10 China Cymbals Compared - Which Is Best For You?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2020
- We’re comparing 10 of our favorite china cymbals (in-stock) head to head!
Zildjian K China Cymbal 17"
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Zildjian A Ultra-Hammered China Cymbal 19"
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Istanbul Agop Xist Power China Cymbal 18"
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Istanbul Agop Turk China Cymbal 20" 1432 grams
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Meinl Cymbals Byzance Vintage Matt Garstka 20" Equilibrium China
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Meinl Byzance Dual China Cymbal 20
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Paiste 2002 Novo China Type Cymbal 20"
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Paiste Formula 602 Modern Essentials China Cymbal 22"
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Sabian AA Holy Chinese Cymbal 21" Brilliant
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Sabian AA Holy Chinese Cymbal 17"
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True story: I see a notification that DCP uploads a new TH-cam vid, I drop what I'm doing. No joke.
Thanks, Kevin. We have a few on the way, so stay tuned!
Ha, me too!
@@drumcenternh Do guys have any china symbol for gospel
“In our never-ending quest to accommodate everyone” lol I could taste the salt on that one
Those New Hampshirites are a surly lot.
Lmfao
😂😂
@@devinftf *new hampshites
Yo over here! No, way over here. In Los Angeles. Can I get a little attenuation on the corn pone in my monitors, please. Seriously, keep doing what you're doing, and I'll keep watching. I don't envy your job one bit.
ROCK
0:53 17" Zildjian K China
1:19 19" Zildjian A Ultra-Hammered China
1:44 18" Istanbul Agop Xist Power China
2:10 20" Istanbul Agop Turk China
2:35 20" Meinl Matt Garstka Equilibrium China
3:01 20" Meinl Byzance Dual China
3:26 21" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
3:52 17" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
4:17 20" Paiste 2002 Novo China
4:43 22" Paiste Formula 602 Modern Essentials China
JAZZ
5:09 17" Zildjian K China
5:40 19" Zildjian A Ultra-Hammered China
6:12 18" Istanbul Agop Xist Power China
6:45 20" Istanbul Agop Turk China
7:18 20" Meinl Matt Garstka Equilibrium China
7:53 20" Meinl Byzance Dual China
8:27 21" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
9:00 17" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
9:34 20" Paiste 2002 Novo China
10:09 22" Paiste Formula 602 Modern Essentials China
HEAD TO HEAD
10:44 17" Zildjian K China
10:55 19" Zildjian A Ultra-Hammered China
11:08 18" Istanbul Agop Xist Power China
11:21 20" Istanbul Agop Turk China
11:34 20" Meinl Matt Garstka Equilibrium China
11:46 20" Meinl Byzance Dual China
11:58 21" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
12:12 17" Sabian AA Holy China Brilliant
12:25 20" Paiste 2002 Novo China
12:37 22" Paiste Formula 602 Modern Essentials China
Thanks for doing this! Makes it much easier
I like the 17 inch Zildjian K the best, The Paiste 602, not for me👎
Wow you have nothing but time eh ?
@@ronniek7748 yeah exactly.. paiste 602 🖓
But.. 20"meinl matt gartska 👍
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why do I keep watching drum gear videos i'm a guitarist lmao
lol dude ive got the same thing except im a drummer and watch lots of guitar videos
@@parittyolo3629 literally same, except I also watch keyboard gear videos and bass gear videos as well. I even go as far as audio gear, both studio and live. But the only field I have experience in is drums
same comment on every drumming youtube video.
I have played guitar for 35 years and now I also try to play the drums .
You want to play drums
The 20" Novo China has an awesome wash ride.
I like the Istanbul Xist and Paiste 2002. The wash on both of those 👌
That Meinl Dual 20 is my dream China! The Agop Xist is surprisingly good too
I have the 18” dual and it’s fantastic.
my dream one is the equilibrium china, but they're both outstanding cymbals
Exactly
My dream is the 20 inch Extra Dry China. It just sounds the way I imagine a good china to sound in my head
That Zildjian A Ultra-Hammered sounds just as amazing as it looks... 😮
Team Holy China!
I have one. AMAZING cymbal.
Sabian rules
Sabian's masterpiece.
Got the 19“, it’s great.
Team holy China too
These comparison videos from you guys are literally the best on TH-cam. Cheers!
That means a lot to us. Thanks, pfunk.
Paiste 602 .. amazing cymbal. I remember when I was 16 and sneaked into the local drum shop just to hear this thing. You have to hear it live. Mesmerising. Than I started working at the drum shop ..
Lars: *heavy breathing*
You know 2secs into this video he's got his hand on the kleenex box
lololol
*Every modern metal drummer has entered the chat*
LOOL hahaha too good
*lip licking intensifies*
The Turk for me was outstanding. By the way welcome back guys,hope all is well.Cant wait for demos from namm 2020. You picked up some beautiful gear.
Agree! That cymbal was phenomenal
I have the Agop Turk 20" and a Wuhan 20" from the early 80's. For my great surprise Agop wins clearly :)
Agop Turk .. absolutely!
It is well mannered with good attack and short decay giving no weird artifacts in the overtones, as it plays to every dynamic you throw at it.
As a wine taster might say, " It's arrival is flavorful, yet finishes clean without a lingering pallet."
I'm Zildjian through and through but they were a major disappointment. Their chinas were completely outclassed in this comparison. Shocked by how good the Istanbuls sound! The Sabian Holy is also sweet. Think I need to broaden my horizon!
Gareth Brewer
I’m a Zildjian man too and agree with you how disappointing they were. That Istanbul Agop Turk is beautiful though! I broadened my horizons a few years backthough and bought a Stagg Traditional 18” for just £60. One of the best chinas I’ve ever played.
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I'm a Zildjian guy but these chinas were not too good.
I had an oriental China 18 in and loved it from August burns reds messenger album my love for it grew and I got a 12in as well
Sirtomsalot
I still use an 18” Avedis Swish with rivets from the early 1990s that sounds really good. Really thin and has a tiny crack but it’s fast, trashy and musical!
Also a Zildjian guy for many years, and I have yet to find a china cymbal they make that I like. It is a glaring weakness in their lineup.
Didn’t realise how much I’d like those Istanbul’s but listening through blind those are the ones that really caught my ear, the Turk especially is gorgeous
I appreciate the time/effort you guys put into these comparison vids. Wonderful! Thx
Thank you, glad you like them!
The Zildjian Ultra-Hammered on the Jazz demo 😅
Thanks!! This was one of my requests. Great video.
"We just don't agree with your opinion".... and then the goofy smile.....that cracked me up. I smashed the LIKE button.
I liked the Meinl 20" Equilibrium and the Istanbul Turk 20" the best for either rock or jazz.
Bless you.
istanbul xist is proving to be the best professional level cymbal for a mid-level price. the 20" and 22" crashes are spectacular, and this china was definitely in the running of best sounding in this comparison..
I agree
Just picked up a 22" Xist Brilliant Crash, love it!
more cymbal comparison videos please! 😄
the matt garstka signature sounds like the china on the drum kit sounds of the first keyboard i got when i was 10. also that outro cracked me up. you guys really set the standard for comparison vids!
That Istanbul Agop Turk 20" is gorgeous sounding.
The more white noise and the less tonal quality - the better. That's my take on a "good" china cymbal. The 2 Istanbuls sounds so much better than the 2 Zildjians before it. The 2 Meinl's were pretty good aswell. First Sabian sounded fine besides a bit of low rumble, second one had too much tonal mid-range. I'm a Paiste man myself, but the Paiste china's are not what I'm looking for in a china cymbal. Far too much tonal quality. It looks like holes get rid of most of the tonal sound and/or rumble in the cymbals, which is great.
I missed Wuhan and Stagg cymbals in this comparison to be honest. I had a Stagg Traditional Lion china which was absolutely amazing.
You guys legit do the best drum/ cymbal review/ comparison videos 👌 no mucking around; just straight into it with great playing
Thanks, we appreciate it!
Love this video! Thank you so much! And the Equilibrium China is a dream cymbal for me
Thanks for doing this, it’s a great comparison. Trouble is, I’d like ALL of them!
Great video! I’ve had a 17” K China for about 15 years and this video backed up why I love it so much. The Xist, Byzance Dual and 602 were my next favorites. I was moderately disappointed by the Holy China’s and Equilibrium China - maybe just not my preferred flavor.
I would have liked to see the 18” HHX China
Great Stuff . . . Thanks for including the Jazz China Selections . . . I LOVE my 15 Zildjian Swish and wish they still made them . . . fortunately, I have two, but dread the day I have to replace them . . . this video helped.
Awesome cymbal demonstration like the crisp sound
My love, Neil Peart signature Paragon 19". This thing was A-MAZING!
I love these comparison videos.
Great video Adam - you’ve got me thinking.
I have an old Zildjian china boy low 20” that I just love. It’s not a sound I use a lot, but when I need it, it’s nice to know it’s there.
The Sabian Holy 21’ and Istanbul Xist are sounding sweet.
Thanks for the comparison.
I like quite a bright, glassy type of china sound that stands out above the other cymbals when using it for accents. I normally use an 18" Zildjian A Custom but out of these, the 17" Holy China is my favourite.
The Xist and the Gartska are incredible! I was actually surprised by the A Ultra Hammered!
Great demo of blends of quality, lathed and drilled Chinas. I’m drawn to the pitch of 20” range but the xist 18” creates a great envelope of sound. For me the only disappointments were all Paiste, but not their entire range. So often the brand of current cymbal sets leads you to what the next one will be, however this clearly shows that it’s tone, attack and duration which are really your guides.
I'm going to have to visit when I start my cymbal shopping. Didn't know you guys existed till last night.
Drum center of pourtsmouth can you make video of splash cymbals comprasion
excellent idea.
*6 inch splash cymbals*
The tastiest around
Great video DCP !! I'd pick Paiste 2002 cymbals, their sound is just so incredible :)
Awesome comparison
I love the Meinl Equilibrium! I originally wanted the dual Meinl but after hearing them dude by dude, nothing beats Matt G’s signature China. I have one being shipped to me now.
The Paiste Formula 602 has the broadest, smoothest spread of frequencies out of all of them, without sounding brassy or tinny. A superb cymbal for Jazz or Rock - no contest.
Too much sustain imho
I’ve always been a fan of zildjian chinas.. I own 2, 16” and 18” and they are both amazing and cut through any mix musically
Zildjian K China 17" hands down to my ears.. perfect blend of wash, tone, and sustain.. This was fun thank you DCP :)
I got the 19'' Holy China and I love it! But that Meinl equilibrium China sounds amazing! The second Istambul sound very good as well.
Just got my Ultra Hammered from you guys. Thank you!
Thanks for the Jazz take - really gives us a more definitive listen 👍
Currently own and have the 19in A Ultra hammered, 19in Holy China (traditional), and the K Custom Hybrid China in my setup and I love them all!!! Each are defiantly different in their own way and give off a different flavor for my exact needs. I can never chose between them, recommend them all for rock/Heavy Metal music.
I wish you included the zildjian oriental china, best one for me and used for many professional drummers. That said, thanks for sharing this! very useful for us
IMO that one’s not very good. It’s not very direct.
man, there were some fantastic sounds in that video. I don't play jazz, but that Istanbul Agop Turk was just stunning. And that's saying something cuz they were ALL really good!!
Wow just looked at the zildjian a custom it looks so good nice demonstration of all cymbals you guys are awesome I’ve ordered some sabians from y’all and the shipping was so fast keep it up DCP
Awesome! Thank you!
Drum Center of Portsmouth no problem keep it up
Jazz: Istanbul Agop Turk Rock: Sabian Holly China All around : Paiste ME
I thought the 602 modern essential sounded best in a jazz situation. I'm a paiste guy myself as well
I love the Agop Turk, and the Meinl Dual is nice, but I love the 602. I just bought one from you guys a few weeks ago.
Just something about that Meinl Matt Gartska 20" Equilibrium China { what a mouthful} that does it for me. I knew I shouldn't have watched this. Now I have to get this! Great video we've all come to expect from team DCP!
Irl is even better. Highly recommend
Really loved the Sabians!!
I like the fact that you picked very brand-specific cymbals if that makes sense. Great shootout.
The entire byzance dual line sounds amazing! Some of the best sounding cymbals out there, especially for slightly less than standard tones
I bought a Paiste 2002 20 inch Novo China cymbal last year. I'm pretty satisfied with it. I use a Paiste PST 5 18 inch China cymbal for practice which sounds just as good as the Novo 2002.
Finally thanks!! Do a series with every 16” 17” 18” 19” 20 “ 22 “ 24”
Good idea Dan :)
Cool video! I think the one I'm leaning towards, as the winner, is the Paiste 2002 Novo China Cymbal 20". It's got a beautiful tone and seemed to work well for both Rock and Jazz. I don't actually have a Drum kit, but that's probably the China I'd go for, out of these.
It was the most musical and versatile to my ears.
Yay! A new video!
we feel the same way.
Love your channel!!!!!
You guys are doing a great job.
That Dual china is my favourite out of all! It's just what I'm looking for.
I can't get enough of Ultra Hammered. Beautiful sounding and looking.
You guys could make an edit where the drummers plays the same groove and fills for each cymbals but between the different cymbals the groove is constant. Meinhl does that and it actually gets super dynamic❗️👏
I've had a 20" Wuhan for a number of years that'll either tear your head off or lull you to sleep. It can go from slashing to a very subtle gong-like sound. It's perfect at any volume, and with the rivets I added it covers a lot of ground musically. The other one I have is a Zildjian 16" China Trash because it was the closest thing I could find to the sound Charlie Watts gets. Thanks for another great video.
I love my 20in wuhan too. Other china cymbals just don't sound the same
I still own a LP RanCan China I bought back in 87. Still playing, best China I've had. The Meinl Byzance & Istanbul get close to the sound. Great Video, I see a few I prefer Paiste 602 Modern Essentials and on the other end of the spectrum the Agop Xist Power China.
That first Sabian 21" China is absolutely fucking amazing. I have a mix of Zildjian and Sabian on my kit, but I was really impressed by the Istanbul cymbals. Also that Meinl Byzance 20" sounded so insanely killer. That and the 21" Holy Chinese are the ones I came away wanting from all of these.
Paiste masters 22" swish :-) I love sound of istanbul and novo china! More videos please.
The irony of this is not lost.
Lmao
Killer sounding kick drum too!
Very nice playing!
Honestly these DCP videos are better than the videos the manufacturers make. I just saw their Ludwig comparison and it’s better than any video I’ve seen on the Ludwig TH-cam channel
Thank, Aiden. That means a lot to us.
thank you so much for this video.
Favourites would be the Istanbul Xist and the Zildjian A ultra-hammered. They were all pretty decent though. Great vid.
For me, that 2OO2 Novo China sells me everytime. However, they all sound good, even the ones that I didn't think would sound good for jazz, did sound good for jazz so very impressed!
I had a Dave Weckl HHX Evolution Series china, I loved that thing...
I'm a Sabian guy, but those Istanbuls sounded great. Nothing sounded terrible, not even Paistes, which I'm not generally a fan of.
Me also a Sabian guy, felt the paiste comment down my spine lol. I have only met one Sabian dominant drummer who actually uses the paistes mixed in and it always bothered me. I think Sabian dudes are also the most likely to admit when a cymbal from anyone else is good lol the meinottryingtostartawarhere and zilch guys are generally pretty proud to put in nicely lol
@@Shablagoo7861 I love both paiste and sabian I use the AAX xcellorator hats
Amazing video, I really like it!!!
I missed Wuhan cymbals and of course 19” Paragon by Sabian!!!!
Love your content
The insatnbul agop sounds best to me! Great demo, as always.
Zildjian K - both categories. I thought it came through pretty well with the "Rock" examples, but then when I heard it played a bit softer with the Jazz feel... hands down my favorite and probably my next cymbal.
Hands down, the 2 Paistes are the best. For Jazz and Rock. I use a Paiste 18" RUDE china that is the best chine i've ever heard.
Own one myself. Bought it brand new maybe 15 years ago and still looks fresh out of the plastic bag it came in.
Y’all should do one of these videos for stacks
21” Holy China is the best China for me, hands down. I got to play one as my main Chinese cymbal with the indoor drumline I was a part of and that thing RIPS. Love it!
The Sabian 17 inch sounds so crisp to me. I love it! So many Chinas sound gongy to me. But that one hits the sweet spot!
Istanbul and Meinl for me. Zildjian Ultra hammered as well.
All of the chinas were great! The Xist was my favorite but it sounds a lot like my Alchemy so I'm a little biased :) Kick tone is fantastic btw!
My favorite china I’ve owned was a 20” paiste visions. Loud and trashy like a big china should be, but with a relatively quick decay thanks to the visions coating. I do wish you guys had put the 12” wuhan in there. 😄
The old school Paiste with the large blue lettering will always be the best for rock. I love them and am lucky enough to have one, you can hear it on things like Korn's first album.
The Istanbul Agop Xist Power China is my favorite sounding cymbal, love that tone of it!!!! 🤤🤤🤤
Been using a Zildjian 16" Oriental china trash for a long time. Really like these too. 🤘
The Turk & Byzance were definitely unique and interesting. I have the odd Zildjian and Sabian in my set up but the majority are Paiste 2002s, signitures & Rude sound edges. I'd loved to have heard a Signiture example in this line up.
I have the 21in sabian and i love it, but the instanbul xist sounds really good too!
Loved the second one
I draped meinl cymbal bacon on the novo for jazzy and was pleasantly surprised
The Soultone Custom Brilliant china is definitely another solid one. China cymbals tend to sound a little more "gongy" in person as compared to recordings, but the Soultone china sounds like a recorded one