Using your Lee Enfield .303 rifle as a pistol calibre carbine
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- Not many people know that you can shoot .32 ACP pistol ammunition in your .303 rifle and get some pretty decent results with it, so I made this video
For anyone who wants to see the UK government guidance on chambers adapters, you can read it here
www.gov.uk/government/publica...
Chamber adapters for military surplus rifles were widely available in the US in the mid 90s through early 2000s. Most using 32 ACP, and to a lesser extent 7.62X25. I found the 32 ACP to work quite well in the 303 & 7.62X54R rifles. 🤠
54r would also work very well, it's the same bullet diameter as the .303! I'll have to get an adapter for my Mosin and give it a try
7.7 Japanese also uses .311 I believe, so that could be another interesting option
@@GetBritainShootingI reload for all my .311s with 7.62x39 bullet tips since they are cheaper to get when they are marketed for “ak’s”
@@whyareusobad3528 What do you mean by "bullet tips"? Are they the polymer inserts that go in the cavity of a hollow point bullet to make it more aerodynamic?
@@thepenultimateninja5797 no I meant the actual “bullet” I know that’s the correct term I was just hoping to avoid confusion if a less informed person reads the comment but I guess I did the opposite 😂
But to clarify I meant the bullet the projectile whatever you choose to say
@@whyareusobad3528 Oh I see, makes sense now. I've heard of people in the UK calling them "bullet heads", but "tips" is a new one on me lol
I knew these existed, but until seeing it in use here, I didn't realize how useful it would be for me. The closest range to me is indoor, and only allows pistol calibers. This would get me shooting my No.4 Mk II a. lot more!
They're ideal for pistol cal only ranges, that's mostly what I use this for! I've also let some new shooters try it, to get the feel of trying a full size military rifle without worrying about recoil.
Good to see gunowners outside the US
Cheers mate! I like to think for England I've got a decent little collection
I had a steel adapter to fire 45LC out of a Martini Henry rifle I use to have. My cousin Larry Miller machined several at his shop.
What sort of accuracy did you get out of your Martini with the .45?
I'd be interested to know how that works, I know it will be hopelessly inaccurate in an M1873 Springfield because the bore diameter is larger.
@@GetBritainShooting Not very good. I ended up finding a set of 577 dies and brass from Star and loaded for it. The 45lc was a good idea but was some what a disappointment.
@@redtra236 What I found was better accuracy if you didn't run the soft lead cast bullet through a sizing die and used black powder you got better results. We had a mould that cast a 350gr 454 bullet. Larry made a cone to ad to the mould so we got a sort of hollow bullet we did put in through 45lc sizing die. We did try a steel sleeve for 45-70 but had serious extraction issues. We were looking to market these for a few obsolete rounds so you could use current ammo in adapters.
@@ronrobertson59 That's a shame, although given the difference in bullet diameter it's sort of what I expected!
I handload the 303 and the 32 H&R magnum. It did not take me long to try the 85 gr JHP pistol bullet in the 303 case. I loaded enough Red Dot to hit 1600 fps. It gave 6 inches of violent expansion. Blew open the front of a gallon water jug, but the jacket & core were in the bottom.
So an excellent combo for dispatching varmints/sentries
@@harrisonbuck2749 when my grandson was 12 he was getting bored with 22. He loved shooting those 303's. He had to single load them, but he was fine with that.
I load my 8mm mauser with green dot to stay subsonic with 205 grain bullets. Quiet, brass doesn't get worn, and ends up being as potent as a decent 45acp round.
When i was a kid in the late 70's -80's .303 Enfield sporter was my family's deer/bear rifle . about 10 years back my daughter went to army cadet summer camp . there were shooting full stock enfields converted to .22lr .
We had some Martini .310 Cadets rebarreled for .22LR in our Cadet Corps unit in Australia for shooting off army bases. We shot L1A1's mostly on base though but also some MkIII Browning pistols, F1SMG and in my last year the F88 which had finally fully replaced the L1A1 at that time. I'm guessing we got time on the Browning pistols and F1 as they army had large stocks on 9mm para that they were going to have to get rid of with the F88 coming into service.
Not converted it the no.5 made in 22 I had some in my armskote for the cadets ,
I don't think they're converted, if i recall right .22 Lee Enfields were made as .22s
@@mrcaboosevg6089 Yes they're called the No. 5 I think. They made them for cadet training and the ability to train soldiers on the cheap indoors on the fundamentals of marksmanship.
I use a " Hammond game getter " in my 303. Brass case machined to accept a .22 blank and a sized ball. Great fun! I would certainly be keen to get a .32 adapter as well. Excellent video.
This is very informative, especially over practices by gun owners outside the USA.
We have a similar concept here in the States, using .22LR through our AR15s for training ammo.
Cheers from Oklahoma
Glad you enjoyed it mate! If you're interested in seeing a bit more of shooting and gun ownership in the UK, I've got a few videos coming that I'll be finishing up when I get a few days off work
@@GetBritainShootingdo you have a source for adapters there in the UK?
@@Subgunman I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting. I'm trying to sort out a machinist/RFD here to make me up a batch of them, but this is still in the early stages right now. Do you know anyone who can do them?
@@GetBritainShooting no not where I currently live, this EU country has some of the most crooked politicians and they have made it almost impossible to own a handgun or even just the ammo for it let alone a rifle or it’s ammo. Guess they are paranoid someone will blow them out of office for stealing from the public. Shotguns are OK but again one must undergo a psych screening and must have served in the military here. Well my military service was in the States and I don’t know if it counts but this country is a member of NATO and in my book it’s as good as serving here. At least I graduated with my degree in the states and earned my rank of "Butter bars" if you might know what it means. 30+ years and working my way up the ladder to retirement a few years ago.
There is a "bible" of information called "THE HANDLOADERS MANUAL OF CARTRIDGE CONVERSIONS" AND IT LISTS ALMOST ALL dimensions of modern and obsolete cartridges of the world. With this book you will have all of the external dimensions of most every cartridge out there. With this info any precision machineist who works on small items might machine the internal dimensions of a cartridge while also having info for machining the outside dimensions as well.
I remember seeing shotgun adapters made of stainless steel which have at least a six inch rifled barrel to most common pistol rounds to 12 gauge shotgun BUT OOOOHH WEEEE, the price is close to $200 but they only work in break open shotguns.
Now instead of expensive rifle ammo you can shoot expensive pistol ammo.
I reload, so .32 only costs me about £0.15 a shot, which isnt much more than .22lr here
@GetBritainShooting You're lucky. 32acp is pretty expensive in the states.
Same here in Australia(believe it or not guns aren't banned here...). Funnily enough 303brit is relatively cheap here and i load 303 brit for probably less than this guy loads 32acp!@@WASPfreak
I dont have a Enfield, but it was a entertaining and informative video. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
I have used one of these adapters in my P-14 Enfield and I enjoy shooting with out the noise and kickback.
Had purchased a modified barrel for an enfield years ago. Never did get around to using it. Came from India from what was advertised for the security forces of the Indian government. It was basically a shot out .303 barrel that was bored and cambered for a .410 bore shotgun cartridge.
I've seen them here in the UK bet they're a lot more fun than just owning a deact Enfield and obviously lot easier to get the Shotgun Certificate over here than a firearms.
Indeed have heard of some forces knocking lads back for 'full-bore' guns because their club isn't rated for it.
Even though they explained they would be downloading their own ammo..
@@Ryan.90 the only conversion I did on my enfield was to go with a modern synthetic stock, the wooden original that came with it was cracked and in sad shape. The main firearm was not a collector piece, a hodgepodge of mismatched numbers. Turned out to be a great shooter. The .410 bore barrel was interesting, they had threaded the chamber side of the barrel an additional inch and a half and had included a jam ring similar to what is used on some SAKO rifles, you could take down the barrel from the action and pack it in a smaller pack and when you arrived for the shoot, you would screw in the barrel and use an expended shell to set head spacing and then Use a spanner wrench to tighten down the jam ring.
@@Subgunman nice!
Bought one of those chamber sleeves from Numrich Arms back in the late 1980's for my .308 Mauser Rifle. think i paid around 12 bucks for it. still use it to fire .32acp it's always worked pretty well.
Interesting to hear you using it for a .308, are you running FMJ bullets or cast lead?
@@GetBritainShooting use 71 &73 gr. FMJ .32acp rounds. .32 is 7.65mm .308 is 7.62 so it works out well.
That's a great little device! Definitely help people who might not always have access to a rifle rated range
That's what I was thinking mate, lots of clubs are pistol cals only, with occasional access to full bore ranges. Most people don't even know these are a thing, let alone that they work quite well
In a normal timeline I’d also say it would be cheaper but these days both rounds are rare
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Nothing is that rare if you reload 😉
@@GetBritainShooting a reloading setup alone is expensive, let alone uncommon projectiles such as .311
@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK once you have the basics for one caliber you only need to purchase dies for the next caliber ammo you want to reload. As well as the proper powder and projectiles.
This was a good video thank you. I would recommend loading the insert from the magazine to prevent the extractor from snapping over the rim. The Lee Enfield is control round feeding and not a push feed. You'll still need to feed the neck into the chamber with your thumb but at least your extractor spring won't break. .Maple Leaf Up
I have a couple adaptors. One for my 44 mosin. 32acp out of that gun is like shooting a cap gun. But if you can’t find any 7.62x54r it works. Got one for 1903 Springfield too. Same results. The range I go to I asked them if it was ok. Mostly young people there and not one of them knew about adaptors. Funny!
54r is an excellent option for .32 with it using the same .311 bullet as .303. Most people here have never seen or heard about adapters, even experienced shooters!
@GetBritainShooting I wonder what the effect on velocity is, firing .311 diameter projectiles down a .308 bore? I would think there would be a noticeable increase, due to increased pressure. Do you have any data?
The British army made adapters out of brass cartridges, tapped and drilled out at the back of the cartridge case !! Cheaper to teach people to shoot!!
If this works, you could as well make a whole bunch of them and load them into the magazine 🤔
Awsome! I'm going to make one of these if I end up getting an American Krag.
That could be really cool with a suppressor if there's one for it that can fit on the bayonet lug and muzzle!
I used to have a sporterized No. 5 that I got for a song in the mid 80s. I ended up trading it to a friend for a car, so I can't complain, but this makes me miss it a little. What a great idea!
Thanks mate, glad you liked the video, hopefully you can grab yourself another Enfield!
Cool! I think I will get one, haven't shoot my No.1 Mk III Australian Lee Enfield in a while.
Definitely worth getting mate, they're a great way to get your old enfield's out a little more often
I have 7 SMLE #4's made in Liverpool during 1947. My employer back in early 96 gave me a good price break as they were not selling. I had thoughts of forming a WW2 rifle squad for reenactments. That fell apart when the Mrs. got a better paying job and we moved to another state. I did sporterize one with a composite stock and mounted a scope to it. It's a good deer rifle.
Makes me wonder if you could rechamber that adaptor for a 32 H&R Magnum for a little more power. Might have to Dig out my old SMLE Mkll and give it a try. Easier to get the ammo too.
I did not know chamber adapters were exempt from licensing, that's pretty cool
Most people have no idea, hence I thought the video would be helpful! The exemption list has some interesting stuff on it, makes me sort of want to buy a Greener Harpoon Gun just because they're exempt too 😛
No mention of where you found the adaptor. Thank you for an interesting video.
EDIT: Subbed too!!!!!!!!!!
I got it from a friend who was getting out of shooting, but I've been speaking to some RFDs and machinists about getting a small batch made up for anyone interested
Thanks for subscribing!
@@GetBritainShooting I don't have a No4. But I could see this option being good for those who want a No4 and just want to shoot it on their club 'pistol' range one in a while.
The Shooters Box here in the US has them for various caliber conversions. Currently out of the ones for .303 to .32 ACP though.
@@panzerabwerkanone Thank you. I have tracked somebody down here who makes them for £50-ish a go.
So, with it ejecting the adapter, could you load a full magazine of them, firing as normal, and only poking out the spent cases later?
I've been doing this for some years, with a chamber adaptor I made for 308. I also load gallery rounds for a number of rifle chamberings.
I find it impossible to get better than a 3" group at 25yds with 100grn 32 pistol bullets. As I have the feeling it is just not possible to push them fast enough to get them to stabilise, on ranges where 1706fps is the limit. However loading jacketed bullets and pushing them faster, on an outdoor range that allows higher velocities, then they group acceptably at 50yds.
It might work better in rifles with faster twists.
I'm also in the UK. And I use loading data from the Lyman Cast Bullets Manual. I consider these to be loadings in their own right, rather than downloaded ammunition. I argue that it is exactly the same as using 38spl rounds in a 357mag rifle. Or the use of 357 'Cowboy' loadings (factory made reduced loads).
I'm impressed.....
Interesting video. Would really love one of these. Be great to be able to use the Enfield at my local club range.
Did you get any joy with having some made? If not, I have access to a local precision engineering company who could make them. Of course they would need accurate dimensions to make them. Do you know if the inside is just bored or is it a honed finish?
It's interesting. For me, here in Louisiana USA, it would be kind of unnecessary. But I really like learning about the issues that gun owners in your country have to deal with.
Glad you enjoyed the video mate! Shooting in the UK certainly has it's challenges, but I also think a lot of people are surprised by some of the kit we can get hold of here. You can see some of the other guns in my collection on my channel
Or could load your own low pressure .303 rounds.
Never seen them stopping that.
So the shotgun adapters are exempt?
I thought you would need a FAC.
As a kid, I used to buy these rifles through the mail for a song. Sold or traded them all. The only thing
I remember about them when you squeezed the trigger it would kick the hell out of you.
They're cracking old rifles, getting hard to find a decent one these days though. If you want a good kick, try a Jungle Carbine!
you may also be interested in the DeLile carbine - a lee Enfield rebarreled to fire 45ACP with a suppresser
There are one or two companies here in the UK who make exact copies of the Delisle thanks to some help from the guys at the pattern room. One is definitely on my list to pick up!
The .327 Federal Mag is .312 diameter as well. I would love a chamber insert to shoot either caliber in my five Lee Enfields. It would be great for my grandson to learn on as he is not ready for full power battle rifles yet.
.327 mag would certainly work I'd think! .32 ACP makes sense here though as getting ammo and reloading components for it is relatively easy. I've let several new shooters try this rifle with the adapter, it's a great way to let people enjoy shooting milsurp stuff without it being too hard on them!
Realy had us there in the beginning
I like the .32 cal. The biggest problem with it is the relatively short drop off but, as long as you are using it in a close quarters capacity, that doesn’t present a problem. In this application, I’d be interested to know how many feet per second the round picks up in the longer barrel of the rifle.
A few people have asked me that, I'll have to shoot it over the chronograph and see how much extra velocity it picks up!
Very interesting video...thanks for sharing! This is an old idea rehashed...the Lee enfield had a sleeve made for it to fire a small pistol type center fire cartridge for use with cadets etc...as far as I know this small cartridge wasnt used in any other firearm?...to get them used to the gun/noise etc. I actually found a few of these small cartridges whilst metal detecting an old military camp and could never figure out what firearm they were used in until I seen one picture of them in an old book of firearms that told the whole story of the small round. It's a small bottlenecked pistol type round...center fired .22? I've never came across this round in my travels again and no one seems to know much about it...I do have the book/history of this round somewhere and will dig it up at some point if anyone would like to comment/see it?
Cool rifle
Id think it would be possible to make a mag with forward lips so you could load 10 adapters in a mag. I enjoyed 303 rifles back when i shot and bought several atrocious rifles cheap. Purely so I had extra magazines.
Curious as to how the adapter would feed, should you have a few of them. Should you be able to fix the cartridge inside the adapter using a teflon or something similar.
Beautifully informative video mate!
It doesn't.
Excellent video, this is great way of shooting on smaller ranges as well as shooting older rifles with cheaper ammo and with less strain on the gun.
Out of interest, where did you get the adaptor from ??
I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting, but I'm working on having a small batch made up! If you keep an eye on the channel I'll post another video about them for those who are interested
@@GetBritainShootingAwesome stuff, I'll keep an eye out!!
Great vid! very useful, i would like to use my No4 more often and this looks like a great way to get more use out of it. However i have searched the internet and cant find any chamber adaptors for sale in the UK. Can you tell me where you got your .303 to .32 adapter?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! They're relatively rare in the UK it seems, I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting. I'm working on having a machinist/RFD I know make up a small batch for anyone interested though, if you keep an eye on the channel I'll put something out on here when they're ready!
Thank you, ill keep watching! @@GetBritainShooting
Can you shoot .32 S&W long or .32 H&R Magnum with this adapter? Seems like you should be able to unless the .32 ACP being semi rimmed vs fully rimmed is an issue. Also do you know if one is available for .32 WCF? I have a Lee Enfield and a .32 WCF(.32-20) revolver and rifle it'd be neat to be able to use it in the Lee Enfield. And last if you have multiple adapters can you load them into the mag and feed them like normal .303 rounds?
The adapter will feed from the mag but you have to be careful and run the bolt slowly, and even then it's not 100%. I'm going to see about getting a spare Enfield mag to tweak the feed lips on to see if I can get it running perfectly! Also in the process of getting a few more adapters made up
No reason why you couldn't use any of the other .32's, .32 ACP makes sense here though as ammo and loading components are fairly easily available
@@GetBritainShooting The main thing is here in the states most factory .32 ACP ammo is loaded with .308 diameter bullets which usually gets poor accuracy out of lee enfields even at very short ranges. Of course we can handload it with .312 dia bullets. But also .32 ACP is pretty weak even out of a long barrel for hunting small game a .32 H&R or even .327 magnum would be more ideal. That and I know handguns are fairly heavily regulated in the UK so this probably doesn't apply there but there's a lot of people that have .32 S&W long handguns and even a fair amount of .32 H&R magnums. Personally I have a Hopkins and Allen .32 S&W Short top break revolver that my great grandfather bought around 1905 so I have a fair amount of that ammo. Which leading could become a bit of an issue I suppose with cast bullets but as long as proper cleaning is done it should be ok I'd think, can't be any worse than black powder.
@@redtra236 Ah in that case, .32 H&R or S&W would probably make more sense there, I'm certain it would work, you'd just need the rear of the adapter chambered appropriately.
As far as leading goes, even after quite a bit of shooting with lead bullets it hasn't been difficult to clean, a bit of boretech and a good brush does the job in minutes
Would you not need a separate slot for 32acp ? In then USA it’s be easy, here in the uk every calibre needs a separate slot and a use
You don't need a slot for a .32 ACP rifle, as the rifle is still a .303, however you do need to have .32 added to your ammunition table so you can buy/load it legally
The up and down staggered grouping is from your breathing incorrectly. Overall not a bad group. In the US many of woodsmen who hunt will often carry a small caliber side arm or a set up like this to dispatch small game when the big game (deer) aren't showing themselves. I often depending on where I'm hunting and distances will run a side by side shotgun. One side with a rifled slug choke to shoot slugs accurately, and the other side as number 4 birdshot, and depending on whatever shows up first is how I do it.
That is cool! Would be fun in my Lee Enfield No.5 which I don't shoot much anymore. Get a magazine full of them so you don't need to keep reloading each shot!
I wonder if a brass would work for the adapter, just to reduce a bit of wear on this.
Brass would certainly reduce the wear in the chamber versus the stainless steel adaptor. Easy enough to turn up on a lathe if you have one and the skill to do it of course!
These will not feed.
What are the FAC implications of possesion of yhe chamber adaptor? Do these need to be on your FAC. Also. You'd need .32 ACP on your fac too to possess the ammunition?
As I mentioned in the video mate, chamber adapters do not need to be listed on your FAC, there's a clip in there highlighting the relevant bit from the licensing guidance. You do need to get .32 ammo listed on your ticket though, but that's very straightforward as it's just another calibre you can shoot in the same firearm, much like shooting .38 in a .357
@@GetBritainShooting ah ok. I'll watch it again. I must have missed that. 👍🏻
Its only about 50c per round cheaper here (down under) to shoot 32acp than 303brit. If you hand load 303 brit its cheap as chips, thankfully i purchased a heap of projectiles years ago for bugger all and have 100's of cases so it costs me maybe 30c to load a round, i probably wont shoot it all out any time soon short of a zombie apocalypse! Ive dabbled with pistol projectiles and lighter loads as well with varying results, often they don't like feeding from the mag.
...brilliant idea!!!😀
Glad you liked it mate!
What I'm looking for is a bolt-action rifle that takes .357 magnum and .38 special. I see plenty that are single-shot but none that have magazines. That would pair very nicely with my Ruger SP101 revolver.
At the moment I use a PM9 and a Hi-Point995 as my pistol caliber pairing.
Check out the Ruger M77-357, they're magazine fed and very accurate little rifles. Super quiet if you suppress it and use heavy subsonics too
@@GetBritainShooting Yes, I'd seen that listed in various places. Sadly, none appear to be in stock anywhere. Sadly to use a suppressor I'd need to pay a $200 tax as well as the over-inflated price for a tube filled with washers.
Wah? " i use to have" geez. Anyway, top mak for this. I makes it vry useful .
Can you buy the adapter? I would love to get one
nope MY enfield has a .308 diameter bore.... i found that out when i hand loaded a .312 projectile and the pressure spike blew out my extractor spring....
Be interesting to see what MV the 32 is doing out of the long barrel
The fastest commercially available .32 ACP ammunition is from RBCD (RIP ammo), which is rated at 1,815 f/s out of a pistol, firing a 37 grain (!) bullet - quite a bit lighter than the typical 55-75 grain .32 ACP round. 271 ft-lbf muzzle energy, out of a pistol barrel.
While lightweight, and designed to explode inside a target, the high velocity out of a rifle barrel (presumably higher than out of a pistol barrel) would likely make it an excellent vermin (not varmint) round. You won't be blasting prairie dogs at 300 yards like a .220 Swift, but for rats, coyotes, rabid animals, garden pests at ranges of 100 yards or less, it should be up in the 2,000 f/s range out of the muzzle, and humanely dispatch the interlopers.
After all, .22 Magnum is in the same muzzle velocity and bullet weight range, but with 1/2 the frontal area of the .32 ACP, and nothing like the explosively fragmenting RIP round.
30 super carry adapter would be nice wonder when that'll happen.
Where can you buy the chamber adapters in the UK? Google isn't bringing up much
I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting, but I'm in the process of getting a small batch more made by an RFD/machinist I know. Keep an eye on the channel and I'll put something out once they're done!
Could you use multiple of them and load them in the magazine? Would they feed and cycle?
So it will sort of feed from the magazine, I've found that if I'm careful and run the bolt slowly, it will feed maybe 8 or 9 times out of 10. I'm getting a few extras made up, so I'll make another video testing if I can run a few through the mag
This would be quite good for rifle and pistol clubs.
So cool .. first time I seen that 😄
Glad you enjoyed the video mate!
Can you use the chamber adapter over and over again or would you need a few of them
I'd expect as long as you clean it occasionally you can use it almost forever, I've shot hundreds of rounds through this one
When you put the sling on a No.4 it's standard practice to put the claws facing outwards. That way they don't scratch the woodwork. In wartime pictures you'll see them put on any which way but the training pamphlets say claws outwards.
Where did the chamber adaptor come from, btw?
Well spotted, I must have been a bit careless when I last put it on.
I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting, though I know one or two gunsmiths who are looking at making them since I showed them this one
oh look the sling police have turned up ...😂
@@mdog1615 OMG... the Sob Sisters have shown up because somebody mentioned how all the Commonwealth nations installed the sling on these rifles!
HOW DARE THAT INFORMATION BE SHARED!!!!!
Neat!! I assume, should you want to invest in several adapters, you could load a whole magazine up with .32ACP 'cartridges' and thus cycle through the whole magazine before re-loading them? No doubt expensive, but good fun, and keeps you from breaking the aim position for a competiton?
Lovely rifle btw. 😊
Cheers mate! I'm working on getting a few more made up, as well as modifying a spare .303 magazine so they feed more reliably from the mag. If I can get it to run well I'll post another video on here
I could see a heavy block of wood with a six inch nail sticking out of it sat on the bench being useful for that case removal (Maybe grind the end flat in case of clumsy people). Nice video though and a good idea to get more widespread. Shame they won't feed but you can't have everything.
That's not a bad idea actually! Glad you enjoyed the video. I have wondered if I could get a spare magazine for the rifle and modify it to make the adapters feed from it more reliably, but that's a longer term project!
@@GetBritainShooting I couldn't check at the time I wrote that last comment but I have done now and - better still: A No.4 spike bayonet will go into a fired 303 case far enough that I should think it would work in your adaptor to clear the fired .32 case. Screw the bayonet to a nice stand for your bench. Winner!. (Again - don't fall on it!)
@@TheWirksworthGunroom Now that's a great idea, I definitely have a spike bayonet knocking around somewhere in my gun room, I'll have to try it out!
Thanks for posting. Would be great if they came in a multi-pack. $350 to fire a full magazine is a bit much.
Is there one for a 9mm for the 303 or is the diameter to big to fit
9mm bullet diameter would be too large unfortunately!
I'v had good results up to 100yds with 303 case and cast lead bullets and seven grains of Vhit 320 ( no filler ) and the bullet doesn't have to travel all the " freebore " of the dummy .
In the past I did a LOT of cast bullet shooting. I was reaching out to about 400 yds so I was using medium burning powders (Vhit N110) so, initially, filler was not really an issue. However a friend had his Lee Enfield blow on 8 grains of Unique! Even if you don't have this issue a Kapok filler will give you more consistency and eliminate the chance of detonation. Just my experiences, happy shoting.
Reduced power loads are a great option, but I've found many ranges these days prohibit them. Obviously the chances of mixing in a full power round is significantly reduced with cast lead, but some still have a blanket ban
I've yet to find anywhere that's had an issue with .32
From speaking to non shooters who want to get involved in the hobby, what's the greatest hurdle they've cited as stopping them ?
Two main things it seems, the first being they don't know or understand what the process is to actually get a license, and the second being they assume that you can't have anything other than a side by side or over/under type shotgun, so they're not that interested. I'm hoping to change some of that with this channel, I'm working on a video at the moment about how to get started and get your FAC!
@@GetBritainShooting Thanks. Exactly what I'm doing with my channel over here in Ireland. Trying to clear away the misconceptions and maybe even bring our licencing authority ( an garda siochana) kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Love your uploads. Keep them coming.
Looking at the cost of .303 ammo in NZ, I am kinda tempted to try this...
Definitely worth giving a go if you can mate!
That makes a nice rook rifle
Question - would this also work in a P14 in .303?
Absolutely! You'll have to play around with the elevation to see what works, but you can use my adjustment as a starting point. I've had my best result using lead bullets, but as you can see from the video, FMJ is still quite decent
@@GetBritainShooting thanks man, much appreciated
@@stealmysunshine no worries mate!
Where can you purchase these inserts. I live in South Africa.
Well I'm working on having a small batch made to sell to anyone interested, however I'm not sure on what the rules would be for shipping and adapter to South Africa?
@@GetBritainShooting Same as purchasing a silencer
It also Fire's 410 cartridges
cool I suppose you could use it for small game too ...
Absolutely, I expect it'd be very effective on rabbits etc at moderate distances!
Would it be possible to use 10 of them and load into the magazine?
So it will sort of feed from the magazine, I've found that if I'm careful and run the bolt slowly, it will feed maybe 8 or 9 times out of 10. I'm getting a few extras made up, so I'll make another video testing if I can run a few through the mag
@@GetBritainShooting that would definitely be interesting to see.
Bloody expensive, that - the adapters are $30.00 each here in the US.
On another note, I'd no idea that the UK required you to list every bolt and washer you're "permitted" by the ruling class to have. So used to the arguments here in the US, in the Left-wing "progressive" states over whether or not you should be "permitted" Constitutional (open) carry for machine guns, and other variants on our protected-from-infringement Second Amendment right.
Different worlds, for sure; that level of state parentalism would never work in the US war zone's active conflict with the cartel armies of Latin America. Limiting citizen rights to self-defense certainly proved a failed policy in Israel, to the detriment and torturous deaths of over a thousand helpless Israeli citizens at the hands of the Hamas troglodytes. They're smarter now.
@@MrGsteele Don't get him in trouble man they revoked another British youtuber's firearms certificate a while back because of comments like this on his channel. Believe me they are watching they monitor everything. I'm just glad the surveillance hasn't gotten this out of hand in the US yet
@@redtra236 Tragic - but if you think that we're more than another Democrat administration away from the same oppression, it might be worth a second look.
I wonder why they didn't just do this instead of single shot 22 training rifles during the war.
I can only imagine with the weight of that gun compared to what a 32 would normally be fired out of, that the recoil would be less than a pellet gun.
There is basically no recoil and very little noise! I've let kids learning to shoot try this rifle with .32 ammo, it's a great way for them to try a milsurp rifle without worrying about recoil
@@GetBritainShooting Also I'm wondering if you had enough of those adapters to fill one of the clips, would they chamber using the bolt, and fire like the normal ammo?
@@aarongreenfield9038 So it will sort of feed from the magazine, but you have to run the bolt slowly and be careful. I'm going to get a few more and give it a try from the magazine
ok but what if I get 10 and jam them in the magazine?
So it will sort of feed from the magazine, you have to be careful and run the bolt slowly though. If you got a spare mag and modified the feed lips for use with the adapters it could probably be fairly reliable
Would be cool if you had 5 of these adapters with 5 rounds of 32acp on a stripper clip ready. Would be much cheaper to shoot
wasnt aware of this one...
Not too many people are it seems! Glad you found the video useful
Wish there was an option for this in the k98 and m1 garand
If you reload you could potentially make it work for the M1 by loading slightly smaller diameter bullets? Maybe like a .309 meant for 7.63 Mauser? Obviously it wouldn't cycle of course
There was an adapter made for the M1 Garand that allowed you to fire .308. It was a short neck spacer that you could secure with Red Locktite in the chamber of the firearm.
I had a couple of these chamber adapters made up to shoot .45 long colt through a .577/450 Martini rifle. Works, but accuracy is terrible. Still; much cheaper than firing proper rounds @ US $7.00 per round!
I've seen those adapters for .577/450, but I think .45 colt is just a little undersized to really engage the rifling on the martini
I'm in the middle of converting some magtech 24g brass shotshells into .577/450, should make it a bit less pricey to shoot mine!
If you have a martini you really gotta reload your brass. I would recommend getting a .456 mold for a ruger old army and trying it. .453 is too small for most .45 cal rifles.
Best to slip the adaptor under the extractor or it will grind it away as it is meant for soft brass or steel not hardened stainless... maybe.
Yeah it could be a problem after about 20,000 rnds
You would know all about that. @@guaporeturns9472
No different than shooting steel cased ammo, probably not even as bad because it doesn't expand like normal steel casing.
@@redtra236 Steel doesn’t expand much , and the head/rim area where the extractor is doesn’t expand at all , I think 🤔
@@guaporeturns9472 The head/rim doesn't expand, but the rest of the case does which makes it harder to extract thus putting more stress on the extractor. But this adapter shouldn't be expanding at all.
Doesn’t that hammer out the headspace?
No issues with it at all
Muzzle velocity? Muzzle energy?
Honestly I've never checked, I'll have to try it over the chrono!
Where do you get one today?
I got this one from a friend who was getting out of shooting, but I'm working on having a small batch of them made up, I'll make a video about those and anyone interested can grab one for themselves
Would be awesome to hold many of them like normal rounds.
You can sort of get it to feed from the magazine if you're careful, but it's not as reliable as normal .303 obviously
Unfortunately .32acp ammo in the USA is made with undersized FMJ bullets of only .308 diameter. I reloaded some with projectiles of .312 diameter and they shot very accurately @25 yds thru my 7.65 mm Mauser pistol.
That's a shame the factory ammo there uses such undersized bullets! Out of curiosity, what brands of .32 are available there? The only factory .32 I usually see here is S&B, which seems to shoot just fine
@@GetBritainShooting I have used PPU and Fiottchi in FMJ.
@@robertrobert7924both PPU and FIOCCHI are made in Europe, PPU in Serbia and FIOCCHI in Italy. I have shot FIOCCHI ammo out of my 7.65mm walther with excellent accuracy.
@@UHOH3300 FIOCCHI, USA has a plant in America. I know PPU is from Serbia, but their .32acp FMJ sold in America uses a .308 bullet. My 7.65mm Walther PP circa 1970 will not chamber .312 rounds. So I have to use PPU .308 rounds. At what distance are you shooting with your Walther and what year was it made ?
Get your rabbit for Hassenpfeffer?
You have an interesting accent. Sounds like a hybrid mix of american and English
Funny enough I did live in the states for a few years a while back, couldn't get a permanent visa though so here I am! I do miss living there though
@GetBritainShooting same. I was in New Jersey and loved the positivity and freedom there compared to here. I have an m1889 but there are no clubs for me to take it to anywhere near me so it gathers dust lol
@@MrRedeyedJediif you think New Jersey was free, try one of our freer states down south or in the west (minus the western coast.)
@UHOH3300 yeah I am aware. I'd like to live in Texas, oklahoma or kentucky.
Should have made it able to shoot 30 carbine. Won't work on worn out barrels since it's a .307 bullet but way better than 32 acp
The issue is .30 carbine is not allowed on many ranges which are limited to pistol cals only, the idea of this was to be able to use the rifle on ranges you couldn't otherwise!
I had an Enfield just like that and had to sell it. Was young and broke...
Sounds like it's time to pick up a new one!
That would be a rotten group from a No.8 rifle at 25 yards so the development of the No.8 is perhaps explained!
I use sw long for this the magnum is to long
Great for the rabbit or grouse that show up when you are deer hunting.
I would think it would be very hard to find .32 pistol ammo in the UK since you can’t own a pistol anymore
I’m in the USA and I have a surplus US Air Force adapter that allows me to shoot .22 in my AR15. Just open up the gun and replace the bolt with the assembly. Takes a 10 round white nylon magazine
Is dependable and pretty accurate at 25 yards it’s shoots to point of aim using my Eotech
To be fair you can still find .32 in some shops here, it's popular for humane dispatch pistols still. You can still get normal handguns in some circumstances, I've just had my S7 approved for historic pistols, currently shopping for a C96 Broomhandle Mauser and a Luger, so will make a video about those soon!
Is your AR adapter one of the ones with the chamber adapter and replacement bolt all in one assembly then! I've seen a handful like that over here
@@GetBritainShooting yes you just take out the bolt and replace it with the adapter assembly which has the chamber adapter on the front. Works great.
I have a nothing special WWII Luger but have a WWI red nine C96 that I got from the WWII vet that shot the old guy that was using it at the end of WWII to kill two Americans. Has the capture papers
Is a very accurate pistol to shoot and dead reliable too
Surprised how quiet that was (I only shoot shitguns)
Fgs sort that sling out!! It’s on the wrong way round!
Sorry I thought you were going to turn a 303 rifle into a pistol.
I wish I'd not sold my no4 now.
Sounds like a good excuse to pick up another one mate!
@@GetBritainShooting it's certainly got me thinking about it, there's enough room in the cabinet for one.
@@sherwoodforester4666 Time to get a .303 slot I reckon! You just need to add the .32 ammo onto your ammunition table
@@GetBritainShooting Yep, a bloke at our club is selling one as it happens,its time save some cash. I own a martini can you get adapters for those? I'm thinking something like 45 long colt loaded with black powder would be awesome.
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