DTF VS White Toner T Shirt Printing! Which is better? Can you tell the difference?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2023
- Today I am going head to head with DTF VS White Toner T Shirt Printing . Direct to film against laser images. Which method is better? Can you tell the difference? Take a look to find out!
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I love that you share with us your victories and mistakes
I just starting out, and I appreciate the content you produce. Thank you.
White toner for me. 😊 you can always modify the colors 😊
Can u explain more and give hints on how to do that? Do you just mean make colors more intense in the settings before u print?😊
Thank you K! Your videos are always so helpful. Can’t wait to see a video on how to use the cadlink program and how to put 2 images on one page. 😊
I love when people show the learning process
Keep it 💯
When you rub you are cooling down the transfer for White toner, that's why it stuck in the corner
Looking forward to seeing more videos. This was a perfect video for me to explain to others how white toner is different than dtf.
Thank you for doing this comparison! I love white toner because of less equipment space. But dtf is also mighty! It's to be respected. You really can't go wrong with either. Just set your visions for your biz growth right. Thank you for all you do, Kat. You're helping my depression by giving me something to do. A great distraction.
You’re very welcome you’re right you can’t go wrong with either just have to choose which one is better for you.
Thanks for sharing love your videos:. I love the fact that you give so much information for others to start or grow their own business. Love love your honest review s and opinions. May God continue to bless you and your family. Love the Glow-up
I’m so glad you made this video! Thank YOU!! 💓
I hope it’s helpful
I just starting my business and I have learned so much from you. Thank you for being so open and honest!
You are so welcome!
Katrina this was so on point. Thanks for doing this review.
You’re welcome
I’ve reviewed and used the hot peel…needs too cool a bit for better transfer! I promise you! TSeal as well after puts it in that fabric better than tephlon!! Love your videos!! Thanks for the review!!!
Thank you so much for this video I definitely am currently trying to make decisions on these 2 techniques.
Glad it was helpful!
Just a big question about safety related to DTF. There's some important warnings related to the vapors from the oven when curating the print. Companies are highly recommending to wear a vapor mask to avoid inhaling the DTW powders from the oven even ir you have the Air purifier added. That's one of the reason that is holding me back and considering more the White Toner. Thank you!
That's my concern as well, I don't feel an air purifier is enough, I have my crafting room in one side of my basement and my husband and kids go downstairs to do laundry or watch tv/play in the other side, today I watched Brother Ernest video , he says he got Anaplastic Cancer from DTF Printing, now I'm terrified to get a DTF printer, even taking the precautions :(
Me and my husband working on our business and ur videos are such a big help. I’ve learned so much.. thank u for sharing 🫶🏽
Congrats. You are very welcome. 🙏🏽
I haven't done any DTF yet, But I did see the difference in the two shirts. Thanks for showing me.😀
You’re welcome
Thank you for another awesome video. I enjoy your videos. I love the DTF one more
You are so welcome!
you are overall just a wonderful person. i love your vids.
Awww thank you so much. I definitely try to be. 💕🙏🏽
Thanks for the Video Katrina. I appreciate it! I'm new to this business and I outsource my transfers right now. But, I'd maybe like to invest in a DTF printer one day. So, all of this info is helpful!
My white printer is due on Monday. I think I’m going to send it pack. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the comparison ... I've been debating which printer to add to my business. I've been leaning towards the DTF. In my research it is said that the white toner print doesn't hold up as well. What have you noticed?
The DTF is more vibrant but the Toner is so much quicker in preparation !!!
Thanks for sharing and doing the comparison. I can always depend on your show for the truth. For me, the DTF would be my FIRST choice. However, working with my kiddos at school, the WT printer would be better for them. They just want a shirt and not really concerned about the vividness in the colors. lol. I will be using the DTF more for my business production.
DTF is great!
TIP: When putting a DTF image like that on a white shirt, you can knock out the white and use the color of the shirt to make the transfer feel even nicer. 🙂
A huge advantage with DTF is being able to automate the process for larger volume. With a roll printer and auto shaker/dryer, you can print 50 designs while you do other things and they will be ready to press when you get back.
What dtf machine do you have
Thanks for the comparison, I don't have a DTF and will stick with the DTF hack before buying the machine. I do have the Icolor white toner printer but I didn't buy it for t-shirt, I brought it for all the great things it can do with hard service ceramic, glass, wood, acrylics, metal, magnetic sheeting, leather, candles, window cling and printing white, matalics, glitter, glow in the dark, tattoo,ceramic, glass, wood, acrylics, metal, magnetic sheeting, leather, etc Also the low temp you can print on mylar balloons. So, I guess it all depends on what you want to do for your business!
Exactly the white toner is great for so many other things. I didn’t even know about the balloons. Wow.
@RealLifePotions wow I had no idea of what a WT printer was capable of!! Do you have how tos of how to press to those things??
That DTF is giving what it’s supposed to be giving. Love your content Katrina
Yeeesssss All day! Thank you so much
Katrina I must say you seem like you live in such a fun and Happy Home
Most days but the other days my son drives me crazy too. Lol. He’s a boy so it comes with the territory but thank you.
Hands down DTF is my fav
Honey !! Awesome job,it is the DTF for me looks much more bright to me.
DTF for the win!
😊🙏🏽🥰 gratitude Katrina 😊
Thank you, very informative as always. Lol at Kayden. You know he has to be in the video 😂
Always! Some how or another right. Lol
Have you tested washability? Love your videos! You explain in great detail in a way I understand, thank you.
yess that dtf is popping
The difference in vibrancy is a small price to pay when you consider the maintenance of white ink for DTF.
Thank you for sharing!
My pleasure!
You’re very welcome.
New subscriber. I love your channel
Thank you welcome to the channel
Good video thanks dtf looks better
I think the DTF is way better and brighter. I love your channel. You're so creative, and you explain things so well. May God continue to bless you in all that you do 🥰.
Thank you so much. Much appreciated ❤
No problem.
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I really love reading the positive comments most people make. God bless them and you.
Hi Katrina, I really enjoy your TH-cam post. Love the DTF... I'm holding off a bit, budgeting... plus I see the smallest of the prestige has come down in pricing quite a bit. So might hold out for the L2. My question is... on the Trans Pro 16x20 ( I have that press as well) Could you share you TT&P for the DFT transfer?
It’s in the last video I posted but I’m still trying to perfect my settings. It wasn’t on the website so still trying to get it perfect. Right now I’m pressings around 320 for 20 secs
Thank you
I would have loved to see how you fixed the messed up portion of the white toner design. I’ve always said “it’s not what you can make but how well you can hide the mistakes!”
Thank you so much for this. I am.late to the party, however I followed you with getting the whote toner printer. You could have saved the "H" by putting to bal together and pressing it again, rubbing it and it would have been good!
The little corner of the “H” that was missing could you have got some scissors and cut it out late it back on it and rubbed it and see if it would’ve came off
Great comparison! Thank you soooo much! I was in the process of getting a white toner printer. You just saved me so much!! Thank you!
They are both great. Get which ever one you feel is better for your business. No maintenance with the white toner
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I’m confused now. I thought the white toner was the one that required the daily maintenance. Please explain it for me. I have the DTF hack for my business.
great content thanks but I'm curious on the amount of maintenance that needs to be done on both DTF and White toner printers
Excellent video 👍✅
Trina what about the speed of the Prestige...are you happy with how long it took??
It couldn’t definitely be faster I can’t change that but the way some people made it seem like it was much slower. So for me having my first DTF I’m happy with it. It’s definitely not for mass prints.
Thank you so much for this video and the other videos you share. If someone couldn't buy all of these machines, which one is a good start between sawgrass, white toner, or DTF?
Sawgrass is sublimation only. You can’t go wrong with any of them but you have to decide which method is best for you.
DTF ALL DAY. JUST GOT MY KIT TODAY AND GOING TO TRY IT OUT.
Yup came out much better
Your right about the color…but can’t you adjust the color to more a vivid setting on the whiter toner?
From my understanding the toner can print when you need it. The DTF although vibrant in this example. You have to open it up everyday and shake that white ink or else it clogs. Do you have to print something every day too? So that the hoses that carry the ink don’t get messed up?
Also..you said both machines cost $4,000.00. But you “Need” that oven to cure the transfer right. And it’s best to buy that filter/air purifier thing. That’s gotta put you close to $5k if not more. 🧐🧐🧐🧐
I hope I get to see a nice video someday on dark colored shirts. Blacks especially.
As always love the videos, the channel and the way you compare the items and the information you provide.
Thank you!!!!
Exactly… I been watching her videos. She’s becoming bias on her free gifts. Anybody running a T-Shirt business with that type of dtf machine. That’s 4 mins to produce a transfer or longer. And she butcher the white toner process and gonna say DTF is better. They the same price, knowing damn well they ain’t the same price. DTF needs a oven and ventilation system equipment.
Asking the right questions. I actaully just saw another commenter metnion an auto dryer/shaker for powder. It'a machine that will shake and bake your DTF powder for you to ensure consistency. The only problem? Damn thing costs 3 grand! So you buy the printer for $4K, then you buy the dryer for $3K, you're already four digits in the hole comapred to white toner. Sure, the DTF print looks 10 times nicer, but that white toner still blows my old DTG printer out of the water, and no one's complained about that one yet.
I think if white toner can figure out how to have the adhesive backing paper already married to the clear film out of the box, it will become a clear cut winner. That kind of straight from the printer to the garment convenience and speed is hard to beat.
THANK YOU answered all my questions. Love your videos❤❤❤💯 have a BLESSED DAY
You are so welcome
Nice! I can really see the difference. What kind of paper for the DTF
It’s shown in both my other dtf videos in the unbox and 1st prints video. All links in description box
Katrina, you rocked this review and of the two I’m definitely going with DTF. I get mine on Monday and I’m excited about it. Can you advise what’s a round about you would charge for dtf shirts and if we did at some point I think it’s called gang sheets?
Your prices will always depend on the cost of shirts and how big the image is. Anywhere &25 and up
@@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 thank you so very much. I was wondering if the price would be higher because it’s not vinyl and the supplies are higher.
@@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 if you have to sell those shirts at $25.00 a pop just to turn a profit, you're in trouble. You can get away with that for like three or four shirts, but anyone placing a double digit order (not to mention triple digit,) is going to expect a much better price than that. Good for you if you can make it work, but I would go out of business if that was my bottom profit making price.
The dtf colors definitely pop more, but the white looks pink to me. You don’t really mention the cure box, besides putting it in. We all probably have a press by now, and besides having to invest in either printer, then that looks like it would be another huge investment, compared to the powder and bucket
Hey Katrina! You're such an inspiration to me! I do tumblers and I want to print my own clear cast decals that have a white backing. What type of printer would I use?
Depending on the tumblers the easiest method is sublimation or waterslide. Please refer to the videos I have on those topics
@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 Thanks for that, but if i wanted to print clear cast decals that had a white backing, would I use the printer you're using, or is that just for tshirts?
What I am trying to test since my equipment is damaged is if, for example, your DTF printer loses 1 color, let's say the cyan, you leave it to print only the white backgrounds and on top of that you print the color with sublimation and thus the DTF head would serve you longer because it has 6 color channels that you can convert to white channels only
I know this was 9 months ago - but I am just starting my Boutique shop. I am not going to do T-Shirts - I will be doing mugs tho. I just bought a white toner/printer machine - I didn't want to go to a DTF toner as I hear it clogs and you have to always clean it.. Have you done a comparison on that? I do have a mug press. Uh... so much to learn. Katrina - Would love to see how the DTF on mugs - I was told the white toner is Best - boy, I don't know - I love the DTF - but the time??? A lot more steps. Thank you Roxanne Utah
DTF all day gotta get me one
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I have a white toner printer and a converted DTF...while white toner is easier to use and maintain, I'm team DTF all day. Its materials are cheaper and images lasts MUCH longer after washing. The marrying process with white toner can be hit or miss...not with DTF. Once you find your sweet spot with curing without an oven, you're definitely in the game. However, there's a lot of maintenance involved with DTF so be sure you're readtly to give that printer some love, time, & attention. It's worth it.
All facts. The DTF is definitely Maintenance involved but overall much better quality.
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I thought the white toner printer required the daily maintenance. Not the DTF powder process. Please clarify so I’ll understand it better. Thank you so very much!
What printer did you convert into DTF?
@@BlackWhite-ru8gm Epson 1430
You have to use to Dtf daily or it will clog huh? I don’t get enough orders for a Dtf if you have to print daily.. probably going to have to print anything lol
Great video thank you! What brand powder and fil are you using?
Wala dtf powder it was on the screen in the video. Link in bio all products for dtf are in my previous dtf video as well.
The colors on the DTF are much more vibrant but the "white" rabbit looks slightly pinkish. You can tell where the ears came off the transfer as they are actually white. The white toner has a better looking white in my opinion. Maybe seeing white on a dark shirt would show better?
Hi, I had some ideas and I looked on youtube and I see that you also have similar ideas. I would like to know if you can do tests since you have all the equipment and I don't. have a DTF but my print head got clogged. My ideas are
1.- DTF printing only white background and sublimation on top with ink and sublimation paper
2.- white toner printing only the white background and sublimation on top with your sublimation printer
3..- white textile vinyl and sublimate above with your sublimation printer
This to know if when a printer gets damaged you can mix the techniques and know which ones work I saw your video of the dtf hack
If you choose to do this im asking me if you really need the hotmelt powder or ink can be sublimated to the dtf print or the whit toner print with out hot melt powder
Btw, in other video how come some DTF print has already white underbase (even before putting white powder) ?
Can you just intensify the colors in the settings before you to print for the dtf to make them pop more?
Dtf for the win. I will be moving towards DTF by the end of this year
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Did you do a wash test? Some of the other DTF videos I have seen the color washes out in the laundry. And I don’t know how White Toner does in the laundry. Thank you!
Yeah I have wash test videos on it’s been posted a little while ago. Make sure your notifications are turned on.
Does this dtf process work on black shirts or do you have to use the white toner method for black shirts?
Whats the largest size the White toner and DTF printers print?
Can both of these print on mylar and kraft brown paper bags?
Loving my prestige the only thing is learning the cadlink
A learning curve but not that difficult
@@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 do a cadlink tutorial 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
2 months later how do you feel
@@superwarbuckz9618 actually had to send it back , I had problems with it , when I printed anything that was yellow or used yellow a streak of black would show up in it , tech support is hit or miss they say they gonna call you back but they don’t , also they email and ask questions but don’t respond . You I was hung up on several times when I asked to speak to a supervisor , finally got a guy named Zach on the phone and he assisted me to a replacement printer , still waiting for it to be delivered…..
@@superwarbuckz9618 the printer is good when it works as it should , but this printer is also not being sold New anymore it’s pretty much outdated and you can only buy a refurbished unit ….
How bout the screen printer.. can you show how that’s done
Per your recommendation, which do you prefer white toner or dtf?? Thank you
DTF
DTF hack using sublimation printer gives me a bright print but I don't like the grainy look. Any suggestion on how to get that problem resolved?
Sorry no I don’t really use that method just showed it. It may be your ink
@@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 thank you. Someday I hope to be able to purchase a DTF printer.
I have tried white toner prints and they are probably the worst out of all of the print methods. They don't last and the equipment is expesive and time consuming for the price. I do like DTf. I have not found anything that matches the longevity and quality of screen printing and Supacolor. DTF is the closest alternative. for cotton t shirts.
The marry process is definitely frustrating when you have a lot of images to do.
Ii will never recommend toner printing. I have to use it at work and the quality sucks. Dtf is far superior
@@joditrovato9348 I agree.
Do you feel this is more cost effective than doing dtf film in a regular inkjet or sublimation printer? The process with the powder is similar to the dtf hack I tried.
Sublimation is great but it only works with polyester.
Hi, I kept my DTF Transfers far to long and they developed white bumps/bubbles on the back of them? Is there a way to fix them?
Hello just coming in... does the B paper has to be printed with sublimation ink or can it be with ink jet?
This is a white toner and nothing else it’s laser printer not sublimation or inkjet.
Where did you get your DTF set up please!
I'm using sublimation printing I have machine
Hola tuve algunas ideas y busque en youtube y veo que tu también tienes ideas parecidas me gustaría saber si puedes hacer pruebas ya que tienes todos los equipos y yo no tengo dtf pero mi cabezal se tapo mis ideas son
1.- impresion DTF solo fondo blanco y sublimar arriba con tinta y papel de sublimacion
2.- impresion white toner solo el fondo blanco y sublimar arriba con tu impresora de sublimacion
3..- vinil textil blanco y sublimar arriba con tu impresora de sublimacion
Esto para saber si cuando se daña un equipo se pueden mezclar las técnicas y saber cuales funcionan vi tu video del dtf hack
Did you get the software with you white toner or did you purchase it separately?
Thanks
The rip software comes with the white toner. The std comes with the 15 trial and you have to purchase it.
Even though the DTF image has bolder colors the rabbit looks pinkish not white. The whiter toner laser image makes the rabbit look white not pink. I think both have acceptable colors, because short of the side by side I think they both have good color.
Yeah I noticed that as well.
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Yeah so nyc
What is the white paper you used?
Why would you use white toner and ink when transfering onto white shirts?
So random but.. the shirt you have on what printing style did you use? 😊
I had to go back and see what shirt I had on. I have a full video on it. It’s the Siser easy color dtv
How soon after pulling the image, do you have to put the DTF powder on it?
Right away
Can you use the DTF POWDER on the white toner print?
Great question. Was wondering too.
I am sure the answer would be no. The white toner print is created on a laser printer with white toner. It is dry/fused when it comes out of the printer.
DTF power sticks to the wet ink surface of the DTF print and then is cured by heat prior to applicaition to the substrate.
@@neoblu63 yeah that actually makes sense. Lol thank you
ima try anyway it may even change the w_toner feel, o bet experimenting some diff dtf powders something would work because the dtf powder B paper both are very thin coating, ot really meed 2B experimented
What brand is your dtf machine & what model number please
Hello do you have the link or Information to the dtf printer you have I have been 50/50 on converting one or just buying one
The DTF printer I’m using is now discontinued. I talked about it updates DTF videos and showed other options please refer to that video
What do you think about UV printing for cups and mugs
I have never done that
DTF all day everyday! 🎉
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I have a question, if I use dtf printing, does the powder have an unpleasant smell when placed on the film or when the film is heated?
I wanted to open a kiosk in a mall to print T-shirts, and someone told me that the use of DTF printing would not be allowed inside the mall because of the use of chemicals meant for powder, and also heating it will lead to an unpleasant smell
I have no idea about that. My powder doesn’t have a smell
Thanks Katrina for the comparison, I'm DTF all the way. Will be ordering mine's in 2 weeks
Awesome hope you love it
Hello, madam. I represent all kinds of UV printers. Let me know if you need anything. Give you the best discount!
hello Katrina, please I like to start t shirt design business and can prestige A3 + oven dtf printer help? which warehouse can i buy from? Also, any brand to buy heart press from please? Thank you.
I just posed an updated video on my DTF video please watch that video just posted. In the video show the website and all the models you can get with the pricing. The links are always at the bottom of the videos
White toner.. but its on a WHITE SHIRT.. so its really not much of a scenario. But redo the video on a DARK shirt or even a Grey Shirt 🎉
Can you transfer to any color of the t-shirts cotton ? Or just black and white
Yes any color. This has no limits like sublimation
@katrinasgracefulcreations3711 thank you..
How about vinyl suit case?
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DTF FOR SURE!