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- Ever the conscientious social critic, here Lord Jamar offers his take on lyricism versus charisma in hip-hop, rappers with alternative sources of income, using drugs in potentially dangerous situations, and what it means to have more than one chain. "Once is luck, twice is skill," Jamar says, "It's saying, 'I know how to get money.'" Watch the clip above.
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I can't name ONE Joey Badass song. I know entire 2Pac albums by heart.
nothing to do with lyrics....like fam said PAC GRABBED YOU AND MADE YOU FEEL.....
williest1 who the fuck is Joey Badass
williest1 if pac is such a great rapper how come he doesn't make music anymore?
Trid I guess it's hard to make music when you're dead just my guess
I....can't.....deal with this comment. My head almost burst.
Lord Jamar make vladtv lit in my opinion
Quentin Knox yup
Quentin Knox I don't fuck with a lot of his opinions but I always tune in
Exatcly! I discovered this channel thanks to him
Quentin Knox he's the one guest you can always count on
Bingo
There is more to rappin that corny ass punchlines. Thats why most battle rappers can't make good music. 2pac was a great songwriter and could hold his own when he wanted to. Look how many classics timeless songs dude has, thats a skill. The word lyricist is so vague, Pac had bars, you don't write songs like Against All Odds, and Blasphemy, Troublesome 96 and Shed So Many Tears and tell me dude can't pen bars. He was so diverse and hit so many styles and subjects, people forget how Pac could do it all
FACTS
Info Minds thats because in the 90s rap was street,now its all club music and songs you can get wavy to
Info Minds
Papoose is a prime example...dope spitter..but cant.make a hit
Info Minds Yep that what made tupac special
Against all odds still gets me amped smh that shit hard
Pacs lyrics were potent and deep
@Rudolph Manor You had somewhat of a point bro but lost when you started with the namecalling. you couldve made your case and possibly convinced this guy but now you just look immature. Just a word of advice next time you get into a debate
@Rudolph Manor yessirski. PEACE
That doesnt meant anything
@@allaboutthemurzic yeah it does
I don't understand how people call 2pac overrated. Name one rapper that has tupacs passion, energy and charisma. No one. Tupac is more than just a rapper he's an icon. We even watched Tupac resurrection documentary in school.
I love that film, I've seen that shit 3 times already.
Ricardo Marques
see your talking about "energy", "passion" as criteria for lyricism..it's not. Tupac was a better folk hero than a rapper.
Ricardo Marques 2pac is overrated. He get dick rided too much. Boosie is better pac
Wold Star Hip Hop Fights/ Music You're just trolling, try not to be obvious next time.
Wold Star Hip Hop Fights/ Music yall fkin crazy
Lets break it down.
Definition of lyricism
1) the quality or state of being lyric : songfulness
2) (a) : an intense personal quality expressive of feeling or emotion in an art (such as poetry or music)
(b) : exuberance - the sort of author who inspires lyricism or invective, not judicious interpretation
Allow me to simplify
"AN INTENSE PERSONAL QUALITY EXPRESSIVE OF FEELING OR EMOTION IN AN ART (SUCH AS POETRY OR MUSIC)"
Based on this definition, 2pac is the embodiment of lyricism
Rap = Flow, Creativity, Voice, Content, Delivery/Energy, Credibility
My personal preference in order of importance;
1. Content (Message)
2. Voice
3. Delivery/Energy/Passion
4. Credibility (Do they live the life they rap about?)
5 Flow
6. Creativity./Word play
Top artists for each category;
1. Content = Immortal Tech, Dead Prez, 2pac
2. Voice = 2pac, DMX, Method Man, Nate Dogg, Snoop, Ice Cube, Ja Rule, Kasinova
3. Delivery/Energy/Passion = 2pac, DMX, Mystical
4. Credibility = 2pac, DMX, 50 Cent, Eazy E
5. Flow = Biggie, Nas, KRS, Rakim, Raekwon, Big Pun, Big L, Eminem, Big Daddy Kane, Snoop Dogg, Warren G, Kurupt, 2pac
6. Creativity/Word Play = Same as Above
2pac does not necessarily have the best Content, Voice, Delivery/Energy, Flow, Creativity but overall he has the most consistent qualities. His content may not be on Immortal Tech level but its good enough, plus he has a better voice, delivery/Energy, flow.
2pac in my opinion has the best voice followed by DMX
2pac does not necessarily have the passion & energy as Mystical or DMX but it is better than Eminem, Nas, Jay z, Rakim etc
2pac may not have been shot 9 times & made hundreds of thousand of dollars selling drugs like 50 cent but there are not many rappers who have been through what he has been through. He definitely lives the life he raps about. If I cant believe what the rapper is saying then I cant listen to them.
2pac does not consistently flow like Eminem, Biggie, Nas etc but he does have a handful of songs which are right up there. But he has better content/message, voice delivery/passion.
2pac is not necessarily creative, in fact he isnt. He gets straight to the point. He doesnt want people analyzing his words, he wants people to hear his message. With that said, Me & My Girlfriend is on another level. He tells not 1 but 2 stories (girlfriend & gun) and has great flow. Cant get any more creative than Me and My Girlfriend.
Overall as a complete package = 2pac
Your favorite rapper depends what qualities are important to you. Those that prefer flow & creativity prefer Biggie, Em, Nas, Jay z etc. For me I prefer content, voice & delivery & Credibility, therefore 2pac is the best overall rapper. And based off of the definition of "lyricism"...2pac is the king of lyricism.
The Truth Hurts You you broke it down bro lol, my exact sentiments! nobody cares about none of that anymore tho, mfs hear "metro boomin" and lose their shit
The Truth Hurts You thanks my brother
The Truth Hurts You right on brother. you on point
I agree everything what you said. But with creativity lyrics and flow and energy, you can't leave out redman bruh lol I know you said etc tho.
I Love You For This BreakDown On My Boy Lol. Someone Finally Just Really Explained It.
"With all this extra stressin'
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finally get to rest? Through this suppression
They punish the people that's askin' questions
And those that possess, steal from the ones without possessions
The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
Don't settle for less - even the genius asks-es questions
Be grateful for blessings
Don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address
Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic
And when you get stranded
And things don't go the way you planned it
Dreamin' of riches, in a position of makin' a difference
Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen
If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change
It wasn't nothin' like the game
It's just me against the world..." -2Pac
Century SAM u damn right
@SCP-939 u boring ass nigga get the fk out of here
That shit lame
That's fire fuck all of you 2PAC haters fuck your family fuck everyone u believe in bitches 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🚮🚮🚮
Poetry. Love it
jamar hit it on the head. But pac was always using words nobody else used like adversary, convalescent, adolescent, he had a great vocabulary
Thats basically every conscious rapper in the 90s
Actually for rappers those are big words!! Lol. He is one of the only ones who could increase your vocabulary and get you hype. Moving you stupid bitches, this is Telekinesis!!
@@jfarm30
You probably haven't been around the underground scene much, then. There are plenty of rappers with bigger vocabularies. Not shitting on Tupac, but he's not exactly complex in his lyrics. Which is not a bad thing. In fact, it was simplicity that made him a great artist. His words hit home for a lot of people.
I give you another word he used in one of his songs that was so advance “Telekinesis”.. What song was it?
@@MissJacque87 I think it was "Don't Stop"
2 PAC is an God MC... period...
agree
street scholar It's Only A Hand Full of God Emcees, PAC is One of Them. I only Have PAC and Nas in My God Emcee Category Because Their Music is Relevant to Empowerment.
Rakim is The GOD MC
street scholar no he is not
Chess Lover bro, I listened to all 4 of Eric B & Rakims album. Paid n Full, Follow The Leader, Let The Rhythm Hit' em (most underrated), and Don't sweat the technique. The first time you'll hear from The God Mc is in 1985, fuggin rippin the mic with Biz Markie. I can go on for hours kid
Tupac shouldn't even be mentioned along any other rapper, He's more than that. Waay more.
Andre Blanco na sorry. Pac is top 3 or top 5. But the best ever n the goat of rap by far no debate no comp is that nigga eminem. Rakim said if em was black he would be labeled the Mohammed ali of rap. That's crazy.
ctfuuuuuuuuuu, nonsense. he aint the only rapper that transcended rap. all this "tupca criticism isnt allowed" bullshit is just that, bullshit!
MaxxSteel TheGOD what u mean?
Yuppthank you I definitely agree
Andres Perez Even Eminem calls Tupac the greatest of all time. He actually found inspiration in Tupac’s music. He rapped from his heart, and that’s why he was the leader of his own movement. Greatest rapper of all time. Period.
There are singers that have better voices and more range and technical skill than Michael Jackson, but they aint MJ!! Same with Pac.
KrayzieBoneThe GOAT facts 💯 the essence is real
Shesaid it26 A LOT of people can outsing MJ. It ain’t just about vocals it’s about charisma, star power, presence, wow factor etc. FEW have that. MJ had it along with a great voice - he didn’t have the BEST voice though. Stokely Williams (lead singer of Mint Condition) would cook Mike in a straight singing battle. El Debarge had a soft beautiful voice similar to MJ. But he wasn’t no MJ.
@Shesaid it26 theres a russian singer that have insane voice range but hes not famous because all he sings russian
KrayzieBone=The GOAT no shit genius
Good word
It wasnt so much the lyrics of 2pac, but his voice and the way he delivered his words that hit your heart and soul.
His charisma was second to none.
@gary corr his wordplay sucked.. his metaphors and similes were lack luster.. he could tell a story, but his wordplay was boring..
@@soramirez5473 that was never his style. He wasn't just trying to flip words. But his metaphors were crazy. Listen to Blasphemy
@@grinchoi1 crazy? maybe i was a bit unfair.. but when compared to members of Wu, Black thought, sean price, Ra the rugged man.. my taste in rap must of spoiled me..
@@soramirez5473 I feel you. Black Thought is one of the greatest MCs of all time imo and probably doesn't get the acclaim he deserves. But I don't compare them because they're two different rappers imo. Pacs style was simpler but deep as all hell n gave you pieces of his life in his rhymes. I listen to both for different reasons but like Lord Jamar said lyricism has a vast landscape
@@absurdturk the entire song is a metaphor.
Only problem is Pac was amazing at freestyles specially of the dome people don't realize how talented Pac was. Don't forget people Pac recorded "All Eye On Me" in less than a month. Go listen to "Me Against The World" and check them bars out and he was a baby when he recorded that
Duc Luc yea I think he’s the only artist that really freestyles from the dome
Lebrannon Hughes trippen
Alot of rappers would smoke Pac off the top
@@intense-houseofmotion5231 finally some1 with common sense in the comments section
@@royalflush4789 most def bro people just be talking pac was great but overrated
1st of all, Tupac was a poet.. Started writing when he was a kid. He had mad note pads with POEMS. So his pen game started to
catch flame when he was a no-name with no plans for the rap game. & when dude got on, he STAYED WRITING, his body of work floors everybody. He was dedicated to doing the work. (“Holla if you hear me”). 2nd I’ve heard people say this before, and its amazing how all these Badass Joeys got criticism now that Tupac is gone, and has been off the earth for 20 years. But they would not have said shit if he was STILL here. 3rd.. (I’m a from New Ro Brotha, so I got love for Lord Jamar.. BUT) Tupac was not just “Charisma” his rhyme skills were cracking (“We Outlaws on the rise, jealous niggas I dispise, look in my eyes”).. People attack Tupac’s lyricism because they want to put THEIR NAME next to greatness (again i'm talking about Joey Badass).. but don’t say nada about all this mumblin’ niggas posing today, with a trillion mixtapes & no hits. Lastly, if you have to use Black Thought as an example then you done raised the bar all the way in the sky.. cause ain’t many around that can fuck with that cat.. Tupac’s legacy is firm. These young brothas walk like, talk like & got more Tupac in their game then they even know..
That was picture perfect/you painted a perfect picture. Well said my brother
2pac was entertainer, artist, poet and story teller.
His words had a much greater impact/meaning and his message resonates more with people.
Tupac will always bee the GOAT.
he passed at 25 and dropped more songs
then 90% these so call "lyrical rappers"
Rappers today will never bee better then Tupac.
100
Facts on top of facts...2pac been dead for over 25 years and out of all the rappers alive in this industry. The fact that you fixed your mouth to say you're a better rapper than a man that's been deceased for over two and a half decades speak VOLUMES to how great 2pac was and still "THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME....PERIOD"
@Big Dog lol what a clown.
@@michellebyrd9017 I agree 💯 percent with you
@Big Dog I knew somebody was gon mention the real 🐐
Tupac's work ethic was way better then a lot of rappers !!!
Karlen Warren. Not a lot of rappers, probably all the rappers. I dont think Tupac ever sat back and really enjoyed his work. He just did his thing and went on to the next song. This nigga still has songs/verses out there and i got like 8 or 9 Makavelis'
Somebody finally said it "vlad how we even get here"
john smith read soon as he said it
john smith 😅😅😅😅😃😃😃😃
He just wants to tell random story's even if they have nothing ta do with what there talking about just to come across as a person who's in the know when really he's just a normal person that thinks he's gangster if he leaves a shop without paying for a chocolate bar!!!
john smith stfu
Scarface, 2Pac & DMX bring a series of emotions out of the listener no other MC can...now from a technical standpoint....Nas, Rakim, G Rap, Kane, Hov, AZ, Raekwon, etc....insane technical skills. Jamar is right, there's different dimensions to greatness as an MC
*DMX* is the *perfect* marriage of _emotion_ and _lyricism_, that's why you *LOVE* him. Anybody can yell, but few yell ideas that resinate.
Have to agree to disagree. DMX was an average lyricist.
@@truthtdpDMX is lyrical when he wants to be. If you hear his older freestyles and songs before his first album its shocking how gifted he was lyrically, but once he went commercial his style was completely different. DMX reminds of tupac you can feel his emotions and energy in his music, not too many rappers are like that anymore
@@jordanfauntleroy2013 truth is most people give up lyricism ( rhymes I mean) for their bars many of them can rhyme well however they give it up so they can get those good lyrics instead
@@truthtdp DMX was a better lyricist than Pac was..
@@user-xb4fm5rx8h I disagree. They were about the same. Just different ways of displaying it.
Joey badass, biggie, nas and most of these rappers take months on they flow, lyrics and music just to make one song.
Tupac takes one day to make 3 songs.
Imaging if tupac took months to make an album?
He would murder every rapper.
(Even tho he does).
Rip tupac
Fact.
John Junior Biggie had some of the worst lyrics of any signed rapper ever.
True. I mean, Pac made his last album in 7 days. 7 DAYS. 😊 I can't think of any other rapper that's done that.
TheJ024 it's about the quality
Adam Phillip he was quoting Richard Pryor
tupac wasnt an em or nas type of lyricist, but to say he wasnt lyrical is blasphemous
A lot of rappers have been coming out recently and saying how much better they are than 2Pac and I just think it shows insecurity in themselves. Why compare yourself to a legend in hip hop like just build your own name and your own lane. 2Pac never came out and said he was a better rapper than anybody he just did his thing and worked on himself. I think comparing yourself to 2Pac just shows how high Pac set the standard and how much of a legend he is in his own right.
Alot of people don't listen to 2pac, There's a difference between listening and hearing. I heard four or five songs from pac on the radio. Ok but did you ever listen to a full album or his underground and or unreleased music? Tupac had BARS!
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Exactly... That’s what I’m saying.
@@MemrYou Good word
He has some real crazy shit i listened to every album and og unreleased stuff so many gems
@@deathitself6985 he also has punchlines and wordplay,alot of songs he has this
people really don't listen to Tupac music. they listen to the radio hits but Tupac is one of the rawest lyrical rappers
GodStephon Facts....especially on 2Pacalypse Now or Strictly 4 My NIGGAZ. Me Against The World was his best album. All EYEZ on Me was commercial bu still dope.
Ronald Green me against the world is his best album
GodStephon he isn't, jamar isn't lying
LN2233 tell me how?
FORREAL DOE!
I don't think Joey is technically better than Pac, even if PAC isn't the most "technical" rapper. He's still not on Pacs level
Paulos Kidane listen to "killuminati" by Joey that alone shows that Joey can be as good or better than pac
Yep,Nobody else can make a "Dear Mama" or "Keep Ya Head Up" I don't care how many punchlines they use.
Frank Izaguirre nigga u tripping
Garion Bush No one can make it because it's a 90s song from the 90s. It's 2017. Just because no one can remake another song means they're not better? lmao ok
In 96 it was not about bars like that. It was about who was real. Tupac told real stories...Even in 2017 joey cant make songs that the people gravitate too.
Disagree. PAC had lyrics. DEEP lyrics
Bassy Simpalah yeah but they weren’t words that would make you a lyricist cause that has to do with the way you flip words, not just saying them like pac did. He was very basic and abc type raps
yep. and mr jamar was and still nothing.wtf is he doing here?!?! who cares about him.
RedJoker Ni66@ you buggin’
@@marley1995 it seemed basic and abc because Pac was such a lyrical genius. All the other "lyrical" rappers tried to do that subliminal shit to appear lyrical and complicated.
@@marley1995 nah bruh go listen again.
2Pac is the best rapper period. He could flow story tell and always came from the bottom of his heart. Listen to All Eyez On Me all 27 tracks fresh from jail the best album ever in hip hop history. Me Against the World was a very lyrical album.
And the thug life vol 1 album was good and 7 day theory album was good also
I agree 💯 percent with you
Jaja i love pac but hes not even top 10 period
Wrong. Pac is mediocre
PAC = G.O.A.T
Mike Simmons W
Mike Simmons even tHougH Kendrick is greater and better.
L
lmao wtf
Leo Quintana. how u gone compare Tupac to kendrick tf? Kendrick aint even on PAC's level tf
Comparing 2pac and Joey is like comparing a fruit fly (joey) to a Eagle (Pac) no comparison.
Armando Cortez facts.
Armando Cortez but Lyricaly pac wasn't better than joey
Strictly talking about straight lyricism, Pac isn’t top 10. But if we’re talking about writing in general, Pacs probably like top 5.
SHoomerT playa fly was a very under rated lyricist....
Twistr Elaborate?
Looks like someone didn't listen to the Makavelli lyrics...
Facts
Pac was on fire
the whole WU tang clan better than Joey badass
Any single member is 100x better
Even U GOD
Definitely not ODB
😆 the whole WU Tang clan is better than 2Pac.
2pac was a lyrical genius
you can be the best lyricist but if you aint got substance, it dont fuckin matter.
2pac is the definition of what a rapper is suppose to be. Nowadays we got Drake
Everyone has their own interpretation of lyricism. What's considered the best way to be lyrical? it's subjective. It's not always about slick wordplay. 2pac was a great lyricist in terms of expressing his emotion and telling a story. 2pac got to the point. Pac was a true poet and storyteller. He made so many classic songs back to back in studio sessions. Y'all need to check his library and stop degrading his greatness until you've listened to all his albums, soundtracks, etc etc, not just a handful of songs. Had Pac lived, who knows how much better his music and talent would of become. How many of today's artist have a song or even an album that can match anything he made during his short period of life. We have greats living now, redman, Nas, eminem and many others etc, no doubt there are some great artists to bless the mic. That's the beauty of the game, having many different types of artists with different styles, you really can't compare them because they're unique in there own way. So basically, this idea can't be answered because everyone has their own opinion and interpretation of lyricism. What you can day is, how many artists right now today can make you feel alive, happy, feel loved and feel like crying after listening to them...2pac makes you feel and he makes you think. That's his greatness.
rza styles the way you form Similes, methaphors, wordplay, timing, rhyming, relevancy. That is what lyricism is. Tupac painted an emotional raw picture. He wasn't the best rapper. He was the realest period. So no matter how many metaphors you make up, you cant make up relating to Tupac's Pain. My favorite Rappers are Pac and Az. Period. And Pun. And I'm from South Carolina
Marc Regal I agree with you. It would of been amazing to see how he would of developed his craft hadn't he died. Oh yeah, Az is the man, hands down. Big up South Carolina.
rza styles Lord Jamar never said that tupac was not a greay rapper. There are different aspect of skills when it comes to rap when peoplw talk about lyricist in the content of rap there mean someone who has great word play and metaphor. Tupac was more of a poet and a storyteller his music stired up powerful emotions in people
Well said brother ✊✊
rza styles exactly my fucking point before you talk shit
Joey Badass could use all the technique in a battle he wants to, all 2 pac would have to say one real ass disrespectful line and the whole crowd would lose their godamn minds. Plus Pac had bars
2 pac spit that shit that make a grown man cry
Haven't heard of this dude until I seen PAC in the title! put some respect on Pacs name! He's the greatest! HE SPOKE THAT REAL! Not what we couldn't profit from 💯
You are definitely missing out then.
tupac also wrote better in terms of literary structure and word usage...he wasn't a canibus but he incorporated practically everything
sorry haters PAC is the best hands down!!!!!!!!!!!! study the man from beginning to the end
genius its me exactly dude
Yup👍
Anybody with a background in religion or basic history can realize half of what tupac said was taken from historical poetry & thinkers
Steve Pirate Can you name some thinkers? That I can search up
Machiaveli would be the obvious one
The problem with this conversation is that people tend to boil lyricism down to metaphors and similes. Lyricism is so much more than that. Lyricism is also irony, apostrophe, juxtaposition etc. Pac was a genius at the latter. Pac was a POET. Poets by NATURE are lyricists...There are different kinds if lyricists...#GIVEmeJESUS
2pac was the best both lyrically, technicality and flow..... those who say otherwise have not listened to pac properly and have no clue about writing bars
I used to always say tupac wasn't a lyricist .. But the more I listen to him the more impressed I am with his bars and writing. Dude had a blessing with that pen.
NY still salty about Pac going out west? Damn, B! It's been decades, sun! Let it go, word is bond!
Truly Zambian yuo
not all of us
Tupac poet revolutionary civil right activists actor
DMX never made me feel nothing met him he scared me
Every day when they wake up
Still have the bad taste
From hit em up 2 pac diss song
Biggie couldn’t take L
And and able to comeback
And showed everyone he was the better rapper.. and biggie
It got stuck on his head
The part of the song when pac
Was saying , i fuck your wife !lmao
Booooom. Nailed it. New York dudes never got over Pac ridin with the Westcoast. They been hatin on Pac since the mid 90's.
😂😂 the ny lingo you using
This dude is crazy. Tupac was a lyricist and poet.
alsimard And id agree that pac wasn’t a bar for bar type of lyricist, like he didn’t just wanna spit punchlines at u, even though it’s cool but your whole album shouldn’t be about punchlines
tj tee senior pac was a abc type rapper. Not lyricist.
@@marley1995 Pac was the best overall lyricist. Even to this very day.
Jack1uptone bruh, no he was wasn’t, he did not have multi syllable rhymes and was not a word smith. Especially on his mainstream songs, on some unreleased joints I know of he does honestly start getting more wordy which I was surprised by when I first heard them back in the day. Don’t get me wrong pac is one of the goats, but he is not lyrical what so ever, and even then lyrical isn’t everything honestly. I hate how a lot of white people only like battle rap style lyrical spiritual miracle bull shit, which I fucking hate.
@@marley1995 Like millions and millions of people, i disagree with the notion that Pac wasn't a lyricist. That's amazing how anybody could possibly say that cause Pac was the epitome of a lyricist. Plus he was a true poet. Lyricism isn't just wordplay, metaphors, syllables, or flow. Being able to formulate and articulate words, tell stories in a way where people can visualize what you're saying is the epitome of lyricism, which Pac was extremely good at. How you gon say a poet isn't lyrical? To this very day no rapper has duplicated the powerful, soulful, and lyrical capacity Pac had. You can always name rappers who can do something better but Pac was the total package. Pac's lyricism and powerful vocabulary is one of the things people always loved about him the most. New York dudes are the ones who started that "Pac wasn't really a lyricist" nonsense. They been hatin on Pac for years because he went out to California and started throwin up that Westside. They say that because they want Biggie to be considered the best rapper because he represented New York. But most people outside New York aren't and never will buy that narrative.
*It's 2Pac then it's everybody else.*
I swear Vlad has a friend for every situation lmao 😂😂😂
R.I.P 2PAC YOU STILL HAVE HATERS
PAC is still the G.O.A.T.
Yup👍
@son goku
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Part of being a great lyricist is the chemistry between you and listeners that is produced with deep meaning in lyrics that can be simple but effective.The connection of emotions and poetry has been around forever.
pac is sittin in heaven smiling down at the fact that 21 years later, they're still debating about him..he called it before he passed and it's happenin...RIP pac nigguhz MISS U DOWN HERE
This is like the greatest fighter argument. Floyd Mayweather is technically better than Muhammad Ali and probably anybody else in the history of boxing. But Muhammad Ali is the greatest to ever step in the ring for a collection of other reasons. Exactly the same as Tupac. May technically not be the best but he was a king of the highest order and these boys can't compare to him
BMT Well said...
Henry Armstrong was the greatest
I hate when muthafuckers say Tupac wasn't the best lyricist but he just made people feel him. I want to know what the fuck is some people's definition of great lyricist. Like Tupac said way back in the day, just because your words are rhyming that's not rapping...smh
vlad tryna g himself up is so cringy
People that bring up eninem...... listened to him ssoooooo much to the point where they've rarely checked anyone's else catalog lmao it's to the point where it's like "oh he's the goat" it's easy to say that when that's ALLLLLL you listen to
I listen to everyone (Nas,pac,rakim,Andre) and I can say that they don't compare to em
Yes! Eminem fans are crazy low key 😂
+Danny Serrano meh you can't speak for all his fans. Many know the truth.
@@paultello1042 you clearly don't
NAH NAH NAH!! Tupac made you feel good cus he had the right LYRICS! Nothing compared to dmx , dmx makes you feel good because of his ENERGY! Even if pac was calm he made you FEEL. People always try to underrate PAC. Pac lyricially extremely underrated! Study him. ...............DMX extremely underrated !!
It could never be about who was more lyrical than 2 Pac. Yes there might be people with more bars but they lack the swag, the delivery, fashion sense, cache. 2 Pac was a true multifaceted artist and prototype for alot of what people are doing now. People should pay homage and move on. The thing about builders is they set the foundation as artists we should learn from them. Joey Badass is a decent artist but he isn't 2 Pac.
Sis, pac bars flew over their heads because they never really took time to study pac. All tho I don't know where we going but she's making me cum(come) im similar to Sadam, sometimes I question hussein (who sane) pac was technically gifted. The haters won't acknowledge it because they're mad because the love pac gets.
Lies
@@Aboriginal_American_Hebrew you tripping bro
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 Yesss, people only listen to his mainstream songs and forget about the underground/unreleased songs where Pac killed it with his pen
@@dxsh8853 exactly, I agree with you
2pac is the goat
Duquette Beats but not the best lyricst
Duquette Beats he was shit
Carlos Carson That shit overrated,Em is a lyrist but tell me one line you remember from his songs?
Nas is ten times better than PAC. PAC became an icon after he died. Lyrically Nas will eat PAC alive.even PAC know that, he had mad respect for Nas.
What's the point of being a great lyricists if no one FEELS what you saying.....
I must say this is one of the hardest Lord Jamar interviews i have seen in some time... major respect, Salute😳✌🏾
but pac could rap though he wasn't a terrible lyricist
Bmore24 t duh tf of course Tupac can rap
Bmore24 t yup
Pac just made it look easy.
Imagine if Big L was alive that guy freestyle and punchlines were on 🔥. It's a shame he got killed. Even nas got afraid when he first heard him
our generation was better 70s babies😘😘😘😘😘
Pac wasn't lyrical? U serious?
no he wasn't that's true
Fred Smove he wasn’t he was abc basic rapper.
@@marley1995 naw he was a poet and if you put poetic shit in yo lyricism that would make you a good lyricst
@Venom Jay Tupac is more lyrical than Jay z. Jay z an overrated lyricist too and he had to wait until pac was dead to drop a basic ass diss.
@@40savv45 bar for bar, Jay was more lyrical than 2pac
"Once is luck, two times is skill, three times you're a master". Gully quote right there.
That What's Wrong On Today's Rap, Many Fake Rappers Like Drake Or Lil'Yachty, Thinks That They Better Than 2pac, When It Comes To Today's Rap Fans, They Gonna Say 2pac Is Most Overrated Rapper In The History But They Will Never Know That What Rapper Is An Real Legendary Lyricist Like MC Search, Immortal Technique, Nas, Big L, Big Pun, Beanie Sigel, Redman, Def Efx, Mos Def, And Lord Of The Underground!!!!
#FuckTodaysRap
Detroit 313 what's a fake rapper? when they both put words together for a living
Fake Rapper Meaning Isn't Really A Rapper, When I Say Fake Rappers, It's More Than One!!!!!!
your arguement is cliche af those are the most basic names you just brought up smh and who in their right mind has ever said they're better than PAC other than joey??🤔🤔
Detroit 313 and "isn't really a rapper" drake music is known for evoking emotion whether it's rap anthems or pop to sad R&B songs lmao I don't think you've really listened to dudes Catalog he came into the game in 2006 rapping he can rap fr he just fallen off past few years
What Year He Has Fallen Off???
Tupac the 🐐🐐 of hiphop he could never be on 2pac level bcuz he would have Joey badazz cry like no that’s my opinion on this situation like respect 90s hiphop 🔥
2Pac had great lyrics, that was actually his strength. Nigga was deep.
I would not listen to Joey Badazz. I can listen to Tupac any day all this time later.
"Street Fame" is one of 2pac's most LYRICAL songs tho
That’s because PAC wasn’t just rhyming for rhymes sake. His shit meant so much. He was more focused on substance.
Awesome comment, agree 💯👍
Tupac was a great poet..very charizmatic, articulate and intelligent ,wtf are you talking about..of course he was a GREAT lyricist and that fact should never be questioned.
You know what i mmheeean🐑🐑 love this haha
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Lmao
Tupac was the best lyricist...And still is.
Pac was for the people. He inspired and uplifted the oppressed people with all his albums EXCEPT All Eyes On Me. Not saying that album wasn't 🔥🔥🔥 but he was on is revenge shit but after that he got back to the people with Makaveli
listen to "Me and My Girlfriend"
"Only Fear of Death"
"If I Die 2Nite"
"Still I Rise" (Story telling song but has lyrical content)
"Fuck the World"
Pac was lyrical but his style isn't that. He all about a message and delivery he didn't need to be Lyrical to be the GOAT. His energy, passion, delivery, flow, songwriting and story telling made him the GOAT. These Rappers these days don't do that except KDot and JCole and others
D Wavy Exactly
DMX actually had lyrics and wordplay though.
TKO DA ALMIGHTY they don't listen to him
Sometimes the greatest lyrics are the ones you finally hear after numerous times listening to a song. Pac is more lyrical than people think.
New drinking game: every time Jamar says "you nah what I mean" take a shot
I'm sick of people saying he wasn't lyrical he was very lyrical with the way he put his words together
and rip the goat tupac!!🙏🙏
Honestly, Tupac is the greatest of all time. Idgaf what anybody says 💯💯
Loved how Lord Jamar G check DJVlad, he always goes off on a tangent
where df' is the full interview?
People overlooking the Makaveli album. Also the song "first to bomb" which is unreleased is lyrically crazy by pac.
Y'all that say Joey is better than Pac remember that Joey got washed by Troy Average in there rap battle so hush
Big lew
"I desTROY AVErage rappers"
No. just no.
Gemini050788 "but nobody cares"
Big lew ahh helll nawww, no he didnt bro😂😂😂
Big lew You may be the only person that has that opinion
Big lew L
PAC was the greatest rapper to do it and will always be the greatest rapper. He articulated every word and hd a vocabulary !! Lyricist !!
dope interview!!
2pac WAS the best lyricist just because he made you feel more :)
tupac was a lyricist. was he a better one then biggie, no. but he had different attributes to make him a goat, just like big
el jefe He was absolutely 100% in EVERY way a better lyricist than Biggie. Biggie had a great flow, and his rhyme structures were great, his lyrics were average at the best of times.
YourPalHDee PAC was never the better lyrist than biggie but PAC is still a legend not taking anything away
el jefe
I think you need to listen to more 2pac songs, honestly their wasn't a difference in lyrical ability
I let my tape rock till my tape pop!
smoking on bamboo sipping on private stock!
way back whrn I had the red and black lumberjack,
with the hat to match.
that was considered lyrical back then?
it sounded cool because he had a dope voice and the way he flowed to the beat was fucking immaculate, but those lyrics are terrible, all single syllable rhymes with a strong disconnect in their content, like, line A barely relates to B.
Ye 2pac is a better lyricist than biggie. Biggie even copied 2pacs early 2pacalypse/strictly 4 my niggaz flow. Plus biggie only had what 3 albums while alive, 2 solo and 1 with his group. Biggie just raps about irrelevant stuff just to flow. Then you should obviously listen to Craig G then because biggie drew a lot of influence from him.
We love Tupac because he’s real , he’s honest. All these rappers music is plain , has no filler, nothing but words Pacs music is life ! He has real life gems . Joey only point is he can spit more words but Pacs words has meaning .
lord jamar and starr need another interview together
The reason why 2pac will be top 5 of all time is because nearly every song he made had a message, his music was from his soul, no bullshit, straight from the heart. He will make you relate to him. 2pac isn't just an artist, he's an icon. The closest nigga since pac died who made songs straight from his heart is DMX, shame not enough people know about X because of his issues in private life, but man X is powerful af. Definitely one of the best hip hop artists especially in his ruff ryders days.
you know vlad was just waiting to use that A Z line lol
haha "how did we get here, vlad?"
I’m sick of people acting like 2pac wasn’t nice with his pen. He was lyrical.
2Pac was one of the best lyricist and he made you feel it. People who are hardcore Rap Fans know this