Card Pioneers or Snake Oil Salesman? You Decide...

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  • @RetailRipper
    @RetailRipper หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I watch a few of the big channels for entertainment purposes. I like to see what people are opening / buying. I'd never take advice from any of them tho.

  • @danbradley3294
    @danbradley3294 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If Geoff Wilson says buy, immediately sell!!

  • @thehighlanders607
    @thehighlanders607 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bringing to light the shady deeds of these people is good for the hobby to see and remember what they have done!

  • @SportsCardsNonsense
    @SportsCardsNonsense หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My favorite video that you have done to date sir !

  • @ZiggyNo
    @ZiggyNo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    GREAT VIDEO

  • @TheGooodGuys
    @TheGooodGuys หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎉🎉

  • @area51sea
    @area51sea หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Geoff Wilson opening a 1986 box off fleer pop up on my feed and I watched it and motivated me to break out my old collection from a kid and I got back into the hobby and now I am a subscriber to your channel.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area51sea that's a good story, thank you for sharing.

  • @junkwaxmuseum8878
    @junkwaxmuseum8878 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All clowns. If you know, you know.

  • @LA_FOCUS
    @LA_FOCUS 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All of these guys got lots of views and subscribers during the covid bubble. That was not a real sports card market. Things are back to normal so that means their views are back to normal.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LA_FOCUS they got plenty of subs between 2022 n 2024, much more thank you think.

  • @nabzy28
    @nabzy28 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All these people do is buy/sell/trade the same unnumbered shiny 'case hit' crap back and forth. Most of them have zero knowledge about vintage or, hell, even cards from over a decade ago.

  • @tombullard6167
    @tombullard6167 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I should keep more of an eye on the big influencers so I know who to be selling when the sheep are buying...😂

  • @pedrocirino5695
    @pedrocirino5695 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I could see the bullshit right thru all of these sports cards "gurus".. great video btw!

  • @bradycates9887
    @bradycates9887 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude the boom for cards is over. Every channel that was averaging 100000 views a video are all down 75 percent or more

    • @sarahandbrettSCAM
      @sarahandbrettSCAM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bingo you nailed it this sums it up

  • @bthojh9849
    @bthojh9849 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember when Market Movers was $50 per month when they had no competition? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

    • @sarahandbrettSCAM
      @sarahandbrettSCAM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nonsense that anyone was so nieve to pay for that when ebay comps are free lol

  • @jrgeb99
    @jrgeb99 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!!! It’s sad how much people let them get away with over the years.

    • @rockonufa02
      @rockonufa02 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People like who? Is there sports card police hotline you can call? You can just click out, unfollow, not watch. If you don’t care about their content, then don’t watch. It’s simple.

    • @jrgeb99
      @jrgeb99 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve already done that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I did that years ago

    • @BabyDoIIx
      @BabyDoIIx หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are they getting away with…? Nobody has to watch them, and what are they ‘getting away’ with?

    • @jrgeb99
      @jrgeb99 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BabyDoIIx getting away with the TH-cam algorithm recommending their content.

  • @tomchang732
    @tomchang732 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video

  • @Chris-ip9qg
    @Chris-ip9qg 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think people can still make decent money selling cards with Some capital.
    Sure I bet some are posers or number fudgers but at the same time majority are legit
    But it can work good mindset.

  • @giantasparagus
    @giantasparagus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Hot potato salesman..🥔

  • @BabyDoIIx
    @BabyDoIIx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair, when you show Geoff’s TH-cam … you’re saying how he’s only had 15-30k views … those videos are like 2 - 20 days old lol. 20k views in 2 days is extremely good… so that is a bit off to bring that up.
    If it was a video 2 months old with only 30k views? Sure… but you’re pointing out basically brand new videos some less than a weekend old lol.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BabyDoIIx card content videos don't have a plethora a viewers watch 3 month old content. You almost always watch what is out now.
      This is a fair observation that a few people mentioned. I'll make a follow up in 6 months to show my theory that these videos I just showed won't have much growth in the next 6 months or ever.
      There has never been a world where 1.2 million people watch a box of 1988 fleer being ripped, no other videos of the sort come close.

  • @mjh8492
    @mjh8492 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a casual in the hobby and maybe once a day I would literally type sports cards in TH-cam and see if anything interested me. I would never click on his videos but he consistently showed up near the top. I noticed it had change the last month or two before I saw this. Still get Geoff tho 😭

  • @mitchelljones7573
    @mitchelljones7573 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who doesn't collect sports cards (because i truly have no odea how to determine rarity at all) i actually enjoy watching all these creators for entertainment, now do i believe the investing part? No not at all, but i do like the entertainment

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mitchelljones7573 interesting take...I can understand you finding it fun or entertainjng, others do to.
      For me, a collector since I was 5, so 34 years, it's rough to watch sometimes. And it was really exciting thinking the market was that big. 1.2 million people watching about sports cards video in ripping fleer 1988, no chance in hell, especially seeing other big card channels never hit close to that view count.
      Appreciate your view n glad your watching card content! Lol

  • @JohnWilliams-wz9vk
    @JohnWilliams-wz9vk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Called Geoff Wilson's card shop in Atlanta ...some kid answered the phone..he was clueless ..no one there could answer basic questions..

    • @slowyo9645
      @slowyo9645 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been there in person, all the employees are sitting on desks looking through card boxes, looking to possibly snipe good deals before they hit shelves. I'm of course speculating on the last part. I did buy a card and they were willing to work with me on price though.

    • @JohnWilliams-wz9vk
      @JohnWilliams-wz9vk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slowyo9645 staffing is tough now .I get it .but..

  • @sarahandbrettSCAM
    @sarahandbrettSCAM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. As far as view counts being down the crazy unsustainable boom is over. A lot of the channels are so boring now. Im sure most would agree hence the low view count. Most of the subs came during the covid boredom time a lot of those people never view that content. They never unsubscribed.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sarahandbrettSCAM Thanks! I disagree with a couple things...BUT where I do agree, "a lot of those channels are so boring now." No doubt, lot of copycat and unoriginal content.

    • @sarahandbrettSCAM
      @sarahandbrettSCAM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@professorsportscards yea everyone was viewing them when cards are going up everyday not so much when they're on the decline. Sports card investor got most subs during the pandemic when everyone was searching card stuff after seeing and hearing about it on the news or internet. Thats where a huge chunk of the subs likely came from. Most of those people are gone now. The hype was going to be short lived it was obvious it the time I thought.

  • @SportsCardCollectorChronicles
    @SportsCardCollectorChronicles หลายเดือนก่อน

    I quite enjoyed the video. I think the only thing I would offer is about the views comment not about any specific person. I think when you look at a video you are comparing 100K view a year ago to 10k ish in the last 7 day that is not wholistically accurate. You are assuming a video is static or ends at some point. If you go back 3 months videos have 10s of thousands of views. That points to steady viewership over time. 10k views in a week could grow to 520K in a year is constant.. So a marked drop off would be around 60-100K. The math checks. Especially when the algorithm would keep sharing it out especially based on upload frequency. Pretty simple viewership math. I love the video but the viewership numbers check out. Now this has nothing to do with how I feel about any of these people, just merely the numbers. Keep doing what you do.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SportsCardCollectorChronicles several people have mentioned this. Those videos are not the type to stack views over the years.
      I guess it's something i can follow up on in 6 months to a year and see. I'd be absolutely shocked of the videos with around 10k from the last few months have any growth at all in that time period.

  • @kerryrauschendorfer4491
    @kerryrauschendorfer4491 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you could be on to something with Card Collector 2, but with Geoff Wilson, I think some of the reduction in viewing could be the fact that there are less people in the hobby right now.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kerryrauschendorfer4491 let me ask it a different way. There are other very good channels, I'll point to cardcollectordealorinvestor, he has been around the same amount of time and to any true hobbyist his content is far better. His numbers are nowhere close to Geoff or Card Collector 2.
      There isn't a marker for 1.2 million people to watch him open a box of 1988 fleer for a pippin rookie, that is the biggest red flag to me. Any card video that has 500,000+ views is not real in my research, the niche doesn't now and never did support that volume of watchers.

  • @goatretrogamer
    @goatretrogamer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subs vs views isn't an exact science. Did they promote? Obviously yes especially CC2 the Dylan Mulvaney of the hobby. But if you're a big sub channel and getting 10% of your sub count you're doing good. Great video tho and an eye opener

  • @corbind.collectibles919
    @corbind.collectibles919 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ryan Johnson is awesome. He and like many others is giving the sports card world a community to reach beyond the cards itself. Just because they make the most money and have tons of views doesn't make them snake oil salesman or deceiving. I understand why there might be an anti-sports card influencer video here and there but people like Ryan really see this as a community base. If he has done wrong, which he has, he makes up for it and does the right thing.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@corbind.collectibles919 I get a vibe Ryan is a good dude who loves cards. However I also think he is learning as he goes and some of his tactics are pretty gimmicky. I'd be frustrated if I went from 100,000 plus views a video, down to 8,000. Something doesn't add up?

  • @blakesbreaksrips7088
    @blakesbreaksrips7088 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This all coincides with the decline in the hobby do to the fall of the American economy / inflation as they call it..

  • @jimbobrobertson3285
    @jimbobrobertson3285 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big Boy did it!

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimbobrobertson3285 get him a glass of water

  • @SS-pc6dg
    @SS-pc6dg หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't understand what your complaint is exactly but this video seems to be a part of what you are complaining about. Who cares if some guy creates content by doing fake deals? Who cares if some guy buys into breaks or mystery boxes on the faith that it is what they think? If people are not capable of making decisions in their best self-interest... life is going to be tough and losing money on sports cards is likely one of the least harmful negative experiences this person will endure through life. Your "issue" shouldn't be limited to the online sporting card industry as this is how life works. If you think humans don't lie and don't promote based on self-interest... good luck. This video really makes you seem like a hater, your title is clickbait and the views going down could be due to more content being available.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SS-pc6dg whose complaining?

    • @SS-pc6dg
      @SS-pc6dg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@professorsportscards Yes, complaint. Who cares if someone pays to boost their content? It is a business decision. Maybe CC2 would only have a couple hundred views on recent videos if he hadn't previously invested (assuming you are correct). You should listen to what you say in the video again... the entire video is a complaint. Michael Jordan was commonly photographed with his mouth open.. and tongue sticking out but I bet that is okay to you bc you were hating on CC2 bc you are jealous. Also, I was watching GG live when he tried the mystery box streams. Anybody who bought into them is a sucker and needs to learn to not trust everyone. I would want to know every card in the boxes, have all the boxes purchased and then opened all at the same time to even consider buying. One talented magician or adhesive chemist would make a killing as a breaker. This video is nothing more than a hater venting, especially with the click-bait title *exactly what you complain about). The cards aren't the business FYI and if you ever thought differently then you are a sucker too. I wanted to read your long-winded reply you deleted....

    • @madmike8365
      @madmike8365 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do you care if someone is making a video about all the BS card influencers that are a big part of inflated values and opening hot boxes that the average person is never going to get. How can you not care if people are running breaks that are fraudulent in some way? Defending the shitty people in the hobby is something to care about. I know you don't care about anything apparently which I'm calling bullshit on or you are a part of the problem and didn't want to admit that part. Curious, where do you scam? Whatnot, fanatics, eBay? Maybe PSA or one of the many many card grading companies that are run from someones basement. Call this guy a hater but you are delusional and a big part of why the dam hobby is just gambling being bought and sold by people that don't give a fuc about sports or sports trading cards. This is worse than the first junk wax era, and this 100% is a junk wax era filled with cockroaches that look like middle aged men but will shove a kid out of the way to fill his cart with everything on the shelf so he can resell it for triple the price. Yes I saw that happen and the piece of garbage didn't get his cards that day. But you don't care about anything anyways so there's really nothing else to say. Don't forget your scale next time you get the call on restock day.

    • @patriots.celtics.bruins3035
      @patriots.celtics.bruins3035 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      God forbid you expect someone to have integrity anymore, right!? God forbid you expect someone to be genuine, right!? I mean god forbid anyone does anything on the up & up anymore, right!? What they’re doing is despicable because a lot of young kids/teens watch their videos and believe they’re seeing “real deals” and receiving good advice from these YT’ers when in fact, they’re not. Grown men, yes should understand these videos are for entertaining purposes and the creators financial gain and we’ll see through the bullsh*t but when you’re deceiving kids/teens for views, you are a piece of garbage. With your logic we should just accept everyone is a lying, cheating piece of crap or we should accept Shiesty card collectors because “that’s how life works”….thats dumb.

  • @Bostnfn
    @Bostnfn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if some of their lower views comes from people just being tired of them. It's just the same content over and over and over. I can't remember the last time I watched one of Ryan of Geoff's video.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bostnfn that is fair, id argue going from 600,000 views to 8,000 views, with 300k subscribers is probably more than people just watching less. If your theory is right their channels are heavily failing compared to 2 years ago.

  • @mnplumberman
    @mnplumberman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To be fair with subscribers vs views. I am subscribed to probably 150-200 channels and only regularly watch the videos of 10-20 of them. I do think it's likely they promoted those videos, got a bunch of views and subs, and then everyone realized they are garbage and stopped watching.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mnplumberman I agree with you, I'm the same with subscribing but only watching a small percentage.
      But as an example going from 200,000+ views down to 20,000 views a video is a tell. I know if that was my channel I'd be like wtf did I do wrong.

    • @BabyDoIIx
      @BabyDoIIx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@professorsportscardsthat’s because you’re comparing an all time video from 6+ months ago, to videos that literally were 2+ days old…

  • @eltirador6585
    @eltirador6585 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol wait them doing a video is self promotion and yeah I mean manny people pay to promote there videos it’s called advertisement

  • @USCfan03
    @USCfan03 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are you even talking about Blez?? He’s not even in the hobby anymore. Hes a gambler now

  • @ravijaquez7
    @ravijaquez7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before you did this video, I believe you should have done your research and make sure that you are stating facts about everybody that you are talking about and insinuating about. To be claiming things that to you look suspicious without proof is petty. When it comes to number of views they are getting it all depends on the content. When these guys go to the National to buy and sell then you know the views are going to be high. At the end it’s all about the hustle and what people are willing to pay for a card. Unless you have facts about crooked influencers you shouldn’t be insinuating because it makes the hobby look bad.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ravijaquez7 you think I made the video with no research?

    • @ravijaquez7
      @ravijaquez7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@professorsportscards not enough to say that what you are claiming is in fact the truth and you got receipts.

    • @buddyc8963
      @buddyc8963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@ravijaquez7 you must want to be one of those gate keepers lol. Keep everything positive or I'll cry 😢

    • @ravijaquez7
      @ravijaquez7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@buddyc8963 there’s just too much in your windows or hear say or it’s so obvious, nowadays and not enough of the truth. At the end of the day we are all people. I don’t know these influencers but if your going to say that they are a bunch of liars and put them under the bus you should back it up instead of the insinuations and then say what do you think. Last I heard you are innocent until proven guilty.

    • @len6482
      @len6482 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haters going to hate. Geoff Wilson has put his money where his mouth is and is working hard to elevate the hobby, see his state of the art shop? Cardcollector2 is also dropping big money, always hustling and sharing his journey. Both influencers have contributed a lot to the hobby and the rest of you hating just wish you could have a fraction of the action they deal with.

  • @Joy-of-collecting
    @Joy-of-collecting หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I happen to like Ryan at Card Collector2. I like Ryan because he knows what he's talking about when it comes to cards Many Box Breakers don't know the difference between a Patch and Jersey or the difference between an RPA and a Rookie Jersey Autograph. As far as the Sports card Invester, I don't trust him.

    • @Yankee1469
      @Yankee1469 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ryan sux

  • @user-hf4rp3wc8n
    @user-hf4rp3wc8n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly I don't think it's fair to compare videos from 2-3 years ago to the last few months. Sales and nowhere near what they was then so that tells you it's not that they were paying for videos just a lot of people got out of the hobby. People came in during the pandemic to make a quick buck then they left. Everything is down from the pandemic Era. When people couldn't physically go to work or school they sat around most of the day watching TH-cam now that the world has opened back up people are going out, partying, traveling, etc. So not as many people still watch this type of content when there's other things that peaked their interests. Good video though 👌 👍 👏.

    • @professorsportscards
      @professorsportscards  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-hf4rp3wc8n if it had to do with sales neither would be expanding stores. Geoff just spent millions on a store front. I don't believe the view count has anything to do with sales or card popularity.
      Almost all of the high view videos were from well after we were stuck at home from the pandemic (4+ years ago), and they were made while cards were alrwady on a steady decline.
      It is fair to assume they were trying to be market leaders, so promoted their content a bunch. It probably turned out to be the wrong strategy in the long run. Or maybe not, they're profiting I'd assume.

    • @user-hf4rp3wc8n
      @user-hf4rp3wc8n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@professorsportscards I'm subscribing just because you responded.

  • @Andrew-yl1lf
    @Andrew-yl1lf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video