What Happened To The 12 Players Drafted Before Kobe Bryant
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- From an iconic superstar to a guy who was brutally murdered by his own family...
This Is What Happened To The 12 Players Drafted Before Kobe Bryant
0:00 Intro
0:54 1996 Draft Class
1:11 How The Lakers Got Kobe Bryant
2:17 1st Pick - Allen Iverson
3:40 2nd Pick - Marcus Camby
4:38 3rd Pick - Shareef Abdur Rahim
5:21 4th Pick - Stephon Marbury
7:17 5th Pick - Ray Allen
8:52 6th Pick - Antoine Walker
10:16 7th Pick - Lorenzen Wright
12:44 8th Pick - Kerry Kittles
14:17 9th Pick - Samaki Walker
15:22 10th Pick - Erick Dampier
16:07 11th Pick - Todd Fuller
16:53 12th Pick - Vitaly Potapenko
18:01 Conclusion
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Hey Guys, I realize I misspoke on some parts:
AI was voted to the Top 75 Team in 2001 [2021],
Ray Allen played for 8 years [18],
Ray Allen won the championship with the Heat in 2003 [2013],
Wright's ex-wife was sentenced in 2009 [2019].
This video was a beast to make but I had a lot of fun...
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Good work but read with knowledge and understanding and there will be way less mistakes. I see that you are younger guy which hasn't seen these dudes live...good luck in your future work!
Also 1:23, Lakers didn’t have “no picks.” They had one, and drafted Derek Fisher with it.
Right, I was about to comment these. Do better next time.
@@elayda93 u really typed that out 😂😎😂😎
Shareef played in the 2002 ASG not 2001
Sometimes I forget Kobe's gone, like it still doesn't seem real. RIP Kobe
It's sad Kobe got beat by LeBron
Sad
Legends never die but rip
Yeah fr
IK RIGHT
I hate when people say they passed on Kobe like anyone knew how good he’d be and if AI had shaq in his prime we’d be talking about his and shaqs run of championships.
True. People fail to recognize that the Lakers won three championships in a row with Phil Jackson coaching a ROTY center in his prime years, and then two more championships with Phil Jackson coaching a ROTY center in his prime years. In the years between, overrated Cope Bryant did nothing of value in what should have been his own prime years. Oh, and Derek Fisher was part of the Shaq Lakers, then left, then got back and was a part of the Pau Gasol Lakers.
@@ME-kd1ko your argument is that kobe is overrated because pau won rookie of the year lmao makes no sense whatsoever
@@2FadeMusic I'm not saying that's why he's overrated. He's overrated because he couldn't get anything done when he was the best player on his team, he's overrated because he was the definition of an inefficient ball hog, he's overrated because he has so many fans who sadly don't know better.
@@ME-kd1ko how old are you?
People that say dumb ass shit like this don't know basketball. They love to forget that Penny Hardaway was with Shaq and they didn't do a God damn thing. Allen Iverson had a great team. It's why you made the NBA finals without shaq
Man that's terrible for Lorenzen. Imagine doing all you can and managing to get your team for the FIRST time in franchise history to the playoffs. You're on fire. You cannot be stopped.
Then you are murdered. By the person closest to you.
And the dude she’s fucking. The amount of foul play there is insane
Yeah I remember when this happened it was on my birthday
@@Atombender th-cam.com/video/qgDrpWWxuto/w-d-xo.html
@@Atombender yeah why would you do that? You’re basically just telling the copsyou just killed someone
Yea, only a friend can betray you.
The 1996 Draft was so good. Iverson, Ray Allen, Steve Nash, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Antoine Walker, Stephon Marbury....I loved it
And Ben Wallace was undrafted in that draft
@Memeucinno The most underrated, oftenly forgot to mention and one of the best players from Europe
Tbh as good as kobe was there really no wrong with that draft class everyone was a hof player
@Memeucinno hes so slept on and is litteraly one of the best european players ever
@@niggato23 Neither was I
My brother was in day care with Lorenzen’s child, my Dad recalls having seen him picking his kid multiple times and being taken back at his height, Lorenzen was larger than life, and a good guy, horrible that he was taken from us in the way he was, may he rest in peace
Jerry West is spectacular. Prolly, he advised Kobe to not take the path to collegiate teams and declare for draft on a guarantee that the Lakers would pick him and will do miles to get him. Because that year, Jerry West prolly knew that it'll be a stacked draft class and NBA Teams and GMs wouldn't want to gamble on a highschool student who was 17 or 18 years old that time.
he was 17 when jerry showed interest in him after the workout he saw. kobe had mentioned that his parents signed the contract because he wasnt legally able to yet.
A church deacon? As SMH
Kobe's agent declared Kobe wouldn't play for anyone but the Lakers... so instead of picking Kobe and getting into silly shenanigans getting him to actually play or trying to trade him, teams took other players... so it was really unfair of him/his agent/parents to do this .... but he was great, so no one cared. Therefore whole premise of teams simply missing on him is false.
@@szmike I largely agree with your point, but I'm sure there are some teams who had Kobe too low on their draft boards and we shouldn't let them off the hook for this discussion, either.
@@mrmacross yes and no.... hindsight is 20/20....
1.pretty much everyone thought he would be all-star (LeBron predraft was viewed kinda the same)
2.any sane GM would think twice in such situation: there was small risk he wouldn't become all-star; Kobe already had big ego (he would back it with his play, but who knew?), which was red flag; team would get disgruntled player right off the bat and would have to deal with it somehow; high school players were rare in draft; the draft was pretty good anyway; at the end of the day GM would risk his job too.
Thus I wouldn't blame anyone for not taking the risk. Had anyone done that, things might have pan out differently. We'll never know. Kobe required special coach too, he was kinda rough, especially early.
it's crazy that I as a casual NBA fan has heard of all of these players. that's how stacked this draft was
I feel like that as a Casual MLB fan or NHL fan when they bring up a stacked draft.. You can tell a draft was stacked when you have heard of almost the players mentioned and you don't even follow it like a hardcore fan does..
"Because there are no 4s" is such a goated quote.
7:26 Ray Allen was named as an all-star in 2000 not 1999. There's no all-star game in 1999 because of the lockout.
He also said Ray Allen helped the heat win the 2003 championship. 2013*
@@LogicalReasons yeah, i think he wasn't reading, he was skimming while creating this vid
he also said A.I. is selected to nba top 75 list in 2001😂
He also said ray allen had a 8 year career
he also said "antone" instead of "antwan" for antoine walker
That closing statement from MJ still gives me chills. 😢
that Lorenzon Wright story is heartbreaking
True
His own wife and she told on herself sad
Eric Dampier somehow making 100 million dollars in his career is a pretty impressive feat.
Teams were desperate for big men.
Man that's really messed up how Lorezen Wright & kobe died smh. RIP Lorezen & Kobe
Marbury single handedly destroyed Spain's perfect run (already beaten gold medal Argentina) in the 2004 olimpics. Here in Spain we always remember that, if someones deserves to recieve less blame in that tournament from the US is him.
Iverson had a really hard time on that run. Was shooting less than 40% from the field
LeBron seemed on fire but Larry Brown didn't let him play much at all, but when a dude's shooting almost 60% from the field and good scoring per minute you let that guy run!
Tbh. It's all on Larry Brown.
is that the game where Marbury went insane on threes? i remember him doing that but can't remember if it was vs spain.
Every players in that draft is good. Even number 2 pick became defensive player of the year and they still call him bust sometimes.
Only a casual would call Camby a bust
@@thenotoriousdig610 only a casual would think camby is actually good
Yea he’s closer to a bust than an actual superstar
@@kingbee4905 list good power forwards in 2000s then let's see if he is close to bust.
Bust is what he was and what he’s known so hey 🤷🏾♂️
Amazing draft class!!! This was a good time to watch NBA!
What a highly entertaining video. Thorough, and nicely paced. Great job! ESPN is calling
Thanks for the kind words and watching! really appreciate it!
@@HenryHoops that's some professional level video content And quality
this is dope!! man wright story is cray!!!!
this is a great style of video, very informative. Next the Antonhy Bennet draft lol
I was a Warriors season ticket holder during the Todd Fuller draft pick fiasco. Poor ole' Fuller. I've never seen a more visibly nervous NBA player. My friends and I used to call him "Frankenstein," due to his lumbering on-court movements.
I'm also a Dubs lifer that experienced all those lean years. I remember I wanted Kobe in that draft to back up Sprewell and then getting "crew cut" Todd Fuller. Followed that flop of a pick with another stiff, Andrew Declerc. All this after we had traded my all time favorite player, Tim Hardaway for yet another stiff in Rony Seikly and Bimbo Coles. Those were tough years.
I don't think his personality was really suitable for pro sports. But wow, look at the stuff he did after his career, and to top it all off he played in the fricking NBA. What a life.
This is the reason i put him with Mike as the 🐐. No one in history has ever had a higher draft and yet accomplished so much. Crazy rip kobe
That’s not true at all but okay
@@TheIcemanthomas name another?
@@Jsdbrown25 umm Manu ginobli, Ben Wallace was unstaffed and became a hofer, Giannis, etc
@@TheIcemanthomas ginobli wasn't the main driving force behind the chips. He was good but definitely not better then kobe..Ben wallace please. Giannis has 1 chip, his story is yet to be completed so will see.
I just have to say your reels brought me to your vids, great way to pull in viewers and making it easy to find your videos.
bro hit me right in my feels wit the jordan clip at the end
"Little Brother" from MJ just hit different
This was an insane draft full of MVP's
Yup
There was only 3 mvp winners. Lol
This is one of the greatest basketball content i have watched on social media
Usually these kind of videos are full of busts but this one is stacked with legends.
Ray Allen played from 1996 to 2014, hardly 8 years…
Great video. Brings back memories. Great draft year for sure!
Nice short reel to get me here putting in the work.
You guys make nice content! Keep grinding
Appreciate it!!
@@HenryHoops ray Allen helped the heat win a ring in 2013, not 2003
I didn't know Ray Allen helped the heat win in 2003 😂💀
Great Video!!
Great video!
As a Hornets fan i love how Kobe said we didn't want him. Not the case he refused to play for us. But it worked out for him. What a killer
He said no to the old hornets not the new ones
@@darthandeddeu the current Hornets are the Old Hornets they were the Hornets From 1988-2002 before becoming the Bobcats in 2004-2014 before becoming the Hornets again
The Pelicans when they joined the NBA and were the Hornets between 2002-2013 before changing to the Pelicans
So The Hornets that drafted Kobe are the Hornets today
@@JAS0N_M00RE No, they're not. The Bobcats was a different franchise, they're an expansion team in 2004. The Hornets became the Pelicans, so when they switched the monikers, MJ poached the name back and renamed the Bobcats to Hornets.
Damn... ending this video with Jordan saying "rest in peace..." hit me.
great video....thanks
Excellent video
In 1984 draft day. Rockets is so close on trading Ralph Sampson for Clyde Drexler and #2 pick on that year's draft. The Rockets is planning to draft Hakeem at #1 and MJ at #2. Imagine the Rockets with 3 future HoFers.
Wait a second...Rockets could have had Hakeem, MJ, and Drexler???😳 They would have challenged Russell-era Celtics for number of championships.
That would've been fucked up.
If Portland would have bit, Houston would have won every chip from 84 to 96. MJ would be the undisputed GOAT(he wouldn't stop scoring). There would be no talking about the Lakers, Celtics, Pistons the Bulls would have been sold(no chips). Portland would have been garbage with Ralph Sampson's knees. Clyde would be considered the best small forward ever(better than LeBron or Larry). Hakeem would be better than Russell. Who could stop them offensively? Defensively the 2 best all time players on the same team? YIKES. My Bulls missed a bullet.
you could also mention Peja Stojaković. a three-time all-star, two-time three-point winner and one of the league's best shooters of all time. I mean, when you mentioned some players after Bryant
Great editing and video.
This was a really good video. Nice job
“Because there’s no fours”
🥶
Too be fair the teams who passed on Kobe had a big need to find players who can be stars right away and played to their needs. Kobe was a project player the Lakers could afford to wait for.
They had a stacked guard team. I'm shocked Kobe managed to step up and progress. There wasn't enough room to put him on the floor.
Only really the 6ers needed him but with Iverson there was no chance for Kobe being no.1
Excellent video. Interesting and informative. A lot of good memories for me.
hahahaaaa that s/o to that music edit for that g.s pick and that cav. pic🤣🤣
there wouldn't have been kobe and lebron. if the cavs picked kobe, they wouldn't have gotten lebron because of the imapact of kobe which would make the cavs a different seed and possibly not get the number 1 pick and get lebron.
Kobe will not be a superstar since no shaq will carry him in CLE
@@ervingjamesdelrosario5019 quit being another typical clueless PEEnoy bandwagon.
Kobe would not carry cleveland, for kobe to shine he needs the best rebounders because of the fact that he misses alot. Cleveland didnt have one of the greatest rebounders.
@@iamphatphobic7617 yeah right, Kobe definitely had great rebounders in Kwame Brown and Cris Mihm when he was carrying the Lakers in the playoffs back in 04 to 07. Nice.
@@misterclass4612 Doesnt matter if he gets far with decent rebounders. He gets to the finals with great rebounders.
I was expecting AI vs Marburry kind of Magic vs Bird rival that time but sadly it didn’t happen
i still remember NBA live games from that era. Loved Francis, Iverson, Marburry, Tracy McGrady, Carter, Gartnett... So many good players.
Very very good video
Shareef played in the 06 playoffs for Sacramento
Kobe 🥺
I enjoyed the full video
18:50 This ending messed me up. Well done.
I actually had the opportunity to watch Vitaly Potapenko when he was in college at Wright State University...he definitely had the talent to be a star it just didn't work out
Long form requires research and proofreading. But 1M views could be 5 or 10m if done thoroughly. Good luck and good video
This was a good video ngl
this is the only short that actually made me wanna watch the full video
That “Mamba out” sent shivers down my body almost made me cry😔
Bro it’s been two years no way ur still crying
@@Goldenwolf077 lmao you’re a goofy that likes his own comment💀
@@Goldenwolf077 lmao you even like your own videos😭😂
@@anthonyreeder2310 I know u ain’t talking how u had your account for 2 years and you still got no vids and you prob got one of your friends to subscribe. I’m not trying to start anything I’m just saying it’s been 2 years why you still crying. Like chill out I was just asking something. You starting a whole argument just because I asked something.
@@Goldenwolf077 stfu you’re literally 9
A.I.'s "practice" is chef's kiss but hearing multiple talk about him throwing errant passes AT teammates screaming "I'm Mugsy Bogues!" is amazing too. Only dude that I thought was better than Kobe when the draft happened and definitely believe it now.
Yo this is exactly how you should make shorts, obv maybe speed it up a tiny bit but give the viewer exactly what they want to know and then pin a full video! Great stuff :D
Wonderful. What a great time to be a card collector and fan. Have subscribed!
Interesting video.
Damn that draft was loaded.....
Crazy right?!
@@HenryHoops Nash, AI, Kobe, and Jermaine O’Neal. Good class. 2003 was great too. Lebron, Dwade, Melo, and Bosh
@@DominicDumo. don't forget about ray allen
@@witwaf1493 and Stojakovic
How the Lakers got Kobe is the biggest finesse I've ever seen
High school draft picks, because of their age, were seen as higher risk. Also, Nash (chosen later) won more MVPs and should have won a third whereas Kobe won a single MVP he likely shouldn’t have received.
Easy he forced his way over there
@@Cujobob You’re arguing Nash was better than Kobe?
@@alexdelarge703 I was simply relaying facts, however, when you look at the numbers:
Nash has more MVPs and fewer rape allegations.
@@Cujobob 😂😂😂😂
Mamba put is still one of the coldest lines ever🥶
Pronouncing Vitaly Potapenko that got me laughing😂😂😂
The reason why Kobe "dropped" to the 13th pick is because he said he would not sign with any team that draft him unless it was the Lakers or some other team (I think it was a short list of 2 or 3 teams) He said he would go play in Europe instead.
That's why everyone passed on him. Not because they thought there were better players out there.
Yet the Hornets picked him
@@younglove3362 yup, and they were forced to trade him for Vlade.
@@younglove3362hornets picked him because he was available at 13 and his availability was what allowed the Vlade trade to happen. If he wasn’t there at 13, then Vlade isn’t traded to them
He was also a 6’5 high school player. Garnett hasn’t even panned out yet, he was drafted the year before, and so they were looking at getting a kid and waiting for him to develop
That's a pretty damned good draft. Obviously Kobe was a top 10 all time player, but most of these guys were franchise type players. Even Kerry Kittles wasn't a BAD player. No second guessing this draft
Practice! The legendary interview
Aye yo what’s with the!! “take the Vaseline an swallow it”!
To Dampier's credit he really balled out in his contract year. Averaged 12 points and 12 rebounds in his final year with the Warriors to get that new contract with the Mavs.
Then the Mavs really regretted that
@@bobsink624 No actually he played fine for Dallas and gave them good interior defense
@@DanielSong39 thought Chandler was the center for them?
@@bobsink624 That was after Dampier's contract was up
But yes Chandler played well in his first stint with the Mavericks and they won the championship that season
1984 was the best draft
Hakeem Olajuwon
Michael Jordan
Charles Barkley
John Stockton
1996 has more champions, more All-Star appearances, more NBA accollades. The top 3 were better in 1984 but if were looking at the whole draft, 1996 has it beat imo.
These 2 draft classes are honestly weirdly compared, you have the 96 draft that was guard heavy, while 84 was kinda all over the place. Saying Jordan was better than the guards of the 96 draft is no matter how you look at it, difficult, why? We won't get into championship talks, cause Jordan didn't win anything when he was his most dominant as a heavy iso scorer, except scoring titles, which I am sure he wouldn't have as many if the 96 draft guards were playing when Jordan was.
Hakeem was better than the 96 draft centers I guess, and Barkley was better than the 96 power forwards I guess; I say, "I guess" cause Hakeem brought something new to the league in his time, which was footwork that allowed him to work the paint unlike anything the league had ever seen. The centers of 96 that actually mattered, were in too much trouble in their careers to reach their potential.
Stockton might have only looked so special cause he was playing alongside one of the highest scoring players in NBA history for most of his career.
All in all, the 84 draft had way too many players, for me to give them the nod over the 96 or 03 draft, for just 4 insanely overhyped players, it is next to impossible to truly claim a player is actually "better" than another player, and that even moreso in the case of AI, the guy is in his own bracket, no one at that height, with a background that isn't even basketball to start with, is anywhere near Iverson
@@gangstagummybear3432 You make some good points, but youre missing the point of comparing drafts. Its the entire draft that should be looked at. Top end talent does matter, but the 96 draft was SIGNFICANTLY better than the 84 draft. Stockton, Hakeem, Jordan, Thorpe, Perkins and Willis were the only notable players from the 84 draft. The drop off between Stockton, Jordan, Barkley and Hakeem and the rest is pretty big though. I agree the top end is better, but is it really? Nash compares decently well with Stockton, and Hakeem doesnt really have a match in the 96 draft. But Jordan and Kobe are close enough that people can have a somewhat reasonable debate over who was better (even though its clearly Jordan, the fact that we can even debate them, means its close enough) But in terms of looking at both drafts as a whole, Ray Allen, Camby, Shareef, Walker, Wright, Kittles, Stojakovic, O'neal, Ilgauskas, Derrick Fisher, ....The 96 draft has SO many more impactful players.....So many big roles and so many more players that played big minutes for a lot of franchises. If were looking at both drafts, the 96 draft had longer careers, more impactful players that stayed in the league and put up stats. Imo the 96 Draft is clearly better, and only the 2003 draft compares. If we get over the Jordan bias, the 86 draft isnt THAT much better....
@@Amm17ar I think Jordan and Kobe are over praised, but the only thing I give Jordan over Kobe is his hands and his leaping ability, that is the only thing that would put him over Kobe if I had to say so.
@@Amm17ar 95
That draft class was epic
As a long time Warriors fan, I remember Eric Dampier was named *"The Hands of Stone."*
Wow I didn't know Lorenzen Wright was murdered. Rip, I remembered when he played for the Clippers. I know he was a journeyman, but like Robert Horry being an honorary Laker, Lorenzen is an honorary Clipper in my mind
I owed 5 different pairs of Iverson’s kicks. He had some heat
Back in their days, for some reason, Ive always compared the Carter- Kobe rivalry as the Bird-Magic of that era and Iverson as Isaiah Thomas.
"Take some Vaseline... and swallow it *gulp*" I'm dead💀
And thats how you beat Covid and become the Best Chinese Basketball player ever!
8:13 I think you meant 2013, not 2003
Hahaha, it also said Ray 3 time gold medalist
I was just thinking that
Dude clearly isn’t a fan and just making content. He messed up his research 😂
He also said Ray only had an 8 year career
He just fumbled entirely on rays part 💀
Alperen Sengun will be a superstar, went #16 overall
Kevin Porter Jr will be one of the best nba players all time to be drafted #30
Porter is just as likely to be out of the league in 2 years.
For somebody to be saying hello while gunshots go off in the back is crazy & also rip Kobe 🖤& gigi
Geez! This draft class was so stacked.
Kobe and Pierce would’ve been a awesome duo.
Kobe was someone that was a Low-Risk High-Reward player, that people that the opposite of. And they regretted that. RIP Kobe
Ray allen won a championship in 2008 with the celtics and 2013 with the heat.. Great video
T.Fuller was a teacher at my school in NC 😂😂😂
I hate what happened to wright I been a Memphis Tigers fan my whole life he was a class act who's life was taken away to soon for no reason
You don’t always get Kobe when you take a risk. Sometimes you get Kwame brown.
Bruhhh😂😂😂
Elite draft class🔥
I love this video, specially Kobe is one of my inspiration. RIP 🐍💜💛
I didn’t know Ray allen helped the Heat win a championship in 2003 ..
Dude is killing me with these dates. AI was a top 75 player in 2001 also?
man this draft was STACKED. Starbury needed some help. A mental guidance type guy. He could have been one of the greats. Happy for his redemption arc in China though.
What’s the song playing during Antoine Walkers part?
Yoooooo im from Spain and that’s my hometown Algeciras 16:25
If only bucks somehow manage to keep both Ray Allen and Michael Redd together. 😔😔
Vin baker too
Saw this on TikTok
Welcome to the TH-cam Channel!
One of the best draft classes!
Look at the players right after. It’s wild the people picked before all them
RIP TO THE LEGEND KOBE THE BLACK MAMBA, HE IS GREAT SCORER AND PLAY MAKER, ONE OF THE G.O.A.T.