Horford in his first 7 years in the NBA took a grand total of 29 three-point shots, and the next 7 years took over 1300 three-point shots. That's mind blowing.
Even crazier is that in 2015 he took only 36 threes and the next season he took 259 of them. To me that's one of the best examples of Stephen Curry effect
Also shows you that the good and great players of each era most of the time would have been able to adapt to the game, regardless of how drastic. Had Horford retired after those first 7 would anyone say that 510 threes made from him in his next 7 years was possible? No
Really love the Al Horford transformation. I’ve always argued players like Hakeem would’ve developed a 3-pt shot if he played in this era. Good players always find a way to adapt.
@@rafikz77 it also favored Jordan. I mean if MJ was on that 2004 team with the Lakers against the Pistons he would have the same result as Kobe for sure.
It's not hard. This generation is the best , the next will be better and so on. It's like that in every sport for every era. Evolution doesn't stop. And yes having better equipment and having more knowledge of the sport is part of the evolution process. It's a factor we need to accept. Every era has better equipment then the previous. People's nostalgia and emotion take over and you have clowns that are convinced MJ's era was better then today because they're Insecure about their idol being the goat so they need to hype up an entire era. Basketball is the only sport that doesn't publicly admit it's far better now and it's probably the sport that has improved the most after hockey to which btw Wayne Gretzky said publicly he wouldn't even make today's NHL cause it's too big, fast and skilled. Imagine that.
@@jsgr5382 This generation is the most talented but you need to see the other side of that to understand why is it’s the most talented. It’s because of the environment and everything players have access to growing up in life and once they get to the league. Guys in the 60’s,70’s and 80’s had to work multiple jobs on low salary, wear converses, play without a three point line, have extremely limited knowledge to the extent of which we know medical info now. Basketball training wasn’t the same back then and the game was still relatively new so people were still understanding the game and trying to figure it out. Skill wise and strategy wise the game was still developing and not to mention the impact of technology for film and we’ll almost everything in world we live in today. And not to mention how many rules have changed throughout the years. My point is people never bring up perspective and context when comparing eras. Nobody was able to grow up the same way from back then compared to now. Born in 1975 and playing in the league 20 years later is way different than being born in 1995 and playing 20 years later. That’s why no matter how much people debate it will always extremely difficult to compare eras
@@kiLLAGlock94 nope no excuses just reality. Our society has it way better today. The amount of access we have today because of the advancements in our life is awesome. Me trying to provide context of how it’s different isn’t excuses
I really admire those men from the 50s and 60s. While they were not nearly as talented or athletic as the players just a decade or two later, they still discovered things that then became fundamental basketball. Naismith invented the game, but these men discovered it. I salute them.
@Rheumattica Today's athletes benefit from sports science. Improved nutrition, training methodology, and modern technology. Players in the 50's and 60's weren't paid much, so many worked second jobs in the offseason. Today's athletes train all year round to improve their skill and athleticism. Those old school players could have been just as athletic if they had access to the training techniques modern athletes have, but they didn't.
This is, by far, the most interesting nba/basketball video I have seen in a long time. The progression of the game is so interesting when you can see it in real time
Concerning the dribbling with one had in the 60s, the rules at the time said you had to keep your hand directly on top of the ball or it would be a carry. So doing a crossover was basically impossible.
I want them to bring that rule back so bad. I wanna see how many of today's players can "really" dribble instead of pretending that a scoop isn't a travel for 48 minutes of game time.
@@SizdothyxOr just Maybe the game had to Evolve… because that shit looked trash and actually. Look at how much players bodies move as they dribble now … it’s actually harder now. Those pivots and fast cuts are TAXING On the legs and stamina. Think about that 🤦🏾♂️😂😂
@@karithema9ician657now the game has devolved into and And1 mix tape and it's embarrassing. It was better back then. They actually had far more skill to dribble like that. Even if we go back to the early 2000s it was far better. Now players carry the ball with a straight up and down dribble. Luka carries the ball with every between the legs dribble basically. Takes far less skill and is cheating.
@@Sizdothyx No. That is a terrible idea. Ball handling became an art form and should remain that way. Maybe carrying should be called if the hand is right under the ball, also enforce the two steps after gathering the ball. I don't really want to watch games where players are awkwardly slapping the ball . Spin moves, cross overs, hesitation moves are gorgeous.
Well, rules did not allow for crossovers or euro-step, offensive contact was an offensive foul... While in 2018 hacking a defender was a defensive foul :D
@@futurehofer1564 I like the way he kicks his feet out and quickly pops the fader out of a face up. That was his bread and butter. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but that fadeaway is truly a Malone signature. You won't see anyone else shoot like that.
@@futurehofer1564 also like how far he'd lean back on his fadeaways. Like he was reclining in the air 😅 Watch this video to see more of his low post fades/turnarounds. th-cam.com/video/2edAvSLD5U8/w-d-xo.html
One thing, I think along with the 3points efficiency this era increased, not only the capability of players to blowout teams increased, but also the capability of coming back from a blowout. Just like the warriors against the mavs, portland and other teams, they have multiple games that they came back from a supposed 25 pt game blowouts. Makes it still watchable even being down 25-30 points.
It's simple mathematics really. If you're down 24pts, you will need 12 unanswered 2pt possessions to claw the gap, but you only need 8 unanswered 3pts to do the same.
I never thought of it like that but you right. Back in the 90s or 00s if a team was down 25 I'm turning my channel. Nowadays I'm sticking to the TV cuz that lead could be gone in minutes. Good point.
You re right, we will keep watching even if the other team was down by 30, this game 6 finals, i bet all my money on warriors, they were up like almost 20 less than a quarter and im still having heartattack
Wow! this was EPIC! I learned so much of the old school 90s games I watched as a kid. Most eloquent explanation of illegal defense ever. It all makes so much sense now.
I've been following Basketball since the 91/92 season and I must say that I've learned more about tactics in these 30 minutes than I did in 30 years. Amazing video, loved every second of it! 👍
To be fair about the dribbling, they were just as strict about palming and carrying as they were about traveling. The thing about traveling back then was that you couldn't lift or drag your pivot foot. Pivot foot? What's that? Anyway, palming was putting your hand on the side of the ball and carrying was a kind of traveling violation due to palming. Hard to explain. Dribbling with your offhand without palming is not easy.. Try it sometime. Watch "carrying violation 1976" to see what you couldn't get away with. As time went on, they relaxed the rules to where now, you can travel and palm the ball at will. Which makes the game easier.
I wouldn’t say the rule change made the game easier. Of course it’s more natural and free flowing the way you can hold and move with the ball now, but that also opens up new ways to play, which in turn for some is hard to defend against, and for others is hard to master.
@@HaHaha-vn4qk OK. I'll give you that. BUT, keeping your hand strictly on top of the ball and having limited mobility due to traveling rules makes you look "awkward." It's definitely harder to dribble that way. Get a ball and try to dribble with only your left hand as fast as you can to the other side of the court. You're not going to make it.
Loved this video. I loved the breakdowns and the showing of the plays. The illegal defense explanation was really well done. Seeing the differences and why each era was different is really helpful. Seeing the 50s through 70s was really interesting. I'm surprised by how much I liked the 70s style of basketball.
yeah same, like ive never had anything against any era and respect them all but the 70's was actually super fun to watch for me with nice pull up jumpers and nice passes for explosive rim play
Yeah I'm really surprised that a lot of people don't know the illegal rules in the 90's smh. That is there were so many post up plays and triangle offense really worked.
Most people do not want to see analysis non stop , we want debate . Even the new media on so many talk shows give hottakes about their era . Sports media became way more profitable with the debate style that's why fox and ESPN have many shows that do that .
I like to split the 1950s into two different eras. The latter half of decade saw more jumpshots and more layups. Especially as a new generation of players came into the league to phase out some inaugural players and as mentioned earlier about the shot clock's addition.
Beautiful vid. I love that u showcased the evolution of the game without completely disrespecting the past players. You showed the pros and cons of each era wonderfully and added the needed context as to why the game was played each way. The history of the game is to be respected for what it was and preserved for true fans and students of the game to pass down and learn from. Thank you for your work.
Wholeheartedly agree, most people respect everything between 1980 and now but there's so much more to the game! I get very angry when I see people point out the wierd ballhandling or silly shot selection of the 60s in an attempt to try discredit Wilt, West, Russell etc because they played then, without actually acknowledging how the game was played, I knew about the crazy fast pace, and that dribbling with your hand anywhere but directly above the ball was a carry but something I'd never realised is the foul calls, I'd heard Wilt talk about why he didn't push people like Shaq, or dunk on people like MJ and he said if he was that aggressive and unsportsman-like he would have been benched, I thought the lack of contact was about this same kind of respect the players had for each other but seeing how trigger happy those refs are really goes to show how different what players were ALLOWED to do was, and that is really what seperates eras.
@@danielmacpherson8487 no it isn't! The skill level was considerably lower in Wilt and Russell's era, the dominant bigs and guards were smaller, slower and weaker, they shot horribly, and there were very few players that had the athleticism of the late 70's to today! Jordan had legit 7 ft monsters to deal with at the rim that were quick on their feet, jumped very high and had outstanding lateral movement, but he was still climbing over the top and dunking on them without offensive fouling! There were no guards in that era that even dreamed of driving baseline and throwing down a one hander on player! Wilt is definitely in the same category with Shaq of overrated players that lie constantly to make themselves seem better than they were
Dominant bigs were smaller?????? Do you know how big wilt or Russell or Nate Thurmond or Walt Bellamy were?? The height was the same they just didn’t measure people with does back then.
@@deebofleebo6427 u literally took all the stereotypes that we were referring to and took all the context away and just said a bunch of incorrect regurgitated shit u heard on the internet. U don’t belong here. Go do some hw and get back to me. Ignorance in 2022 is lazy and not tolerated. There’s way too many platforms that disprove every single point u just attempted to Make. Find them. Learn something before u open your mouth again. Have a nice day.
@@Gurb-cr3wl foul calling? what you mean by that? You don't actually think people weren't fouled 'back in those days' right? Back when they yes did play more physical but also got fouled accordingly and mainly played more physical cause the game was situated around the rim and consisted of more one on one's. Come on bruv.
@@jsgr5382 his stats dipped after he started getting injured. Saying he's overrated as if he's someone who's talked about regularly among the greatest players ever, like wilt chamberlain for instance
One could make an case that the 95 Rockets were the perfect example of how modern spacing combined with a dominant center can be effective. Get the ball to Hakeem. If he’s doubled or tripled then you have 3 to 4 knock down 3 pt shooters. If you focus on defending the shooters then you leave Hakeem space to operate in the paint.
@@MistaTofMaine that doesn't disprove the fact that it wasn't modern spacing. Are you saying they had the ability to shoot more so they had the spacing but didn't? Because in that case we could say that about more teams before the 95 Rockets?
Love seeing the history of the game. I’m only 21 so I try to watch older games and get an idea of how the older NBA was like.. this video is invaluable to someone like me, great job!
@@ronm3945 no defense i guess you rather see nikkas getting punched in the stomach… and flopping whether you like it or not is more of the refs fault if it works no sense in not using it 🤷♂️
@@slxpvz7916 nope its not like that .your talking the exceptions..the fights..but defence was tight and points were contested not matador defence if u call ot that..well guess society is soft and sensitive these days reflected by the sports and soyboy fanbase..not fanbase really...as most you wannabe only watch highlights bugtthink u know all lmao
Great video! One of my big takeaways was the way players and coaches adjusted to the different rules of the eras. So interesting to see the evolution of the greatest game in the history of the world!
I'll always respect 50's basketball. This era is the building block for today's game. As mentioned in this video, one dribble then pull up jumper and the flashy passes made it into today's game. I made it through the whole video so I am a big basketball fan ☺️
I never understood it or understood why it was even a rule. I just know it stopped play at least 10 times a game and produced a shit ton of technicals.
Such high-quality content -- bravo! I think it's safe to say it's one of the best basketball videos I've ever seen. Thanks so much for uploading this on TH-cam. Massive props to you!
I'm not a big NBA fan, but I could tell this was going to be a good video. It was even better than that, with solid descriptions and great comparisons/contrasts. A worthwhile watch!
Enjoyed the video! Watched the '84, '85, and '87 Lakers-Celtics NBA finals a couple years ago for pandemic entertainment. There was a big difference between '85 and '87 in that using the three-point line was actually a strategy in '87. Certainly not like today but on a fast break, Michael Cooper would go to the three-point line instead of the basket. I think he made six in one game which was a huge amount.
I am not a fan of the 3, I can't stand to see guys pull up for that shot on a fast break, my mouth used to drop open when I first saw that, now it's nearly the norm, Dirk, and Embiid just launching away, way too much. I can't stand that shot.!!!
This is probably the best hoops video I’ve seen to date. That includes my old 80s 90s VHS’s, which to be fair were basically music videos. I though I’d just be nodding my head in agreement the whole time, but instead you had my eyelids peeled. Amazing job!
1960s actually does sound difficult 😂 you basically have to do every movement perfectly. And they complain about fouls now you literally got one for touching someone back then 😭
every possession would end in a whistle if today's players were held to that standard. while the game may have been more 'pure', I can see why they let up for the sake of flow and entertainment.
Excellent video. I think the only thing missing is the 1975-1976 ABA championship game. That would have revealed Doctor J's influence in the open court, going to the basket, and all-around skills. Even the crossovers and dribbling that was not seen in the clogged NBA paint finals of 1977. ( There is a clip on TH-cam of an ABA Doctor J crossing over his man at the 3 point line, taking 1 or two dribbles and then ramming It in over 7-2 ABA and NBA Hall of Famer centre Artis Gilmore). Remember, the ABA had the 3-point shot since 1967 and also recorded stats we take for granted today like blocks, steals, before the NBA did. The ABA set the tone with their more exciting free flow game that the NBA much later adopted through absorbing the 4 ABA teams and the talent like Doc, David Thompson and George Gervin.
Great work on this. I learned a lot and the whole video reeked of painstaking analysis and attention to detail with what was going on in every game you looked at. Amazing job
Great content thanks for taking the time to put it together. I'm from England and played high school basketball in the mid 90s. Finally, I know where and when my high school manager learnt his basketball plays, the 80s lol. The plays that you highlighted from this decade were our staples, it was fun to see where they were taken from.
You take Stockton away from that team and they're a .500 - 600 ball club. That guy did so many things well and so effortlessly, you don't notice it til he's gone
Finally a video about different eras of basketball without the creator throwing in their unwanted opinions about who's better or "how much harder" it used to be or is now. Thank you, and great video!
Excellent video! I didn’t start watching basketball religiously until 2015, so I don’t have much frame of reference when comparing the modern game to that of earlier decades. I do have one small gripe with this video, though. When you compared the 1963 finals to the 1977 finals, there was a 14 year gap between the two games highlighted. That’s the same gap between the 1998 and 2012 finals. In my opinion, this does not accurately reflect the changes in each decade because so little time passed between your selected years. If you were to make this video again, I might recommend you implement a minimum of 8 years and a maximum of 12 years between each game. Great video nonetheless. Thank you for putting this together!
I had a similar thought-- in particular about that same stretch. The league hadn't yet completely lost it's 1950s vibe by 1963, but by 1966, with most of the old guard retired, it had entered a new more recognizably "modern" phase that lasted until the mid-1970s. After the ABA folded in 1976, the NBA had begun another new phase. By the way, I've been watching basketball since the 1960s.
I felt this in terms of the games picked as well the video definitelty shows a look at the game styles of course but with the variety of teams and tactics I would be curoius to know if there were teams that show the 3 ball more or used different types of plays compared to what was showed
While ball handling is obviously “better” nowadays, you have to realize that players carry the ball all the time now, in the 60s if they dribbled/ crossed over like they do now it would’ve been called a carry
Agreed, but even then they looked uncomfortable dribbling within their rules. You can still switch hands without doing a crossover, but they didn't. You don't even need to do this "better", because It is objectively better today.
@@noname-jd2vo yeah I’m not saying players aren’t better today because they are, just that if the rules were called like that nowadays players today would have a hard time adjusting to not dribbling like they do now, same with traveling, it’s basically never called
@@Rickypaleo1776 really..have you seen maravich handle the ball..without the need to be help having to carry or travel.you old historian you lmao...i guarantee you half the dudes today wont look half as good without the help of the lax rules..lmao.
I've watched this video dozens of times now. Your explanation of illegal defense baiting by the Jazz in 1998 is spot on. I grew up in Utah and watched as many Jazz games as I could - which was all of them in 1997 and 1998. However, I was a kid, and I didn't realize at the time just how repetitive and boring their offensive sequences were. I've learned a lot from this video, and I keep pointing my friends and family to it to explain what actually happened in those days. I seriously think this is one of the best NBA history products I've ever seen. It might even be THE best.
If you think this is the best. Then you simply need to watch other content creators out there. While there is some point to this video. It doesn't tell the whole story. Watching 1 game from every decade can be very misleading.
It is not surprising that newer generations become "better" at the game. They can learn from the older generations... or at least take inspiration from older generations even if some rules are changed. Basketball players becomes "better" as history goes on, should be something that is celebrated, because that means the sport is growing.
Exactly, it’s a good thing that should happen and those happen in all sports. I never got why people got so offended by the fact players today are simply better than back then.
@@roverjohnson6854 because it’s not them better just have more skills to run with give older eras the same techniques that the new players have now would determine whose better however the correct term are the newer players have more options
@@JohnDoe-vf3qo which means they are more skilled which also means that they are better not saying that the older era couldn’t learn how to play like the current era
@@Duqsos no it just means they had more to choose firing any of the older era people in the game to play now and they will dominate because of the more options. To determine better especially between eras is to keep it equal. Give the 60s less people on the court and a 3 point line and the ideas from the later eras and you will get a similar result of now.
A masterpiece! Keep up the good work, I always look forward to your breakdowns. Your videos explain the game way better than anything I have ever seen on television. Did seeing that pistol action in the 2022 game and the random 1960s game you picked surprise you?
My only criticism is he should’ve used 2015 Warriors/Cavs instead 2012 of Heat/Thunder, but he wanted to find a way to give Lebron his shine in this video. After 2015, as evident with the Al Horford example, everyone started jacking 3’s.
@@NT-or9wh I think he picked the game from 2012 to show how the 2010's were the transition from the 90s/00s way of playing to the way the game is played today.
Awesome video! I almost forgot about how they tried to outlaw parts of the zone, but that just made coaches even more creative and the players even smarter. I loved 90s basketball.
Great breakdown and information. Crazy how the game we all love, basketball, has evolved over the decades. I starred following the game back in 1978, Seattle SuperSonics vs Washington Bullets and been a fan since. This video break down was respectfully done. Thanks for your hard work and sharing with us.
The 5-17 Bob Hopkins Sonics before Lenny Wilkins took over?! What a truly amazing year, and great year to catch NBA fever! Marvin Webster in '78, then Jack Sikma in '79!
@@monstrousbytommywalker3700 Yes indeed! That 1978 and 79 squad was special. Lenny Wilkins did a fantastic coaching job. I hate how that 78 and 79 Sonics squad never gets mentioned among the Championship teams, even though that 78 squad didn't win the title but that 79 squad is so overlooked! It is a shame.
@@kennethrobinson6738 No marquee names at the national level. I watched the Lakers for Kareem and later Magic, the Celtics for Bird and the Bulls for Michael. The rest of these teams would grow on me through familiarity over time.
Great video man! One thing about the 70’s game I noticed. The Trail Blazers were legendary for being ahead of their time with ball movement on offense. Also Doug Collins was famous, and an outlier, for being a high motor all hustle guy. Most 70’s games would have looked a lot different. Also loo into how loose officials have become with palming in terms of improved ball handling. It was fascinating to see all those pull up bombs from the very early games. How about another one highlighting non-descript games between mediocre teas, to compare to these? They could be good games, just games with no significance played by teams without much motivation. That would be awesome.
Warriors, Celtics, Knicks, Lakers were all very good with ball movement in the 70's. Wilt, by the early 70's, was playing somewhat like Walton would a few years later, with a greater emphasis on passing and defense.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the "pick n roll." From at least the 70s, at all levels of basketball, it has been a dominating play, and remains almost unstoppable today.
In 1990, teams were taking 7 threes a game avg 106ppg. Today the league avg is about 5x that number and they avg 110ppg! The three was considered a gimmick in the 80's, Bill Fitch made it a point to have Bird avoid shooting the 3p
That's correct, Deboo. Bird shot a lot of 3 pointers his rookie year. Fitch made him stop. I think part of the reason that the 3 was rarely used at the time was nobody was accustomed to shooting it. It didn't exits in high school or college. Most players had to learn it at the NBA level from scratch.
@@poocrayon4588 The three itself was fine until the 2005 rule changes. It was hard to just fire up 3 pointers all day with tired legs. Taking the physicality out of the game changed everything.
One of the best analytics and discussion about the different eras I've ever seen. Comprehensive and detailed. Anyone who thinks Lebron or even new unproven players like a Jalen Green couldn't play in earlier eras is ludicrous. They would think they were evil wizards with the talent and athleticism todays players possess. Very very very well done.
You do realize that things like the average level of athleticism, close out speed (from defenders to shooters), and help defense play a big role in why that type of shot wouldn't be regularly effective in today's game right? Stop letting nostalgia cloud your judgement my friend.
@@jesseaustin4089 With hookshots you don't have to set with both hands it's faster than you think Watch how Meadowlark did it when he tried to do it fast. Some of his shots were slow to be funny or for drama etc when he needed to do it with speed he could. Athletes have not evolved the rules evolved and shoes changed. As humans it takes atleast thousands of yrs to see legit evolution.
@@jesseaustin4089 Who knows even what the rules are to that game anymore , they change and soften them so often like people change sexes . Can you still do pump fakes or is that illegal. Who gives a shit really. Bomb a 3 against mentally soft players with better speed
Excellent idea. However, hard to apply from two teams in one game, a blanket skills assessment of an entire league in a given decade. I love the thought and attempt. Great work!
Looking at this video, you start to appreciate more every era. And realize why players play the way they play to a certain extent. The rule changes really dictate the evolution of the game.
The rule changes certainly had an impact, but I'm struck by how much simple changes in strategy/philosophy really altered the game. I grew up watching the NBA in the 90s, and even then, I always wondered why players would turn down open threes. Like the clip from the 98 finals, I don't care what era it was, Stockton should've taken that shot.
*Wonderful to watch! It's the kind of stuff you always want to know, but it would be too much to ask. Unless we do it ourselves and it's too much work! I really REALLY appreciate your work and this video!*
Dude this video was great! I'm just getting into NBA and this helped me learn so much about the evolution of the league, rules, players, etc. which is my favorite part about sports. Keep it up, I'm gonna check out the rest of your videos now.
Amazing video! I listen to a lot of nba player rankings and seeing what the game was actually like throughout the eras is super helpful. Thanks for making this!
I would love to see this made into series, where you look at a larger portion of games from each decade. Obviously the 50's would be more of a challenge to find games.
Although decades form a natural timeframe, I think some jumps are a bit too large. 1963 to 1977 we skip a period where NBA has a competitor league in ABA yet has a historically stacked center position, 1985 to 1998 we skip the early 90s which is rather different from the late 90s featuring peak Hakeem, MJ, Barkley and offensive efficiency is still high league wide. I would have liked adding sth like the 1972 Lakers-Bucks and the 1993 Bulls-Suns finals. That said, absolutely great video!
Completely agree, great video, massive props to OP, overall really wonderful work done esp keeping things level headed unbiased among eras. Also great jumping off point for those looking to understand the history of the game more. However there were huge periods of NBA history passed over in the jumps that really contextualize the changes of the game.
Great video. Eras need to be factored in more when comparing the greats. We like to compare stats and championships but It makes a huge difference if you were scoring against double teams or if there was illegal defense or how the floor was spaced.
Man this video makes me respect Kobe even more cause the rules were seriously changing around his reign and like you pointed out he didn't have the shooting help to supplement his drives like lebron did and still made it work before Detroit won one....also you should have done the Nba salaries during each take to see if a guy really had to get that plumber job while playing in the league lol
Credit where it's due. A brilliant analysis and answers so many questions I had growing up playing ball in the UK and watching the NBA during the 90s. You've also given me some brilliant insights into how I can change the more holistic elements of my coaching. Demystifying certain elements and getting new young players into the game itself by Demystifying what they see in TV. Thank You!
Excellent video!!! If only we could have 3 games per decade, I know it's too much watching and editing, maybe impossible, but it would created a broader perspective, taking a game at the start, mid and end of every decade, also maybe choose teams with the different game styles in the same era, diffensive minded teams vs offensive minded teams, maybe the 80's pistons would have made it to the video. Keep the good work sir!!!
great video - really nice demonstration of the evolving arms race of skills, spacing, and schemes. Kobe learned from MJ, but so did the defenses and they were ready when illegal defense was legislated away.
Jordan and early Kobe (Shaq era) played in the most difficult era for perimeter players. There wasn't the spacing there is today from all the 3's, no 3 second shot block in the Jordan era so centers camped near the hoop, handchecking made it more difficult to get around a defensive player, etc. In 2004/05 first season without hand checking and some other rule changes, the perimeter players instantly became the top players in the league.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson these are good facts. I do think we should point out though that handchecking was banned by the 80's, becoming increasingly enforced in the 90's before being strictly forbidden as you pointed out in 2005. The rise of perimeter players shouldn't devolve totally on final abolishment of 'hand-checking' in 2005, but also a suite of changes including legalizing zone defense in 2002 and the gradual rise of 3PA spreading the floor thereby opening those driving lanes.
@@sesquipedalian6278 80's ban did nothing. There was another rule change in mid 90's which did lead to 'elbow checking' but that enforcement seemed to disappear as the 90s' went along. The game slowed down and got more physical from around 95-2004. They legalized zone defensive but also implemented a defensive 3 second rule which made zone defense difficult which is why you saw more of a semi zone defense played.
@@sesquipedalian6278 Removal of the handchecking didn't make the game a 3pt shooting league but if you want to see the impact it had immediately, look all but one MVP not including Jordan won between 1990-2004 was a post player - Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson, Duncan, KG, Barkely. From 2005 and after, there wouldn't be any post player to win MVP until Giannis 2019 and I wouldn't call him post player -- he scores mostly from dribbling form the perimeter to the hoop. Want more evidence? the Increase in offensive rating (pts per possession) and effective fg% were the biggest single season increases on record (not including the 1998/99 lock out year). Want more evidence? In 2003/04, only one player scored over 24.2pts and it was McGrady around 28pts. In 2004/05, it was about 7 players over 24.2pts and tops was over 30. In 2005/06, it was 11 players with 3 of them over 31pts and tops was 35pts. In fact, 2005/06 the top 13 scorers were all perimeter players. The game changed instantly after removing handchecking and quickly transitioned from post dominated to perimeter dominated. The 3's would slowly rise throughout the 2000's but it would start shooting up around 2012.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson The take I got from this video is actually the opposite, with respect to Jordan. You might have handchecking in the 90s, but illegal defense really opened up the mid-range for MJ to dominate because there was nothing the opponents could do other than let him play iso. According to the video, it was Kobe who got the worst of it. There was no illegal offense, he couldn't play iso, and that was before the 3-pt revolution so they didn't have consistent shooters to punish that either. That seems to be the worst case scenario to me.
As usual an amazing video. I feel like your videos make me love the sport more. Watching the playoffs I couldn’t help but see your animations on the court helping me understand the motions better. It really does help.
I wouldn't call the guys in the 60's plumbers and firemen. I've watched games before this and the pace is unreal. Loong at average scoring is one thing but when you take into account the shot percentages on these fast breaks, often forced in a 1 on 2 or 2 on 3 in the defenders favor instead of slowing down the ball and transitioning into half court offense, and immediately move into fast break in the other direction, the pace was even faster than the game scores lead you to believe. These guys had to be real cross country athletes and it must have been exhausting. Its no wonder shooting percentages were so low. Everyone was burnt out. It also explains the insane rebounding numbers of big men who could get up and down the court like Wilt and Bill. Guys back then were incredible athletes. They were just built in a different way than they are today. In a similar manner, guys in the 80s/90s were also built in a different way. They were bulkier which helped them with the more physical style of play that was often focused around posting up. It also made them more durable and less prone to injury. Meanwhile today, players have more lean builds, built for speed. They're (generally) faster and get beter looks through outpacing their defender or coming off screens than backing them down. However, in all my life watching basketball I have never seen injuries be as big of an issue as they are today. There are so many star players missing so many games because of injuries, I can't help but think it's because of the way they are built. Either way, all of these guys are world-class athletes in my book. They were just built for the game in their era, and the game has changed so much over the years.
It's not the way they are built. It's the way they play. They play with a lot of hard cuts and momentum changes. Those are what damage your knees and ankles more than anything especially when done at awkward angles. You can run up and down the court all day. What you can't do is do what Ja morant does all day.
@@Christopher._M These guys also grow up playing an absolute ton of basketball so their bodies have more wear and tear before they even get to the league.
Bro what you talking about build different? They all just the same, they just play different. We all just the same people bro lol. Tf this guy talking about.
The biggest challenge for NBA teams today is to figure out how to effectively defend the 3 point shot. When someone does we will see an upset like the 2004 finals.
They should really just move the 3 pt line back a foot or two at this point. 3 pointers have oversaturated the game and made it so one dimensional, but you can't even blame the players for taking them when the risk reward factor is so in favor of taking the three point shot with how good shooting has gotten these days.
It will eventually be solved. Players are getting bigger now and they’re also agile. It will become easier to switch which I think would be a 3-ball killer.
that’s literally the beauty of todays game, offense has gotten so deep and players so versatile, that defenses will have to weigh out what shots they’re willing to live with. if im a top defensive team with a league average offensive rating, kinda like the lakers then im really just trying to find the open three. or actions that free up the post luring in the defensive help and kicking it out. and vice versa so on and so forth. these variables didn’t exist a couple decades ago and everything evolves. me personally it’s a joy to watch the modern game.
This video was great Dont get to see many real breakdowns of basketball across the decades Showing the true difference in the game And explaining everything with context of the times
This video supports a perspective of progressive strategic development in response to innate problems. Clogged paint limits offense, spaced floor opens the paint, better shooters solve the problem of sagging defenses, longer, more mobile wings address the problem of corner camping....etc. The game is a chess match in which defensive schemes, offensive skill sets and rule adjustments continually fine tune the balance and quality of play. Variable that were not discussed involve broader context - the international explosion of the player pool, improvements in fitness and skills training, and the evolution of new archetypes (for example, the mobile, two way, very long wing (Kawhi, KD), the stretch big (Horford's evolution was explained), and the extinction of the hook shooting, ass backing dinosaur post up are themes of changing Bball archetypes. Any old head who watches this and still slobbers about the old guys' superiority.....well....you can't fix stupid.
@@philwilson609 I’m 20, and certain things about the present era suck ass, compared to the 00’s. Specifically defense and grit, it’s just discouraged to play up against your man.
Great job on this!! Especially glad you included the 77 Blazers. I’m no NBA historian by any stretch but that team was probably the best of that decade and I’m saying that as a Laker fan who cheered on their 71-72 team to a 69-13 record, a 33-game win streak and a title that season. Walton was unbelievable in those playoffs. That team had it all and was totally unselfish.
The three pointer changed the game for sure. It took decades though for teams to take full advantage turning the game into a three point shooting contest
Thank you very much for making such a great production I really enjoyed it and it's very informative very educational I definitely can tell you put a lot of time and hard work into this it is definitely refreshing to find videos like this
When I saw the title the first thing that came to mind was small sample size. I'm glad to see this video was much more than that. What makes this video truly great is the presentation of the details of basketball strategy within the games to make larger overall points about each era. A very educational video, and very well produced.
You can see the huge impact that banning the handcheck had going into the 2004/05 season. Year before, it was dominated by big men but then from 2004/05, the top players all played on the perimeter mostly G to SF or a perimeter PF like Dirk. 2009 they allowed gather step plus 2 steps which basically gave players an additional 2 steps.
Look at you young man! You got all the science and everything. Keep making videos young man! You gon make it big one day! The science for left hand 🫲 made me know you the truth out here w these videos! Bless you my bro. Bless you!
I like the idea for the video, but one game from one decade is such a small sample selection that the analysis will be skewed no matter what. You should make this into a series, examine each decade against the modern game by using at least 1 game from every year of that decade. It will be more work no doubt, but you'll end up with more accurate results and better series of videos. Just a suggestion.
@@justinlevy274 that’s nice to know. However such evolution doesn’t just fall from the sky so it’d be interesting to see how the game changed slightly year by year to feel the nuance
@@joshuachang5210 It doesnt really change like that, it tends to come suddenly. The Nash Suns teams, the 2010s spurs team etc. If you study a couple of those landmark teams youll see the innovations. Everyone just copies them after they innovate.
@@justinlevy274 fair enough but those innovative teams can come within the same decade, and even if there’s only one major change there’s still gonna be the difference between before and after.
@@joshuachang5210 I think the point of the video though is that you can compare two very good teams from that era and their play style. That play style was probably evolving in the years before that and those teams likely copied it for their team. If you do a video showing the most innovative teams each decade you don't get a sense of the typical team or what was winning during that era. But doing videos about different eras is almost always interesting.
Love your channel hoopvision. I was hoping you could take a look at some of the euroleagues best offenses and defenses as well. I'm willing to bet theyre going to be very informative
The thing with ballhandling in the 70s is that the rules were different if you took kd and time traveled him to the 70s he’d get called for a carry every possesion those 70s players literally couldn’t be as good of dribblers as the players today allen iverson really changed the game with ballhandling and what refs would call Carry
You’re literally talking about allowing POOR ball handling! Early years, you had to move your body to protect the ball, now you can defy gravity with all types of carrying. Same thing with traveling, easy to follow rules to start, perverted to accommodate those who need an edge.
@Jose-st3fq for the most part I agree with you , at times it does border on the ridiculous when the refs let the players get away with too much , there are times when a player literally tucks the ball takes 3 or 4 steps like that are going for a first down but other than that I agree
this exactly. Some trends left out here by decade 1960s: Wilt Chamberlain's post offense 1970s: Early jump shooters (Oscar Robertson, Jerry West etc); Pistol Pete (the 76ers game showcased ABA style basketball as the leagues had just merged) 1980s: nothing missing here - 1985 was the best year to capture. 1990s: Also nothing missing here - Iso ball was iso ball for MJ as well as the host of superstar players (Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Barkley, Clyde Drexler) 2000s: Playing around power forwards (Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett); post-early 2000s rule changes; run'n'gun Suns 2010s: The impact of Steph Curry; failed superteams; emergence of the scoring guard (Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Ja Morant) 2020s: Versatile bigs (Embiid, Giannis, Jokic), but this is just expanding on versatility mentioned in this video - if everyone is versatile, of course bigs are going to dominate on virtue of their size.
what about watching a mediocre game from each decade? like a warriors/clippers duel in the 90s, or a knicks game with hornacek coaching and andrea bargnani on the floor
more like we find out that the 60s and earlier were full of trash players who wouldn't even get a scouting report in today's NBA. Bill Russel probably won't even get drafted if he can only play defense.
@@vanguardas9927 You are a goof. Yes, basketball in the 60s was underdeveloped. But, Russell was an incredible athlete and defender that would have stood out in any era; the same as Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, and Wilt Chamberlain. Watch on video comparing Wilt in his Philly days to other athletes and then remember that Russell battled Wilt to a standstill.
@@michaelcarrig627 If Giannis played in a bum ass league, he would also be able to do what Wilt did...probably better since Wilt can't shoot for shit even FTs
@@vanguardas9927 Yes, Giannis would have dominated like Wilt. Doesn't change the fact that Wilt was an all world athlete who was as fast as Lebron and with a 40 vertical. These guys would have succeeded in any era, as they would have the same training methods. Your arguments are dumb as fuck. If you can bring them into the future, then they have all the benefits of living in the future.
Loved this video. Wish you have dived a little more into the Dantoni Suns teams that mixed both pick and roll and off the ball screens along with the 7 seconds or less. That offense became the foundation to what we see today.
Genius concept for a video. Great work man!
Love your video on the finals mvp
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Goat sees goat
Bro can u promote this man, he's under the radar rn
Trap sax?... 🙂
... Sad trombone ☹️
Horford in his first 7 years in the NBA took a grand total of 29 three-point shots, and the next 7 years took over 1300 three-point shots. That's mind blowing.
Even crazier is that in 2015 he took only 36 threes and the next season he took 259 of them. To me that's one of the best examples of Stephen Curry effect
And he’s the goat
Also shows you that the good and great players of each era most of the time would have been able to adapt to the game, regardless of how drastic. Had Horford retired after those first 7 would anyone say that 510 threes made from him in his next 7 years was possible? No
@@Nickloss961 facts, unfortunately the nba is shell of what it used to be.
That's nuts
Really love the Al Horford transformation. I’ve always argued players like Hakeem would’ve developed a 3-pt shot if he played in this era. Good players always find a way to adapt.
Olajuwon had a 3p shot, he had range out to 22-23 ft! He was just much more valuable in the paint
BTW, Horford made 500 more threes but missed 1,359 more threes, which is horse manure
I think Ewing would have been a better player now because he had such a good shot.
@@analcommando1124 Ewing was a freaking monster dude, he'll be great in any era and would keep teams including his own from jacking up threes
@@analcommando1124 Yes, Ewing definitely would’ve developed a 3pt shot. Shaq is the one big that I can’t see developing.
No wonder the 90’s had the most dominant bigs. Those rules really helped them when it came to one on one sequences
Exactly
People forget ISO ball also favoured dominants bigs, not just perimeter players
@@rafikz77 it also favored Jordan. I mean if MJ was on that 2004 team with the Lakers against the Pistons he would have the same result as Kobe for sure.
They got easy shots in todays game. No defense and wide open shots
No it didnt you 1d1ot
@@rafikz77exactly nothing troll
This video is perfect example of why I continue to say it’s extremely hard to compare players from each era
It's not hard. This generation is the best , the next will be better and so on. It's like that in every sport for every era. Evolution doesn't stop. And yes having better equipment and having more knowledge of the sport is part of the evolution process. It's a factor we need to accept. Every era has better equipment then the previous. People's nostalgia and emotion take over and you have clowns that are convinced MJ's era was better then today because they're Insecure about their idol being the goat so they need to hype up an entire era. Basketball is the only sport that doesn't publicly admit it's far better now and it's probably the sport that has improved the most after hockey to which btw Wayne Gretzky said publicly he wouldn't even make today's NHL cause it's too big, fast and skilled. Imagine that.
@@jsgr5382 This generation is the most talented but you need to see the other side of that to understand why is it’s the most talented. It’s because of the environment and everything players have access to growing up in life and once they get to the league. Guys in the 60’s,70’s and 80’s had to work multiple jobs on low salary, wear converses, play without a three point line, have extremely limited knowledge to the extent of which we know medical info now. Basketball training wasn’t the same back then and the game was still relatively new so people were still understanding the game and trying to figure it out. Skill wise and strategy wise the game was still developing and not to mention the impact of technology for film and we’ll almost everything in world we live in today. And not to mention how many rules have changed throughout the years. My point is people never bring up perspective and context when comparing eras. Nobody was able to grow up the same way from back then compared to now. Born in 1975 and playing in the league 20 years later is way different than being born in 1995 and playing 20 years later. That’s why no matter how much people debate it will always extremely difficult to compare eras
@@bradygagne6992 sounds like you’re making a ton of excuses for previous eras
@@kiLLAGlock94 nope no excuses just reality. Our society has it way better today. The amount of access we have today because of the advancements in our life is awesome. Me trying to provide context of how it’s different isn’t excuses
Very well said
I really admire those men from the 50s and 60s. While they were not nearly as talented or athletic as the players just a decade or two later, they still discovered things that then became fundamental basketball. Naismith invented the game, but these men discovered it. I salute them.
fantastic no look passes.
@Rheumattica No, they were not. I am not a kid. And what does being bright have to do with anything?
@Rheumattica Today's athletes benefit from sports science. Improved nutrition, training methodology, and modern technology. Players in the 50's and 60's weren't paid much, so many worked second jobs in the offseason. Today's athletes train all year round to improve their skill and athleticism. Those old school players could have been just as athletic if they had access to the training techniques modern athletes have, but they didn't.
@Rheumattica You're a clown.
@Rheumattica what a terrible and substance-less comeback
This is, by far, the most interesting nba/basketball video I have seen in a long time. The progression of the game is so interesting when you can see it in real time
Concerning the dribbling with one had in the 60s, the rules at the time said you had to keep your hand directly on top of the ball or it would be a carry. So doing a crossover was basically impossible.
I want them to bring that rule back so bad. I wanna see how many of today's players can "really" dribble instead of pretending that a scoop isn't a travel for 48 minutes of game time.
@@SizdothyxOr just Maybe the game had to Evolve… because that shit looked trash and actually. Look at how much players bodies move as they dribble now … it’s actually harder now. Those pivots and fast cuts are TAXING On the legs and stamina. Think about that 🤦🏾♂️😂😂
@@karithema9ician657now the game has devolved into and And1 mix tape and it's embarrassing. It was better back then. They actually had far more skill to dribble like that. Even if we go back to the early 2000s it was far better. Now players carry the ball with a straight up and down dribble. Luka carries the ball with every between the legs dribble basically. Takes far less skill and is cheating.
But the author doesn't know that. He is describing whole eras watching bits and pieces of one game from each. And people here, call it genius.
@@Sizdothyx No. That is a terrible idea. Ball handling became an art form and should remain that way. Maybe carrying should be called if the hand is right under the ball, also enforce the two steps after gathering the ball. I don't really want to watch games where players are awkwardly slapping the ball . Spin moves, cross overs, hesitation moves are gorgeous.
The wildest part of the first game was sometimes it looked like there was more than 10 guys on the court. It was pretty chaotic
- chaotic? More like clogged. That's why they played against Plumbers and firemen.
@@jlui21 different eras man can’t blame them, half the techniques and moves haven’t even been invented yet
@@jlui21 Idiotic Small Brain Comment
@@reidprbl8561 half? I’d say most
Well, rules did not allow for crossovers or euro-step, offensive contact was an offensive foul... While in 2018 hacking a defender was a defensive foul :D
Those Jordan and Malone fadeaways are a thing of beauty.
Malone's were kinda ugly, looks like he had like a hitch on his jumper
MJ was clean as hell
@@futurehofer1564 I like the way he kicks his feet out and quickly pops the fader out of a face up. That was his bread and butter. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but that fadeaway is truly a Malone signature. You won't see anyone else shoot like that.
@@futurehofer1564 also like how far he'd lean back on his fadeaways. Like he was reclining in the air 😅
Watch this video to see more of his low post fades/turnarounds.
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Nothing as clean as Dirks fade 🥶
Keep going back. Wilts was unguardable.
One thing, I think along with the 3points efficiency this era increased, not only the capability of players to blowout teams increased, but also the capability of coming back from a blowout. Just like the warriors against the mavs, portland and other teams, they have multiple games that they came back from a supposed 25 pt game blowouts. Makes it still watchable even being down 25-30 points.
It's simple mathematics really. If you're down 24pts, you will need 12 unanswered 2pt possessions to claw the gap, but you only need 8 unanswered 3pts to do the same.
I never thought of it like that but you right. Back in the 90s or 00s if a team was down 25 I'm turning my channel. Nowadays I'm sticking to the TV cuz that lead could be gone in minutes. Good point.
You re right, we will keep watching even if the other team was down by 30, this game 6 finals, i bet all my money on warriors, they were up like almost 20 less than a quarter and im still having heartattack
Whch, of course, never happened before the 3-point shot. Oh, wait minute ...
@@mja91352 refs have been fixing games for a while
Wow! this was EPIC! I learned so much of the old school 90s games I watched as a kid. Most eloquent explanation of illegal defense ever. It all makes so much sense now.
Clueless
90,s defence = cookie defence
This video is proof the 90s fucking sucked
@shanese8471 i dont teach stupid, stupid
@@sunumonidas9966 spelled 2010s and 2020s wrong kid
I've been following Basketball since the 91/92 season and I must say that I've learned more about tactics in these 30 minutes than I did in 30 years. Amazing video, loved every second of it! 👍
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Dude, I said the same thing! I watched since early 90s and now all those illegal defense calls and ridiculous iso offenses make more sense.
Agreed!
@@bigdavido82 I watched basketball back then and I don’t miss
Hate isoball
To be fair about the dribbling, they were just as strict about palming and carrying as they were about traveling. The thing about traveling back then was that you couldn't lift or drag your pivot foot. Pivot foot? What's that? Anyway, palming was putting your hand on the side of the ball and carrying was a kind of traveling violation due to palming. Hard to explain. Dribbling with your offhand without palming is not easy.. Try it sometime. Watch "carrying violation 1976" to see what you couldn't get away with. As time went on, they relaxed the rules to where now, you can travel and palm the ball at will. Which makes the game easier.
I wouldn’t say the rule change made the game easier. Of course it’s more natural and free flowing the way you can hold and move with the ball now, but that also opens up new ways to play, which in turn for some is hard to defend against, and for others is hard to master.
@@HaHaha-vn4qk OK. I'll give you that. BUT, keeping your hand strictly on top of the ball and having limited mobility due to traveling rules makes you look "awkward." It's definitely harder to dribble that way. Get a ball and try to dribble with only your left hand as fast as you can to the other side of the court. You're not going to make it.
I disagree. I think they are just more akward as dribblers back then because they didn’t emphasize the technique as much.
@@davidwinston8122 The "technique" was illegal, ffs.
@@davidwinston8122 Watch "carrying violation 1976" Over time, they gradually relaxed the palming rules. Or just didn't enforce them.
Loved this video. I loved the breakdowns and the showing of the plays. The illegal defense explanation was really well done. Seeing the differences and why each era was different is really helpful. Seeing the 50s through 70s was really interesting. I'm surprised by how much I liked the 70s style of basketball.
yeah same, like ive never had anything against any era and respect them all but the 70's was actually super fun to watch for me with nice pull up jumpers and nice passes for explosive rim play
Yeah I'm really surprised that a lot of people don't know the illegal rules in the 90's smh. That is there were so many post up plays and triangle offense really worked.
@@dobz746 m0ron
I've watched, played, and coached basketball for a long time. This video is extremely well done!
Great breakdown. I wish the sports networks would focus on this content instead of hot takes. Good stuff 👍🏾
It really reiterates how unclogged todays paint is and how many wide open threes you see.
Most people do not want to see analysis non stop , we want debate . Even the new media on so many talk shows give hottakes about their era . Sports media became way more profitable with the debate style that's why fox and ESPN have many shows that do that .
@@ajajala5081 yeah this stuff is like if you have time to sit down and listen. Usually people don't want deep analysis or deep dives, they don't care
That was literally one of the best half hours I’ve ever watched on TH-cam! Amazing!
Easily one of the most comprehensive videos of how the NBA has changed through the years. Appreciate your time and effort
I like to split the 1950s into two different eras. The latter half of decade saw more jumpshots and more layups. Especially as a new generation of players came into the league to phase out some inaugural players and as mentioned earlier about the shot clock's addition.
Beautiful vid. I love that u showcased the evolution of the game without completely disrespecting the past players. You showed the pros and cons of each era wonderfully and added the needed context as to why the game was played each way. The history of the game is to be respected for what it was and preserved for true fans and students of the game to pass down and learn from. Thank you for your work.
Wholeheartedly agree, most people respect everything between 1980 and now but there's so much more to the game!
I get very angry when I see people point out the wierd ballhandling or silly shot selection of the 60s in an attempt to try discredit Wilt, West, Russell etc because they played then, without actually acknowledging how the game was played, I knew about the crazy fast pace, and that dribbling with your hand anywhere but directly above the ball was a carry but something I'd never realised is the foul calls, I'd heard Wilt talk about why he didn't push people like Shaq, or dunk on people like MJ and he said if he was that aggressive and unsportsman-like he would have been benched, I thought the lack of contact was about this same kind of respect the players had for each other but seeing how trigger happy those refs are really goes to show how different what players were ALLOWED to do was, and that is really what seperates eras.
@@danielmacpherson8487 no it isn't! The skill level was considerably lower in Wilt and Russell's era, the dominant bigs and guards were smaller, slower and weaker, they shot horribly, and there were very few players that had the athleticism of the late 70's to today! Jordan had legit 7 ft monsters to deal with at the rim that were quick on their feet, jumped very high and had outstanding lateral movement, but he was still climbing over the top and dunking on them without offensive fouling! There were no guards in that era that even dreamed of driving baseline and throwing down a one hander on player! Wilt is definitely in the same category with Shaq of overrated players that lie constantly to make themselves seem better than they were
Dominant bigs were smaller?????? Do you know how big wilt or Russell or Nate Thurmond or Walt Bellamy were?? The height was the same they just didn’t measure people with does back then.
*shoes lol
@@deebofleebo6427 u literally took all the stereotypes that we were referring to and took all the context away and just said a bunch of incorrect regurgitated shit u heard on the internet. U don’t belong here. Go do some hw and get back to me. Ignorance in 2022 is lazy and not tolerated. There’s way too many platforms that disprove every single point u just attempted to
Make. Find them. Learn something before u open your mouth again. Have a nice day.
This should be required viewing for every basketball fan. This is phenomenal.
not as phenomenal because he didn't read any old rules and had his biases so made idiotic statements
@@Gurb-cr3wllike what?
@@Gurb-cr3wl yeah like what? The only thing he didn't mention were dribbling violations for the 60's the rest is very good
@@dragonslayer6912 nope dribbling, cupping, foul calling everything
@@Gurb-cr3wl foul calling? what you mean by that? You don't actually think people weren't fouled 'back in those days' right? Back when they yes did play more physical but also got fouled accordingly and mainly played more physical cause the game was situated around the rim and consisted of more one on one's. Come on bruv.
People forget just how good, Bill Walton really was. Dude was just different.
Shame his son was nowhere near as good
He was so overrated. NBA merger proved this
@@jsgr5382 he won his title after the merger
@@KnoxWheelerJr He never avg 20 points in a season. Was always hurt. His stats dipped a bit after the merger and his injuries. Overrated
@@jsgr5382 his stats dipped after he started getting injured. Saying he's overrated as if he's someone who's talked about regularly among the greatest players ever, like wilt chamberlain for instance
Implementing the ABA is prolly why the game changed so immensely from the 60 to the 70s. Would love a review of one of their games
Agreed the 60s to the 70s was definitely the biggest change
This!
One could make an case that the 95 Rockets were the perfect example of how modern spacing combined with a dominant center can be effective. Get the ball to Hakeem. If he’s doubled or tripled then you have 3 to 4 knock down 3 pt shooters. If you focus on defending the shooters then you leave Hakeem space to operate in the paint.
Idk if I'd say modern spacing, they shot about 21 3s a game, this season teams shoot 35 on average. More like spacing from 10 years ago
@@christophergooding9820 true but Hakeem was so good they didn't need to shoot that many 3s.
Exactly! Very underrated team!
@@MistaTofMaine that doesn't disprove the fact that it wasn't modern spacing. Are you saying they had the ability to shoot more so they had the spacing but didn't? Because in that case we could say that about more teams before the 95 Rockets?
Hakeem top4-5 GOAT for me!
I can’t imagine how much work was put into this. Thank you for an incredible video!
Love seeing the history of the game. I’m only 21 so I try to watch older games and get an idea of how the older NBA was like.. this video is invaluable to someone like me, great job!
Watching players pre 2005 pass up on open 3s makes me so mad
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@@mittendemon4493 watching todays players flop travel and play no defence is utter nonsense
@@ronm3945 no defense i guess you rather see nikkas getting punched in the stomach… and flopping whether you like it or not is more of the refs fault if it works no sense in not using it 🤷♂️
@@slxpvz7916 nope its not like that .your talking the exceptions..the fights..but defence was tight and points were contested not matador defence if u call ot that..well guess society is soft and sensitive these days reflected by the sports and soyboy fanbase..not fanbase really...as most you wannabe only watch highlights bugtthink u know all lmao
Great video! One of my big takeaways was the way players and coaches adjusted to the different rules of the eras. So interesting to see the evolution of the greatest game in the history of the world!
I'll always respect 50's basketball. This era is the building block for today's game. As mentioned in this video, one dribble then pull up jumper and the flashy passes made it into today's game.
I made it through the whole video so I am a big basketball fan ☺️
That’s actually the best description of Illegal Defense that I’ve come across.
I never understood it or understood why it was even a rule. I just know it stopped play at least 10 times a game and produced a shit ton of technicals.
Such high-quality content -- bravo! I think it's safe to say it's one of the best basketball videos I've ever seen.
Thanks so much for uploading this on TH-cam. Massive props to you!
I'm not a big NBA fan, but I could tell this was going to be a good video. It was even better than that, with solid descriptions and great comparisons/contrasts. A worthwhile watch!
Enjoyed the video!
Watched the '84, '85, and '87 Lakers-Celtics NBA finals a couple years ago for pandemic entertainment. There was a big difference between '85 and '87 in that using the three-point line was actually a strategy in '87. Certainly not like today but on a fast break, Michael Cooper would go to the three-point line instead of the basket. I think he made six in one game which was a huge amount.
honestly some players nowadays still struggle to make six in a game with high shot attempts so that's impressive
I am not a fan of the 3, I can't stand to see guys pull up for that shot on a fast break, my mouth used to drop open when I first saw that, now it's nearly the norm, Dirk, and Embiid just launching away, way too much. I can't stand that shot.!!!
@@ericday4505 and why?
@@ericday4505 there’s a reason you’re not a coach
This is probably the best hoops video I’ve seen to date. That includes my old 80s 90s VHS’s, which to be fair were basically music videos. I though I’d just be nodding my head in agreement the whole time, but instead you had my eyelids peeled. Amazing job!
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1960s actually does sound difficult 😂 you basically have to do every movement perfectly. And they complain about fouls now you literally got one for touching someone back then 😭
every possession would end in a whistle if today's players were held to that standard. while the game may have been more 'pure', I can see why they let up for the sake of flow and entertainment.
@@uberneanderthal in what way is that pure? Slow clunky offense with no defensive physicality? That is horrible basketball. Nothing pure about it
@@arch8748 consistent application of the rules as they are written, which is definitely a problem in the modern game
@@arch8748 shutup troll
Excellent video. I think the only thing missing is the 1975-1976 ABA championship game. That would have revealed Doctor J's influence in the open court, going to the basket, and all-around skills. Even the crossovers and dribbling that was not seen in the clogged NBA paint finals of 1977. ( There is a clip on TH-cam of an ABA Doctor J crossing over his man at the 3 point line, taking 1 or two dribbles and then ramming It in over 7-2 ABA and NBA Hall of Famer centre Artis Gilmore). Remember, the ABA had the 3-point shot since 1967 and also recorded stats we take for granted today like blocks, steals, before the NBA did. The ABA set the tone with their more exciting free flow game that the NBA much later adopted through absorbing the 4 ABA teams and the talent like Doc, David Thompson and George Gervin.
Great work on this. I learned a lot and the whole video reeked of painstaking analysis and attention to detail with what was going on in every game you looked at. Amazing job
Thank you for taking the time and analyzing these! We need more videos like this, they're so interesting for hoops fans.
Great content thanks for taking the time to put it together. I'm from England and played high school basketball in the mid 90s. Finally, I know where and when my high school manager learnt his basketball plays, the 80s lol. The plays that you highlighted from this decade were our staples, it was fun to see where they were taken from.
Interesting. How popular is basketball there? Is there a pro team there?
18:51 John Stockton was a great passer and an excellent mid range shooter
You take Stockton away from that team and they're a .500 - 600 ball club. That guy did so many things well and so effortlessly, you don't notice it til he's gone
Stockton is a top 3 pg ever but people are too stupid to notice it.
@@aaronflowers8881easy top 3 pg
@@monolithgeometry3221malone made him and that team
@@aaronflowers8881no he aint tf you talking bout 😂🤡
Finally a video about different eras of basketball without the creator throwing in their unwanted opinions about who's better or "how much harder" it used to be or is now. Thank you, and great video!
He even dispells some of that with his comments about the Celtics. Just a great video about old NBA without Old Head bullshit.
Excellent video! I didn’t start watching basketball religiously until 2015, so I don’t have much frame of reference when comparing the modern game to that of earlier decades.
I do have one small gripe with this video, though. When you compared the 1963 finals to the 1977 finals, there was a 14 year gap between the two games highlighted. That’s the same gap between the 1998 and 2012 finals. In my opinion, this does not accurately reflect the changes in each decade because so little time passed between your selected years. If you were to make this video again, I might recommend you implement a minimum of 8 years and a maximum of 12 years between each game. Great video nonetheless. Thank you for putting this together!
You've watched basketball for a couple years lol just be quiet boy
I had a similar thought-- in particular about that same stretch. The league hadn't yet completely lost it's 1950s vibe by 1963, but by 1966, with most of the old guard retired, it had entered a new more recognizably "modern" phase that lasted until the mid-1970s. After the ABA folded in 1976, the NBA had begun another new phase. By the way, I've been watching basketball since the 1960s.
@@samsquanch1234 They're right though... You should know that if you've watched for more than a couple years.
I felt this in terms of the games picked as well the video definitelty shows a look at the game styles of course but with the variety of teams and tactics I would be curoius to know if there were teams that show the 3 ball more or used different types of plays compared to what was showed
While ball handling is obviously “better” nowadays, you have to realize that players carry the ball all the time now, in the 60s if they dribbled/ crossed over like they do now it would’ve been called a carry
Agreed, but even then they looked uncomfortable dribbling within their rules. You can still switch hands without doing a crossover, but they didn't. You don't even need to do this "better", because It is objectively better today.
@@noname-jd2vo yeah I’m not saying players aren’t better today because they are, just that if the rules were called like that nowadays players today would have a hard time adjusting to not dribbling like they do now, same with traveling, it’s basically never called
Wtf they travel and carry the balls these days..and the nba lets them get away with it..hows that better exactly???
The looked uncomfortable dribbling cause they couldn’t switch hands for fear of being called a carry duh.
@@Rickypaleo1776 really..have you seen maravich handle the ball..without the need to be help having to carry or travel.you old historian you lmao...i guarantee you half the dudes today wont look half as good without the help of the lax rules..lmao.
I've watched this video dozens of times now.
Your explanation of illegal defense baiting by the Jazz in 1998 is spot on. I grew up in Utah and watched as many Jazz games as I could - which was all of them in 1997 and 1998. However, I was a kid, and I didn't realize at the time just how repetitive and boring their offensive sequences were.
I've learned a lot from this video, and I keep pointing my friends and family to it to explain what actually happened in those days.
I seriously think this is one of the best NBA history products I've ever seen. It might even be THE best.
If you think this is the best. Then you simply need to watch other content creators out there. While there is some point to this video. It doesn't tell the whole story. Watching 1 game from every decade can be very misleading.
@@nine9_abyssWhich parts do you disagree with - and what counter evidence do you have?
It's insane to think how in fifty years it turned from that to a multi billion dollar revenue of playing a game with a ball and rim
It is not surprising that newer generations become "better" at the game. They can learn from the older generations... or at least take inspiration from older generations even if some rules are changed. Basketball players becomes "better" as history goes on, should be something that is celebrated, because that means the sport is growing.
Exactly, it’s a good thing that should happen and those happen in all sports. I never got why people got so offended by the fact players today are simply better than back then.
@@roverjohnson6854 because it’s not them better just have more skills to run with give older eras the same techniques that the new players have now would determine whose better however the correct term are the newer players have more options
@@JohnDoe-vf3qo which means they are more skilled which also means that they are better not saying that the older era couldn’t learn how to play like the current era
@@Duqsos no it just means they had more to choose firing any of the older era people in the game to play now and they will dominate because of the more options. To determine better especially between eras is to keep it equal. Give the 60s less people on the court and a 3 point line and the ideas from the later eras and you will get a similar result of now.
@@JohnDoe-vf3qo, Took a LONG time after the three point line was invented to get Steph Curry. That’s not how it works.
A masterpiece! Keep up the good work, I always look forward to your breakdowns. Your videos explain the game way better than anything I have ever seen on television. Did seeing that pistol action in the 2022 game and the random 1960s game you picked surprise you?
My only criticism is he should’ve used 2015 Warriors/Cavs instead 2012 of Heat/Thunder, but he wanted to find a way to give Lebron his shine in this video. After 2015, as evident with the Al Horford example, everyone started jacking 3’s.
@@NT-or9wh I think he picked the game from 2012 to show how the 2010's were the transition from the 90s/00s way of playing to the way the game is played today.
@@NT-or9wh Aww someone's mad he gave Lebron more credit than Jordan in this video
Awesome video! I almost forgot about how they tried to outlaw parts of the zone, but that just made coaches even more creative and the players even smarter. I loved 90s basketball.
Maybe your goat video. I feel like we have seen 8 different styles of the game in 8 decades. let me know if you agree!
Great breakdown and information. Crazy how the game we all love, basketball, has evolved over the decades. I starred following the game back in 1978, Seattle SuperSonics vs Washington Bullets and been a fan since. This video break down was respectfully done. Thanks for your hard work and sharing with us.
The 5-17 Bob Hopkins Sonics before Lenny Wilkins took over?! What a truly amazing year, and great year to catch NBA fever! Marvin Webster in '78, then Jack Sikma in '79!
@@monstrousbytommywalker3700 Yes indeed! That 1978 and 79 squad was special. Lenny Wilkins did a fantastic coaching job. I hate how that 78 and 79 Sonics squad never gets mentioned among the Championship teams, even though that 78 squad didn't win the title but that 79 squad is so overlooked! It is a shame.
@@kennethrobinson6738 No marquee names at the national level. I watched the Lakers for Kareem and later Magic, the Celtics for Bird and the Bulls for Michael. The rest of these teams would grow on me through familiarity over time.
Great video man! One thing about the 70’s game I noticed. The Trail Blazers were legendary for being ahead of their time with ball movement on offense. Also Doug Collins was famous, and an outlier, for being a high motor all hustle guy. Most 70’s games would have looked a lot different. Also loo into how loose officials have become with palming in terms of improved ball handling. It was fascinating to see all those pull up bombs from the very early games. How about another one highlighting non-descript games between mediocre teas, to compare to these? They could be good games, just games with no significance played by teams without much motivation. That would be awesome.
Warriors, Celtics, Knicks, Lakers were all very good with ball movement in the 70's. Wilt, by the early 70's, was playing somewhat like Walton would a few years later, with a greater emphasis on passing and defense.
Bill Walton was ahead of his time... He made that offense work
I'm surprised you didn't mention the "pick n roll." From at least the 70s, at all levels of basketball, it has been a dominating play, and remains almost unstoppable today.
Haven't even watched this video but this title and video idea is so good. Wow so pumped to watch this
Awesome video! I've been wanting a video like this comparing each decade of the NBA to each other. Amazing work dude!
In 1990, teams were taking 7 threes a game avg 106ppg. Today the league avg is about 5x that number and they avg 110ppg! The three was considered a gimmick in the 80's, Bill Fitch made it a point to have Bird avoid shooting the 3p
The avg was 101 ppg in 1990 and last year it was 112ppg
That's correct, Deboo. Bird shot a lot of 3 pointers his rookie year. Fitch made him stop. I think part of the reason that the 3 was rarely used at the time was nobody was accustomed to shooting it. It didn't exits in high school or college. Most players had to learn it at the NBA level from scratch.
It was a gimmick. Unfourtanately that gimmick has totally ruined basketball and made it boring
@@poocrayon4588 The three itself was fine until the 2005 rule changes. It was hard to just fire up 3 pointers all day with tired legs. Taking the physicality out of the game changed everything.
One of the best analytics and discussion about the different eras I've ever seen. Comprehensive and detailed. Anyone who thinks Lebron or even new unproven players like a Jalen Green couldn't play in earlier eras is ludicrous. They would think they were evil wizards with the talent and athleticism todays players possess. Very very very well done.
This video was awesome. The breakdown of each decade game were amazing. Keep it up
dude you are so underrated. your breakdowns are actually good! i had to replay a few times on certain play to confirm your observation
Hookshots are underrated and should be done more today. Meadowlark Lemon perfected it so well he could make a skyhook from anywhere on the court.
You do realize that things like the average level of athleticism, close out speed (from defenders to shooters), and help defense play a big role in why that type of shot wouldn't be regularly effective in today's game right? Stop letting nostalgia cloud your judgement my friend.
@@jesseaustin4089 With hookshots you don't have to set with both hands it's faster than you think Watch how Meadowlark did it when he tried to do it fast. Some of his shots were slow to be funny or for drama etc when he needed to do it with speed he could. Athletes have not evolved the rules evolved and shoes changed. As humans it takes atleast thousands of yrs to see legit evolution.
@@jesseaustin4089 Who knows even what the rules are to that game anymore , they change and soften them so often like people change sexes . Can you still do pump fakes or is that illegal. Who gives a shit really. Bomb a 3 against mentally soft players with better speed
Excellent idea. However, hard to apply from two teams in one game, a blanket skills assessment of an entire league in a given decade. I love the thought and attempt. Great work!
Looking at this video, you start to appreciate more every era. And realize why players play the way they play to a certain extent. The rule changes really dictate the evolution of the game.
The rule changes certainly had an impact, but I'm struck by how much simple changes in strategy/philosophy really altered the game. I grew up watching the NBA in the 90s, and even then, I always wondered why players would turn down open threes. Like the clip from the 98 finals, I don't care what era it was, Stockton should've taken that shot.
@@Ricky-SpanishReggie said it best,you can’t be a punk you gotta drive it in the lane ,it was motivation
*Wonderful to watch! It's the kind of stuff you always want to know, but it would be too much to ask. Unless we do it ourselves and it's too much work! I really REALLY appreciate your work and this video!*
This was such a cool video. Loved that final nugget about the Pistol play ! I love this game!
Dude this video was great! I'm just getting into NBA and this helped me learn so much about the evolution of the league, rules, players, etc. which is my favorite part about sports. Keep it up, I'm gonna check out the rest of your videos now.
Feel bad for you. That today’s game is your first exposure to the game. Suggest you search for some old school 80s 90s games on here.
17:48 holy shit poor Steve Kerr setting a screen on Malone and getting absolutely trampled on 😵💫
Stevey must've hated playing the Jazz. Got beat up by the biggest dude (Malone), and the smallest dude (Stockton) XD
The guy has like 7 total rings now?
Edit: He has 9 now.
Isaiah Thomas caught an elbow from Malone setting a screen one time. Mailman delivered a lot of that to guards.
Amazing video! I listen to a lot of nba player rankings and seeing what the game was actually like throughout the eras is super helpful. Thanks for making this!
It really highlights how todays game is one dimensional. All I saw were threes and almost all of them wide open lol.
One of the best basketball videos I’ve seen, great and unbiased
I would love to see this made into series, where you look at a larger portion of games from each decade. Obviously the 50's would be more of a challenge to find games.
Although decades form a natural timeframe, I think some jumps are a bit too large. 1963 to 1977 we skip a period where NBA has a competitor league in ABA yet has a historically stacked center position, 1985 to 1998 we skip the early 90s which is rather different from the late 90s featuring peak Hakeem, MJ, Barkley and offensive efficiency is still high league wide. I would have liked adding sth like the 1972 Lakers-Bucks and the 1993 Bulls-Suns finals.
That said, absolutely great video!
Completely agree, great video, massive props to OP, overall really wonderful work done esp keeping things level headed unbiased among eras. Also great jumping off point for those looking to understand the history of the game more. However there were huge periods of NBA history passed over in the jumps that really contextualize the changes of the game.
Great video. Eras need to be factored in more when comparing the greats. We like to compare stats and championships but It makes a huge difference if you were scoring against double teams or if there was illegal defense or how the floor was spaced.
50s, 60, 70s was atrocious. 80s decent, 90s defense just allowed great offensive players to dominate. 2000s and up is when skill started to matter.
Man this video makes me respect Kobe even more cause the rules were seriously changing around his reign and like you pointed out he didn't have the shooting help to supplement his drives like lebron did and still made it work before Detroit won one....also you should have done the Nba salaries during each take to see if a guy really had to get that plumber job while playing in the league lol
Yea but he Shaq. That kinda evens it out
Credit where it's due. A brilliant analysis and answers so many questions I had growing up playing ball in the UK and watching the NBA during the 90s.
You've also given me some brilliant insights into how I can change the more holistic elements of my coaching. Demystifying certain elements and getting new young players into the game itself by Demystifying what they see in TV.
Thank You!
Excellent video!!! If only we could have 3 games per decade, I know it's too much watching and editing, maybe impossible, but it would created a broader perspective, taking a game at the start, mid and end of every decade, also maybe choose teams with the different game styles in the same era, diffensive minded teams vs offensive minded teams, maybe the 80's pistons would have made it to the video. Keep the good work sir!!!
I really learn a lot from this video, kudos to your effort!
This was amazing! Would love to see you do games from different years of the decades and continue the concept.
I respect the effort you put in to this video. The patience, urgency and how you dedicaded your love to this beautiful game. From your man AD
great video - really nice demonstration of the evolving arms race of skills, spacing, and schemes. Kobe learned from MJ, but so did the defenses and they were ready when illegal defense was legislated away.
Jordan and early Kobe (Shaq era) played in the most difficult era for perimeter players. There wasn't the spacing there is today from all the 3's, no 3 second shot block in the Jordan era so centers camped near the hoop, handchecking made it more difficult to get around a defensive player, etc. In 2004/05 first season without hand checking and some other rule changes, the perimeter players instantly became the top players in the league.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson these are good facts. I do think we should point out though that handchecking was banned by the 80's, becoming increasingly enforced in the 90's before being strictly forbidden as you pointed out in 2005. The rise of perimeter players shouldn't devolve totally on final abolishment of 'hand-checking' in 2005, but also a suite of changes including legalizing zone defense in 2002 and the gradual rise of 3PA spreading the floor thereby opening those driving lanes.
@@sesquipedalian6278 80's ban did nothing. There was another rule change in mid 90's which did lead to 'elbow checking' but that enforcement seemed to disappear as the 90s' went along. The game slowed down and got more physical from around 95-2004. They legalized zone defensive but also implemented a defensive 3 second rule which made zone defense difficult which is why you saw more of a semi zone defense played.
@@sesquipedalian6278 Removal of the handchecking didn't make the game a 3pt shooting league but if you want to see the impact it had immediately, look all but one MVP not including Jordan won between 1990-2004 was a post player - Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson, Duncan, KG, Barkely. From 2005 and after, there wouldn't be any post player to win MVP until Giannis 2019 and I wouldn't call him post player -- he scores mostly from dribbling form the perimeter to the hoop.
Want more evidence? the Increase in offensive rating (pts per possession) and effective fg% were the biggest single season increases on record (not including the 1998/99 lock out year).
Want more evidence? In 2003/04, only one player scored over 24.2pts and it was McGrady around 28pts. In 2004/05, it was about 7 players over 24.2pts and tops was over 30. In 2005/06, it was 11 players with 3 of them over 31pts and tops was 35pts.
In fact, 2005/06 the top 13 scorers were all perimeter players.
The game changed instantly after removing handchecking and quickly transitioned from post dominated to perimeter dominated. The 3's would slowly rise throughout the 2000's but it would start shooting up around 2012.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson The take I got from this video is actually the opposite, with respect to Jordan. You might have handchecking in the 90s, but illegal defense really opened up the mid-range for MJ to dominate because there was nothing the opponents could do other than let him play iso. According to the video, it was Kobe who got the worst of it. There was no illegal offense, he couldn't play iso, and that was before the 3-pt revolution so they didn't have consistent shooters to punish that either. That seems to be the worst case scenario to me.
As usual an amazing video. I feel like your videos make me love the sport more. Watching the playoffs I couldn’t help but see your animations on the court helping me understand the motions better. It really does help.
I wouldn't call the guys in the 60's plumbers and firemen. I've watched games before this and the pace is unreal. Loong at average scoring is one thing but when you take into account the shot percentages on these fast breaks, often forced in a 1 on 2 or 2 on 3 in the defenders favor instead of slowing down the ball and transitioning into half court offense, and immediately move into fast break in the other direction, the pace was even faster than the game scores lead you to believe. These guys had to be real cross country athletes and it must have been exhausting. Its no wonder shooting percentages were so low. Everyone was burnt out. It also explains the insane rebounding numbers of big men who could get up and down the court like Wilt and Bill. Guys back then were incredible athletes. They were just built in a different way than they are today.
In a similar manner, guys in the 80s/90s were also built in a different way. They were bulkier which helped them with the more physical style of play that was often focused around posting up. It also made them more durable and less prone to injury.
Meanwhile today, players have more lean builds, built for speed. They're (generally) faster and get beter looks through outpacing their defender or coming off screens than backing them down. However, in all my life watching basketball I have never seen injuries be as big of an issue as they are today. There are so many star players missing so many games because of injuries, I can't help but think it's because of the way they are built.
Either way, all of these guys are world-class athletes in my book. They were just built for the game in their era, and the game has changed so much over the years.
It's not the way they are built.
It's the way they play.
They play with a lot of hard cuts and momentum changes. Those are what damage your knees and ankles more than anything especially when done at awkward angles.
You can run up and down the court all day. What you can't do is do what Ja morant does all day.
@@Christopher._M These guys also grow up playing an absolute ton of basketball so their bodies have more wear and tear before they even get to the league.
this is probably my favorite basketball comment
Bro what you talking about build different? They all just the same, they just play different. We all just the same people bro lol. Tf this guy talking about.
@@lukamagicgod how you work out, train, eat, etc. changes your build, and you can go for a lean build or bulk up. Duh
Wow that's great. I finished the video and want to share it with all my friends. That's how good it was.
The biggest challenge for NBA teams today is to figure out how to effectively defend the 3 point shot. When someone does we will see an upset like the 2004 finals.
They should really just move the 3 pt line back a foot or two at this point. 3 pointers have oversaturated the game and made it so one dimensional, but you can't even blame the players for taking them when the risk reward factor is so in favor of taking the three point shot with how good shooting has gotten these days.
@@lumpy9964they should just make handchecking legal again, people are offensively talented enough to handle it nowadays imo
@@lumpy9964exactly. Or eliminate the corner 3 and just have a straight solid line across the top of the arc.
It will eventually be solved. Players are getting bigger now and they’re also agile. It will become easier to switch which I think would be a 3-ball killer.
that’s literally the beauty of todays game, offense has gotten so deep and players so versatile, that defenses will have to weigh out what shots they’re willing to live with. if im a top defensive team with a league average offensive rating, kinda like the lakers then im really just trying to find the open three. or actions that free up the post luring in the defensive help and kicking it out. and vice versa so on and so forth. these variables didn’t exist a couple decades ago and everything evolves. me personally it’s a joy to watch the modern game.
Excellent analysis of how the game was played in each decade. It's been a beautiful thing seeing the game evolved to where it is now today.
Except it’s evolved into a game of nearly all threes and not much defense at all guarding said threes.
@@MS-so5fr 15:35 - 18:15 - 29:35
it's evolved into a boring 3 point contest
This video was great
Dont get to see many real breakdowns of basketball across the decades
Showing the true difference in the game
And explaining everything with context of the times
This video supports a perspective of progressive strategic development in response to innate problems. Clogged paint limits offense, spaced floor opens the paint, better shooters solve the problem of sagging defenses, longer, more mobile wings address the problem of corner camping....etc. The game is a chess match in which defensive schemes, offensive skill sets and rule adjustments continually fine tune the balance and quality of play. Variable that were not discussed involve broader context - the international explosion of the player pool, improvements in fitness and skills training, and the evolution of new archetypes (for example, the mobile, two way, very long wing (Kawhi, KD), the stretch big (Horford's evolution was explained), and the extinction of the hook shooting, ass backing dinosaur post up are themes of changing Bball archetypes. Any old head who watches this and still slobbers about the old guys' superiority.....well....you can't fix stupid.
Didn't notice any difference in the game; a hoop at each end, rebounding and defense are essential, and the team that scores the most points wins.
@@philwilson609 I think he assumed that the person watching the video had some rudimentary understanding of the basics.
@@sebclot9478 WTF?? Why don't you elaborate if you have something to say, troll.
@@philwilson609 I’m 20, and certain things about the present era suck ass, compared to the 00’s. Specifically defense and grit, it’s just discouraged to play up against your man.
Great job on this!! Especially glad you included the 77 Blazers. I’m no NBA historian by any stretch but that team was probably the best of that decade and I’m saying that as a Laker fan who cheered on their 71-72 team to a 69-13 record, a 33-game win streak and a title that season. Walton was unbelievable in those playoffs. That team had it all and was totally unselfish.
The three pointer changed the game for sure. It took decades though for teams to take full advantage turning the game into a three point shooting contest
I love this. Great analysis. 30 minutes seems long but it could have been an hour and I’d still be wanting more.
Thank you very much for making such a great production I really enjoyed it and it's very informative very educational I definitely can tell you put a lot of time and hard work into this it is definitely refreshing to find videos like this
When I saw the title the first thing that came to mind was small sample size. I'm glad to see this video was much more than that. What makes this video truly great is the presentation of the details of basketball strategy within the games to make larger overall points about each era. A very educational video, and very well produced.
So it is small sample size. M0r0n
As I was about to comment on the funny free throws from back in the day, I was taken aback by the bad-ass passing.
The free throws looked at a bit childish and online, however, it was very effective
It’s honestly amazing to see those flashy passes in the 50s
Idea: Make a similar series that focuses on rule changes. How does the game change when you change the rules?
You can see the huge impact that banning the handcheck had going into the 2004/05 season. Year before, it was dominated by big men but then from 2004/05, the top players all played on the perimeter mostly G to SF or a perimeter PF like Dirk. 2009 they allowed gather step plus 2 steps which basically gave players an additional 2 steps.
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I like the idea for the video, but one game from one decade is such a small sample selection that the analysis will be skewed no matter what. You should make this into a series, examine each decade against the modern game by using at least 1 game from every year of that decade. It will be more work no doubt, but you'll end up with more accurate results and better series of videos. Just a suggestion.
Having watched plenty of classic basketball games, the trends he analyzed were typical of the eras.
@@justinlevy274 that’s nice to know. However such evolution doesn’t just fall from the sky so it’d be interesting to see how the game changed slightly year by year to feel the nuance
@@joshuachang5210 It doesnt really change like that, it tends to come suddenly. The Nash Suns teams, the 2010s spurs team etc. If you study a couple of those landmark teams youll see the innovations. Everyone just copies them after they innovate.
@@justinlevy274 fair enough but those innovative teams can come within the same decade, and even if there’s only one major change there’s still gonna be the difference between before and after.
@@joshuachang5210 I think the point of the video though is that you can compare two very good teams from that era and their play style. That play style was probably evolving in the years before that and those teams likely copied it for their team. If you do a video showing the most innovative teams each decade you don't get a sense of the typical team or what was winning during that era. But doing videos about different eras is almost always interesting.
Love your channel hoopvision. I was hoping you could take a look at some of the euroleagues best offenses and defenses as well. I'm willing to bet theyre going to be very informative
The thing with ballhandling in the 70s is that the rules were different if you took kd and time traveled him to the 70s he’d get called for a carry every possesion those 70s players literally couldn’t be as good of dribblers as the players today allen iverson really changed the game with ballhandling and what refs would call Carry
They were better dribblers back then
You’re literally talking about allowing POOR ball handling! Early years, you had to move your body to protect the ball, now you can defy gravity with all types of carrying. Same thing with traveling, easy to follow rules to start, perverted to accommodate those who need an edge.
The guys now would be called for carrying and traveling not saying better or worse but it's a fact
@@danzemacabre8899 that’s why I respect the older players but me personally I think the new rules make it more I tersting
@Jose-st3fq for the most part I agree with you , at times it does border on the ridiculous when the refs let the players get away with too much , there are times when a player literally tucks the ball takes 3 or 4 steps like that are going for a first down but other than that I agree
I’m very impressed and watched the video twice, b2b. Great breakdown of the game over the years!
good commentary i would like to see a bigger sample of each decade though
this exactly. Some trends left out here by decade
1960s: Wilt Chamberlain's post offense
1970s: Early jump shooters (Oscar Robertson, Jerry West etc); Pistol Pete (the 76ers game showcased ABA style basketball as the leagues had just merged)
1980s: nothing missing here - 1985 was the best year to capture.
1990s: Also nothing missing here - Iso ball was iso ball for MJ as well as the host of superstar players (Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Barkley, Clyde Drexler)
2000s: Playing around power forwards (Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett); post-early 2000s rule changes; run'n'gun Suns
2010s: The impact of Steph Curry; failed superteams; emergence of the scoring guard (Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Ja Morant)
2020s: Versatile bigs (Embiid, Giannis, Jokic), but this is just expanding on versatility mentioned in this video - if everyone is versatile, of course bigs are going to dominate on virtue of their size.
what about watching a mediocre game from each decade? like a warriors/clippers duel in the 90s, or a knicks game with hornacek coaching and andrea bargnani on the floor
Good idea
Great idea, but also pain lol
I think it would do a better job of seeing what the decades were like. No other big was playing like Bill Walton lol
Are you trying to torture him?
It’s probably hard to try to find those games on TH-cam lol
People forget that the 60s was the fastest era of the NBA with the most possessions per game.
more like we find out that the 60s and earlier were full of trash players who wouldn't even get a scouting report in today's NBA. Bill Russel probably won't even get drafted if he can only play defense.
@@vanguardas9927 You are a goof. Yes, basketball in the 60s was underdeveloped. But, Russell was an incredible athlete and defender that would have stood out in any era; the same as Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, and Wilt Chamberlain. Watch on video comparing Wilt in his Philly days to other athletes and then remember that Russell battled Wilt to a standstill.
@@michaelcarrig627 If Giannis played in a bum ass league, he would also be able to do what Wilt did...probably better since Wilt can't shoot for shit even FTs
@@vanguardas9927 Yes, Giannis would have dominated like Wilt. Doesn't change the fact that Wilt was an all world athlete who was as fast as Lebron and with a 40 vertical. These guys would have succeeded in any era, as they would have the same training methods. Your arguments are dumb as fuck. If you can bring them into the future, then they have all the benefits of living in the future.
@@vanguardas9927 You know nothing about basketball
Loved this video. Wish you have dived a little more into the Dantoni Suns teams that mixed both pick and roll and off the ball screens along with the 7 seconds or less. That offense became the foundation to what we see today.