Nostalgie mais aussi réalisme, le moteur 2 temps est plus facile à entretenir, a un rendement plus important quelque soit la cylindrée, le plus le bruit est envoûtant. À quand le retour du 2 temps, sur la route, dans les champs et sur les circuits routiers ? From France 🇨🇵
Don't forget that 81490 mako will go down in history as one of the best motorcycles ever built of all time they still race that by to this day I had three of them they are awesome
My friends brother had a CR500 and a Quadzilla. I had an 80cc 2 stroke RM80 and a 4 stroke DR100 and the only way I can describe the experience of hopping from a 80 to that 500 was terrifying. More terrifying then the first time i rode a GSXR1000 as my first street experience. He's still got the Quadzilla in pieces for the past 20yrs. I'd love to restore it. It was a blessing being born in 1981 as far as experiencing what I truly believe got to live the GOLDEN ERA for motorcycles 👍 Awesome video
At 14, I was riding a kx80, dude asked if I wanted to try his 86 atc 250r.... it changed me forever.... went on to own both a kx and cr 500. I'm old now, so on a yz 250 2t, still miss the thrills of my youth
@davidlagno7717 That's a really cool memory. I've still got an CR500 and a Quadzilla, the latter being in pieces for the last 20 years also. I took it apart to restore it, powder coated and bagged all the components, but never put it back together. Yep I'm that guy 😂
@JustPlaneNutzRC Awesome you still have them! At least you bagged it up. It can still be done. My friends parts are spread all over his garage mixed with every other bike that's been apart. It kills me because I wanna get it together so badly. It's gonna be so time consuming and aggravating. We've been talking about it all these years but no action 😆
If it hadn’t been for that seat I would probably have had a DRZ. as it was I kept the DR600 for longer then got a klr600 😊 but the drz is a reliable old thing 😊
Always loved the big bore 2 strokes. Had a PE400, IT465 and I still own a KX500. If my memory serves me correctly the PE400 had the most torque off the bottom. Fell on it's face in the midrange but could idle up a tree.
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel, hope you will look around and find something your interested in. there is more on the website too. and there will be more to come. The 250 dirt bikes are here th-cam.com/video/kcgNE9wrK5A/w-d-xo.html Cheers for watching.Hope you will climb aboard. Ride Free 🙂
Sometimes they do just get it right 😊 and yep was chatting to ctg the other day and apologising that I hadn’t been in recently. It’s been a year of early starts and early nights. But I will be there again. Soon. It’s been a tough time but I’ll get there. Pass on my best to the #GOATARMY If you would. Ride free brother 😊
I had kx500 s for 20 years or so.... The 4 stroke stuff with the increased lateral grip made me give my last one away!!! Think about that for a minute! Thanks
As a kid my brother had 490 I lost control on the 490 and got partially ran over by a cr500 that was my introduction to the mighty cr500.. Lol ✌️ Ride Free !!
I will never forget the CR500 on the tar, as you opened the throttle, the front wheel lifted, totally linear and controllable ! The KX500 was just a wild ride !!! The Maico we just stared at. The TM400 was a nice road, back roads bike. The XR500RE...what a nice enduro bike, also the XR200....these are the bikes I had experience with in my day.
I was starting to get a little concerned when I thought you were not going to show the XR500 but our favourite was the XR600 in Australia had a big cult following boy what a handful of absolute joy, the memories🙂✌️🇦🇺
They were road legal here in NZ, the dealers would fit indicators and brake light switch’s. I had a 490 for a while, it was terrible on the road, and in enduros I did far better on my IT 200.
I miss my KX 500. Bought an '87 for $900. Bought a '93 for $300. Had a nice new bike lol. Went to the track twice a week and rode desert once a month. If you want a thrilling ride get a 500.
Not a bunch of bike I'm familiar with, thanks for a great education! I was struggling to why the cagiva had such a crazy long swing arm, till someone mentioned hill climbs.👍
Glad i surprised you 😊 and yes. The reason I used Ken’s footage and comments is to reinforce what I was saying 😊 it was a mighty bike and not often you see him lost for words 😊
The big bore 2 strokes really are something! I think if one of the big manufacturers started making them again, they would sell out every single one before they could even hit the showroom floor. They're kind of like a .50 caliber handgun... are they manageable? No! Are they practical for most applications? No! Are they user friendly? No! Are they cool AF? Does everyone have that intrigue to shoot a .50 cal? YES! ABSOLUTELY!!! No army in the world would ever adopt a .50 caliber handgun as a sidearm but everyone still wants to shoot one. 65 hp is just insane on bikes that were built 30 years ago. I would love to see a manufacturer put out a big bore with all the modern tech that the bikes have now. Give them traction control, map settings, Brembo disc brakes, and quick shifters. Cmon... someone's gotta do it. Even if there wasn't even a MX class for it, I guarantee that they would sell out regardless.
It's called the tomasin r&d 500 kit. Takes a current gen crf450r chassis and bottom end. The kit turns it into a cr500 fuel injected 2 stroke. Then there's the brc 500 kits turn a yz250 current ktm 250 into a 500. Pantera 500 kits.
@@barebonesmc I say that because I would love to see 2 strokes be competitive against modern 4s in MX. They already tipped the rules in favor of the 4s. The 2s need all the bells & whistles the modern 4s have to compete as well as enough displacement to make up for the displacement disadvantage they already have. Not fair to put a 125 vs a 250 or a 250 vs a 450. Soon we’ll throw electric in the mix too. 🤯
I really liked my RM 500, I called my pogo stick on two wheels, mind you before the Suzuki I was running a Greaves Griffon, I’m getting passed my sell by date so I think the Greaves was 360cc, so the RM was amazing by comparison . Before this was my AJS 16msc I used on scrambles in the 60s . In those day I was skint I would ride anything with an engine.
@@barebonesmc nice bikes shame about those old fashioned two stroke lumps they use, I think mine had a Star Maker the name was great and the lip was rubbish.. keep up your good work and give an honourable mention The Kwaker GT550 mine still giving stromg after a many miles of abuse…👍🤓🏍️
I love the big 500 two strokes had a 1981 maaco 490 and it was badass it made me from an intermediate to a pro in one year racing in Southern California in 1995 I bought a m star 500 water-cooled mako which I still have to this day we have rode it and rode it and it still runs to this day I handed it down to my kids they wrote it I erased it awesome machine way awesome machine a sad State of affairs how the family embezzled all the money and put them bankrupt I still have a 440 mako 1974 vintage race by that I love to this day I have 65 vintage races on it b&d tuning my name is mako bill have a nice day
Great video, truly you are a "story teller" & I hope your grandchildren got a chance to hear you tell them stories on some front porch... I know I'd never forget it. We weren't a biking family as my mom hated them but we had a little two stroke by Yamaha called the YZ-80. Small w/ quite big ballz. I mention it b/c it's all I can relate to this video but I bet all of the bikes here could go straight up a wall or tree or..... anything else you came up against? You sound good Sir, thanks for taking the time & I know you're very busy. Let me know when you get back home, not important but when I'm out I'm always trying to get home again. peace & GB You/yours. cheers mate
The Lord gave us all another day to do something right..... no grandchildren, me either but it could happen as I do have a boy who's probably gonna be reckless & create one for me... lol, I waited until I was 43 to have him b/c I never wanted to have kids who weren't given everything I had to give. That said, I wasn't kidding about your storytelling ability. I'm 62 & like hearing how you speak in describing bikes of yesteryear. As for the struggles we're dealing with ; it's going pretty well which I sincerely hope you are progressing too ! I'm sure you are but it never happens fast enough. Get well & I wasn't kidding about your voice in story mode. It's good man. peace & keep us posted. Chat soon, peace & GB
Don't forget to make a video of the big 500 and 610 Husqvarna 4-stroke and the hoosen birds that set the 4-stroke world on fire they were the benchmark of what is happening right now who's lindenberg awesome machine Husqvarna 610 awesome machine Husqvarna 510 incredible by had three or four of them ran all the time very reliable handled incredibly good
as i'm watching the video i'm narrating along with you "i hated riding the cr500, yeah loved my yz490, the kx was never the king in any of my neighborhoods, yeah the suzuk was a dog" but right when i said i'd take another 71 tm400 over any of them, then like on Q a 71 tm400 popped up in the video, was the 71 tm faster then any of those other bikes, hell no, did it handle better then the other bikes, god no, the thing handled atrociously, what the 71 tm400 did better then any of those more modern bikes was, it scared the hell out of you in a way that made you want to do it again, the 71 tm was the only bike that i didn't care about not being able to win on it, the bike was such a damn adrenaline rush that there never was before or has been since another bike that was as good as doing what the 71 tm400 could, it had the right amount of horrible to make it great....
The Suzuki RM465/500 were much better bikes than you gave them credit for. And you didn't even mention the truly incredible Full Floater suspension system. When the Full Floater was introduced in 1981, it was a revalation in motocross development, it was the best suspension ever put on a bike, and continued to be the best for many years after.
The mags loved the RM 465, and gave good reviews to the 83 and 84 Rm500. They did not import the 1985 into the US and discontinued it after that year. I wished Suzuki would have developed a water cooled RM 500 in 87 or 88. The last year of their European GP team,in 1983, had a few “RN” 500 water coolers. I had a 1987 issue of Dirt Bike Magazine that said that Suzuki was going to introduce a new RM big bore, but it only turned out to be their Quadzilla in 1987. As for the FullFloater, it was one of the best monoshock designed rear suspension systems ever created and certainly the best of its time. I had a 85 RM 250, really good bike, and the rear suspension on that bike was better than the PDS on my last KTM EXC. 1985 was the last year of the original design that had linkage above and below the shock.
@@LBrawn yep but only to try it n was years ago but it was a direct cr v yz v rm n the verdict was split but all agreed the Suzuki just didn’t have the power of the others
Years ago, when I was a callow yoof, I used to go trail riding in the Cheviots. We met a guy riding a Honda CR-E 500. He was a Honda UK works rider in the British Enduro championship on his works bike. Later in the day we saw him stretching cable on a fire break trail and needless to say, the bike was a rocket. Does anybody know if Honda UK sold an enduro CR500 at the time? I can remember the bike had different graphics, with a prominent "E" but not much else.
When I was still learning to ride a bike my cousin had a Yamaha wr490… I took it for a ride around the paddock after a couple of corners I decided to give it a good twist of the throttle… all of a sudden the handlebars were at lock the the scenery going past sideways… gave it back to him and wanted one ever since…
Great story mate. Cheers for adding. I rode a mates YZ460 and spent the next 2 weeks hassling him to sell it to me. Luckily he agreed and put the money towards a 490 and then he spent the next year trying to buy back the 460 😂😂 he did even warm to the 490 but it took time 😊
@dougnemeth5249 So similar to my 1st experience. I was 13yrs old and just started learning on a RM80. My buddies older brother showed up at the sand pits with his CR500 and I wanted to ride it. Like I said in my comment the only word that comes to mind is terrifying! Couldn't nearly reach my feet to the ground and I'm bogging out up this big hill, dropped a gear and next thing I'm in flight it launched me up that hill so fast I was 20ft in the air. Dumbed his bike. But I loved it. I remember that day as the start of a life-long addiction
@@barebonesmc just an observation from what I've seen.. the RM 370 went quite hard once on power the 500 was more like a ag bike grunty with no noticable power band..
@@barebonesmc definitely the yz's had more zing the suzuki range had more grunt like a farm bike. Luckily back in the day we had a few choices and not everyone liked the zing.. l was limited by budget and ended up with a pe 250 that served me well..
I owned 3 Cagiva 500's at once. One hand grenaded the engine. One had a Bing carb, one a Del Orto. Maybe 2 were Del Orto. A 5.5 gallon tank and 2 gallon. In 1988 I drove out to Utah and went 110 miles by truck to Land Of Standing Rock area. I got on the bike and started my 35 mile ride to Standing Rock.... Made it and saw I had Half A Tank!. I had to be careful on the return... I didn't know I was getting 13mpg. So I needed 5 gallon to go aware in S E Utah. Also had a 1984 Cagiva 125. No power valve, horse power curve was like 4hp to 8000rpm and then 30 hp . It always spun the tire when the power band hit. Even if I let it come onto power real slow. Oh, and a 1986 Moto Morini 501 Camel. Not many V twin dual sports.
If you can find the comments there’s a long conversation 😊 with very mixed opinions. The ones we got just weren’t that good at all. But seems they were built by ccm here. I just never considered them to be honest but maybe should have
I know a few who might argue that 😊 I don’t think the likes of Mason Klein would have too much trouble riding us old duffers into the dust 🤣🤣🤣 if you search there’s a great interview with him on the channel. He is a diamond in the rough 😊
you're bashing the open class RM but it was the best Japanese open classer in 1981 by a long shot, and a close 2nd place in '82. Look it up in the old magazines.
you say at 2;58 that the founder of Honda ( Mr. Honda himself) had played a role in designing the CR500, certainly NOT, he was known for his HATRED of 2 strokes.
This video is bs anyways, the only year a kx500 was power king was 1983 after that the best dyno runs where 84 yz then from 85 up the cr. I own an 87 cr and an 88 kx. The honda is a blown fuel dragster compared to the kx
Yep. Discussed the can am’s a few times in comments and seems to have been viewed very differently in different markets. Apparently ccm made them here and they weren’t good at all
I never hear about the canam series bikes that were sold to Armstrong CCM, apparently armstrong dropped the dirt bike models, to bad because the canam's were a good bikes before they were sold to Armstrong, what happened to them?
They went down like a lead balloon here. Seems there were many problems and they just didn’t perform well here at all. Poss manufacturing issues with ccm maybe but I don’t know why tbh
As always I have to stop somewhere 😊 it will find its place in time 😊. Glad you enjoyed it mate. There is a 250s dirt bikes vid linked in description too😊👍 cheers for your support
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 A mate of mine bought one. He was a stunt car driver and had no interest in racing it. He just used used it off road. Said it was the best motor ever. He sold it to financepart of a deposit for a home. He regretted selling it till the day he died...(last year)
No matter what When you ever you come across a 1997 cr500 you buy it no matter what!! You can not find parts for that bike. It's like Chevy 327& 400 small blocks you can not find these anymore.when you do people want your arm and leg for it. Just saying bro!
They are getting harder to find in decent condition now. Last 250 I bought all the casings had delaminated and were crumbling so it was beyond saving sadly but great bikes
I just sold 2 400 sbc engines i had sitting in my garage for years, as a street engine I preferred them over the 350, they are torque monsters. They are still reasonably common here in NZ.
You are generalizing all these models as if the were never changed year to year. examples..The YZ490 was crap in 1982 and great in 1983, another example the Honda Open classers , horrible in '81, fantastic in '82/'83 and " not so good" in 1984.
I have to mate or each video would be hours long. As it is they are already too long for TH-cam to push. Every so often I do look at more specific bikes. But that isn’t what people tend to watch as much
I have an ongoing agreement with Ken (and others). If you look there is always a link back to his videos. I get a lot sent in and some slip through that weren’t created by the people that have sent them in but usually adding a credit when I know is enough for most people
@@TopRevs I do get sent all sorts. Sorry if something slipped past. Send me a link and I’ll drop it in if that’s ok? I do try and reverse search if I’m not sure but it does happen
you say that before1985, KTM was' winning in the smaller classes' and not doing as well with the larger bikes? This is totally UNTRUE, in fact the opposite is true.
Where? I did say results were different in different places. Europe and America have very different tracks that suit different bikes and so the results were very different
1985 ; No not the best years for open class production MX bikes. Yamaha had stop improving the 490 at all, the last year of a 5 year old design RM, and the once great Maico was all but gone. it was down to CR,KX, and KTM.
i try my best but comments like this just get so boring, im not a ranty gabbling american, ok? you got it? try looking at the videos especially the raw footage, then come back and apologise for being an idiot, the channel goes back long before AI was even a thing
@@barebonesmcu said the ktm 500 has lengthened stroke lacked in hp to kx . The ktm was 61 hp stock has a bigger bore and shorter stroke.. more like a cr 500 engine . Im sure from memory the ktm was a square motor. I know the kx was under square. .. both my kx and ktm were ported high comp and carbed up . The ktm was faster
@@barebonesmc the 85 500 had an over square engine. Sorry its actually a 485 . My bad . But that means less torque more hp in most cases . The 86 i had was a 485 cc
@@JimGoose-hl4cx there you see it, sometimes year by year changes can make it confusing, like i said mate i do my best, but im not perfect, and i dont have a production team checking everything, like i said, i do my best, sorry i didnt quite get everything right on this onec, and cheers for pointing out the discrepency
Man, I can actually smell the nostalgia. Great trip down memory lane thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it mate 😊 memories are priceless
Nostalgie mais aussi réalisme, le moteur 2 temps est plus facile à entretenir, a un rendement plus important quelque soit la cylindrée, le plus le bruit est envoûtant.
À quand le retour du 2 temps, sur la route, dans les champs et sur les circuits routiers ?
From France 🇨🇵
@@danielgery7692 Bonjour Mon Amie. We can hope. But somehow I doubt those days will return sadly
En France nous disons :
" L' espoir fait vivre"
À bientôt.
🇨🇵
@@danielgery7692 😊😊 #togetherwearestronger 😊#ridefree
Don't forget that 81490 mako will go down in history as one of the best motorcycles ever built of all time they still race that by to this day I had three of them they are awesome
Sometimes the do just get it right😊
I ride the "89 watercooled GME 500 with 61 horsepowers and this is my Queen!
@@haraldalbrecht6133 a rare beast 😊
Do they have the correct company spelling on the gas tanks?
My friends brother had a CR500 and a Quadzilla. I had an 80cc 2 stroke RM80 and a 4 stroke DR100 and the only way I can describe the experience of hopping from a 80 to that 500 was terrifying. More terrifying then the first time i rode a GSXR1000 as my first street experience. He's still got the Quadzilla in pieces for the past 20yrs. I'd love to restore it. It was a blessing being born in 1981 as far as experiencing what I truly believe got to live the GOLDEN ERA for motorcycles 👍 Awesome video
It was indeed the golden era😊
At 14, I was riding a kx80, dude asked if I wanted to try his 86 atc 250r.... it changed me forever.... went on to own both a kx and cr 500. I'm old now, so on a yz 250 2t, still miss the thrills of my youth
@davidlagno7717 That's a really cool memory. I've still got an CR500 and a Quadzilla, the latter being in pieces for the last 20 years also. I took it apart to restore it, powder coated and bagged all the components, but never put it back together. Yep I'm that guy 😂
@JustPlaneNutzRC Awesome you still have them! At least you bagged it up. It can still be done. My friends parts are spread all over his garage mixed with every other bike that's been apart. It kills me because I wanna get it together so badly. It's gonna be so time consuming and aggravating. We've been talking about it all these years but no action 😆
@@davidlagno7717 lol. Get it done mate you know it makes sense 😊
I rode 250s in the 70s, and always looked at the big bores with awe. Never rode one, and so still in awe. I’m riding a drz400S these days.
If it hadn’t been for that seat I would probably have had a DRZ. as it was I kept the DR600 for longer then got a klr600 😊 but the drz is a reliable old thing 😊
Always loved the big bore 2 strokes. Had a PE400, IT465 and I still own a KX500.
If my memory serves me correctly the PE400 had the most torque off the bottom. Fell on it's face in the midrange but could idle up a tree.
Cheers for adding mate😊 I don’t know the pe so well to be honest 😊
Had a pe250 done many a mile on that old girl 100mph any day of the week.. loved it for first road going bike..
Thank you so much mate very well put together, I’ve got 2 husqvarnas 83 , 500 xc & 84 500 ae ..
Cheers mate. Bikes from when husqvarna meant something
Great vid
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel, hope you will look around and find something your interested in. there is more on the website too. and there will be more to come. The 250 dirt bikes are here th-cam.com/video/kcgNE9wrK5A/w-d-xo.html
Cheers for watching.Hope you will climb aboard. Ride Free 🙂
I still have a Maico 490 GS Alpha 1... Still kicking azz... Thx barebones.. miss you in the Goat Lounge bro...
Sometimes they do just get it right 😊 and yep was chatting to ctg the other day and apologising that I hadn’t been in recently. It’s been a year of early starts and early nights. But I will be there again. Soon. It’s been a tough time but I’ll get there. Pass on my best to the #GOATARMY If you would. Ride free brother 😊
A few chums of mine had 360 Pursang, 360 Villa and a RM500...... all where feckin lethal!!!!!
The Pursang was special 😊
I had kx500 s for 20 years or so.... The 4 stroke stuff with the increased lateral grip made me give my last one away!!! Think about that for a minute! Thanks
A different breed from a different time 😊 both deserve their place in the hall of fame
@@barebonesmc You bet!!!
@@davidciesielski8251😊😊
If we buy what the EPA forced on the entire industry, we are suckers. Think about that.
@@EarthSurferUSA Not my point at all...Does the epa regulate edge and drive grip? Did you read my comment ?
As a kid my brother had 490 I lost control on the 490 and got partially ran over by a cr500 that was my introduction to the mighty cr500.. Lol ✌️
Ride Free !!
Great story 😊 and cheers for watching mate. Glad you enjoyed it
I still have my 86 yz 490 and 81 yz 465
@@DanielStahler-m8f you’ll not get bored then 😂😂 great bikes
I owned the 83 cr 480, 85 cr 500, 83 rm 500 , 93 wr 500 a hand full of kx 500's and yz 490's. I still have my 86 yz 490 and 81 yz 465. Love big bores
Boy those 83 cr480s were such a great bike..I had one ..easy to use power and plenty of it..light and handled great.
@@CraigSteinman-zt3vu I was 15 when I had that bike. I should have appreciated it a bit more than I did at the time.
@@DanielStahler-m8f how old are u now?
That was some collection of bikes you’ve had 😊👍👌💪
Everybody forgets my Yamaha SC500. I’ve raced them in flattrack ,MX and my road race trim bikes in the AHRMA events. Fun ride.
Sorry mate I had to stop somewhere. They will find their place in time 😊
The 82 and 83 CR 480s were really fun bikes I have a 82 four-speed motor in an 83 frame and 2 83 480s and they are a real fun motorcycle to ride
Sometimes they do just get it right lol 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂
I will never forget the CR500 on the tar, as you opened the throttle, the front wheel lifted, totally linear and controllable ! The KX500 was just a wild ride !!! The Maico we just stared at. The TM400 was a nice road, back roads bike. The XR500RE...what a nice enduro bike, also the XR200....these are the bikes I had experience with in my day.
You’ve had some gems there😊💪
I was starting to get a little concerned when I thought you were not going to show the XR500 but our favourite was the XR600 in Australia had a big cult following boy what a handful of absolute joy, the memories🙂✌️🇦🇺
The 4 stroke thumpers one will be done soon. I am just running behind this year 😊 hope alls well mate 😊
@@Bok2022st mate im sorry, are you ok? let me know when you can, thoughts with you
I had an IT465 and I still have the scars to prove it.
They were mad machines😊😊
They were road legal here in NZ, the dealers would fit indicators and brake light switch’s. I had a 490 for a while, it was terrible on the road, and in enduros I did far better on my IT 200.
Had the 490 registered here in OZ.. awsome bike for the time.. 👍
I miss my KX 500. Bought an '87 for $900. Bought a '93 for $300. Had a nice new bike lol. Went to the track twice a week and rode desert once a month. If you want a thrilling ride get a 500.
Sounds about right 😊👌
I loved racing at Carlsbad Raceway!
I raced a 1978 CR250R, I rode the open class as an expert.
Welcome to a true legend with big kahunas 😊 days when only the strong survived 😊
Not a bunch of bike I'm familiar with, thanks for a great education!
I was struggling to why the cagiva had such a crazy long swing arm, till someone mentioned hill climbs.👍
Glad i surprised you 😊 and yes. The reason I used Ken’s footage and comments is to reinforce what I was saying 😊 it was a mighty bike and not often you see him lost for words 😊
The big bore 2 strokes really are something! I think if one of the big manufacturers started making them again, they would sell out every single one before they could even hit the showroom floor. They're kind of like a .50 caliber handgun... are they manageable? No! Are they practical for most applications? No! Are they user friendly? No! Are they cool AF? Does everyone have that intrigue to shoot a .50 cal? YES! ABSOLUTELY!!! No army in the world would ever adopt a .50 caliber handgun as a sidearm but everyone still wants to shoot one. 65 hp is just insane on bikes that were built 30 years ago. I would love to see a manufacturer put out a big bore with all the modern tech that the bikes have now. Give them traction control, map settings, Brembo disc brakes, and quick shifters. Cmon... someone's gotta do it. Even if there wasn't even a MX class for it, I guarantee that they would sell out regardless.
Love the passion mate. But I would say traction control, map settings, and quick shifters would ruin them lol. But I am a Luddite at heart 😊
It's called the tomasin r&d 500 kit. Takes a current gen crf450r chassis and bottom end. The kit turns it into a cr500 fuel injected 2 stroke. Then there's the brc 500 kits turn a yz250 current ktm 250 into a 500. Pantera 500 kits.
@@barebonesmc I say that because I would love to see 2 strokes be competitive against modern 4s in MX. They already tipped the rules in favor of the 4s. The 2s need all the bells & whistles the modern 4s have to compete as well as enough displacement to make up for the displacement disadvantage they already have. Not fair to put a 125 vs a 250 or a 250 vs a 450. Soon we’ll throw electric in the mix too. 🤯
@@smokinjoeb3926 Yup… if I ever blew up an engine… that’s what would go in my bike!
@@joelboutier1736 a level playing field would be nice 😊
In the 80's i use to watch a lot of motocross races and it was only 2 strokes bikes. The 4 strokes did not stand a chance.
Glad it jogged some good memories mate😊
The Combat Wombat for the win.
I will get there 😊👌 they will be coming 😊
The sound! The smell! My abject terror opening the throttle on a Maico 490! Adrenalin really is brown….
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that comment made my day 😊 priceless 🤣👌👍💪
I really liked my RM 500, I called my pogo stick on two wheels, mind you before the Suzuki I was running a Greaves Griffon, I’m getting passed my sell by date so I think the Greaves was 360cc, so the RM was amazing by comparison . Before this was my AJS 16msc I used on scrambles in the 60s . In those day I was skint I would ride anything with an engine.
Welcome aboard mate. Maybe past best buy date😊 but not your sell by 😊😊
A mate still runs a greaves in classic trials 😊
@@barebonesmc nice bikes shame about those old fashioned two stroke lumps they use, I think mine had a Star Maker the name was great and the lip was rubbish.. keep up your good work and give an honourable mention The Kwaker GT550 mine still giving stromg after a many miles of abuse…👍🤓🏍️
@@highfidelity1st the GT550 will find its place at some point😊 the couriers friend😊
It 465 and 490 was awsome bikes
Indeed. But I had to stop somewhere mate 😊
I love the big 500 two strokes had a 1981 maaco 490 and it was badass it made me from an intermediate to a pro in one year racing in Southern California in 1995 I bought a m star 500 water-cooled mako which I still have to this day we have rode it and rode it and it still runs to this day I handed it down to my kids they wrote it I erased it awesome machine way awesome machine a sad State of affairs how the family embezzled all the money and put them bankrupt I still have a 440 mako 1974 vintage race by that I love to this day I have 65 vintage races on it b&d tuning my name is mako bill have a nice day
Welcome aboard mate and great story. The maiko was what the Cagiva might have been 😊 yes I’m a Cagiva nut lol
Great video, truly you are a "story teller" & I hope your grandchildren got a chance to hear you tell them stories on some
front porch... I know I'd never forget it. We weren't a biking family as my mom hated them but we had a little two stroke
by Yamaha called the YZ-80. Small w/ quite big ballz. I mention it b/c it's all I can relate to this video but I bet all of the
bikes here could go straight up a wall or tree or..... anything else you came up against? You sound good Sir, thanks for
taking the time & I know you're very busy. Let me know when you get back home, not important but when I'm out I'm
always trying to get home again. peace & GB You/yours. cheers mate
No grandkids. But cheers. How u doing mate? 😊
The Lord gave us all another day to do something right..... no grandchildren, me either but it could happen as I do
have a boy who's probably gonna be reckless & create one for me... lol, I waited until I was 43 to have him b/c I
never wanted to have kids who weren't given everything I had to give. That said, I wasn't kidding about your
storytelling ability. I'm 62 & like hearing how you speak in describing bikes of yesteryear. As for the struggles
we're dealing with ; it's going pretty well which I sincerely hope you are progressing too ! I'm sure you are but
it never happens fast enough. Get well & I wasn't kidding about your voice in story mode. It's good man.
peace & keep us posted. Chat soon, peace & GB
@@diggy-d8w you’re a gem mate n glad recovery goin well. I always appreciate your kind words and never take them lightly 😊 sleep well
Don't forget to make a video of the big 500 and 610 Husqvarna 4-stroke and the hoosen birds that set the 4-stroke world on fire they were the benchmark of what is happening right now who's lindenberg awesome machine Husqvarna 610 awesome machine Husqvarna 510 incredible by had three or four of them ran all the time very reliable handled incredibly good
There is a special about the husabergs. And yes there will be a thumpers one soon. I will get there😊
as i'm watching the video i'm narrating along with you "i hated riding the cr500, yeah loved my yz490, the kx was never the king in any of my neighborhoods, yeah the suzuk was a dog" but right when i said i'd take another 71 tm400 over any of them, then like on Q a 71 tm400 popped up in the video, was the 71 tm faster then any of those other bikes, hell no, did it handle better then the other bikes, god no, the thing handled atrociously, what the 71 tm400 did better then any of those more modern bikes was, it scared the hell out of you in a way that made you want to do it again, the 71 tm was the only bike that i didn't care about not being able to win on it, the bike was such a damn adrenaline rush that there never was before or has been since another bike that was as good as doing what the 71 tm400 could, it had the right amount of horrible to make it great....
Great story mate 😊 the tm was a scream lol. In the 250s dirt bikes video there’s one of the 400s tanking around a field with a 250 version 😊
The Suzuki RM465/500 were much better bikes than you gave them credit for. And you didn't even mention the truly incredible Full Floater suspension system. When the Full Floater was introduced in 1981, it was a revalation in motocross development, it was the best suspension ever put on a bike, and continued to be the best for many years after.
Suzuki had Legal troubles with the American inventor of the Full Floater , and yeah it was good !
The mags loved the RM 465, and gave good reviews to the 83 and 84 Rm500. They did not import the 1985 into the US and discontinued it after that year. I wished Suzuki would have developed a water cooled RM 500 in 87 or 88. The last year of their European GP team,in 1983, had a few “RN” 500 water coolers. I had a 1987 issue of Dirt Bike Magazine that said that Suzuki was going to introduce a new RM big bore, but it only turned out to be their Quadzilla in 1987.
As for the FullFloater, it was one of the best monoshock designed rear suspension systems ever created and certainly the best of its time. I had a 85 RM 250, really good bike, and the rear suspension on that bike was better than the PDS on my last KTM EXC. 1985 was the last year of the original design that had linkage above and below the shock.
We all have our preferences. I just preferred the yz 😊
@@barebonesmc have you even ridden one.
@@LBrawn yep but only to try it n was years ago but it was a direct cr v yz v rm n the verdict was split but all agreed the Suzuki just didn’t have the power of the others
Look from Brasil.
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Kaplin can ride those big bores .
It’s not often he’s lost for words lol. A true gem😊
Years ago, when I was a callow yoof, I used to go trail riding in the Cheviots. We met a guy riding a Honda CR-E 500. He was a Honda UK works rider in the British Enduro championship on his works bike. Later in the day we saw him stretching cable on a fire break trail and needless to say, the bike was a rocket.
Does anybody know if Honda UK sold an enduro CR500 at the time? I can remember the bike had different graphics, with a prominent "E" but not much else.
That is one I can’t answer but hopefully one of the subscribers will be able too. There’s a lot of knowledge in there 😊
When I was still learning to ride a bike my cousin had a Yamaha wr490… I took it for a ride around the paddock after a couple of corners I decided to give it a good twist of the throttle… all of a sudden the handlebars were at lock the the scenery going past sideways… gave it back to him and wanted one ever since…
Great story mate. Cheers for adding. I rode a mates YZ460 and spent the next 2 weeks hassling him to sell it to me. Luckily he agreed and put the money towards a 490 and then he spent the next year trying to buy back the 460 😂😂 he did even warm to the 490 but it took time 😊
@dougnemeth5249 So similar to my 1st experience. I was 13yrs old and just started learning on a RM80. My buddies older brother showed up at the sand pits with his CR500 and I wanted to ride it. Like I said in my comment the only word that comes to mind is terrifying! Couldn't nearly reach my feet to the ground and I'm bogging out up this big hill, dropped a gear and next thing I'm in flight it launched me up that hill so fast I was 20ft in the air. Dumbed his bike. But I loved it. I remember that day as the start of a life-long addiction
@@davidlagno7717great story 😊 how our addiction began 😊😊
i had 3 over the years 78 yz 400 cr 500 wr 500
Some nice bikes you had
The RM 370 ports should have been carried onto th RM500 that would have woken the beasty up..😂😂
Sounds like you know more about the engine than me 😊
@@barebonesmc just an observation from what I've seen.. the RM 370 went quite hard once on power the 500 was more like a ag bike grunty with no noticable power band..
@@barebonesmc like any 2stroke nothing like a port job to make it unridable..🤣🤣
@@rebekahfrench5747😂😂😂 my personal experience was the yz always made the Suzuki feel a bit drab 😂😂
@@barebonesmc definitely the yz's had more zing the suzuki range had more grunt like a farm bike. Luckily back in the day we had a few choices and not everyone liked the zing.. l was limited by budget and ended up with a pe 250 that served me well..
I owned 3 Cagiva 500's at once. One hand grenaded the engine. One had a Bing carb, one a Del Orto. Maybe 2 were Del Orto. A 5.5 gallon tank and 2 gallon. In 1988 I drove out to Utah and went 110 miles by truck to Land Of Standing Rock area. I got on the bike and started my 35 mile ride to Standing Rock.... Made it and saw I had Half A Tank!. I had to be careful on the return... I didn't know I was getting 13mpg. So I needed 5 gallon to go aware in S E Utah. Also had a 1984 Cagiva 125. No power valve, horse power curve was like 4hp to 8000rpm and then 30 hp . It always spun the tire when the power band hit. Even if I let it come onto power real slow. Oh, and a 1986 Moto Morini 501 Camel. Not many V twin dual sports.
A flawed masterpiece 😊😊 I had a W12 and a navigator for a while and loved them😊 long live the bikes they built 😊💪💪👌👍
@@barebonesmc The guy I sold the Cagiva's to said he was going to put an engine into a shifter kart....
@@TheHypnotstCollector that would be a wild one 😂😂😂
You have to include at least a brief mention of the ASE CanAm 500! That rotax 486cc was a weapon!
If you can find the comments there’s a long conversation 😊 with very mixed opinions. The ones we got just weren’t that good at all. But seems they were built by ccm here. I just never considered them to be honest but maybe should have
I take a different view on why 2strokes lost favour. Young blokes just couldn’t ride them and went the 4stroke route.
I know a few who might argue that 😊 I don’t think the likes of Mason Klein would have too much trouble riding us old duffers into the dust 🤣🤣🤣 if you search there’s a great interview with him on the channel. He is a diamond in the rough 😊
From your vid headline "10 Fast 500cc 2 Stroke Big Bore Dirt Bikes":
You ever ride a well maintained slow 500cc 2-stroke dirt bike?
the titles are to describe what is in the video, does it not do that?
you're bashing the open class RM but it was the best Japanese open classer in 1981 by a long shot, and a close 2nd place in '82. Look it up in the old magazines.
As I’ve said. We all have our preferences 😊 and it would be boring if we all thought the same 😊😊
you say at 2;58 that the founder of Honda ( Mr. Honda himself) had played a role in designing the CR500, certainly NOT, he was known for his HATRED of 2 strokes.
This video is bs anyways, the only year a kx500 was power king was 1983 after that the best dyno runs where 84 yz then from 85 up the cr. I own an 87 cr and an 88 kx. The honda is a blown fuel dragster compared to the kx
A fair point but without soichiro Hondas support it wouldn’t have been built
What a great retrospect of the beast's of days gone by. I had flashbacks to my teenager year's 👌😜
Glad you enjoyed it mate 😊 there’s plenty more on the channel. Hope you’ll climb aboard 😊👌
HUSKY
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Good segment. But wasn't quite complete without the great IT490.
great bikes, they will find their place in time 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
Didnt Can Am have a 500 2 stroke rotax bike?
Yep. Discussed the can am’s a few times in comments and seems to have been viewed very differently in different markets. Apparently ccm made them here and they weren’t good at all
12:00 rip Friedhelm Zabel 20. oct. 2020
A truly great engine builder
I never hear about the canam series bikes that were sold to Armstrong CCM, apparently armstrong dropped the dirt bike models, to bad because the canam's were a good bikes before they were sold to Armstrong, what happened to them?
They went down like a lead balloon here. Seems there were many problems and they just didn’t perform well here at all. Poss manufacturing issues with ccm maybe but I don’t know why tbh
Honda CR 250 full Pro Circuit. 1987. Flew.
I’m sure it did 😊
You missed the Yankee
??? Tell. Me more. What did I miss? If you mean the can am it’s been discussed in the comments 😊
@@barebonesmc th-cam.com/video/jxr8D-sVz_Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vl1POanrUFYrY2bl
Great video thanks would love one of these 500s I might be old enough not to kill myself on one now.hi from New Zealand 🇳🇿
lol. Glad you enjoyed it mate. There is a 250s dirt bikes vid linked in description too😊👍 cheers for your support
You left out the Yamaha WR 500...That was a bike and a half...
As always I have to stop somewhere 😊 it will find its place in time 😊. Glad you enjoyed it mate. There is a 250s dirt bikes vid linked in description too😊👍 cheers for your support
It was the old YZ490 engine in a YZ250 frame. It finally got the brakes and suspension it had needed, only too late.
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 cheers for adding 😊 have a great day mate
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 A mate of mine bought one. He was a stunt car driver and had no interest in racing it. He just used used it off road. Said it was the best motor ever. He sold it to financepart of a deposit for a home. He regretted selling it till the day he died...(last year)
No matter what When you ever you come across a 1997 cr500 you buy it no matter what!! You can not find parts for that bike. It's like Chevy 327& 400 small blocks you can not find these anymore.when you do people want your arm and leg for it. Just saying bro!
They are getting harder to find in decent condition now. Last 250 I bought all the casings had delaminated and were crumbling so it was beyond saving sadly but great bikes
Built 500 makes all-new manufactured parts for the CR500 engine. Including cases, transmissions, cranks and virtually anything else you would need.
I just sold 2 400 sbc engines i had sitting in my garage for years, as a street engine I preferred them over the 350, they are torque monsters. They are still reasonably common here in NZ.
Siamese cylinders stink. 383 stroker ok. FOMOCO #1
You are generalizing all these models as if the were never changed year to year. examples..The YZ490 was crap in 1982 and great in 1983, another example the Honda Open classers , horrible in '81, fantastic in '82/'83 and " not so good" in 1984.
I have to mate or each video would be hours long. As it is they are already too long for TH-cam to push. Every so often I do look at more specific bikes. But that isn’t what people tend to watch as much
just wondering if you have permission to use the videos you're using? Kaplan for example
I have an ongoing agreement with Ken (and others). If you look there is always a link back to his videos. I get a lot sent in and some slip through that weren’t created by the people that have sent them in but usually adding a credit when I know is enough for most people
I see some of my clips in this video
@@TopRevs I do get sent all sorts. Sorry if something slipped past. Send me a link and I’ll drop it in if that’s ok? I do try and reverse search if I’m not sure but it does happen
@@barebonesmc It’s ok! Great video btw, I enjoyed it☺️
@@barebonesmc th-cam.com/video/K-TPWyumrhk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VwPYEjC-VIUH1jXj
you say that before1985, KTM was' winning in the smaller classes' and not doing as well with the larger bikes? This is totally UNTRUE, in fact the opposite is true.
Where? I did say results were different in different places. Europe and America have very different tracks that suit different bikes and so the results were very different
1985 ; No not the best years for open class production MX bikes. Yamaha had stop improving the 490 at all, the last year of a 5 year old design RM, and the once great Maico was all but gone. it was down to CR,KX, and KTM.
Cheers for your comments mate. We might not agree but I love and respect your passion
Are you a bot? Who reads like that?
i try my best but comments like this just get so boring, im not a ranty gabbling american, ok? you got it? try looking at the videos especially the raw footage, then come back and apologise for being an idiot, the channel goes back long before AI was even a thing
the 1982 and 1983 CR480's were much better machines than the CR500's
Cr480
@@anttonydamico2578 thank you Anttony
Understand I have to start and stop somewhere 😊 there will always be the ones that get missed. They will find their place in time 😊
Inaccurate descriptions . Look at the specs on bore and stroke. Ive owned a husky a ktm 86 and a 93 kx.
I do my best mate and do cross check. But I am 1 bloke so there’s inevitable gonna be occasional mistakes. What did I say? Remind me
@@barebonesmcu said the ktm 500 has lengthened stroke lacked in hp to kx . The ktm was 61 hp stock has a bigger bore and shorter stroke.. more like a cr 500 engine . Im sure from memory the ktm was a square motor. I know the kx was under square. .. both my kx and ktm were ported high comp and carbed up . The ktm was faster
@@barebonesmc the 85 500 had an over square engine. Sorry its actually a 485 . My bad . But that means less torque more hp in most cases . The 86 i had was a 485 cc
@@barebonesmc the kx was square sorry 86x86 mm. So with powervalves should be torquey er tha ktm .
@@JimGoose-hl4cx there you see it, sometimes year by year changes can make it confusing, like i said mate i do my best, but im not perfect, and i dont have a production team checking everything, like i said, i do my best, sorry i didnt quite get everything right on this onec, and cheers for pointing out the discrepency