This is simply the best example why plugins will never sound like hardware. This cover is great but it sounds totally empty-flat, without the warm and unique three-dimensional depth, only hardware circuitry can deliver. I was about to sell my Roland JV-1080, because I liked the emulation a lot. But after a direct comparison, it shows the huge difference. Also keep in mind, real hardware has real value, which plugins don't have and never will.
hi @jeremyjohnson7676 : I live in france and i cover some music of Jean Michel JARRE , your comment is very useful because most of my covers sounds very very amateur , like Bontempi , and with comment like yours i do use filters , but you are right , a home PC stay a home PC .
Or maybe because the original recording was produced by one of the most famous producers of all time, Quincy Jones, and had professionals working on the track at every stage of the process. While this version was made by some dude in his bedroom.
I think you are being unfairly harsh. It is not just some "analogue magic" - it's also millions of dollars, tape, a thousand details that a cover could never unpack and copy. Plugins DO have all the magic you could ever want, you just need to know how to apply it. I'm not saying that old hardware didn't have a "sound" just that there is more to it than that. You could recreate the song on all the original gear and it would still miss the magic!
You also need a replica of the linndrum and roland tr 808 for the drum machine sample it make the track more beefy i have a reason rack extension that use a replica of the Linndrum and also for the tr 808 clap and hit hat, also the yamaha CS 80 was use during the thriller session same for the fm sound of the synclavier , Anthony Marinelli show how crazy was the amount of layering they use for a track like this.
@@Meteotrance Agree! All drums in this arrangement are samples from the source (Linn LM-1 and Roland TR-808). Anthony had special e-proms installed in the Linn machine with samples from the 808. Where (or if) the CS-80 where used on the song Thriller isn’t revealed (as far as I know)? But furthermore used on f.e. Billie Jean. Synclavier is also used a lot on the album.
Thank you for your interest! Yes, that’s correct I only sell these presets in different preset packages with circa 10 songs per pack. This is due to all web administration selling every song separately. You find Thriller in preset package Hits 77-85. www.teckerbeats.com/product-page/hits-of-the-80s-1977-1985-part-2
@@jangayen! Thanks in advance. There's no hurry. Strangely there's finally access to my GMX again (without need of an ID card) after I've reinsert the SIM in a different phone.
I use Logic Pro X (10.7). And my purpose here is to recreate the sound on the virtual synths (Arturia) as close to the original as possible, following the head synth programmer for Thriller - Anthony Marinellis guides. I know a put my chin out saying it is a recreation of the original recording. There’s no extra mixing/mastering done here with million dollar studio equipment, no Quincy Jones or above all, regarding mixing, no Bruce Swedien (head mixing/mastering engineer). And of course they layered and mixed down lots of vocal, guitar and synth stems/tracks. Lots of the synths were recorded live by Greg Phillinganes. They used sequencer as well (Synclavier), but most parts were played live. My arrangement lacks a lot of that “live feeling”. I have quantised all tracks, due to my lack of Greg P playing skills☺️.
The point here is only to explain which synths, drums and effects where used and how the sounds where made on them. Not to produce everything correct.☺️ By the way the studio producer Bruce Swedien was from Sweden just like me🇸🇪
@@jangayen That's cool, but on some synths you're wrong. The Thriller Bass was JP-8, i mean you get a lot closer, for the lead they also used JP-8, the Theremin is NOT JP-8 it's Arp 2600. The fact that Bruce Swedien has swedish parents is cool and good to know, but it's unnecessary.
It's not the plug-ins it's the producer
They layered like five lines on the bass alone!
I like it, you did a great job! ♥♪♪
Thank you!🙏
@@jangayen ♪♪
Great work as always my friend!
This is simply the best example why plugins will never sound like hardware. This cover is great but it sounds totally empty-flat, without the warm and unique three-dimensional depth, only hardware circuitry can deliver. I was about to sell my Roland JV-1080, because I liked the emulation a lot. But after a direct comparison, it shows the huge difference. Also keep in mind, real hardware has real value, which plugins don't have and never will.
hi @jeremyjohnson7676 : I live in france and i cover some music of Jean Michel JARRE , your comment is very useful because most of my covers sounds very very amateur , like Bontempi , and with comment like yours i do use filters , but you are right , a home PC stay a home PC .
Or maybe because the original recording was produced by one of the most famous producers of all time, Quincy Jones, and had professionals working on the track at every stage of the process. While this version was made by some dude in his bedroom.
I think you are being unfairly harsh. It is not just some "analogue magic" - it's also millions of dollars, tape, a thousand details that a cover could never unpack and copy. Plugins DO have all the magic you could ever want, you just need to know how to apply it. I'm not saying that old hardware didn't have a "sound" just that there is more to it than that. You could recreate the song on all the original gear and it would still miss the magic!
Let this version get rearranged by a team of industry professionals and mixed by one as well. It’ll sound the same.
@@bond1_mjblosserLol we’re giving Quincy way too much credit in the wrong areas. If we’re talking vocal arrangement then yes give Quincy props..
That sounds great. I would love to hear some parts with the late great Vincent Price in there too. Great work Jan 👏
This is so awesome!!!!
This is awesome!
👏 Thank you, man! That is such a nice job and kudos for sharing 😃
The Bass was a Jupiter 8
the bass sound is not an arp 2600, somehow anthony is wrong but the bass is actually a jupiter 8
How you know that?
Nice recreation Jan.....I like the way you ve broken down everything!! You've deconstructed and reconstructed this of music to a Tee!
🙏Thank you 🙏
I love it!!!!
Good work, nice breakdown of the track !
Dear Jan. Great Arturia Demo!
Thank you Chris!!🙏
How did you get Logic to look like that?
Open the instrument to view it and the track editor to see chords and notes.
Nice
Excellent recreation!
🙏Thank you!
Very nice!!
Sound's off ..but it's good.!
Turn it on!🤣
@@jangayen 😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼
Brilliant as usual but you have an incorrect URL in description pointing to your site. The letter s is missing off the end of teckerbeats.
Thank you for your observation. I have fixed it now🙏
You also need a replica of the linndrum and roland tr 808 for the drum machine sample it make the track more beefy i have a reason rack extension that use a replica of the Linndrum and also for the tr 808 clap and hit hat, also the yamaha CS 80 was use during the thriller session same for the fm sound of the synclavier , Anthony Marinelli show how crazy was the amount of layering they use for a track like this.
@@Meteotrance Agree! All drums in this arrangement are samples from the source (Linn LM-1 and Roland TR-808). Anthony had special e-proms installed in the Linn machine with samples from the 808. Where (or if) the CS-80 where used on the song Thriller isn’t revealed (as far as I know)? But furthermore used on f.e. Billie Jean. Synclavier is also used a lot on the album.
i really want to buy it but can't find a buy button only 80's packs...
Thank you for your interest! Yes, that’s correct I only sell these presets in different preset packages with circa 10 songs per pack. This is due to all web administration selling every song separately. You find Thriller in preset package Hits 77-85.
www.teckerbeats.com/product-page/hits-of-the-80s-1977-1985-part-2
very cool!
Amazing Work...
you did great 👏🏼
great job !!!
WAOUHHH !!! 👏👏👏👏
Nice
Great
the midi file that sounds like the midi file
Aaah yes, I wish I could play like Greg Phillinganes ☺
Well done!
Thanks Gerald, write to you soon!
@@jangayen! Thanks in advance. There's no hurry. Strangely there's finally access to my GMX again (without need of an ID card) after I've reinsert the SIM in a different phone.
def sounds alike like the demo
Very cool!
🎹🎵🎸🎹🎤🎧👍👍 It's Close To Midnight on My Keyboard
Very cool, thanks a lot.
Do you have a Casio mt-60 or is that a sample Anthony put out?
Great work !!!
Thank you! The frog sound is a sample from TH-cam😊
Excelente!
Sounds good but inevitably plug-in recreations always sound like karaoke to me.
Which daw is this?
I use Logic Pro X (10.7). And my purpose here is to recreate the sound on the virtual synths (Arturia) as close to the original as possible, following the head synth programmer for Thriller - Anthony Marinellis guides. I know a put my chin out saying it is a recreation of the original recording. There’s no extra mixing/mastering done here with million dollar studio equipment, no Quincy Jones or above all, regarding mixing, no Bruce Swedien (head mixing/mastering engineer). And of course they layered and mixed down lots of vocal, guitar and synth stems/tracks. Lots of the synths were recorded live by Greg Phillinganes. They used sequencer as well (Synclavier), but most parts were played live. My arrangement lacks a lot of that “live feeling”. I have quantised all tracks, due to my lack of Greg P playing skills☺️.
@@jangayen Thank you for the detailed description. It was a really nice cover!
Job the good)) You very nice blogger happy life of lucky😂👏
❤
This sounds nothing like Michael Jackson's Thriller, maybe the live version from 1988. BUT NOT THE ORIGINAL
The point here is only to explain which synths, drums and effects where used and how the sounds where made on them. Not to produce everything correct.☺️ By the way the studio producer Bruce Swedien was from Sweden just like me🇸🇪
@@jangayen That's cool, but on some synths you're wrong. The Thriller Bass was JP-8, i mean you get a lot closer, for the lead they also used JP-8, the Theremin is NOT JP-8 it's Arp 2600. The fact that Bruce Swedien has swedish parents is cool and good to know, but it's unnecessary.
@@theoleistner9513please read the video description and then send a mail to Anthony and tell him😜
This is basically my problem with vst plugins, this lack of depth.
Justin Bieber sorry versión purpose tour plz
@@IsaiAI1 Thanks for the suggestion, but my focus is on hits from the 80s.😎
The bass is good. The rest sounds like midi.
Sounds like midi?🤔😝
Arturia plugins sound so lifeless…
not accurate parties... guitar lick, for example
True, that is played on keyboard using samples from my Fender Strat. Besides that, it could have been more variated and groovy (accurate) 😎
wow!!! music awesome!!!!!! but the sfx suck tho...
Didn’t use any SFX more than EQ and the synths inbuilt effects. No mastering or studiomixing done☺️
Sorry, not so clóset 👎
This was producer.. not plug in.. !!