I Ranked EVERY HAND CANNON in Destiny 2 (2023)
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This video ranks EVERY legendary and exotic Hand Cannon into definitive tiers that will help you decide which ones are best for you in the Crucible, for 2023.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:36 - PvE + Ranking Criteria
1:50 - Sponsor: Manscaped
3:08 - The Bad
5:48 - The Okay
9:58 - The Good
15:09 - The Great
20:33 - The Elite - เกม
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I love the idea I saw of making 180’s into 200 rpm. I would love for Trust to be more competitive just because as you alluded to, it *feels* so great.
15% not 25% for Lumina in PvP
Yo dude what about my feverite hand canon !!! The Crimil's dager from Iron banner ???
Not sunset 2 taper and good range good handling & i dont talk about the skin ( best look hand canon to me )
Spare ratoions
Zaoulis or Raviolis bane is actually pretty good and fun to use when playing pve tho incandescent and explosive payload makes it fun I think it deserves a tier higher than bad but I see why u did so
Austringer with zen Moment and max stability literally does not get flinched. Its incredible.
Got it levelled, with enhanced perks, it has crazy stats, but for some reason if just feels off..
Negative flinch lol
I'll try that
@@50centi probably bc you have no range at all
Wish I got that roll or enough red borders to get it craftable, so glad they changed that horrible red boarder system.
More of this Ahoy aesthetic! Heck, at some point I bet you're gonna make videos of the detailed lore and history of every notable piece of gear in the game.
That's what this feels like! Couldn't put my finger on it. We need three descriptors after every weapon now
I was gonna comment this as well!
Halfway through the intro, I was expecting he imitate Ahoy's voice as well LOL. Keep this up Nomad!
Wow I missed that channel. Such great reviews and videos it had. I didn’t even realize watching this
@@jpmorgan6146 he still uploads
I feel so special now knowing that Nomad noted that Sturm is “not for everyone.” I swear by that weapon. It is a glorious piece of golden age tech. I am one of the few left.
doesnt even need an exotic perk for me, it just feels good. dont care at all about the synergy, the stat package punches way above its weight class
Sturm is goofy, inn a good way. Love getting that 40k damage lol
@@viviolet7 exactly bro. Every stat feels perfect, it doesnt lack there at all (not even the slow reload, that glorious custom reload animation is so nice to watch). Its just all around a fantastic hand cannon. It has no downsides, while at the same time not doing anything particularly special. Its just straight up good.
Sturm is my favorite handcannon, love everything about it
@@OkamiAmaterasu. you and me together bro, every time i equip it i magicaly start hitting headshots
My favorite PvE hand cannon from way back: Duke Mk. 44 I had one with Outlaw/Rampage, so fun to use that I raked up over 16k on it. Now Crimson is about the only PvE hand cannon, since it's basically a pulse with heals and reloads.
YOOOOO someone remembers this thing, I adored that weapon's damage output.
The Duke was the best 120 to use in destiny 1 and 2. I’m sad it’s been sunset into nonexistence and 120s aren’t that strong without high damage perks
Does no one care about sunshot anymore?
It's nice to see other fans of the Duke.
I garnered so many PvP kills with my Rapid-Hit/Rampage Duke. (Albeit, back when Rampage Damage was insane on 120's)
The Gun just sounds and feels great, the Range was outstanding, and it was a sure threat to anyone who wanted to tango with a Precision-Seeking Maniac like me.
I just wish they'd bring it back...
I absolutely adore pure poetry and steady hand.
Also, don't discount how huge the passive AE that air assault grants is. With Icarus and one grounded kill you hit 70 on PP, an airborne kill you hit 100. It's beautiful
Commenting at 1:44 before the tier list gets underway: Hawkmoon with champ mods is probably the most fun I have with a handcannon and I highly recommend it to anyone who either wants to or actively enjoys handcannons in PvE. Brownie points if you say "Ka-kaw!" as you let the charged bullet fly
fr. I fully accept its not great, not compared to what exists in the kinetic slot. But its really really fun
@@BcDyxaLKgoNdgU Season of the Splicer had overload handcannon, and my squad and I all ran Hawkmoon in the Glassway GM, it was the most effective way for us to take out the overload captains at the time, and dealt consistent damage to the big boy hydra at the end
as a native, I kaw loudly each time it goes off. This is the way.
I don't hit my shots enough to make use of hawkmoon and its big boy shot :(
RAAAAAAAAĤHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅
zaouli’s with incandescent and explosive payload makes it a legendary sunshot, letting you use other exotics
Use it with witherhoard and boom, one pve loadout for everything.
@@thesolersystemofgames841 or with Riptide Chill Clip and boom, heavy exotic slot possible
no
@@aesfeieienxas1925 ooh thats good too
Erianna’s Vow with Lucky Pants is legit goated in PvE. So is Malfeasance if you’re gonna cheese something from a safe spot where you will expend all your heavy and special quickly.
For anyone trying this keep in mind that Vow has a custom interaction with Luck Pants and gets a smaller damage buff than other hand cannons.
@@IntetDreamer Still deals great damage
It does, but it’s hard to hit shots overall and it honestly doesn’t seem to melt as fast as Malfeasance. Plus u have to to run solar with Vow which isn’t bad but doesn’t free up better builds like Strand and Stasis
I prefer saving the exotic slot and using second seraph with vorpal and a major mod. Let’s me use le monarche for overloads or another exotic.
@@IntetDreamer It still far exceeds any primary Hand Cannon
Is it just me or as much I would like to use a handcannon I just can’t? Especially low stability ones? God how I’d just be using ace of spades every day..
There’s definitely a learning curve that’s for sure, as a hand cannon addict I really don’t know what works for me until I try it, sunshot is gorgeous for me but I could not stand the new palindrome, fatebringer is my baby but I can never use ace consistently, I’m only now getting used to 120’s and even then round Robin is the cream of the crop for me, just experiment and see what works for you
I mean tbf it's not a great meta for hcs rn
Yeah, I never use hand cannons before now I have to because of unstoppable champions
@@LaLloronaVT It's the opposite for me. I love ace and palindrome. My adept palindrome from season of the chosen is my favorite energy weapon. I just can't use fatebringer, idk why.
Opposite for me, I can't stand using anything that isn't a handcannon
Zaoulis bane is impacted mostly by the gun model itself. The bulky gun model with the strange upward tilt of the visual recoil and the floaty iron sights just make it so difficult to use and get used to even in pve
It has bad stats by comparison to other weapons in slot
Honestly the weird feeling to me is mainly because of the 88 recoil, but this is easily fixed by a a counterbalance mod which helps a lot.
Gun works just fine for me
i got an explosive payload incandescent one and it is literally a legendary SunShot, ive been using it in both pvp and pve
@@matthewyarnevich3119 I love this roll for my solar hunter but the gun sucks in pvp
*Nomad talking about how palindrome is annoyingly good*
Me: He's gonna mention Red Bull, wait for it... THERE IT IS hahaha
Great vid as always, thanks for the entertainment, I really like your style :D
Always appreciate a hand cannon tier list. Hyped for tomorrow
you're the first d2 channel i've seen with a truly standout writing/commentary style, keep it up ♥
I really liked my crafted zhaoli's bane in PvE mainly for explosive payload and incandescent, but after getting that hand cannon from the veil quest I realized just how bad it felt
Love the editing and voiceover, thought I was watching an Ahoy video about some famous weapon in media. Keep it up!
FINALLY! I was trying to look for one of your (Ascendant Nomad) "tier lists" for Hand Cannons but there wasn't one so I'm happy it appeared in my recommended feed
Really like the section splash screen style ("The Bad", "The Good", etc)
While I love rapid hit+rampage, I completely get the description you gave on Trust. It feels good to shoot even if it's not the best of the bunch. I had a hard time putting it down even after I got Luna's Howl back in the day!
Always love your content nomad from game sense 101 to now. Keep up the good work
I have never watched your videos and only see your takes on Twitter… but this is an awesome video, good info, background music, with good gameplay and a splash of humor. Well done!
Crimson was a sleeper for so long !
Nomad rankings always go crazy
On a scale of 1-mad, how Waking Vigil are you?
A right triangle with an angle of blue and grapes.
Mad at Bungie for not buffing its stats. Dire Promise almost suffers from the same problem but it feels good.
Feeling kinda Austringer tbh
1. Waking Vigil feels bad and should feel bad. (Supermodel look and sound tho)
@@Darkhouse999 I feel the same way, I hope that they also transition the stats of Thorn in the future
this type of videos are the best, thank you
Did you try Ikelos Hc with Golden Tricorn/Offhand Strike? That's a long lasting three tap damage buff for a good ttk at great ranges while hip firing, which is already extremely accurate.
Take another look at Malfeasance. It now has a catalyst that adds 20 range and vorpal
Love the content! The dedication in the quality you give the community. Please consider a top tier pop filter. You deserve it. 😊😊
Great list! I have a few Roses but my favourite has slideshot and explosive payload. I have a True Prophecy with opening shot and explosive payload... happy to see that I farmed the right Hand Cannons.
I am currently farming Gambit for Malfeasance... and just got sunshot which I am loving but testing it out before I bring it into the Crucible.
Also, got a midnight Coup with Firefly and Rampage which is lovely when you get rampage going (which is easy to do because of FF)
I have a few others on your list except AOS and Last Word. But after this video, I think it's time to add them to my hand cannon collection as well.
I normally disagree with most Tier Listings, but.. I can't. Everything you listed fits perfectly and what is what I would place each of them in the exact same spots. My baby Ace getting the respect it deserves. Your summation of Palindrome was also interesting but accurate, it's a gun so good it's like watching a Storm Trooper go up against Darth Vader in his prime just to be absolutely demolished.
I love Hand Cannons and this list was accurate. Great job, Nomad.
I have a timelost fatebringer with a range masterwork, hammerforged, accurized explosive and eye of the storm.. I’ve never had a handcannon that felt that great
He clearly never used it
love the effort that you put into your content
Really appreciate that you got pvp gameplay for every single one. Good stuff 👍
I like to use my crafted Zahoulis Bane with enhanced explosive payload and incandescent in pve content, and its feels great. However, i never wanna use it in grandmaster-esque content cause i prefer longer range primarys
Hand Cannons on Hunter with Lucky Pants always have a place in PvE, even if it's just Eriana's Vow. Crimson + Lucky Pants + Strand has been my default build since the Hand Cannon buff.
crimson/the last word/officer revolver would be better for that
@@dankerbell maybe you should have read my entire comment
@@dankerbell I will vouch for Last Word in particular, especially on fun factor
I’ve always used Last Word + Lucky Pants, but after a while it kinda gets stale. I’ll try Crimson and Eriana’s though.
@@migultantamco Malfeasance with its Vorpal Weapon catalyst is 100% the way to go now.
Thank you... kindly from a fellow hand cannon lover. I just discovered sunshot and I look forward to testing it in PVP. New sub!
"The only real reasons to use a hand cannon are personal enjoyment, and dank memes involving lucky pants"
*chuckles in Lucky Pants+Crimson*
I think fatebringer is elite but other than that a damn good list. Thanks for putting this together
It's definitely one of the best
Its literally arguably the best HC in the kinetic, on a shortlist with Austringer and rose why is it not elite wtf
@@jordanhelton1675 bc the flashlight can annoy a lot of people. personally i don’t find an issue with it tho. although, i find it harder to hit consistent three taps with ep fatebringer compared to a ep rose
No rangefinder means not elite automatically, season 22 will change this
@@SALMONCATCHER11 Fate is better already than all rangefinder handcannons. EP gives flinch, aoe, magnetism, less damage falloff, whilst fatebringer itself reaches 33m without rangefinder and also has eye of the storm.
I see you were also working on the glaive tier list as well. Nice. 😎
My god, this video is like, perfect. The whole thing is perfect
Sunshot absolutely has a place in pve for add clear
Could not disagree more on Trust. I’ve been using it nonstop since getting snapshot explosive and it is insane
exactly, that and VEPECULA in the okay column??? i cant take this seriously
All 180s are subpar by virtue of a 1s ttk with comparatively mediocre range
It's not the feel. It's just the practical usefulness. Four shot unboosted ttk is 1s, and unlike 120's with the same tkk, they don't reach as far or hit as hard
Let’s go another great vid, time to choose my hand cannon!
im happy with dire promise's placement. it was my first legendary gun, my first masterwork weapon, and the only kinetic gun i ran until beyond light (i started playing just before season of the lost and cross platform)
Only one I hard disagree with is Dire Promise. As far as I know it had one of if not the highest aim assist out of all 140s, on top of having solid perks and a great reticle. You can also roll different reticles on it so it can get higher zoom than other 140s.
No hand cannon reticles grant zoom. Dire is slim and steady, feels better almost all other handcannona, but you haven't lived until you've fired eyasluna with whatever combination tickles your fancy. Dire is great, but it's power crept
Bottom dollar is underated in this list, with insane perk combos like rangefinder and explosive payload, it has the highest range out of any 120 hand cannon in the game. It feels good to use, has a clean sight, and a good origin trait, yeah you have to play gambit to get it, but that shouldn't affect it on the tier list as a god roll of it is just incredible.
great commentary
Great video, Crimson would definitely be my favorite.
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HILARIOUS football reference, god its nice to hear some British culture references in a sea of American creators, I will assume you are a Liverpool fan by the comment made in your video, if so know that the mighty Tottenham hotspur will be marching on into a year full of trophies next season ;)
I love the sky high optimism that comes with the rampant, incessant denial that stems from being a Spurs fan LMAO
Love the vid. I’m a PvE main who is getting tired of running the same activities over again, and now I feel better about loading up for my next comp match so I don’t absolutely choke my next game
Yes, my baby is in Elite! Eyasluna was the first legendary HC I fell in love with in Crucible. With Rangefinder and Moving Target, this puppy dances in my hand (and no, I don't think the change/nerf to Rangefinder is gonna hurt it).
I like the clean style editing and graphics.
YES FINALLY A NEW ASCENDANT NOMAD TIER LIST
Was wanting to pick this back up now I can have the time to play again glad to hear my number one best hand cannon took me from below ten kills to over 20 deaths to mid 20's with less than 10 deaths Ace of Spades my boy
Great video
i just found this channel and man i like it
my perpetual motion + moving target Eyasluna (stability mw) is by far the best hand cannon I've ever used. perfect
on your opening remarks me and my friend have been having fun with hawkmoon and malfeasance repectively for boss dmg when we didnt have any power ammo or supers
I miss my Trust, I never used it for PVP, not really, but it dropped with dragonfly and a few others. I had so much fun getting headshots and making them explode.
Picked up Eriana's Vow at the beginning of Season of the Deep and paired it with the arc 120 World drop.
It felt funny to use.
u had me with the pali description i was waiting since the good section to see how he was gonna hype up the best hc in the game and he just took a massive duce on it.
gonna be using this tier list to decide what to mulch. ggs
Any comments on Epochal Integration? I love its look and feel and sound. It’s a static roll weapon with a couple of options from Stats for all or Keep away and then Eye of the Storm or Incandescence in the next column (This is not to forget it’s intrinsic of Nano trace rockets as well like Round Robin). I enjoy the weapon a lot when I’m not using Sunshot and it’s a limited yet unique package I think.
The Ahoy inspiration works great
Got a godly Crisis Inverted with Extended Barrel so it’s pattern is 100 with ricochet rounds, tunnel, and ranger finder with range master work and dear lord it’s so crispy it brings me back to the D1 Omolon Handcannon days and that was when you could order guns from Banshee every Wednesday and get nasty ass roles.
interestingly, i started playing the game in season of the chosen, having picked the game up because of xbox game pass, and having played D1 growing up (17 now), and dropped waking vigil in my first hour of playing the game, rangefinder dragonfly and it's still to this day my favorite handcannon i have
Glad to see Cantata in Great as it's my favourite PvP handcannon. I've got a crafted Austringer but it's hard to give up my wastelander in the kinetic slot so I'm probably going to be farming for a Pali whenever it returns as long as they don't nuke the perk pool. (RIP Mindbenders)
gonna dig around in my vault and give some of these a spin
Finite impactor can get a spectral unique roll of focus fury and slide ways. Slide ways help reload the gun and not mess with focus fury’s perk, allowing you to get bonus damage easier.
The older seventh seraph revolver with ambitious assassin and timed payload is so good. Amazing damage at all ranges and possibly a 30 round magazine makes it worth using
Loved that manscape ad 😂😂
Love ascendant nomads videos but admittedly i don’t understand the theme of youtubers making tier lists right before a new season! Anyone watching this during the season of the deep, a few of the hand cannons look like they could be pretty good picks, but nation of the beasts after the rangefinder buff has a good chance to become top tier, not only because of a new perk pool, but its also now craftable! Has an amazing keep away exposive payload roll, and a memey(?) roll of hipfire grip offhand strike. Don’t know how this feels on a hand cannon yet but unironically an incredible roll on heritage, my personal favorite roll on the gun. May have some potential on this. Worth a try for some funky stuff if you get it as a random roll!
With the zhaouli's bane, one of the main reason is its sights are muuch wider and just chunkier then any other hand cannon, making it feel and act as if its close range
rose is my beloved now and forever. i loved it when we first got it back in opulence and now that i have it back in my hands i will never let go. moving target/explosive payload is the roll I've been running for a while now but i really want a roll that combines the kaboom bullets i adore with maybe rapid hit or elemental capacitor? idk could be fun
if im ever writing a recommendation letter im using your good and great intros for an outline 😂
I hope you do Sidearms next! Great vid!
I really love the way Loud Lullaby feels to use. It's heavy and clunky, but it hits hard and sounds great. It gives me the feeling of driving a miniature semi truck into somebody's skull. Kinda like how Arbalest felt back when it first released.
Sadly didn't see my all time favorite, kindled orchid. Kill clip + rampage was such a legendary perk combo for its time.
lmfao that Manscaped ad is spectacular.
For Zaouli’s Bane there’s some kind of weird zoom bug or reticle placement that makes it really weird to use. You cant even see your hands it’s so zoomed in
As of rn, Trust is my favourite handcannon in the game. The one I use has Dragonfly, Heating up, and stability mw. I agree with the placement tho, bc I've always felt it's more for PvE use than PvP, especially my role. It feels amazing tho, get one if you don't have one.
"Superior suggestions" lol great stuff Nomad! I'll keep coming back for the mellifluous use of language :)
Might have to move malfeasance. It got a crazy catalyst
Crafted Zaouli’s Bane is literally diet legendary sunshot in pvp and I use it in place of sunshot whenever I can’t have an energy exotic
Ive been cooking with thorn recently. Enough to see a few pop up on the opposite team only for them to swap back when they realize its not the gun.
Great Tier list as always. Could you please do one for sniper rifles and shotguns ? I Would really appreciate it.
Now that you can craft nation of beasts its prolly now really a beast. Also really wanna see what it looks like with the trials momento
Still love my trust roll with quickdraw and explosive payload I put the quick swap mod on it too, it rips and tears in crucible and paired with unstoppable shot is great against champions in PvE
For pve, I actually find 120s quite enjoyable to use. High enough damage profiles without having to get into smg territory. Scouts can feel awkward in that middling range, so if your play style is too aggressive for scouts and not enough for smgs, I recommend a good 120
This was fun. Thanks for helping me kill some work time.
Commenting before tierlist ( 1:50 ) - As a big enjoyer of Hand cannons in PvE I kinda agree with the point of them not being the greatest in it, yet I feel like a couple honorable mentions for PvE could be nice, Like Zaoulis Bane. Still gonna watch cause I love ur tierlists, hope to see some weapons get atleast mentions of them being good in pve
As a hunter who mains Void a handcannon is the best weapon to use. Along with the ace of spades simply getting one headshot has killed entire mobs of enemies while allowing me to go invisible and get ready for the next.
Out of all the HC's on this list, I somehow always default back to Eriana's Vow above everything else. Aha. Crimson, Ace or Trust were my go-to until I got the EV catalyst done. Might not be meta in any way but damn is it satisfying to use, especially in pvp with a Titan throwing hammer to soften up the unsuspecting first. Don't think I'll ever get bored of that unwieldy chunk of metal as my personal #1.
I use an Astringer in pve, Ahmkaras, tripmine and exploding knife .... nades refresh the melee, melee refresh the nade timer **big badabooms** demolitionist perk on astringer for if i miss a throw and end up with long CD's .. pop a couple of headshots and i can start badda booming again
Now that the HC that was on the front cover on LightFall is out, where would you place it? It’s a 140 Solar with Keep Away and Eye of the Storm.
I'm not so sure how I feel about zaouli's bane, in pvp I've never used it but in pve with explosive payload and incandescent it's fantastic granted tho not in gms or master raids but everywhere else it's great, I'm really surprised it was so low
My first exotic drop from pvp I got crimson had to see if it was good so thanks
Eriana's Vow needs a specific way to play with in order to make it good. All by itself it's bad. With buffs it becomes a one shot kill which makes it very good. Another way to use it is with handcannons that have quickdraw so you can use that same trick we used to do with bows.
Absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on a steady hand with ric rounds/ slideshot/ iron grip, I didn't get one 2 years ago and having it come back with supposed same perks makes me drool