Climbing Harnesses - Every part explained, incl Elastic Straps at the back | Ep.7
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- Detailed Class on Climbing Harnesses & Simple method how to find the best Climbing Harness for you.
00:00 Intro
00:35 Correct Fit of a Harness
03:12 Belay Loop
03:53 Tie In Loops
04:36 Gear Loops
05:08 Haul Loop
06:01 Elastic Straps - And why you Need to Adjust them!
07:36 How to Choose a Harness?
10:53 Can You Wear Opposite Gender Harness?
11:21 Lifespan of a Harness
If you are looking for a new Climbing harness, Good News - with such a huge competition a lot of Harnesses nowadays are really good. Here are the ones I've tried:
Mammut Sender (Orange) - bit.ly/3BQvBuy
Mammut Nordwand Harness (Black) - bit.ly/3E3uSbl
I've also used extensively:
Petzl Sitta & Black Diamond Solution and the difference is in small details that might or might not matter to you.
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how is nobody commenting on the "or sometimes no pants"?
Realising I can just remove the legs strap to “do my business” without having to remove the harness 🤣 priceless, thank you!
I had no idea…. Oh my god! I feel cheated.
🤯
also lets you go #2 when big wall climbing, because not going for several days is not good.
When I started climbing I asked if I could do that and my friend told me that’s not what it’s for 😐
Where does he mention this?
"You don't need stuff dangling around you when you're climbing"
Quickdraws, chalk bag, cams, etc...: *are we a joke to you.*
Haha, I thought and said the same thing to my partner when we were watching :D
🤣
Climbing for 10 years and still learning.
Great series!
As a female climber and also a physicist I do really really really love your videos! And today I would like to tell you my experience buying harnesses and if you get to read this, or anyone else in the community, I would like to know you opinion and if you know about similar situations.
It was VERY VERY VERY difficult for me to find a harness, even among the lady designs and yet I am not fully satisfied. As you explain in the video, female versions have smaller waist loop and bigger leg loops, however, they do not match very well from my experience.
It happens that my sizes are 61cm on the wais perimeter and 56cm on the legs perimeter, which I don't think are so weird sizes, and most of the harnesses starts from 65cm or 70cm in the waist loop, including small sizes of women harnesses (Petzl, Mammut, Black Diamond...) !! However, there are a few brands in which the XS size might start in 60cm (Camp), but the leg loops are just too small for me, making my nightmare continue.
At the end I bought a lady harness from Ocun that had a wide range for adjustability in both loops and I thought I was happy until it arrived to my place and surprise surprise.... THE ELASTICS YOU TOLD ABOUT IN THIS VIDEO WERE JUST TOO SHORT!! I also wondered why they were there until I had this experience and I understood.
As you said, we women wear the waist loop a little bit higher than men due to our anatomy, therefore these elastics should also be longer as the distance between both loops is greater, but in this case they were not! And I do not want to tell here what part of my female anatomy gets too much pressure when hanging on the harness... if you know what I mean.
Thanks for the videos again!!
Thank you your opinion I from HK
My girlfriend had a similar problem, and ended up buying a black diamond harness that had two buckles on the waist band (one each side of the belay loop). This gave more adjustment for her small waist. She hasn't mentioned any issues with the elastics and seems pretty happy with it.
You are absolutely right! my perimeters are around 5cm more than yours on both my waist and legs, so I could fit into standardized harnesses, but only if I adjust my waist loop at the tightest and leg loops at the loosest.
If it's any consolation my bits get bunched in pretty much any harness I've worn
I found out today that my harness hasn't been safe to climb with for... well, years. I already knew somewhat, but buying a new one is psychological torture. My leg/hip ratio seems to be baffling for harness creators as well, while my sollution would be to make the leg straps adjustable.
Yippee! Thanks for you amazing climbing series!
also, chest harnesses are used for children as well sometimes (when the center oof gravity is too high up)
@@chaosengine4597 xD
Another great video! Obviously paused it to put my harness on and check the leg loops haha
As a beginner climber getting back into it after...a LONG time (20+ yrs), your videos are AMAZINGLY informative. I love the depth of information and approach you take. Thank you very much for your incredible videos!
Part about doing my business blew my mind! I have this feature in my harness but had no idea! My life is so much better now. Tbh I can't wait to use it so much that I think I'll wear it at the moment and try. Thank you!!!!!
Hello! Just wanted to say that your video about physics of falling showed up in my recommendations and I really loved your energy even though I'm not a climber. Subscribed just because I think you deserve recognition for being so good at explaining things!
You are a legend, thanks for sharing! I was hoping you would do a bonus round of which harness is suitable fr highliners too, since we have the exact same options as climbers :) thank you once again BEN!
Thanks! And... I suck at Highlinening :D So would not be the best person to listen for advices :D And yes I don't think that there are Harnesses specifically designed for Highlinening... it's to small for manufacturers... So you have to pick what suits your needs out of what exists for other sports...
But as falls go, the only difference I see that in Highlines you take way more inverted falls compared to sport climbing falls. So I would not go with super skinny waist loop, that might not be the most comfy.
@@HardIsEasy hope to see you highlining soon, feel free to connect with us if you plan to make a trip to India to climb and highline, would be happy to help you out in every way possible for me! We usually prefer for padded harnesses like black diamond big gun or momentum, but I always wonder if there are any other factors that go into it. This topic would make for a good cross over episode with Ryan ;) i love it when you'll are in each others videos. Cheers!
Namaste dost!
Great information as always. Keep up the great content!
Bought the sender harness from the video. Honestly better than I expected! It's sturdy, very comfy, and beautiful. Couldn't be happier with it.
Awesome! I'm so glad I learned why those straps detach....you just saved me so much time when I'm take a pee break! 😆
Knowing what the detachable elastic straps are for is mindblowing and lifechanging wow
Cute orange harness, and perfect English so I can practice listening. Many thanks =)
It is awersome the fact that as much as you know, more frightening is to remember how you did in the past....amazing videos, congrats.
Love your videos, really well explained with practical application scenarios and especially stuff a normal climber was always wondering about: what🤨, how😱 and why🤔.
the moment at 7:32 made me laugh so much! thanks for your good vibes and no-nonsense attitude. I will be supporting you for sure!
Great explanation usefull for beginners and experienced climbers!
Just binged the entire series in a day! This is an AMAZING resource, regardless of how long someone has climbed/how experienced they are. I'm definitely donating to the cause.
Now, I need more in the series! Can't wait for the next one!
Wow, one day!?
Another amazing addition to the belay masterclass
Thank you Ben !
Aaah thank you so much! It helps a lot!
Great explanations as always ! And honesty, the plastic protection on the Mammut harness seems great, I will check it out !
All my harness mystery solved. Thanks for your humble presentation.
Nice info, thanks for making this series
Great video thanks for the amazing content! Looking forward to the episode about cleaning a sports route :)
I was so curious about the gendered harnesses. Thank you!
Good stuff. Another well done video.
very informative and well explained! Thank you!
One of the best tutorials 👌
Excellent video! :) Great job!
your vids are sooo helpful, thank youuuuuu
Great video! Thank you so much!
Love all your videos, thanks.
Thanks for the info, really informative and helpful.
commenting for the algorithm! super awesome video series
Thank you for this video. Learned a lot.
Nice video about the harnesses, I really like it.
Just a few comment:
1. If you are planning to do Alpine or Winter climbing choose that where it contains some extra ice screw clipper.
2. Worn out: after long crack or chimney climbing always check the back of the harness!
Again, another excelent video
I just took a class to get Belay certified for my 11 year old twins yesterday. The class was 2 hours including practice and was good but there was still a lot I didn't know. Your videos have been wonderfully informative. I like how you explain why you do things a certain way, what happens if you don't do things the correct way and options to keep safe. My kids just love climbing and being informed will help me keep them safe. Thanks for your wonderful videos!
Great explanation. Thanks!
"what you choose will probably be fine"
aight gonna go buy a participant harness /s
great video, im going to take the time to adjust my elastics now
Wow! I just discovered some of your videos earlier this week. REI is having a sale and I'm looking at the harnesses, and saw this video. Then discovered you literally just released it. Crazy!
join an indoor rock climbing gym with auto belays and go climb often
Mind reading you ;)
Man, you the best! Thank you
Thanks for the video and thanks marmot for sponsoring the content.
Very good video!
Greetings from Chile🇨🇱
Great video as usual. Detachable leg elastics,…hmmm 🤔.
A side discussion that won’t be off-channel is winter use of harnesses. I have a slightly bulkier set-up for ski-touring and ice-climbing.
Very interesting video. Thank you.
Thank You for all your info
Un saludo desde Colombia, como siempre te seguimos y nos parece que los vídeos son muy buenos y instructivos, 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you verte much for your work
Thank you, very helpful.
I wear a female Edelrid harness. It's neon green, yellow, and a bright blue, which I actually like the color. I had a men's Edelrid and it was not comfortable enough. I sat in my harness while I was watching a friend set up an anchor and clean just to make sure he was okay. I saw up there for at least 20 minutes it felt like. It was very uncomfortable. One day one of our friends at the gym walked out with this female version, bright colors and all. He's sponsored so sometimes he just gets products sent to him and I've never seen that specific one at any of the stores I shopped at for gear.
I asked him, "Bro where did you get that harness?"
"We have it here now, it's a female harness"
I walked towards the back to go find it, "I'm getting it". Bought it and never regretted it.
Knowing that the female harnesses do have bigger leg straps as I'm bulkier guy compared to the average climber. Bigger hamstrings and quads. It's probably the most comfortable harness I've owned so far. If it's comfortable wear it. Obviously this goes with climbing shoes too as I've seen guys wear ladies shoes and some ladies where guys shoes (because they're usually wider).
Since my "old" harness was still very new (about a month or so), I gave it to one of our other climbing friends. He's had his harness since he started climbing (older gentleman). I said we had talked about him getting a new harness, so now he can have my old one and not have to buy a new one.
Packing volume is also a very important to consider when choosing a harness. It's always better to have more space in your backpack. :)
Great series anyway, thanks!
You are a good dude ma dude
I wish I saw this video when I was looking for a new harness. Interesting that I ended up choosing between Mammut and BD featured in this video.
I think you should add the importance of checking that the buckle of the harness are properly locked (strap goes one way and then back ). I have witness some near misses for people not knowing this and harness opening for not locking them properly.
Great video. You explain things so clearly! I've just become a Patron :)
Wooohooo thank you SO MUCH!
I'm enjoying your master class series, thank you. Do you know when the 2nd version of Ep6 is going to come out?
What happened to the first version?
@@schmushenmush he removed to put up a better version
Thanks a lot, I'm going to the Spirit Well Cave in a few days, these video are very useful and right to my point
Thank you so much! Have a nice trip!
You are an awesome human being
Very informative
professional❤
Thanks for your sharing
So much to this I learned all my climbing in the military and we tended to use the stabo rig out web gear was attached to same as the guys in Vietnam who developed it edit I should say we learned the swiss seat as well
Nice explanation, tx :)
Thanks!
Wonderful
Hi Ben, I love your video's! Are you also planning to do one on foot faults?
Hmmmm, will go to check all loops on my harness.
The leg loop straps were a mystery to me until one day I was climbing on a rental harness and it didn't have them. The leg loops kept falling down behind my knees and you can't move your legs properly when your leg loops are caught on your knees... Lesson learned.
Will you upload more videos to this series? I feel like there is a lot more we can learn from you
I have a same question. This masterclass had a fantastic start... :/
Tremendous fan of the Mammut Sender in the emergency orange, only major qualm is the elastic tensioner for the leg loops adjusts too easily due to the quick adjust slide. Had to trim this all off and sew the elastic to itself to maintain the desired tension.
Also, wish there was a version with strictly the nylon gear loops instead of the larger coated ones. The nylon loops are much lower profile, which when I am projecting I would far rather.
Thanks so much to show the ladies how to go to the bathroom with a harness on. We would have never known what to do.🤣
Loving your lessons! I winged it and bought a black diamond momentum not for climbing, but just for navigating steep slopes LOL! Hope it's a good harness for rappelling! Hmm, climbing with no pants? seems like a bad idea lol!
I bought my first harness a few weeks ago but I've been in lock down ever since so haven't climbed on it yet. I was wondering what the tiny loop on the back was for! So far I just use it to hang up my harness
Another fact about durability is that some brands put a warning color in the inside of your belay loop and/ or tying loops. When you see that color, often red or orange, you know its time to change your gear
Super helpful, thank you!
They're haul loops made for hauling as you said. Like rope, rucksack. The Black Diamond doesn't have one. The 0 Newton applies to the hook meant for the elasticated adjustment straps.
I’m going soon to get another harness. My current one is rough to say the least 😂
thanx!
Thank you very much for your videos. Can you please explain a little more about the Mammut Indicator technology? I actually bought a set of Mammut Indicator Quickdraws when I was climbing in Andalusia and realised I didn't have enough Quickdraws, but now I can't find any more information about the technology.
And just a small detail, you mainly talked about "ultralight" harnesses for sport climbing. It's a bit pity that you didn't cover other types of harnesses, such as those for climbing, full body, ski alpinism or big wall. It would be interesting for me, and I hope for the others too, but I understand that the video can take hours.
Thank you for making this series, I always find your videos interesting and helpful. On the subject of this video I was wondering if an additional chest harness is something that is commonly used or if it's used only in some particular cases, does it provide extra safety?
Thank You! Chest harnesses are almost never used in Sport Climbing.
If you can't make your harness stay above your hip bones to not slip down - then chest harness could help... You might find this set up for little kids.
Chest harnesses are used in a few cases. For example in alpine climbing, if the climbers need to take a heavy backpack. In this case their center of gravity moves up so that with the sport climbing harness alone they tend to flick back. A chest harness prevents this. Another case is for very young children, like below 7 years.
Pregnancy
Thank you guys for all the responses, love the community :)
When carrying a backpack your center of mass is shifted to almost above the belly button. You inevitably tip backwards when sitting in your harness and falling with such a heavy mass you hurt your back pretty badly. A chest harness solves these problems.
Basically they are safer when carrying a backpack and overall more conveniet
Very clear and good explanation. As usual with you. Congrats !
Thank you for this great video!
What about EP.6? I can't find it on your channel.
He removed the Mk1 version to put an improved Mk2 version up 🙂
Great video, it is realy intresting fore me to see these sport climbing harneses vs the tree climbing harneses wich i use as an arborist like how minimalistic these harneses ar
please make also videos about alpine climbing !
Hie there, I noticed that this video is not in your belay master class playlist as well,
Can you please add it in as well?
Thank you and love all your videos and appreciate your detailed introduction and explanations
On my harness the load-bearing straps wore down quickest. Around the buckles they got really furry which made me retire the harness. Also the leg loops suffered from a lot of abrasion because of walking around in the harness.
I bought the Petzl Adjama for the gym, serves me just fine, but i wouldn't say its an outdoor harness like Petzl does.
0KN haul loop are used because (I was told) if your haul bag at the anchor were to fall while attached to you, the loop will break and there is less chance of you pulling your gear out and fall to your death.
It’s a good and well explained video about harness. However, I am a little bit sad to not have seen any full body harness presented. I feel like there are so little reliable information about these. But I think they still deserve to be talked about since they are also used by climberd for many reasons.
Yes. I understand that the main focus is on sport climbing, but I feel that your videos would be also useful for other applications, for alpine climbers, industrial rope access climbers, firefighters, and so on. The basics are the same, but I would gladly watch a separate series for any other style of climbing
@@ffoska I mean, that requires the person to know about those things. I don't think he should be talking about those if he doesn't have experience with them. This is a sport climbing channel after all. Also, algorithm. Creators need to create things that stay "on brand" for their youtube channels otherwise the algorithm stops suggesting their channel to their audience. Many channels die while trying to "diversify".
@@wlthr yeah you might be right. But still the quality of this content is very good, and it might be his expirience, but also the presentation. Maybe get the experts on his show? And yeah chances are, there are chanels dedicated to other areas
I'd argue that there is almost no amateur use for a full body harness, and therefore there is no space for a "masterclass" for professionnals on youtube.
If you are talking about shoulder straps for caving for example then yes it would have been interesting to talk about those things !
Cheers
Thank you, and yes these videos are mostly targeted for Sport Climbers. Covering all types of climbing, especially professional work industry, would make videos insanely long / broad and very hard to produce requiring to understand all different areas and safety requirements.
Just wanted to point out the quick release of the elastic strap is not just for women but for men too. It's used for #2 on big wall multi-day climbs.
I had a really easy way to choose my harness, I found only one from like a hundred what was wide enough for my body size XD
great
Thank you for the videos of the series so far!
My harness is already pretty dirty just from using it the last couple of months outside. Do you know if it's possible to wash the harness?
You should check out your manufacturer recommendations on it to be safe. However, mine says that it is safe to wash with gentle soap. I use Dr. Bronner's pure castille soap personally. Just a plain soap with no additives. I hand wash in a clean Rubbermaid container that I know hasn't had any cleaning chemicals in it. I don't do it in the sink because there could be residual cleaning chemicals in it from the last time I cleaned it. Then I rinse it really well and let it air dry on a drying rack (not hanging). It worked really well! Looked like new. But again, I would refer to your harness manufacturer recs. You can just Google for it easily.
@@coffee-fueledcritic5498 Jeez, I just hang mine up and hose it off.
"maybe then consult with your wallet" is such a great quote
oh wow mine is at least 15 years old. now I have a good excuse to buy a new one.
Thanks for the video Ben.
How should I wash my harness?
Spot wash with a sponge and soap sans dyes, fragrance, etc., and minimize soaking, then let dry thoroughly over a couple days.
I love the way you explain things not just saying what you are suposed to do acording to theory but allso explaning what happends when you do things in uncorrect ways.
I don´t know if you´ll ever see this coment but I have a question. What´s the problem with you tying yourself to the harnes with a carabiner if you do it in the belay loop (so it won´t load in a triaxial way) and you do it with a belay carabiner which would avoid cross load. I´ve seen you tie yourself with 2 carabiners with the gates facing away of each other and I understand it would be something similar. It would not be to use it in sport climbing, but in small first or second grade step ups allong a mountaineering route for an extra safety but trying to save time as it would be a repeated process. I apologize for the huge text but it´s something I have not found discused in youtube.