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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Lord Jamar addressed DJ Vlad telling Marc Lamont Hill that he doesn't think Black Thought is a top emcee, which Jamar completely disagreed with. The Brand Nubian rapper explained that Black Thought isn't the type of rapper who should be compared to the likes of Jay Z, Biggie, or big commercial artists. He added that Black Thought is a pure hip-hop artist that is one of the top lyricists in the game when you look solely at his skills.
During the conversation, Lord Jamar also shared his thoughts on the presidential race being a popularity contest, which you can hear more about in the above clip.
Go ask any MC if they want it with Black Thought.
Exactly.
Markus Elstob word that's why the whole industry was mad at the Roots for the what they do video and song, but no one got at them on the Mic And no one stepped to them in the streets black thought hold weight
Markus Elstob No MC...including Marshall!
Word!! They don't want no parts of Black Thought.
Markus Elstob my life savings on black thoughts....put any rapper in front of him and see what happens!
Word!!!!!!
I am starting to believe that Vlad does not really understand the intellectual significance of hip-hop.
culture vulture
TheHedge he doesn't know hip hop
TheHedge I think you're right. TI over Black Thought? Vlad is trippin.
He can't!! Said Black Thought wouldn't even be top 20??? crazy def top 10!!
TheHedge he doesn't
“Unsung, underrated, under-appreciated, the one them underachievers had underestimated” ~Black Thought
"Guess it's just philly signing...rock roller, bipolar like Phyllis Hyman"....
Maaaan...!
"rising up out of the flames like a phoenix, straining to carry the weight of my brain like a genius."
Vlad can't comprehend the level Black Thought is on.
on point
Black thought rap circles around jay z. FACTS
Factsz
Yes indeed
😂😂😂
They are one in the same. Black Thought is the only person that could challenge Jay-Z bar for bar. Period.
@@slim360720 Lol GZA, Ghostface, Lupe, Nasty-fucking-NAS, MF-motherfucking-DOOM!!!! all better than Jay, bar for bar.
Never heard a whack verse from Black Thought...
Big L shut the fuck up, not even a good troll
Big L you created a whole TH-cam page pretending to be a dead nigga, you a special breed of weirdo
EVER
NEWVER EVER EVE
R heard a wack verse from Thought
EVER
Black Thought is a lyrical genius!!! Vlad is a joke
Marc Lewis Vlad dont understand black thought lyrics...
Vlad is nothing but a troll....
Marc Lewis don't forget culture vulture
Black Thought is pure uncut hip hop and musical genius. hip hop should be as proud of the roots as we are proud of Jay Z. The broke through the wall. legends!!!
Vlad don't know anything about the culture... He just making money off it!!
Black thought Is elite
REALLY?!!!????
I can't even think of one bar by B. T.
A few bars I can pick from Black Thought just off the top of my head, "I never show signs of fatigue or turn tired
cause I'm the definition of tragedy turned triumph
It's David and Goliath, I made it to the eye of
the storm, feeling torn like they fed me to the lions
Before my time start to wind down like the Mayans
I show 'em how I got the grind down like a science
It sounds like a riot on hush, it's so quiet
The only thing I hear is my heart, I'm inspired
by the challenge that I find myself standing eye to eye with
Then move like a wise warrior and not a coward".
FYVE 5” I go above and beyond, the duty called, truly y'all
Even though they kind of blew me off like a booty call
Ask me if I'm just another mouli or a movie star
Forced to face the music like a graduate of Juilliard”
“Gravedigger, dig a hole that fit a black nigga
My body's stiff as a Madame Tussaud's wax figure
My transformation: a caterpillar from crack dealer And backpedaller was no less, than spectactular
Yeah I was trappin' money, flippin' like a spatula
Now put that sucker in a box like Dracula”
There’s a lot more tbh
Marion fyve Coath it's cause he don't dumb it down for dumb people dumbass
All of Vlads “credibility” is gone now. Dude is a joke. Black Thought is a King among Kings
What credibility did he have?? Anyone who takes this dude Vlad word, when it comes to Hip Hop, is a moron.
@@DiggumSmack77 Right! I actually thought those were LJ's thoughts when reading the caption bc.......who gaf what Vlad thinks?
Your comment has aged quite well...
@@azulsteel---4650 I wish niggas would stop saying that then not giving a reason for saying like everyone supposed to know what they mean
That’s the first thing I thought. I was like, “Black Thought’s not even top 50?!?! I ain’t watching no more Vlad TV....fuxx it!”
Black Thought is a genius and worthy to be in the conversation of top ten lyricists of all time. If you're upset that anyone puts Black Thought in their top 10 or even top 5, then you don't understand hip hop. Period.
Amen
YES SIR BUT UNFORTUNATELY MOST PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND HIP HOP!
Word, on some real shit you can't be mad if someone put thought as THE NUMBER ONE!!!! Even if you have a different number one I would be like..... uhhh OK OK I see why you said that !
Even if you're looking at discography only he's still a top 10.
Agreed. Simple and Sweet
Black Thought is a purist when it comes to EmCeeing... he is Hip Hop in its essence... 💯
Vlad has no credibility in hip hop if he doesn't think Black Thought is a top MC.
Word! Dude corny asf
he got no cred PERIOD
This dude just said "I wouldn't put him in my top 50." That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard a human being say about anything..
LOL, absolutely beautiful comment, you didn't waste one word👌🏾👍🏽
I'm loving how Jamar has to visibly restrain himself because he is so offended and is really struggeling to find the right words to describe how wrong vlad is on this one. That level of respect is just mind blowing. "I'm telling you: Don't front on Black Thought."
Props!
Vlad stick to asking the questions because Black Thought is beyond your comprehension. Factz💯
Samoya Peterkin, I totally agree wit u!!
perfection in a comment right here
no bullshit
On god
Black Thought is your favorite Emcees Favorite Emcee.
indy5ivehundred That would be Kool G Rap
indy5ivehundred or scarface
Indy5, Real6, Ant Lee: Black Thought, G Rap, and Face! Man I smile when I think about the thoughtfulness of their lyrics. No games or gimmicks, just straight rhymes, they are what that element of MC'ing is all about.. If the right producer, not just a beat maker, but a producer could get them together. Wow! Maybe Buckwild, Bronze Nazareth, No ID, Black Milk, Preemo, Pete Rock, Large Professor, Madlib, Erick Sermon .... If there are guest appearances, it's got to be AZ, Treach, Em, Dice Raw, Elzhi, Rass Kass... IDK, but something to spark a convo!
indy5ivehundred MF DOOM*
Nope.
Black Thought is one of the greatest ever. How is this in question?
Black Thought is godly fuck vlaad
Arguably THE greatest
Exactly it's facts bro
Thought is definitely in my top 5 MC’s of all time.
Ever
Thought's breath control alone blows most mcs out the building. foh Vlad
Peep that black thought freestyle with fmf.. shits iinsane
His newest freestyle just shitted on every rapper from '77-'17
just came back after watching that shit
Ric o his heart palpitation is top 5
He went Samurai Ape$#!t on that joint, displaying the top physical ability of circular breathing at its finest!
I think that this line was a shot for Vlad to appreciate "...I ain't one of y'all peers, I'm the sum of all fears, somebody stronger than me? who dat?? I'm all ears...". foh Vlad
Vlad Bugging !
Black Thought Is ya favorite rappers favorite rapper...
Word
Bleek Cartier believe that
Vlad is a clown...
Pun got Black Thought on his debut album cuz he he knew his skills on the mic
Vlad.... huh?
How is Black Thought NOT a top MC when he is literally the BLUE PRINT of what an MC is???
#TRUTH
Kovert X Daaayum. Straight TRUTH through tha roof right there bro!
You reaching on that. He is elite tho
Lilo Mac nah you bugging
He’s a B-Boy
Listening to Black Thought is like reading a good book and finishing it in a week and reflect on it for the rest of your life because you have taken away so much that you have to reflect upon to help you becoming who you are on you search to life
Illadelph halflife is top 3 greatest hip hop albums ever next to atliens
Black thought bodies all contemporary mcs hands down..
Vlad hasn't listened to Black Thought. He just showed me that he isn't a real hip hop head. For him to not say Black Thought isn't a top MC is like saying Michael Jackson wasn't a great dancer...
Jay Murthy Vlad is a dipshit.
for real man. And he said Beanie Sigel is a better MC... that's some bullshit. I bet he changes his mind after Black Thought dropped the best freestyle of the year
Black Thought the most underrated lyricist ever
Vlad loses a lot of credibility when he makes dumb statements like that, BLACK THOUGHT is dope.
I wasn’t aware that he had any credibility. He curates a video montage of cultural decay. Of course he doesn’t think Black Thought is a top MC.
He never said he wasn’t dope, he said he’s not in his top level of mcs. What’s wrong with that? There’s a lot of top level mcs throughout of history
In the wake of Black's recent Flex freestyle, this is hilarious.
Frank Maphoto fam, in the wake of the shit Thought did back in the early 90s, made this comment from,vlad stupid asf..go listen to the classic album, iladeph Half-Life, from 96.....that was 22 years ago
Bro! I've had enough of this dude.
Frank Maphoto in the wake of black thoughts 27 year career, this is hilarious..
Even without the freestyle
Frank Maphoto it was hilarious before that
The way Jamar talks so passionately about Black Thought is so beautiful! Then he pauses... Wow! That's love! I love it!
But if black thought was white...
@@user-tm8vx8qs7p he'd be White Thought
NEEKZ81 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@NEEKZ81 lol white thought
Born in Knowledge and supreme in the overstanding
black thought is def top mc tho! he could rap circles around most dudes out now and probably has been able to do so for 20+ years
he can rap circles around all of them.
lol! my friend told me that when he ask people about their top 5 MCs. We are the only ones that put Black Thought in their top 5. But i think a lot of people overlook him.
and i aint from Philly.
TX actually
from what i personally listen to.
1. Biggie / Pac
2. ATCQ(Count them as 1)5' Assassin)
3. Andre3000
4.Black Thought
5. Killer Mike(BangX3)
Lord Jamar is struggling to explain to Vlad that Black Thought is like a God level quintessential MC. He's the very essence of Mceeing without all the flashy stuff and hot beats. He's a pure artist and it's time people recognize the man's skill level.
No way anyone can objectively say Black Thought is not a top emcee. This is really baffling lmao. When it comes to every facets of being an emcee, Black Thought excels in it all. Lyricism, flow, cadence, mic presence, writing, use of literary devices, vocal tone, etc. You cannot defend any statement that claims he is not in that category. Vlad's couldn't even explain his reasoning, just spoke in broad, vague rhetoric that didn't explain shit at all.
Top 10 lyricts ever!
Dude said T.I. was a better rapper 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who let Vlad in the community? Why does he have a voice? Excommunicate him immediately.
Al Maurikan he has to GO. Thought not Top mc??? He's immediately dead to me. And he just called Guru and Jazzmatazz wack. I hate him.
Add in "DJ" Wackademiks
You know l clicked on this just to pose that question. Salute.
Facts
Al Maurikan Thank you!
Vlad lost all creditabilty
Champ Ro *CREDIBILITY bruh...
Hasn't had that for a loooonnnggg time.
He Never had it.
Add me to the list of fuck outta here Vlad with that bullshit!! Black Thought is like orange juice in a can pure “concentrated” mc no water added
That too!😂😹😂😹
Vlad legit understands nothing about hip-hop
No other emcee has a powerful vocal presence on live shows like Black Thought (KrsOne comes close), apart from hes ability to fully exploit the english vocabulary. Vlad is crazy
K rino
Umuntu live is when they really shine.
I would rather see the roots live than Has he's horrible live. Jay z is actually dope live too I have a lot of respect for the live show. RedMan and Meth too!!!
I would rather see the roots live than Has he's horrible live. Jay z is actually dope live too I have a lot of respect for the live show. RedMan and Meth too!!!
Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane, Willie D, LL Cool J, etc.
j Cole is not better than black thought.
gruger08 #facts!
gruger08 he was wilding for that statement. I'm like... This dude be talking out the side of his neck.
gruger08 Hell nah he's not and j Cole will say so too
j cole isnt even better than drake lmao
Sure he is, everyone is better than drake lmao
Am I wrong for thinking this discussion is disrespectful to hiphop? Or at least to the contribution of Black Thought? What grounds is his greatness legitimately in question? What rubric? Vlads fake opinion strikes again, and we're left defending artists that need no defense, the culture moves down...vlads views move up... (I'm guilty too bcuz I watched the shit)
Darryl Wilson Word!
Darryl Wilson damn good point. Yes vlads views went up and so did black thought’s stock dit too because people looked him up and formed they own opinion. And Anybody with sense disagreed with vlad after hearing Black Thought. everybody Go watch Black Thought On Funk Flex NOW. But I️ def agree with you bro.
NO YOU'RE NOT WRONG,IT WAS VERY DISRESPECTFUL...IF I EVER SEE VLAD I MAY PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE FOR DISRESPECTING THE CULTURE....
Darryl Wilson you just said it perfectly.
This is why we consider Vlad a fucking vulture. He reinforces the shit the kills hip hop
Black Thought is a Hip Hop Hidden Gem My Friend.
Hidden in plain sight 👌🏾
Wise Intelligent even said that Thought was criminally underrated.and i agree
@@stephenheath8465 So Very True My Friend!!!
@@stephenheath8465 Wise Intelligent is nice as well.
you can tell although vlad may listen to hip-hop but he don't study the culture.
Rapists don't study they just take.
Mark Garza WHITE lost their credibility when ya lied to black people about their history we not listening to WHITE folks at all
Frank Lawrence w
corey thomas well said. lol
Frank Lawrence He to busy stealing it
Vlad is a clown!!! Black Thought killed "Super Lyrical" on Big Pun's Capital Punishment album!
Terri Alexander #facts!!! My dude just said that b4 I saw ur comment! #ressspek!!!
Yo, I was just thinking about that track. Fucking monster track.
And he admitted that this performance with Pun was one that he would love another shot at. It is the only verse I ever thought..."damn Thought could have went harder..." and it was still dope.
Black Thought is my favorite emcee. That is the only record that he got out shined on. That verse doesn't even sound right with Puns verses on a song called "Super Lyrical". It sounds good by itself just not in contrast to Puns contribution.
Exactly plus he bodied the BET cipher with Vlad boy Em
Most underrated emcees of ALL TIME!!!
Black Thought
Mos def
Talib Kweli
Common
1Hunna News you got that right
1Hunna News You left out Pharaoh Monche
1Hunna News common be
1Hunna News worst dressed Rappers of all time...No Sauce...
I heard that that title belongs to AZ.
Real hip hop heads have black thought on there top list.
Thought is top five all time and I'm trying to give the greats that got more mainstream love a chance
I need albums
@@mrbigrzl the first four roots albums are enough.
big fat obese facts!!
vlad is fuvking bugging
No way T.I. is better than Black Thought! And I'm a huge T.I fan. I too totally agree with Lord Jamar, Black Thought trashes Eminem.
uptownslim717 agreed
uptownslim717 same
uptownslim717 TI ain't even in the top 30.
They both top tier dope emcess but thought not washing Eminem. 2 very different rappers, thought could never make a til I collapse,lose yourself. And em could never drop knowledge on tracks like a Harvard professor
Well Hung exactly! They’re different, but even if you still want to compare, none of them is washing the other.
Black Thought is a top 5 MC....Cmon not even in your top 50? So you can name 50 MC's that are better? He named TI...lost all his points.
Rob DJ Ville I said the same thing.........TI!!!?¿???!!!!
Rob DJ Ville I personally would put TI in my top 30 or so but he's still trippin lol
Rob DJ Ville Word fam. I had the same reaction. Somebody please tell him his license to critique hip-hop has been revoked.
Vlad has already been suspect after certain topics that he covers...but when he said Blackthought is not even in the top 50, it reminded me why I haven't been on a video in 9 months.lol Hope he reads about his tomfoolery.
Rob DJ Ville fuck no I can name 50 emcees from New York alone that are better than ti. Then when it comes the the south he’s barely in the top 10.
Culture vultures hating on one of our g.o.a.t..
I know..
Black Thought is top 5 worthy off of straight skill
He been in the game 20-25 years and has yet to spit a mediocre verse, not even a bad verse.
I mean I remember I think 2014 when he went crazy on them features
Rapid Eye Movement (he managed to outshine Pharoahe fucking Monch)
Bird's Eye View
The Imperial
Those were like 3 verse of the year contenders
Soultronics And Pharaoh is up their too!!!
Vernell Thomas ^^Yessir
Soultronics THANK YOU!!! HE BODIES EVERYONE ON EVERY TRACK. NOBODY'S FUCKIN WIT HIM AT ALL! I JUST SAID THE SAME SHIT TOO ABOUT HIS CATALOG. HE NEVER CAME WEAK, KILLED EVERY VERSE HE EVER SPIT! THERE'S A MIXTAPE ON DATPIFF W/77.. 77 TRACKS AND EVERYONE IS NASTY AF!! AND HE GOT WAAY MORE. PLUS HE KEEPS IMPROVING! WHEN HE DROPS A SOLO IT'S CURTAINS 4 EVERYBODY... #TOP5ALIVE EASY.💯
I been saying, Thought has never had a wack verse ever.
Guru was nice. Very underrated. Word to the wise, you don't gotta rate everybody
Kingly Done he's my top fav MC mad underrated
C-MC Official yeah vlad, thinks Hip Hop started with; Nas, Biggie, Jay Z. Clueless
Guru had more range n doper concepts more than attacking wack rappers n being lyrical miracle like Black Thought lol
Everything ain't about better. And Jay Z, not one my favorites, but he was nice.
Yup, Dope since, 'These are the Words that I Manifest.'
Black Thoughts is one greatest M.C.s no if and or buts about it.
Black Thoughts and Guru are the most underrated M.C.s.R.I.P. Guru!
Big up to Lord Jamar for recognizing that Black thought is a flame thrower 🔥
IF BLACK THOUGHT NOT IN YOUR TOP 5, YOU ARE LISTENING TO R&B!
I hesitate to so much as name it in the same genre but; i say if Black Thought is not in your top 5 in truth you're listening to mumble "rap"... soo so sad
Thought doesn't have to be in your top 5 in my opinion though. There are at the absolute very least fifty or a hundred artists (thinking about it now I am curious as to roughly how many there truly are) for whom a case could be made that they deserve to be in the top 5. So while I disagree I don't think Thought HAS to be in anyone's top 5...but top ten? Top twenty!!?! I can't believe he said not even his top fifty...that is simply disgusting.
If you dont have thougt in your top 5 then you have absolutley NO BINISS HAVIN A DAMN LIST.
SoulofPimpC bet vlad changed his mind now
SoulofPimpC he in my top Ten . My Top 5
5. Jay-Z
4. Nas
3. Common/Biggie/Tupac ( Because I grew up on Eastcoast hip hop but, I’m from Cincinnati Ohio)
2. Run-Dmc
1. LL Cool J
Black Thought is the Kawhi Leonard of MCs. Underrated as hell
humanparadox pretty accurate analogy
Ah, that comparison was perfect.
great comparison
kawhi aint underrated just quiet.
more like the John Stockton of MCs,great but never talked about.
Lord Jamar is right. Even though Jay-z, Nas, T.I., etc...are dope. There is a difference between the art and the flash and charisma. Black Thought, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, and so on are in a different class. Not a BETTER class, just different. " If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli". Jay-Z
"..Common Sense..." - Jay-Z
Jay couldn't if he wanted to... but Jamar was sorta making this point, it almost doesn't make sense to try to rank MCs on one scale when there are so many different types of MCs.
rtwhite1546 you obviously sleep on Jay
It's not possible Talib is just a better lyricist than Jay?
rtwhite1546 very possible. But the way you worded it made it seem like youre another "fuck gay z !!! Illuminati he sucks eminem killed him !!!!" Type of guy lol
Listening to Vlad shows you why deserving actors don't be bringing home Oscars.
VLAD the culture Impaler, smh... Black Thought in the stratosphere as Royce, GZA, DOOM, Kool G Rap, Tech 9ine, Deck...all the hardcore lyrical BEASTS!
willest1, u hit it on da nose!
+T Raa
This is the same guy who defended Fergie being on a top female rappers list a few years back and his defense for that was the track "Fergalicious" Honestly, I don't understand why people are so shocked by Vlad anymore XD. All you have to do is go back to that video.
"Not even in my top 50".
Some of the most ridiculous shit he's ever said. And he's said a lotta ridiculous shit.
thatstheguy07 You can put Black Thought resume up against ANY MCee and he'll hold his own !!
Vlad also said 2 Chainz is a real lyricist
Stetsasonic first hip hop.live band. Down with that Paul dude who produced DeLaSoul.
I respect Roots too.
Azzury Street Yes
2 Chainz is one of the worst rappers ever
"She got a big booty, so i call her big booty" lol
Drew SMH
Drew nuff said
This is the interview that made me hate vlad, just because he showed how he is a fuq dude. Then pulled out that agree to disagree. Then he said Eminem, Beanie, and TI are better than black thought.
Em I can see an argument for but no way TI or Beanie are better
As a Rakim and Nas fan... eye truly know real Hip Hop. With that said... for dude to say TI is better than Black Thought... he is clearly on some wack as crack shit. Thought is a BEAST on the mic... and without it!
Exactly. I don't put much over the God MC and God's Son, But what he did to that mic on 97 locked him in at number one IMO. That freestyle was like watching a man transcend into Godhood.
T.i in his 2nd life not on black thought level....heifers don't kno real hip hop..dats dat.💯💯
@@jamaaldavis6456 T.I. a hip hop legend though but Black Thought man... WOOAH fucking superb lyricist
@NoNoNoNii 🤣🤣🤣
you made your point heard when you said ti is better than thought. that is literally crack!
j cole? tupac? ti? emeniem? beanie sigel? Black Thought surpasses them lyrically + he's a freestyle MC! vlad is WAY off ramp! FOH vlad! and Guru is dope ass MC!
black thought is one of the finest we have alive Vlad
IS
The way Jamar pauses exactly describes Thought's presence in the game! His bars transcends everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never heard a bad Black Thought Verse.
RagEyes NJ .... well when you do your research Enjoy your self. .. I'm pretty sure you Will .You will definitely have a new perspective on Hip-Hop because of Black Thought ... good, bad, indifferent , trust me !
1manone1 I'm pretty sure I'v heard every Black Thought verse, feat, and def Every Roots album....Never really heard him spit a bad verse. Maybe a few where the beats weren't quite right, but never have a heard a "bad" verse from Black Thought
RagEyesNJ, sorry bout that! I thought u was sayin u never heard a Black Thought verse! misunderstanding! my apologies!!
West Philly Bull, lol its all good I feel you.
Good ass question
10 Minute Freestyle! Black Thought is Elite!
UCANTCEEME Gamer In one take
Even his freestyles on tony touch show and sway with method man
Black thought top 5 lyricist period. Vlad trippin
would u say he's better than canibus
ryanr20091 Canibus is nasty....on albums...just don't let the planters peanut head nigga pull out his notepad.
ryanr20091 hell fucking yeah..
1. Black Thought
2. Nas
3. Andre3k
4. MFDoom
5.Rakim
Lol. Mine is close.
Biggie
Nas
Black Thought
MF DOOM
Em
THIS NIGGGA PUT THOGHT NAS and andre above DOOM LOLOLOL
@@mfdoom163 they are all better than doom
If Black Thought release a solo album with a couple of nice producers around him he would put the majority of these new rappers in his pocket.
Dj Soares FACTS!!! Just said this the other day. I hope he does. He's definitely put in the work with the Roots.
Dj Soares It wouldn't sell or get any radio play though because the youth are the ones who actually listen to hip hop and we want mumble rap and trap beats.
I understand u. But even then, he would be another one to try to push the real lyricism into the mainstream such as Kendrick, Cole and a few others. I'm quite sure he doesn't really have this ambition, but i think he would do a great job dropping some records outside of The Roots.
Dj Soares That's real!!! I think he chooses to stay out of the mainstream and be respected by your favorite rappers.
Black Thought IS better than eminem. Jamar is right for once.
fuck nah... he is amazing top 20, but not better than em
Mony Ma I wouldn't put eminem top 20
Andrew Hedstrom I agree mainly because Black Thought is def more of a poet, songwriter, who got bars. Personally I prefer this type of emcee. But when it comes to technical ability and being a word smith/spitter Eminem is one of if not the best one to ever do it. But I listen to more Roots than Em. If I do listen to Em its his hard 64 bar crazy flow shit, like I dont give me fuck, groundhog day etc....
He is better than Em, but Em great too. I don't fuck with Em though, not my taste.
Andrew Hedstrom on the technical part NO... not even on the vocabulary or creative or diverse part of it.
Vlad compared j Cole to jay z and KRS one. nuff said
jacob gonzales Word.
jacob gonzales J.Cole has become the most overrated dude in the game right now...
EXACTLY. I thought I was the only one who caught that shit.
Notorious B.I.G botha y'all insane
Vlad's opinion about Thought has aged like milk since this video was released.
Black Thought makes shit rhyme that has no business rhyming. Unless you know what it's like to write rhymes, you may not notice this subtlety or how difficult or even how unlikely it is to consider rhyming like that. I can't think of anyone who does this better than him, now that I think about it. Rhyming is an artform so some people will get it and some won't. Ask the great MCs and I promise every one of them will acknowledge that Black Thought is WITHOUT A DOUBT, one of the greatest MCs of all time. What I mentioned is only one of his attributes, but if you reverse-engineered his rhymes, you will see what I mean with more clarity.
facts.....BT is a certified beast
Eminem is one
Bruce Ervin Better than Em... I agree...
BEANIE GOT SHINE THROUGH BLACK AND THE ROOTS.
only 2 KRS and Rakim
Jay z and jcole they ain't close to black thought
FTSKOBE this nigga Vlad not sleep hes in a coma..
Only jayz reasonable doubt was on thoughts level...hes fallen drastically since then...
Only brought up rd cause jay was insanely lyrical with metaphors and his rhyme schemes and just the shit he was saying...he hasnt been rd level ever since
@@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicKcan you give me a good Jay z song?
@@livingashtree1942 theres alot
D'evils
Can i live
Brooklyns finest
Dead presidents 2
Feeling it
Cant knock the hustle
Regrets
Those are my fav...all from one my fav albums reasonable doubt
Living Ash Tree all of reasonable doubt is good songs
jcole better than black thought???? GTFOH!!!!
royuncg2 right j cole is barley above average
I turned the video off when he said that
royuncg2 J Cole either gets put into the brackets of GOAT or WOAT
Troy Cummings that doesn't even make sense
People either see Cole as one of the best to touch the Mic, or absolute trash
Black Thought is a top MC. Period. He brings a level of intellectualism to hip-hop unmatched by any other MC. He has been doing it for years. Lord Jamar is spot on when he said Black Thought has bars and bars and bars. Dude will go on for days. If someone claims to be a hip-hop fan and doesn't know who Black Thought is or gives him the proper respect he deserves as an MC, then that person loses all credibility with me. Vlad included.
That Flex freestyle.. He said stuff that you have to go back and listen to and he did it in ONE TAKE!! Shut up Vlad!!
Everybodies entitled to their opinion, but to say TI is better than black thought shows some serious ignorance on vlads part, and also speaks to the volume of how hard people really sleep on black thought and also don't listen to his lyrics, any resaonable mind cant listen to black thought and not see him as a top lyricist.
Masters of our fate ....Black Thought went the fuck off
Lol Lol the problem with rappers like thought is he just cant seem to move the ppl,its like his delivery is boring and to be the goat you gotta move the ppl.
+The Real DayOnez ur clearly confused!
The Real DayOnez. You want people to dance? Who dances to top mcs?
The Real DayOnez have you ever been to a roots concert,moving the people is what they were born to do, people like though and lupe are lyrical beasts and crush concerts. The lyrical niggas whi can't move people are like king los.
lite daya7 concerts move everybody lol its a concert its suppose to be loud and fun.im talking about on wax and black thought lyrics not the hook or roots.were talking about just his flow on a beat.
Black Thought is undeniably one of the greatest lyricists on or off earth for all eternity before now and after. Period.
vlad tripping about putting J Cole over black thought. buggin!
People aint even counting LIVE CONCERT SHOWS as a criteria for top emcee (MC = MOVE THE CROWD) And Black Thought and the Roots have one of the BEST shows in not just hip-hop....but ALL GENRES of MUSIC....this is what people don't want to understand.
dn30001 Truth! Black is the definition of a real M.C. No chains and gimmicks. If you haven't witnessed a live show or are a true Roots fan you don't have a clue.
dn30001 it actually stands for microphone controller. a few rappers used mc as a pun for move the crowd. but I see your point
J P MC = master of ceremony = Mic controller = move the crowd.....as it pertains to original hip-hop from its infancy
same shit..
but Thought does all of these FLAWLESSLY. my point is that Vlad based his faves based on popularity. Thought isn't as popular as most people's favorites BUT he WILL give you a waaaay better show for your money than any emcee or rapper if you catch the Roots live show. And this is done with straight up bars and vocals without gimmicks, dancers, lights, or any other theatrics that ANY other pop act can give you today.
and This is BESIDES his skill as just a studio lyricist.
shit...people forget that Thought's freestyle off the top game is better than 90% of peoples best writtens. But that ALSO besides his skill as just a "studio album" emcee
facts
Some people are attracted to lyrics that are constructive, critically well thought, intelligent, informative, dignified, self respecting and edifying.
Vlad is not one of those people.
@@darrel7589 “you can get any of that from any MC” is a statement of possibility or potential, but the reality is that few MC’s actually demonstrate that they can produce the quality of content that is evident in Black Thougjt’s lyrics.
Next. The implication of Vlad’s statement is that he must not have appreciation enough for the style of lyricism that Black Thought delivers, therefore he does not rate him in the top ten. I didn’t say anything about Vlad not liking Black Thought.
Rakim, Thought, and MF DOOM ... vs Everyone!
Im completely with that!!!
fuck yea
matter fact.. im about to make a playlist !
If this happened, there would be no survivors.
(A):
1) Rakim,
2) Big Daddy Kane,
3) Nas,
4) Black Thought,
5) GZA,
6) Elzhi,
7) Jeru The Damaja,
8) MF Doom,
9) KRS One,
10) Planet Asia,
11) Andre 3000,
12) Jay Electronica,
13) Method Man,
14) Big Boi,
15) DJ Quik,
16) Redman,
17) Kurupt,
18) Common,
19) Jadakiss,
20) Kool G Rap,
21) Scarface,
22) Beanie Sigel,
23) WC,
24) Treach,
25) Brotha Lynch Hung,
26) Freddie Gibbs,
27) Z-Ro,
28) Playa Fly,
29) Trae The Truth,
30) Masta Ace,
31) CL Smooth.
** Unsubscribes and listens to Black Thought's newest HOT 97 freestyle with middle fingers waving in the air **
@djvlad your opinions are like a soundsystem with all treble................baseless!
BARZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Give Vlad a retro Donkey of the Day 😂😂😂. Black Thought just shitted on you 🙄🙄🙄
I literally signed in and had to change my password just to say out loud and publicly that Vlad is whack for saying that mess. Interviews may be his thing, but true hip hop isn’t. You knew it as soon as he compared Thought to Jay Z and Big. 🤣😂 this was the most ridiculous thing I ever heard
Black Thought is in my Top 10 Emcees no doubt!
So... do i vote this up because of Lord Jamar.. or vote it down because Vlad is talking stupid?
I'm with you on that one. Idk.
Down because that shit Vlad said was ridiculous.
Brian Grabell
U can read minds nigga. Im still deciding
down. Jamar know we fuck with him.
Lord Jamar SCHOOOOOOOOOLED YOU.
Lord Jamar defended Black Thought?!?! This might be the first time I like a video he was in. 🤣
He is (one of) the greatest, because he never does what they do
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm from DC, and when I was 15 back in 2000, Things Fall Apart was my first REAL hip-hop album. It wasn't a cheap CD either, I think I paid $20 for it!! As soon as I loaded it into my stereo, that quote from Mo' Better Blues, which really goes to show you how smart The Roots really are, and how privy they are to this ancient argument about them and Black Thought... Anyway, then tracks 2 - 18: DOPE DOPE DOPE DOPE DOPENESS was injected into my brain! It was the first time rhymes affected me in such a way that I wanted to immediately learn every single word in every song so I could rap along. It was the first time I admired an emcee's delivery, tone, emphasis, flow, conviction, imagination, and wordplay. "When the Fifth do get on and perform, you in for it/It ain't no way to cen-sor it, my style metaphoric/To bricks and ten tons stacks hard to lift!" I always imagine all the stacks of bricks with that line! Furthermore, it was the first time, upon listening to any album that I immediately wanted to run out to see the show, and when I did I wasn't disappointed AT ALL!!! Shout out to 9:30 Club December 2000!
TARIQ TROTTER aka BLACK THOUGHT is a tenured sensei. He's been on a NEW LEVEL waaaaaay before A$AP Ferg. Black once said, "Push pen to paper like Chinua Achebe." So, look. If you don't like emcees who have completely MASTERED the art form of RAP, intricately weaving together simple to complex concepts in order to tell all kinds of stories so that it comes off as exquisitely effortless, then Black Thought is not for you. At least not yet, I'm actually a little worried because you might be suffering from "malnutrition," by being fed basic raps. It could take some time for you to work your way up to SOLID food, but eventually you'll get there, and be enjoying that home cooked soul food with the rest of us, no additives or preservatives! #PPD #LongLiveBlack #Peace&Blessings
J VK fam vlad don’t know the science
Step into the Realm you bound to get caught!!!! And from this worldly life you’ll soon depart part part!!!!!
I'm glad that Jamar said this before the freestyle too because a lot of people been jumping on the BT wave as of late.
facts. that freestyle was fire- but its cool knowing you've been a true fan since the 1990's and then only seeing that freestyle. dude's a genius.
If Black thought was talking about selling drugs and pimpin out women and degrading the black community i guarantee you that Vlad would gave him in the top 10
Thought is the type of MC that a lot of rappers are either scared to rhyme with or they make sure to step their game up if they're gonna rhyme with him. Vlad is bugging. Thought is a rapper's rapper.
I hadn't watched this dude much since he set up Tommy Sotomayor on his show, but I saw the title to this video and watched it. Click bait at its finest, no true fan of hip-hop would utter such disrespectful words.
Fuck Dj Vlad
Tommy sotomayor? You watch that foo ? Lmao
Go watch em on that flex freestyle and remind yourself of a few things....like how lost you are for thinking Thought ain't on the lyrical Mt. Rushmore
And two of the faces might be from his left then his right!!!!!!!!
That shit was one of if not the best freestyles that have ever been performed
“Just as an MC I wouldn’t put him at the top” that’s the reason he’s at the TOP BC AS AN MC
"I think TI's a better rapper than Black Thought."
Enough said. Your opinion is based on ignorance. You are not equipped to be in this discussion.
@no one "ma guy"
You must be on drugs or you don’t know lyrics!!!!
TI is one of the most overrated of all time i dont even consider him an emcee. A rapper yes not hip hop though
You mother fuckers are crazy!!! I am from South Africa & Don't Fuck with Black thought
Vlad is on crack
"Slim Jesus is #1 MC in my book" - DJ Vlad
I dunno i think Lil Yachty has taken that spot.
I agree. I think the way that Yachty covers up his braces with grillz makes him look really tough. Wouldn't wanna get in a cypher with him
CS CUZ where he at nowadays
CS CUZ hahaha
CS CUZ baaahahahaga...now that's genius!!!!!
Black Thought is my number 10 on my top MC list. He's a beast. and when Malik B left the Roots he had the whole canvas to shine and never disappointed. His word play bananas and limitless in the topics he can cover and not lose ground lyrically. Vlad tripping
Drediggy Malik B was dangerous too! Wish he had shined a little brighter he'd definitely be legendary!!!!
It's crazy that I did the opposite. When Malik left, I didn't follow the group as much as I did with the first three albums.
Take this down....Vlad sounds foolish. Black Thought is one of the BEST MCs of all time. He spits ETHER!
Lance Payton hell yeah Black thought is the best
Vlad... check Black Thought's verse on The Imperial from Statik Selektah with Action Bronson and Royce 5'9. Then go check out his verse on Extradite on Freddie Gibbs album. That's just two recent verses that if you don't recognize his value then turn in your hip hop credentials by the end of the week.
Actually, fuck that. Check his verses on:
J Dilla - Reality TV
Skyzoo - Money Makes Us Happy
Raekwon - Masters Of Our Fate
Prhyme - Wishing pt II
Ghostface - In The Park
Styles P - Cause I'm Black
Thought might even step his game up without the Roots.
jdovma1 facts!!!!!
jdovma1 Facts. Look up "its about that time" on Pete Rocks Soul survivor album. Tariq killed it.
jdovma1 Birds Eye View on Statik Selektah 2013 album
His verse on Birds eye view is crazy as well
'My memoirs are like the Anarchist Cookbook, meets the Tom Ford Spring/Summer look book'........ one of my favourite bars of the last decade. But he did bite Vince Staples on that song as did Dave East on S.D.E.
I don'tr rate Vlad as either a top DJ or a journalist , Black Thought's contribution & dedication to hip hop is unquestionable, consistently dope