Joel: I am from that "other generation" that told you being gay would ruin your life/career. I only ever saw you with Lia, but I pretty much guessed you are gay. So. That is your business. Not all of us old boomers are stodgy and judgmental. Since then I have followed your vlog fairly regularly and only happened on this one of Keegan's becasue it came up in my suggestion column after watching one of yours. I love you two guys together and am happy for you both.
I just read a comment about how much happier Joel seems since he’s met you. I totally agree. It’s very apparent. I loved this video. I think this kind of dialogue can really help people.
I always knew my son was gay since he was very little. So, when he was in 11th grade in high school I asked him and he told me yes that was in 2007. I told him is I just want him to be happy. He's been with his partner since 2008, the second week of college.
Listening to the two of you, is giving me the motivation to do something for myself..after working 12 hours a day and been 62 yrs old is hard to find that motivation. I feel that motivation now listening to yourconversation....I will stop finding excuses and make the time totake care of my physical aparece and eventually become more confident about myself...Thank You....I have seen uncountable youtub exercise videos but didn't give me that sparkle but you guys are so normal and dedicated the project me motivation...keep showing who you are..it is a wake up call for me..thanks to the two of you
Joel, this podcast interview made me like and appreciate you even more. ❤️ I love that you don’t try to fit in to a certain group or “type”, you’re just you. I think more people need to see and hear that, it would help build the confidence of so many. And your comment that “only you control the sharing of your sexuality” was so powerful, because that is so true, especially for someone like you, who is in the public eye. Thanks for being you, and encouraging us all to be true to ourselves. ❤️❤️❤️
I remember seeing Joel's coming out video and him mentioning how he didn't want to be part of the gay community despite being gay. I feel like this interview captures that feeling without the rawness of the moment for Joel. A good open conversation. Stan Joel Wood, my favorite old lady gay youtuber.
Love this , so important to share and make it easier for those, going through a difficult time, coming out, being excepted, self Love ect. Thx guys, 😍 you both. Xxxx
Brilliant interview. I think Joel speaks for a lot of gays when he says he doesn’t fit in as I think that’s how most of us feel. It used to be you got out to a gay bar and everyone was in there and we didn’t have these mini groups, sure they were there but it was more mixed. I’ve been a follower of Keegan for a while so started following Joel, glad you’ve found someone who comes across as genuinely nice. Also Keegan you are clearly a caring person and that shows in this interview. I’ve been with my husband now for 22 years, keep going boys as it flys by!Looking amazing both.
This was an outstanding interview. Always love Joel and have so much respect for him. Keegan, great interview! You have a very good style of interviewing.
This was a great interview. Joel is so down-to-earth and has a great view of what his career as a content creator really means. On a side note, the poor pups outside just want to come in and play!
My name is Chris and I am with my partner almost 20 years/ We were both in the closet and given up on ever living an authentic life then we met and everything changed. But we don't fit the stereo type at all and feel strange. You two are the closest I ever came to having the same feelings ideas and interests. Its just off the scale how similar we are in outlook and aspirations and how we deal with family and friends and generally being Gay as a being that is unique to you. In one sense we are a boring couple but on another we love life and concerts and events and going out. I lost track of my gym life because I went to college when my life work changed. I got a bad back and had to adapt but I left part of my soul in the gym. I used to feel alive after the gym and I was fitter and looked better and felt better. You are inspiring us. You give us hope. We were giving up. By the way I love baking bread and little things too. You are so genuine and authentic and I know because we have been desperately looking for this in the gay world in our area. People like you who are trying to be themselves and navigate life and trying to keep an openness to change and difference while at the same time accepting who you are and being at peace with it and not agonising over being who you are in dealing with this life and how we fit into it. Thanks so much. I found this today on our Gay Pride week. I didnt feel good about it because as I commented under your video Keegan I felt it didn't represent us and its was so disheartening. But both of you have given me such hope and I know we are not alone in feeling unsure of what it means to be a gay man in 2023. Thank you both for this great honest video.
Joel loved this interview, I am a subscriber to your utube channels, have been for quite some time and I enjoyed hearing about your prospective on your job, life and relationships.
I came out later in life and I too do not fit into any gay subgroup. I appreciate all the diversity in the LGBTQ+ community. But I am a social introvert and prefer one on one or small group interactions. Loved the Podcast with you both and I am so happy to discover you are now dating each other. Much love guys! ❤❤
Wow this was a beautiful amazing interview and Keegan you were magnificent in conducting the interview and Joel the things you talked about yourself was heartwarming so * well done fellows * love you guys 💙
I enjoyed this. I didn't know you had a podcast Keegan, I'm one of the people that know who you are because of Joel 🙂. I followed you on here, so I will go back and watch all of the old episodes.
Great interview! I can definitely relate to not fitting in with a certain tribe of gays, and I like that about myself. People are too complex and should identify with their individuality before anything else. Great talk - enjoyed it!
Love this video! It´s so nice to hear these different experiences. I´ve always been "out" even when working in a very "heterosexual" medium like the pinball world...I feel somehow more related to Keegan in this aspect. But I´ve been always open about my life. And I know some guys said "oh...are going to work with Marcelo? Do you know he´s gay, don´t you". And for me that wasn´t too much of a hasle...as stupid people run away by themselves. Anyway is kind of sad...as nobody says "Oh, you´re going to work with this guy! Do you know he´s straight?"
Aww. This was a lovely interview. I kept wondering if y'all were already dating or if you met each other here?? Either way, this was great. Thank you, both.
DEFINITELY dating and Keegan certainly joined Joel's group of gay "old women" without protest. 🤣They are both great vloggers individually. Vlogging together they are also brilliant. There hasn't been a better, more telegenic, more hilarious pair to watch than Patsy and "Eddie" aka Edwina - "Absolutely Fabulous" on Brit TV starting way back in 1992 (Joel's birth year❓)
Keegan and Joel never heard of you guys before until you appears (Joel) on my insta feed. What incredibly men you are. I have a faith and always been told being gay is wrong. Whilst I’m not gay myself, I’ve learnt over many years not to judge and leave other folks to live the life they want. I’ve no idea whether some folk are born like ‘they will be gay’ (sorry wasn’t sure how to phrase that sorry). As a gay Christian Joel that’s not for anyone else to have an opinion on. I want to say to you both thanks for sharing. I’ve always pondered why anyone who is gay has to ‘come out’. I guess not living your life I understand. However you got yourselves a new follower. I just wanna say be proud of who you are, your achievements and for educating me. Be blessed ❤🎉
It is great to hear your story Joel about wearing the baggy t-shirt at Halloween, When I was at my largest (18 stone)I used to get called Shrek - mainly because I was unhappy grumpy and am Scottish - So people thought I was Shrek. I used it to my benefit in that I went out and lost the weight and got myself down to 13 stone and called it my Shrek Shrinks diet. Some friends were appalled that someone had called me that and others that I was using it to lose weight. It's not that I wasn't trying before it just gave me that little bit of extra kick and motivation to do it. It didn't help though as I was still unhappy because I was seeking some sort of perfection that doesn't exist. I didn't think that I had lost enough. I wanted to lose more. I didn't need to as I was starting to look emancipated. What did surprise me was going out on the 'scene' and then people who wouldn't give me the time of day before wanted to speak to me or to come shake my hand to talk to me. I was still the same person than before but I suppose I was more desirable and could be seen in photos etc as they are so focused on image. I have yo-yo weight and just like being gay, I have come to terms with it alongside that perfection doesn't exist. Thanks both for bringing this all these subjects to life and doing it and showing that we all face the same issues no matter how we identify.
I have been watching Joel and Lia for awhile now and I’m surprised that Joel had to “come out”, so to speak, because I automatically assume he was a gay man. I really enjoy watching their videos and his sexuality never really plays a part in their channel as far as I’m concerned. Joel, it really isn’t anyone’s business what your sexuality is. If you lost friends or subscribers because you “came out”, well you are better off without them. You are God’s child and He loves us all.
Joel was trying so hard not to lunge for his crotch. Hilarious. The most "restrained" I've ever seen him on camera. You could tell his mind was racing.
Listening to this, Joel says some of his friends were upset that he didn’t tell them he was gay. They found out from his coming out video on TH-cam. That no one is entitled to that information. But, if they’re your friends, aren’t they entitled to your honesty? To your truth? If I was friends with someone, and I didn’t tell them I am gay, is that friend really your friend? To me, friends and family are the ones who are actually entitled to your truth. Without it, they don’t really know you. The real you, and to me, that’s not real friendship. When I was in high school or in my 20’s, and I made a TH-cam video about me coming out, and I hadn’t told them first, they would have been really upset too. I would be upset myself, if someone made a huge announcement about themselves online, without talking to me first. Like, you think I’m just a nobody? I’m just one of your TH-cam subscribers? I don’t know, this isn’t me trolling, or trying to start something. It’s just my opinion. Maybe if Joel reads this, he can see why some of his friends got upset. Another point of view 🙂
Joel is pretty much an entitled narcissist. He won't read your post, much less comment. Plus, he looks like he was in a friggin trance throughout the interview with this stud. Lol.
I don't think there's a right or wrong way to come out. We all have (or had) to do whatever felt/feels right to us in the circumstances. I think it's noble to aim to gay it forward by being so honest and vulnerable. What a shame you chose to spoil that by being so unobjectively nasty for no good reason at all.
@@ericgutierrez2936 Actually noone is entitled to know that personal stuff about you not even family, you say it on your terms stop telling people what to do, and Keegan is Joels boyfriend FYI
It is so apparent how much happier Joel is since he met you! I am so happy for both of you!
Joel: I am from that "other generation" that told you being gay would ruin your life/career. I only ever saw you with Lia, but I pretty much guessed you are gay. So. That is your business. Not all of us old boomers are stodgy and judgmental. Since then I have followed your vlog fairly regularly and only happened on this one of Keegan's becasue it came up in my suggestion column after watching one of yours. I love you two guys together and am happy for you both.
Wow, Keegan is incredibly self aware as well as being so sporty and hunky. Great to see a deeper side to Joel as well!
I just read a comment about how much happier Joel seems since he’s met you. I totally agree. It’s very apparent.
I loved this video. I think this kind of dialogue can really help people.
I always knew my son was gay since he was very little. So, when he was in 11th grade in high school I asked him and he told me yes that was in 2007. I told him is I just want him to be happy. He's been with his partner since 2008, the second week of college.
You two are so cute together & a real inspiration for younger gay guys.
Listening to the two of you, is giving me the motivation to do something for myself..after working 12 hours a day and been 62 yrs old is hard to find that motivation. I feel that motivation now listening to yourconversation....I will stop finding excuses and make the time totake care of my physical aparece and eventually become more confident about myself...Thank You....I have seen uncountable youtub exercise videos but didn't give me that sparkle but you guys are so normal and dedicated the project me motivation...keep showing who you are..it is a wake up call for me..thanks to the two of you
Joel, this podcast interview made me like and appreciate you even more. ❤️ I love that you don’t try to fit in to a certain group or “type”, you’re just you. I think more people need to see and hear that, it would help build the confidence of so many. And your comment that “only you control the sharing of your sexuality” was so powerful, because that is so true, especially for someone like you, who is in the public eye. Thanks for being you, and encouraging us all to be true to ourselves. ❤️❤️❤️
I remember seeing Joel's coming out video and him mentioning how he didn't want to be part of the gay community despite being gay. I feel like this interview captures that feeling without the rawness of the moment for Joel. A good open conversation. Stan Joel Wood, my favorite old lady gay youtuber.
Love this , so important to share and make it easier for those, going through a difficult time, coming out, being excepted, self Love ect. Thx guys, 😍 you both. Xxxx
Great conversation.
And the tension is fabulous.
Joe always looks like he wants to reach across at any moment and kiss Keegan.
Love this awareness
Thank you Joel and Keegan. You are definitely helping me and so many people with your words, attitudes and experience.
Brilliant interview. I think Joel speaks for a lot of gays when he says he doesn’t fit in as I think that’s how most of us feel. It used to be you got out to a gay bar and everyone was in there and we didn’t have these mini groups, sure they were there but it was more mixed. I’ve been a follower of Keegan for a while so started following Joel, glad you’ve found someone who comes across as genuinely nice. Also Keegan you are clearly a caring person and that shows in this interview. I’ve been with my husband now for 22 years, keep going boys as it flys by!Looking amazing both.
You guys have excellent chemistry✌
You two are awesome together. I enjoy your personality. Please keep them coming.
Love you Joe and for having this open and honest conversation, it was really positive and I hope it helps a lot of people.🌈❤️
This was an outstanding interview. Always love Joel and have so much respect for him. Keegan, great interview! You have a very good style of interviewing.
This was a great interview. Joel is so down-to-earth and has a great view of what his career as a content creator really means. On a side note, the poor pups outside just want to come in and play!
My name is Chris and I am with my partner almost 20 years/ We were both in the closet and given up on ever living an authentic life then we met and everything changed. But we don't fit the stereo type at all and feel strange. You two are the closest I ever came to having the same feelings ideas and interests. Its just off the scale how similar we are in outlook and aspirations and how we deal with family and friends and generally being Gay as a being that is unique to you. In one sense we are a boring couple but on another we love life and concerts and events and going out. I lost track of my gym life because I went to college when my life work changed. I got a bad back and had to adapt but I left part of my soul in the gym. I used to feel alive after the gym and I was fitter and looked better and felt better. You are inspiring us. You give us hope. We were giving up. By the way I love baking bread and little things too. You are so genuine and authentic and I know because we have been desperately looking for this in the gay world in our area. People like you who are trying to be themselves and navigate life and trying to keep an openness to change and difference while at the same time accepting who you are and being at peace with it and not agonising over being who you are in dealing with this life and how we fit into it. Thanks so much. I found this today on our Gay Pride week. I didnt feel good about it because as I commented under your video Keegan I felt it didn't represent us and its was so disheartening. But both of you have given me such hope and I know we are not alone in feeling unsure of what it means to be a gay man in 2023. Thank you both for this great honest video.
Loved seeing the dogs in the background..it looked like Ava was there?
Joel loved this interview, I am a subscriber to your utube channels, have been for quite some time and I enjoyed hearing about your prospective on your job, life and relationships.
Look at those power legs on Keegan! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah wow😊
Joel is awesome! 😊❤️ Great conversation! Thank you for sharing!
I came out later in life and I too do not fit into any gay subgroup. I appreciate all the diversity in the LGBTQ+ community. But I am a social introvert and prefer one on one or small group interactions. Loved the Podcast with you both and I am so happy to discover you are now dating each other. Much love guys! ❤❤
Best of luck to both of you!! You are both great guys.
Wow this was a beautiful amazing interview and Keegan you were magnificent in conducting the interview and Joel the things you talked about yourself was heartwarming so * well done fellows * love you guys 💙
♥️ Joel is great. He keeps it real, shows that we all have ups and downs and is able to manage his goals and still have some things he enjoys.
I enjoyed this. I didn't know you had a podcast Keegan, I'm one of the people that know who you are because of Joel 🙂. I followed you on here, so I will go back and watch all of the old episodes.
Love this just seen it for the first time. Really enjoyed it..looking forward to following..hugs to you both. 🏳️🌈❤️
Great interview!
I can definitely relate to not fitting in with a certain tribe of gays, and I like that about myself. People are too complex and should identify with their individuality before anything else. Great talk - enjoyed it!
Love this video! It´s so nice to hear these different experiences. I´ve always been "out" even when working in a very "heterosexual" medium like the pinball world...I feel somehow more related to Keegan in this aspect. But I´ve been always open about my life. And I know some guys said "oh...are going to work with Marcelo? Do you know he´s gay, don´t you". And for me that wasn´t too much of a hasle...as stupid people run away by themselves. Anyway is kind of sad...as nobody says "Oh, you´re going to work with this guy! Do you know he´s straight?"
Aww. This was a lovely interview. I kept wondering if y'all were already dating or if you met each other here?? Either way, this was great. Thank you, both.
DEFINITELY dating and Keegan certainly joined Joel's group of gay "old women" without protest. 🤣They are both great vloggers individually. Vlogging together they are also brilliant. There hasn't been a better, more telegenic, more hilarious pair to watch than Patsy and "Eddie" aka Edwina - "Absolutely Fabulous" on Brit TV starting way back in 1992 (Joel's birth year❓)
Coming out is a continuous process. It never really ends, unfortunately. The society we live in makes this process necessary.
I agree with you Joel, it is your choice to come out the way you want to!!
I’m LOVING THIS!!
Keegan and Joel never heard of you guys before until you appears (Joel) on my insta feed. What incredibly men you are. I have a faith and always been told being gay is wrong. Whilst I’m not gay myself, I’ve learnt over many years not to judge and leave other folks to live the life they want. I’ve no idea whether some folk are born like ‘they will be gay’ (sorry wasn’t sure how to phrase that sorry). As a gay Christian Joel that’s not for anyone else to have an opinion on. I want to say to you both thanks for sharing. I’ve always pondered why anyone who is gay has to ‘come out’. I guess not living your life I understand. However you got yourselves a new follower. I just wanna say be proud of who you are, your achievements and for educating me. Be blessed ❤🎉
What a great interview, love Joel and love more you’re a couple ❤
You are a big inspiration for us Guys ,!! I love you as a beautiful couple..... And Keegan, keep the good work and amazing videos 😘
It is great to hear your story Joel about wearing the baggy t-shirt at Halloween, When I was at my largest (18 stone)I used to get called Shrek - mainly because I was unhappy grumpy and am Scottish - So people thought I was Shrek. I used it to my benefit in that I went out and lost the weight and got myself down to 13 stone and called it my Shrek Shrinks diet. Some friends were appalled that someone had called me that and others that I was using it to lose weight. It's not that I wasn't trying before it just gave me that little bit of extra kick and motivation to do it. It didn't help though as I was still unhappy because I was seeking some sort of perfection that doesn't exist. I didn't think that I had lost enough. I wanted to lose more. I didn't need to as I was starting to look emancipated. What did surprise me was going out on the 'scene' and then people who wouldn't give me the time of day before wanted to speak to me or to come shake my hand to talk to me. I was still the same person than before but I suppose I was more desirable and could be seen in photos etc as they are so focused on image.
I have yo-yo weight and just like being gay, I have come to terms with it alongside that perfection doesn't exist.
Thanks both for bringing this all these subjects to life and doing it and showing that we all face the same issues no matter how we identify.
Keegan where did you get that tshirt? Super cool.
The only thing I can say. Refreshing conversation!
I have been watching Joel and Lia for awhile now and I’m surprised that Joel had to “come out”, so to speak, because I automatically assume he was a gay man. I really enjoy watching their videos and his sexuality never really plays a part in their channel as far as I’m concerned. Joel, it really isn’t anyone’s business what your sexuality is. If you lost friends or subscribers because you “came out”, well you are better off without them. You are God’s child and He loves us all.
Hello from Cape Town 🇿🇦. Great channel! Definitely subscribing to see what's next.
Hey were you guys going out at the time of this video?
I want turkish translation in your videos. Please! 🙏 Will you do this? Love from İstanbul. ♥️🧿🧿
love Joel.
Make the 1 min intro a vid of you talking instead of a still title card.
Good talk you two
You two are lovely🥰
I'm sorry, I loved the interview but the romantic tension here is impossible to ignore. And I am here for it!
what size is Keegan's dog?, small, medium, large, etc.
Fellow old lady gay here. love the intentional slow living ❤️
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Great interview
Great interview 😊
Sorry to lower the tone but this camera angle looks great on you Keegan 👌🏾🔥😅
Were you guys dating at this point?
just you have 863 subscribers? ..... this channel needs more
Keegan, where did you get your t-shirt, I want it?
I love the shirt as well, let us know something about it
was this your first meeting with each other? ...so much has happened since...
It saddens me to see young gays feel pressured to fit into a category. This conversation was great, reassuring, and confidence building to everyone.😊
Yay, Joel! 💞😁
Joel was trying so hard not to lunge for his crotch. Hilarious. The most "restrained" I've ever seen him on camera. You could tell his mind was racing.
That is his boyfriend..
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You can only find the "old woman gays" across the pond. LOL, I'm just kidding. This was great Keegan.
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Like Joel I haven't have gay friends, I think it doesn't matter while you enjoy and have great life day to day.
joel,you were very handsome even when youvwere heavier. Pay no attention to haters, hate is all they have. Love from Boston USA
Aw you tow are so cute together. Ava, I know that you are cute, and you love your dad but, let your daddy talk to the nice man.
A stone is a unit of weight equal to 14 pounds. I had to look it up, again.
@21:30 😆
Listening to this, Joel says some of his friends were upset that he didn’t tell them he was gay. They found out from his coming out video on TH-cam. That no one is entitled to that information. But, if they’re your friends, aren’t they entitled to your honesty? To your truth? If I was friends with someone, and I didn’t tell them I am gay, is that friend really your friend? To me, friends and family are the ones who are actually entitled to your truth. Without it, they don’t really know you. The real you, and to me, that’s not real friendship. When I was in high school or in my 20’s, and I made a TH-cam video about me coming out, and I hadn’t told them first, they would have been really upset too. I would be upset myself, if someone made a huge announcement about themselves online, without talking to me first. Like, you think I’m just a nobody? I’m just one of your TH-cam subscribers? I don’t know, this isn’t me trolling, or trying to start something. It’s just my opinion. Maybe if Joel reads this, he can see why some of his friends got upset. Another point of view 🙂
Joel is pretty much an entitled narcissist. He won't read your post, much less comment. Plus, he looks like he was in a friggin trance throughout the interview with this stud. Lol.
Why make Joel’s way of coming out be about you, it should be about him.
No one is entitled to hear another person's coming out story. It is up to the one who is coming out who they tell and when.
I don't think there's a right or wrong way to come out. We all have (or had) to do whatever felt/feels right to us in the circumstances. I think it's noble to aim to gay it forward by being so honest and vulnerable. What a shame you chose to spoil that by being so unobjectively nasty for no good reason at all.
@@ericgutierrez2936 Actually noone is entitled to know that personal stuff about you not even family, you say it on your terms stop telling people what to do, and Keegan is Joels boyfriend FYI
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It’s nobody’s business your private dating life (period)
I see a certain spaniel who wants to come in Joel 😉
Not Ava being jealous that her dad is paying attention to someone else that is not her. LOL. She is so cute.
Joel I'm an old gay granny
Sort the sound and you'll see more subscribers.
How many guys are imagining them boffing?
None older than 12.
I think Keegan is a bottom
🙄 Really