Thank you for sharing this video with us. I am an artist with a strange attraction to off earth topics so I enjoyed hearing everyone and wish you all even more success in your endeavors.
You need not pierce the ice crust to look for life. Life would have been deposited onto the surface from pressured vortices-from the interior to the exterior. Send surface probes to points on the surface where crustal upheavals that were caused by upwellings of water. Life will be in the debris field. Suggestion would be also one of the dirtier upwellings-would have come from a deeper part of Europa
If I had an opportunity to ask a question here it would be if humans can transplant life from Earth into the Ocean(s) of Europa and if the flora and fauna would successfully live there. Thanks.
I wish that signs of life will be found on Europa. Any multi-cellular life (probably some kind of European fish) would be very big indication of that the Universe is bursting with life and that we are certainly not alone
Imagine sitting in your little research sub with the hull squeaking a hundred kilometers beneath surface of an ocean hundreds and thousands of kilometers from home. Claustrophobia, here I come.
The approximate pressure at the bottom of a 100km-deep ocean on Europa is ~19,500 lbs/inch^2 which compares favourably to the bottom of the Marianas Trench on Earth at 1,6000 lbs. So, we definitely CAN build a submarine capable of exploring the depths of Europa's ocean. The main issues would be: 1) Getting it into the ocean. 2) Powering it - only big RTGs could work. 3) Command/control/communication back to orbit. Other than those things, it's dead easy!
'ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE', HAL's last broadcast to Earth at the end of '2010' movie. Are we going to get in BIG trouble?!
The Piper yes good point, but what else could we use that would produce enough heat? Solar may not be viable due to distance... it’s an engineering conundrum to be sure
The probe probably needs an RTG anyway for electricity so might as well use the waste heat to melt through the ice. Seems the most practical way to me.
The problem is that we won't have the technology to dive into the subsurface ocean in Europa in at least 100 years. Human can never survive on the surface of Europa due to insanely high radiation. I think probably we should be focus on other moons of Jupiter like Callisto, which is big, full of water ice, and has low radiation. Callisto is a better place to colonialize.
@@AllPlanets ... "necessary" is a weighty word. It really isn't. Put the details in the description, or at the end. That way many people will save much time ... and that adds up quickly, with thousands of views.
@@ZappyOh in the time when fake news is everywhere and people believe charlatans and gurus on TH-cam, it appears _necessary_ that you know in advance who is going to talk on the topic and if they have real credentials for this. I prefer to prioritize honesty to the number of views.
If I could only ask Americans to pronounce one word correctly, it is "Antarctica". Every letter is pronounced, and both Cs are hard. The word derives from the greek, which has a hard K twice. This is not a case of "you pronounce it your way". This is a case of people being taught incorrect pronunciation. It's not aluminum vs. aluminium. ἀνταρκτικός (antarktikós) is Antarctica in English. And no case can be made for dropping a letter in speech. You don't go to the "artic", you go to the "arctic". www.askdifference.com/arctic-vs-artic/ Thank you, kind Americans. Once you understand, you can confidently assure your friends of the correct way to say the word.
What gives us the right to go to other planets or moons and start building. We have no idea if their are established laws or rules in the sol system already. Our planet really needs some attention right now...🔭🛸
Save the jibber jabber and garbage, off topic talk for the end please. None of us are here to watch or listen to an administrator. Get off the camera and just let us watch the actual speaker. Not you.
From the hometown of the ESA Operations Center: Happy Birthday Frank! Everybody: Live long and Prosper!
Happy Birthday Frank Drake! 👽
Thank you for sharing this video with us. I am an artist with a strange attraction to off earth topics so I enjoyed hearing everyone and wish you all even more success in your endeavors.
Could you improve the audio, please? Also has SETI ever thought of broadcasting at 3141Mhz with a dot signal of ... . .... . ?
If life is found in Europa, would they be called as 'Europeans'?
This is not a place for jokes Mrs
@Based on Pluto global warming is a hoax.
Happy Birthday 🥳 Frank from Alberta Canada 🇨🇦. 🥂🔭
Happy birthday 🎂🎂🎂🎂 Frank !
In the Year 3244 we will still need to do these things...Amen' God Bless. (You guys are awesome, we love you guys.)
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man's reign is through
Happy Towel Day! And happy birthday Frank!
All the under ice ocean worlds in the Solar system should be priority #1 (+plus Titan), for exploration with everything we can throw at 'em.
You need not pierce the ice crust to look for life. Life would have been deposited onto the surface from pressured vortices-from the interior to the exterior. Send surface probes to points on the surface where crustal upheavals that were caused by upwellings of water. Life will be in the debris field. Suggestion would be also one of the dirtier upwellings-would have come from a deeper part of Europa
does tidal flexing effect objects in orbit around euraopa
If I had an opportunity to ask a question here it would be if humans can transplant life from Earth into the Ocean(s) of Europa and if the flora and fauna would successfully live there. Thanks.
Happy Birthday Frank!!!!
I wish that signs of life will be found on Europa. Any multi-cellular life (probably some kind of European fish) would be very big indication of that the Universe is bursting with life and that we are certainly not alone
That's my first SETI lecture, greetings from Greece!
Imagine sitting in your little research sub with the hull squeaking a hundred kilometers beneath surface of an ocean hundreds and thousands of kilometers from home. Claustrophobia, here I come.
The approximate pressure at the bottom of a 100km-deep ocean on Europa is ~19,500 lbs/inch^2 which compares favourably to the bottom of the Marianas Trench on Earth at 1,6000 lbs. So, we definitely CAN build a submarine capable of exploring the depths of Europa's ocean.
The main issues would be:
1) Getting it into the ocean.
2) Powering it - only big RTGs could work.
3) Command/control/communication back to orbit.
Other than those things, it's dead easy!
make it a survivable mission. If it were "only" dangerous, I'd sign up in a heartbeat
Would love to go swimming in Europa’s ocean....
'ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE', HAL's last broadcast to Earth at the end of '2010' movie. Are we going to get in BIG trouble?!
Happy Birthday Frank From Preston, Lancashire UK
Nobody:
The kid reading this on Europa:
How will we reach the subsurface ocean? Perhaps a radioactive generator to slowly melt its way through?
That might be harmful to some of the life, if there is any. I think they're taking a sensible course at the moment.
The Piper yes good point, but what else could we use that would produce enough heat? Solar may not be viable due to distance... it’s an engineering conundrum to be sure
The probe probably needs an RTG anyway for electricity so might as well use the waste heat to melt through the ice. Seems the most practical way to me.
The problem is that we won't have the technology to dive into the subsurface ocean in Europa in at least 100 years. Human can never survive on the surface of Europa due to insanely high radiation. I think probably we should be focus on other moons of Jupiter like Callisto, which is big, full of water ice, and has low radiation. Callisto is a better place to colonialize.
I LOVE SETI...
Happy Birthday Frank Drake!
I didn't know Myrell Streep was a biologist
or do u melt the ice to get to the water...
Amazing. Great conversation
Great discussion. Thanks!
Happy B day Frank, from Texas
From the other side of the planet, Happy Birthday Frank Drake.
with some energy available from tidal flexing, can you imagine all that Europa ocean without life?
If there's thermal vents there's life
Wait, what? No mermaids? Then I'm not going!
Happy Birthda Frank Drake...from Preston. UK
This guy looks like Leon Trotsky.
Hello🔭🛸
Too bad I will be long dead by the time they find something interesting there.
If we can see them how much better can they see us?
Starts at 7:50
I simply don't understand this "need" for long-winded time-wasting intros.
That's necessary to give the context of the conversation and so you know who are the speakers. Feel free to skip it if you dislike it.
@@AllPlanets ... "necessary" is a weighty word. It really isn't. Put the details in the description, or at the end.
That way many people will save much time ... and that adds up quickly, with thousands of views.
@@ZappyOh Thank you. I suppose they don't understand the word brief.
@@ZappyOh in the time when fake news is everywhere and people believe charlatans and gurus on TH-cam, it appears _necessary_ that you know in advance who is going to talk on the topic and if they have real credentials for this. I prefer to prioritize honesty to the number of views.
how the hell do you drill thru 10 to 30 k of ice ?
They'll send tunnel boaring machine with power source. Consider it as longest tunnel in the universe.
This is my first my lecture
its tidally locked so your tugging theory seems bunk
great
If I could only ask Americans to pronounce one word correctly, it is "Antarctica". Every letter is pronounced, and both Cs are hard. The word derives from the greek, which has a hard K twice. This is not a case of "you pronounce it your way". This is a case of people being taught incorrect pronunciation. It's not aluminum vs. aluminium.
ἀνταρκτικός (antarktikós) is Antarctica in English. And no case can be made for dropping a letter in speech.
You don't go to the "artic", you go to the "arctic".
www.askdifference.com/arctic-vs-artic/
Thank you, kind Americans. Once you understand, you can confidently assure your friends of the correct way to say the word.
at least, they keep their R-s. they have no shaap soads or Aih Foce One.
but yeah, they call the wrong sport football
You're just jealous because Al Gore invenned the innernet.
I love your videos, thank you seti for your hard work. I’m sorry it brings out the nut-jobs in the comment section though. I support you all %100
if u were on the surface
May I recommend; my 2 essay videos, about "Aliens"?
You may, can I offer some random observations about psychedelic drugs?
What gives us the right to go to other planets or moons and start building. We have no idea if their are established laws or rules in the sol system already. Our planet really needs some attention right now...🔭🛸
We have a pretty good idea...
Anybody getting job envy, watching this? :))
So many assertions.... so little evidence.
Edit: Go there and bring me back something. Until then... these people have nothing.
20 minutes to get going?
Really?
Save the jibber jabber and garbage, off topic talk for the end please. None of us are here to watch or listen to an administrator.
Get off the camera and just let us watch the actual speaker. Not you.
Is Zoom safe and secure to use because it is controlled by a Chinese citizen who may have connections with the Chinese government?
It is not. They were already caught routing data to servers in China
Nothing goes to space but your imagination. Grow up.
Leave Europe alone be, exploration for life there, will "only" prove in producing deadly results.
"All these worlds are yours to explore, except Europa, attempt no landing there" :-)
Why is the Earth flat ? ..........Only kidding !!
to give us a 50% safety when it comes to impacts. with some luck, meteors and comets hit the other side. then we have earthquakes :- )