Wonderful stuff. 1/ Do these restored carriages have spoked or disc wheels? It's so hard to see...2/ And what was the history of wheel conversion fron spokes to solid disc wheels? thanks!
@@wapphigh5250 I think the wheels were always spoked. Victorian Railways Y class shunters had bogies and traction motors from scrapped Swing Door trains, which were mechanically identical to the Taits and while I have only seen solid wheels on these locos, MSTS models show spoked wheels on the locomotives, probably based on how they looked in the 1960s?
@@johnsergei I can't remember! I remember catching these with the smoking/no smoking sections from GlenWaverely in the mid to late 70's... but I can't remember the wheels... Auscision models have a Tait release coming out with both spoked and non spoked and I've asked but they don't really know the intricate history of the wheels which is crucial IMO.. That's why I'm asking!
@@wapphigh5250 I'm pretty sure they were spoked. I spent 2 years living alongside busy railway lines. 1974 and 5. My mother had a house near East Camberwell station and my father had one looking down near Hawksburn station. Both places would see several trains in five minutes, during peak times and dad's line had plenty of country trains an freight, diesel hauled or L class. Tait trains were a slight majority in early 74, with a bit over 1/3 the fleet being mostly Harris trains. Out of 10 trains passing, you'd be lucky if one was a Hatachi. By the end of 75, it didn't seem much different, but it was. Hatachi trains were still in the minority, but where now not a rare sight, especially on weekends. Jan 76 my father went to Adelaide and I went with him. September 76 dad took us to Melbourne to sell a black of land at Rye. We stayed a couple of nights at friends, within sight of the tracks near South Yarra bridge. From what I saw there were less Tait trains passing, but it might have been a weekend, where by now few Tait trains would be needed. I didn't see Melbourne again for 5 years (& the 76 stay was brief). Seems forever when you 12 then almost 18. Soon as my first work holiday came, I was on the Overland for Adelaide. I thought I was in New York City and the first 3 trains I had to catch were Hitachi. This would never have happened in 1975, and I was great ,, when a Harris, finally came along. I didn't know why, because I didn't buy railway magazines at the time, but I noticed I only saw Taits on Sandringham- St Kilda or Port Melbourne runs. Looking back I wished I'd spent more time in Melbourne as I had no idea within 3 years, the country and city trains would be mostly replaced. Just think, over 1/2 the Taits I saw as a child would have been taken out to Kingston and burnt, this was around 1979. I have a 1977 book about Melbourne trains and though many Taits were off the register, there was no mention of the scrapping at Kingston. There is an arial photo on the internet of Jollimont yard. Can't see the 3 giant buildings under construction at the time, Naru House and Collins Place Towers, but you can see the almost complete NAB building alongside the black BHP tower, the tallest when I was a child. That places the date to 1978 or maybe late 77, and Jollimont yard is full of Taits. How many of these got hauled out to Kingston by a diesel soon after?
What a fantastic achievement! Congratulations Steamrail!
What an incredible achievement
Fantastic! Congratulations to all involved at Steamrail and Elecrail.
That’s fantastic news! congratulations steamrail and elecrail!
Excellent work Steamrail. 😊👏👏👏😊
Just beautiful. well done!
Shock 😍 moving and soooo many carriages preserved!!!
i just got the Victorian Railways Tait adon for mts great video i wish ican driver it
Wow , hopefully they run on the mainline later this year
That’s awesome!
Well hopefully they are back on the main line only for railtours in the near future.
261D is sitting on blocks 8km from Maryborough Victoria. Just thought to mention that for archival reasons :)
What condition is it in, restorable?
Wow. I would love to see shuttle service
TAIT WITH THE THE RBR HORN
WOW!!
Did they fix the sagging spring? I noticed that when it was hauled between two steamers 2+ years ago.
Wonderful stuff. 1/ Do these restored carriages have spoked or disc wheels? It's so hard to see...2/ And what was the history of wheel conversion fron spokes to solid disc wheels? thanks!
When in service they had spoke wheels, those these type of bogies are not original, dating from the 1930s onwards.
@@johnsergei Thanks John. So had spoked wheels basically been removed from the entire Tait fleet by the end of the 30's?
@@wapphigh5250 I think the wheels were always spoked. Victorian Railways Y class shunters had bogies and traction motors from scrapped Swing Door trains, which were mechanically identical to the Taits and while I have only seen solid wheels on these locos, MSTS models show spoked wheels on the locomotives, probably based on how they looked in the 1960s?
@@johnsergei I can't remember! I remember catching these with the smoking/no smoking sections from GlenWaverely in the mid to late 70's... but I can't remember the wheels... Auscision models have a Tait release coming out with both spoked and non spoked and I've asked but they don't really know the intricate history of the wheels which is crucial IMO.. That's why I'm asking!
@@wapphigh5250 I'm pretty sure they were spoked. I spent 2 years living alongside busy railway lines. 1974 and 5. My mother had a house near East Camberwell station and my father had one looking down near Hawksburn station. Both places would see several trains in five minutes, during peak times and dad's line had plenty of country trains an freight, diesel hauled or L class. Tait trains were a slight majority in early 74, with a bit over 1/3 the fleet being mostly Harris trains. Out of 10 trains passing, you'd be lucky if one was a Hatachi. By the end of 75, it didn't seem much different, but it was. Hatachi trains were still in the minority, but where now not a rare sight, especially on weekends. Jan 76 my father went to Adelaide and I went with him. September 76 dad took us to Melbourne to sell a black of land at Rye. We stayed a couple of nights at friends, within sight of the tracks near South Yarra bridge. From what I saw there were less Tait trains passing, but it might have been a weekend, where by now few Tait trains would be needed. I didn't see Melbourne again for 5 years (& the 76 stay was brief). Seems forever when you 12 then almost 18. Soon as my first work holiday came, I was on the Overland for Adelaide. I thought I was in New York City and the first 3 trains I had to catch were Hitachi. This would never have happened in 1975, and I was great ,, when a Harris, finally came along. I didn't know why, because I didn't buy railway magazines at the time, but I noticed I only saw Taits on Sandringham- St Kilda or Port Melbourne runs. Looking back I wished I'd spent more time in Melbourne as I had no idea within 3 years, the country and city trains would be mostly replaced. Just think, over 1/2 the Taits I saw as a child would have been taken out to Kingston and burnt, this was around 1979. I have a 1977 book about Melbourne trains and though many Taits were off the register, there was no mention of the scrapping at Kingston. There is an arial photo on the internet of Jollimont yard. Can't see the 3 giant buildings under construction at the time, Naru House and Collins Place Towers, but you can see the almost complete NAB building alongside the black BHP tower, the tallest when I was a child. That places the date to 1978 or maybe late 77, and Jollimont yard is full of Taits. How many of these got hauled out to Kingston by a diesel soon after?
Yay
Noice.
If only they ddI this to the Hitachi sets.