Honda Pilot vs Nissan Xterra: Who got Stuck?
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2007 Honda Pilot Upgrades
• Led Headlights and fog lights
• Weather Tech floor mats
• Transmission Cooler
• 2 in front lift
• Front cam bolts
• 1.5 in rear lift
• Adjustable rear camber control arms
•Rear swaybar delete
• Front skid plate
• Firestone W237604135 Coil-Rite Kit
• Smittybilt Defender one-piece roof basket
• Pro Comp Explorer Spot Beams x8
• Tentproinc 8x9.5 awning
• Hi-LIft Jack
• 4-Ton Dual Gear Power Puller
• Shackle hitch receiver
• Front Shackle mod
• Plano Gun Guard All Weather 36" Box
• 5 camping chairs held in gun box in roof basket
• Folding table stored on top of traction pads in roof basket
• 4x X-Bull traction mats
• 4x Goodyear Duratrac 245-75-r16
• Full size spare wheel 245-75-r16
• Jumper cables under driver seat
• Toolbox under passenger seat
• Modified trunk area to hold recovery gear
o Viair 88P Air Compressor
o Tire patch kit
o Shovel
o Axe
o 2.5lb sledge hammer
o DIY Hi-Lift Recovery Kit
o Hi-Lift Jack Mate
o 20’ x 2” Pro Grip recovery straps X2
o 50’ Synthetic Winch Line
o EZ Tire Deflator
o 2x wheel chocks
o Tools/ spare parts
o First Aid Kit
o Wd-40
Future projects
• DIY rear dif skid plate
• Winch
• Snorkel - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
We learned a lot from our experiences in this video. I built a heavy duty front hitch receiver to hold a winch and upsized my tires to 32" mud terrains. Mike purchased a rear hitch receiver and shackle attachment. We have a Kinetic rope and soft shackles to allow more reach if needed. If we were stuck in the same situation again we would have much more options. Live, learn, and always improve! Check out my new videos to see other off-road adventures!
don't forget to work your steering wheel left to right after you start spinning & start losing forward progress, this can make a difference when the going gets tuff
Damn Nissan, when they will bring back a real SUV like the X? I love mine.
They talked about it. But didn't say too much about it. But I guess that gives us hope for a new one? haha
Getting my 02 3.3L SC running now. Loved it before it broke, took it to a shitty mechanic that threw the kitchen sink at it, messed it up bad. Can't wait until I can get it back to 100%
@@cwbgaming8913 yea.. the Pathfinder used to be the 4 Runner fighter back in the 90s to early 2010s until they turned it into a family crossover.
I have a 6 speed manual trans 2009. I have three bad accidents. Nissan fixed it and it’s running good. 13 years 105k. I sold my 6 speed frontier, it was hard decision.
nah.. they downgraded the x and slapped bunch if unecessary electronic thingy..
"That's why you teach your kids about poisonous spiders" then pokes it with a stick haha. That's so real
LOL Right!
Xterra Pro-4X models are the greatest SUV of all time. Perfect size (not too big, not too small), 4.0L V6 that is bulletproof as long as they are maintained properly, bulletproof 5-speed auto or 6-speed manual, Dana axle, Spicer transaxle, fully boxed frame, excellent stereo, reverse camera, shift on the fly 4WD, fold down back seats which become a flat cargo/sleeping area....
That is a great vehicle! Thanks for sharing!
Mine has all of this except the back up camera and is the base s model not the pro 4h. It's an 05 6 speed manual 4x4
Agree
I’ve got an old Frontier 4wd v6. Runs like a top with 145k miles on it.
everything you said is true but Nissan unfortunatly dropped the ball on the front differential
You're a great dad! Keep it up! Wish every father would be a man and take care of his kids! 💯
Thanks! I love raising my kids!
He has his kids with him. Good. Intentionally putting then into precarious situations! Bad
Think before you do stuff for YT vids.
@@GratefulOverlander Hes simply driving through water.
He is teaching them how to cope with life.
@@GratefulOverlander What’s bad about learning from failed experiences? It’s better that they are in precautions situation with an adult, that’s their father! Must be nice to live in a perfect world 🤣
Xterra all the way
Isn’t it more fun to root for the under dog? 🥲
As an Xterra owner myself you gotta give it to the guy for taking a front wheel drive biased unibody SUV to areas that most folks wouldn’t even attempt
Solid footage!
@@l00tur Thanks for the props! LOL
@Owen Garcia same here
My 2012 xterra would have said to the pilot shift on reverse lol it would have worked the first time
Black widows are no joke. Glad the kiddos didn't touch it. An acquaintance nearly lost his leg and his life after a bite. Kudos on the awareness.
I knew the Honda was going to get stuck before I even saw the video! I have a 2012 Xterra and pulled my share out. Seriously looked you guys had a good time and were safe! Never wheel alone is a good rule of thumb, Get an ARB Snatch strap which actually will stretch
Thanks for your feedback. We both learned a lot from this past trip. I bought a 7/8" kinetic rope and he bought a nice snatch strap. FYI: I bottomed out in the rear between my wheels. The Xterra's center axle diff very well could have bottomed out worse. We are going to head that way soon to test :)
I just got an xterra in July I have skid plates and off-road tires is there anything you would recommend mods wise or should I just see how it goes first
@@lukejohnson6623 recovery gear would be a good place to focus next. Then you can find out any other mods you need for wheeling you area.
@@lukejohnson6623 2" body lift only costs about $150-200 to do yourself and allows you to fit 32" tires and second remove rear sway bar for better flex in rear, they dont really even help for road ride as claimed on this truck. Ive had 3 xterras. These are the 2 first mods i do on every one. I hope it goes without saying get rid of the side step bars as the are thin and will cause a lot of body damage if you land on them
@@lukejohnson6623 my current xterra is an 08 and i titan pro 4x swapped the engine/trans and front suspension. Its beastly and oly really requires a 2"body lift and practically bolted right in with very little harness modifications.
At least y’all are out there having fun with your kids and friends. Who cares what other think.
Thanks!
I've owned both along with a Ridgeline and Frontier SE 4x4. I absolutely loved all three vehicles and regret selling any of them.
The Pilot is a very good SUV...perfect size IMO. Generous seating and wonderfully comfortable on long road trips. I've drove across country from Miami FL to my hometown in Upper Michigan in both. I did put a 2" lift on the Ridgeline..it looked better, but didn't really like the result of it otherwise. It messed with the traction control over things like speedbumps.
IMO, in the off road arena, the 2nd Gen Xterra is very hard to beat....especially if its like 2010+ where the SMOD (strawberry milkshake of death) issue was resolved.
Mine was a '12 P4X with approx 6" lift from NissTec (extended travel kit) and another company that I sourced the shackles from with Radflos (f) Bilstein (r) and sliders from White Knuckle. Other mods were the rear diff breather relocation (highly recommend even on stock...literally costs under $15) and that's about it aside from tires. It was just a beast, and the only drawback IMO is you really have to off-road it often and keep the Radflos moving through their full travel or they can develop shock stiction and feel a little rough until you off road it. IMO the Pilot is better for families and it's road manners are much better. ..not that the Xterra is bad. The Xterra has a much higher potential for off-roading...maybe not a much aftermarket than a Jeep, Taco or 4 Runner but its decent enough.
I did return the P4X to stock when I sold it and bought a Subaru Outback which sold and paid cash for the Pilot, then rear-ended and took the money to buy a '16 Frontier...installed all the same lift kit on the Frontier. It was better in some ways, but the added weight on the back did help w/ the Xterra, but the Fronty had a manual which I prefer. Ended up selling that when I moved to the EU, but I did sell it for $4k more than I bought it for...but now my life is boring in that respect.
I like these kind of videos..sorry for the rambling
I'm planning to buy an 2011 Xterra with 99k miles. In your opinion do you recommend it? I live up north where it snows a lot and I'm tryign to use that car on the weekends mostly to move outdoor gear.
@@javiermendez9365 Yes. Earlier years of the X had some issues with the radiator/transmission cooler. However pretty much all kinks have been resolved since ~2009/2010. The engine in the X is fantastically reliable and strong. For a '11 w/ 99k miles, that's extremely low miles. As long as it's been reasonably cared, it should be a good buy! Do you know which trim level? 4WD or 2WD?
@@josh33172 Hey man thank you for the promp response and the details on the X issues of the earlier years. The one I'm looking at is a 2011 Nissan Xterra S 4WD. I asked for the history on the car, it did have an accident about a year ago, in which the driver side wheel assembly and Axel were damaged, and they had to replace thte entire assembly, axel and bumper. They replace the bumper and also installed a winch. I'm kinda hesitant now that I found out about the accident.
@@javiermendez9365 An older car will inherently have its issues but hopefully very few if it came from a good year and was reasonably cared for. An older vehicle that's been in an accident, all bets are off.
Proud Xterra owner here! I've got a 2015 Pro-4X. BEST vehicle purchase I've ever made!
Thanks B. Have 04 Xterra. It was pleasant to see you make it family. God Bless
Thanks!
Good video! Extra points for the Overland Pup!
Thanks! She is always down for a drive!
Tires & gears. 75% driver. Gratifying to see them not tearing up the land & river.
This video should just be called "Vibing with the boys for 18 minutes" lol, they're straight up just chilling 🤣
Really cool video to watch! Cool to see what all people use to get out and explore!
Yes!!! We were holding our breath when you got stuck! We love our off-roading our Pilot and love seeing the crazy stuff it can do!
Thanks! It was definitely crazy there for a moment :)
I have had a 1990 Full size Bronco, 85 Bullnose and an 03 xterra. Love them all. That little xterra is a little terror off road. Great vehicle snow, mud, sand and deep water. Great video. Keep the videos coming
I have been meaning to get together with Mike for another adventure! If you haven't already check out our Colorado and Uwharrie series. The xterra kicked the Pilots butt on the high altitude Colorado trails.
I had a silver pilot just like yours, it was surprisingly capable. Now, ironically enough, I have a white xterra pro4x! Lol. I love it, it’s probably the best all around vehicle I’ve ever owned. Great vid 👍
The Xterra is definitely more capable, but I like being unique :)
simaliaar looks! finally we got a video out like this! tho i think both would have gotten stuck either way because the pilot has a bigger lift and its up to half of the wheel.
A kinetic rope will be night and day compared to normal straps. And always keep the rope in tension to make sure you don't drive over it and damage it.
Thanks for the advice! I am definitely looking for a kinetic rope to add to my recovery gear!
These old Xterras, Frontiers, and Pathfinders were the BEST from Nissan!!!
Good vidoe, im an Xterra guy, i would have liked to see the xterra try a go at the spot you got stuck in.
We will soon!
Good vid. I have been in some deep sh*t and some really backwoods areas with my 07 Xterra and always made it out! Last Fall navigating the Buffalo National River basin in Arkansas. My X never let me down!!
Great video. I learned a lot about each vehicle
Thanks! It was a lot of fun too!
Dude that terrain is a cakewalk for the Xterra Offroad. I have a 2010 Xterra Offroad, and you should see what it can really do off road.
That is awesome! I am looking forward to off-roading at an OHV park this weekend with Michael and his Xterra!
He wasn't testing the Xterra. He brought him for help in reality.
He was merely testing his own stupidity
And you're right, this road is WEAK. This isn't overlanding
@@GratefulOverlander A HOLE
@@GratefulOverlander You’re a hypocrite where’s your videos at Mr. “ Grateful Overland”? It’s a family channel, if you don’t like, it don’t watch it?!
Great footage! I miss off-roading in my 03 pilot. It breakdown every time it rains. 🤦♂️
Thanks!
That was so much fun!!
That was fun. Man, that spot at 9:03!! Those dirt bikers thought we were both crazy!!! I must have found a hole under all of that water that you didn’t. There’s no way I took the same line that you took through that. look at the splash! Up into the grille! I am glad Nissan put the intake up high and shielded in the fender.
I probably would have gotten stuck in that last bit too, so it’s a good thing I didn’t follow.
It was fun Mike! Your entry speed might explain the difference in the apparent water depth.
I wanted to see what the pro4x could do. I got my girl one but it's never seen mud. We've always just used my f150 to play.
@@fernandobriseno8164 The X is pretty capable off-road, even in stock form. I have very tame all terrains (Cooper AT3's) on it, and it didn't have any trouble out there - but only because I didn't try that last mud hole after Aaron got stuck! If I had gone in there and gotten stuck we would have had a hard time recovering the X with no rear recovery point.
@@Mike.D.843 yeah man I hear you. A hitch comes in pretty handy for stuff like that. Just wish I could have seen the X in deep mud.
@@fernandobriseno8164 check out my page to see a 2nd gen Xterra in mud and off-road.
I also know a guy that took a regular on road vehicle, put of roof rack on it, and referred to it as an "overland build". Results were shockingly similar
Good one LOL
Just found your channel. Been binge watching . I'm impressed with your knowledge of Pilots. Kids are awesome! Thanks !!
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for sharing, very fun...
Looks like it’s close to Orangeburg, S.C. I use to fish in the Edisto River when I lived there long ago.
Sometimes going right through the middle of muck will give you better traction. That is where you want to be a little more aggressive with the speed. Sometimes lack of speed and bad tires will get you stuck.
Awesome
Looks like you had a blast with your kiddos and doggo. I would invest in a kinetic rope and a dedicated recovery point for that X. The front factory recovery point is intended for shipping purposes from what I understand and may snap (at least what people claim on the forum). Nonetheless, you’re doing things with your kids.
Thanks for the advice! I bought a 7/8 kinetic rope and michael bought a rear hitch receiver:)
Good comparison---Body on Frame vs Unibody
Good stuff for boys to enjoy
Saw you spinning out when you reversed over the recovery strap. Immediately thought the worst haha!
Love how you kept it real !
Assessed the situation calmly and figured it out 👍
Just curious ...What would you have done to get out if your friend wasn't there ?
I have a pilot to but overland alone and need to know the answer to this 👍
Love your channel great work 😄
That is a good question. generally speaking I won't try an obstacle if there isn't a tree around to winch off of. In my previous video from this same location I passed on this same spot for this very reason. There was one more option I had in my recovery quiver. I could have used my Hi-Lift to lift each wheel and place the traction boards directly underneath them. That would have at least got me moving.
Awesome video and you are a great dad!
Props to your kiddo!
Black widows don’t go far from the nest. There are hundreds near by. Great job kid!
Ive had both😍😍
Honda don’t know nothing about making a rugged tough vehicle they’re all for reliability and being practical
Bingo ! 100 % correct. My mint 2000 xterra SE is a beast in snow and off road. Actully have pulled my friends Honda pilot put many times, lol.
Just bought a 2008 Honda Pilot and oh man I’m excited despite this experiment lol. 192k miles but it’s been in a garage all it’s life you can tell.
Great find!
The Pilot is a good SUV. You will be surprised how well the VTM-4 lock actually works.
@@ColoradoStreaming thank you can’t wait to test that feature out! So roomy of a vehicle
Pilot is a cross over vehicle that came out to play on the Xterra playground
Probably true! I definitely feel the need for low range sometimes. In mud on flat ground like this video you would be surprised what the pilot can do when you lock VTM-4 :)
I’m more surprised that the kids know their Spiders
Imho they're both great platforms. I have a lifted Subaru Outback and a 2004 Xterra on 33's. There have been places the X got stuck that the Outback walked through and vice versa. However for daily use, the Subie is much preferred.
Cool vid, looks like you guys had a good time!
It is really fun testing your vehicles capability! Welcome to the channel! Hopefully I can find a subie to wheel with too.
Are you serious? How would the Subaru ever beat a xrerra in any situation?
@@alexgarcia3900 it's AWD is superior to an open diff 4x4 system in slippery situations. Mud, wet rutted areas, and hill climbs in particular, as well as snow.
Overall the Xterra is better off-road, especially by virtue of its better angles, suspension travel, and low range gearbox, but until it's got lockers it just can't touch Subaru's AWD for overall traction.
@@GotterAdventure I can't recall if you mention where you're located in your videos, but post-pandemic I plan to get the Subaru out for more adventures than I did in 2020.
You'll find that Subarus are pretty capable out of the box, but every platform has strengths and weaknesses. It's a lot more fun when you go wheeling with a motley crew rather than all the same brand.
@@a.sanford8731 we are located near Charleston Sc
Finny. I own both of those. 07 Pilot EXL AWD and just bought yesterday 11 Xterra Pro4x. Nice cars 👍
Yes they are!
Except they aren't cars🙄
Both can do Medano Pass in CO. Easily can hit up beaches in TX. See ya on the Gulf Coast
I'm glad that I bought a used 04' Pilot 😆
Long time owner of a 1st gen CR-V that I LOVED, but had to let go of recently
Some years back, I test drove an Xterra and have wanted one ever since. But their reputations and durablity seem to be a 50/50 chance.
Can say I wont be buying another Explorer. Despite mine being a solid deal and no major problems (other than horrible gas mileage). The Xterra and my Honda are a lot in the suburbs in comparison to city apt that my cramped explorer is.
Tip:
If you install your d-ring vertically it will eliminate the side to side high tension rubbing forces on your straps and soft shackles.
I would need to drill out my adapter… great tip though
Your kid identifying a Black Widow and staying safe is awesome 💪
It's a beast in 4x4. I got an 04 x
Yes they are!
The dog was my favorite part..lol ..pilots rock. Js
Yes, as an Xterra driver, I enjoyed this a great deal
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video! It that in Columbia near the Saluda River?
I agree I pulled out of the mud a police 4 wd truck and a animal control van both at the same time. I made sure my I was in four low and the police truck.was in four low and the van was just in drive it took three trys but we all stayed on the gas and I pulled them out to the road about 600 feet . Every one was happy except the police officers because he got stuck all four wheels buried deep and my little 2007 bession xterra pulled all of them out at once . Because the regular town tow truck refused to go back in the back field of this high school to get them out . 😊 I was the proud peacock that got it done .
I owned a 2004 nissan Xterra in fact I'm so proud of it
I just sold my raptor. Bought a 2010 xterra.this little car is actually a prettty good 4x4.
I have a 2010 Xterra Offroad Edition....slap some BF Goodrich MT tires and you will never look back. I've pulled out ditched (drainage ditches) Chev. Tahoes and Jeeps with my Xterra. They are beasts...
Xterra sits on a fully boxed Titan frame and comes with a locking rear dana 44 with low range...kind of a one sided comparison but still fun to watch!!
Thanks! 😂
No they are based off the Frontier.
@@atx-cvpi_99 and the frontier uses the titan boxed frame ya point
Just put down a deposit on a 2006 pilot. It'll be great for the kids and wife. 4x4 for when the weather gets bad. Don't think she'll be doing this sort of driving but good to have a decent 4x4 for more emergency type situations
I have both an 11 pathfinder & 05 pilot. I knew before this vid even started that the pathfinder would be superior off road.
The Nissan didn't even attempt the hole I got stuck in...
you teach your kids good
Thanks lol!
Never forget to take traction control off it will always make you stuck. Sucks but true
Where did you guys go? Im near Edisto and would like to test my 4x4 rig sometime
There's a striking resemblance to Fort Bragg here haha
I'm curious because I have a manual and it's supposedly the same rear end as the pro4x
Can you put lockers on a rear end without them
I found a good way to short out the abs on my xterra... you have a wire for the abs in the glove box. If you run it through a rocker switch you can completely disengage abs. Even with traction control off the abs still engages. It's gotten me stuck a lot in deep snow
That is a great trick!
@GotterAdventure sorry. It's not the glove box... it's the middle console. You have to pop out the drink holder and the inside of the console (under the lid).
To get everything back on you have to turn the switch off and then turn the key off and on. Sorry I don't have a link
Best thing to do is get one of those recovery hooks for your toe hitch and a sturdy set of straps and you’re all good
I agree!
Крутые ребята😎едут в машине). Красивые места. Природа похожа на среднюю полосу в России. Ты отличный отец👍
I didn't know Honda Pilot could go off road!
I have one and its surprisingly capable as long as you are careful. The VTM-4 is a true rear lockers and has pulled my up some gnarly hills.
They can't ! without breaking something ! ask me how I know, I wheel with a friend that has one, lol
If you had traction controls off and VTM-4 Lock engaged. I think you would be able to get through the mud.
I will be back to try again!
VTM-4 Lock is the real deal. Its funny Honda put an actual locker on their SUV when even some Jeeps dont have a factory rear locker.
holy cow that was a big widow!
They are big in the south!
Underrated video
Thanks! It was a ton of fun to make!
I love my truck it has 190,000 miles on it and runs beautiful
I also own a 2010 Xterra, and your friends license plate says he is too. I'd be interested in talking with him.
never use straps or chain. always a kinetic rope ! Words of wisdom from the off- road recovery wizard - Matt
We have since purchased appropriate recovery gear
Where can I get that roof rack?
"I'm definitely going to purchase some soft shackles, and a nice long kinetic rope, and, oh... an XTerra offroader too."
"Goodbye Honda."
The xterra had automatic traction control 🙌
Lmao the dog is having more fun than anyone! 😊 🐶 🐕 🐴 🤷♂️
Saphira (our dog) loves the adventures!
Pilot 4wd does it engage automatically? When you press the VTM-4 bottom does it display on dash screen. I got a 2011 pilot when I engage the VTM the light shows on the bottom only is that okay without displaying on dash screen light 4runner does
I only have experience with my pilot. The button light is the only indicator that you are locked.
I own a 2010 Pilot but hate the cylinder deactivation. The newer Pilots seem more crossover type
I agree with you on that. You can buy an adapter to disable VCM. 03-08 4wd Pilots don't have VCM.
Love the video! Keep it up looks like ur a good dad!
Thanks! It is very important for me to spend time with my family!
This is the best video ever the cars the mud your kids
Thanks! It was a ton of fun!
Of course the xterra got it. Got one myself decent vehicles that's for sure
Great rubberboots !!
Almost sold my Xterra, but definitely keeping it until it dies
I think that is a great idea!
He ( or she ) who hesitates is LOST.
Is No The Car, Is The Driver 😂🤣
hey bro, what's the year model of the Pilot?
I have these two trucks. I love both. The Pilot is more comfortable for long trips. The x terra is stronger
They are both great!
What year/ trim is the pilot?
The better the SUV the longer you'll have to walk to get a recovery 😉
Good point! Hopefully you have all the recovery gear to make the escape!
@@GotterAdventure sometimes we need a tractor to make the escape 😁
@@artemymokhov255 My Pilot would rip in two LOL
How much lift do you have on the pilot? Did you up size the tires too? Looks great!
2.5” lift 245-75-16
@@GotterAdventure awesome! Thanks man! Keep up the great videos.
@@LuRanOutdoors I left out .5” lol. I have a 2.5” lift
The dog ❤
Her name is Saphira and she was recently diagnosed with cancer. I am posting a video about her today. He is still doing well, but isn't long for this world.
👍 for the kid that screamed “ black widow “
What kind of lift did you get? I have an 06 I can’t figure out what lift to get.
I had an ebay kit, but I would look at the HRG 3" ultimate lift