🚨WARNING! AirSense 10 Foam Degradation & Removal
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If you have been using ozone to clean your ResMed AirSense 10 please be aware that it has the potential to break down the foam disc inside. Keep an eye out for any foreign material in your humidifier chamber when you clean it each day and if you start to see small pieces of grey, dark foam then you might want to consider removing it from the device.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:51 - SoClean Sues Philips For $200 Million
02:24 - SoClean Class Action
03:18 - ResMed Safety Statement
04:10 - ResMed Foam - Forum Posts
07:45 - Fred's Email
08:50 - ResMed Foam Removal / Check
14:05 - Foam Quality Check
15:00 - AirSense 10 Reassemble
17:10 - Outro - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
G'day mates If you use a ResMed AirSense 10 or 11 you can now register for a free www.sleephq.com account. It's super easy to upload, review and share your cpap therapy data. We're adding new CPAP machines to the platform every month so join our mailing list and we will let you know when your CPAP is compatible cpap.review/sleephq-newsletter
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Thank you for the information on the website !
I was supplied with a Res Med airsence 10 in August of this year and it's a great machine, it has done wonders for me. When I picked it up and inquired about a so clean system the rep at the medical supply company out right told me don't use it, he doesn't even sell them and don't buy one off the internet, he said stay away from them. He was adamant about it but wouldn't say why other than it's just cheaper to use soap and water and left it at that. I didn't get one and now I'm glad I didn't. Keep up the good work and thanks.
I had soclean for five years clean masks mainly now only . AirTouch F20 cushion. They do not recommend cleaning masks in soclean, foam cushions look great, recleaning 10 masks 2 or 3 years old smell fresh
Weird…when I got my Dreamstation it was brand new. I never once used ozone or any cleaner like that. Yet I seen these particles they were 100% foam (identical to the ones in this video) and happened 3 times over the span of me owning the device (9months). I really want to spread this because if this happened to me it must happen to everyone. It’s a little concerning. I spent 1100$ of money I didn’t have to get a resmed airsense 10 with a mask. I really hope i don’t have to worry about the foam. I mean for god sakes how hard is it to make something safe that works. I wear this uncomfortable mask every night to not die young. That’s it. That is the entire reason why I have a cpap machines. Would really love to know it doesn’t defeat the purpose and kill me slowly every night!
I work on vintage audio gear, but I also use a ResMed AirSense CPAP. I can tell you that Ozone does in fact degrade foam. I know because I have seen loudspeakers (with foam surrounds) used in rooms with Ozone generators, where the foam surround falls apart in just a year or two. Normally, foam surrounds last 15-20 years. I do not use Ozone for anything, as it is a health hazard in and of itself.
It does have a few possible health applications but it's best to leave that to people who know what they're doing.
VERY IMPORTANT: There are **3** pressure sensors, not two. There is one on the back of the PCB, but it connects to a clear/white rubber gasket while the top two connect to a blue gasket. It is easy to accidentally misalign that back sensor. If you miss this sensor, the machine will blast you with max pressure, and then will only output very low pressure afterwards regardless of settings.
I'm not seeing anything like this. Wish I could find a diagram online.
Actually, I think I found it, and I'm wondering if it's a piece that is where the motor connects to the humidifying chamber, just under the screw for the PCB.
so, that indeed is it... and resolved the problem I was having after reassembling. took it apart again, made sure to get that sucker lined up, and boom! pressure back to functioning properly!!! thank you!!!
Perfect. I was having the exact same problem and this was the reason.
Its like right behind the display screen if you cant find it
Just gotta tell you THANKS!!! the instructions you gave were great and allowed me to make my own decision about, in my case-removing, the foam in my Resmed machine. Also thanks for giving the quick "rebuild" instructions, very helpful.
Finally thanks for your analysis of the safety of foam in the Resmed. You struck a good balance between "everything is ok..." and " ... for now".
My machine is as quiet now without the foam as it ever was with the foam and I'm much more comfortable using the machine this way. In fact I found myself holding off on using the machine since foam-gate began, so who knows, maybe you added a couple of years to my life!!
Just wanted to thank you! You made it so easy to remove my damaged green foam due to using An ozone cleaner for 3 to 3 and a 1/2 years. I am a great grandmother and used your video to do the work it was so easy I really appreciate you and all of your videos keep up the good work! Thank you again🥰
Another high quality video. Thanks for your time and effort, it shows in the production value. Good information, and your high moral fiber shines through with every honest video. You are awesome sir! Keep it up!
Nicko, another great vid! Thanks for keeping us up to date on all this stuff. Hope you and your family love your new location!
Thanks bro, yeah absolutely loving it mate. Evening walks along the beach with beer in hand most nights. Good times. Kids are loving being back at School and making new friends too. Now it's my turn to make a few haha. Cheers legend. Nicko
Love your channel. I just wanted to report an observation on this situation, I bought a used DS1 in Sept 2023 from a widow with the plan to use your Drain Weevil method to extract the foam and use it as a backup device. The machine was purchased new in 2021 in Jakarta, known for hi-humid hi-tropical heat, bad particulate air pollution. The DS1 had been used nightly in Jakarta for two years but with NO water heater/humidifier attachment installed and the unit was never cleaned with Ozone. The former owner never knew and was apparently never informed about the foam recall. The Drain Weevel extraction was successful and the foam blocks were removed in single pieces and exhibited good structural integrity. Removal left no residual dust or crumbles other than what the weevil shredded. In fact, the black PU foam was in much better condition than I was expecting given all the noise and outcry about how bad it was supposed to be. The fan housing had a layer of black soot like substance on the inside of the cover and a small amount of same on the impeller blades similar to what appears on the air INTAKE filter. That experience is enough to make me think the Ozone may be the primary culprit. Take a read of a Material Safety Data Sheet for Ozone, it is highly chemically reactive and generally very bad news. I think Philips has a point. SoClean's lawsuit may not be enough to save them from liability.
Nick, thanks for another really useful video. I love how your content is there simply to help the viewer with no filler, no filter (hey, it's a foamgate pun!), and no bullsh!t. Been watching your content for a few weeks but have now subscribed. Just wondering if you have previously made a CPAP cleaning video? Thanks.
Hey mate, glad to hear you're enjoying the vids. Yeah i try to keep them laid back and easy to understand /watch although i know the topic is boring as bat shit. I'm going to do some cleaning vids soon mate as a lot of the info has recently updated due to the foamgate etc. Cheers. Nicko
A+++ on the tutorial! I’ve taken apart appliances and your video was stellar!
That's very kind of you to say. Much appreciated. Nicko x
Thanks so much for this great info. I recently replaced my Dream Station 1 with the Air Sense 10. I have never used an ozone cleaner on any of my cpap machines. I removed the foam from my Dream Station & it was in good shape. I'm very relieved that there is no issues with the Air Sense 10 foam if no ozone cleaner was used. Thanks for all your great & informative videos.
Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me(us) on this. I've been on CPAP 22 YRS. We bought the SOCLEAN just before the Pandemic shut down but I stopped using it when I it began to smell like it was cooking it. I have a new Airsense 10 as of August 2020 and have not used the SOCLEAN AT ALL. My husband got his at the same time but continued on with SOCLEAN, BUT, stopped with Philips as a general warning. Now we can open up his and see. Thank you again.
So….what did you find, any differences ?
I appreciate that you show pictures of what people were finding in their units. I imagine this helps people know what to look for.
Thank you! Yeah it's like little grey / black fibers. Cheers
Thanks Nick for a most informative channel. Been on APAP for 11 months. I'm kind of a do it yourselfer so I haven't been back to the place that gave me the machine because it's a long drive and appointment required. Your videos have helped me make huge improvements in my treatment. I was spending most of my nights with 85-92 SPO2 readings. Now I'm in the 90 to 98 all night now that I know what the clinical settings do. I'm not as sleepy during the day either. Thank you.
Hey Chuck, that's great to hear mate. I really love reading reviews like this. Best wishes man. Nicko
Thanks for your videos. I had the DreamStation and after FoamGate purchased 2 AirCurve 10's. One is my daily and one is my travel. I knew before foam gate that the CPAP companies said OZONE would void the warranty, so I never used it but I questioned my DME on why they would sell something that would void a warranty. They didn't answer..... I have no idea if my health has been impacted by my bipap machine, but I can tell you, without it, I am not sure what shape I would be in! So thankful for a good nights rest!
Great video and information Nick. I just started using a CPAP (AS10) and when I saw the title of the video I was like OH NO!! But continued watching and was relieved that the breakdown in foam was due to using ozone cleaners. Cheers and keep up the great work.
Thanks mate, appreciate the comment! I have a bad habit of scaring people so i do apologise. Yes certainly nothing to worry about if you've never used an ozone device but even if you had have, i don't think you need to worry, it's just something to keep an eye out for. Cheers for the great comment. Nicko
Your videos are always so informative! I have shared this to others on Facebook. Thank you so much, Nick!
Thanks for the information. I worked at the EPA monitoring ambient ozone levels in the past. I always wondered what the ozone generated from those So Clean machines would do to the plastic inside the CPAP machines. I didn't know that Respironics used sound insulating foam inside their machines. My machine was recalled and I got a new ResMed AirCurve 10 ASV machine now. I would not recommend using ozone gas made by high intensity UV lights for anything with plastic or foam inside it.
Dude, you do excellent teardowns! 👍 Thanks for the video, well done.
I remember when I first heard of ozone when I started my cpap journey back in June of this year. Even before getting my deathstation I knew ozone wasn't a good cleaning solution just because I studied chemistry in college and it was used on certain labs for some glassware and they advised you had to be out of the lab when the cleaner was in use. Even then, the preferred method was soap and water for most things.
Hoorayyy!
Took apart 2 units, safely, and both work great.
THANKS, BUNCHES!
One was a 1 yr old. The other is easily 5+ yrs old. Foam was still in great shape.
Great vid. Cleaned my Resmed Airfit 10 following your instructions. Got to see the innards of my unit after suspecting that it may be making me sick. Not too dirty after 4 years of use, but I am immunocompromised, so any little thing can set me off. Cleaned as much as I could and I feel much better knowing that I did some cleaning. Keep up the great work! 🤙🏽
Great stuff Brian . Have a good one brother
Nick, as always, great information. Truly appreciated. Keep up the good work mate!
Thanks Joe, you're very welcome mate. Take care. Nicko
When I first got my Philips CPAP I had nothing but trouble with it. Constantly bringing it back with pressure issues to it shutting off. Finally about after six months, there were so many things wrong with it, they allowed me to get a Resmed 10. When they were reviewing the machine, it actually broke more on them during the appointment. This is apparent that so clean is responsible for these issues but I will never get a Philips CPAP ever again.
Thank you for your great honest info. Have forwarded to many friends using CPAPS here in the states !!! Glad I found you a while back !
I have the Air Sense 10; never could afford that cleaner lol never thought being short of cash would be so lucky lololol!!!
Thanks Francine, appreciate that. Nick
Hi mate! From Brazil here. I've just bought a ResMed AirSense 10 VAuto (quite expensive bit). And now I'm appalled to know that it has a precoded expiration date, it also has filter issues, as well. I was diagnosed with ALS back in 2019, and can get 63 events/hr without the Bipap. Started using a Philips Respironics Dreamstation, until just last month. I've been following your channel and videos and learning all I can. Thank you so much for the information you share. Keep it up.
Thank you
I am a retired water treatment professional. And lab analyst. Ozone is a very good disinfected but is also highly corrosive. I knew better than to run it through my machine. I hand clean my machine and my wife's machine.
Nice one mate, thanks for the great info. Nick
How do you clean the inside tubing and turbine parts of the machine? Because if the tubing and masks can get dirty, so can the parts inside prior to them where the air flows.
I just got my AirSense 10 a couple weeks ago, so I'm glad sticking to plain ol' Dawn dish soap for my mask and hose and not trying to run anything through the machine itself ought to keep it going for a very long time.
I use Dawn antibacterial dish soap and have had zero issues with the machine 8-months later.
Thanks for all the information you have provided. I started using CPAP in 2020. I have a Resmed 10 and was using So clean the whole time. I tore it apart yesterday because the motor was getting loud later at night during higher pressure and waking me up. After tearing it a part I found that the foam that was in it was starting to break apart. I currently am not putting So Clean thru the machine anymore but the damage has been done and there is no one to go back on because they both deny. So Clean should pay to have the motor replaced. I am doing the work thanks to you .
Thank you for all your Videos.
They have been a big help.
Keep up your good work.
Hi Don, i really appreciate the comment mate. Glad you're enjoying the vids. Your mate, Nicko
Just started using a CPAP Machine was lucky enough to get a ResMed 11 (insurance covered it). Glad I saw this video. going to stick to soap and water. Thanks
Nice one mate. The AS11 has a lot more foam in it so it's a wise choice - th-cam.com/video/y1C7pxg3PM8/w-d-xo.html
Dawn antibacterial dish soap all the way for my ResMed 10, only use distilled water and no problems yet.
I just started APAP this week and snagged the ResMed 11 too. I’m using Seventh Generation fragrance-free dish soap and absolutely won’t use one of these ozone cleaners after watching your videos. Great channel for beginners!
Thank you so much for the info. I took mine at part just in time. The foam it was almost to the point of coming apart.
Thanks Nicko for keeping us updated
Welcome Tom. Cheers
Very informative, thank you. I've been disassembling and reassembling since the late 1950's... Also, I had a 'feeling' that something must be wrong with those cleaners but had NO idea why.
Nice one mate, appreciate the support. Nicko
Thanks Nick, Fantastic video on SoClean and ResMed safety and how to check whether your foam is breaking down or not. I could never understand how any CPAP manufacturer thought it was a good idea to put a sound abatement foam in the air pathway of a medical device. Whether the foam is safe or not, it can't be changed without opening up your Resmed Airsense 10 with a screwdriver tool and removing the Torx screws.
Hey man, thanks for the great comment! Yeah that's a great point you make also. There has to be a better way! All the best brother. Nicko
Another great video Nick! I’m always happy when people come to our FB page and ask about whether they should buy a SoClean and the advice is a resounding “NO!” then that individual decides not to buy.
Hi Kath, thank you! I know there's been plenty going on with the Admin crew and i'm sorry i have been absent. I'll be back on tomorrow. Moving house at the moment so it's all a bit cray cray. Cheers mate. Nicko
@@CPAPReviews Hey Nick…we, the admin crew are doing fine. I’m back from my brief journey to the forest and life will be back to normal. Family always comes first which includes moving. Love to all! Cheers mate!
Nicko thank you for the video.
I got my res med air sense 10 a year ago and was wondering what my foam would look like. After spending no longer then 30 minutes taking apart and putting back together seems like my foam is good. I can finally not stress out about this. I encourage anyone reading this to check there foam if you are worried about the foam dust as it's not hard to take apart and put back together.
Thank you again brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey mate, i appreciate the comment. I would like to add though that unless you have been using ozone then there's probably no need to take it apart as you could potentially stuff up putting it back together etc. Only really required if you've been a medium to long term user of ozone and or have seen foam particles in your chamber. Glad you managed to check it out though. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews Nicko I forgot to mention I did buy a so clean2. The stupidest $350 US dollars I've ever spent I used it maybe 20 times. So I had to find out. Like I said your video was pretty straight forward you didn't leave anything out.
Thanks from the USA
Oh goodness! Thank you for all the help!
Nick. I got a shock yesterday. Received my new dream-station 2. I was totally surprised to get a new one this quick from the recall. It is very nice, quiet. Easy to set up. And now I will be able to sleep better and feel safe.
Thanks for all your help and info.
I hope I get one sion
glad to hear you get a replacement from Phillip. At least they (from Phillip) would make sure the new machine doesn't have foam. Need to follow up with my replacement.
Same here! I didn’t know they were sending a replacement so that made me happy. It had been 4 months without my CPAP
Excellent video. I just bought an air sense 10 to replace my recalled dream station. I had to blow $1000 on it and it’s good to know how to check the foam when I feel it’s time.
Thanks, this gave me piece of mind after using soclean for about 6 months. Filter still looked great. Also i took the cellular cable off from the side piece not the main board cause i didnt want to break it lol
I have work with copiers, which put out ozone, yes it does destroy foam. I as a technician saw it all the time
Thanks for the info Lynard. Nick
Thanks Nick, great to see inside the Resmed Air Sense 10 just for curiosity sake also.
Glad you enjoyed it Simon, yeah it's kind of cool to see what's under the hood. Cheers
Thank you Nick for all your good info on cpap news.
Welcome David. Appreciate that mate. Nicko
Today I received a new AirSense 10 to replace my 2015 AirSense 10 for the "Motor life exceeded, contact care provider" message.
The old one had 22,370 hours on it And I never used a ozone cleaner. So I decided to dissect the old one to have a peek at the foam. There was no degradation at all. At most there was a trace of dust in the turbine blades.
Thanks for the videos
Nice one mate, thanks for sharing that info :-). Definitely keep the old one for spare parts. Cheers
great video champion. my airsense is 6 yrs old. never heard of this foam issue. also never heard of or used Soclean. but i'm gonna take my machine apart and have a look. well done. love how you do this all for us to view. cheers.
so was it all good? and how do you clean your supplies? i just wash in warm water and johnson baby wash/shampoo
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Thanks Nick for making this video!
Your video just answered some of my questions and helped me remove the small piece of foam that was still remaining in my machine. I couldn’t get the foam out of the motor though so we will see if it continues to show up in the reservoir.
Excellent video, Nico. I use the AirSense 10 every evening. My current machine is 4.5 years old. The only time I use Ozone to clean anything is with my Sleep8 cleaner, and I only use it to sanitize my tube. I clean the reservoir with soap and water, then put it in a UV chamber along with the mask and head gear to sanitize those. Since I do not run ozone directly into the water reservoir and hence into the machine, I'm concluding that my foam should be as good as it was when new like the one you show in this video when you disassembled the machine.
I work for a major cpap supplier and we also sell So clean, i myself have never sold one to my patients bc before i started with my company, i did my own research about what ozone truly was and I'm so damn glad i did. I KNEW from research it was TOXIC and should not be even in the same sentence with clean. Anyway I'm glad you showed me this bc I've been asked time and again if Resmed is safe. And i KNEW THE so clean was not safe. They deserve to be sued bc they charge a ton of money and they keep charging money bc if the filters and adapters needed to keep it running. Ugh what a waste. Thank you for your videos I've sent them to my boss bc i think she needs to know what's truly happening with the DS1 AND 2 and the recall. Thank you so much
The best video and super informative on TH-cam....Thank You
Thank you my friend. Nicko
Thank you Nick! always spot on information
You're welcome Ron, thanks for the support. Nicko
Excellent information, thanks Nick.
Very welcome. Thank you :)
Thanks a lot, this really helped me out
Great video Nick.
Thank You
thanks, I use the SoClean2 with the Airsence 10....I will look at this as soon as I get home from work!
You're welcome. Keep an eye out ;-)
Thanks for the great video. Easy to follow. I followed your instructions. When I opened the chamber, there was only a sliver of foam left. Unbelievable. I use a sonoclean. The thing is I only started to see the green fibers in the humidifier a few days ago. I always look in the tank when I refill. Never saw any before. Where could the foam have gone? This is a real mystery. So I am going to operate without the foam period. If you can think of something, please advise. Thanks much. Vito
Thank You sooooo much for this info. I did buy the ozone cleaner about a year ago but only used it once and for whatever reason I decided not to use it again. Now I know why and not to give to anyone and just trash it. 😊
Clean with Dawn antibacterial dish (hand) soap everyday. Cheap and effective.
Looking good in that thumbnail! I know its the trusted channel I'm looking for
Hey! I really appreciate that. Are you the guy that told me i should put my face in them? I do listen to good advice ;-). Cheers legend. Nicko
@@CPAPReviews yes, I'm that guy.
Well done! Valuable info!! Thanks!!
Thanks David, i really appreciate your feedback and support. Best wishes. Nicko
I've recently noticed some dusty floaters in water chamber of my 7 month old ResMed APAP several days after changing to replacement chamber of Airsense 10. Not using Soclean, just White vinegar & water mix & use a cotton swab to clean around edges if necessary. Keeping close watch for any particles of dust like matter. The machine is through DME provider APRIA Healthcare under Medicare. Contract. 🤠
Top job mate, you had me checking my cough for a while there. My airsense 10 is ok though. I just use warm water and mild soap to clean it. A question though, does the motor generate ozone and is its chamber isolated from the pressurised air? Just a thought!
Thanks very much for your videos.
I have at one time seen foam specks floating in my humidifier water and have NEVER used so clean!
Thanks so much for your knowledge
My pleasure!
Thanks Nick, great info.
Thanks brother. Glad you enjoyed it. Nicko
You glossed over an important item at 15:22. It is important to get the 'C' fitting on the blower housing slid on to the "T" fitting on the case. You do it correctly, but it is very easy to get the 'C" fitting sitting on top of the "T" fitting. Everything will go back together, possibly with some extra force. But the pressure sensing seals won't work well enough.
Great video Nicko. Love your work. Now I know how to take apart my S10 (not that I plan to but it was nice to see the components inside). Just one point. I would not use the Dewalt driver (even with clutch) to screw back the screws. Best people tighten by hand otherwise they run the risk of sheering the threads if they overtighten with the electric screwdriver (or forget to put the clutch setting). You've probably done this thousands of times and know when to stop but if people are doing it for the first time they may run the risk of damaging the components.
Hey legend, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the great tips! Yeah i would not normally use a power drill mate but i was a bit stuck and just needed to get the job done haha. You know how it is. Appreciate the great advice though. All the best brother. your mate, Nicko
I am with you on your advice, as well as using a hand operated screwdriver I also gently turn to screw backwards to locate the start of the thread, this means the screw engages the original thread in the plastic and greatly negates the possible damage to the hole. I repair most of my electrical appliances because often a small single component causes failure and parts are unavailable or prohibitively expensive. I also make a point of enquiring about the availability of spare parts and their cost when I purchase a new appliance!
Thanks for your video. I use ResMed Air Sense now, in 5th year. Tried a different ozone cleaner about 4 times but couldn't stand the stench left behind. No evidence of foam particles anywhere. But, doesn't foam break down over time anyway? I would think it is something that should be replaced. Going to ask about this at my upcoming CPAP review with my doctor. Thank you.
I have two different ozone cleaners, but the SoClean is too expensive. I used to clean both of our Airsense 10 machines with the ozone cleaner, but my wife complained about the residual smell. I didn't care for it either and now I only clean the hoses with it. I've never noticed any particles in my water tanks so I don't believe I have an issue since I didn't clean my machines for that long of a time to affect them. Now I know what to look for. Thanks!
I have an AirSense 10 and only clean the mask/hose with it. The 2 times I actually ran it through the whole unit there was a notable ozone smell in my bedroom. Running it through the mask/hose entirely contained within the SoClean there's no ozone smell at all. The hose and mask are regular replacement items, so I'm not worried about them degrading before they're replaced.
Commercial ozone generators are often used in remediation after house fires. It’s recommended that all persons vacate the premises during operation with venting the home after the ozone treatment. Ozone can deteriorate many plastics, foams, and other material. I would never use it to clean a medical device unless specifically recommended by the manufacturer and certified by a nation certification agency. Cleaning my CPAP and assorted equipment I am using a vinegar/water mix, a good rinse, and air drying on a regular basis. Filters are replaced regularly.
i have used divillbiss mechines for 16 years .....have had no such problems with the foam ...i use only warm water with a little mild soap only,,,,, have stipped them checked for any dust etc ,,,,,,have washed the foam in the same solution ......they still work fine and are reserve machines one haveing had over 28,000 hours of use,,,,,,, i now use a resmed 10 mechine which i dont strip to clean as it is a hire mechine only clean outside,,,, far to over priced to buy with only 2 years garentee,,, looking to buy a new devillbiss mechine more up to date than my old ones.......i see these are all sold out on your sponcer site,,,,,,long life mechines ,,,,no problems and cheaper,,,,,,thanks a bunch for your magic video,s fella
Hi Stephen, i have big concerns for Devilbiss - th-cam.com/video/6RZ6oNyERLg/w-d-xo.html
What i find interesting is that my DME called and offered me a "free" cleaner and when i asked what was it, they said an ozone cleaner. Keep in mind the recall was already happening.
Thanks for sharing mate 👍
I have a resmed 10 for over two years now. I also have a SoClean2. I do not hook up the SoClean2 to my resmed. You do not have to connect the two! Just replace the filter. I don't think you need to "clean" your water. Problem solved. Don't make it harder than it has to be. My foam is still fully intact and problem is averted.
Thanks!
Welcome mate. Nick
Thanks for the data.
Good Day Brother, I removed my foam thanks to your video, my Dream Station was 5 years old and I used a So Clean for almost as long, the toxic foam was a Black Goo (Tar Like) It came out in small pieces of resin, that I have and dated. I have photos of my hands the toxic foam and the coated items used to remove it. If you would like to see them and use them in your videos, I can do that ! I had a black resin on my hand , in the foam case housing and on the various things I had to use to get this crap out. Thank You for your awesome videos, You might have saved my life, I have A Fib. and cannot be without a Cpap Machine all is good now. Here's a thought, now that the toxic foam has been removed I can use the So Clean again. Mark Mundt Milwaukee, WI USA ...
Thank a lot. I’m on my second resmed 10. Got a SoClean a while back. Use it maybe once a week or so.
You're welcome mate. What happened to the first one?
@@CPAPReviews I’m lucky, I have 2. I travel a lot for work and if I go on a short trip I take the old one. If I go on a long trip I swap out the body the night before and take the new one the next morning.
An Excellent Demonstration!
Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed the video. Nick
Top Stuff mate.
Thanks legend :)
This is where your info is off my Friend. I have been using a Airsense 10 for 6 years now ( BTW I watched your video on changing the motor that I bought on Amazon for $127.00 US. And aside from installing the motor backyards the 1st time....MY FAULT...... Your Video Save ME .............BIG TIME.) I have been using my So Clean for 5 1/2 years and I have had no problems. I'm just seeing your video today (2/23/2024) or I would have taken pictures of my foam.
Thanks but my info is not off. I've seen it firsthand and have hundreds of pics and emails. Secondly, read some of the comments on this vid. P.S. next time a youtube helps you out, don't be afraid to throw them a few bucks to say thanks. Cheers
Interesting, I have had my Resmed since 2016 and my SoClean since 2017 With no issues like this, I am going to take it apart this coming week,
Please let us know what you find, if anything.
Hello, Nick!
Been using a res med c-pap without using this "So clean" and haven't had any problems or particles. Seems to me the "Cleaner" is the problem not the foam in the c-pap. The cleaner may be to abrasive or harsh and the chemicals may cause the foam to break down vs just normal use without it is just fine.
Have Resmed now looks like I'll be repeating the surgery, no dremal, no dental instruments. Easy peezy thnx Nick
Hi Michelle, no need unless you've been drowning the poor girl in ozone. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews Don't trust the foam no way no how. Thnx hun.
I have a homemade cpap cleaner. I got a small aquarium ozone generator and connected it to the top of the water via a regular O2 hose. This goes into the tank through a hole in the top of the tank and runs down to the bottom of the tank. With the tank filled, I start the ozone generator and then manually start the cpap and lt cycle it 2 or 3 times. This method works well and cost about $25. The generators last for at least 2-3 years. BTW I live in SW Florida, home to molds, fungus, and all the rest of creepy crawlies. My only precaution is that the generator must be mounted higher than the tank or the water will leak out.
I had bits of foam in my Phillips Remstar 450P, took it all apart and much of the foam was breaking down, so I took all of it out and cut bits of polyethylene foam to match and re-assembled. I never used any cleaner except for weekly soaking the tank and hose in white vinegar to clean off the water deposits.
Hey man, where did you get the polyethylene from? Cheers
@@CPAPReviews Computer parts packing material. It's handy stuff, so I usually have a stash of various sizes and shapes.
I used a SoClean for a period with my 10 and after a year or so the machine made quite a groaning / whining sound during use due to an apparent internal leak of some sort. My provider replaced the device thankfully and I stopped using the SoClean and the AirSense 10 has been good for years now. I use a Sleep8 for my tubing and mask (and I stick the humidifier reservoir in there without the seal) but no ozone through the machine and things have been fine. I think for sure ozone can degrade the materials (even the silicone gets oxidized - you can see it turn a slight brown color after sanitizing), the hose and headset get replaced at regular intervals - not the same for the machine!
thx for your video. it helps alot.
Thanks for the heads up on ozone cleaners! Been on a ResMed air sense 10 for 4 year now. Have not used an ozone cleaner on it and now will not i will clean it the old way thanks.
Very informative, thanks. Sadly, because my insurance paid for my AirSense 10 the modem has to stay connected so it can be monitored. If I don't use the machine they can take it back. So if I want to open it up to deep clean the insides, what do I use to clean it with? I've never used any sort of cleaning system for the machine. I do take the water chamber and nose pillow with me to clean while I'm in the shower and clean the hose every week or two. I normally use mild soap and vinegar, letting them soak for around 30 minutes before rinsing them out.
So clean suing Phillips
Yep
Just got put on CPAP therapy, and learning as much as i can about my new Air sence 10. What is this SoClean that you are talking about, and what do you mean Ozone cleaner. I have a air purifier to clean the air in my room. But it's not an Ozone cleaner, it's just hepa filter and a fan. I was told you can just use soap and water to clean out your tubes...Cheers and thanks for your information
Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos. Every time I google questions about my cpap, your great videos pop up. I can't get a good answer to the following question and I would very much appreciate your answer. I love the convenience of So Clean, but obviously don't want it to degrade my foam. I was told by my respiratory therapist that I could just put my hose and mask in the So Clean. Is this safe? Or at least safer than not attaching it to the machine? I have been doing this for 1/2 a year. I rarely, if ever use the humidifier on my cpap.
Thanks for helpful info. FYI I only use Ozone cleaning on water tank and hose once a week at most (water's changed out daily) but may cut ozone down to once a month, instead using liquid sanitizers like hydrogen peroxide or similar to avoid hose rubber deterioration (so far, so good). Perhaps Ozone would damage the Airsense 10 internal seals and sensor components over time (in areas of high Ozone pollution (Los Angeles, CA, etc.) foam would deteriorate over time) ? Was also good to learn Airsense 10's life's apparently about 25000 hours.
I have a Dream Station 2 for travel & a Resmed 10. I only use my So Clean once a week.
My husbands has a remstar plus c-flex system one Machine by Philips Respironics . The humidifier water chamber just showed this past week black perfectly round plastic-like Flecks in the humidifier water chamber. We do not use any type of ozone cleaner. So apparently the issue we're having with his just has to do with the breakdown of the foam in his machine.