipment for us Tesla owners if this adapter fries. Yahhhh Ford owners!!!!!