An in-depth look at the different “types” of Stanley No71 router planes. Includes a brief overview of the Stanley No71 1/2, the Millers Falls No67, and Sargent’s No62
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Very informative, thank you. I just acquired one today for $14 in a garage clearance and at first thought it was a British Record brand router plane. Closer inspection showed the Stanley logo. Your video now tells me its a type 2 router plane! However, it has been modified by some previous owner. The knobs look to have been replaced but that can be rectified. The single blade it came with is not the type it came with but has the notch for a height adjuster. Finally, a threaded height adjustment post and adjustment nut was added to 'modernize' it to make it like the type 2. 71 1/2... Still fully functional and great to have in my toolset. 😀
Thanks Bill! Definitely no frills, no camera angle changes, and no razzle dazzle on this one, just straight info. It won’t go viral but a few hundred folks will get some of their questions answered.
Nice rundown Michael. I bought a Stanley type 1 a while back thinking it was an original Cope patent plane. Henry Cope patented the plane in January of 1884 and sold it to Stanley that same year. Needless to say, there aren't too many in existence. Cope's original model had a different collar to hold the iron. He redesigned it shortly thereafter to the style Stanley ended up using. The only other difference with Cope's router was that it was scaled down being reasonably smaller than Stanley's version.
I restored a no.71 last year and it’s made in England, however, the finish is closer to the type 14 (stand in) and it has beechwood knobs with silver (colour) barrel nuts (including the fence and foot). I have another (very similar looking unit) arriving today in the post (without any attachments), which I got for a good deal on. It has markings under bridge where foot mounts: an X and the number 20. I only have a 1/4” cutter but fortunately Veratis cutters will fit. Little rust spots return to the checkered area even though its stored well and my other vintage tools not affected. I considering to wipe gun metal blue on the main body when restoring new arrival. All my tools are regularly used and have been tuned for my woodworking needs. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, much appreciated, as that book is insanely expensive 😁
I spent a whole lot of time and money getting all these No71s together and this video will probably net me about $1.10 😜😅😅😅 It’ll have to be another hand plane enthusiast that puts together the 71.5 study video overview
Ha, thanks for the shout-out and the guest appearance of my type 6. Great video again. We need to hit some more estate sales soon. By the way, ever see anyone reverse the iron in the router? Is it meant to do that? The 'post' that holds the iron seems completely reversible.
Agreed! I do love a router plane - although I may have to part with some of these now that the video is done. I still have lots of non-Stanley router planes in my collection
Unfortunately I don’t have enough visual aids to make an effective 71 1/2 video. If you can get your hands on Walter’s book, the 71.5 type study has some great pics
That’s very possible. Lots of crossover from one type to the next - across a variety of planes. I would think that knobs would be a common one to cross over from what we now identify as specific “types”
Hmm, a lot of well deserved accolades. But, I would like to ask about the steel. Particularly in the blade... does the later models have the same (better!) steel as the earlier? Or, will I be sharpening more often. The reason I don't already know is I have a homemade one.
I’m really not sure about the steel on them. With improvements in metallurgy over the years, the irons could easily be higher quality, however, Stanley may have been looking for ways to cut production costs so it’s a crap shoot - could go either way 🤷🏻♂️
I have a late version (type 15?). The amount of work to sharpen the irons was surprising, they are extremely hard!!! They hold an edge for eternity it would seem. Hope that helps 😀
@@justplanefun well, oversight happens. I get it. It's just that TH-cam dims parts of the screen to draw the attention to the video. It makes the video super bright and little too jarring.
just-plane-fun.myshopify.com/products/stanley-no71-router-plane-fence?ToPasteboard
A few select router plane parts are listed on my Shopify store. Check it out!
Very cool. I now know that my 71 is a type 11. Thanks MJ.
That means it’s working! Excellent 😎
Most helpful, thank you very much Mr Jenks 👍👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative, thank you.
I just acquired one today for $14 in a garage clearance and at first thought it was a British Record brand router plane.
Closer inspection showed the Stanley logo. Your video now tells me its a type 2 router plane!
However, it has been modified by some previous owner. The knobs look to have been replaced but that can be rectified. The single blade it came with is not the type it came with but has the notch for a height adjuster. Finally, a threaded height adjustment post and adjustment nut was added to 'modernize' it to make it like the type 2. 71 1/2...
Still fully functional and great to have in my toolset. 😀
Another in depth description MJ. Enjoy the detail partner. Hope all is well with you and your family. Semper Fi brother.
Thanks Bill! Definitely no frills, no camera angle changes, and no razzle dazzle on this one, just straight info. It won’t go viral but a few hundred folks will get some of their questions answered.
Nice rundown Michael. I bought a Stanley type 1 a while back thinking it was an original Cope patent plane. Henry Cope patented the plane in January of 1884 and sold it to Stanley that same year. Needless to say, there aren't too many in existence. Cope's original model had a different collar to hold the iron. He redesigned it shortly thereafter to the style Stanley ended up using. The only other difference with Cope's router was that it was scaled down being reasonably smaller than Stanley's version.
Excellent info. I was unaware of that part of the history. I think a couple hundred peeps will get some useful info out of this one
as always, a great little journey .. extremely useful.. thanks for your dedication..
Thanks for watching! Y’all make all of this possible
I found a No71 type 1 with a 3/4" blade. Picked 2 days ago at a yard sale for $30!
Very nice!
I restored a no.71 last year and it’s made in England, however, the finish is closer to the type 14 (stand in) and it has beechwood knobs with silver (colour) barrel nuts (including the fence and foot). I have another (very similar looking unit) arriving today in the post (without any attachments), which I got for a good deal on. It has markings under bridge where foot mounts: an X and the number 20. I only have a 1/4” cutter but fortunately Veratis cutters will fit. Little rust spots return to the checkered area even though its stored well and my other vintage tools not affected. I considering to wipe gun metal blue on the main body when restoring new arrival. All my tools are regularly used and have been tuned for my woodworking needs. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, much appreciated, as that book is insanely expensive 😁
Sounds like a really nice one.
The "Wayward Routers " was the name of my first Jr. High School garage band . Nice video my friend and very informative 👍
💩! I hope I don’t run into any copyright or trademark issues 😬😳
I mean, it does sound like a solid band name 🤣
Love to see a 71 1/2 type study
I spent a whole lot of time and money getting all these No71s together and this video will probably net me about $1.10 😜😅😅😅
It’ll have to be another hand plane enthusiast that puts together the 71.5 study video overview
@@justplanefun beg borrow and steal lol
Loved your vid. Great info. Thanks so much. I'm on the hunt to find a 15 at a good price
They’re definitely out there. Prices seem to vary wildly, usually based on how many parts are included vs. how many are missing
Another great informative videos! Thanks for the content!!
I appreciate you tuning in. I think we got your router complete, eh?
@@justplanefun I believe so, I really appreciate you getting those parts for me!
Ha, thanks for the shout-out and the guest appearance of my type 6. Great video again. We need to hit some more estate sales soon. By the way, ever see anyone reverse the iron in the router? Is it meant to do that? The 'post' that holds the iron seems completely reversible.
I’ve seen some better woodworkers than me that have done it on TH-cam. I’m sure there are applications for it
Very cool video, MJ! I sure love mine!
Me too. Although I think maybe I have more router planes than I need, especially now that the video is done
@@justplanefun
I may be interested in another from you. Other types too.
thanks for another great video michael, it would seem that my #71 is type 8 and nicely complete.
Outstanding! I’m glad it was helpful for you
@@justplanefun complete thanks to you, i'm pretty sure i bought a part for it from you!
Great history and video, Thankyou mate.
I appreciate you tuning in!
Great video Michael…thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Another great video, turns out I have a type 15. I find the open throat design handy when doing blind groves. They are a joy to use 🍻
Agreed! I do love a router plane - although I may have to part with some of these now that the video is done. I still have lots of non-Stanley router planes in my collection
Great information !!
Would love to be able to afford one
They’re surprisingly affordable for a base model. Feel free to email me at jplanefun@gmail.com and I’ll see if I can work within your price range
Awesome video!
Thanks Brotha!
Great video, are you going to do a video on 71 1/2 next or is it much of the same. cheers from Tasmania
Unfortunately I don’t have enough visual aids to make an effective 71 1/2 video. If you can get your hands on Walter’s book, the 71.5 type study has some great pics
@@justplanefun thanks will try and hunt it down. cheers
I have a type 4, and the handles have beads. Maybe leftover inventory from the type 3?
That’s very possible. Lots of crossover from one type to the next - across a variety of planes. I would think that knobs would be a common one to cross over from what we now identify as specific “types”
Hmm, a lot of well deserved accolades. But, I would like to ask about the steel. Particularly in the blade... does the later models have the same (better!) steel as the earlier? Or, will I be sharpening more often.
The reason I don't already know is I have a homemade one.
I’m really not sure about the steel on them. With improvements in metallurgy over the years, the irons could easily be higher quality, however, Stanley may have been looking for ways to cut production costs so it’s a crap shoot - could go either way 🤷🏻♂️
I have a late version (type 15?). The amount of work to sharpen the irons was surprising, they are extremely hard!!! They hold an edge for eternity it would seem. Hope that helps 😀
On my type 6: Why is there a notch by the "B" casting? It's centered, and looks like a factory notch.
Mine is a complete type 6. A bit dirty, handles need to be refinished, but it works great.
Do you have any stanley#71 router parts for sale? Interested in a depth gauge for plane I purchased on e-bay type #7- throat closing attachment
Email me at jplanefun@gmail.com and I’ll check the stash
Cool. Thank you. Now I know I have a type 1. I didn't think the patent date meant anything.
Type 1s are pretty uncommon for sure
Where can I get that book
Maybe try eBay? Or if you’re on FB, try Can I Have It Auction Group. Or anywhere online that sells books - Abe Books maybe?
How can I get parts for the type 11 1941?
If you’re on Facebook, find me there @Just Plane Fun - the parts division.
Or email me at jplanefun@gmail.com
Thanks and awesome videos by the way! Lots of good information 👍
Thank you.
Thank You for watching
Great information, but why HDR mode? It's hurting my eyes.
Is it bad that I don’t even look at those settings when I upload? 😬
@@justplanefun well, oversight happens. I get it. It's just that TH-cam dims parts of the screen to draw the attention to the video. It makes the video super bright and little too jarring.
I know mine is a type 15, and it has nasty plastic handle. Plus I've got a Record copy of a 71 and a 71 1/2
Record made some nice planes - they blatantly copied Stanley but hey, if you want to compete with the best… 😅
The router collector Xd u da man
You da man! I’m just the man who knows the man!
Another Stanley 71 1/2 copy was made by Carter in Australia. Only difference was one groove on the base for the fence.
Do you have one? If so I’d love to see some pics of it