Grading The 2020 NFL Draft 4 Years Later (Picks 17-32)
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A- grade for Jordan Love is Wild. Dude qas PFF's best QB in the second half of the season after MLF opened up the playbook and got back his best RB and best receiver back in Aaron Jones and Christian Watson, in his first season starting. You're comparing him to hypotheticals and even IFFF they get one SB qith Rodgers, you potentially lose 2-3 SB's qith Love and potentially a GOAT type QB. An A- is a dumb grade. This grade should be an A+ as Love just had the best QBR and QB rating in his first playoff game ever. BOOM
Classy move to not grade Gladney. He was a human who had flaws but still a super young guy. RIP
God bless!! Jesus Christ is the way and saves! Psalms 62✝🤍💪 Jeremiah 29:11✝💪🤍
@@Kyle22oiferAmen brother ✊🏿💯🙏
"She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose semen was like that of horses." Ezekiel 23:20
The Jordan Love pick was clowned so hard for so long. I'm not even a Packers fan but I'm so happy that he played so well, just so it would prove everyone wrong
They could have gotten him in the 2nd
it was a big slap in the face to Aaron Rodgers, might have actually won another Super Bowl if they do take Tee, not even Belicheck would draft a QB in the first round, and he wanted to move on from Brady several times
@@user-ez8jd5et9v Doesn't seem likely to me. They would have had to wait until the 62nd pick to get to their own 2nd rounder. Plus they felt like they had to trade up from 30 to secure him -- maybe they knew another team also wanted him and was worried they'd be jumped if they stayed at 30. And a lot of mocks had Love going in the 1st round anyway.
Ong go pack fucking go
@@Kyle-bi7dfTee Higgins was not the difference between a Super Bowl and reality for the Packers
The “Replay” of the kneel at 3:53 💀
I dont think the packers would've gotten a superbowl if they obtained Tee Higgens based on the fact that everysingle playoff game was either the fault of the defense, special teams, or aaron choking on his shit again.
sincerely,
a packers fan
Yeah I agree Aaron was great but he had a tendency to fold in the playoffs I think Green Bay kinda knew that and knew he was getting old and they wanted to risk being in contention for the next 10+ years instead of the next 2-3 years
I think you could argue in 2020 that if he was able to gain trust in Higgins maybe we don't have to dig ourselves out of a hole in the NFCCG. Who knows how that would have gone?
You be surprised by how often the playoffs losses of the Packers were not on Rodgers and actually was on the Defense and special teams. Reminds me of Kirk Cousins right now.
Agreed, think even with a WR like Higgins, Rodgers still would've favored Adams like he did imo.
Was gonna add this, a rookie tee Higgins wouldn't even get the ball anyway. Rodgers notoriously is hard on rookies. Nothing would change besides the Packers being in a bad spot right now and not set up for a good future
I really appreciate how much you show to players that passed away. Big respect
for real FA best youtuber on this side of the mississippi
God bless!! Jesus Christ is the way and saves! Psalms 62✝🤍💪 Jeremiah 29:11✝💪🤍
It’s only right, especially with him being a Vikings fan.
@@alecrechtiene558 I've watched a few videos, and he does this for all players on all teams.. not just the Vikings
@@enviidakid true
Rip Jeff Gladney man💜
Running the same highlight of a kneel down should tell you all you need to know about a first round pick. That’s wild.
WAKE UP NEW FOOTBALL ANALYSIS DROPPED
im a packers diehard fan and i was without a franchise qb for about half a year, after having 30years of 2 HoF guys. Those 6 months were awful. cant imagine how other teams feel all the time!
Love your Videos Mr. Analysis
He had one good year. He could fall off but who knows
Middle finger to all you packer fans
@@oldbean7150 thats funny. Youre funny. Loves script has already been written during favres time. In 15years he will be a Jet
@@christophszabo6447 still waiting for rodgers to come to minnesota 😘
@@ChriSX13 me too 😅 had he not bek injured and had a down year it wouldve happened. Perfect timing with kirko leaving
Another great video. It shows a lot about what sort of person and creator you are whenever you address tricky situations like Ruggs or Gladney.
Love the content, didn't even know you were a Vikings fan originially just loved the content. And it's great to see you are very fair with the Packers and others. Keep up the phenomenal work!
Football Analysis, You're amazing! I hit the like button as soon as I saw it!
Thank you so much!
Totally agree with the Jordan Love grade. It’s not quite an A+ yet but if the QB you drafted throws 30 TDs in their first year starting I’d say that’s a hit. Not only that but he won a playoff game. He wasn’t a game manager either he DOMINATED Dallas
Definitely not a F like lots of people thought
I still think an A is too high for now. They essentially sold 2020 and 2021 potential Super Bowl runs. I think they beat Tampa and the Chiefs if they get Higgins or hell even Pittman in 2020. I know I'm saying this with hindsight as when they traded up I thought they'd get Queen, but any of these people would've contributed more to a potential Super Bowl than Love did. 2021 I think they beat the Niners but that special teams unit was horrendous and it'd bite them in the ass eventually, plus overall they were just worse in 2021. Not hating on Love, he's been great and wish him all the best but I will always say it was a stupid pick, even if he turns out amazing. Always gotta try and win when you have a contender IMO.
Dominated Dallas is a reed richards level stretch
@@youngf.l.y.1467 I mean nearly 300 yards and 3 TDs and 48 pts scored what else would you call it?
@@iBandaPanda You’re right. Tee Higgins would’ve definitely made a difference in those games Imo. I think they definitely win that game against the niners in ‘21 as well. I also can’t blame them for taking their QB of the future tho.
As a packers fan, our issues in 2020 and 2021 all came down to defense and special teams. If we didn’t pick love, we probably would’ve picked Patrick queen or some other defensive player before tee Higgins. Packers never draft offense in the first round unless it’s a tackle or qb.
Was on the couch wit family while we watched CD get picked at 17. Fell in love with the pick then, and 4 years later, he has been outstanding💪🏽
Justin Jefferson's 2023 year was astounding in which he'd won NFL's Offensive player of the year👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 14:08
I think we need a video on how good is Patrick Queen actually?
That F Grade for Damon Arnette is wayyyyyy too high for him.
should be a Z
Z- perhaps
Raiders draft these wierd players early
Ferrell
Damon
Alex etc
Mad respect for the way you handled the Vikings pick. One of the many reasons I love your content
The Reagor pick still keeps me up at night.
It should 😂
Used the code! Watch you every day on lunch!!
Eagles' fan here. When it was time for our pick, i was sure we were talking JJ. I couldn't believe we passed on him.
As a birds fan the Raegor pick haunts my dreams
Crazy that we could've had jefferson or metcalf to fix the receiver problems with Wence and we got neither and replaced him with hurts. It did all work out in the end with getting smith and brown, but imagine what could've been
Pats fan and of course they didn’t draft a good wr
At least he didn’t flame out quickly like isaiah wilson, but missing on JJ is still big time
Crazy how much talent was in that 2020 draft. Only then to be comped with the number of 'relative' busts in the 2021 draft
Goat football channel
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9:44 ever since someone pointed out to me that Aiyuk looks like Mike Tomlin i just cannot unsee it.
Rip Jeff
The end of the first round is rough
I didn’t know some of those guys existed
Especially when one of them decided to throw his career away before and after his 4 snaps
Shoulda used the 4th and 18 catch vs the bills in 2022 for Jj's footage
I was so happy when we got love, caught hell for it but got the last laugh 😂
9:12 -- The thing with this (other than the question of how much Tee Higgins would have helped anyway given Rodgers' known tendencies with rookie receivers) is that I'm not at all sure that Higgins at 30 was ever a real consideration for the Packers. He just doesn't fit the model of player they like to draft, especially with premium picks (Higgins' RAS was a full point lower than the lowest RAS for any player BG has taken before Day 3). So I think the question one has to ask is, if taking Tee Higgins at 30 was off the table regardless, does the rest of the idea still hold true? I think it gets a lot murkier for sure.
Those numbers tells ya why he's unstoppable in 2023 he's awesome undeniable too 20:33
What time is it
I wondered same thing about why did the chiefs Clyde over taylor back then too .
Should have take another position
Everytime you wear a legitimate legendary #88 in NFL's History it reminds you of Tony Gonzalez with Kansas City Lynn Swann with Pittsburgh Marvin Harrison with the Colts Michael Irvin and Drew Pearson with Cowboys plain and simple 21:08
Justin Jefferson he's no question about it a real bonafide superstar for real he's electrifying of a player with speed his hands his swagger to the game especially his touchdown dance let's be honest Jefferson is and will be a future hall of famer soon but not now as long as he can stay healthy stay fully strong and positive he will be even better for sure I'm hoping that he wins a Super Bowl Ring cause he's very special 1st Round 22nd overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft out of LSU he's a national champion but he deserves an A+ I'd love watching him do what he does best on the field👍🏽💪🏽 13:33
very classy, props to you man
what about queen being in Pitt makes you think he wont do as well?
Very good reasoning on Jordan Love. I was going B+. It is not Love's fault but he has to show more than one good year for a higher grade.
Grade aside, today as I type I am happy my team does not have a gigantic ? at QB. Lookin' at you Bears.
I don’t understand the grading then because cj stroud gets an A+ when Love had a better year as first year starters
@@connerbowlen4258 CJ Stroud is a TRUE rookie. The Texans can build around him for years before paying him. Love sat for 3 years and had a great half a year. Now they have to pay our extend him soon. The A- is a good grade.
@@Alexdad84 he was bad for 4 games last year with the youngest group of players in the nfl, while scoring the most points against the chiefs out of anyone all year, destroying the lions, bears, and cowboys in the final weeks, while cj destroyed the titans, browns, and got beat badly by the jets and ravens
Jordon Love had half a good year after three years of basically not playing. I think we need a bigger sample size before we can crown him the next great packers QB. Although with how he threw away that playoff game when it mattered the most, he might very well be the next great packers QB.
Fair evaluations. The problem with not using a differentiator like A++, is, for example, equating Lamb with Jefferson.
Jalen Reagor 🤭
F-
Yes Indeed A+ for JJ18 14:58
Don’t remind me of that reagor pick. Even at the time I knew we made a horrible mistake still no idea why we drafted him even at the time everyone knew it was a huge mistake. It was another example of howie thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room
Joe Burrow: A+
Chase Young: B-
Jeff Okudah: D-
Andrew Thomas: A+
Tua Tagovailoa: A-
Justin Herbert: A+
Derrick Brown: A
Isaiah Simmons: D+
C. J. Henderson: F
Jedrick Wills: B-
Mekhi Becton: C-
Henry Ruggs: F
Tristan Wirfs: A+
Javon Kinlaw: C
Jerry Jeudy: B+
A. J. Terrell: A+
CeeDee Lamb: A+
Austin Jackson: C
Damon Arnette: F
K’Lavon Chaisson: F
Jalen Reagor: F
Justin Jefferson: A+
Kenneth Murray: D
Cesar Ruiz: B-
Brandon Aiyuk: A
Jordan Love: A-
Jordyn Brooks: B
Patrick Queen: B+
Isaiah Wilson: F
Noah Igbinoghene: F
Jeff Gladney: F
Clyde Edwards-Helaire: D+
Tee Higgins: A
Michael Pittman Jr.: A-
D’Andre Swift: A-
Xavier McKinney: B+
Kyle Dugger: A-
Yetur Gross-Matos: D
Robert Hunt: B
Ross Blacklock: F
Jonathan Taylor: A+
Laviska Shenault: C-
Cole Kmet: B+
Grant Delpit: C
Antoine Winfield Jr.: A+
K. J. Hamler: D+
Marlon Davidson: D
Darrell Taylor: C-
Chase Claypool: D
Jaylon Johnson: A
Trevon Diggs: A
Cam Akers: C-
Jalen Hurts: A+
A. J. Epenesa: B
J. K. Dobbins: C
Raekwon Davis: C
Van Jefferson: C
Ezra Cleveland: C-
Denzel Mims: F
Josh Uche: B
Kristian Fulton: B-
A. J. Dillon: C+
Willie Gay: C+
Jeremy Chinn: C+
I love Tee higgins but i dont think he would have saved greenbay, the defense and speical teams killed us. Hoping Hafley helps make that defense formidable
I love what the packeds did this off season, but i am so shocked they didnt snag queen . Xavier mckinney and Patrick queen .....man talk about a 180 turn for our defense.
Please comment on the Packers trading up to get Jordan Love.
The GB GM, Brian Gutenkunst traded picks #30 & #136 to get JL at #26.
IMO, that was done more to send a message to Aaron Rodgers - this is your replacement.
I suspect that GB could have gotten JL at #30 without trading up.
I agree
Respect the Jeff gladney spot. Was really expecting a bad grade prefaced by “no disrespect to the passed but” good shit
Texans rebuild video when?
As a packers fan I need to see a few more years with Jordan. Cause he could easily have a slump this coming up season, but the year after he could have a come back season and be better then he was this year. But it I had to to grade it I would grade Jordan Love I would say a B I need to see that he can do it again or do it better.
Reagor will go down as the worst pick in Eagles history not because he sucked so bad, but they passed on a future hall of famer the next pick in Jefferson.
As long as Jordan Love gets better year in and year out he will be the best QB in Green Bay so let's hope for the better he'll be all right 9:40
I agree with most, but I do think you need an A++ for people like Jefferson. Because IMO Aiyuk deserves an A+.
Also thanks for the PTSD of reminding me Philly chose Reagor with JJettas on the board LMAO.
Drafting a QB in the back half of the first round who wins you a playoff game against the Cowboys honestly might just be an A+ no matter what, especially in terms of value. The Tee Higgins "what if" seems like too much hypothesizing
Lmao look at how Jonathan greenard demolishes trevor penning at 11:27
Packers dont win a super bowl with tee higgins. We had other issues in the playoffs beyond WR. Love was the right pick.
Rodgers was coming off a down year for his standards and it seemed like he was slated for a big decline.
JORDAN LOVE
I hated the Jordyn Brooks pick when it happened. I think a B- is a bit to high for an average at best lienacker in the first round
Time stamps would help a lot
I told all my friends Jordan love would be good eventually when Aaron left and they clowned me.
Trevor Penn is going to be a solid tackle
with jordan love, everyone says that the packers should have drafted tee higgins bc then they’d have a super bowl ring, but then assuming everything plays out exactly as it did aside from the packers winning the super bowl, the packers likely would have been stuck with will levis last year, since they had aaron rodgers until the draft last year. i think that u much rather would have jordan over will, and thus my logic is drafting jordan is better than tee higgins
Even if the raiders picked justin jefferson, ik they would have screwed that up🤣
I knew when the packers picked Jordan love the packers weren’t going to make a dope bowl with Rodgers. He has to be an a+ but it set them back years.
Jordan Love legit ngl
CeeDee Lamb is truly a bonafide phenomenal player for the Cowboys without a doubt he's a special player one of a kind player who will do whatever it takes to be winning games make no mistake about it if he wins a Super Bowl Ring soon very soon I believe he'll be a Hall Of Famer soon too 1st Round 17th overall of a pick Oklahoma 2023 was one of the BEST if not the greatest year in franchise history he's broken Michael Irvin's records for Receptions and Receiving Yards so yes he deserves an A+ grade I love watching him play with so much confidences swagger and consistency as well 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 19:42
leave it to my raiders to draft the felons, busts, and everything in between SMH💀
Can't beat the raiders on Felon count
At least the 2 picks didn’t end up like that of the titans
Jesus, the second half of this first round was not good. WRs are a major exception but wow!
People are saying how the raiders drafted 2 first round busts, or how the eagles messed up on drafting a bust receiver over a generational one, but no one talks about the titans using their first to draft someone who only played 4 snaps and then was out of the league
One of the biggest busts
@@spidamitchell8311 At least Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell aren’t that stupid to throw their career away like that. Drafted in the first round to just play in one game, wtf is he thinking
Rip jeff
Lotta what is for the love pick lol
Switch phillys first and second round picks and reagor is still a bad pick 😂🥲
jefferson and lamb are like 1a and 1b. no arguing these were both home runs of picks
Dude I thought the 2020 class was gonna be the deepest of all time. Good draft class but my dumbass can’t be expecting everybody to be a star
Justin Jefferson is the reason I'm a Vikings fan
Respect for not grading Gladney. May he rest in peace
Don’t overthink the Love pick it’s an A+ bringing up 1 playoff game where Aaron shit the bed doesn’t change it also blocked punt
A not A+
Not A+ yet
Who in your opinion is the best #88 in Dallas Cowboys history?
CD Lamb
Michael Irvin
Drew Pearson
Dez Bryant
Packers fan here, largely agree with the grade. A- unless he repeats his last 9-10 games from last season for a full season, then A+ for sure.
Buuuut, I also want to say “aren’t we grading on a curve here?”
For example we can speculate, in hindsight, that if the Packers took Higgins they go to a Super Bowl. But we can also say that Jettas hasn’t helped the Vikings get any closer to a Super Bowl and if they drafted Love maybe they aren’t wondering who is going to throw the ball for the next 10+ years. Is lowering your window for Super Bowl for 2-3 years worth opening it for 10-15?
I just feel like if “getting you closer to a Super Bowl” is the scale then we should be giving 80% or more picks an “F”.
Love your videos btw. I only say this because I think you’ve made a channel that can handle conversation.
The cure to my hangover
CEH hip injury vs the saints his rookie year ruined his career
Tee HIggins was NEVER on the packers board. NEVER!!! He did not test the way he would have needed to for the packers to take him first round. Please at least do your research before spreading misinformation. Also the Pack were 1 David Bahktiari away from the SB not a WR.
Why not start with this instead and go 32-1 instead of 16-1, 32-17
Never underestimate the Packers' capacity to disappoint in the Playoffs
Thank god the Chiefs didn’t take Taylor in the 2024 draft if that happened we are talking about Mahomes getting his fifth superbowl because they would have beaten the Bucs if they had Taylor
I am curious about how you personally view the concept of "bust" and how much weighting you put into situation, overdrafting, medical issues and other circumstances outside the player's control that can help determine their fate you might be inclined to give.
Is the concept of "bust" actually unhelpful given that someone who has the reputation of being one, lets say Sam Darnold, is still going to have a solid career as a Back-up? Presumably "bust" should just be someone who doesn't last the rookie phase of their career, regardless of whether they are still with the same team that drafted them and they don't have a really good reason why not.
I just find it an uncomfortable idea. Maybe it is just a combination of being a girl and how I was raised, but being my inclination is always to be fair to those who didn't do well for reasons outside their control or to acknowledge reaches. I think I'd rather go with something like this:
* Elite
* Reliable Starter (anyone graded B)
* Overdrafted - average or below average player who would have been fine taken on Day 2 or Day 3 but will still fulfill a squad role (anyone you grade in the C or D tier)
* Reliable Back-up - someone whose role is to support others and is really good at that job and in whose hands you aren't scared to trust your team if you have to (Tyrod Taylor)
* Unreliable Starter with Caveat - a player who had potential but ended up in a situation that destroyed their development and they failed as a result OR that they suffered some understandable issue we should be totally sympathetic to because they couldn't help whatever went wrong. Basically that comes down to chronic injuries, serious illness or mental health crisis that prevents someone from completing a rookie contract (the guys graded Incomplete and some guys graded F).
* Practice Squad - it's still a career in football
* Bust - undeniable failure due to moral torpitude (Henry Ruggs), disinclination to play, simply not being good enough (Alex Leatherwood) or some other factor the player themselves could have done something about (Jamarcus Russell). To me it really does need to be either not enough talent so you shouldn't have been there, or something you were in-control of yourself and you didn't work hard enough at to rectify.
Jalen Reagor was not in the SEC dawg…
IVE BEEN SAYING THE CHIEFS SHOULD’VE DRAFTED TAYLOR OVER CEH SIXNE DRAFT DAY BRO
aiyuk to packers
Raiders nations
Man, I like the grades mostly but some of your opinions/and reasoning is so wildly off. Patrick Queen was starting to excel before Roquan Got to the Ravens. It’s clear to me you weren’t paying close enough attention to him implying he won’t be able to live up to 2023 Patrick Queen. His success is his. Attributing it so heavily to the Smith arrival is kinda disrespectful.
And the Aiyuk trade talk is nonsense. No one is giving a 1st round pick for Aiyuk as good as he is Tyreek Hill in his absolute prime only got the 29th pick (an incredibly late 1st rounder. Along with 2nd 2 4ths and a 6th)
3 good WRs and a whole bunch of whiffs
Stop drafting rbs early
Recent rbs who declined after the rookie contract or into the 2nd contract
Zeke
Gurley
Ronald jones
Zeke
Ajayi
Cook and many others
Just take a Rn round 2/3 or later
Thank you for your acknowledgement of Lamb being under appreciated. Speak that louder for the people on the back.
Why did I click on this I’m an eagles fan😫😫
As an Eagles fan I HATED this pick. We could have had Jefferson. Think about that
How you say what you say about Ruiz and give him a c+ my boy was trash every year. But give Murray a C-
Completely disagree with the Teehigens packer superbowl take. If you know anything about Rodgers then you know he doesnt trust rookie wrs. Rodgers would have choked again in the playoffs. Love is the future