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Eco-Boost Shudder Issue [FIXED] 2015 F150 Eco-boost Shudder Fix!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2021
- 2015 F150 Torque Converter Shudder fix.
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Many of the 3.5L Ecoboost owners are experiencing shuddering issues with the vehicles, whether its misfires, driveline, or transmission. This is my fix to the issue I was having. Hope this helps!
My truck is a 2015 F150 Crew Cab, 5ft bed, 3.5L Ecoboost, 6SPD Transmission
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Hey guys, just wanted to give you guys a heads up on something. When buying a trans filter for your truck, make SURE you get the right one. There's some misinformation online with getting the right motorcraft part. One filter has ONE outlet, and the other filter has TWO outlets. Make sure you're getting the right one. They shipped me a filter with one outlet when the filter on my truck needs two outlets.
where and how do i put the shutter in my truck ?
@@calebdavenport6427 it’ll go into the transmission dipstick hole, or fill hole. You’ll have to go under the truck on the passenger side in order to find the dipstick, I’ll be under a cap with a hex head on it, the size of that hex head is 3/4”. Then once you get that off, you’ll squeeze the shudderfix into the dipstick hole
@@ChaseBuiltBikes and i can go into like my local auto zone and just ask for shutter and that’s all?
@@calebdavenport6427 Yep! I went to advance auto to get it, but I’m sure auto zone has it as well.
@@ChaseBuiltBikes do i turn the vehicle off and let it cool down before i put it in or what did u do
After a week of research, I found this video last night. Bought the shudder fix today and put it in, and like magic, my f150 rides fine now! Thank you so much!
I have the same problem , has the shutter lube kept it good ? I e heard that's just a temp6 fix , but if it works for a while I might just try that for a bit and start saving for a built torque converter
Peace brother, thank you so much for creating this video. It was the first one I found online and watched. It fixed my shutter issue in my 2015 F150. My wife and I are grateful to you brother, peace and love.
You’re very welcome! Glad to be of assistance
Just did a tranny fluid swap, changed tranny fluid and put the additive in. I cannot get my truck to repeat the shuddering, so I'd say I'm a satisfied customer thus far. The tech that worked on my truck advised me not to put the additive in..... I kindly told him to F off and just do it. People don't realize how much time and effort I spend on these forums just to save myself money, thanks for the video Chase!
Thank you so much for this. It worked for me as well, the stealership was trying to take the transmission apart to troubleshoot before suggesting this. Thank God I saw this video first!
🤣🤣 stearlership I gotta remember that one
Hey everyone! Just wanted to make a comment up top here since I’ve been getting this question a lot. My truck hasn’t had a since issue since the making of this video. I’ve put on over 65,000 miles and it’s been perfect.
I commented two weeks and I finally confirmed I have a torque converter lockout shudder on my 2013 Ford Edge SEL with 78,100 miles. After extensive reading I've found, due to the "green-energy-movement-mumbo-jumbo", that these newer vehicles are manufactured to use a lower viscosity fluid, namely the Mercon LV transmission fluid in these ford transmission applications. Lower viscosity fluid does not provide the protection higher viscosity fluid offers so higher replacement intervals are needed to maintain protection. I've found that intervals between 30k-50k miles seems to be ideal. I was told I needed to have my transmission rebuilt, but the transmission shop NEVER mentioned the fluid being the potential issue. My shudder was also 100% eliminated after using 1 2oz tube of Lubegard's Instant Shudder Fixx & Lucas Oil Products Transmission Conditioner. My shudder was instantly eliminated. Going to get my fluid changed very soon! I'll repost when I 100% know if my issue was the same as yours! Thanks for the video!
Do you add the lube guard through the small hole right on top of transmission or is there a place under the hood for your truck?
Thank you for sending me the message about my comment on your video. I took your info and got the mechanic to watch the scan tool readouts on the torque converter. AND I BET YOU CAN'T GUESS WHAT HE FOUND! LOL! It was slipping just like in your video! And it showed on his scan. So I would say to anyone having this issue, Don't bother just leaving your vehicle vehicle and HOPING, they can replicate the issue! Make them ride with you! And avoid the hassle and extra days off work. I had him in the truck until the transmission started warming up and the issue raised it's ugly head. And he was able to record each event. That way my warranty covers it. Thanks again for your video!!!
Awesome! Glad to hear!!! I've just heard your same horror story from other people and that's gotta be so frustrating, that's some good news! Glad I could help and thank you for watching the video
Thank you for posting this video. You saved me thousands of dollars for now. I've been trying to figure this shutter out for a couple of weeks, and starting to spend lots of money. I can't believe how much smoother my truck is shift now, and no shutter 2016 F150 5.0L 80,000 miles
You’re very welcome, glad it worked for ya!
Hey Kevin, any updates? How's your truck doing now?
Do you add the lube guard through the small hole right on top of transmission or is there a place under the hood for your truck?
Man this video fixed the problem I have had for over a year. I always thought my eco boost was just eating spark plugs and the shudder was misfires. sometime went by and I would experience those aggressive shudders but I wouldn't get a CEL or any on forscan. I went into a deep search starting with "misfires but no CEL" until I found this. Literally immediate fix. my 2014 3.5 ecoboost with 220,000 miles now runs as smooth as glass at highway speeds where i had the same symptoms
I have 2014 3.5 I’m coming up on 120,000 any tips to get mines to 220,000 like urs ? Thanks
After over 2 grand in parts and labor trying anything and everything to have this issue diagnosed or fixed and watching hundreds of videos. I found this video explaining the same issue I was having after trying the shudder fix the problem immediately was resolved. Next step is getting the trans pan oil drained and filter changed and hope it continues working. Thank you I was getting ready to give up about to put up my truck for sale. Really thank you very much.
You’re very welcome! Glad it worked for you
@@ChaseBuiltBikeshave you heard about the shutter on a 2017? My truck is doing a skipping and sounds like the same problem as everyone's trucks with the 6 speeds
@mikegarcia7452 there has been a couple people in the comments having issues with their 2017’s. I think it may be 18 or 19 when the converter issues were resolved. The 6R80 is famous for having converter shudder, unfortunately it’s a pretty common issue
Thanks for this ad!!!!! My 2015 f150 started doing the shutter coming back from Florida and thought what in the world!!! Then made a trip to Tennessee and it REALLY got BAD in the mountains. Was having to downshift to 5th gear alot while climbing because was getting on my nerves so bad. Well went today and bought a tube of the STUDDER FIX and put it in. And like magic I've drove it probably 30 miles soon as i put it in and did AMAZING!!!!! NOT the first studder went over 2 high over passes and NEVER STUDDARD the first time!!!! THANKS FOR THIS POST.
Great news! You’re welcome
Chase, you are a life saver! I have a 2015 F150 Platinum, and I thought my transmission was shot. I picked this truck up a couple of years ago and put 20k on it so far (103k total). I did a little research before I called the auto experts, and I found your video. You described exactly my issue. I asked a local lube shop if they would do a transmission fluid flush, and they asked me why. I told them that I had a transmission shudder, and I had no evidence it was never serviced before I got the truck. They told me that a transmission flush wouldn’t fix it and acted like doing it would actually harm my vehicle. I have never heard of a shop turning down work, but ok. Today, I picked up the LubeGard Shutter Fix and put it in the transmission myself. The fluid looked brown on the dip stick, so I am confident that it was never changed. Once I finished, I buttoned everything back up and took it for a spin. I did some in town driving (where the shifts were rough and sluggish before) and some highway miles (where the shudder was the worst). NOTHING! It was smooth as butter! I can’t believe it. I will have to buy the filter and transmission fluid to do this job myself now that I know what the issue is. Huge thanks to you, Chase!
You are very welcome! I’m glad this worked for you! It’s quite the relief to know that the transmission isn’t shot!
Hey did you ever buy a new filter for trans? I’m in same boat got a 15
Did you ever know that you're my heee-ro?!! YOU ARE THE MAN!!! Thank you for this info! I have a 2016 F150 4x4 with a 5.0 and that shudder was driving me nuts! I was just getting ready to pull the driveshaft and get it balanced so you saved me the hassle and the extra money it would have cost me. I have to say that I took a different route to address this, rather than add a friction modifier, I decided to flush the trans fluid hoping the new, clean fluid would have the same affect. I'm glad to say the shudder is 98% gone. A local oil change shop just flushed the trans this morning and I noticed an immediate improvement. I was still able to detect a very small shudder driving home but it only happened once and is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. Someone else might not have noticed it but after driving the truck with it shuddering for a while, I notice the smallest vibration. I might add the modifier as well for giggles. I ran across another TH-cam video where the guy said the only way to truly fix the issue is to replace the torque converter but unless the clutches in the torque converter are actually shot, that might not be the case. It could just be the worn out and dirty fluid that is causing the pressure deviations. After all, when you replace the torque converter you're also replacing the fluid. Time will tell. If it starts shuddering again, then I will have to go the torque converter route but for now I have my early Christmas present!! Thanks again dude!!
Awesome! Glad to hear you got her fixed. Thanks for the awesome comment!
Do you have an update? Has the shutter come back or did the new fluid fix the issue?
@@dback138 New fluid fixed the issue. I have not had one problem since I got the transmission fluid flushed. I now have about 88k on the truck and love it. I never added the shudder fix. Just flushed the trans fluid.
well, after nearly 8 months of fighting this issue, I am SOO happy I found this video!! Thank you so much for posting. It has been driving me absolutely crazy, and it is the exact same thing you described. A little shudder around 1500rpms and would just slightly jump a few hundred rpms right as the shudder began. I was so positive that it was a misfire or something with the engine only because the shudder happened with the weird rpm spike, did not think the trasnmission would do that. I have a 2011 with the 3.5L and after watching/listening to your video, I am 99% positive this is my issue. Thank you for fixing my massive headache haha!
You are very welcome! I remember the frustrations I had while trying to track the issue down, I think I lost some hair! 😂
I wish I would have found this sooner, my 17 5.0 F150 has been doing this since the day I bought it about a year ago with 33k miles on it. Since it is still under warranty I have had it to the dealer 4 times in the last year and gotten nowhere...... They just kept telling me there was no codes and to keep driving it. I have changed the plugs and coils just to rule those out and no change. It had gotten too unbearable to drive and my factory warranty is up in September so I took it to the dealer and handed them the keys and said I wasn't taking it back until they figured it out. After 3 weeks in the shop they called and said its the torque converted. Took a quick google search to find all sorts of people with the same issue. Thanks for posting this, I have hope it'll finally be fixed.
I just wanted to say thank you. Been trying to figure out this problem for the longest and your video did the trick. I didn’t even change my filter or anything. Just added the additive
Been living with this for 20,000 miles for a 12 dollar fix. It worked
I was towing about 6,000 pounds this weekend and was noticing a shudder at 2050-2100 rpm in 6th gear. At first if a hill was coming up I would manually drop to 5th and it would go away. After about 300 miles it’s now at the point of doing it between 1500 and 2500 rpm and in 5th and 6th gears. I unhooked and under moderate/heavy acceleration I could hear a clicking and had a rough idea it was the transmission.
Thank you for the video and making my search for the problem easy. It’s headed in for cam phasers this week, so I’ll add that to the list of things to bring up.
I have 175,000 miles on my work truck. this shuddering was driving me nuts found your video put in the shutter fix and voila problem solved thanks so much for the info!!
That’s great! Glad it worked out for you.
I have been searching and searching trying to find someone with an article or video that explains this on my new to me 2015. It’s been driving me nuts. I actually changed my plugs and coil packs tonight hoping it would help. I was going to do it anyway because there was a small misfire/shutter and it was at 100k miles when I got it. Changing the plugs and packs fixed everything else but this shutter/vibration. I have told everybody it feels like a rumble strips. I am getting some of this shudder fixx stuff first thing in the morning and trying it out. Thanks for posting this.
This worked for me. Completely got rid of the shudder.
That's awesome! I'm glad this video helped. It was driving me absolutely nuts too, I felt the same way!
@@brandonr.9158 great. But do you think this is a permanent fix, or just temporary.
Yup! I’m fixing my truck tomorrow. I have a 2011 that does exactly what you’re describing!!!
This happened to me today. You described the issue almost verbatim. Going to try this fix to see if it resolves the issue. Thanks for posting.
Got the same issue on my 15' f150 3.5 w/ 197K factory motor/trans. I will be ordering a tube now. Thanks for the video!
Great vid. Many owners don’t service the trans because dealers preach lifetime warranty now. All lifetime means is 80-100,000 miles.
Modern service intervals are starting to become insane, fords intervals on these trucks is causing more harm than good. I’ll change my engine oil every 3,000 due to fuel dilution in the eco boost engines
I have this issue currently....excellent video. I suspected drive line, I definitely have exact same issue you did.
This info was dead on. I have a 2016 F150 Lariat 5.5 bed with 106K miles. I had the exact issue begin and replaced the U-Joints thinking it was the problem. After that didn't fix it, I watched this video and added the Shutter Fix to the transmission. This worked immediately and the vibration was gone. I'll be doing a transmission pan drop and changing the filter out. Nice video and great info. Saved me a ton of time and money.
Have you changed transmission filter and fluid since adding shudder fluid
I did. I did a pan drop and replaced the filter right after adding the shudder fix. I drove it for about 1k miles then did it again. I also added the larger bottle of Lube Guard the shutter fix company offers and I’ve gone about 20k miles without the issue returning.
My 2017 expedition xlt ecoboost has a newly noticed shudder. It sounds like im running over rumble strips randomly. I changed my o2 sensor, and my spark plugs are good. I'm going to try the shudder fix and see if I can get a transmission flush and I pray to God, it'll fix my noise. It's only for a few seconds here and there, but over 40mph. I'm hopeful! Thank you for the helpful video.
You nailed exactly what the 2015 Ford Expedition I have is doing. Thanks for the info!
I also have a 2016 Expedition XLT EcoBoost and I’ve noticed that once I go above 40 mph, I feel a vibration when it shifts every 5-10 mph. It feels like if I’m driving on the rumble strips on the side of the road.
Thank you brother. Great information, I was pulling my hair for a week.
Same issue s sure was thinking it was drive shaft , but that seemed good when I took that off . Glad I stumbled upon this issue , gonna be expensive but hope to get it in asap to get rid of this problem
This is exactly what is going on with mine right now. Thank you!!!
You’re welcome! Best of luck!
2017 F150 5.0 6 speed. Rumble strip feeling with RPMs changing about 15-20. Used two of the small tubes into the transmission and holy smokes, it worked! Went for a drive and no more vibrations. Can’t believe it.
Awesome news! Glad it worked out for you.
Great video you explained my problem perfectly. I will try shudder fix tomorrow. You should get a commission. Thanks for help
Thanks mine is 2017 2.7 eco-boost and I parked it it’s been parked for almost a year and I I thought it was gonna be a lot of money to fix it but kept seeing the instant shutter liquid fix x videos so I am definitely going to try it transmission guys told me they were gonna have to drop the tranny since they were no engine light so I’m glad I seen this video. It definitely doesn’t hurt to try it but I know it’s going to work. Thanks
God send!!! My 2016 3.5 Eco boost was having the shudder. 30/ 55/ 70 MPH. Went and had a transmission flush and added the shudder guard. Fixed the issue!! Thanks for the video!
Glad to hear that!! Thanks for watching it!
What is a shudder guard?
@@NoeGonzalez7 it's a transmission fluid additive that is basically a friction modifier for the clutches. Helps them grip a bit better. There's a link to the product in the video description if you'd like to get a better look
Thanks man I was about to just trade this expedition I did everything you did and just found it yesterday and you confirmed it !!!!!
This happened to my 2015 ecoboost at 150k miles. Transmission flush at the ford dealer resolved the issue. It’s at 227k and now it’s back! Got to get another flush. I put a lot of miles on my truck as I travel for work.
Great videos!
Did the flush help the second time I'm almost to that same mileage on a 16 model with a shutter
Yes sir it did! Got it flushed again at Krause Ford in Woodstock GA. I won’t wait for it to happen again. Going to get it flushed every 60k. I do a ton of highway driving. I’ve already put 2-3k on since flush and no issues yet again! Good luck
Yes sir it did! Got it flushed again at Krause Ford in Woodstock GA. I won’t wait for it to happen again. Going to get it flushed every 60k. I do a ton of highway driving. I’ve already put 2-3k on since flush and no issues yet again! Good luck
Since we’re about the same miles… how many throttle bodies you had to put on your truck? I am on my 3rd replacement.
Thanks guy. Perfect description!! Exactly what mine is doing
Thanks a ton man! Been pulling my hair for a while too.
Dude, you don't know how long I've been trying to figure this out. I refused to take it to the dealer. I've gone through everything except trans. You are the only person that has described the EXACT problem I have, and given a legit fix. Can't thank you enough for taking the time to post this. I've never used shudder fix. Did you use it before the oil change? I was getting ready to change the trans oil this week as the next step anyway. Should I wait to use the shudder fix until after? Or do you think it matters at all?
Not a problem man! Im glad you liked the video! You can do the shudder fix before or after. I went ahead and put mine in before just to confirm that a fluid change would fix my shudder. If you do it after I think that would be a good thing for an extra step in helping the shudder.
Sounds like my problem too
@@mikelunsford7462 Could be. I changed the trans oil, no flush. Used about 7 qts I think. Added one tube of shudder fix. Haven’t had the problem since.
@@FortunateJon after I, uh, you, fix my problem, you should sell this secret for a dollar, you'd be Rich! Like the headlight guy, wiping a carb cleaner soaked rag and wiping Toyota headlight lenses to clean em up. Rich rich Rich
Thanks my problem too! I have changed wheel hubs about went to struts this is alot cheaper! I will do it tomorrow
I read so many forums that said the fluid exchange/flush would get rid of the shudder until I found this video, and "the Shudder Fixx" from Lubegard. I can happily say that my 2017 ecoboost 10speed tranny shifts like a gem now - thank you! (saved me $500-$750 from estimates to flush the transmission)
So you didn’t flush it ? You just added to it like that? And it worked?
My 2015 EcoBoost 3.5 was doing the same exact thing I put the stuff in that he recommended and it works great no issues.
Thank you so much for this video! I just got a 15 screw w/ 6.5 ft bed and the 3.5l ecoboost and the i love this truck but a week after I got it the shudder started at only when id accelerate at highway speeds. Its like im driving over a rumble strip for a brief moment and itd disappear until id accelerate again.
Thank you exactly what mine is doing. Going to try the fix today.
Your description was spot on!
5th and 6th gear especially up hill. 2015 Lincoln navigator. THANK YOU!!
You’re welcome!
Shame that it's happened so soon into your ownership of the truck. What's your opinion on this happening to the rumored Ford Maverick line releasing soon? I currently have my eyes set on it and looking to avoid potential issues down the line.
Thanks for the video, my truck stayed at dealership for 4 days, all they told me was the tires were cupping....going to try this and see if jts mt problem also
Did it fix it?
I went through the same thing, 2015 F-150, 85k miles, SAME EXACT ISSUE, just got diagnosis from dealer today, torque converter. Quoted $2960 parts and labor (parts are probably $300-400 max) from Ford dealership, could probably get it $1k cheaper shopping around, but it's a promising solution based on your experience. Thanks so much for posting this!
You're welcome! It all depends on how long the converter was shuttering for and how much the clutches slipped. If they slipped for too long, it's worn down enough where a converter would be necessary. If not, most times new fluid will do the trick!
How long is too long??😟. Mine just started doing it last nite while driving from Texas to Wyoming. It’s annoying 😒feels like shaft is gonna break into pieces
@@moerios04deville do it asap if you can. If it started from Texas to Wyoming I assume that was a little under 1000 miles so you should be okay
@@ChaseBuiltBikes i have a buddy of mine that’s going through same problem n he’s had i with tha problem for a long time n he said no one can find out wut it is. It sounds really bad compared to mine just never thought i was going to go through same issue since i just bought my truck 3 weeks ago 😠
@@moerios04deville SAME thing I had. A couple weeks after buying my truck it started shuttering. If the fluid and shutter fix doesn't work, it'll most likely be needing a torque converter
I just got a 2015 2.7 Ecoboost with 162k miles and having this EXACT same issue! I just got it yesterday and was going "oh great my transmission is going to blow up." I'm going to get the transmission drained and filled with a new filter, add some Shudder Fix and see what she does. Thanks!
My 2016 F150 XL 3.5 Duratec (non-turbo) 203k miles is doing the same thing fixed a cylinder 3 misfire (bad plug) did 6 plugs and new coil bottom boots (all Ford OEM parts) but now that the misfire studder is gone from the hard acceleration still have the pulsing shudder at low rpm (1,300-1,500) 5th/6th gear 45-55mph with very light acceleration under no load. So I appreciate you sharing your experience as I suspect torque converter issue but I was going to dive into fuel delivery diagnostics first but know I think I will do Trans fluid flush and treatment with the additive you linked. This will hopefully be the low headache approach 😅…. I bought this truck a year ago dirt cheap and the previous owner did not do any maintenance outside if and oil change every 10k so I hope this does the trick. 😊thanks for sharing. 👍🏻
You’re very welcome! Best of luck to you in your diagnosis!
Running over the bumps before a stop sign is a good descriptor, def hadn’t thought of that. 😂 same issue for me hoping this is the culprit.
Did you have delayed shift
Had the exact same problem. Your descriptive matched to the tee on what mine was doing. The fix worked as well. I hope it’s not a sign for more trouble to come. Will change filter and fluid soon.
Mine just started at 79500 miles. It shuttered but when it did the light came on but went away when I let off the pedal. When I got off the highway it did it from a stop and eventually the light stayed on. Will be checking the code today.
Thanks for the info!
Also I have the 2015 3.5 eco lariat. Has anyone had the light stay on? Also I had the trans flush done this past year
Your check engine light came on? Definitely check the code, you may be dealing with a misfire vs a trans shudder. Keep us posted on your codes please!
What was the brand and type of fluid? I have a 2010 MKS
Had this exact issue with my '16 3.5 eb F150 as well, and like you said...I ended up taking it to Ford, and had them do a full transmission fluid 'flush' and refill, and I've never had the issue return! I had no codes either...albeit now it's a going into 'limp mode' so now I'll be changing out my throttle body tomorrow. I've got 133K on the truck, so I don't mind throwing a few $$ on getting these parts new again. I bought the truck two years ago which had 126K then, so I don't put a lot of miles on the truck generally, but overall it runs great. It had a full tune up just prior to me buying it, so I've only been doing my own oil changes every 5K so far, and I got full records of everything done to the truck since new (got at the dealer it was originally sold from, as the previous owner took it there for maintenance) and the only thing to date that's been done, is one new exhaust manifold, other than maintenance & tires. Love the truck, and hoping the new throttle body fixes this 'limp mode' issue, albeit it hasn't given me a code, it was the next best thing to change, since others have had similar issues. I picked up a code reader for my tool box, and I should mention, after taking it to the dealer for this limp mode, they reprogrammed the PCM for $500. and it's still gone into limp mode 4 times since that Ford service, so I'll find it on my own.
Had the same issue on my 2016 3.5. Drove me crazy (limp mode). Never would throw a code and was intermittent.
Ended up being the throttle body. The electronics were coated with oil when I pulled it. Replaced it with one from autozone and put a catchcan on it. Problem solved.
Great information. Thanks for sharing
Man my 15 just started this almost overnight. I bought the truck with 170k on it as a one owner. It has 191k on it now. Pretty sure trans has never been touched. If this does stop the shudder, should i ever trust the truck to tow anything? Seems like a bandaid for the inevitable… unless this is a case of additive depletion over time causing it. Which a fluid change would fix. We are planning to pick up our new camper this Saturday its Wednesday right now and out of options as to picking up the camper. Thanks!
Thanks bro!! It fixed my shutter at low speeds mainly at 3rd through 6th gear. But it’s still shuttering at 75 mph and above. 😢
Update. After driving for 2 days. It’s cleared up. Thanks for this miracle juice!!!
The only thing I can say to you is thank you I got 270,000 mi on my 2016 F150 the dealer was ready to put a new transmission on my truck in I tried this and the problem went away
Thanks Man. This was the best help ever. Took it to Ford and the changed a couple of things and they didn’t know what kept causing this
No problem! I'm glad it helped. Shudders and vibrations can be a real headache to diagnose
Is this a temporary fix or a permanent one?
just got a 2022 f150 I have this issue truck has 7k miles what do you guys suggest
2015 F150 EcoBoost; I've experienced a shudder that's very similar in feel to what you & others have described. But in my case, it's noticeable at speeds below 45 & it's intermittent. Sometimes it's constant for 30+ seconds. Other times it goes away just as quickly as it starts, lasting less than a few seconds. First time I noticed it was about 20k miles ago when I had about 70k on the truck. Took the truck into the Ford dealership where I bought it & they replaced the torque converter under the extended warranty & I also paid to have the plugs replaced. The problem seemed to go away for about 3 months (during the summer months of Wisconsin). But it's been back again since September. Unfortunately, I can't recreate on demand the pattern at which it happens to be able to diagnose the problem. Has anyone experienced a loss of power when the shudder is apparent or reduced gas mileage? I'm not opposed to trying the LubeGard Shudder Fix unless it just masks a bigger problem. Suggestions?
Hey sorry for the late response, with a reduce in power, and a reduce in gas mileage, I’m thinking more engine related vs transmission related. If you have access to a scan tool, it would be a good idea to check into the “mode 6” option of the scan tools, this will give you information on each cylinder, and the misfire count for the cylinders. That would give you a good indication of each cylinder and be easy to track down if you’re experiencing a miss. A common issue on the older ecoboosts was that oil would collect in the intercooler, and eventually it would get into the intake causing a intermittent misfire, some solved this with a catch can, others solved it by drilling a tiny seep hole into the bottom hose nipple of the intercooler. Also, being it happens on the cooler months of the year, it could be moisture in the intercooler that isn’t able to burn off quite as fast since the engine takes longer to reach operating temperature.
It could be a number of things causing your issue. A converter shudder is generally very easy to recreate, and will happen nearly every time you drive the vehicle. Hope this helps!
Thank you so much.. fixed the problem for me..
@Chase636RR Thanks so much for this info! I have a 2015F150 3.5L Ecoboost with the 6R80E transmission. Has 155K mi. I just got it at 145K. Same shudder issue you described. Got a dealer quote for TC around $2400. That’s IF they determine that to be the cause. I’ve checked around independent shops and they’re around 1700-2000 for TC but same qualification…may need full rebuild. Saw the Ford Tech (FlyingWrenches) on TH-cam describe this also and he said it usually does not need a rebuild just the TC and that Shudder Stop was effective but temporary.
I took to an independent shop that had been recommended by 3 different shops as fair/expert tranny place. They want $5k for a full rebuild!! Their description sounds alot like what you said: “TC engaging at every shift/losing pressure throughout unit.”
I can get a full flush/filter done for $375 and add the ShudderStop. That’s what I’m leaning toward first. I’d be ok with paying 1700-2000 for TC alone but $5k for a full rebuild from an independent shop (however well regarded) just seems way steep to me. I have a pretty entry level code scanner so don’t think I can check the pressure so will give Shudder a try and see how it goes. How long has that remedy been working for you now? Months? Thanks
What did you end up doing?
Interested in what direction you went
Trying this ASAP. We've been having this exact issue for a few years. Just had to send to dealer with multiple codes thrown. Got timing chain replaced and a bunch of other crap. $4800 later it still shudders, but not like it did when it threw the codes, so that must have been a different issue. Let's hope this works. We really don't want to get rid of our Expedition.
Did it work?
Mine is doing the same thing. 45-80 on acceleration would vibrate under my seat. It is much worse under load and going up hills. Loss of power going up hills as well. Mine is a 2016 3.5L Eco and I'm going to change out the trans fluid and filter. Hopefully, that's fixes it. A ford dealer told me it was going to cost me 3000 to fix the torque converter.. thanks for the video, bud!
Not a problem! Hope that fixes it. If you wanted to see before dropping the money on a filter and fluid, try that shudder fix if you want! It works wonders.
@@ChaseBuiltBikes what kind did you buy and where at?
@@JakeSetzer I bought Lube Guard shudder fix. You can find it at advanced auto it runs about $7-8 for the tube. I also put a link to it in the description for an amazon link.
One thing that helped me diagnose my issue alot to was watching the tac with the gear indicator. The TCC will engage about halfway through 3rd gear, you can feel it or hear it, it almost seems like the truck shifts to 4th but if you watch the gear indicator you'll be in 3rd still. Watch the gear indicator with the tac, and if your vibration starts to happen when, or after the TCC has been engaged (halfway through 3rd gear) you know you're dealing with a Converter clutch issue.
Also with the lube guard, I set mine in warm water for about 5 minutes before putting it in, it just made it flow out of the tube better since it's cold in the winters where I'm at, just made it easier to put in. Good luck!
Thanks brother for the video. My 2013 F150 just started doing the same thing. I'm going to try the shudder fix. Thanks again.
The older 4R70W trans (going back to the 90s) had this issue. The cure was a full flush of Mercon V (ford approved procedure, these use another Fluid). Problem was The friction modifiers got depleted. Some early ones also used a different fluid and required an upgrade.
2007 Ford Expedition. I used the shudder fix and has fixed my issue for now. But should I do a transmission flush or change? If it turns out have to replace torque converter will I have to pay for new transmission fluid again?
It depends on when your transmission was last serviced/ mileage. Most times, just a fluid change will fix the issue. If you'd like to get ALL the old fluid out, including the fluid in the converter the only way to do that is with a flush. Just be careful if you do a flush since it's known to cause issues on high milage transmissions. (Removes the "grit" from wear that helps with friction) and it all depends on how you or the shop removes the trans to replace the converter. You'll have to buy trans fluid either way because the converter needs to be filled a certain amount before installation. If you decide to drain the pan when you remove the trans, you'll have to buy all the fluid again, but if you don't drain the pan, you'll still have to buy some fluid to put into the converter.
Awesome video bro have the same issue with my f150
I just bought a platinum and this same thing is happing to me i bought the shudder fix and ill see what happens. she drives great no problems no power loss just does that weird shake when im giving it a little bit of throttle around 45mph
I just copped a 15 platinum and mine is doing the same with 113k miles. Did the shudder fix work ? I’m considering trying it out too.
@@jamelleboykin2860 yea bro it worked for a while maybe like 3 months but then i got my trans fixed after it started again bc i had the money
Did you ever change the fluid and filter after the shudder fix additive worked? Or just drive it as is until it happened again?
Sounded like rumble strips?
I’m having this problem but I get the code p0402 could it be my cats?
Just bought my 2015 a month ago. Having same issue. Mine starts as soon as I start pulling a grade or going up a hill. Took it to dealership yesterday they said they couldn't make it do it. I'm pretty sure they didn't drive it like they said. Because the thing does it if you look at it wrong!!! Going back Friday to show them how to drive i guess with the ( parts changer, read mechanic here).
I've been hearing alot of people say the same thing you're saying! They'll take it to the dealer and they "can't find it, or can't replicate it" I could replicate mine everytime whenever I wanted to. I'm glad I avoided the dealership headache! I'm a technician by trade. If they still can't find anything when you take it there have them monitor the torque converter with a scan tool, if they can't feel it, they'll see it in the parameters on the scan tool
My shutter seems to do it in 6th gear mostly
Thank you sir dealer wanted to charge me $2600. Thank you again
Mine was having the same issue,
But the vibration continued and didnt stop until i pulled over on the side of the freeway, once i was completely stopped the vibration got really bad and i had to shut off the vehicle.then i turned it back on and the vibration stopped
My mechanic told me it was the engine coils and spark plugs
He replaced all spark plugs and only 1 coil
I got my truck back and once again its the same issue but even worse...
I’m having the same issue but on a 2018 10spd. Should this still work on a 10spd? Thanks
It'll work on the 10spd!
How did you go about getting the shudder fix in? Before i attempt it from trying to squeeze it in the hole directly laying on the ground and making a mess.
It comes in a real small tube, so it’s super easy to take the dipstick out of the top of the trans, and you can squeeze it right into the dipstick hole
Hey thanks for the video! I'm currently getting a shutter now with no check engine light. Curious tho if you were getting the shutter to while in park and reving the motor?
You’re welcome! And I was not no. Mine would only happen about halfway through 3rd gear after the TCC solenoid activated.
i have a 2015 ford focus and it shudders like crazy when accelerating from low speeds. I'm thinking of putting the lubegard in to see if it fixes it, could it cause problems if it's not a torque convertor problem?
It won’t cause any issues adding it in if it’s not shuddering.
I have this issue with my 15 f150, I had a tranny flush and filter change and it still keeps slipping. Not sure what to do next
You could try adding a tube of shudder fix to see if that tones it down or fixes it. If it still slips with the shudder fix, the next step is to replace the torque converter unfortunately.
Fixed my issue going in for trans fluid and filter change 2016 f150 2.7 6r80 130,000 pretty sure the trans has never been serviced, I’m the second owner thought it was ujoints at first then change spark plugs cleaned sensors nothing until I put this friction additive in
I have brand new 2023 f150 my passenger seat and hood has bad vibration and Shaking. Dealership can't figure it out
I have this issue to the T. I thought it was transmission but I did plugs anyway. No change so I’m gonna grab some shudder stop today because I’ve gotta pull a trailer a few hours then I’ll flush it when I get a chance! Did you happen to have to replace the converter or is everything fine after the fluid and filter change?
I didn't have to replace my converter. After the fluid and filter change I've put over 10k miles since and haven't had a shudder!
@@ChaseBuiltBikes awesome thanks! I've added the shudder fix for the mean time and it has completed stopped the issue. I checked fluid before I added it though and mine is quite dirty in need of a change. At least it doesn't smell burnt.
I just bought my truck. 2015 XLT 3.5 and includes for no extra fee, shudder. Also I got misfires. So replaced all coils and plugs.
Question on the plugs, I checked the gap and the book says .32 but these gapped at like, .38 or higher?? I left em alone for now, got rid my misfire codes, but the shudder is still there. So I guess I need to pull the pan and change the filter on that transmission then add the anti foam..I mean shudder stop additive? Is this about right? Thx for the heads up in these damn things.
My plugs are gapped at .35 and running good. Yeah what I did is drop the pan, drain out the fluid in the pan, new filter, then pumped about 6-7 qts of new fluid in and it removed my shudder.
Mine started shuttering to the point where I get the check engine light to start flashing then goes away, scanned it and it’s throwing a code, I have a 2015 3.5 with 160k miles on it. Code says it’s a transmission sensor should I still top it off?
Update! Turned out to be cylinder 4 was misfiring and that’s what was causing my “shudder” 😅 $100 fix🙌🏼
Still working well?
Still working very well!
Is this safe to use on a 2016 F-150 Ecoboost 3.5L? I’m running into the same shuddering issue when attempting to accelerate above 60MPH. I got a check engine light with a P0302 misfire on cylinder 2. Had a mechanic look and say nothing is wrong and cleared the code, I’m still shuddering at that speed. Wondering if this is the correct solution.
I would keep an eye on the misfire to see if it comes back. A misfire will cause the same issue as the shutter, but the additive is safe to use in a 2016, do you have a 6 speed or 10 speed transmission?
What fluid did you use and brand filter I’m having this problem in my 15 platinum f-150
I used motorcraft Mercon LV and a motorcraft filter. Do you have the 6spd transmission?
Listen, I had three times failed coil packs, and prior to my downshift to first recall, which reset the transmission module but they also reset the behavior of the OBD two system and misfires would not stick an engine light.
It took me 30 miles before I was willing to go on the highway at the top of fourth gear and lean on that gas.
Everything and every single symptom pointed to torque converter shudder.
I even added the 2 ounces, but when I laid my transmission fluid on a white napkin, it was as pink as baby skin….. That is when I went for a ride and I went along way until 200 Fahrenheit was reached for the transmission fluid temperature and then I leaned on it on the highway after I hit fourth gear because I still felt the shudder… after Ellen on that fuel gas paddle at the top end of 3500 RPM and fourth gear is when I forced the check engine light to start flashing…. But this is the difference. This is also the negligence of Ford after the recall for the downshift to first in the reset of the transmission control module power control module, and the OBD two behavior. The check engine light did not sensing misfire cylinder five. When I got back, zero engine light on I connected the reader and it read misfire cylinder 5. 0305 whatever the number is.. The majority of people complaining about downshift shudder-- get to 60+ mph in fourth -- lean on gas like a race truck-- hit 3500rpm. It will trigger and hold it there as it isn’t severe at that rpm for a moment. Suddenly it is ALLOWED TO TRIP P030x -- flash check engine light and then once it isn’t sensed it shuts the mf light off !!!!!! This is negligence all day long. I read codes after and the code is there yet NO ENGINE LIGHT ON. This is seriously not good. Misfire sensed and then blind someone will drop the hammer and stall or die.
I had the TCM recall already-- this is what caused this behavior. Completely conscious negligence -- FORD is out of their minds.
Same. Here mine is very mild tho going to change filter and add the shudder fix the flush worries me have terrible luck with tranns
Best of luck to ya!
So you just squeezed the shudder fix directly in the transmission dipstick fill? Also Did u do it when tranny was cold or hot? I just started having what seems to be same thing about a week ago. Got a 2016 3.5 ecoboost with 93k. I’m going to go buy the quick fix tube tomorrow because it’s very annoying with the shutter. Thanks for the video
Yeah, you squeeze it right into the dipstick fill. I did it when the trans was hot, I also set the lubeguard in some warm water beforehand to heat that up aswell. It thins it out and makes it easier to squeeze.
What model scanner are you using to see the pressures?
I'm using a launch crp 123
How do you add the shudder fix? Do you add it through the dip stick plug on top of the transmission, or is there somewhere else that you add it? I have this same problem, and would like to add the instant shudder fix to see if that gives me a temporary fix.
You’ll add it right into the dip stick tube on the top of the transmission, same place as where you would add normal trans fluid
"through the dip stick plug on top of the transmission"....Yup! ;-(
Kind of a dumb question but how do I add the shudder fix to the trans? I can’t seem to find any dipstick or cap in engine bay on my 2015 2.7.
There is no conventional dipstick on these transmissions. If you go underneath your truck, on the passenger side, the fill cap and dipstick will be located on the passenger side of the transmission, about mid trans, on top of a ledge on the side of the trans. You’ll see it there, it’s almost lined up with the catalytic converter. You’ll need a 19mm or 3/4” wrench to remove the plug. Once you got that out you’ll have a small plastic dipstick that will come out, once you have that out you can add the shudder fix through that dipstick hole. Hope this helps!
Just trying to figure out if link for shudder fix is compatible with 2017 f150 2.7 ecoboost
Yes it is, you can add the whole tube, just make sure and check the level of fluid before and after to make sure it's not too high or low.
2015 lincoln navigator. Exact same issue here.
My new 21 3.5 f150 seems to have a rough feel once I hit 3000rpms and continues till 3400 rpm does that sound like torque shutter? They changed and gapped the plugs still getting this weird wear or light hum at 3000 rpm
That sounds like a converter shudder to me. You’ll want to watch your tachometer and see if while the rough feeling is happening, if the rpms increase slightly. Usually a converter shudder will happen in 3rd gear while the converter lockout engages
Damn that cab drone