The Shroud of Turin - Fact or Fiction
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This is my interview with Barrie Schwortz rom the Shroud of Turin Education and Research Association which runs www.shroud.com. We talk about how Barrie became a member of the first team of scientific researchers to examine the shroud, what their research discovered, and how it changed his life.
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I'm from Turin! I love my city and its history and I saw the Shroud once when I was little. The chapel in which it's normally conserved is a masterpiece of Piedmontese baroque by architect Guarino Guarini, commissioned by the duke Carlo Emanuele of Savoy in 1611-1667. One thing that makes this very underestimated city of Italy famous is indeed the Shroud.
Wrongly underestimated, because Turin is a wonderful city with fine architecture and a "stile" of its own.
And you have FIAT, correct?
@@ven1805 correct. The FIAT industries were here. At some point they failed and they messed them up, but they were still an important part of the history of this city and Italy. Now FIAT doesn't exist anymore, it's been bought by a series of other bigger, more successful foreign car brands
Wow
When will the Shroud be available to visitation again? I would like to visit it some day, if I may in this decade.
Barry's a great guy. He actually responds to emails.
Yes he responded to mine... hes a wonderful man...
The first time I read about this research was in a magazine called unexplained, in the early 80s (I was 13 or 14 years of age) in Belfast, Ireland. The magazine consisted of various stories about ESP, UFOs and the Shroud of Turin. It was around 11pm when I started reading about the Shroud, the house was empty apart from an elderly aunt and myself. The house was part of a terrace block and anyone who would visit , would do this from the front door. A strange thing occurred as I read the story about the shroud, a feeling of euphoric elation came over me, a feeling that I was reading about something that was profoundly sacred. But at the very same moment the outside door handle at the back of the house started to rattle as if someone or something wanted into the house. This movement of the door handle persisted for about a minute, then stopped. When I walked to the door no one was there. Considering no one used that back door particularly if they were visiting and because of the late hour, the event was more than unsettling, it was quite frightening. There seemed like a supernatural element to the whole event, something I can't shake off all these years after.
Stay away from the aliens for they are demonic entities. Watch in the morning the video UFOs, nephilim Giants, and the early church fathers by defeat modernism.
@@jacobitewiseman3696 true!
bollocks
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock."
@Darren good for you! Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ!
I'm 76 and long since accepting of the dispelling medieval theory and haven't given this a second thought since. I am amazed and taken aback by this information.
Having stood directly in front of this beautiful image, twice, just 10 feet away, you have absolutely no IDEA what it’s like, until you have done the same. I don’t use the word awsome often, very few awsome things for me. Terrific, beautiful, wonderful , but NEVER awsome. THIS IS AWSOME. Human words cannot describe this. My Lord is so creative.
Let's not forget that the Disciples of Jesus saw him as He Transfigured as a blinding brilliance on The Mount. It is written in The Gospel. Amen
"A picture is worth (more than) 1000 words." The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
Love the way you thoughtfully guided the conversation while mostly respectfully listening.
Skilled
Had exactly the opposite reaction. Brian seemed preoccupied with his notes and talking points. Frankly he seemed impatient at times with the enthusiastic guest. It's an age thing. When you get to the last of your competent years--and dwindling time is at the forefront of your thoughts--you are rushed to get it all out, what you've learned, what's important to know. A joyful brain dump while the mechanism still works. Brian is at the center of his intellectual/soul pursuits. Measured and focused, keeping a complex life in hand. All appropriate, if in this case a tad rude to my eyes. As I said, it's an age thing.
As usual
@@dannybaseball2444 going on almost 90 years, brain still sharp as a tack, I fully understand what you are saying, Mr. Dan. I have stood very close to the Shroud, twice in my long life. Awesome, beautiful, inspiring, holy. And I do love Brian, he is so ....NOW.
@@garobinson33 Truly an awesome, beautiful and inspiring piece of medieval art. The guy who made it was a genius.
And you do a great job managing the pacing and the questioning of your guests as well as balancing that with their time to answer and expound
Brian Holdsorth, thank you so much for hosting this interview. Barrie, always wonderful seeing you speak so passionately about your experiences with the science of the Shroud of Turin.
Very well done by Brian, and excellent responses from Barrie. Altogether one of the best ( and most recent ) Shroud videos on youtube
I am very pleased to have stumbled across this, I followed the work back in the seventies, as a teen in high school, and throughout, and always considered the "evidence" of fake must have been taken from "the repaired section", despite denials throughout the years. I'd studied the pictures in the museum, copies probably, and in magazines, Pop. Mechanics, Science, Discover, and considered it absolute, from my own perspective. It was clear to me, from simply the magazine pictures of the seventies, the vast difference between the original, and the repaired material, it was well dated by history, fire repairs and such, so this is vindicating the Shroud finally, in public, open.
I'm a Christian, wasn't at the time, although a believer, just stubborn, and am pleased it's still being fought, it always demonstrates the resistant to the "old truths", which I saw at three, six, in Spain and Italy, a "navy brat", walking through history with elder sister, and Librarian Mom, I'm very pleased to see this brought out like this. Thank you very much. Semper Fidelis, John McClain, GySgt, USMC, ret.
Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.
What a gem to find during Lent! I am grateful to Barrie Schwortz for giving this interview, and thank you, Brian, for an interview that goes beyond this sacred relic itself and also explores the impact this has had on Mr. Schwortz, too.
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I was suspicious of the authenticity of the shroud until I saw the radiographic evidence. Having a background in radiology, I realized this was proof positive this man was the resurrected Christ!!!
What about chromosome samples apparently only being of a mother? Is that an authentic fact?
@@Brother_Jack hematology from the blood on the shroud
The thing is fake. It is proven. The dating proved it to be a fake. The weave was not from the first century. Only one team was ever allowed to examine it. There were multiple shrouds claimed to be those from Jesus. One was even claimed to have performed miracles but was later discovered to be Muslim.
@@DaveCM I thought they showed that the carbon dating was flawed.
@@DaveCM he talked about this in this video. When it was carbon dated, the sample they took was from the part where the shroud was repaired after being damaged in a fire around the 11th century,. Watch the video dude, then comment.
Great format!
I love your monologues. Still, interviews here and there, focusing on topics like this help build one's imagination in their beliefs. These things are genuinely interesting and compelling in and of themselves. In a religion which some can feel so bored with or feel that the regiment and routine is maybe suffocating sometimes, these are the things that help bring me back into a passion and genuine interest in my beliefs
It's amazing, the photographer validated the shroud in every aspect that he talks about but yet is so stubborn that he doesn't want to believe his own findings.
He does believe. He openly says it's Jesus. What is your point? Does he have to call him God or something? That is NOT going to happen. His JOB was to prove or disprove the Shroud. He, and many many others, PROVED it is authentic.
I love Barrie Schwortz! He *will* come home eventually...prayer will do the rest. :D In the meantime, I think the fact that he's *not* yet a Christian lends his research and his website more credibility. God knows what He's doing.
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I AGREE THE JEWS NEED TO EMBRACE CHRIST NOW AS THEIR MESSIAH COZ HE TRULY IS
Hundreds of generations of humans have lived and died saying "he's coming back soon, no, really he is this time!"
Christians are the most gullible humans on the planet.
Barry Schwartz is a fantastic man... hes testimony is worth his weight on gold, I belive this man... and he's a good man.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
@@allingtonmarakan1436 you disagree?
@YAJUN YUAN ohh okay and your source?
When we lived in Germany we went to a cathedral where the shroud was displayed, along with artifacts..the omnipresent was humbling at best...there are zero words for it....
Thank you so much for sharing this interview!...
OMG! Thank youuu! 🙏 for this interview, it was a pleasure to listen to.
Hi, this is a friendly rebuke when you say the omg thing its actually blasphemy. Because your taking the name of God invain. Without due honor.Godly Jews don't write or even say his name because its so Holy.
@@jonathannixon8652 silly question….but what abut when we meant to say “gush” not god.
Those who appreciate (are grateful) will appreciate (increase; get more). That's the meaning of the parable of the talents. And here is more: The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. You shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
It’s sad that there are so many articles out there that claim the Shroud is a fake, and they use sources that they misrepresent to suggest it’s fake. This interview has been an eye opener! Thank you
What’s even more sad, is how gullible religious folks are and buy into these scams so easily….
@@therealatheistexperience7654 What’s even more sad is that anti-theists believe that everything can from nothing.
@@gch8810 so who created the " creator"? And what evidence do you have for those claims?🤔
@@therealatheistexperience7654 Logically nothing could have because he was not created. I say this as if it were a proven fact, but it's not, of course, materially provable. It's logically demonstrable, however.
There are only two options open to us; either we accept SOME uncreated creator, OR we accept the notion of infinite energy.
That is to say, as Aristotle said, all created things must, by definition, have a creator. As you yourself note, this continues ad infinitum. You have parents, have parents, have parents, back through evolution until we have the first life on earth, which was created by free carbon, which was created by atmosphere around the earth, etc, back to the big bang. This is fairly standard secular thought, right?
So we can either suppose that the big bang was caused by something that existed in advance of it; or it was there before anything.
But if it regresses infinitely, how can it not progress infinitely? And if we accept an infinite big bang, how is that meaningfully different from a creator, from the limited perspective of natural logic?
So then we proceed further, and we suppose some other infinite creative force, which in a series of creations, was not itself created.
Now I hear many people say that they could imagine a universe which goes on infinitely; the big bang theory fails to support this, given that the universe continues to accelerate outward and shows no signs of potential retraction. But this operates by the same theory as the infinite energy machine, which powers itself indefinitely. Science has derided and will continue to deride such things as a physical impossibility, and I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. But then, whence motive creation in the universe?
@@soulcutterx13 Special pleading for your non-existent sky wizard. Everything that exists had to have a beginning, (according to WIlliam Lame Cwaig), so when did your god begin and what caused him to begin existing? Rational thinkers do NOT believe everything came from nothing. For a start, define 'nothing'. "NO-THING" does not exist. Even in the supposedly empty vacuum of space, fundamental particles are popping in and out of existence all the time.
I saw a documentary on the various speculations how an image like this could have been made/ emerged. One of them said this was made in the moment of the resurrection as an unimaginably strong light emanated from the body itself. I am very much drawn to this idea and the explanations seemed to hold together very neatly. I cannot understand why there is such silence, almost embarrassment, around the Shroud. Everybody drops it like a hot potato when it has been proven time and time again that this is not a forgery.
I heard the light emitted theory. I've always wondered why the hair and beard would emit light. It's dead protein cells. The body I get why it might emit radiation, but hair?
@@allenanderson4911 There is dna there - Our Lord DNA. We are talking about a divine person, I'd say this is not simply "dead protein cells", it's divine protein cells.
Your last sentence explains everything. There are opposing forces that benefit from the confusion.
I have heard DNA has light - and the moment of the RESURRECTION every cell came alive
I've come across that one too. That the amount of light was way beyond our capacity to recreate even with our most advanced technology. There is also a video out there that used the shroud to generate a 3D composite of Christ's body. Where they estimated over 600~800 wounds to his body. May have been the same documentary actually.
Big Thanks to Barry...a smart humble honest person chosen to expound the shroud. May God bless him...
Really excellent Video. Barry comes over as so authentic,and you conducted the interview very effectively.
Let us pray for the continual working of the Holy Spirit in the heart of Barrie Schwortz that he may truly see that Man in the shroud for who He is, and that he will come to everlasting faith.
Amen
Barrie Schwortz was of Jewish heritage origin and faith but is now Catholic in case people don't know
He found the true Church founded by Jesus Christ himself by studying the Holy Shroud
The shroud was created from the energy, remember the one story where he ran into Mary and he told her not to touch him. It was an energy force of his spirit
Can't fulfill God's promises if we save all jews today now can we. Lol
@Islayman.you Failed to work me with respect, whats with the hateful tone and name calling, is this your work you belive in? Its nothing to get upset over. Apoerantly your uneducated to all theology and fear knowing all things as scripture encourages us to do .
But If ya want understand ,
With good faith your clearly going to perform good works.
Its not a by faith argument ,its one made a big deal by higher archy church structures that must push works. Ita at yiur foundation of theology it influences doctrine from very start down. You lose free will it become demernistic God creating humans for hell. By grace of God alone. It covers no one that way .
All churches agree we live in the church age . Pre temple is under mosaic law in this age its a time of sacrifice "works' and "faith" clearly noah had to have faith to then work on a boat.lol. Here in church age it is no calling for such encantations ,works of sacrifice or anything of this ritualistic nature. Remembrance is it.
Tribulation is all works. Gonna require work to refuse the mark of the beast.
By faith is removing that one foot from this human world corrupted by the sin of man and Satan. Its choosing a pure path to be chosen to go and pave the way along with those few martyrs in waiting. First he takes the dead them living. They will sit on his right shoulder and prepare the way. Then the first seal of Tribulation is broken. .
You can make that concoius decision to stay behind and help. By doing so you can have the wealth of this world you like along the way. Enrich yourself in canes world by doing so you enrich the church power and influence. This is your calling not mine .
Loved this presentation. I'm thankful for this man's work and testimony. Sadly the "Jesus-as-a-brave guy-who-died-for-what-he-belived-in" as the highest praise he can muster is a flat note to any Christian. As C.S. Lewis said about the notion that Christ was a great teacher and that's enough, "It's not an option. He didn't make it available to us. He was either precisely who He said He was or a madman on a par with a man who claims he's a poached egg." At least he admitted he hasn't completely dismissed the idea he might be wrong. A shoe dropped in his deliberations back in the 90s. Let's pray for the other shoe to drop. He's got one foot in the dugout. Would love to have him on the team full time. God bless you, Mr Holdsworth, for your exceptional online presence and Catholic witness.
The evidence for the shroud being genuine is staggering. God bless
False the evidence is staggering its mid evil lol
@Cathy Greene No evidence for any thing Mystical lol
@Cathy Greene
Or… it’s a forgery that wasn’t mentioned by anyone ever until the 13th century.
And there were many other fake shrouds that came earlier.😂
@@ShroudofTurinISAuthentic NOT
This interview is exceptional! I have never heard a more informed individual on this topic! This is deep powerful content!
Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.
I have been reading about the Holy Shroud since I was a child, (I am 80 years old). I was fascinated by the story of the first photo by the Italian photographer. The camera was a fairly new contraption at that time and the first photo that was made of the Shroud did reveal the first miracle.
Your 80? Any proof?
@@Lion_Hamza You're proof? Any 80?!
Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.
Very cool. You could write an article on your perspective over time. 👍🙏
@@sotem3608 Proof 80? You’re any?
The Fatima center has wonderful info on the shroud. I believe the shroud is the burial cloth of Christ. I look at the face of Jesus everyday.
Barrie Schwortz is interesting. It goes to show you no matter how much evidence people can still deny the resurrection.
I am from Berks County Pennsylvania. I visit the Padre Pio shrine ...it's not far from where I live. God is with us.
A miracle is a miracle ...
“Blessed are those who have not seen but believed,”
Amen
The documented history is The Shroud itself. The Shroud is it’s best witness. We know where The Shroud has been through the 54+ pollen samples that The Shroud contains. That cloth has traveled a lot during it’s existence, and The Shroud has a story to tell. We know The Shroud was weaved around the southern most point of the Dead Sea. The Shroud moved to the northern most point of the Dead Sea. The Shroud was in Jerusalem, and then Turkey. We know The Shroud was on an island mentioned in The Holy Bible in the care of Paul. The Shroud visited south Eastern Europe before finding it’s way to France where it was in a fire. Some scholars say The Shroud was in to fires. The Shroud found it’s way to Turin, and then was moved to Rome for awhile, and then found it’s way back to Turin. The Holy Shroud has a story that can be supported by written documentation. GOD Bless!
When I'm on the first glorious mystery, the shroud is the first thing that pops in my head.
Great program. Thank you for the presentation. Blessings and prayers for you and your ministry.
You look bored and anxious to get onto your next question. Forgetting that you are on camera. He is fabulous! So energetic and enthusiastic ! AND knowledgeable !!
Thank you
Hello, I have followed this good man Barrie, for many years and also the Shroud. This is from Jesus Christ, definately. It proves that something special happened 2000 years ago and should point us to the Bible and to the message of salvation Jesus preached and after that Paul and the other apostles. Forgiveness is preached to those who believe and also a gift of becoming children of God by the new birth, if we repent and turn our lives around to do good and live righteously. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus was the Jewish Messaih who was rejected by the authorities and was killed and His death God used to save mankind.
CHECK 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 15 VERSE 51 ....SAINT PAUL SAID BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY ..I BELIEBE 100% SAINT PAUL SHOWED THE SHROUD OF HEAVENLY LIGHT TO THE CORINTHIANS
@@marieloucaccam500 The mystery Paul was showing is not the shroud, it is what is going to happen at the resurrection.
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This was a fascinating and insightful interview. Thanks to you Brian, and Barrie, for this dialogue. God bless you both.
P.S. Nice chalice.
I was thinking the same thing about that “nice chalice”. 🤩🙏🏼
Oh Boy! This conversation really moved me. True and wonderful 👍
Splendid presentation,, many thanks to you and Mr. Schwortz. Please convey my thanks to him next time you are in touch.
A little FYI family and friends full of archaeologists who deal with carbon 14 dating: you will have to use other methods because the shroud has been in an intense fire and is made of linen, one of the materials whic "re-sets" its carbon 14 clock back to the beginning in the presence of intense fire conditions. Whether you take a sample from the original cloth or from the 14th century repair patches, they both will show the same date result: the time of the fire.
Clay does the same thing, which is how the "re-set" was discovered some years ago in London: a row of medieval foundations was subjected to archaeological survey prior to putting new buildings in site. It was a provable fact that these were medieval buildings, spanning a number of centuries among them. Yet the C14 testing showed them to be exactly the same age and the date given for their creation was WW2. That's because all these buildings were destroyed be Hitler's fire-bombing of parts of London. And the buildings were clay brick. This launched a series of studies to find out what ELSE "re-sets" in fire. Linen is one such material. So all the debate about C14 testing is moot.
When all of us other humans die, that’s one thing. But when the Creator of the universe, the Alpha and the Omega, the “I Am” dies, no wonder a special phenomenon accompanies the event.
It’s kind of a big deal!
Shelly that's when He returned to life
@@mjramirez6008 , yes, of course!
And I always kind of assumed that the image on the shroud was made at the moment of resurrection. I imagine that was a moment accompanied by tremendous power and energy.
But when I realized from watching this video that the image is of a dead man, it made me think more deeply about what it meant for God (God!) to die.
God didn’t die.
Shelly Imagawa So you Creationist believer? FYI the idea of a Creator went out the window around sixty or so years or so with the emergence of Evolution which, as a matter of record, is taught in every major University in the world including Oxford and Cambridge.
@@timward3142 Major universities teach many things, critical race theory for instance. (as if there was more than one race of human being).
Tell me sir, what tree did Adam and Eve eat from? It was the tree of knowledge.
The wisdom of men is foolishness to God. Science is theory. A deduction of men. It is not fact nor is it set in stone. It is partial truth or some truth mixed with much assumption. Theory is not fact. An example would be with our current situation. The “science”has changed much hasn’t it? The men of science can’t figure out things happening right now, much less things that happened thousands of years ago. Science tells us that the entire universe expanded from something smaller than a single atom. If that is truly the case, That sounds like creation to me friend.
Isaiah “44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone. KJV
Look at the wording. He STRETCHED FORTH the Heavens. Sounds like science agrees with scripture friend.
What does science say the first organisms come from? I believe their description is primordial ooze. From earth. From water and soil. What does God say Adam is created from?
Genesis “2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”KJV
Also, God created the beasts of the earth and the foul of the air before he created man. All of this fits perfectly with science doesn’t it? Man was Gods final creation. The scientific timeline of events fits with this doesn’t it? Man has not been on this earth long. Before you go on saying that God created the heavens and the earth in only six days, realize that you are determining your time by a planet that didn’t exist spinning around a star that didn’t exist. Kind of foolish when you think about it. The Bible tells us that a man’s life is but the blink of an eye to God. If that is so, how long is a day to God? Think about it.
You can put your faith in science. I will put my faith in God.
God Bless
Wow. That was an amazing interview!
I would simply like to extend and Thank you to Mr. Schwartz!! Nice job with your interview!!!
Thank you so much Brian Holdsworth. It was very interesting to listen to Barry Schwartz
dude, this was FASCINATING! awesome job, brian.
A phenomenal Interview with great questions.
Wonderful testimony... thank you so much.
I have studied the shroud for years…no question in my mind that’s it’s real and authentic.
scientists in 21st century cannot duplicate the shroud or come even close to the shroud, let alone some medieval guy could do it back then, right...
@@commendatore2516 It isn't the purview of scientists to reproduce the Shroud. Several artists have produced copies of the Shroud or portions of it, however, using materials available during medieval times. Joe Nickell has demonstrated a number of times how the Shroud was made using powdered aloes and cotton daubers.
Well John, what's your definition of "studying"?
100 percent its old, 100 percent it never covered Jesus or any other human for that matter.
@@Gwaithmir bullshit
What difference does it make what belief system? 'Who do you say that I Am?' It may take a long time, but the Truth will out .. if we dare to let it. And that, my dears, is the stark reality required in the Catholic Faith, whether we/ our pastors currently like it or not ... ;o)
St Joseph : Stand by us.
Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek.
God bless. ;o)
P.S. A very big thank you to Barrie Schwortz for all his sterling effort in getting the 'message' out there. A longish chat with Gospel Simplicity would be another real treat .. if possible.
TRUTH is at the core of all religions. But you have to MINE in order to FIND. (Blind faith is blind.) The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. You shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
Oh sick an hour plus interview
Pleasant surprise thanks man
This is excellent. Great job on the video, and very interesting guest👍
This is a very well done video, on one of my favorite topics, from one of my favorite channels. What’s NOT to like? Thanks Brian, and keep up the good work!
One of my favorite topics, as well. And I have some "inside information." The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah, but you shouldn't believe that since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
Awesome job man, great interview
Thank you Barrie for your work . You are so awesome.
I like the fact that there is a confident measure of uncertainty in Barrie’s mind and that he is able to hold that tension in one hand while simultaneously believing in God fully in the other, is impressive! If we demand certitude in this situation, then in essence, the Shroud becomes and idol. Whereas the image itself, asks us to have faith that he did in fact rise from his death.
I wonder: are you planning to do videos other miraculous things (St Juan Diego's tilma, for example) or events (like the miracles at Fatima)? Because that would be a cool series.
I suppose it depends if you're wanting to do an interview show for each. Either way, I'd enjoy them!
Brian the people demand it you must deliver! +1 vote for Our Lady of Guadalupe
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I would love that...I would like to add the image left in the rock at Our Lady of Las Lajas!
We have a good and loving God!
I believe that He knows, as humans, that these tangible things really helps us with our faith!
Eucharistic Miracles are amazing too!
Thank you Jesus! 🌷
Yes! A video on my favorite..Our Lady of Guadalupe plz! Last night I was looking in both of my calendars and they didn’t have the feast day for Our Lady of Guadalupe. Wasn’t sure why that was…
Ooh yes ! And travel is a tax write off!
The paint on the seam is chipping. The moon was repainted to be larger. The original crown was removed by painting over it. The gold stars were a later addition. When did Juan Diego ever exist?
I believe in lots of things but I don't have to believe everything.
I didn't know that Robert Deniro was working with the shroud of Turin for 27 years, amazing.
Thanks Brian, very well done!
Excellent! Barrie Schwortz is the best voice in the discussion of the shroud.
Back in the fall of 2019 I attended an exhibit of the Shroud here in Langley, BC at St Joseph's parish. It was presented by Dr Cheryl White, a board member of STERA and an associate of Mr Schwortz. This event was the first time I had heard in any kind of depth an examination of the evidence revealed by the studies conducted by the team Mr Schwortz was a part of. Previous to that my only knowledge was that commonly perpetuated in the popular culture (medieval forgery, debunked by scientists in the 80s, etc). Dr White was exceptionally impressive in her discourse on the topic, going into great detail about the history of the Shroud as well as the findings from both the initial studies and the later controversies.
While I agree wholeheartedly with the statement that "For those with faith no evidence is necessary, and for those without no evidence will suffice", the existence of the Shroud and the passionate dedication of the people who pass on their intimate knowledge of it only deepens and enriches my faith in our Lord and saviour, Jesus Christ.
To clarify: the exhibit was *on* the Shroud, complete with full-size replica, but not *of* the actual Shroud itself.
"examination of the evidence"
Doesn't evidence destroy faith?
@@sledzeppelin why would evidence destroy faith?
@@ironymatt Isn't believing just to believe it kind of the point? God doesn't seek to prove his existence, you just have to believe it, is what I've always been told when I ask Christians about it.
If you have evidence, then you're no longer believing on faith.
@@sledzeppelin it's "both/and", rather than "either or".
At any rate, if you ask 100 different people what they mean by something, you'll get 100 differing opinions (not necessarily by a lot, but as a means of arriving at truth it has it's limits - especially if conducted via TH-cam). If you truly want to understand as fully as possible, look at how the Catechism of the Catholic Church characterizes faith - it isn't the blind mindless act that you're describing.
There is a small church not far from NYC on Rt. 3 in New Jersey. It's called the "Holy Face Monastery". It's a beautiful little church sitting high on a hill where it can be seen for miles because there is a large cross on the steeple. Near the altar of the church, there is a side room with many artifacts and photographs of the Holy Shroud. Two very large photographs of the Shroud are displayed just behind the Altar I've stopped there many times to visit. I highly recommend anybody living near the NYC area to visit the Holy Face Monastery.
Thank you dear Brian for this, i was looking for a good video on the Shroud of Turin. Just wonderful. I’ll be sharing this video link in the description of my next Catechism Video.
+God bless you+
Thank you for this video, you answered so many questions for me on this issue
Thank you for this video 😍😍😍
Hi Brian thank you for doing this. Actually I wanted to listen about the Shroud because I am tired of the recent news. For a change I want to listen a talk over one very old subject.
Thanks gentlemen for a well done conversation.
Also- Amen.
And nice chalice.
Brilliant interview with a man of integrity. Deserved more respect than he always got by Brian’s normal high standards.
The Worlds first Selfie 8). Made for us by God as a witness at the end of time! Viva Christo Rey!!
worlds first photocopy tho /:)
Amen !
World's first 3D scan! :-)
that's a fantastic way of putting it
A selfie? You mean those photos that people take of themselves with fake smiles to prove to others what a great time they are having? Is THAT what you mean??
3 Aves for you 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 that this channel may be for the Lord's work, and for Barry 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 Our Blessed Mother, Daughter of King David, pray for Barry to draw ever nearer to God that he might fulfill the purpose for which God created him 🙏🏻
Just was an amazing interview...so honest, so insightful...just amazing.
God's Grace has Blessed this.
Truly outstanding interview.
There are some really good documentaries on this, that the best explinations that we have is that shroud is a a photograph of the moment of the resurrection, that the image was burned into the shroud at the moment of great release of energy. So...God even made a photo of his resurrection. So sad to see that the guy who is part of the publication on this still can't believe in Jesus as his Lord and Saviour. I'd say, this man should be strongly prayed for by all of us who do believe in Jesus. Lord, here is a real real Nicodemus, give him faith in you, that he may believe.
How would you explain his lack of belief? What rationale must he follow in order to justify his conclusions?
God's covenant with the Jews is eternal, whether he adopts a prescribed (by you) form of religion, or not.
This man is fantastic! Filled with joy! An awesome Jewish guy!
Filled now with the Holy Spirit.
Thank you for having him on! Love this.
Brian you have a great smile and you are also so serious!
😄 smile more…ok?
I can see you thinking while listening! 🤔
I am almost the age of your guest. A gramma. So I can say you are cute! Haha
I love watching you both on this.
I guarantee that Jesus loves you both.
You are both unique.
God made you both for such a time as this!
I loved this!
He and you should watch THE CHOSEN!
He is probably more deeply into his faith than many Catholics-Christian!!!
Love this!
Thank you!
Great video! Very informative! Thank you! You should have more videos like this. God Bless both of you! 🙏
powerful, thank you all
Over an hour of discussion and there's still so much more to say!
I had literally *just* been thinking of this earlier today.
So interesting! And, am I the only one that noticed Brian’s change in body language and attitude during the course of the interview? For the first part, where the details of the science was being presented he seemed distant, distracted, perhaps even uninterested. Then, when they started talking about how Barrie felt about the spiritual aspects of his involvement with the shroud, and how it changed his life, Brian comes alive, starts smiling, starts leaning forward, starts looking and sounding engaged with the topic.
Excellent interview and Schwartz is an excellent and very sane man. Thank you Brian.
lmfao at brian getting this guy to validate his long hair 🤣🤣🤣
The guest had long hair also! He had a ponytail!
Watch The Chosen too. The seem to try to be accurate about the culture then, hair etc! 😄😃👏
@Chase Moore That is a very good point
Hes just trying to draw our attention to his hair which he's obviously modelled to look like Jesus!!! A childish and pathetic attempt to liken himself to jesus... of jesus had l9ng hair he certainly wasn't white! Its pathetic how anglo Saxon people think of jesus as one of their race... he was everything mist of them play superior over... he was a middle Eastern man... not white with red hair...
@Chase Moore and your animosity isn't exactly "in the spirit of what Jesus was teaching " you hypocrite... trying to remove a splinter in my eye whilst you got a tree in yours?
@Chase Moore go and chastise your wife... if you got one you heathen
it is always a joy to hear barrie. The new thing I take away from this viewing is that the experiment with blood and bilirubin could not be repeated by another scientist. I am intrigued.
The shroud has become the most interesting thing for me to look through. The most interesting topic
Well conducted interview.
Fascinating!
of course this is a miracle!! it's the only cloth on the entire planet of its kind!! Jesus Christ arose from the dead for our sins to save us!!! This was an amazing and extraordinary interview of Barry Schwartz, he was so knowledgeable and a firm believer of the shroud, which in the beginning he was a skeptic, and in the end believed that God wanted him to do this research and job. Fascinating!! Listening to this was such a moving experience.
Really good interview, Brian
I saw tge Shroud in 1978 in Turin, and was staying in a Carmelite monastery, where there were two of tge sindonologists staying too. We ate together so I heard first hand of their findings then. There was also a hand produced large volume produce bt them in three copies...one for the Pope and another for the Carmelite Cardinal of Turin. I had the privilege of seeing this for a whole day. There were many photo prints in this taken with special cameras, which were extremely interesting, especially the ones of the head and face.
I performed a basic forensic evaluation of the shroud of Turin and the results left me crying. I'm not sure if it's belonging to The Lord, but the injuries I personally examines from that article were very brutal.
When did you do this forensic evaluation? Did you publish your findings? If so, in what forum - be specific with dates, volumes, etc. The Vatican only lets a very select few examine the shroud so from where did you gain permission?
Barry Schwortz is a Jew who did not want to be on the 1978 Shroud team but became a believer after he served on the team. That’s enough for me!!!
Love him!!! Fantastic!
I so respect Mr. Schworz and i am so grateful that’s he was on this important team. It shows how God can use everybody, even a sceptic jewish man. I am glad he got closer😊
I truly enjoyed this interview. While my believe in Jesus isn’t dependent on the authenticity of the shroud, I’m awed by what God gave us. Viva Christo Rey!
Thank you for this. "I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world"
Indeed. People are waiting for the return, when He never left! And the Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
Dear Brian,
Very enlightening interview; on a few occasions I have interacted with Barry.
I read a while back in a scientific journal that there can be a large margin of error in Carbon-14 dating.
The way scientist explain; the calculations are done linearly and therefore unable to take into account that the Carbon-14 in the atmosphere is NOT/ was NOT at a "constant level" over the span of thousands of years!
I feel that if they ever need someone to portray Jesus in a movie or documentary, you would be the easy choice!
You beard, hair style and wholesome good looks is a natural!!
Stay Safe and STAY BLESSED
Robert from daytradingwiththelight
Absolutely fabulous
My faith tells me it's real
It doesn't take faith to see that "a picture is worth a thousand words." (But it takes willful ignorance NOT to see it.) The Shroud is the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.
Always assumed it was a hoax but the more I've read the more it holds up. Haven't watched this yet but the botanical analysis of the pollen in it and the face cloth (Sudarium Christi) along with the physicists' attempt to explain the photographic negative image on a non-photosensitive material is remarkably convincing.
Colm, do you happen to have any articles about the Shroud that you'd recommend?
@@sebastianofmilan I do somewhere. I'll try find them now.
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I never assumed it was a hoax, because if it was, then it would've been a bigger mystery.
@@Peter-kl8jg I held that assumption as an atheist before I encountered God so it was formed without really examining the evidence so I can see what you mean now I have seen the evidence. Or do you have a different angle?
Excellent interview.
Great interview!