Shop’s Crazy Close Call! Lift Cable SNAPPED! Car Stuck on Rack!
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- 8000lb Automobile Lift Catastrophically Fails (Cable Snaps) with a Jeep Grand Cherokee
The 8000 capacity two post automotive lift failed catastrophically while lifting a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 4.7 V8 Engine. The lift's balancing cable snapped when the lift reached the top! Thankfully the hydraulic pressure in the two lift cylinders held the Jeep long enough for it to be supported by jack stands for safety until a solution can be reached! Watch until the end screen for the part 1.5 link!
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Famous last words by technicians when working on their own stuff. "I'll clean that up later." Once it works, it won't be looked at again until it breaks. LOL
So true lol. Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution😂
Have you seen all the improvements? Ray has in his Silverado dirtymax? Ripped out the entire interior replaced it with an Escalade dash. He is not the shoemaker whose children have no shoes
@@stevenichols4639he now have one of a kind dash for sure.
I fix everyone's car, but have a whole front suspension kit for my Camry sitting in the trunk for 3 years 😂😂😂
@@stevenichols4639
its not unusual for a mechanic to really get into one or 2 of their own projects, sometimes even 3 or maybe 4 if its something thats kind of out there, but after that, yeah it works ok so i'll take care of it later,...wife or girlfriend projects don't count, and really not work related stuff either.
The winch cable on that tow truck has a hook on it that is put on with a loop in the cable and the clamp on that cable is installed backwards. Not only should there be at least two clamps on it, the saddle on the clamp has to be on the live side of the cable. It currently has the saddle on the dead side of the cable. The way you remember that is you do not put the saddle on a dead horse. That cable is ripe for failing.
Yeah from England I work in the North sea for Loffland Brothers,,and saying was never sadly a dead horse ✌️💪🏴👍
Well knowing that would have required that he took the time to read the instructions.
I was just about to post the same thing. When lifting gear fails gravity sucks! Quickly.!
"Saddle on the main" and "steel is hard, cold and heartless"
Thankyou for bringing that up, because the "Thimble" (the steel cable protector, that goes inside that loop, to "Protect" the cable from wear,) is also "off" hanging off the side, doing NOTHING. Well spotted.
That lift hasn’t sounded happy since you installed it. Glad you are taking it out, and very glad you averted disaster when it broke.
Yes that sounds like it is very dangerous when it does break.
Does anyone know who manufactured the system ? That is a Safety Limit System fail, in the lift that allowed it to over drive and snap the cable when it hit the TRACK STOPS at the top
@@rodneycaupp5962It’s a rotary lift. The cables are manufactured in China. They suck. He needs to inspect them on a regular basis and NEVER bring the lift to a position in which the cables are being fully stressed. I’ve been selling, installing and repairing automotive equipment for 35 years. When you buy a cheaper lift you are buying more necessary inspections, more replacement of parts (cables) and more chances of lift failure. Cheap lifts also have sub standard pistons. BUY A MOHAWK. BEST LIFT IN THE BUSINESS. You’ll pay more initially, but you’ll have a safe lift and guaranteed for life pistons. Oh, and no equalizing cables.
@@rodneycaupp5962 thats not how it works
@@rodneycaupp5962 It's a Rotary lift....they did
You know it's a project when every step adds more steps.
Project: Change a lightbulb.
1: No lightbulbs in the house, go buy one.
2: Removing the lightbulb, the light fixture in the ceiling cracks. Go buy one.
3: Go turn off the breaker to replace the fixture, find out the breaker is defective. Go buy one. Share jokes at with Joe at Ace about every little project taking multiple trips to the hardware store.
4: Replace breaker, turn off circuit.
5: Replace fixture.
6: FINALLY install new bulb and turn the breaker back on.
7: Wife comes home and says she doesn't like the new fixture.
Replace her. Laugh with Joe about it.
I know you don’t use it much, but that truck just proved it’s worth keeping.
I was thinking it just more than paid for itself.
@@kjisnot Same here.
Ray, the winch could use some love !
I was thinking the same thing. Just for this it proved it's worth.
Very nice truck Ray !
Eric O changed his cables on his lift about a year ago. It was an interesting video. I'm happy no one was hurt. Great job Ray🎉🎉
mrs O is the person i appreciates most on south main auto.
Don't forget the power-driver and wrenches are under the drivers seat Ray!
I've left stuff under the seat and spent a month looking for them. I didn't have the internet reminding me 😂
Was about to say, Ray, don't forget to remind us to remind you to grab your tools from under the seat :D
@@AquaPeet and have a good day
And the thermostat that has been in there for months. :)
@@Terry-ut5bo No, YOU have yourself a GREAT day! :)
Ray, for safety's sake , put all of your lifts on a monthly inspection and maintenance schedule. Glad nobody was injured.
Lol. Shops don't do this. Never have never will. This stuff will continue to happen. Yet people who've never wrenched will still oogglly aaahhggly over a okay mechanic. It's crazy how many people have zero skills now. All they can do is type on a computer lol
The first two commentors, talking about bad luck, seem to be missing that no one was injured and that there was no property was damaged. It was good to see how Ray "safely" resolved what could have been a real disaster.
Ty
@@mlpmail - Amen! Ray, thank you for working safely around what could have still been a dangerous situation.
It's Troy's truck!
Thank you for keeping your priorities in order. At least you didn't go out and buy a new pair of sneakers before getting the car safely back on the ground. And no one was injured during the production of this video!
A lot to be said for annual lift inspections. They are a requirement here in Ohio, also your insurance company may require them.
Not dying is, hands down, my favourite way to start and end the day. Nice job @RainmanRaysRepairs!
That truck just paid for itself 10 times over. You need to give it a special reward.
It got hundreds of dollars in new batteries. And it got to get up and stretch some.
I vote for a Video of some needed TLC for that Truck, including fixing that PTO throttle circuit!
@@bruceb4349 I still think it deserves some TLC. Like something to reduce rusting rate on the cable, maybe a horn?
New belt somewhere too.
@@conceptrat He did belts on it shortly after he purchased the truck.
Ray for the win. NO PROBLEM is ever too big for Ray, he just takes it in stride and deals with it no matter what it is. No whining, complaining, or giving up, just flat out takes care of business with a positive attitude. I wish everybody was like him!
When the boss asked if you're busy, the correct answer is yes, but I'm at a stopping point.
My boss asks "how you doing over there?" He really means "are you done yet, I've got another project for you." So I answer "almost, why what do you have?"
You're a brave man for putting this on video. I know people who would sue the repair shop claiming that their ride was damaged by this.
Good luck to them I guess, transparency goes a long way in front of a Judge.
No dying. Your wife and kids need you. We need you too but we are last. I’d say those with vehicles in your shop are before us viewers. Keep up the great work .!!
“Don’t die!” That’s a great Rainman Ray’s Repairs tag line!
Soaked from the rain? Brings a whole new meaning to Rainman Ray.
Greetings from Finland. Sometimes you just have days like that. But, important part is that no one is injured- keep up the good work
BRAVO RAY! I was just at the part where you SAW your young Apprentice in the corner... I can RELAX now as a lot of BAD things were running thru my mind about it(Gotta lead the young guys, show em the way to a LONG life... been there.. done that too!)
Ya, "foot off the brake, the winch has you", until THAT cable breaks. 😄😄
This is a Genius way of doing this. This should be a lesson for all shops who may encounter a problem like this.
It's called monthly inspection and preventive maintenance. It will save your LIFE!
Always do pmcs.(preventive maintenance checks n services) takes time but can come in handy in times of need
There's an old saying "I don't have time to do it right the first time, but I'll have time to do it again!" Do it once, do it right", LOL!
Concerns me about his work ethic if his truck is in such poor condition and must not have done maintenance on his lift. I think I would take a pass on this garage.
@@richardmsshbitz1062 I think he bought a used lift and the problem with the lift could happen anytime even with a new lift. As for the truck in question, he rarely uses it because he is so busy, but check out the truck he does use all the time, it's in pristine condition.
@@richardmsshbitz1062 he took the truck apart to paint it and hasn't had time to reassemble it. The PTO throttle was preexisting condition. He has done work on the truck. He did belts and other PM items to it since purchase.
Great job thinking that whole scenario through before taking action so everyone and everything was safe.!!
The cable clamp on your winch cable is on backwards and can cut your cable, making for a bad day. An easy way to remember the proper way to install them is, " never saddle a dead horse".
i learned something from that comment, thank you
Omg. My grandpa said the same thing teaching me to run a Skidder. Thanks for the memory
Put the saddle on the horse's back not the horse's tail.
@BuzzinVideography I might be old enough to be your grandpa!!!...lol..but yep, learned that saying on the farm.
it's certainly due for a whole new cable anyway. atleast if planning to keep and use it, new cable! as for the lift new cable and sheaves will fix it up, making sure there no hydraulic issues which can overload the balance cable. also lifting vehicles unevenly loaded with material/tools on one side are a bad thing, as that puts lots of force on the cable too.
Awesome save with the tow truck!
Amazing how the flatbed just fit between the post. Great job.
Proof that it's better to have something and not use it that much than to need something and not have it. Smart purchase Ray
Ray, You are a clever and smart guy, calmly working the problem! You just need new cables for that lift.
And someone to hold your camera.
Scheduled maintenance and inspections by someone qualified to do so is probably a good idea, the grim reaper gave you a hint, take it
And how do you know Ray does not have lifts inspected / maintained?
@@57dent didn’t say he didn’t do inspections , sure he does, obviously, as a mechanic I am sure, but it has to be done regularly and scheduled by the number of uses verses time
@@57dent The cables broke!
@@57dent Because part of that inspection would of been the pullies and wire rope. And there's this broken wire rope you can see in the video that sort of says that an inspection hasn't been done in years.
That’s also a fairly old hoist by the looks. We turn our rotaries over every 12-15yr and our workplace authority requires yearly maintenance and certification.
It's not an equipment failure that caused this. It's a maintenance and inspection failure.
That tow-truck needs some love.
Took it apart to have it painted, got busy, and never put it back together.
man you are the best mechanic . You have a good brain. We need aviation mechanics like you
Maybe planes wouldn't be falling apart! You can't park a plane on a cloud 😂
If I remember correctly, there is an expiration date on the cables. You might want to check the other lifts.
Id be changing other cables on the other lifts and checking the rollers to, to be on the safe side
For as long as I can remember I always had this kind of thing in my mind about cables, never seen one fail before, until this video, but cables are just bad for me.
Do any lifts come with chains instead of cables. ???
@@S.Acosta-yg6odThat'd be very noisy, I think.
If memory serves, some did come with chains and not cables. Not sure if they're still on the market.
Chains can fall also, often in the little pins that the links rotate around. ( They were similar to bicycle chains in construction, which can also fail ).
The lift I used back in the '70's was an in-floor unit with one massive hydraulic cylinder
in the center, with a thick steel center platform on top of the piston, and 4 extendable arms with pads swinging off the center platform. I never had an issue with it in 10 years.
I don't know what its rating was, but it would lift 3/4 ton pickups and vans without
breaking a sweat. I think at that point it was already 20 years old. It was so old it didn't
have a safety post or a lock. Every walk under it was an existential experience, but it never
failed me. Real old school machinery. The compressor was in the basement.
Your system for releasing that truck from lift jail, was very clever, and it worked. I agree with your decision to ditch that cable-operated lift. That thing is a menace.
I look forward to seeing you remove it, and what you will find to replace it.
Maybe just jack stands, a floor jack, and a creeper, for now.
They're ALL cable lifts now. Those old in ground lifts aren't generally allowed anymore. I think the worry was in ground leaking or something. Cable lifts are just fine, millions of em in use. Just need inspection and maintenance, then sometimes they still break. Most shops just don't touch em
You had an interesting workout on the bed of the tow truck, Ray. 😂
The only thing that could go wrong can go wrong. Always good to see extra safety measures in place when being under a car whether it's on the ground or up in the air .
If I had a dollar every time I've been showered with tire water.....🤣🤣🤣🤣
It would be about 50$ and it going to happen to again soon that's assuming you count BMX bike tires
@@DarkLord89213 If were counting BMX prolly closer to 60 or 70!
Had a semi tire yesterday, a spare strapped to the back of the semi cab. Water all the way up to bead. Got covered pulling it off the catwalk, covered when rolling it off the truck, covered trying to flip it to get the water out. This past week been getting soaked with tire water. Love it.
3:38 Phil Collins, I can feel it in the air tonight.....
There's no correct answer when a boss needs an employee's assistance but asks: "Are you busy?" 😉
Ignore the question and instead ask a question, "what do you need?"
There are times when you are in the middle of something to important to stop immediately.
@@GhausterYou took me far too seriously! 😉
Just a piece of advice. There are numerous companies who can perform annual inspections and issue certificate of inspection for all sorts of lifts. In business and for liability reasons you need to be able to prove you are practicing your "due dilligence" by having this type of equipment inspected by someone certified to do so. This is not a critique of Ray or his skill set. It's a simple matter that the USA is the law suit capital of the world and there are many lawyers who would sue their granny to make $1.00 Likewise, Insurance companies are famous for finding loop holes so they don't have to pay a claim which leaves the business owner financially ruined.
🤣 And all the fools in the last video that said you couldn't get a roll back in the shop and under the vehicle got proven wrong. Just as I suspected would be the case.😏
24 years old and was working at a shop and we had a center post lift brake with a car in the air biggest pain to get it down
Ray, is this the same lift that a few videos ago when you went to let it down one side got stuck? You should inspect all your lifts today! Stay safe!
I believe that was the middle lift. One of the locks didn't fully engage and slipped.
Had the same thing happen to me on my dad's 20 year old eagle lift. My dakota was on there when the cable snapped. Thankfully I was able to get the truck down by using steel plates at different lengths on one side to keep it level on the way down. Glad you're OK Ray. Could always be worse my man!
Ray.. That Tow Truck is a keeper...fantastic tool to have!
when "that'll do for now" lasts until you replace the batteries next, and curse out the last guy that did it and just left them "all floppin about", lmao love the content!
We may have to rename Murphy’s Law to Ray’s Law. I mean tire water onto your shoe and dead battery’s on the tow truck. Oh by the way almost either getting smashed or whipped to death by a breaking steel cable or falling Jeep. 😮
With his bad luck recommend that nobody stand close to him during a lightning storm.
That was brilliant how you got the Jeep off the lift great work.
Ray if you haven't yet, PLEASE get your lifts inspected and certified as safe by a qualified inspector! No one wants to lose you especially your family!
Thats a new fear unlocked being around all the lifts like that.. im gonna have to tell my boy to check his cable n pulleys now
BendPak lifts for the win! Wouldn't go any less than a 10,000 lb system. Get that old Rotary outta there asap.
Pak is Chinese.
@bendpak maybe help a guy out.
I bought a Mohawk 12K fully hydraulic lift back in 2000 and it still works just fine. To me it was the best value for longevity. No cables to fail.
@@bobs1345👍Good to know information
@@bobs1345 Mohawk are sturdy and well made, but I don't like the design and interface. No cross bar on the top creates more stress on the floor, they won't do single point safety release, system leveling seems to be an issue for some owners. Also, they seem to make a lot of their money selling to the government and have a reputation for being hard to reach with problems. Kinda focused on big fleet and commercial...Again, nothing against Mohawk, but people should try before they buy.
Thats what I love about your videos, you always show the good, bad and ugly. Glad everything worked out.
I can't help but bring it up.... at 8.20 you say "Today is definitely a day of OSHA violations".... but at 12.45 you say "Safety! Today is the day of safety" 🤣
To be fair I've seen enough of your content to know how much you care about your staff, customers and family! I'd trust you over anybody here in Spain! Watching a master at work whilst contradicting himself constantly is what makes the content so great! If anyone can..... Rainmain can!! Glad nobody was hurt and you fixed the problem! You nailed it again!
Come with me, and you'll see! A world of OOOOOOSHA violations!~
@@Kellen6795 I can hear Wilder as Wonka singing that.
Thank god for the Truck. Awesome job
Don’t stop not dying, Ray! 😎
Impressive day. - Forgot the winch up the cable before parking. Time for a lot of maintenance on your equipment. But great work, working with what you have.
It's a Jeep Thang
Jeep guys - eh? Just put it in 4WD and drive it off. No biggy. They've been in tighter spots.
@@robertthomas5906 Worked for The Green Hornet.
I appreciate how you show all the issues that arose before the task at hand was even started. That is the reality of work and it’s god you do not sugar coat it just to make a nice looking video. Thanks for sharing, nobody hurt and nothing damaged so that a huge win.
Please be safe. Your kids are important, your wife is important, and you're important. That's some sketchy stuff my guy.
Lots of men out there can take care of the kids. Lots of Brady Bunch families out there.
not sketchy at all.
This is why I have so many projects sitting. When you start to accomplish one thing it cascades into a huge ordeal. Great determination!
I love how out of everything that happened; Ray is the most upset with tire water in his shoe. :)
I have heard of things like that happening and for the 45 years I was a mechanic was always scared of it happening to me. My last boss before I retired....he would yell at me when a car would shift on the lift and I would run out from under the lift outside the shop, and his lifts were a little sketchy. I also learned back when I was a kid...21...that a rollback making tight turns can rake the whole side of a car. Lesson learned that day.
Your luck has been shit lately.
Hmmm ive had runs of bad luck that lasted weeks ..😊 makes u question everything in life
Life is a circle.
Good luck - bad luck - good luck again
Plenty of food and money - lean times
On and on..
We're born bald, toothless, and in diapers. If we live long enough, we'll pass bald, toothless, and in diapers.
I was working on a drilling rig with a stuck pipe. I was part of the crew that did the unsticking process, which at the point we were at, involved determining where on the drill pipe the "stick" was happening deep down in the hole, THEN send an explosive charge down to that level which would have the effect of hitting the spot with a hammer. We'd position at the first screw juncture above the stick. The next steps involved putting pulling tension on the pipe itself, then, using some intricate calculations, torque the pipe in the opposite direction of the screw so that, when the charge went off, it would unscrew at that precise point.
These are complex equations that take into account the depth at which the juncture is, how many lengths of pipe are above it, and other factors like pipe size, etc. and from that derive the number of turns you need to give the pipe to give it the proper tension. BUT... we had a failure.
What holds the drill pipe in torsion are a pair of "slips", a heavy conical clamp that goes around the pipe tightly then is dropped into the rotary table in the floor of the deck that, in normal conditions, turns the drill stem so it drills the hole. What LIFTS this incredibly heavy length of drill pipe is a very large block and tackle system with cabling that goes several times through the block, that clamps the top of the pipe to lift it, and the block at the crown of the derrick. This thing is the size of a mid-size pickup, but weighs many tons on it's own. SO... the failure...
After the proper torsion was applied to the drill stem, the block was brought down to put some upward tension on the pipe, but the foreman applied too much too early, so that the slips rose just enough from the rotary table to begin spinning the block several times around. The cabling has almost 7 full twists in it, from block to crown, and wouldn't lift again. They had to apply tongs to the drill pipe and manually (with the help of the winch system) ratchet the pipe back around along with the block, then lifting it just enough each turn of the wrenches to reset the slip. It was the most nerve wracking industrial fail I'd ever been a part of, and if ONLY there had been cellphones back then, it'd be YT gold.
Ray when you going to revive the to truck rebuild?
I thought I was the only one who had these type days. Unfortunately I tried sanding primering and 3 step painting a car outside because I had no garage. Did good until the clear coat. A disaster. Did get it done after many trys. Almost gave up. Guess we all are human . We do . Thanks for showing this. I don't feel as bad.
I've used the repair option on dead batteries with modern battery chargers and brought them back to life. It takes several days sometimes but so worth giving it a try.
The sound of this truck makes me miss my uncles 95 2500 Chevy crew cab.
Sounds like its time to get all the lifts checked out. Glad no one was hurt
Some days things just pile up, but that was a lot to happen in one day. Makes you feel like staying home and pulling the covers over your head. Hopefully the days ahead will be better for awhile.
You should read the manual on the lift maintenance. It specifically mentions checking the cable and recommends replacing it regularly depending on how many times a day you use it.
Glad everyone is ok and no one got hurt or killed.
I bet you won’t let junk collect on your Flatbed again.🤣🤣. Sorry for the bad luck but fun to watch.
You make me wish I lived in Florida so you could work on my cars. Good, honest, well-intentioned mechanics are like striking gold. Keep shining!
You and Matt are a lot alike in that you have to repair your stuff to go handle another problem. Good part is problem is solved safely
anybody else have a mild heart attack when he was dangling the wrench over both battery terminals, or was it just me? :D
It’s only 12 volts.
@@Michael-yi4mc pretty sure you can still arc-weld a wrench to battery terminals with 12V and a whole buncha amps ;)
@@foobar1735 no, it just sparks
Ray you HAVE to get that truck ALL FIXED UP now! It just saved your butt and deserves it!
Honestly I think Matt would approve...
Glad you got it off safe and nobody and nothing was hurt!
That almost happened to me. Luckily, I noticed the cable was frayed before it snapped. The lift repair guy said to spray the lift cables with penetrating oil, because it's caused by friction in the strands
Well done Ray . Great work at getting the jeep down .
It would be great to see the truck all restored. It looks like it needs loads doing to it.
Ray has done videos on the truck before. The interior and externals were disassembled to have it painted to match his Silverado. But yeah, he needs to make time to put it back together.
@desotosky1372
Yes I know . Ive been a subscriber for the past 5 years.
Ray, happy no one was hurt. That's kinda scary. Love the channel.
I used to install Rotary lifts and you nailed how it more than likely failed. Often the cables are overtightened which as you correctly pointed out are only for carriage equalization. Once the bearings fail the cable just eats through everything including the pin until it snaps. I bet if you look up in the overhead you'll see you have to replace the cable sheave and possibly the pin too. I will say though Rotary makes good lifts and still does, so as long as the pump is still strong I think it would be worth it
But a lottery ticket, Ray. It's a very lucky day for you. The lift failed and you are not flat. ❤🎉😊
I've seen matt from Matt's off-road recovery do the same thing and more sketchy thiings. I think you're safe
I need a roll-back like that, to change the blades on my Cub Cadet mower!🤣
Had a similar problem with our lift, and we did the same thing with our rollback. Only difference was it was a 97 1 ton dually stuck on the lift. Great minds think alike.
Tow truck finally came in handy. Glad nobody was hurt. Rotary makes a good lift. Maybe it just needs cables and pulleys/bearings. A solar battery maintainer might help with the tow truck batteries.
Ray: For the PTO, CAT 3126 engines use the cruise control to adjust idle speed. If it's working it might be useful to set the desired RPM, but the wood block is quick too!
Nice and simple. Don't think the MORR team would say to much. Seen them play the sketchy game before also
Ray can even make a broken lift interesting.
Don’t go breaking my heart ❤🎵
19:11 that camera view makes the truck look as long as a greyhound bus.
That why i always put first the positive wire on the battery, like this if you touch the metal nothing will happen, So after the positive I usually put the negative and is safer that way. Keep up the good work. I`m always watching your videos.
This video proves that Ray has a very rare commodity that most people don't have anymore. (common sense). Nice job Ray. 👍
Now, that was a very well done rescue in a hairy situation that could have gone wrong in so many ways. Glad everything worked out for the better and nobody got injured.
That truck is the equivalent of the cobbler's shoes! 🤣But it works!
Good thing it was a Jeep and not some low sportscar that got stuck up there.
12:47 “Today is a day of safety.” That is the phrase of the week! I hate to jump on the band wagon but the ramp needs a little more love and she won’t be slowing you down next time you need her.
Ray, you sir always have a Plan B. The Army NEEDS yoiu!
If you can afford you a Bendpark lift … you a the right to have better tools.
You are incredibly talented and ingenious
I accidentally put the negative on first and proceeded to touch chassis with the wrench while putting on the positive. Learned my lesson. That wrench got so hot that it left a blister on my hand for a few weeks, and it proceeded to land in a puddle below and evaporated most of it. 1 out of 10, would not recommend.
N one should be pissed, you did it safely, and no injuries. Great video.