There is eternal life in Jesus Christ. 💯THIS life is just a blip on the radar screen. I wonder how many were born again believers in Yeshua Ha'Mashiach on board. ❤
I was supposed to be on this plane.. to visit my dying father in Bali.. but my dad passed away a week before my flight date and my mom asked me to delay my flight one month for his cremation ceremony.. I'm very lucky but I lost 4 friends at that flight.. a Malaysian Filipino family of four that I had just danced with 2 weeks before this tragedy occurred..
How do you feel right now,maybe mixed feelings?,you cant even rejoice for having been lucky when you still lost your friends I reckon!Sorry human being!
We all do it but we are powerless over the situation… I get her feeling guilt but what else could she say? Hopefully counseling helps her see she shouldn’t feel guilt
That's not the only mother's lie. The problem is Devil runs the world. He is lier and murderer. This is the reason why liers and murderers feel good while righteous persons are persecuted. This is the reason why Hitler got the power, but Christ was executed as "blasphemer" and "rioter" by denunciation of clergy. That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our loved ones again! :-)
and also the parents of children who go missing. How do you continue on in life? Going to the store, or sitting in traffic..? I would just lose my shi......
That little boy had premonitions of it crashing, RIP. Can't imagine the pain the mother feels, to have him hug you and say that, then for it to happen.
Even a broken clock is right 2 times per day. Yes, I feel my neck hairs rise when something is fishy (signing a bad deal, or in presence of a robber). But predicting a plane coming down is BS
Poor mama. To tell your baby that it’s going to be okay. I understand one role we play as parents is to be a protector, a rock of wisdom. Praying she can find the strength to understand it’s not her fault.
mothers in Ukraine lose their children everyday, I just lost my best friend with her 4 year old daughter, Putin killed them despite them being just civillians who have nothing to do with this war and you people in the west could care less....nobody cares!!! Why are these children more important than Ukraines children?? Just because they are born in West ? I feel like if things like this happen then maybe finally west starts to realize that Russia is a threat to everybody in Europe...not just ukrainians
Imagine she answered her son "I can't promise that. You never know what can happen." The kid would have been a crying mess from the get go. So I believe that she gave her son total peace of mind in his final moments, and he no doubt truly believed he would be fine until the moment of impact. So it was really a blessing that she told him that. Good for you mama.
@@AnnetteGenovesi-c7h I know what you mean. It’s why I used the word “play”. When you grow up you realize your parents don’t have the answers they’re simply doing their best to keep your childhood innocent and worry free. To have that forcibly broken, exposed and for it to have life and death consequences is terrible. It goes against everything natural in parenthood.
Absolutely awful. I was shocked, the world was shocked. Caught up in a war that had nothing to do with the people onboard. I hope the people responsible are thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.
Sadly not., Only 3 russians and one ukranian were judged. The airlines, management and even the routeplaner were waived. None even interviewed or investigated. Truly a dirty job. These people will not be revenged due to an agenda.
War involves us all. We are all brothers on the same earth. Foolish to think it won’t eventually effect you. This is why those who wage war must be stopped forever.
You need to see the RT documentary about it (although it has been banned from western media platforms). Hear both sides before you start talking about justice.
@user-sp3wd2nn3e Russian side? You mean the side that denied any involvement while simultaneously hiding evidence and kept investigators from the crash site? Yeah, I'm sure they're open and honest in that "documentary". Give me a break, bot
@@abcdjkx He had no mention of Russia doing this, so why did you automatically assume that? Oh, maybe it's because it's downright obvious they did it didn't they, and you're just trying to reflect on that. That documentary is basically saying "We have investigated ourselves, and found no wrongdoings", like come on be a little less obvious next time.
That feeling of knowing your life just ended in a split second but you still have 2 minutes till your actually dead, so crazy sad an scary to imagine as a lil kid. 🥺
This is NOT the first time Russia shot down a passenger jet. In 1983 a Russian SU-15 fighter jet fired a missile at Korean Airlines Flight 007. All 269 people were killed. I also remember back in 1988 when a U.S. naval ship USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian passenger jet. All 290 people on board Iran Air Flight 655 were killed by a missile launched from that ship.
The Americans are also to blame for the two South Korean Boeing 707 and 747 which they sent into the closed airspace of the USSR, аnd the blame for this lies with the US on Republic of Korea, Korean Airlines and the crews of flights KE 902 and KE 007. USSR did everything legally not he broke the rules.
@@小泉信じろ because it is. If someone is scared of flying (a large portion of the population) they are likely going to act like this before every single flight. The odds that someone like that is on a plane that crashes is actually really high. “Intuition” does not apply to random chance scenarios. That term is called “confirmation bias”.
The absolute worst part about this is the 80 children that were killed. It sickens me that the people shot this jet down later posed for photos with and amongst the wreckage
I flew over Ukraine on a Malaysian Airlines flight from London to Kuala lumpur the week before this and couldn’t understand why we were flying over a warzone.
Money of course, anything that jeopardise profit, will be counted as liability that got ruled out from the attitude "meh it's not gonna happened", well looks like those higher ups never learn from history of what happened when this attitude comes
That is exactly what I thought. Why are you flying a commercial airliner over a warzone, specifically rebel controlled territory where they are going to be way more trigger happy?
Don't be naive, Singapore and France Airline also using the same route. Did you know Malaysia, Singapore and France airlines were flying at the same route at that time, they just used different altitudes
its a routine and planned flight route. Not just Malaysia Airlines but other airline as well uses similar flight path and to change a flight path, they would need permission from ATC (Air Traffic Control). Also, not everything can be changed, usually only slight deviation is allowed, this is because air space is busy, not just one flight, in some region there are hundreds of other flights in near vicinity, therefore if they were to change flight path for one flight, they probably have to change other flight path for other jets as well. If the ATC doesn't allow the pilots to change their path, they have to stick to it. Even if they wanted to climb only 1000ft more, they have to ask permission from ATC cause there may be other flight above them that they are not aware of or might cross paths with.
As a child I remember hearing someone say, "Only God gives." As a parent and a fellow human, I'm devastated for these fellow humans. Hopeful that God will give us all peace while we search the salvage of this world for a solution. 💔
and why should they the one reasonable died in the crash aka the pilot there was clearly a no fly zone over the area. you can look at the records the pilot 100% knew
It takes highly specialised systems to take out a jet at cruising altitude. The sorts of systems which would never fall into the hands of rebels (and even if they did the complexity of operating one would be beyond someone without specialised training). This is why flights go over places like Syria. However these "rebels" where backed by Russia who gave them such systems and the men to operate them.
That’s sad somebody put on an oxygen mask. Like they were conscious and felt all the chaos. They thought they might of survived? I cant imagine the fear and hopelessness. Trying to imagine it is scary.
flew on the exact aircraft (9M-MRD) as MH16 on 20th march 2014 to amsterdam. some of the crews that perished were on my flight. truly was a devastating day after hearing the news about the downing of MH17. couldnt imagine how the family members felt 😞 may their souls rest in peace.
First of all, I would like to send my condolences to all the families who have lost loved ones on this flight and second of all. I’d like to know how the Russians would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
3:25: She feels guilty because she promised her nervous son before the flight that everything would go well. What else could she have done? Answer her son: “Oh, I can't promise that. Of course, the plane could crash and you could die.”. You would NEVER say that to your children, you would always reassure them before the flight. So I don't know why she feels bad about it.
Intelligent parents WOULD say that… because it’s the truth. Parents should raise their children on truth… and truth of the world. Not this disney fantasy most want to lie to themselves and others with.
Yeah, in fact I think Malaysian Airlines are the actual culprits of this plane crash even occurring in the first place. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that flying over a war zone is simply an invitation for a tragedy waiting to happen.
@@sihanchen7552 Not only over a warzone, over rebel controlled territory where they are naturally going to be more trigger happy in shooting down a larger aircraft that they no is not their own.
I completely forgot about this. I honestly thought this was about that plane that disappeared recently. I was like, “what they found a piece” but nope it’s a whole other flight…crazy.
@@ferraricarpaccio1811Interesting. What did Ukraine do to start the war? Because Zelensky's first thing he did was Withdraw Ukranian troops from the east during the war in Donbass.
@@ltcarlsen2152Yeah, the nerve of Ukraine to have huge oil and gas deposits in its eastern region and how dare Ukraine not willingly give up it's territory and resources to Russia so Russia can maintain its monopoly on European energy. That's just low isn't it?
Read one book about history. Even if these books are written with a partiality. Just read how the Sowjet dissolved, what led to it. THAT was not a humane thing. Everyone knows what happened to him. The extension of nato area was also against the pact. I don´t say russia should fight a war over it but the west provoked it since the 90´s. Greedy politicians will always tell you a story that makes you believe in them. Don´t be fooled by those monsters.
My wife and I flew on an Airbus A380 Malaysian airlines over the same area one month earlier. I read a startling report by the civil aviation authority, that all commercial aircraft should avoid flying over Ukraine and Russian several months earlier. So why did Malaysian airlines choose to fly over a war zone? It was easier to blame Russia or Ukraine for this mishap, these countries would shoot anything down when it violated or threatened their air space, it's a war.
Folks are confused. One minute you'll say "America should help" the next you'll say "why are Americans helping foreign countries we have our own problems here to fix".
8:01 is not an exhaust pipe as the investigator mentions, but the clean air intake for the engine. It's standard from factory. So not a unique detail differentiating it.
I am a Russian American and I was in Russia when it happened visiting my family. It was a horrible day and it was all over the news all day long. From what I gather, Russian separatists, who were also Ukrainian citizens were given Russian military equipment from the Russian army. The incident happened not in Russia, and I want to stress this: it happened over Ukrainian soil. It was Russian made equipment, however. But it didn’t happen in Russia.
@gavindawson3108 Russia and USA aren't friends and like butting into each other trying to spy on each other. Russia at that time discovered a US spy plane in their space but it was able to get away without incident. Russia probably got mad and vowed to shoot down any plane that didn't belong in their airspace. For whatever reason MH17 flew into their airspace and rather than turn and correct their mistake they kept flying. Russia obv discovered them and either due to confusion(mistaking it for another spy plane) or malice they shot it down and even celebrated after.
We woke up to the news here in Australia. I still remember it like it was yesterday when my clock radio came on that morning. When it came on, they were in the middle of a report on this Malaysia Airlines disaster, which I initially assumed was 370 as they had been covering that regularly in the weeks leading up to that day. I then heard something about it being shot down in Ukraine and I could not believe what I had just heard!
I couldn’t imagine telling my two kids that I promise them they will be okay & they die. I would die of guilt, Momma if you’re reading this… it’s okay. Please do not live in guilt. We as mothers want to comfort our children, it’s not your fault.
Absolutely reckless for airlines to be flying over war zones , at any altitude where anti aircrafts weapons were known to be in use in order to keep a straight line and save fuel, this has never been brought up within the international community,nor by the Dutch authorities or the families of the victims, in fact aviation regulations needed to be reviewed after this tragedy and the whole of Ukraine airspace today is a big no fly zone for commercial airliners. as for Russia? Don't get me started...
It has been brought up many, many times. Seriously. It has been discussed to death. There is no excuse for this tragedy. And no excuse for the coverup at the very least! What are you even saying my guy. Are you victim blaming??
Here's the thing, Mh17 was flying higher than any missile systems the separatist forces were known to use could reach. Nobody knew the Russian government had "supplied" medium range, surface to air missile systems which had a range of upwards of 40km and a max altitude of 70,000ft
How could regulators not take such a weapons system into consideration of risk assessment when determining flight paths, why not treat all war zones like we do volcanos. They can't be so naive as to disregard the caliber of possiblities with either dirrect international weapons suppliers and/or the black market. Not downplaying the tragedy, just my additional perspective. @@AB-mw8oz
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Is it just me or does Malaysia airlines seem to always be in the headlines these days for the worlds worst or strangest tragedies? They only have a fleet of 72, with only 77 destinations. So the odds of something happening seem pretty damn great
If they were flying over a war zone, how could anyone other than the IAA who would be responsible for allowing an International flight to still take this course. Surely the flight couse would be deviated around the war zone.
There was a no fly zone above the conflict, which the plane was outside of. It's the russians who are responsible, nobody else. Stop spreading nonsense.
My heart goes out to those affected by such a senseless act of violence. And may God give you peace....and render justice swiftly to those involved 😢❤😢❤
Because international laws grants immunity to civilian airlines even if that plane is heading towards a region with conflict. Just because there’s a conflict doesn’t necessarily means planes will stop flying there. Even with the current war in Ukraine or in Israel you can probably still fly there right now despite the current conflicts. Because flying by plane is the only way to go to certain places like in their case Malaysia to Netherlands. From the military perspective, there are proper procedures established by international law that tells military to identify civilian aircraft tldr the military cannot just shoot down any random plane in sky even in a war. All this means is that Russian trains their military very poorly nor do they care or acknowledge international law.
@@smileyr you have to be a real fool to think that international laws means something to anyone ....even US have specific laws that grand them power over international ....and as you say to think that some russian war group will obey it ...its ridicules ...the company's must be more aware of that ...i blame the company that make that plane go to conflict zone...Go tomorrow and try to fly over Ukrane today or over Gaza...nobody will make a flight over them (over the conflict zones)
An American airline hasn’t crashed in 15 years. Not one single one. Meanwhile in that time span about 615,000 people died in car crashes. Maybe you should check your logic
Can’t believe this is already 10 years ago, the day the bodies came back to The Netherlands the whole country stood still.
There is eternal life in Jesus Christ. 💯THIS life is just a blip on the radar screen. I wonder how many were born again believers in Yeshua Ha'Mashiach on board. ❤
@@firstinlastoutwtf?
@@firstinlastoutjesus is a fake
Bodies? There’s no way those bodies were still in tact
@@TheHeat205Networkoh kid
I was supposed to be on this plane.. to visit my dying father in Bali.. but my dad passed away a week before my flight date and my mom asked me to delay my flight one month for his cremation ceremony.. I'm very lucky but I lost 4 friends at that flight.. a Malaysian Filipino family of four that I had just danced with 2 weeks before this tragedy occurred..
I am so sorry to hear of your loss😭😢
from Olex 10 yrs old . Half Italian half Ukrainian
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I’m so sorry this happened to your friends. Wishing you well ❤
How do you feel right now,maybe mixed feelings?,you cant even rejoice for having been lucky when you still lost your friends I reckon!Sorry human being!
@@stephenmapeka7774 wth
Heartbreaking for the mother that she promised her sons everything will be fine.
We all do it but we are powerless over the situation… I get her feeling guilt but what else could she say? Hopefully counseling helps her see she shouldn’t feel guilt
@@Mikerotch1287yes. Of course you comfort your child and try to put them at ease. I couldn’t imagine being in that situation.
That's not the only mother's lie.
The problem is Devil runs the world. He is lier and murderer. This is the reason why liers and murderers feel good while righteous persons are persecuted. This is the reason why Hitler got the power, but Christ was executed as "blasphemer" and "rioter" by denunciation of clergy.
That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our loved ones again! :-)
and also the parents of children who go missing. How do you continue on in life? Going to the store, or sitting in traffic..? I would just lose my shi......
Imagine all the guilt she must be feeling after all these years.
This is just humanity at its lowest. This story is heartbreaking and so frightening
Not even remotely close to its lowest. This is a small drop in a very large bucket of atrocities committed by man throughout history.
Still people need Trump an d Putin in power.
hehe this has been how humans have been doing things since forever.
@@lucasrem You do realize that under Trump there were no wars?
That little boy had premonitions of it crashing, RIP. Can't imagine the pain the mother feels, to have him hug you and say that, then for it to happen.
3:00 you shouldn’t take it like it’s nothing. It’s a premonition. How sad
People have premonitions that the plane they're on will crash all the time, and the plane is just fine. It doesn't mean anything in itself.
Even a broken clock is right 2 times per day. Yes, I feel my neck hairs rise when something is fishy (signing a bad deal, or in presence of a robber). But predicting a plane coming down is BS
@@rhr-p7w not really. I just think people ALWAYS think that, so on occasion, you'll be right.
that's called anxiety. please don't say the son knew it would crash. that just puts heavy guilt to the mother. she already suffered so much. ❤
Poor mama. To tell your baby that it’s going to be okay. I understand one role we play as parents is to be a protector, a rock of wisdom. Praying she can find the strength to understand it’s not her fault.
mothers in Ukraine lose their children everyday, I just lost my best friend with her 4 year old daughter, Putin killed them despite them being just civillians who have nothing to do with this war and you people in the west could care less....nobody cares!!! Why are these children more important than Ukraines children?? Just because they are born in West ? I feel like if things like this happen then maybe finally west starts to realize that Russia is a threat to everybody in Europe...not just ukrainians
Imagine she answered her son "I can't promise that. You never know what can happen." The kid would have been a crying mess from the get go. So I believe that she gave her son total peace of mind in his final moments, and he no doubt truly believed he would be fine until the moment of impact. So it was really a blessing that she told him that. Good for you mama.
@@AnnetteGenovesi-c7h I know what you mean. It’s why I used the word “play”. When you grow up you realize your parents don’t have the answers they’re simply doing their best to keep your childhood innocent and worry free. To have that forcibly broken, exposed and for it to have life and death consequences is terrible. It goes against everything natural in parenthood.
@@YoWhoDat Amen
2:31 as a parent, I’m not sure I could go on living if I were in that situation.
Oh yes you could drama queen
@@LemonHead-sq5wsmany parents do take themselves out of existence over losing their children. you could have kept this to yourself.
@@litneyloxan he’s a troll and doesn’t have kids.
I couldn't, I know myself so well.
She has another child to live for, but I completely understand what you mean. How tragic of a situation, all around.
seeing the victim photos is one of the hardest thing I've ever bumped in. RIP to them.
oof tell me your from the west without telling me your from the west lol weak mind
I don't even have kids but i feel that mother's pain...I hope she finds a way to cope with all the loss.
You never really cope, you just get used to the absence of who you lose.
Absolutely awful. I was shocked, the world was shocked. Caught up in a war that had nothing to do with the people onboard. I hope the people responsible are thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.
Hope. A peculiar word.
Sadly not., Only 3 russians and one ukranian were judged. The airlines, management and even the routeplaner were waived. None even interviewed or investigated. Truly a dirty job. These people will not be revenged due to an agenda.
All Russian establishment is Shocking... they're all War Criminals !!!
War involves us all. We are all brothers on the same earth. Foolish to think it won’t eventually effect you. This is why those who wage war must be stopped forever.
Nope they just went and started a new war
Horrifying. Tortured before death being in terror
That poor mother, I feel such deep sadness for her and all the other families. Terrible
When she said the kid was scared if the plane went down.. But he found it.. sad
This is one of the saddest stories I have ever come across. I remember when it happened. That there will be no justice is equally heartbreaking.
You need to see the RT documentary about it (although it has been banned from western media platforms). Hear both sides before you start talking about justice.
@user-sp3wd2nn3e Russian side? You mean the side that denied any involvement while simultaneously hiding evidence and kept investigators from the crash site? Yeah, I'm sure they're open and honest in that "documentary". Give me a break, bot
@@abcdjkx He had no mention of Russia doing this, so why did you automatically assume that? Oh, maybe it's because it's downright obvious they did it didn't they, and you're just trying to reflect on that. That documentary is basically saying "We have investigated ourselves, and found no wrongdoings", like come on be a little less obvious next time.
@abcdjkx not a single word mentioned about Russia, But you.
I think that shows enough.
That feeling of knowing your life just ended in a split second but you still have 2 minutes till your actually dead, so crazy sad an scary to imagine as a lil kid. 🥺
I was thinking the same.
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@@42crazyguy Awwwwmygawwd the spelling police 🙄
@@42crazyguy your*
This is NOT the first time Russia shot down a passenger jet. In 1983 a Russian SU-15 fighter jet fired a missile at Korean Airlines Flight 007. All 269 people were killed. I also remember back in 1988 when a U.S. naval ship USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian passenger jet. All 290 people on board Iran Air Flight 655 were killed by a missile launched from that ship.
The Americans are also to blame for the two South Korean Boeing 707 and 747 which they sent into the closed airspace of the USSR, аnd the blame for this lies with the US on Republic of Korea, Korean Airlines and the crews of flights KE 902 and KE 007. USSR did everything legally not he broke the rules.
That little boy knew and felt something 😢
Right. I feel like we need to teach people to lean into their feelings .. pay attention! Intuition is strong
@@Bellaa4578 yes indeed!
Yes we call it intuition.somebody believes it while others think it is just superstition
@@小泉信じろ because it is. If someone is scared of flying (a large portion of the population) they are likely going to act like this before every single flight. The odds that someone like that is on a plane that crashes is actually really high. “Intuition” does not apply to random chance scenarios. That term is called “confirmation bias”.
Why you send a commervial flight through a war sky... why no e talks about it.
This story is heartbreaking.
I hope that mother can find peace.
The absolute worst part about this is the 80 children that were killed. It sickens me that the people shot this jet down later posed for photos with and amongst the wreckage
I flew over Ukraine on a Malaysian Airlines flight from London to Kuala lumpur the week before this and couldn’t understand why we were flying over a warzone.
Money of course, anything that jeopardise profit, will be counted as liability that got ruled out from the attitude "meh it's not gonna happened", well looks like those higher ups never learn from history of what happened when this attitude comes
That is exactly what I thought. Why are you flying a commercial airliner over a warzone, specifically rebel controlled territory where they are going to be way more trigger happy?
Don't be naive, Singapore and France Airline also using the same route. Did you know Malaysia, Singapore and France airlines were flying at the same route at that time, they just used different altitudes
its a routine and planned flight route. Not just Malaysia Airlines but other airline as well uses similar flight path and to change a flight path, they would need permission from ATC (Air Traffic Control). Also, not everything can be changed, usually only slight deviation is allowed, this is because air space is busy, not just one flight, in some region there are hundreds of other flights in near vicinity, therefore if they were to change flight path for one flight, they probably have to change other flight path for other jets as well. If the ATC doesn't allow the pilots to change their path, they have to stick to it. Even if they wanted to climb only 1000ft more, they have to ask permission from ATC cause there may be other flight above them that they are not aware of or might cross paths with.
@@muhdzulhilmi7 Pretty sure ATC are not turning down requests to not fly over a known war zone 😂🙄
I remember when this happened. 60 minutes used to do excellent work and it still does often. These families deserve justice, as do the victims
As a child I remember hearing someone say, "Only God gives." As a parent and a fellow human, I'm devastated for these fellow humans. Hopeful that God will give us all peace while we search the salvage of this world for a solution. 💔
No God
And no one or government will ever be held accountable 😢
Another unfortunate case of tragic Victims
and why should they the one reasonable died in the crash aka the pilot there was clearly a no fly zone over the area. you can look at the records the pilot 100% knew
This happened in 2014? Oh my god I feel like this just happened a couple years ago...tragic 😢
I strongly discourage those of you who are thinking of checking the aftermath pics. It gave me nightmares for a week
Some people are strong. Some are not 🤷♂
You don’t see anything
@@emg400 yeah, but his comment is a warning for Some light hearted humans. 😊
@@rc70ys oh they are out there and they are very hard to stomach
I'm not sure why anyone would want to see something so heartbreaking and gut wrenching.
Seems incredible to me that commercial flights are routed through airspace in a warzone.
It takes highly specialised systems to take out a jet at cruising altitude. The sorts of systems which would never fall into the hands of rebels (and even if they did the complexity of operating one would be beyond someone without specialised training). This is why flights go over places like Syria. However these "rebels" where backed by Russia who gave them such systems and the men to operate them.
That’s sad somebody put on an oxygen mask. Like they were conscious and felt all the chaos. They thought they might of survived?
I cant imagine the fear and hopelessness. Trying to imagine it is scary.
might *HAVE
flew on the exact aircraft (9M-MRD) as MH16 on 20th march 2014 to amsterdam. some of the crews that perished were on my flight. truly was a devastating day after hearing the news about the downing of MH17. couldnt imagine how the family members felt 😞 may their souls rest in peace.
Thanks for your great reporting.
First of all, I would like to send my condolences to all the families who have lost loved ones on this flight and second of all. I’d like to know how the Russians would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
They don't care. That is the attitude of most there.
@@etacarinae2643 They were shot down by Russian backed forces…
@juniesco When your leader is a careless dictator and you grow up around senseless death and violence, can't imagine WHY they'd be complacent m.
What do you want them to do exactly?
@@JojoJoget Collectively grow a pair. He’s one little man.
I can't imagine being in that mother's shoes.
3:25: She feels guilty because she promised her nervous son before the flight that everything would go well. What else could she have done? Answer her son: “Oh, I can't promise that. Of course, the plane could crash and you could die.”. You would NEVER say that to your children, you would always reassure them before the flight. So I don't know why she feels bad about it.
Cause she couldn't be there with them in there last moments. Maybe if she was with them she could have said her sorry and goodbyes on the way down.
Intelligent parents WOULD say that… because it’s the truth. Parents should raise their children on truth… and truth of the world. Not this disney fantasy most want to lie to themselves and others with.
Because tragic really happens and she felt she has deceived her kid although it is of no fault of hers.
Fathers would say something like “it’s safer than driving a car”
@@Torrque You obviously are not a parent. Either that or you are a terrible one.
So, so terrible. My heart breaks for the the family of the victims.
This was such a horrifying situation.
Horrific. Inexcusable, Rus incompetence and or evil, its still inexcusable.
@@etacarinae2643you keep believing that. Everyone knows what you did
@@etacarinae2643 there are dozens of images of the missile launcher coming from Russia. Watch the video. Or don't, believe what you want I guess.
@@matteframe would love for you to link these videos....
@@matteframe😅😅 yea. Did the find the Weapons of Mass Desfruction in Iraq? 😅😅 lie ..
@@matteframe All non proof.
I am heartbroken for the affected families in this tragedy.No one would accept the reality that their loved ones passed away by such way.
when your strong you won't listen to how messed up and wrong you TRULY are
Politics and military, a human curse.
Add 'people' to the mix. You can't get military and politics without people.
I feel so bad for that mom... I hope she realizes that it wasn't her fault and that she has no reason to feel guilty...
So painful the mom talks 😞😭
I shed tears and felt immense soul pain, for this Mother and her feelings about assuring her child. May God give her solis and strength. God Bless
How did the mother survive the shooting and the crash
Does the airline not bear any responsibility for flying a commercial plane full of civilians over a conflict zone?
Yeah, in fact I think Malaysian Airlines are the actual culprits of this plane crash even occurring in the first place.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that flying over a war zone is simply an invitation for a tragedy waiting to happen.
@@sihanchen7552 Not only over a warzone, over rebel controlled territory where they are naturally going to be more trigger happy in shooting down a larger aircraft that they no is not their own.
I knew I'd get emotional watching this.. but it is so important.
Give justice for all the victims and prayers for their souls❤
I feel as you always have to say everything will be ok even if it's not it's all about that reassurance that gives one comfort
What an genius, whoever planed aircraft route over war zone.....
I completely forgot about this. I honestly thought this was about that plane that disappeared recently. I was like, “what they found a piece” but nope it’s a whole other flight…crazy.
This should be reopened.
The mom just breaks my heart. You didn’t lie to him. He is okay now in the arms of god with his big brother. I’m so sorry 😢
A crime as well as many resent war crimes by a certain country .
Such profound sadness.
Ruzzian didn't leave any comment after watching this and just leave silently lol
Because they had nothing to do, why don’t you blame the puppet Ukraine president for starting the war
@@ferraricarpaccio1811Interesting. What did Ukraine do to start the war? Because Zelensky's first thing he did was Withdraw Ukranian troops from the east during the war in Donbass.
@@ltcarlsen2152Yeah, the nerve of Ukraine to have huge oil and gas deposits in its eastern region and how dare Ukraine not willingly give up it's territory and resources to Russia so Russia can maintain its monopoly on European energy. That's just low isn't it?
@@JamesStreet-tp1vb HOW DARE UKRAINE DEFEND IT'S SOVEREIGNTY! Grrr 🤬
Read one book about history. Even if these books are written with a partiality. Just read how the Sowjet dissolved, what led to it. THAT was not a humane thing. Everyone knows what happened to him. The extension of nato area was also against the pact. I don´t say russia should fight a war over it but the west provoked it since the 90´s. Greedy politicians will always tell you a story that makes you believe in them. Don´t be fooled by those monsters.
Where is the stabilizer?
My wife and I flew on an Airbus A380 Malaysian airlines over the same area one month earlier. I read a startling report by the civil aviation authority, that all commercial aircraft should avoid flying over Ukraine and Russian several months earlier. So why did Malaysian airlines choose to fly over a war zone? It was easier to blame Russia or Ukraine for this mishap, these countries would shoot anything down when it violated or threatened their air space, it's a war.
I guess Malaysian Airlines didn't care, which really isn't too surprising.
This is heartbreaking. Why can't we all just get along?
These are the kinds of things American politicians should be working on instead of anti abortion laws. People need to be held responsible.
Why the Americans?
@@mactep1 Because a few other countries probably are doing their part already.
@@mactep1 USA funds Ukrainian war
We kind of are. Russia thought they would steam roll Ukraine. 2 and half years later, over 60,000 Russian causalties.
Folks are confused. One minute you'll say "America should help" the next you'll say "why are Americans helping foreign countries we have our own problems here to fix".
8:01 is not an exhaust pipe as the investigator mentions, but the clean air intake for the engine. It's standard from factory. So not a unique detail differentiating it.
These poor families 😭😭. Im so sorry. The first responders and the recovery team has got to be still feeling this. 😢😢. EVIL 🙈. I hate war
Why was this not on the news?
I am a Russian American and I was in Russia when it happened visiting my family. It was a horrible day and it was all over the news all day long. From what I gather, Russian separatists, who were also Ukrainian citizens were given Russian military equipment from the Russian army. The incident happened not in Russia, and I want to stress this: it happened over Ukrainian soil. It was Russian made equipment, however. But it didn’t happen in Russia.
I couldn't agree more with the title.
That young boy had a bad feeling never go against that gut feeling!
Terrible tragedy, I am very sorry for your looses, may rest in peace.
Should have never have flown over Ukraine (a war zone) in the first place
God bless the parents that sent their kids on that flight. I could not survive the grief
Why would an airline fly over a war zone where anti aircraft weapons are prevalent?
There were no anti aircraft weapons. Putin lied that there is no russian military there. Insurgence cannot reach these heights.
That's a good question. So many things went so wrong for this to happen. Human error notwithstanding.
Wasn't a WarZone at the time.
@@gavindawson3108 Then how was it shot down? A BB gun?
@gavindawson3108 Russia and USA aren't friends and like butting into each other trying to spy on each other. Russia at that time discovered a US spy plane in their space but it was able to get away without incident. Russia probably got mad and vowed to shoot down any plane that didn't belong in their airspace. For whatever reason MH17 flew into their airspace and rather than turn and correct their mistake they kept flying. Russia obv discovered them and either due to confusion(mistaking it for another spy plane) or malice they shot it down and even celebrated after.
We woke up to the news here in Australia. I still remember it like it was yesterday when my clock radio came on that morning. When it came on, they were in the middle of a report on this Malaysia Airlines disaster, which I initially assumed was 370 as they had been covering that regularly in the weeks leading up to that day. I then heard something about it being shot down in Ukraine and I could not believe what I had just heard!
Devastating, deep sorrrow for the victims's families. ☹☹
*victims'
Yes, this should not have happened. This airliner was full of innocent people! They had to know that! Such evil in the world!
❤ 🙏 for my brothers and sisters in the Netherlands.
Terrible.😡😡😡
I couldn’t imagine telling my two kids that I promise them they will be okay & they die.
I would die of guilt,
Momma if you’re reading this… it’s okay. Please do not live in guilt. We as mothers want to comfort our children, it’s not your fault.
Absolutely reckless for airlines to be flying over war zones , at any altitude where anti aircrafts weapons were known to be in use in order to keep a straight line and save fuel, this has never been brought up within the international community,nor by the Dutch authorities or the families of the victims, in fact aviation regulations needed to be reviewed after this tragedy and the whole of Ukraine airspace today is a big no fly zone for commercial airliners.
as for Russia?
Don't get me started...
It has been brought up many, many times. Seriously. It has been discussed to death. There is no excuse for this tragedy. And no excuse for the coverup at the very least! What are you even saying my guy. Are you victim blaming??
Here's the thing, Mh17 was flying higher than any missile systems the separatist forces were known to use could reach. Nobody knew the Russian government had "supplied" medium range, surface to air missile systems which had a range of upwards of 40km and a max altitude of 70,000ft
How could regulators not take such a weapons system into consideration of risk assessment when determining flight paths, why not treat all war zones like we do volcanos. They can't be so naive as to disregard the caliber of possiblities with either dirrect international weapons suppliers and/or the black market. Not downplaying the tragedy, just my additional perspective.
@@AB-mw8oz
@@GNMi79 passengers became victims of Russian war criminals! Don't shift the blame as if their actions are normal
@@AB-mw8oz "nobody knew". Lol you tell your opponent you will punch them before you do? 🤣🤣
Putler a menace
You might want to wake up....
@@waylonsmith5419 v.much awake to evil it walks among us …ward against ignorance lest you be an unwitting ally to his work …
CIA and Ukraine tried to retrieve the blackbox of MH17 from Malaysian team in Kharkiv... However they failed... 😁
@@huehue-kk2zj what does that even mean?
@@jakoflynn2560 .. Nothing, just a new conspiricy theory.
60 Minutes, I have been watching and loving your show since I was little and we werent allowed to talk when your show was on. We sure niss Andy Rooney ! ❤ yall !!!
My question is..... why is a civilian aircraft flying in a war zone?!?! That just seems like a really bad idea!!!!
15 years ago, and this BS is STILL going on!
Cannot believe been 10 years 😢
Has it really been ten years already??
This is terribly sad but why tf would you fly through a warzone?
It wasn't a no fly zone, just a risky one, and to most airline management the savings are worth the risk.
@@mactep1 "just a risky one"....indeed, airline management is 100% responsible for this disaster.
Is it just me or does Malaysia airlines seem to always be in the headlines these days for the worlds worst or strangest tragedies? They only have a fleet of 72, with only 77 destinations. So the odds of something happening seem pretty damn great
They’re wasting their time on this case because they’ll never be justice for any of those people
So they found the plane, god rest the lost souls 🙏🏾💔🕊
Airlines surrounding Malaysia 🇲🇾 sure have some bad luck ☹️...
Why wouldn't flight paths be diverted around known active conflict zones? Is that even an option?
The lunatics that said “sure, let’s fly over a war zone” are responsible.
It's those lunatics that gave the order to launch the Buk that were responsible
Iran Air Flight 655 same scenario just they knew who was responsible, no one got convicted ,290 people die .
Was down by US warship
The United States immediately took responsibility and paid compensation
Remind us what happened to Ukrainian Airlines flight 752?
@@seanmitchell504 did one person in chain of command got convicted? Answer is no
And noone will be brought to justice for this
If they were flying over a war zone, how could anyone other than the IAA who would be responsible for allowing an International flight to still take this course. Surely the flight couse would be deviated around the war zone.
You don't know what you're talking about why you bother for your Rbot shame on you
There was a no fly zone above the conflict, which the plane was outside of. It's the russians who are responsible, nobody else. Stop spreading nonsense.
Is not warzone you kown that right??
@prathanam2487 It absolutely WAS and still is a war zone.
@@gadsdenjim8785 but in year 2015 donbass is not warzone
Is seem cheche Russian 2001
How many of us would listen to a child premonition and cancel a flight, we should take this signs very seriously
Ahhh, i hate it when a 60 minutes vid is NOT 60 minutes.
It is 60 minutes when it’s aired on TV with adverts 🤣
My heart goes out to those affected by such a senseless act of violence. And may God give you peace....and render justice swiftly to those involved
😢❤😢❤
Disgusting!
how you know that there is conflict in the region and you put your plane to go there ? this plane should never enter that territory ...
Because international laws grants immunity to civilian airlines even if that plane is heading towards a region with conflict. Just because there’s a conflict doesn’t necessarily means planes will stop flying there. Even with the current war in Ukraine or in Israel you can probably still fly there right now despite the current conflicts. Because flying by plane is the only way to go to certain places like in their case Malaysia to Netherlands. From the military perspective, there are proper procedures established by international law that tells military to identify civilian aircraft tldr the military cannot just shoot down any random plane in sky even in a war. All this means is that Russian trains their military very poorly nor do they care or acknowledge international law.
@@smileyr you have to be a real fool to think that international laws means something to anyone ....even US have specific laws that grand them power over international ....and as you say to think that some russian war group will obey it ...its ridicules ...the company's must be more aware of that ...i blame the company that make that plane go to conflict zone...Go tomorrow and try to fly over Ukrane today or over Gaza...nobody will make a flight over them (over the conflict zones)
This is why I'll NEVER fly.
Stupid reason.
An American airline hasn’t crashed in 15 years. Not one single one. Meanwhile in that time span about 615,000 people died in car crashes. Maybe you should check your logic
@@MrShanester117 Compare the amount of cars worldwide and the amount of airplanes, Check your logic
@@pchoy7854 Airplanes are the safest mode of transport, check YOU'RE logic and understanding.
Just don’t get on flights going over war zones
Part 2 ?
In a word Putin, dirty fingerprints all over the scene.
9/11 had 3,000 people. Where's the justice for that?
It's a sad story .. no question about it .. but this is also the result of WAR .. and so why were Civilian airplanes crossing that airspace???
❤ 🙏 I am so sorry for these families with this terrible loss and thing. How does someone do this to innocent people ???
Sad 🤦🏾♂😢