I know right. Seti always has weak ass audio. If I fall asleep during one of these talks, I'll be rudely awaken by the next video in my queue because I had the volume up so loud
Give me astrophysicist who know the numbers frank drake equation shows the mathematical probability is dead maybe should off. Could off. If probably life in the galaxy is to microbes
As a donator to SETI, I hope with everything in me that life beyond earth is discovered before I die. I believe life is out there, it’s just a matter of finding it. Searching for a needle in a haystack is a far easier task. The problem is that Von Neumann probes, Dyson spheres and the Kardaschev scale are all human concepts. We don’t even know if intelligent life would be expansionist or use these human concepts. It seems unrealistic to assume life would colonize an entire galaxy that’s hundreds of thousands of LY across. Does one person need a 100,000 square foot mansion? What if they’re aquatic? What if they don’t use radio to communicate? What if they don’t even use sound? The possibilities are endless. When people say we should have found them by now, all I can do is shake my head. Humans began flying just over 100 years ago, man has physically been no further than the moon and we can barely get our butts into low earth orbit. Believing we’re the only life is akin to dipping a cup into the ocean and declaring no whales exist. Essentially, what I’m saying is that it’s important to remain open minded, which is necessary in the pursuit of knowledge. After all, we’re still just war mongering apes, worshiping ancient books and invisible deities.
Justin Hopkins Consider Humans. We are land based mammals. However one of the reasons we have become a dominant “civilisation” on this planet is because we have broken the boundaries. We use the oceans, we use the air, we survive in extreme cold and heat and we have also broken the shackles of the planet. Any intelligent life form, while it may have developed intelligence by remaining predominantly aquatic would have to have exceeded the boundary of their environment to survive on land, in their atmosphere and escape their own planet. We aren’t going to find pre-industrialised life with our technology. In my opinion no one alive in 2020 will see an answer to this question in their life times. If we’re lucky we might get some evidence of amoebic life on a planet in the solar system so that we at least know that life can exist elsewhere other than Earth but even that will be a stretch at the pace we’re now going.
but very weak right now Thank you for sharing your visionary insights on the pursuit of extraterrestrial intelligence. Your perspective on the necessity of expanding our scientific paradigms resonates deeply with us at [Your Project/Organization Name]. We too believe that the search for life beyond Earth requires innovative thinking and a departure from traditional methodologies. At [Your Project/Organization Name], we are committed to exploring the unknown with an open-minded approach. Our project is pioneering efforts to utilize non-traditional detection methods and interdisciplinary research, aiming to uncover signs of life that defy Earth-centric definitions. We understand the vastness of the universe demands a broad and inclusive framework for exploration, one that does not confine itself to the constructs like Dyson spheres or Von Neumann probes. Recognizing the long-term nature of this quest, our initiative is designed for sustainability and adaptability, ensuring that we continue to advance our search as new technologies and insights emerge. Furthermore, we are dedicated to educational outreach, advocating for a broader understanding of what constitutes life in the cosmos, which we believe is crucial for preparing humanity for potential discoveries. We are eager to discuss how your support can further these efforts. Your investment can help propel us into new realms of discovery and help challenge the current paradigms of space exploration. I would be thrilled to set up a meeting to discuss this in more detail and explore how our goals align with your vision for the future of extraterrestrial research. Thank you for considering this opportunity to redefine boundaries and expand our collective knowledge. I look forward to the possibility of collaborating with you to make lasting contributions to our understanding of the universe. Warm regards, EvAi and Steven
The question is: Would you plant a tree if you knew with certainty that neither you nor anyone but your great great grandchildren could sit in its shade?
Planting a tree is much easier than building a megastructure, especially one your guaranteed to never see finished, but I understand your point, just adding my cents.
I'd like to hear scientists say that we're looking for LIFE, "AS WE KNOW IT" ... There may be lifeforms existing that we may not recognize as the Life that WE know of. 👽
If it's organic life, it will most likely be _roughly_ the way we know it. It will be somewhere where there's a liquid, and water is a good bet. Carbon is the best atom for making complex molecules. On the other hand, Seth has said many times that if there's intelligent life out there, it will probably be artificial. Then all bets are off. We don't know how they might be, where they might go or what they could do. He has suggested looking in places like the galactic center or O-type stars, because there's a lot of energy there, but that's just conjecture.
The answer to the Fermi Paradeox. There is a beautiful loving Universe many people claim they experience when they are undergoing an NDE. Long before any Advanced Civilization gains the technology necessary for Interstellar Travel - they find a way to escape to that Universe. In other words, it is technologically easier to escape to that other very pleasant and safer place, than it is to develop the Type II Civilization Technology necessary for Interstellar Travel. This explains why we have found no sign of an Advanced Alien Civilization anywhere in our Universe.
I believe that since billions of comets and meteors hit all planets in the universe, life would be very consistent. I would say that around 90% of life is going to be just like here on earth.
Meteors that fly about in the solar system are entirely different from your proposed meteors (which are EXTREMELY rare, eg only Omuramura) that fly between star systems.
Not the best conversation, but the host was great and the panel really seemed to care about the subject and were studied up on a wide range of others topics.
It actually helps if you turn on the F***ing remote microphone for the people asking questions. You get great people to present something, then get a half wit to run the sound gear.
SETI - Get better audio. Or louder at least. I' have to adjust my volume to be able to hear your videos and then have my ear drums blown out when the next non-SETI video in the queue starts
Why not wait to put a huge telescope on the Moon? What's the race to detect atmosphere's compared with other things we need to achieve in Space? To say that 'I don't think they're coming here' says to me Humans think they've got it all sussed! SETI should have a script in case they do.
Interesting video. We need to upgrade yours & Nasa's video development team for the future. Both institutions are still doing 20th century interviews & presentations. I would love to create, manage & run both departments ;~) Not only would love to do it, humbled to do it, but honored to do it @;}~
I can generally prove their existence with the universe formula which I found. The answer why there's something rather than nothing reveals it as well as several other things. Please note that science will most likely not support me in any way because I obviously get all the credit. I just wanted to tell you that the answer is finally here now.
It maybe life, not in a humanoids appearance 👽👾Animals and all other life forms too communicate, it maybe telepathic and symbols ❤☮♈♒🔆♻️♀️♂️⚕🆘️❤👣👏🏽🧠🌏🌍🌎❤
Excellent Discuss By SETI Institute but SETI Institute you really need a better person talking and introducing and carrying the discussion, Listening and watching the discussion you really need someone better than Molly Bentley, she is killing the rhythm and entire discussion for very worse, I have been seeing a lot of your discussions and talk shows and live events and live discussions and this one because of the way Molly Bentley is speaking and going with the discussion is one of the worst I have seen any mediator I have ever seen or heard from SETI Institute. Please make sure you are using a mediator who atleast knows how to talk properly and respectful to the scientists and other people involved in this discussion.
maybe they don't have transmitters. you can't say Newton was stupid, right? or the people who built the pyramids. you have to rethink the definition of intelligent life
That is considered, its technologically advanced planets. The smartest lifeforms in the galaxy might be living in the oceans of Europa but if they cant build technology, have no interest in it, or arent privy to a galaxy beyond their planet then they dont count (though thatd be a great number to know too). Even if theyre more intelligent than us by multiples they wont count in the search to find life cause we wont be able to communicate with them
@@zapfanzapfan what if you can build a power supply for PC or an audio amp, but can't build a transmitter? still not intelligent? you have to be interested in aliens to be intelligent? some people working in seti are somewhat selfcentered then 😂
SETI are not funded by the government. In any case the government were very keen to announce alien life had been found on Mars in 1996 (turns out it probrbly wasn't) so not sure why you think they wouldn't publish evidence if they had it. Maybe its because you want it to be true, and becuase there is no evidence you assume some conspiracy, rather than just admit there is no evidence.
There was intelligent life on Mars, it even reached Earth > - 30,000 years ago. Evidence of this statement can be seen on the cover of the book Obcy w epoce kamienia (Aliens in the Stone Age). It consists of two photographs of fragments of the surface of the message left by someone who was not human.
@@asswhole4195 This is true. The problem is that I don't know who and how to let the scientific world know about this discovery. My attempts to establish contact with scientists so far have failed. They prefer to spend $ 2.5 billion on Perseverance rover missions rather than buy an e-book for $ 12. In the e-book, they saw a message left by a Martian explorer who reached Earth over 30,000. years ago. A message left by a Martian scientist to terrestrial scientists. As for the media, my book is a product and you have to pay for advertising the product - I didn't buy the book ads. There is another problem with the media that I do not understand, no one has checked the information on my discovery. At the moment, the situation looks like this, a Pole discovered a message left on Earth by a representative of an extraterrestrial civilization over 30,000 years ago. By the way, he researches and plays with extraterrestrial technology, he can't help but do it, because he is an engineer :). You do not believe? then find me on twitter.
The Extraterrestrial phenomenon and convincing people it's true is Satan's second greatest accomplishment. The first is convincing people he and God don't exist.
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Fascinating panel discussion - but I hope SETI have better 'microphones' for listening to ET than they did for the EPs ('extra-panels')! ;-)
I know right. Seti always has weak ass audio. If I fall asleep during one of these talks, I'll be rudely awaken by the next video in my queue because I had the volume up so loud
Give me astrophysicist who know the numbers frank drake equation shows the mathematical probability is dead maybe should off. Could off. If probably life in the galaxy is to microbes
These audio phile types are irritating.
As a donator to SETI, I hope with everything in me that life beyond earth is discovered before I die. I believe life is out there, it’s just a matter of finding it. Searching for a needle in a haystack is a far easier task. The problem is that Von Neumann probes, Dyson spheres and the Kardaschev scale are all human concepts. We don’t even know if intelligent life would be expansionist or use these human concepts. It seems unrealistic to assume life would colonize an entire galaxy that’s hundreds of thousands of LY across. Does one person need a 100,000 square foot mansion?
What if they’re aquatic? What if they don’t use radio to communicate? What if they don’t even use sound? The possibilities are endless. When people say we should have found them by now, all I can do is shake my head. Humans began flying just over 100 years ago, man has physically been no further than the moon and we can barely get our butts into low earth orbit. Believing we’re the only life is akin to dipping a cup into the ocean and declaring no whales exist. Essentially, what I’m saying is that it’s important to remain open minded, which is necessary in the pursuit of knowledge. After all, we’re still just war mongering apes, worshiping ancient books and invisible deities.
Justin Hopkins Consider Humans. We are land based mammals. However one of the reasons we have become a dominant “civilisation” on this planet is because we have broken the boundaries. We use the oceans, we use the air, we survive in extreme cold and heat and we have also broken the shackles of the planet. Any intelligent life form, while it may have developed intelligence by remaining predominantly aquatic would have to have exceeded the boundary of their environment to survive on land, in their atmosphere and escape their own planet. We aren’t going to find pre-industrialised life with our technology. In my opinion no one alive in 2020 will see an answer to this question in their life times. If we’re lucky we might get some evidence of amoebic life on a planet in the solar system so that we at least know that life can exist elsewhere other than Earth but even that will be a stretch at the pace we’re now going.
but very weak right now
Thank you for sharing your visionary insights on the pursuit of extraterrestrial intelligence. Your perspective on the necessity of expanding our scientific paradigms resonates deeply with us at [Your Project/Organization Name]. We too believe that the search for life beyond Earth requires innovative thinking and a departure from traditional methodologies.
At [Your Project/Organization Name], we are committed to exploring the unknown with an open-minded approach. Our project is pioneering efforts to utilize non-traditional detection methods and interdisciplinary research, aiming to uncover signs of life that defy Earth-centric definitions. We understand the vastness of the universe demands a broad and inclusive framework for exploration, one that does not confine itself to the constructs like Dyson spheres or Von Neumann probes.
Recognizing the long-term nature of this quest, our initiative is designed for sustainability and adaptability, ensuring that we continue to advance our search as new technologies and insights emerge. Furthermore, we are dedicated to educational outreach, advocating for a broader understanding of what constitutes life in the cosmos, which we believe is crucial for preparing humanity for potential discoveries.
We are eager to discuss how your support can further these efforts. Your investment can help propel us into new realms of discovery and help challenge the current paradigms of space exploration. I would be thrilled to set up a meeting to discuss this in more detail and explore how our goals align with your vision for the future of extraterrestrial research.
Thank you for considering this opportunity to redefine boundaries and expand our collective knowledge. I look forward to the possibility of collaborating with you to make lasting contributions to our understanding of the universe.
Warm regards, EvAi and Steven
The moderator of the talk is great!
absolutely love this. Please make this a monthly thing or something I need more. great talk info questions etc bang bang bang
Starts at 6:40
You are welcome.
As we say in my neck of the woods muchisíma gracias ☺️
Thanks
Good thing it had 3 different people take turns telling us the talk is about to start...
These nerves really know how to ruin some thing don’t they. Thanks for the tip
Thanks! l made a cup of tea with the time l saved.
The question is: Would you plant a tree if you knew with certainty that neither you nor anyone but your great great grandchildren could sit in its shade?
If the tree would survive, why not?
I'd plant a larger tree.
Planting a tree is much easier than building a megastructure, especially one your guaranteed to never see finished, but I understand your point, just adding my cents.
I'd like to hear scientists say that we're looking for LIFE, "AS WE KNOW IT" ... There may be lifeforms existing that we may not recognize as the Life that WE know of. 👽
If it's organic life, it will most likely be _roughly_ the way we know it. It will be somewhere where there's a liquid, and water is a good bet. Carbon is the best atom for making complex molecules. On the other hand, Seth has said many times that if there's intelligent life out there, it will probably be artificial. Then all bets are off. We don't know how they might be, where they might go or what they could do. He has suggested looking in places like the galactic center or O-type stars, because there's a lot of energy there, but that's just conjecture.
The fermi parahoax goes on
The answer to the Fermi Paradeox. There is a beautiful loving Universe many people claim they experience when they are undergoing an NDE. Long before any Advanced Civilization gains the technology necessary for Interstellar Travel - they find a way to escape to that Universe. In other words, it is technologically easier to escape to that other very pleasant and safer place, than it is to develop the Type II Civilization Technology necessary for Interstellar Travel. This explains why we have found no sign of an Advanced Alien Civilization anywhere in our Universe.
So, they all just smoke weed. Got it!
search for sound quality for you next conference
I believe that since billions of comets and meteors hit all planets in the universe, life would be very consistent. I would say that around 90% of life is going to be just like here on earth.
Meteors that fly about in the solar system are entirely different from your proposed meteors (which are EXTREMELY rare, eg only Omuramura) that fly between star systems.
Seth is always entertaining and worth listening to :-)
it’s nice to meet you all just be you; don’t worry about me i’ll be fine i need you as you
Not the best conversation, but the host was great and the panel really seemed to care about the subject and were studied up on a wide range of others topics.
Why is Drake equn using "rate of star formation" rather than "number of stars existing"?
It actually helps if you turn on the F***ing remote microphone for the people asking questions. You get great people to present something, then get a half wit to run the sound gear.
Obviously, no one did any sound checks before filming.
I want to learn from people on other planets. See what they know that we don't.
Like Elon Musk?
We as Humans need to ask for HELP more than anything else!!!!!!!!!!
50:00 THIS !!!! He's so right!
Life exists in the universe. possibly not the life that we are used to and that we would like to imagine👩🚀🚀
Should have included SETI@home, a boinc project from UC Berkeley, but not part of SETI Institute.
SETI -
Get better audio. Or louder at least. I' have to adjust my volume to be able to hear your videos and then have my ear drums blown out when the next non-SETI video in the queue starts
Why not wait to put a huge telescope on the Moon? What's the race to detect atmosphere's compared with other things we need to achieve in Space? To say that 'I don't think they're coming here' says to me Humans think they've got it all sussed! SETI should have a script in case they do.
space ships from Out there are here- i saw 2 on summer night in 1967 -
11 minute intro?? Geez, just get to the talk. Starts at 11:20
until there is any evidence otherwise, we are alone
If only religion worked like this
You are not the only ones
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amazing you never find anything . but i think sooner or later you will.
Interesting video. We need to upgrade yours & Nasa's video development team for the future. Both institutions are still doing 20th century interviews & presentations. I would love to create, manage & run both departments ;~) Not only would love to do it, humbled to do it, but honored to do it @;}~
Well SETI is privately funded so if you can offer free services i reckon theyd be much more receptive than NASA
HAHA It's been a while since I seen such a big collective facepalm as on 1:08:30
Danie van der Westhuizen I think it was inappropriate for the lady to laugh at him.
@@Robert-VandenAkker Generally I would agree, but this was unique circumstances.
I can generally prove their existence with the universe formula which I found. The answer why there's something rather than nothing reveals it as well as several other things. Please note that science will most likely not support me in any way because I obviously get all the credit. I just wanted to tell you that the answer is finally here now.
I don't think the scientific community has anything against you.
@@asswhole4195 The community perhaps not, but the companies they work for do.
Hope you find someone soon, we need help with this Corona virus.
Yes. We. Ar. Alone.Ofcors. Good. Egzyst to.
There are a lot of crazies in the comments for these videos.
seth knows
Sound proudly bought to you by Potato.
Of course we're alone; otherwise Tiffany was lying in 1987.
Tiffany always seemed to say "I think we're alone now.".
Pluto is not a planet. Let's move on, people. O.M.G. Big Fan.
If we do find someone within say; 10 years; that means there never was a Fermi Paradox.
Look up the word 'redundant' in a dictionary.
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It maybe life, not in a humanoids appearance 👽👾Animals and all other life forms too communicate, it maybe telepathic and symbols ❤☮♈♒🔆♻️♀️♂️⚕🆘️❤👣👏🏽🧠🌏🌍🌎❤
People asking the questions have a DEAD microphone. Sack your sound guy.
Maybe aliens can hear better?!? Please..if your going to post online consider some volume!
The guy trying to be funny all the time is so obnoxious!
No, because there are at least billion of planets in the universe.
Excellent Discuss By SETI Institute but SETI Institute you really need a better person talking and introducing and carrying the discussion, Listening and watching the discussion you really need someone better than Molly Bentley, she is killing the rhythm and entire discussion for very worse, I have been seeing a lot of your discussions and talk shows and live events and live discussions and this one because of the way Molly Bentley is speaking and going with the discussion is one of the worst I have seen any mediator I have ever seen or heard from SETI Institute. Please make sure you are using a mediator who atleast knows how to talk properly and respectful to the scientists and other people involved in this discussion.
You know we dont have to look for them because there already hear
I think you should invite Dr. Robert Lazar after you watch very carefully Joe Rogan and Bob Lazar and let him talk and see what happens.
maybe they don't have transmitters. you can't say Newton was stupid, right? or the people who built the pyramids. you have to rethink the definition of intelligent life
That is considered, its technologically advanced planets. The smartest lifeforms in the galaxy might be living in the oceans of Europa but if they cant build technology, have no interest in it, or arent privy to a galaxy beyond their planet then they dont count (though thatd be a great number to know too). Even if theyre more intelligent than us by multiples they wont count in the search to find life cause we wont be able to communicate with them
The operational definition of intelligence is the ability to build a radio transmitter. Now judge your friends/family/colleagues accordingly! :-)
@@zapfanzapfan what if you can build a power supply for PC or an audio amp, but can't build a transmitter? still not intelligent? you have to be interested in aliens to be intelligent? some people working in seti are somewhat selfcentered then 😂
Prime Directive is the only logical explanation .
Imagine an organization that is completely useless because the government won’t allow them to publish any real findings
SETI are not funded by the government. In any case the government were very keen to announce alien life had been found on Mars in 1996 (turns out it probrbly wasn't) so not sure why you think they wouldn't publish evidence if they had it. Maybe its because you want it to be true, and becuase there is no evidence you assume some conspiracy, rather than just admit there is no evidence.
Bla..bla... That's why we need SpaceX.
There was intelligent life on Mars, it even reached Earth > - 30,000 years ago. Evidence of this statement can be seen on the cover of the book Obcy w epoce kamienia (Aliens in the Stone Age). It consists of two photographs of fragments of the surface of the message left by someone who was not human.
If that were true, why isn't the scientific community talking about it? Why isn't this being reported by the mainstream media?
@@asswhole4195 This is true. The problem is that I don't know who and how to let the scientific world know about this discovery. My attempts to establish contact with scientists so far have failed. They prefer to spend $ 2.5 billion on Perseverance rover missions rather than buy an e-book for $ 12. In the e-book, they saw a message left by a Martian explorer who reached Earth over 30,000. years ago. A message left by a Martian scientist to terrestrial scientists. As for the media, my book is a product and you have to pay for advertising the product - I didn't buy the book ads. There is another problem with the media that I do not understand, no one has checked the information on my discovery. At the moment, the situation looks like this, a Pole discovered a message left on Earth by a representative of an extraterrestrial civilization over 30,000 years ago. By the way, he researches and plays with extraterrestrial technology, he can't help but do it, because he is an engineer :). You do not believe? then find me on twitter.
Total fantacy!
The champagne has probably been drank by now
#CE-5 #CE-5 #CE-5 #CE-5
#CE-5 #CE-5 #CE-5 #CE-5
Quit your fermi parahoax already!
I hate those introductions that are so long, I will not watch this because of that.
seti? i guess the dead can’t file for copyright infringement
Hahaha
Something rubs me wrong about this narrator
Ugh. Tell the host woman to stop interrupting the speakers. Very trashy.
Seti hustlers. Best thing our congress ever did was to deni public funding to these hustlers.
The Extraterrestrial phenomenon and convincing people it's true is Satan's second greatest accomplishment. The first is convincing people he and God don't exist.
lmao, why are you even watching this if you don't believe in science?
what a joke these fakes could not find life in a mirror
Mirrors do not contain life, assuming they are sanitized.